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Lavii
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Posted - 2005.05.13 19:32:00 -
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Some suggestions please... Are there any decent sci-fi space books or series out there. I haven't found much at the book store, and no starwars, star trek stuff please. I would like something along the lines of fleet battles and stuff. Any suggestions would be appreciate. Thx
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Dust Puppy
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Posted - 2005.05.13 19:36:00 -
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Edited by: Dust Puppy on 13/05/2005 19:37:53 Peter F. Hamilton's Night's Dawn trilogy, anything by Iain M. Banks I here only read Consider Phlebas and it was really good. Read Chasm City the other day (forgot who the author was and lent the book to a friend). The first Foundation books by Isaac Asimov.
That should keep you busy for a few weeks 
Edit: Actually none of those books had any large scale fleet battles. Thinking about it I don't really remember a scifi book that had large fleet battles. The Night's Dawn trilogy is probably the closes thing though. __________ Capacitor research |

Righteous Fury
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Posted - 2005.05.13 19:46:00 -
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Eh, doesn't really meet your needs per se, but a list of excellent sci-fi books read just from off my bookshelf:
2001: A Space Odyssey - Arthur C. Clarke 2010: Odyssey Two - Arthur C. Clarke 2061: Odyssey Three - Arthur C. Clarke 3001: The Final Odyssey - Arthur C. Clarke Childhood's End - Arthur C. Clarke Starship Troopers - Robert A. Heinlein Dune - Frank Herbert I, Robot (not that crappy movie) - Issac Asimov Robot Dreams - Issac Asimov
pretty standard stuff, classic sci-fi
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Lavii
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Posted - 2005.05.13 19:52:00 -
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Thx guys, will try a few of those out.
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Lavii
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Posted - 2005.05.13 19:54:00 -
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And I am reading Peter F. Hamilton's Pandora's Star right now and really enjoying that one. About half way through and it has been a good read so far.
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The Talon
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Posted - 2005.05.13 20:52:00 -
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Edited by: The Talon on 13/05/2005 21:05:58 oops :)
Try these two C.S. Friedman books
This Alien Shore (great character if you can deal with a female as the main, love the future look of the internet and hacking)
The Madness Season (Fredrick the alien whats more to say)
Try this author, both are good reads. And its gonna be two books that most people will not have read. I think they are well written and interesting stories. Though they seem to start out slow once they get going its hard to put down.
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Motive
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Posted - 2005.05.13 21:06:00 -
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If you want to read about space battles give David Weber a try. Not considered good sci-fi, but he has the better fleet battle sci-fi out there.
He has a number of short series that feature this stuff: Insurrection+ sequels: Probably the best set of books with fleet battles and strategy. Closest to Eve battles.
On Basalisk station + sequels (Honor Harrington): They start out with small battles then the battles get bigger and bigger as we follow Honor.
MutineerÆs Moon+ sequels: The first is more a story about fighting on Earth, with the sequels having some fleet battles. Not very much strategy etc in these.
The Iain Banks books are great, but there arent very many fleet battles in them. Worth reading as sci-fi though. The ship names are second to none in here.
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Benedictus Setaro
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Posted - 2005.05.13 21:12:00 -
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Edited by: Benedictus Setaro on 13/05/2005 21:14:37 Forget all those!
The Forever War, by Joe Haldeman.
Best. Book. Ever.
I think theres only one short ship-to-ship battle, at millions of KM range, and thats from the point of view of the main character who's squad is stuck in anti-inertia tank. But the book itself is incredible. ---------------------------------------- Space-Slacker |

Mauxir
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Posted - 2005.05.13 21:21:00 -
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Oh yeah, The Forever War. That book is really good. Going to go read it again. 
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Capsicum
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Posted - 2005.05.13 22:53:00 -
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I like Iain M Banks, Excession is a good one ... but most of his Culture books are good :)
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kessah
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Posted - 2005.05.14 01:28:00 -
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Ive just finished reading a pretty good sci-fi book called
Hidden Empire : The Saga of Seven Suns
its a 3 parter, with parts 1 and 2 released getting part 2 2mora.
I highly suggest it - its by Kevin J. Anderson who has wrote afew Star trek \ star wars books so is quite adept and handling the type of story this book contains.
I do find myself quite attached to the characters in it. Specially the Green Priests of Theroc. Nira sounds sexy hehehe
Slow to start but keep with it - gets very good, lots of twists. 4 races in it, Terrans, Ildrians, Extinct race called the Kilkiss and the Hidden race called Hydrogues.
Dont want to spoil it too much but i highly recommend. -------------------------------------------------------- "I wana get down on my knee's and start pleasin' Jesus, i wana feel his salvation all over my face." - Eric Cartman, South Park |

