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Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
1033
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Posted - 2012.12.01 17:47:00 -
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Diamond Bull wrote:
Don't mind Tippia. I am sure she has some absurd reason that this is true in her world. It won't make sense to the rest of us but she'll keep spouting it until we stop replying and then pat herself on the back.
I know. I almost always agree with her. RIP Vile Rat-á "The only thing worse than being talked about is not being talked about." - Oscar Wilde |

Alara IonStorm
3631
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Posted - 2012.12.01 17:47:00 -
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Doddy wrote: Why would it be a problem in Amamake? Arte you incapable of manually piloting to an insta-undock spot?
Because everything is perma camped in Amamake.
* The Gates * The Stations * The Belts * The Planets * The Moons * The Sun * The Anoms * The Wormholes * The Exploration Sites * The Mission Space * Your Insta Bookmark * The POS's outside the bubble and spies inside ready to bump you out * That Safe Spot you made last month. Oh yes. They know about it. They know and are camping it right now... Waiting. * They are expanding into DUST and they know all the good Camp Sights. * Outside your CQ standing there just waiting for that Door to open.
Everywhere.Always.Forever.
Amamake! |

Doddy
Excidium. Executive Outcomes
377
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Posted - 2012.12.01 17:48:00 -
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Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:Doddy wrote:[quote=Krixtal Icefluxor]
Why would it be a problem in Amamake? Arte you incapable of manually piloting to an insta-undock spot?
The issue is even making the hotspot. 
You have a cloak right .....
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
10469
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Posted - 2012.12.01 17:48:00 -
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Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:Well, why is everyone blogging the past 2 months about the rampant increase in high sec freighter ganks ? For the same reason they were blogging about how incursions weren't an obscenely large ISK faucet.
Pohbis wrote:To be fair, it's pretty hard to cloak at the jita 4-4 undock  Not particularly. Undock, warp, cloak. In total, zero opportunity to lock up, much less scan the ship. Works the same there as everywhere else.
Mag's wrote:How does not being able to cloak at Jita undock, make the cloak unable to provide scan immunity? Like I said, why would you even try? Try to scan, you mean? WeeellGǪ sometimes, they just get sloppy, so it's worth a try. It's not like you'll waste a lot of time trying it GÇö the GÇ£nuh-uhGÇ¥ is pretty immediate if it won't work. At any rate, it's a pretty academic question since you're able to cloak just as well on the Jita 4-4 undock as on any other (except maybe Jita 4-10), and since it's already impossible to scan anyone sane on any well-used undock ramp, cloak or no cloak.
Diamond Bull wrote:Don't mind Tippia. I am sure she has some absurd reason that this is true in her world. Yes, a very simple reason: the stats and killboards of even the most persistent serial gankers show that the number of kills is minuscule and that the chance of being caught is pretty much nil. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: newbie skill plan. |

Ginger Barbarella
State War Academy Caldari State
267
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Posted - 2012.12.01 17:50:00 -
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Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:Well, why is everyone blogging the past 2 months about the rampant increase in high sec freighter ganks ?
Male dogs often have a driving NEED to hump your leg. Same applies to whiners on GD. |

Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
1033
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Posted - 2012.12.01 17:50:00 -
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Doddy wrote:Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:Doddy wrote:[quote=Krixtal Icefluxor]
Why would it be a problem in Amamake? Arte you incapable of manually piloting to an insta-undock spot?
The issue is even making the hotspot.  You have a cloak right .....
trolling. He's doing it in another Thread as well atm...... RIP Vile Rat-á "The only thing worse than being talked about is not being talked about." - Oscar Wilde |

Doddy
Excidium. Executive Outcomes
377
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Posted - 2012.12.01 17:52:00 -
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Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:Doddy wrote:Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:Doddy wrote:[quote=Krixtal Icefluxor]
Why would it be a problem in Amamake? Arte you incapable of manually piloting to an insta-undock spot?
The issue is even making the hotspot.  You have a cloak right ..... trolling. He's doing it in another Thread as well atm...... 
Erm no, you just seem to think people in amamake can see through cloaks or something.
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Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
1033
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Posted - 2012.12.01 17:52:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:Well, why is everyone blogging the past 2 months about the rampant increase in high sec freighter ganks ? For the same reason they were blogging about how incursions weren't an obscenely large ISK faucet.
But this time there are actual proof KillMails, unlike the lack of legitimate Incursion data. RIP Vile Rat-á "The only thing worse than being talked about is not being talked about." - Oscar Wilde |

Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
1033
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Posted - 2012.12.01 17:53:00 -
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Doddy wrote:Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:trolling. He's doing it in another Thread as well atm......  Erm no, you just seem to think people in amamake can see through cloaks or something.
Time for today's Block #2. RIP Vile Rat-á "The only thing worse than being talked about is not being talked about." - Oscar Wilde |

Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
10469
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Posted - 2012.12.01 17:56:00 -
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Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:But this time there are actual proof KillMails, unlike the lack of legitimate Incursion data. GǪthat show an increase from nil to nil times two. End result: the chance is roughly nil. Oh, and there was no lack of legitimate incursion data GÇö just a lack of data showing the message they wanted to convey, which is why they had to get the word out in an attempt to create an alternate reality. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: newbie skill plan. |

Doddy
Excidium. Executive Outcomes
380
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Posted - 2012.12.01 17:58:00 -
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Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:Doddy wrote:Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:trolling. He's doing it in another Thread as well atm......  Erm no, you just seem to think people in amamake can see through cloaks or something. Time for today's Block #2.
I get it, "anyone who shows i am wrong shall be blocked so i can still be right". |

Alara IonStorm
3631
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Posted - 2012.12.01 18:03:00 -
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Krixtal Icefluxor wrote: But this time there are actual proof KillMails, unlike the lack of legitimate Incursion data.
Know what I see when I look at the board. Cap Ship kills flanking Freighters 2+ to 1. Is there a Capital Ship Death epidemic too?
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Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
1033
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Posted - 2012.12.01 18:05:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:But this time there are actual proof KillMails, unlike the lack of legitimate Incursion data. GǪthat show an increase from nil to nil times two. End result: the chance is roughly nil. Oh, and there was no lack of legitimate incursion data GÇö just a lack of data showing the message they wanted to convey, which is why they had to get the word out in an attempt to create an alternate reality.
I dunno. I don't see nearly as many freighters as I used to , if so , the propaganda campaign must have been successful.
But yeah, that whole Incursion Thing was a crock.
edit: anyway, we are sidetracked from, what, Blockade Runners ??  RIP Vile Rat-á "The only thing worse than being talked about is not being talked about." - Oscar Wilde |

Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
5648
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Posted - 2012.12.01 18:06:00 -
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Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:Dave stark wrote:Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:Dave stark wrote:Bennet Am wrote:Because now they can scan me and see that I'm empty or hauling 80 million in crap. After the expansion, I might be smuggling 100 PLEX. and just like now, they will never know because you will be cloaked and align almost as fast as a frigate. This is negated at station undock. which is why you make undock bookmarks. Try that in Amamake 
what station? ~*a-áproud belligerent undesirable*~
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Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
1033
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Posted - 2012.12.01 18:07:00 -
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Andski wrote:
what station?
I can't touch this one........... RIP Vile Rat-á "The only thing worse than being talked about is not being talked about." - Oscar Wilde |

Mag's
the united Negative Ten.
10749
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Posted - 2012.12.01 18:11:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Mag's wrote:How does not being able to cloak at Jita undock, make the cloak unable to provide scan immunity? Like I said, why would you even try? Try to scan, you mean? WeeellGǪ sometimes, they just get sloppy, so it's worth a try. It's not like you'll waste a lot of time trying it GÇö the GÇ£nuh-uhGÇ¥ is pretty immediate if it won't work. At any rate, it's a pretty academic question since you're able to cloak just as well on the Jita 4-4 undock as on any other (except maybe Jita 4-10), and since it's already impossible to scan anyone sane on any well-used undock ramp, cloak or no cloak. Indeed. I was trying to get them to the point, where they understood that fact. 
CCP Zulu..... Forcing players to dock at the captain's quarters is a form of what we actually wanted to get through, which is making Incarna a seamless part of the EVE Online experience. |

Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
10470
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Posted - 2012.12.01 18:15:00 -
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Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:I dunno. I don't see nearly as many freighters as I used to , if so , the propaganda campaign must have been successful. Of course not. The freighter pilots are scaring themselves with stories about nasty evil pirates lurking in the shadows. Meanwhile, anyone with a clue makes bank from getting more bulk orders on the market with less competition. 
Quote:edit: anyway, we are sidetracked from, what, Blockade Runners ??  I just see it as compensation for losing my silly-good safe Orca, so it's all good. I certainly understand the Gǣbah, buff idiocy why don't you?!Gǥ sentiment since it definitely does that, but stillGǪ I see the BRs as a better option than DSCs since they have a lower cargo capacity and one of the things that made the Orca so silly was the sheer amount of stuff you could cart around risk-free.
That said, DSCs could use something too to make them a viable choice forGǪ somethingGǪ anything.
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: newbie skill plan. |

Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
5648
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Posted - 2012.12.01 18:21:00 -
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Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:Andski wrote:
what station?
I can't touch this one...........
okay ima give you a protip (tip from a pro) here so it goes like this you see
you undock with all brackets enabled and see if any warpable celestial is inline with the undock
if there is one, you bookmark the undock, instawarp to that celestial, warp back to your undock BM at 100, delete the old undock bookmark, create a new one and keep doing that, rinse and repeat until satisfied ~*a-áproud belligerent undesirable*~
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baltec1
Bat Country
3001
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Posted - 2012.12.01 18:41:00 -
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After all of these words in this thread we are still no closer to figuring out why this change has happened |

Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
1033
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Posted - 2012.12.01 18:44:00 -
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Andski wrote:Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:Andski wrote:
what station?
I can't touch this one........... okay ima give you a protip (tip from a pro) here so it goes like this you see you undock with all brackets enabled and see if any warpable celestial is inline with the undock if there is one, you bookmark the undock, instawarp to that celestial, warp back to your undock BM at 100, delete the old undock bookmark, create a new one and keep doing that, rinse and repeat until satisfied
This we know.
The point is to do it in Amamake without getting popped as soon as station exit is made, before cloaking. RIP Vile Rat-á "The only thing worse than being talked about is not being talked about." - Oscar Wilde |

Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
1033
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Posted - 2012.12.01 18:46:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:After all of these words in this thread we are still no closer to figuring out why this change has happened 
Well, I think there is a hint in this blog.......about a certain Dev and his 'desires'.
http://jestertrek.blogspot.com/2012/11/second-coming-of-comment-of-week.html RIP Vile Rat-á "The only thing worse than being talked about is not being talked about." - Oscar Wilde |

Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
5648
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Posted - 2012.12.01 18:48:00 -
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Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:The point is to do it in Amamake without getting popped as soon as station exit is made, before cloaking.
Yeah uh this doesn't happen because ships undock with invulnerability ~*a-áproud belligerent undesirable*~
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Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
1931
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Posted - 2012.12.01 18:53:00 -
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Someone screwed up.
Even if some of the bizarre scenarios that people are coming up with ever happened in the actual game, it's still a dumb change. Dumb as in pointless. No one gets locked in a blockade runner unless they allow it. Ever.
Deep space transports, on the other hand, would benefit from this. But it seems they are just left as the bastard child that gets ignored because no one want's to have anything to do with him anyway. I know I never fly one. But I might if it had scan immunity.
Mr Epeen  -ávOv |

Doddy
Excidium. Executive Outcomes
380
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Posted - 2012.12.01 18:57:00 -
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Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:Andski wrote:Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:Andski wrote:
what station?
I can't touch this one........... okay ima give you a protip (tip from a pro) here so it goes like this you see you undock with all brackets enabled and see if any warpable celestial is inline with the undock if there is one, you bookmark the undock, instawarp to that celestial, warp back to your undock BM at 100, delete the old undock bookmark, create a new one and keep doing that, rinse and repeat until satisfied This we know. The point is to do it in Amamake without getting popped as soon as station exit is made, before cloaking.
Someone tell him that you can fly to the point and bm it without ever having to go within 100k of the station. |

YoYo NickyYo
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
47
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Posted - 2012.12.01 19:03:00 -
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People actually use Blockade runners in High-sec? Small stuff, Cheetah, big stuff Jump freighter, why would you ever risk a blockade runner is beyond me...
"Working as intended" |

Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
1034
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Posted - 2012.12.01 19:15:00 -
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YoYo NickyYo wrote:People actually use Blockade runners in High-sec? Small stuff, Cheetah, big stuff Jump freighter, why would you ever risk a blockade runner is beyond me... 
(sighs)
Daily PI Low Sec pickups are too big for a frigate and a freighter would be incredibly stupid overkill. RIP Vile Rat-á "The only thing worse than being talked about is not being talked about." - Oscar Wilde |

ctx2007
Wychwood and Wells Beer needs you
188
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Posted - 2012.12.01 19:20:00 -
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What makes Amamake so special? |

Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
1034
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Posted - 2012.12.01 19:20:00 -
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Mr Epeen wrote:Someone screwed up. Even if some of the bizarre scenarios that people are coming up with ever happened in the actual game, it's still a dumb change. Dumb as in pointless. No one gets locked in a blockade runner unless they allow it. Ever. Deep space transports, on the other hand, would benefit from this. But it seems they are just left as the bastard child that gets ignored because no one want's to have anything to do with him anyway. I know I never fly one. But I might if it had scan immunity. Mr Epeen 
I survived exactly 24 months of Low Sec PI successfully with my Cloaky Blockade runners.
The ONE TIME I used a cloaky Bustard with 4 stabs giving Warp +6 (yes, I know the cloak/mwd trick), I still got caught at the first POCO I arrived at with Focused Interdiction. They are indeed terrible ships.
http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=14682167 RIP Vile Rat-á "The only thing worse than being talked about is not being talked about." - Oscar Wilde |

Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
1034
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Posted - 2012.12.01 19:22:00 -
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ctx2007 wrote:What makes Amamake so special?
Oh, today's kills there so far:
http://eve-kill.net/?a=system_detail&sys_id=2538 RIP Vile Rat-á "The only thing worse than being talked about is not being talked about." - Oscar Wilde |

ctx2007
Wychwood and Wells Beer needs you
188
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Posted - 2012.12.01 19:25:00 -
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Ah thats a lot of tears |
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