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Miilla Hulkageddon Orphanage 69	Posted - 2011.10.05 19:47:00 - [91] - Quote Takamori Maruyama wrote: Feh , I bet if Hilmar post a video crying ,you guys probally would saying that he is being drama actor or something like that. Instead of asking these sort of absurds, why don't you guys wait for the winter patch or cancel your subs and wait for the patch? So now CCP find their selves in a do it or do it situation there is no more space for escapism, thats my point, but some people are running high on nerdrage to actually see it. And **** yes its a damn corporation , main purpose is money, but now money is threatened, they are going to do something. Coming with those pseudo-anarchist-communist speechs of how evil is the corp for making money its sort of invalid... Nah the tears would be because of one of 2 reasons 1) The recording studio is in Rens 2) He bought one of my Hulks.
Miilla Hulkageddon Orphanage 69	Posted - 2011.10.05 19:49:00 - [92] - Quote Jita Alt666 wrote: CCP Zymurgist wrote: And don't forget to comment in Hilmar's and Zulu's comment threads. Have not read the blogs in OP yet, however seeing this post by a dev, essentially begging us to comment suggests that maybe CCP have finally started listening to both what the players say and what the players do. Nah they just seen what the SALES CHARTS say and do.
Miilla Hulkageddon Orphanage 69	Posted - 2011.10.05 19:52:00 - [93] - Quote Florestan Bronstein wrote: Miilla wrote: I think this is a time where we WATCH MORE OF WHAT THEY DO and LESS OF WHAT THEY SAY. I know many (decent) people that would rather sacrifice their job, company, spouse or pet project than write a public admission of their errors & mistakes the way Hilmar did. Actually no, CEO's do it all the time, in larger companies they even get paid more than the GDP of a developing country to LEAVE the company after. In fact, Himlar will be very successful after, IF WE LET CCP CRASH AND BURN, failure is a requirement to boardroom success. The only CEO's that cry in public when apologising are the Japanese. Either because they have to appear on a gameshow infested with aligators biting them in the nuts, or being dragged down mount everest in a portaloo on TV.
Ladie Scarlet GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 280	Posted - 2011.10.05 19:53:00 - [94] - Quote Wow look at Miilla badposting all over the place in a desperate attempt to stay relevant. The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet.
Miilla Hulkageddon Orphanage 69	Posted - 2011.10.05 19:55:00 - [95] - Quote Ladie Scarlet wrote: Wow look at Miilla badposting all over the place in a desperate attempt to stay relevant. At least my facial features don't look like a Turnip just pulled out of the ground.
Guttripper State War Academy Caldari State 2	Posted - 2011.10.05 20:00:00 - [96] - Quote No matter how this whole matter eventually turns out, one major aspect for me that CCP will have a very hard time of reinstilling into me is the fantasy, the illusion of a futuristic universe. It has been tainted by reality by this whole mess. It is not that I have any mental problems or not grounded in reality, but hell, like most people, I have a job I despise. I feel I do not get paid enough for the over abundant amount of work I do daily. So Eve was my cheap escape from the daily routines. Instead of being worked-up about some slight, I relaxed by "falling" into the whole altered reality of this gaming universe. Over the years, the minor changes began chipping away at this altered reality. - The four races were distinct in appearance and gaming lore. Now everyone appears to be a carbon copy of each other. - The whole lore of being a pod pilot - a living god among mortals that had the curse of being entombed within a metallic egg was reduced to modern day fashion models freely walking without worry in a single room within moments of departing an extention of our physical being (our ship). - To listen and watch this last Alliance Tournament turn into a marketing gimmick instead of combat among the best of the best pilots. - To see that with the conversion of real life money, I can increase my wardrobe! And while there are more, the worst one is the cold reality that CCP went from appearing as everyday gamers that loved what they were doing to a group that pushed potential profits above all. After dealing day in and day out with marketing speak, how to boost profits, and how to deal with even more added workloads under tighter limitations, the last thing I wanted was my break from it all to become that which I despise most. So CCP - show me the care and passion to "want" to be in this gaming world above all other gaming worlds. Thanks for reading.
