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LT Alter
TunDraGon
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Posted - 2012.12.04 23:52:00 -
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Yusef Yeasef Yosef wrote:LT Alter wrote:Yusef Yeasef Yosef wrote:LT Alter wrote:I see some people like it while a majority does not,... Way to jump to conclusions based upon almost nothing. You should get a job as a professional poll taker. Those with higher level brains realize I am talking about those who have taken the time to post a constructive comment in the thread. You go look back and tell me what number dislikes this and what number likes it and you will find a majority. Thanks for your oh so constructive comment. ...And that is nowhere near enough info to propose that a company spend resources to allow dual funtionality. To suggest otherwise is,... Silly.
A small example gives reason to gain a bigger example. CCP has followed that rule using the forums because less than a fourth (probably less) post regularly on the forums. If they see a trend on the forums they will expand their search. I have already talked to many of my PVP friends and they have much the same view as I and I see a trend. I'm posting on the forums to see if there is a trend here and there is. Information is cumulative and if you see multiple upon multiple of the same trend change is in the wind. Support me in my efforts not for the fact that you are fine with how the change has effected you, but for the fact that many are not so. |
Tyberius Franklin
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
380
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Posted - 2012.12.05 00:00:00 -
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Rroff wrote:...Its not how humans naturally read information (left<>right/right<>left)... A number of circular and semicircular gauges in use on a number of locations and devices would indicate that round gauges are very much capable of being intuitive. Additionally a circular gauge as currently implemented provides indisputably greater information granularity that the old bar was capable of. |
galenwade
Red Federation
58
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Posted - 2012.12.05 00:01:00 -
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It seems ok to me ,
I wonder if a lot of the hate for it is the standard "urgh change " that tends to effect MMO players
In saying that ... why can't they have both . Let people pick what one they want ?
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Arec Bardwin
803
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Posted - 2012.12.05 00:02:00 -
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Hate the new in space UI checking in. Takes more screen space for no more functionality.
I love the ability to have two lines of targets though, but the hit notifications are just bloody annoying; option to remove it please!
Arabian Mistress wrote:Do you write in circles? No. Humans write in lines because its easiest to understand and look at, or maybe people write in circles in Iceland. |
Marlona Sky
D00M. Northern Coalition.
2167
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Posted - 2012.12.05 00:03:00 -
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Should have let us customize each of the health bars with the color of our choosing.
Remove local, structure mails and revamp the directional scanner! |
Lexa Hellfury
Adversity.
199
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Posted - 2012.12.05 00:15:00 -
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LT Alter wrote: If anything I hope CCP implements the option to use the old version if you want to.
Thoughts on this?
CCP doesn't implement options (ever), they cram new **** straight down your throat whether you like it or not, even if it's something so simple as a UI change. |
Nyaris Wolfe
Fade To Darkness
16
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Posted - 2012.12.05 00:56:00 -
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No issues with the new one, it works fine does what I need. I actually prefer it.
One mans water e.t.c e.t.c I am an Alt who's main is too damn cheap to sub. http://aracimia.blogspot.co.uk/ Brony Capsuleer best Capsuleer!
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Souisa
WESCORP 2.0
58
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Posted - 2012.12.05 01:04:00 -
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Why did they change it? What was the probleM? o/ |
Damasa Cloudwalker
Cloudwalker Enterprises
14
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Posted - 2012.12.05 01:07:00 -
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Both the target reticle and the target icons need to be DRASTICALLY reduced in size.
Safety needs to be removed, or at least an option to remove it in the menu.
Sounds need to be re-visited, they are horrible. Especially the steel door sound, the "whoosh" going into warp and the "alarms" for the shield, armor, hull alerts.
Lots of unnecessary changes when they should have been balancing ships and fixing the broken wardec system.
Way to go CCP! |
Angsty Teenager
Broski North Black Legion.
76
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Posted - 2012.12.05 01:13:00 -
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Why can't they just allow us to use the old UI if we wish. There was nothing wrong with it. This is unbelievably infuriating for me. |
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Jacob Mordecai
Ordo Mercuia
1
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Posted - 2012.12.05 01:19:00 -
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totally agree let us use both so everyone will be happy |
Yusef Yeasef Yosef
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
18
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Posted - 2012.12.05 19:46:00 -
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Jacob Mordecai wrote:totally agree let us use both so everyone will be happy
This would not be true since many didn't like the old system. I suspect that many who don't like the new, also didn't like the old.
