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LT Alter
TunDraGon
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Posted - 2012.12.04 22:12:00 -
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Just curious as I find the new one, while it may look cooler it just doesn't display information well enough. I have to look REALLY closely for a few seconds to notice exactly what my target has for shield armor or hull. It doesn't have that ability to glance at it like the old one. If anything I hope CCP implements the option to use the old version if you want to.
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Myfanwy Heimdal
Heimdal Freight and Manufacture Inc
177
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Posted - 2012.12.04 22:19:00 -
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When I first saw this this evening I thought that I was being jumped by something utterly different so I warped out of my ratting belt. When I realised that we had an 'improvement' and went back in.
I have to admit to feeling the same as you. It looks nice but it's not so clear as before.
Also the selected target in the main screen looks as if it's been altered for Windows 8 finger push select with a big round red wossit to press.
I expect that I will get used to them but I don't like to squint and peer at the screen when I should do is just to glance at it. |
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
5761
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Posted - 2012.12.04 22:20:00 -
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The new one is pretty neat, but I will always have the old one to heart (and tattoo) haha
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Arabian Mistress
Republic University Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.12.04 22:23:00 -
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Chribba wrote:The new one is pretty neat, but I will always have the old one to heart (and tattoo) haha
The new UI clutters the screen and is not practical. Do you write in circles? No. Humans write in lines because its easiest to understand and look at, or maybe people write in circles in Iceland.
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Geoscape
Test Alliance Please Ignore
45
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Posted - 2012.12.04 22:26:00 -
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I very much prefer the old locked target hp bars. Flying logistics is downright painful with the new hp bars, its difficult to quickly see which targets need reps.
The new hp bars have no advantages over the old ones except that it saves a bit of vertical screen real estate. |

Pohbis
113
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Posted - 2012.12.04 22:35:00 -
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Chribba wrote:The new one is pretty neat, but I will always have the old one to heart (and tattoo) haha Neat and not functional.
CCP must now this as well. I for one seriously doubt anyone there would dare to suggest they start using something similar for the Tournament UI, 'cause; "it's so neat and functional".
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Lysa Riay
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2012.12.04 22:37:00 -
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Squares over mega-sized pizzas
and silence over buzzes, plops & ...
 Hand the UI over to those that use it! |

Vertisce Soritenshi
Tactical Vendor of Services and Goods Partners of Industrial Service and Salvage
1860
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Posted - 2012.12.04 22:39:00 -
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I love the new UI. It's a massive improvement over the old one. I like the information given to me on the new UI and I like the way it is presented. Thanks CCP. This was a good improvement! EVE is not about PvP.-á EVE is about the SANDBOX! |

Mara Rinn
Cosmic Goo Convertor Cosmic Consortium
2187
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Posted - 2012.12.04 22:44:00 -
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I actually preferred the segmented circle HP display over the current layered arc display. I am willing to cope with change if that change will produce some benefit, some will give this new target information display some time before passing judgement.
It did occur to me that a segmented circle HP display could be part of the target reticle in the HUD.
My only gripe about the current display is the extreme separation between targets and the icons representing the modules active on that target. Oh, and that the target reticle is drawn over the target instead of bordering it, so even though I have the camera zoomed in to take advantage of tracking camera mode I still can't see the target unless I use CTRL+F9 to hide the UI. Day 0 advice for new players: Day 0 Advice for New Players |

Angsty Teenager
Broski North Black Legion.
74
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Posted - 2012.12.04 22:44:00 -
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Vertisce Soritenshi wrote:I love the new UI. It's a massive improvement over the old one. I like the information given to me on the new UI and I like the way it is presented. Thanks CCP. This was a good improvement!
Oh really? Like what? The smaller damage bars that you have to squint to see? The larger amount of screen space the targeting UI takes up? Or is the combat logs that scroll off the screen in literally a tenth of a second if you're getting shot by more than 3 people?
This UI is completely unusuable for anybody that actually PVP's. |
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Fractal Muse
Dead's Prostitutes Test Friends Please Ignore
54
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Posted - 2012.12.04 22:47:00 -
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I totally prefer the new one.
It is so much better.
You'll get used to it. The way I see it, if you found the old bars giving you information quickly then once you get used to this one you'll be getting information super fast!
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LT Alter
TunDraGon
35
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Posted - 2012.12.04 22:48:00 -
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I see some people like it while a majority does not, if anything I feel CCP should release an option to return to the old version or at least have something similar to it. I hate to think what it is like for my friend who is over 50 years old that plays this game and PVP's regularity just how hard it is to see what his target's status is. That is unless he invites him to fleet so he can add him to watchlist so he can actually tell... |

ilammy
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Posted - 2012.12.04 22:48:00 -
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Geoscape wrote:The new hp bars have no advantages over the old ones except that it saves a bit of vertical screen real estate. Nope, this vertical space is now occupied by the icons of modules that are active on the target. |

Zarian Uphius
THORN Syndicate THORN Alliance
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Posted - 2012.12.04 22:49:00 -
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i hate it |

LT Alter
TunDraGon
35
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Posted - 2012.12.04 22:50:00 -
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Fractal Muse wrote:I totally prefer the new one.
It is so much better.
You'll get used to it. The way I see it, if you found the old bars giving you information quickly then once you get used to this one you'll be getting information super fast!
I have been using the new one all day, it is not a case of I feel it looks dumb. It is too small, and the bars are way to small. I can't tell what my opponents status is on his armor shield and hull. It is a problem for me and other people like me. |

