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DrunkenOne
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Posted - 2005.05.07 11:34:00 -
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 Originally by: Factory Lackey
Props to everyone in last nights event. It was not just the [5] but there were several hostile camps on the way there that were shooting anyone that came by.
Now, I managed to make it to the Titan and did shoot it before it podded me , so dont tell me it was impossible to get there because it wasnt.
Now for the [5] and MC....
This is a game of alliances and Empires and Standings, Certain actions should affect those standings. To have two IGA's lend aid to the Serpentis to assist in the theft of the Titan, should have grave consequences for their standings from the Gallente Federation.
To this effect I would hope to see a news that from this point on the Gallente Federation places the [5] and the MC at -10 and as such they are targets to the Gallente faction drones in Gallente space.
Now this would go to make the alliances what they are supposed to be which is Emire Nations of their own, I can only hope that CCP has the wherewithall to follow through on this matter.
1) [5] isn't an alliance, or an IGA.
2) If all the involved corps get a -10 to gallante, they should also get a +10 to serpentis, as well as some other huge bonus.
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SinBin
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Posted - 2005.05.07 11:48:00 -
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I like the fraps showing the 5 peeps in the 200 man force locking ya & all the nautral making up the 200man nice evidance of our point of view, I only set atuk -5 when they said local there helping serpentis most the other corps said nothing & I flew to assit a bs I did think was being attacked by ATUK & he then was locking me & I relised part of there fleet.
Still I got hit by the titan twice & stayed alive wile lots of you muppets died so im fairly happy just would have been nicer to take the titan then have a free for all.
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Waagaa Ktlehr
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Posted - 2005.05.07 11:49:00 -
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Originally by: Factory Lackey
Props to everyone in last nights event. It was not just the [5] but there were several hostile camps on the way there that were shooting anyone that came by.
Now, I managed to make it to the Titan and did shoot it before it podded me , so dont tell me it was impossible to get there because it wasnt.
Now for the [5] and MC....
This is a game of alliances and Empires and Standings, Certain actions should affect those standings. To have two IGA's lend aid to the Serpentis to assist in the theft of the Titan, should have grave consequences for their standings from the Gallente Federation.
To this effect I would hope to see a news that from this point on the Gallente Federation places the [5] and the MC at -10 and as such they are targets to the Gallente faction drones in Gallente space.
Now this would go to make the alliances what they are supposed to be which is Emire Nations of their own, I can only hope that CCP has the wherewithall to follow through on this matter.
It's 0.0 space, guns rule there, not the empires.
When the Titan left empire, there was nothing the Gallente Federation could do, hence their bounty on the ship.
Now if you want to talk consequences... What about all those NPC-hunters in 0.0... What if the factions wouldn't let them dock anymore... :)
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Elve Sorrow
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Posted - 2005.05.07 11:52:00 -
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Shinra has no -10. You're either blue or you're dead. Simple.
About the 5 people locking me - Thats 5 people trying to get an easy frigate kill, instead of listening to their commander and killing the primary target. Not my fault. The numbers given above and in other threads should give you an idea of the odds we faced.
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Antoinette Civari
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Posted - 2005.05.07 11:59:00 -
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Originally by: SinBin
I like the fraps showing the 5 peeps in the 200 man force locking ya & all the nautral making up the 200man nice evidance of our point of view, I only set atuk -5 when they said local there helping serpentis most the other corps said nothing & I flew to assit a bs I did think was being attacked by ATUK & he then was locking me & I relised part of there fleet.
Still I got hit by the titan twice & stayed alive wile lots of you muppets died so im fairly happy just would have been nicer to take the titan then have a free for all.
Because of too many political changes in the last weeks we deceided not to put any corps to -10 but to declare every neutral KOS. That means our oldest enemies have the same standings as some neutral passing by and we cant/wont differ between them. 
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Hanns
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Posted - 2005.05.07 12:05:00 -
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Originally by: Oveur
Originally by: Hanns
Originally by: ThorTheGreat
The event tonight was a lot of fun, I think everyone on both sides had a LOT of fun, we ourselves (Black Omega Security) had a lot of fun, but I think that there is still one thing that CCP need desperately to work on. I think everyone will agree with me here when i say..... LAAAAAAAAAGGGGGGG. I dont know what it is.... but it has been like this for about a year in all fleet battles........ I remember the days when 100 - 200+ fleet battles...... even on dial up was not that bad, a little bit of lag but still tolerable. Ok it has improved in the last fortnight compared with the past year but it still needs a lot of work.(imho) Me, myself had a few kill mails, but I think I would have had a lot more if it had been a little less laggy, most of the time taking more than 15 seconds to activate a module, and reloading a different ammo? was impossible, unless you warp out and back in again.