Personally, I like the graphical display of who is damaging you the most.
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Jame Jarl Retief
Murientor Tribe Defiant Legacy
505
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Posted - 2012.12.05 19:59:00 -
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Yusef Yeasef Yosef wrote:This would not be true since many didn't like the old system. I suspect that many who don't like the new, also didn't like the old.
This, pretty much. I wasn't too fond of the old system. And I don't really like the new system, it's not clear enough at a glance, and not intuitive enough. Given a choice though, I'd probably go back to the old version. Somehow square targeting in a game full of square windows (overview, D-scan, local, etc.) looks better to me, more consistent. However, if they re-do the UI so that all windows have rounded corners? Might be better. Readability should still be improved though. |
War Kitten
Panda McLegion
1478
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Posted - 2012.12.05 20:05:00 -
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LT Alter wrote:Yusef Yeasef Yosef wrote:LT Alter wrote:I see some people like it while a majority does not,... Way to jump to conclusions based upon almost nothing. You should get a job as a professional poll taker. Those with higher level brains realize I am talking about those who have taken the time to post a constructive comment in the thread. You go look back and tell me what number dislikes this and what number likes it and you will find a majority. Thanks for your oh so constructive comment.
At the top of page 2 you declare a majority? Statisticians with higher level brains would like a word with you.
Put me down for 2 votes of "like the new".
(Vote early, vote often!)
I find that without a good mob to provide one for them, most people would have no mentality at all. |
Jenn aSide
STK Scientific Initiative Mercenaries
497
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Posted - 2012.12.05 20:08:00 -
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LT Alter wrote:Just curious as I find the new one, while it may look cooler it just doesn't display information well enough. I have to look REALLY closely for a few seconds to notice exactly what my target has for shield armor or hull. It doesn't have that ability to glance at it like the old one. If anything I hope CCP implements the option to use the old version if you want to.
Thoughts on this?
X-bring back the old box targets. CCP Gargant:-á this game requires a certain amount of simply going out there and chatting with people. You will get scammed, destroyed, cheated, trolled, and blown up but that is just a part of the essence of this game. -á |
Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
1942
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Posted - 2012.12.05 20:09:00 -
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Being the Gallente God that I am, I find so far that neither old or new really help me where it counts. That's as a functional drone UI.
Although once I have my new drone strategies worked out and start on the actual targeting and using my turrets, I think the new one will be no better or worse than the old. Just different.
Mr Epeen -ávOv |
RomeStar
Astra Research
52
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Posted - 2012.12.05 20:14:00 -
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Vertisce Soritenshi wrote:I love the new UI. It's a massive improvement over the old one. I like the information given to me on the new UI and I like the way it is presented. Thanks CCP. This was a good improvement!
Take your tongue out of the devs a$$. Signatured removed, CCP Phantom |
NSA Bivas
Total Mayhem. Northern Coalition.
2
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Posted - 2012.12.05 20:18:00 -
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when u get targeted buy npc or player u get a yellow box, when they shoot u get a red box what does the red circle around the ship represents? its really annoying and it makes me dizzy because of the diffuse in color
the target icon its really hard to make difference between shield armor and hull and during fights u don't really wanna focus on them to really see them need to be able to notice them whit your peripheral vision what u cant really do now at least in my case
BRING BACK MY OLD TARGETING SYSTEM !!!!! YouTube Channel Twitch Channel-á |
Yusef Yeasef Yosef
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
19
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Posted - 2012.12.05 20:21:00 -
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NSA Bivas wrote:when u get targeted buy npc or player u get a yellow box, when they shoot u get a red box what does the red circle around the ship represents?
The red circle is an incoming damage reference. The ones with the brightest and biggest circles are doing the most real damage to you. |
Furoth
Black Avarice
10
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Posted - 2012.12.05 20:34:00 -
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Don't like the new targets.
I don't like crapping on peoples hard work but i think this is a step backwards. As circles i find it harder to get a sense of scale for each hit. The old one was simple and informative and took up less space. The new rings are harder to read and the new circular shape even crowds in the ship icon in the middle. I actually like the old 'cleaner' look better. It didn't get in the way like the new system.
The red glow is much too big for most engagements and further degrades the view. They really should be smaller.