kessah
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Posted - 2005.05.14 01:30:00 -
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Linkage to a review. -------------------------------------------------------- "I wana get down on my knee's and start pleasin' Jesus, i wana feel his salvation all over my face." - Eric Cartman, South Park |

kessah
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Posted - 2005.05.14 01:34:00 -
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Originally by: Righteous Fury
2001: A Space Odyssey - Arthur C. Clarke 2010: Odyssey Two - Arthur C. Clarke 2061: Odyssey Three - Arthur C. Clarke 3001: The Final Odyssey - Arthur C. Clarke
I saw that odyssey set in waterstones awhile back looked intresting i think i remember myself saying. mind giving me a brief storyline check? am very book hungry atm -------------------------------------------------------- "I wana get down on my knee's and start pleasin' Jesus, i wana feel his salvation all over my face." - Eric Cartman, South Park |

Other Minion
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Posted - 2005.05.14 04:29:00 -
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Edited by: Other Minion on 14/05/2005 04:30:36 Foundation series - Issac Asimov Hyperion -Dan Simmons Dune series - Frank Herbert
ummmm i think timmothy zahn had some decent stuff somewhere...
Could try some funny 80s crap like SnowCrash and Neuromancer
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Thaylon Sen
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Posted - 2005.05.14 04:34:00 -
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Stephen Donaldson's "The Gap Series" - Amazing read, one of the best i have read.
Currently reading "The Nights Dawn Trilogy" by Peter F Hamilton. Well worth a read and some interesting stuff u dont find in everyday sci-fi.
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Righteous Fury
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Posted - 2005.05.14 04:45:00 -
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Originally by: kessah
Originally by: Righteous Fury
2001: A Space Odyssey - Arthur C. Clarke 2010: Odyssey Two - Arthur C. Clarke 2061: Odyssey Three - Arthur C. Clarke 3001: The Final Odyssey - Arthur C. Clarke
I saw that odyssey set in waterstones awhile back looked intresting i think i remember myself saying. mind giving me a brief storyline check? am very book hungry atm
Sure, as brief as can be:
2001: Monolith found, expedition sent to Jupiter but was sabotaged by on-board AI, everyone killed except for one engineer. Said surivor encounters the race that created the monoliths and is transformed before being sent back to Earth.
2010: Rescue mission sent out to discover what happened in 2001. Chinese ship lands on Europa but is destoyed by previously unknown lifeforms. American/Russian ship tries to save them but fails, escapes Jupiter in time to see it turn into a second star.
2061: Kinda hazy on this one. Two missions sent out, one to visit Halley's comet and the other somehow crashes on the newly formed oceans on Europa. Comet mission diverted to save the crashed ship survivors.
3001: "Lost" member of the crew from 2001 is discovered floating in space and is ressurected. Saves the solar system by preventing the creators of the monolith from wiping their "experiment" with the earth.
Kinda vauge I know, I just didn't want to give the good bits away.
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Vel Kyri
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Posted - 2005.05.14 06:05:00 -
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"The Night's Dawn Trilogy" by Peter F Hamilton... Yes, its been mentioned a few times, but it really is good. Some nice space battles etc, and some very interesting things thrown in :) Long read though.
The "Gap series" by Stephen Donaldson. This is probably the best scifi i've read for a long time. Later in the book there are a couple of AWESOME space battles - how i wish eve battles were. couple of frigates, a cruiser and an alien battleship in a asteroid field - and no-one knows who is really friend or enemy :)
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kessah
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Posted - 2005.05.14 10:34:00 -
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Originally by: Righteous Fury
Originally by: kessah
Originally by: Righteous Fury
2001: A Space Odyssey - Arthur C. Clarke 2010: Odyssey Two - Arthur C. Clarke 2061: Odyssey Three - Arthur C. Clarke 3001: The Final Odyssey - Arthur C. Clarke
I saw that odyssey set in waterstones awhile back looked intresting i think i remember myself saying. mind giving me a brief storyline check? am very book hungry atm
Sure, as brief as can be:
2001: Monolith found, expedition sent to Jupiter but was sabotaged by on-board AI, everyone killed except for one engineer. Said surivor encounters the race that created the monoliths and is transformed before being sent back to Earth.
2010: Rescue mission sent out to discover what happened in 2001. Chinese ship lands on Europa but is destoyed by previously unknown lifeforms. American/Russian ship tries to save them but fails, escapes Jupiter in time to see it turn into a second star.
2061: Kinda hazy on this one. Two missions sent out, one to visit Halley's comet and the other somehow crashes on the newly formed oceans on Europa. Comet mission diverted to save the crashed ship survivors.
3001: "Lost" member of the crew from 2001 is discovered floating in space and is ressurected. Saves the solar system by preventing the creators of the monolith from wiping their "experiment" with the earth.
Kinda vauge I know, I just didn't want to give the good bits away.
LOL was abit stoned last nite didnt realise it was that 2001, lol ive watched the films both 2001 and 2010 enjoyed it very much. but the post 2010 books might be worth taking a look at, thx. -------------------------------------------------------- "I wana get down on my knee's and start pleasin' Jesus, i wana feel his salvation all over my face." - Eric Cartman, South Park |