Other than that though it has been a VERY enjoyable night(so far). Still much of the night to go yet, as of yet the titan is not in serpentis prime.. which as most of you know is many jumps away from the current system of JKJ. Many more battles etc to come yet. =)
Wish you all luck.
Peace, ThorTheGreat. Aka Three.
One word.
PARAGRAPHS.
Hanns, it is so good to see you again 
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DeeCo
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Posted - 2005.05.07 12:13:00 -
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Edited by: DeeCo on 07/05/2005 12:14:25
Edited by: DeeCo on 07/05/2005 12:14:08
I had an absolute blast, I must give props to our first wave of Interceptor suicides that "took one for the lads" They warped into the lag infested battle to get us a spot off the many enemies so we could take optimal and discourage people from killing the Serpentis.
As has been said almost the entire make up of the fleet was enemy in one way or another, we RP'd the situation and even temp napped with some of our enemys to make the game a more fun challenge for you all.
I remember warping in with my Taranis and waiting 40-50 secs before anything showed and seeing a [KIA] crow making a bee-line straight for me, he was 600km away accoring to my screen, but yet he was hitting me. So I returned fire and prayed to lag-o-god I would survive. After a while my hits reg'd on him and he bugged out leaving me in structure, so after the serpentis fleet re-inforcements arrived and promptly podded me 
All in all, the adrenaline rush of facing 250+ enemies made the 8hrs worth it. Wonderfull night and some of the best action in years. Having to limp back to empire in a pod through enemy lands was a challenge in its own right.
Thanks to CCP and the Events Team for allowing us to part take in a RP aspect and to everyone that turned up to shoot at us! Mustn't forget our Temp allies for asistance either
Five will rock ya!
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Alasse Cuthalion
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Posted - 2005.05.07 12:39:00 -
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Edited by: Alasse Cuthalion on 07/05/2005 12:39:49
No, it wasn't 'amazing fun' it was boring and massively frustrating. BoB were geared up for a huge ruck with the Serpentis guys only to find our ******* allies defending it. What a waste of ten hours :/
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Obidios
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Posted - 2005.05.07 12:57:00 -
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Was great!
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Domatavus Fallatus
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Posted - 2005.05.07 13:08:00 -
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Originally by: DrunkenOne
2) If all the involved corps get a -10 to gallante, they should also get a +10 to serpentis, as well as some other huge bonus.
they should also get -10 sec standing :) (rp technically impossible to enter space where theres empire SGs.... unless maybe caldari ;D )
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skini
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Posted - 2005.05.07 13:08:00 -
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i did have alot of fun, but when it became apparent that it is impossible to kill both the Titan and the [5], i logged .. no point in staying on just to waste torps is there?
imo the [5] took the much easier route and i am dissapointed in CCP for not bringing any Gal Navy ships into the fight, even though it was 0.0 space there are plenty of Gal Navy ships in the agent missions out here
props to all involved in the fight, even the ebil pierats 
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Elve Sorrow
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Posted - 2005.05.07 13:12:00 -
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Exactly how is facing 4:1 odds 'taking the easier route'?
We did something unexpected to make the event more interesting.
/Elve
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Kiiith
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Posted - 2005.05.07 13:13:00 -
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Edited by: Kiiith on 07/05/2005 13:15:38
Edited by: Kiiith on 07/05/2005 13:14:40
wasnt online to see it happen, and even if i was, i'd have stayed away, since its 0.0 space. from what i've read so far, it happened exactly the way it should have happened.i love the fact that certain corps defended the titan. it made it feel more like an pre-written story, rather then a player driven story. so kudo's to all corps/alliance's who took part in what sounds like the best event so far.
also people are complaining that they got shot down in a shuttle......well duh!! your in 0.0 space. what did you expect???
sounds like alot of fun, and now i wish i was a pirate :)
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SinBin
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Posted - 2005.05.07 13:15:00 -
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You do relise from a 5 stand point, I was 1 man against 300+ gang & the serpentis fleet with a Titan, awsome & i still lived to tell the tail, I must be much better than them.