monkfish1234 Red Federation RvB - RED Federation 0	Posted - 2011.10.05 20:01:00 - [97] - Quote Finally....... thank you Hilmar, anyone who has had to have the realization that they are driving something to ruin should know it hurts.. bad. and It takes a good leader to then take stock and make the changes to put things right and not quit. we all know in our minds what we want eve to be, and how good it can be, look back a couple of years and the gameplay was truly amazing. then we set down a path of wrong turns which have led us to where we are now. but if the numbers say it's going well why stop...? when you have a community of 500k subscriptions many of the voices seemingly screaming the warning just didnt have the support to make people listen. obviously things have changed.. the faithful players reached their breaking point. and now finally this is the first time i think we can really have some confidence that it might not be all talk. it's taken longer than it should but EVE isn't dead, no you can't have my stuff and their are good time ahead. Please now don't think this can all be fixed by xmas, cos it can't. this needs to be a beginning of a relationship with the player base and dedicated teams looking inwards on EVE continuously to maintain balance. now is not the time for a fix, a culture change is what we need and want CCP, don't let us down. monk
Jade Constantine Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction 343	Posted - 2011.10.05 20:08:00 - [98] - Quote I'm quite happy with these blogs and if the summer's revolutionary fervour in New Eden has brought about a change in direction from CCP then all well and good. Perhaps too early for the jita protestors and the heroic forum rebels to pat themselves on the backs yet but its encouraging signs at least. I still believe NeX is an obscenity in Eve though. And CCP should be concentrating on giving us more expensive things to aspire to in ISK (that rl fat cat players can attain by buying and selling plexes etc) rather than reinventing the wheel and foisting this horrible Aurum currency on us. All that vanity content for Incarna should be delivered in the form of blueprints for player industrial manufacture in the traditional manner that enriches the economic simulation rather than shortcutting it. I hope CCP is still listening on this point and is prepared to consider genuine reevaluation of the entire "NeX experiment." The True Knowledge is that nothing matters that does not matter to you, might does make right and power makes freedom. Jericho Fraction is Recruiting!
Kyoko Sakoda Veto. Veto Corp 4	Posted - 2011.10.05 20:08:00 - [99] - Quote Miilla wrote: Because I play free while some other numpty like you pays for my gametime :) Don't ya love PLEX - PAY TO WIN! Buying a PLEX creates a market for PLEX, which supplies CCP with more money than if you had bought a subscription. A PLEX costs $20/month but a subscription costs $10-15/month. Learn to math.
Jita Alt666 310	Posted - 2011.10.05 20:09:00 - [100] - Quote Ok now I have read both Hilmers? lteer and Zulu's Blog. The letter - if released on June 30th (straight after CSM meeting) would have made everyone calm the ** down. While Millia may disagree CCP are admitting they got things wrong. The Blog - Everything listed in the upcoming winter expansion I agree with. Everything. To those of you mocking and dismissing the CSM, check out their blogs on the old forums pre elections. The recent events have compelled CCP to listen to us via subscription numbers and they have listened to the CSM regarding game features. From a jaded bitter player: Big ups CCP for swallowing your pride and realising that with out customers you cant do . Big ups to the CSM for getting the features that every player I know wants. ***** Aye!

Jokerface666 Ever Flow Northern Coalition. 37	Posted - 2011.10.05 20:20:00 - [101] - Quote Milla i feel sorry for you.... srsly..... if you do not have something to say, it's better to stfu then beeing stupid... ------------------------------w00t w00t rapetrain------------------------------
Headerman Quovis Shadow of xXDEATHXx 148	Posted - 2011.10.05 20:22:00 - [102] - Quote Ladie Scarlet wrote: Wow look at Miilla badposting all over the place in a desperate attempt to stay relevant. I know dood, you'd think he'd take a hint and just stop posting... but meh. And thanks to WhiteTree for posting this here dood! [img]http://i53.tinypic.com/bebnf8.jpg[/img]
Simetraz State War Academy Caldari State 82	Posted - 2011.10.05 20:25:00 - [103] - Quote Well I am at work so I can't read it . But by the sounds of the comments, no Incarna and a bunch of stuff that means nothing to me once again. Can't really say I wasn't expecting it though. Capitals (Balancing and Roles)
Janos Saal GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 18	Posted - 2011.10.05 20:32:00 - [104] - Quote Make Mittani Benevolent Tyrant For Life. EVE is dead
Dr Cupid Perkone Caldari State 0	Posted - 2011.10.05 20:33:00 - [105] - Quote I'm reactivating both of mine accounts!
