Someone should have held your string harder, cause you are WAY out there.

This is assuming that the Goons analyze and behave this way.

They do not.

What does any of this have to do with the goons? I'm not a goon. You're not a goon. Natsett is a goon but that doesn't make him wrong a priori. I don't even speak to any goons on a regular basis, which actually makes them, strangely, one of the least represented in my circle of contacts.

Get over your obsession. Learn to play EVE the way EVE is meant to be played, which means that I can do anything I can manage to do to you, and you can do anything you want to do back.

Eve isn't completely evil. Its not necessary that you be evil in it.

What eve is, is essentially uncontrolled. Except for the worst excesses of human behavior, and the limitations of game mechanics, there is nothing stopping how we interact.

Last night, while we were on a roam, we took some time for no other reason than whimsy to target up -and then rep- a target. Why did we do this? Because we felt like it.

Hell, lets get back to your Goon obsession. Goons have every reason to hate me maybe worse than they do you. I'm a roleplayer. I spend my time in game pretending to be a Sansha's Nation loyalist (and doing a good job at it). We pick our targets based on roleplay consideration. We interact with people in character except in a few specific instances.

We still play the game, however. We don't demand that people leave us alone to do our thing. When people insult us in local for being RPers, we deal with it, and then usually go about our business of blowing them up or getting blown up by them. Some of our guys mine and do industry as their main thing, and they deal with it all the same.

So when I hear people like you coming into the forums and bitching that someone is doing mean things to them, I laugh, and I laugh heartilly, because you still haven't learned that the way to stop the bully in the absence of any authority figure is to punch the bully harder than he punches you.

Get over it. Start playing the game.

How are you defining who is innocent? Is an alliance leader that's never fired a shot but orders thousands of players to go out and kill others innocent? How about the industrialist that builds guns? The definition of innocence is one that I don't want to tie to a single mechanic. You people decide who you think are innocent and who you think are not.

Are you kidding? I create websites in this game and charge 10-20b isk per website.

I'm writing that I got a bounty of 100k on me. You think me putting a 1b ISK on them is going to change anything in this game? Punching the bully harder is wrong. You are wrong.

Also, I don't have an obsession with goons. In fact, this last post is the only post I've EVER mentioned them in on this forum. Yes, I think they are a bunch of bandwagon noobs who join just to join the biggest group, but I could care less about them.

Thanks for the kind advice, but I'm not here to waste my time running around shooting people. I did enough of that for 8 years in multiplayer DOOM.

I guess I am getting old finally as I find all of this "EVE is completely evil" getting more and more nonsensical and frankly childish.

I'm really starting to watch what I do with my time, and frankly the fact I only had time to read ONE novel the past entire year is telling me a lot. (I usually read over 100 books a year).

In-game consequences for meta-game or out-of-game actions are not a problem.

why can't i bounty ccp and isd employees they are the worst monsters of all

How are you defining who is innocent? Is an alliance leader that's never fired a shot but orders thousands of players to go out and kill others innocent? How about the industrialist that builds guns? The definition of innocence is one that I don't want to tie to a single mechanic. You people decide who you think are innocent and who you think are not.

Did we skip to the date of December 25th while I wasn't looking ? Until then my job is to get under certain people's skin, doncha know?

You clearly don't understand what 'wanted' means.

Wanted persons are criminals to the state. An industrialist is not a dangerous criminal.

Then call it something else like 'Bountied' what what do I know.

There's just no reason as to how a little miner in a Venture should have a huge red WANTED sign across their profile picture, that is ridiculous'


Also, imo it should all be underground and not advertised publicly.. People are not wanted by CONCORD - > but actually by other players. It's like a hitman system. You don't go about putting that in the news paper do you

might i suggest that time spent badposting about a game you have declared you are quitting is a prime candidate for time to reallocate

You do when you're a capsuleer, and by lore immune to the vast majority of all prosecution.

you might say "but you can't shoot them" but RIGHT NOW i should be able to take up a collection for whoever caps you on the ccp roam

tell me the difference of killing someone or paying another person to do it

yeah exactly, it's the same thing and concord should intervene accordingly

it shouldn't be as public as it is and a miner should not run around with qa huge red WANTED sign in their head. it's utterly stupid

CONCORD already allows you to pay to kill someone. Happy to help.

Most of the people I've spoken with don't like it.

Camon, why would they like it? You literally took "Wanted" and threw it out the window in terms of connotation and what it means. 100k bounty means absolutely nothing. It means nothing to the person who paid the bounty. It means nothing to the person who has it. It means nothing to the person who receives the reward. (yay, 20k!). All it means is a big ugly WANTED sign that gouges into my fantasy world of having a (good) player.

You clearly don't understand what 'wanted' means.

Wanted persons are criminals to the state. An industrialist is not a dangerous criminal other people shouldn't let in for a cup of tea.

Then call it something else like 'Bountied' what what do I know.

There's just no reason as to how a little miner in a Venture should have a huge red WANTED sign across their profile picture, that is ridiculous'


Also, imo it should all be underground and not advertised publicly.. People are not wanted by CONCORD - > but actually by other players. It's like a hitman system. You don't go about putting that in the news paper do you

Wanted means exactly that, wanted. It's irrelevant if you have a high standing with any NPC faction, as this is and always has been a player driven mechanic.

They are wanted, because someone has deemed them wanted and they have placed a bounty on their head to tell all the player base this is the case.

That little miner just so happened to mine a roid someone was after and that meant bounty.
Or that little miner it just so happens, to be constantly undercutting someone with their minerals and that meant bounty.

There is always a reason, just obviously not the reasons you want them to be.

Badposting is only an opinion, not a fact.

Old bounty system doesnt work, people ***** and whine.

New bounty system does work and people ***** and whine that they have a bounty and dont think they deserve it because they are not (a) highsec ganker (b) lowsec pirate (c) goon

Because we know (a)(b)(c) are the only bad people in EvE