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CCP Gargant
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2012.11.21 15:07:00 -
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Some areas of the market window have been a little.... cluttered. To say the least. We all know the joys of navigating through the thickest of it but apparently CCP FoxFour does not share that joy. He has taken it up on himself to iron out some of the kinks and get rid of some of the inconsistencies, and written a dev blog explaining his goals with each change in the numerous divisions.
You can read the blog here.
As always we want to hear what you have to say about these changes, be it positive or negative. CCP Gargant | Community Representative |
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CCP FoxFour
C C P C C P Alliance
933
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Posted - 2012.11.21 15:09:00 -
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YAY! Market cleanup! Hope you guys enjoy. :D Content Designer | Team Five 0 @regnerBA |
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Delta3000
Barr Heavy Industries Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2012.11.21 15:11:00 -
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First!
Overwriting fuzzy logic ftw. |
Graygor
1kB Realty 1kB Galactic
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Posted - 2012.11.21 15:13:00 -
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Second ish maybe |
Alx Warlord
SUPERNOVA SOCIETY Tribal Conclave
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Posted - 2012.11.21 15:18:00 -
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I can feel the love on it!!!
Welcome changes!!!
About using the faction Icon, I really loved it, and it would be nice to see it every time a faction name appear...
And... how about separate hull from armor? Please read this! > New POS system ( Block Built - Starbasecraft) Please read this! >-á[Debate] - ISK SINK |
Louis deGuerre
The Dark Tribe Against ALL Authorities
536
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Posted - 2012.11.21 15:21:00 -
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Loving those icons. Add them everywhere ! FIRE FRIENDSHIP TORPEDOES ! Louis's epic skill guide v1.1 |
Jackie Fisher
Syrkos Technologies Joint Venture Conglomerate
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Posted - 2012.11.21 15:22:00 -
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nth + 1!
Can't see anything to moan about in those changes so must be good work. Fear God and Thread Nought |
Xercodo
24th Imperial Crusade Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.11.21 15:24:00 -
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Wooo finally \o/
Intuitive market groups that EFT has already been using for years \o/
And yes, the BP section was just horrible The Drake is a Lie |
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CCP FoxFour
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2012.11.21 15:24:00 -
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Jackie Fisher wrote:nth + 1! Can't see anything to moan about in those changes so must be good work.
Thanks... I think. :P Content Designer | Team Five 0 @regnerBA |
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Trebor Daehdoow
Dirt Nap Squad Dirt Nap Squad.
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Posted - 2012.11.21 15:30:00 -
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I am consumed by the desire to go into my own warehouse and reorganize the company inventory. Damn you! Damn you to hell! The Sarcasm is Strong with Me GÇó Member of CSM 5-7 GÇó Blog |
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Gilbaron
Free-Space-Ranger Ev0ke
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Posted - 2012.11.21 15:30:00 -
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you just want to harvest some likes with this, don't you ? |
Salpad
Carebears with Attitude
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Posted - 2012.11.21 15:31:00 -
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A feature request: I'd like to be able to cancel my Buy Orders and Sell Orders from the Market window, instead of having to go the my Wallet and re-finding the order there. I can already modify the Orders I've created from the Market window, so why can't I also cancel them?
(Note also that it's possible to cancel any order - from the Wallet window - even if you're half a galaxy away. There's no same-Region requirement. Is that working as intended?)
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eidenjunior
Nor-rigs
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Posted - 2012.11.21 15:32:00 -
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Love it!!!!!!!! |
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CCP FoxFour
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2012.11.21 15:33:00 -
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Gilbaron wrote:you just want to harvest some likes with this, don't you ?
Not really against that... but no that is not the only reason. I guess if you would prefer I could have just not said anything about it and just released it. Content Designer | Team Five 0 @regnerBA |
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CCP Arrow
C C P C C P Alliance
245
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Posted - 2012.11.21 15:34:00 -
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Louis deGuerre wrote:Loving those icons. Add them everywhere !
CCP Arrow-á-á|-á Senior Game Designer-á|-á @CCP_Arrow |
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Grideris
Fleet Coordination Commission Fleet Coordination Coalition
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Posted - 2012.11.21 15:35:00 -
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Separate categories for different sized plates/different resistances? Has Christmas come early?! http://www.dust514.org - the unofficial forum for everything DUST 514 http://www.dust514base.com - the blog site with everything else DUST 514 you need
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Valkyrs
Deep Vein Trading
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Posted - 2012.11.21 15:38:00 -
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First of all, love that things are being made more clear and organized nicely, great!
Maybe it's just me but I got used to not using the market browser pretty quick. It's time consuming, not everything is listed, and the organization might have been worse when I began.
If you're going to put work into the browsing of the market, consider a newbie-friendly approach since it probably literally doesn't get used by more veteran players.
I really liked the DUST 514 market, it looked more like the type of market you'd find now a days online, rather then a bunch of vague trees that I had to hope my item was at the bottom.
Maybe create a bunch of categories (armor, resistance, ship module, weapon, etc) and allow the user to put a few filters together to limit what they're looking at? Most of the time you KNOW what type of thing you're looking for, just not where it is.. Allow them to input what sort of thing they're looking for and reward them with a list of related items. They could even start at this sort of "market overview filter" and filter down to a category, that when they click, they go over to the market browser.
Just a thought, the market is super-inaccessible to new players, and they're the ones using the browser.