I was there also from 7pm to 3am GMT & FIX BOB was also very late coming & sat in 3HQC wile the 5 was attacking the anti titan force, then the titan jumped to 3HQC a secound time & I followed only to be attacked by BNC & gave up shortly after. Yea I see now if BOB IRON FA G IMP all had attacked the 5 then that should have worked out fine but they force was after the 5 attacked.
Everyone needs to get a set of the 5s specail glasses it is more fun when ya win everything & its all so simple, just cos your new rule is all nautral is target dont mean the rest of eve see the same, 1v400 sin for the win maybe it was more like 500 i dunno.
my screens again they show whos around first in 3HQC Imp Iron G & mixed then jkj FA turn up then the spoilers & see me all alone v all them odds boy im hard
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H0ot
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Posted - 2005.05.07 13:19:00 -
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Originally by: DrunkenOne
Originally by: H0ot
I blame the actors for allowing players to simply 'side' with the Serpentis, when in normal (NPC) situations Serpentii wouldn't bat an eyelid at shooting them. Hell I wouldn't be surprised if most of ATUK have a negative Serpentis standing.
Jimmysav has a 9.8 standing with serpentis, and his agent was even flying a vindicator, hence why he RPed us into being an escort.
I said most of ATUK. A single person with positive Serpentis Faction standing doesn't tantamount to 50+ people being accepted as Santa's little helpers.
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And why are you "blaming" people?
Because of their shortsightedness. In my opinion, by beefing up the Serpentis force with every man and his dog they totally disrupted the event.
Don't get me wrong I was never under any illusion that my Punisher was going to take down a Titan, but it would have been nice to see someone else with more coordination and firepower pull it off.
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Riddari
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Posted - 2005.05.07 13:36:00 -
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IN GAME actions should have IN GAME consequences.
-10 Gallente standing to the Serpentis allies. Very simple, very logical.
They can then crawl and ask if Serpentis wanna be friends for the escort.
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SinBin
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Posted - 2005.05.07 13:36:00 -
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I let the GM know in local i was calling the navy giving the titans locatation, i have a very high stannding with Navy & the gms should have spawned some fed nevy into the 5 fleet that would have then more much more fair & agreeable.
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Khal Dominicus
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Posted - 2005.05.07 13:43:00 -
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Edited by: Khal Dominicus on 07/05/2005 13:47:13
Some people actually sound surprised by Shinra's actions. It wouldn't be a true event, without a pirate invasion.
It's historical for Shinra and their bawdy boys to cause grief upon other's player's games. Typical, such as Lalante's actions in the races, and continued griefing from Shinra, and the Atuk corporations towards all other members in the game.
But...Pirates are Pirates
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Elenia Kheynes
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Posted - 2005.05.07 13:53:00 -
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Originally by: Riddari
IN GAME actions should have IN GAME consequences.
-10 Gallente standing to the Serpentis allies. Very simple, very logical.
They can then crawl and ask if Serpentis wanna be friends for the escort.
imo the most logical answer !
I totaly agree with the possibility to team up with serpentis only if those doing so are ready to suffer the consequences.
It would be extremly logic tho i doubt it would happen
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SinBin
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Posted - 2005.05.07 13:54:00 -
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Originally by: Khal Dominicus
Edited by: Khal Dominicus on 07/05/2005 13:47:13
Some people actually sound surprised by Shinra's actions. It wouldn't be a true event, without a pirate invasion.
It's historical for Shinra and their bawdy boys to cause grief upon other's player's games. Typical, such as Lalante's actions in the races, and continued griefing from Shinra, and the Atuk corporations towards all other members in the game.
But...Pirates are Pirates
Yea it wasnt suprising realy but what was & what we almost forget was to thank everyone that did ignor old vendettas like whosyadaddy orbiting by me & got on with the job.
I mean they pvp/gank every day & got a chance for something differnt & did they normal everyday thing.
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Velsharoon
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Posted - 2005.05.07 14:11:00 -
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Originally by: Riddari
IN GAME actions should have IN GAME consequences.
-10 Gallente standing to the Serpentis allies. Very simple, very logical.
They can then crawl and ask if Serpentis wanna be friends for the escort.
bull****, i lost 3 intys fighting the serps before the MC turned up and I have the smack on local to prove I was fighting the serps, plus a 50m bounty
I will accept being made -10 to gallente as long as I can have +10 to serps
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Kiiith
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Posted - 2005.05.07 14:14:00 -
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a new report was released recently.
http://www.eve-online.com/news/newsFromEve.asp?newsID=777
so does this mean that members of the corps defending the titan, now have a 50mill bounty(on top of whatever they already had) on their heads?