Smoking Blunts Zebra Corp BricK sQuAD. 64	Posted - 2011.10.05 20:36:00 - [106] - Quote took his time about it. should have been said months ago. lets hope its not a case of too little too late CCP-áare full of words and no action. We watch what they do and its nothing but false statements and lies.
EVE Stig Imperial Academy Amarr Empire 11	Posted - 2011.10.05 20:43:00 - [107] - Quote Takamori Maruyama wrote: Jesus the guy wrote a blog asking apologies, blood has been spilled and people wanna see gore and dismemberment . Stop being so bitter, you got what you wanted, carry on and lets proceed for a brighter future. Hilmar alt detected lol "Some say that he is actually dead, but the Grim Reaper is too afraid to tell him." "Some say he is the 3rd member of Daft Punk and he did the vocals of "Technologic" song. All we know is,he's called EVE Stig"!
EVE Stig Imperial Academy Amarr Empire 11	Posted - 2011.10.05 20:48:00 - [108] - Quote Mendolus wrote: Dunbar Hulan wrote: Mendolus wrote: EVE Stig wrote: Mendolus wrote: Let's face it, folks like you will never be happy, ever, with anything. and apologists like you are happy with everything they say Id rather see them DO than SAY I've said dozens and dozens of times on these forums in the past few weeks that I am dissatisfied with Dominion and have been for nearly two years now and the proof is in the pudding that if CCP does not fix or remedy the situation come winter a lot of us will likely see no reason to remain in null sec. Hint: Even Goonswarm is bored with null security. Apologist, hardly. Stop thumping your pulpit. Dunno about that mate, you've been busy thumping your pulpit right through the whole thread. Read what you had to say the first time, so stop boring us with more sermons. What a mundane life you must lead. classic mendolus, cant win the argument cause he got caught telling people not to do what he's doing an he starts with the attacks lol gj! "Some say that he is actually dead, but the Grim Reaper is too afraid to tell him." "Some say he is the 3rd member of Daft Punk and he did the vocals of "Technologic" song. All we know is,he's called EVE Stig"!
The Apostle The Black Priests 166	Posted - 2011.10.05 20:50:00 - [109] - Quote Hellmar said..... Quote: In the last months, weGÇÖve taken a hard look at everything, including my leadership. There ya go Millia, might be a job there for ya. Obviously you're much smarter and could do things better than the entire 600 staff at CCP. Maybe if ya leave Eve, the collective IQ will go to postive numbers. Shut the door on your way out... PS: /me still scratching his head about why Millia sits in Rens all day making isk and vehemently hates the game. /me deduces that Isk may not be for game items? Take an aspirin. If pain persists consult your local priest. WTB: An Austrian kangaroo!
Nel Gardier Time Sync 9	Posted - 2011.10.05 20:50:00 - [110] - Quote Poor form for the CSM to be running victory laps IMHO. If you had a role, fine but don't strut. Actions > Words CCP can publicly eat humble pie all they like but I won't be racing back with all my subs any time soon. Not only does this new/old list need to be done, a lot of time, money and political capital has already been spent making us all beta testers. Imagine what else could have been done during this time? The only reason this could be happening is dollars. If revenue was going up nicely do you think Hilmar would be doing an about face? The best thing to be taken from this is that players can indeed have a strong voice when they decide to act.

EVE Stig Imperial Academy Amarr Empire 12	Posted - 2011.10.05 21:00:00 - [111] - Quote Miilla wrote: Let me just put this PRESS INTERVIEW from CCP here... www.wodnews.net/Home/tabid/41/ctl/ArticleView/mid/401/articleId/69/New-WoD-MMO-info-from-The-Grand-Masquerade.aspx Quote: Incarna is actually considered a prototype, the rendering engine that will ship with the MMO will be much more advanced. man its damn funny when THEY admit Incarna is a WoD Beta test "Some say that he is actually dead, but the Grim Reaper is too afraid to tell him." "Some say he is the 3rd member of Daft Punk and he did the vocals of "Technologic" song. All we know is,he's called EVE Stig"!