Maybe consider putting ALL the items on the market, and for the ones that aren't allowed (essentially the ones you haven't added yet) put a little blurb "Item not available from market, click HERE to view in contracts" which then, obviously, opens the contract window with the given search.
Keep up the great work!
-Valk
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Xearal
Black Thorne Corporation Black Thorne Alliance
397
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Posted - 2012.11.21 15:39:00 -
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- Targetting annoying Market behaviour - Target Locked - CCP , FOXFOUR! - Annoying Marketting behaviour is hit for over 9000 anti-papercut damage! - Annoying Marketting behaviour has been destroyed.
Whooohoo !!! Score another victory against the papercuts!
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Gilbaron
Free-Space-Ranger Ev0ke
432
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Posted - 2012.11.21 15:40:00 -
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CCP FoxFour wrote:Gilbaron wrote:you just want to harvest some likes with this, don't you ? Not really against that... but no that is not the only reason. I guess if you would prefer I could have just not said anything about it and just released it.
credit where credit is due ;)
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Crynsos Cealion
Matari Munitions The Fendahlian Collective
0
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Posted - 2012.11.21 15:42:00 -
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Now it would be great if we actually could sell exploration loot like faction POS towers / modules and the various faction drones on the market as well. |
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Alara IonStorm
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Posted - 2012.11.21 15:42:00 -
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The added plates and hardeners thank god. \o/ |
Fade Toblack
Per.ly The 20 Minuters
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Posted - 2012.11.21 15:46:00 -
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@ CCP FoxFour - how about moving some of the low-value, drops-a-lot in missions stuff to the market? "Elite Drone AI" is my most obvious item. Selling some of this stuff on contract compared to the market is painful.
I'd suggest getting somebody to run some data on stuff that's sold on contract either for low-values or in large quantities, and prioritising that list.
Salpad wrote:I'd like to be able to cancel my Buy Orders and Sell Orders from the Market window, instead of having to go the my Wallet and re-finding the order there.
Have you seen the "orders" tab on the Market Window?
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TheSmokingHertog
TALIBAN EXPRESS
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Posted - 2012.11.21 15:52:00 -
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Salpad wrote:A feature request: I'd like to be able to cancel my Buy Orders and Sell Orders from the Market window, instead of having to go the my Wallet and re-finding the order there. I can already modify the Orders I've created from the Market window, so why can't I also cancel them?
(Note also that it's possible to cancel any order - from the Wallet window - even if you're half a galaxy away. There's no same-Region requirement. Is that working as intended?)
This is discussed here too; Forum Link, and I suggest a GO TO ORDER button in the orders menu on blue orders which bring you to your order overview, so you can cancel it in the order overview immidiately.
And regarding the orders maintenance from all over. That I want to keep around ;). |
Eli Green
The Arrow Project
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Posted - 2012.11.21 15:52:00 -
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Looks good, can't wait till the 4th wumbo |
Arydanika
Amok. Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.11.21 15:59:00 -
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Rejoice OCD sufferers & neurotics in New Eden! Rejoice!
Fantastic work on re-categorizing the market as well as the icon updates. I once saw Foxfour bravely take on four nerds raging about random game mechanics with only his wit and a single beer. Not even that display of greatness could have properly prepared me for textual delights found in this blog. On a side note; Arrow is clearly working very hard to get himself out of the design dog house. Looks like you'll be the clear by the time Retribution is released. Congrats yo. Runner of Voices from the Void podcast, Eve Online Pod Pack & DJ on eve-radio.com Sundays at 1800.-á Organizer of the ATX Eve Online Meet. GÖÑ |
Vincent Athena
V.I.C.E.
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Posted - 2012.11.21 16:07:00 -
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Nice stuff. Thank you.
How about applying the same organization love to the LP store? http://vincentoneve.wordpress.com/ |
Irregessa
Obfuscation and Reflections
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Posted - 2012.11.21 16:18:00 -
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Faction drones and POS towers/modules are on the market on Buckingham.
Still only Exotic Dancers, Female on the market, no mention of their Male counterparts.
Some of the skill categories could use this treatment as well, like Subsystem (for each race), Spaceship Command (categories for each race, another for t2 hulls, which the skills are all race independent), Science (categories for the Engineering/Physics skills, the research skills, the skills for Sleeper/Tolcan/etc tech), Industry (refining + refining proficiency skills, Mining, Manufacturing), Gunnery (Projectile, Hybrid, Energy, Support). |
Syri Taneka
Dopehead Industries Republic Alliance
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Posted - 2012.11.21 16:22:00 -
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Oh my god, thank you.
I've been hoping for a revised market nesting order (think EFT) for nearly all my 7 years of playing this game. |
Tek Handle
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
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Posted - 2012.11.21 16:27:00 -
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It doesn't make much sense to me to call it "Fleet Assistance Modules" instead of simply "Fleet Assistance", only because this category has modules in it, since all the other categories also contain only modules and are not named "Electronic Warfare Modules" for example. What do you think? |
John DaiSho
Applied Creations The Fendahlian Collective
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Posted - 2012.11.21 16:32:00 -
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Salpad wrote:A feature request: I'd like to be able to cancel my Buy Orders and Sell Orders from the Market window, instead of having to go the my Wallet and re-finding the order there. I can already modify the Orders I've created from the Market window, so why can't I also cancel them?
This has been posted several times in the "Soundwave, HALP!" little things thread, too. Its something that would be VERY handy. So pleeeeeaaaaaase do it :)
o7 John |
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