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Velsharoon
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Posted - 2005.05.07 14:17:00 -
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no that was early yesterday as the attacks began
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Kiiith
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Posted - 2005.05.07 14:18:00 -
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oops, my bad
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Takrolimus
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Posted - 2005.05.07 14:35:00 -
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A Question to all those who are whining:
WHAT would make a better event
1. A titan and its 10 escorts gets attacked by a combined player fleet of 400. The escorts are annihilated and the titan goes down after 4 hours.
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2. A titan and its 10 escorts gets attacked by a player fleet of 200, and taken to 30% shields. The titan calls for reinforcements from old friends who warp in MASSIVELY outnumbered to buy it some time for more reinforcements. The battle swings back and forth ([5] lost a LOT of BSs), and the defenders gain the upperhand. The journey recomences, until ANOTHER fleet attacks the titan and the defenders are forced to regroup. The defenders then fight off the new fleet and the titan makes another jump towards home. Repeat until either the defenders or the attackers win.
Anyone who says option one is a numpty.
I can understand the whines if the [5] fleet had been 200 BS like we had the other day, but it wasnt. At peak it was about 35 BS, vs at least 50 in any given fight, with upwards of 6 fights.
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Crewmen Redshirt
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Posted - 2005.05.07 14:37:00 -
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Bounties on the five would be a nice touch, but would really just pump up their already over inflated egos
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DrunkenOne
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Posted - 2005.05.07 14:39:00 -
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Edited by: DrunkenOne on 07/05/2005 14:39:00
I'm still having a hard time understanding how 50v200 fleet battle = griefing, can someone maybe explain that one?
Originally by: Crewmen Redshirt
Bounties on the five would be a nice touch, but would really just pump up their already over inflated egos
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DrunkenOne
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Posted - 2005.05.07 14:44:00 -
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Also, if everyone just destroyed it, unless every person was in 1 ginormous gang, you wouldnt get any bounty unless u were the first gang shooting at it. You wouldn't get any reward for killing it, so whats the whining about?
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Elve Sorrow
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Posted - 2005.05.07 14:46:00 -
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I can only speak from my own experience and give my own opinion here ofcourse, but:
I couldnt give a rats ass if i get set to -10 with the Gallente Federation
Yes, from an RP perspective we deserve it. Likewise, from an RP perspective we deserve some standing towards Serpentis. But once again, i couldnt care less. I was there to have fun, and fun we had.
There were alot of uncertain factors mind you. Had MC not showed up, [5] would've had no choice but to sit quietly and watch the Titan be blown up. Likewise, if MC had chose the Titan attackers, things would've turned out way different.
What i think happened was quite simple. Everyone picked sides in such a fasion that we were mostlikely to get a fight. And a fight we had. I did not come there to get a reward, or part of that bounty, or some fat Shadow Serpentis loot. I came to have fun. And i think i can speak for all sides that were involved in the fleetbattles that it was indeed fun.
That's all from me. I'll eagerly await how CCP write this one up.
/Elve
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Arimas Talasko
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Posted - 2005.05.07 14:53:00 -
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Originally by: Takrolimus
A Question to all those who are whining:
WHAT would make a better event
1. A titan and its 10 escorts gets attacked by a combined player fleet of 400. The escorts are annihilated and the titan goes down after 4 hours.
OR
2. A titan and its 10 escorts gets attacked by a player fleet of 200, and taken to 30% shields. The titan calls for reinforcements from old friends who warp in MASSIVELY outnumbered to buy it some time for more reinforcements. The battle swings back and forth ([5] lost a LOT of BSs), and the defenders gain the upperhand. The journey recomences, until ANOTHER fleet attacks the titan and the defenders are forced to regroup. The defenders then fight off the new fleet and the titan makes another jump towards home. Repeat until either the defenders or the attackers win.
Anyone who says option one is a numpty.
I can understand the whines if the [5] fleet had been 200 BS like we had the other day, but it wasnt. At peak it was about 35 BS, vs at least 50 in any given fight, with upwards of 6 fights.
Exactly. Tak hits the nail head on.
Basically what half the whiners here are saying is that if the event had been easy and quick, just a quick focus fire and kill the titan and then race for the can and killmail that would have been better? Greedy greedy greedy. We know you're just upset because you missed out on a chance to get a titan bpc or something.
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