Ladie Scarlet GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 282	Posted - 2011.10.05 21:00:00 - [112] - Quote The Apostle wrote: Hellmar said..... Quote: In the last months, weGÇÖve taken a hard look at everything, including my leadership. There ya go Millia, might be a job there for ya. Obviously you're much smarter and could do things better than the entire 600 staff at CCP. Maybe if ya leave Eve, the collective IQ will go to postive numbers. Shut the door on your way out... PS: /me still scratching his head about why Millia sits in Rens all day making isk and vehemently hates the game. /me deduces that Isk may not be for game items? Hi Riverini The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet.
Xyla Vulchanus Sarz'na Khumatari Ushra'Khan 1	Posted - 2011.10.05 21:08:00 - [113] - Quote Pretty contrite and candid little speech from Helmar. You wouldn't have got this from any other game developer. Encouraging to say the list.
Bianca Reeves Stardust Heavy Industries 1	Posted - 2011.10.05 21:10:00 - [114] - Quote Whatever the outcome of this rethinking process might be, this I want to say. In all my years both as a gamer and a professional i have yet to see a CEO to bow as deeply as Hilmar did today. For this very public display of humility he deserves respect. It's far more than what we, the players of EVE could have been hoping for looking back at the past months. Thank you.
EVE Stig Imperial Academy Amarr Empire 12	Posted - 2011.10.05 21:11:00 - [115] - Quote Jokerface666 wrote: Milla i feel sorry for you.... srsly..... if you do not have something to say, it's better to stfu then beeing stupid... way to prove your own point "Some say that he is actually dead, but the Grim Reaper is too afraid to tell him." "Some say he is the 3rd member of Daft Punk and he did the vocals of "Technologic" song. All we know is,he's called EVE Stig"!
Denidil The Graduates Morsus Mihi 104	Posted - 2011.10.05 21:16:00 - [116] - Quote Miilla wrote: .... ******* shut up already. you wouldn't be happy if CCP came to your house, gave you a bag of money, and sucked your genitals. Anyone who is blue to DRF are cowards and have failed Eve. MM Bombers, Best Bombers
Jacob cirth Ion Corp. Citex Alliance 1	Posted - 2011.10.05 21:21:00 - [117] - Quote Zleon Leigh wrote: White Tree wrote: zzzczyzoznzoz wrote: Ladie Scarlet wrote: CSM6: The most effective CSM ever. It's time to make Mittens Chairman For Life nothing at all to do with the mass protests or people unsubbing then the csm is like being a kid and getting a empty box for xmas and being told its a action man deserter A lot of the specifics are things that CSM6 has been stomping its feet about for ages. Good example: Hybrids. I literally never shut up about Hybrids. Ever. I eat sleep and drink Gallente. All that foot pounding had CCP all over it, eh? Don't take credit for something you didn't accomplish. This. You know else never shut up about Hybrids. Ever? The rest of the player base.
Evil Enigma GAIDSAURAS 0	Posted - 2011.10.05 21:22:00 - [118] - Quote I gotta tell ya... business is business. I've got 4 accounts that I'm regrettably taking off of auto-pay. I truly love(d) this game. None other like it. But RIFT is holding my attention more than EvE atm. A simple, boring shallow game like that should NOT be able to hold my attention more than this beast.
Chronix Beebelbrox 0	Posted - 2011.10.05 21:25:00 - [119] - Quote Bravo. Thank you. Reading this has given me hope that EVE's best days will be in the future, and not the past.
EVE Stig Imperial Academy Amarr Empire 12	Posted - 2011.10.05 21:26:00 - [120] - Quote Bianca Reeves wrote: Whatever the outcome of this rethinking process might be, this I want to say. In all my years both as a gamer and a professional i have yet to see a CEO to bow as deeply as Hilmar did today. For this very public display of humility he deserves respect. It's far more than what we, the players of EVE could have been hoping for looking back at the past months. Thank you. theyll get my respect when they produce results not honeyed words "Some say that he is actually dead, but the Grim Reaper is too afraid to tell him." "Some say he is the 3rd member of Daft Punk and he did the vocals of "Technologic" song. All we know is,he's called EVE Stig"!



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