Aesthetics < functionality. Dosen't offer anything new but does eat up screen. Sorry. |
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Funky Lazers
Shin-Ra Ltd
17
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Posted - 2012.12.05 20:37:00 -
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LT Alter wrote:Just curious as I find the new one, while it may look cooler it just doesn't display information well enough. I have to look REALLY closely for a few seconds to notice exactly what my target has for shield armor or hull. It doesn't have that ability to glance at it like the old one. If anything I hope CCP implements the option to use the old version if you want to.
Thoughts on this?
Yea, I said this on a test server and there was almost no reaction.
Those new bars (HP/Armor/Hull) are very hard to read. |
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
2804
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Posted - 2012.12.05 20:57:00 -
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Much in favor of the new one, very intuitive and easy to read.
For those complaining that it's too big, a size comparison was done. I think you'll be surprised, and a bit embarrased by the results. To carve a successful niche for yourself in EVE you need to be able to out sell, out produce, out fight,-á out run, or out wit your competitors. If you can do none of the above, your only option is to complain on the forums that somehow you are at a disadvantage using the exact same tool set-áas the rest of the player base. |
Mara Rinn
Cosmic Goo Convertor Cosmic Consortium
2190
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Posted - 2012.12.05 20:58:00 -
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Part of the problem is that the new bars are actually loose collections of boxes. There is (too much) space between the segments. Day 0 advice for new players: Day 0 Advice for New Players |
Lugia3
Dromedaworks inc Tribal Band
129
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Posted - 2012.12.05 21:14:00 -
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I would prefer an option to use the old square or the new inefficient pizza. Give drones some love: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2176396&#post2176396 |
Ave Kathrina
My Ass Is On Fire
7
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Posted - 2012.12.05 21:57:00 -
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Not wanting to sounds like an old stink in the mud.... but I prefer the old.
I think I could get used to the new if only the mini ship portraits were not so f'ing dark - the nice thing about the old was that you could easily see the ship type, this new one makes it bloody hard.
I'll try playing around with my brightness/gama. |
FluffyDice
Psykotic Meat Fatal Ascension
241
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Posted - 2012.12.05 22:12:00 -
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All you people squinting might want to get your eyes checked. |
xpl0de
Dissident Aggressors Mordus Angels
4
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Posted - 2012.12.05 22:14:00 -
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My first thoughts last night after a fight were literally, I wish they bring back the old bars. Its pretty annoying to have to squint to see their hp in the middle of a fight. CCP WHY U NO LIKE BARS |
Sentamon
305
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Posted - 2012.12.05 22:21:00 -
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This UI is a massive improvement.
Now lets do something about that 1990s spreadsheet Overview. ~ Professional Forum Alt -á~ |
Edenmain
Euphoria Released Verge of Collapse
7
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Posted - 2012.12.05 22:56:00 -
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it's pretty terrible, the locked targets stay in position rater than move down in ther order you locked them, so you are constantly squinting to see which is the next target as the pictures of the ships are so vague. I list targets vertically and now only 3 fit upwards? that means with 7 locked targets I will have 3 columns of targets.
I can even stomach that if the new damage notifications didnt give me brain cancer, why The F*** have a constant stream of unreadable text scrolling in the middle of the screen? I heard rumours that I can move it, or even get rid of it.
Why are there big red blobs around enemy ships? This and to the already messy messy over view.
When engaging multiple war targets they flash on the overview. For some bizaar reason certain targets flash out of sinc with the rest again making it a complete headf**k to look at.
The circular locked targets are very hard to read, it is very confusing to quickly assertain how much damage a volley/strike is doing against your target without hovering your mouse over it. They are also too far apart on the screen.
In all, it it far, far too busy and meesy than before displaying pointless crap and colours for no reason, in a very poor manor for anyone engaging multiple targets, or running missions against multiple targets.
Please make my Christmas and let me use the old system. this new one is abysmally poor.
The only redeeming factor is the new skills allow me to be unprobable again so I can run missions whilst tabbed out, thus avoiding need a labotomy before bedtime after looking at the screen. |
Casirio
DEEP-SPACE CO-OP LTD Exhale.
169
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Posted - 2012.12.05 22:58:00 -
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I thought I wouldn't like it...but i've gotten used to it and now I like it better. I get a much better sense of where the targets HP levels are at. |
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