ah i love you GCSE business students.

once your teacher has covered motivation theory, come back here and realise how amusing and incorrect you are.

Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs

1. Physiological needs
The definition of physiological needs is quite obvious; they are the physical requirements for human survival. If these requirements are not met, the human body cannot function properly, and will ultimately fail. Physiological needs are thought to be the most important; they should be met first. Therefore, a human lacking food, love, esteem, or safety would consider the greatest of his/her needs to be food.

2. Safety needs
With their physical needs relatively satisfied, the individual's safety needs take precedence and dominate behavior. In the absence of physical safety GÇô due to war, natural disaster, family violence, childhood abuse, etc. GÇô people may (re-)experience post-traumatic stress disorder or transgenerational trauma. In the absence of economic safety GÇô due to economic crisis and lack of work opportunities GÇô these safety needs manifest themselves in ways such as a preference for job security, grievance procedures for protecting the individual from unilateral authority, savings accounts, insurance policies, reasonable disability accommodations, etc

3. Love and belonging
After physiological and safety needs are fulfilled, the third level of human needs is interpersonal and involves feelings of belongingness. The need is especially strong in childhood and can override the need for safety as witnessed in children who cling to abusive parents. Deficiencies within this level of Maslow's hierarchy GÇô due to hospitalism, neglect, shunning, ostracism, etc. GÇô can impact individual's ability to form and maintain emotionally significant relationships in general, such as friendship, intimacy and family

4. Esteem
All humans have a need to feel respected; this includes the need to have self-esteem and self-respect. Esteem presents the typical human desire to be accepted and valued by others. People often engage in a profession or hobby to gain recognition.

5. Self-actualization
This level of need refers to what a person's full potential is and the realization of that potential. Maslow describes this level as the desire to accomplish everything that one can, to become the most that one can be.

Hey, in most other games mining is not this hideous farce we got in EvE.

I'm interested in examples of other games with truly compelling mining content.

Any suggestions anybody for where I can gain this perspective of interesting mining in other games?

considering the entire of the OP hinges on physiological needs, give or take based on how you translate this stuff to the game... you pretty much proved my point.

must admit, it's been 7 years since i've seen any of that. oh the horrible memories.

considering the entire of the OP hinges on physiological needs, give or take based on how you translate this stuff to the game... you pretty much proved my point.

must admit, it's been 7 years since i've seen any of that. oh the horrible memories.

Self actualization as a character or as a person trying to use a character in a game for gain with minimal effort? If the former than you have a point. If the latter then it would seem the more important part of the equation is the activity happening away from the keyboard.

Self actualization as a character or as a person trying to use a character in a game for gain with minimal effort? If the former than you have a point. If the latter then it would seem the more important part of the equation is the activity happening away from the keyboard.

You didnt mine asteroids in SWG...

Nice one.

Vaerah:

I have to admit I don't play a lot of games that feature mining as a "profession."

So to maximize my limited experience of other games' mining, let's look at Skyrim:

1) Go into dungeon.

2) Fight your way to some ore.

3) Harvest it for no longer than 30 seconds for a scant few GP worth of ore.

4) Leave the dungeon to either forge something or sell the refined ore.

Now what does this indicate?

In Skyrim:

1) Mining is not a profession, it's a brief activity.

2) It involves legitimate combat nearly every time.

3) Yield is low.

4) Mining logistics are time-consuming.

I'm sorry but that's all the experience I have with mining in other games.

So in Skyrim, how is mining (as an activity) "more interesting" than it is in Eve Online?

My answer would be that the risk that's involved combined with the design of immersion-by-necessity raise the arbitrary value of the goods acquired and therefore the activity as a whole.

I'm interested in examples of other games with truly compelling mining content.

Any suggestions anybody for where I can gain this perspective of interesting mining in other games?

You really think all those subs won't change status if mining gets an "interestingness" buff? You really think they'll be excited?

Sometimes, Vaerah, I don't see what the points of your posts are.

You didnt mine asteroids in SWG...

So, you still play a game made by a company that in your opinion keeps the worst mining implementation ever only because of wallet preservation?

I'm sorry what?

I play Eve to blow people up.

The size of my wallet isn't a factor.

Your mode of cogitation is practically foreign to me.

Further, the game with literally the worst mining also happens to literally have the most fun PVP, so there you go.

I'm trying to bring the rest of the game up to the caliber of the PVP as a service to those who know no different.

The real stupidity is that they are missing out on all the cool stuff in the game.