Conrad Makbure
Division One Security
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Posted - 2012.12.04 22:52:00 -
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The new one hands down, it takes some adjustment from the old, but an improvement nonetheless. |

LT Alter
TunDraGon
35
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Posted - 2012.12.04 22:54:00 -
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Conrad Makbure wrote:The new one hands down, it takes some adjustment from the old, but an improvement nonetheless.
If they improved it's visibility in some way I would be happy with it. It is not that I'm a cold bitter vet who needs eve to never change. There is just a problem with the new one that simply put needs to be fixed. |

Destru Kaneda
CTRL-Q Iron Oxide.
143
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Posted - 2012.12.04 22:55:00 -
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The first proposal was a million times better, but apparently people hated it so we got this instead. Personally I believe they should have stuck with the original vision, because now we have a camel. Music for robots, geeks, hackers, and nerds. Nerdiest homepage on the internet? |

Codie Dunier
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2012.12.04 22:55:00 -
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I actually think the new Target UI gives me more information quickly than the old one did. The old lines didn't seem to be very accurate, in my opinion. The new one looks a lot better. |

Tyberius Franklin
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
380
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Posted - 2012.12.04 22:56:00 -
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LT Alter wrote:Fractal Muse wrote:I totally prefer the new one.
It is so much better.
You'll get used to it. The way I see it, if you found the old bars giving you information quickly then once you get used to this one you'll be getting information super fast!
I have been using the new one all day, it is not a case of I feel it looks dumb. It is too small, and the bars are way to small. I can't tell what my opponents status is on his armor shield and hull. It is a problem for me and other people like me. Never had this issue in looking at screenshots, but I wonder if using it live makes a difference. |
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LT Alter
TunDraGon
35
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Posted - 2012.12.04 22:58:00 -
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I have nothing against people liking the new one over the old one. Though it is apparent that many have the same view as me, and it is a majority. CCP needs to create an option for those that don't like it to change it and for those that like it to keep it. That is the best fix for everyone. |

Xpaulusx
Naari LLC
110
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Posted - 2012.12.04 22:59:00 -
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New one is annoying. Guess ill get use to it. New Player retention is important to our community. |

Ager Agemo
Saturn Reaper
141
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Posted - 2012.12.04 23:10:00 -
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I m curious about how many might be having issues due to playing at low resolutions or with scaled down UIs or no antialiasing, thinking it would be nice to know if it is just bad design or an artifact from low graphics? |

Rroff
The Xenodus Initiative. Ministry of Inappropriate Footwork
64
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Posted - 2012.12.04 23:12:00 -
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For PVE or if it was something implemented in a desktop application it would be great... for trying to quickly get info for PVP use its a massive step backwards as people have said:
Its not how humans naturally read information (left<>right/right<>left)
Its uses more space to present the same information in a less legible fashion and would be almost unreadable in a proper PVP situation if it was smaller.
I may get used to it but it will always be a step backwards compared to what we used to have and I'll never feel as comfortable with it. |

Tarchus
Association of Commonwealth Enterprises Test Alliance Please Ignore
16
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Posted - 2012.12.04 23:24:00 -
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I hate the new one as well!
But mostly i hate it because i am not allowed to choose between the old one and the new one! |

Yusef Yeasef Yosef
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
17
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Posted - 2012.12.04 23:28:00 -
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LT Alter wrote:I see some people like it while a majority does not,...
Way to jump to conclusions based upon almost nothing. You should get a job as a professional poll taker. 
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Johan Civire
Dirty Curse inc.
217
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Posted - 2012.12.04 23:29:00 -
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Always those QQ people in this forum... No the new UI is great love it. This change was announced 1 month ago or even more in the dev post READ IT FOR ONES. The only problem is and always is that people have problems with new things if old things are change.... Get over it or gtfo. |

LT Alter
TunDraGon
35
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Posted - 2012.12.04 23:35:00 -
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Yusef Yeasef Yosef wrote:LT Alter wrote:I see some people like it while a majority does not,... Way to jump to conclusions based upon almost nothing. You should get a job as a professional poll taker. 
Those with higher level brains realize I am talking about those who have taken the time to post a constructive comment in the thread. You go look back and tell me what number dislikes this and what number likes it and you will find a majority. Thanks for your oh so constructive comment. |

LT Alter
TunDraGon
35
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Posted - 2012.12.04 23:37:00 -
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Johan Civire wrote:Always those QQ people in this forum... No the new UI is great love it. This change was announced 1 month ago or even more in the dev post READ IT FOR ONES. The only problem is and always is that people have problems with new things if old things are change.... Get over it or gtfo.
I saw the first version and started a similar thread with similar responses, even got a dev post and the next weekend I saw they changed it in to a second version that actually reduced the ability to see it further and made the problem worse. I do read them, I do pay attention, but most of all I don't tell other people to 'get over it or gtfo'. I ask for compromise that caters to both sides. |

Yusef Yeasef Yosef
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
17
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Posted - 2012.12.04 23:37:00 -
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LT Alter wrote:Yusef Yeasef Yosef wrote:LT Alter wrote:I see some people like it while a majority does not,... Way to jump to conclusions based upon almost nothing. You should get a job as a professional poll taker.  Those with higher level brains realize I am talking about those who have taken the time to post a constructive comment in the thread. You go look back and tell me what number dislikes this and what number likes it and you will find a majority. Thanks for your oh so constructive comment.
...And that is nowhere near enough info to propose that a company spend resources to allow dual funtionality. To suggest otherwise is,... Silly. |
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