Nuala Reece
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Posted - 2005.05.14 11:51:00 -
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Edited by: Nuala Reece on 14/05/2005 11:53:32 erm ... why does it have to have space battles and stuff? There's so much more to good science fiction than spaceships.
For something a bit different, try Snow Crash by Neal Stephenson (more cyberpunk than spacey). Anything by Philip K. **** (although I like the increasing wierdness of his last 3 books - VALIS, The Divine Invasion and The Transmigration of Timothy Archer). Jeff Noon - also good for the wierd and surreal side of SF (I heard there was the suggestion of making Vurt into a movie aswell). Robert Heinlein, as mentioned - I'm half way through Stranger from a Strange Land atm, no space battle so far but by far and away one of the most engaging stories I've read for a while. Or even look out a copy of The Ballad of Halo Jones by Alan Moore and Ian Gibson.
[Edit] FFS - that one above, of course, should be Philip K. D_ick. And can someone please do something about this ridiculous word filter 
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Danks
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Posted - 2005.05.14 14:44:00 -
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Originally by: Lavii And I am reading Peter F. Hamilton's Pandora's Star right now and really enjoying that one. About half way through and it has been a good read so far.
I'm also reading this one, good story.
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Ralus
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Posted - 2005.05.14 15:32:00 -
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The Alastair Reynolds series: -Revelation Space -Chasm City -Redemption Ark -Absolution Gap Are fantastic, would truly recomend giving those ones a go
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Yolan
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Posted - 2005.05.14 16:33:00 -
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Neuromancer
NUFF Said
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Vel Kyri
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Posted - 2005.05.14 19:00:00 -
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Originally by: Yolan Neuromancer NUFF Said
Ahh! cyberpunk :) the whole series is cool, actually pretty much anything by William Gibsom Neuromancer Count Zero Mona Lisa Overdrive Burning Chrome (short stories - "the Belonging Kind" is AWESOME!) Pattern recognition Idoru
Seriosuly good stuff.
"Snow Crash" by Neal Stephenson is awesome... leave Byzantine and Cryptomicon alone, they are a bit <yawn> at times.
If you like Cyberpunk give "Nylon Angel" and "Code Noir" by Marianne de Pierres a shot - pretty fun stuff.
Back to the space ships etc - give "The Ethos Effect" by L.E Modesitt Jr a shot - the ships there are VERY eve like.. cyber controls, crewed by a couple of people, shields, warp/jump etc... Actually a cool book about manipulation by a hi tech species vs human empires... a couple remind me very strongly of Amarr, Caldari... -----
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nillis
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Posted - 2005.05.14 21:41:00 -
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Quote: The Forever War, by Joe Haldeman.
That book is fantastic. And,altho the film Starship Troopers has a close-ish story line to the book(or so i thought),i would love to see The Forever War made into a film.
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Gemini Stone
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Posted - 2005.05.15 00:53:00 -
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Originally by: Ralus The Alastair Reynolds series: -Revelation Space -Chasm City -Redemption Ark -Absolution Gap Are fantastic, would truly recomend giving those ones a go
Seconded, I really liked these.
Another classic not mentioned so far and that I rated is Greg Bear's - Eon.
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Zeromancer
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Posted - 2005.05.15 10:08:00 -
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Edited by: Zeromancer on 15/05/2005 10:08:45 If you want big fleetbattles and warppoint assaults you should read these books written by David Weber and Steve White:
In Death Ground and the sequel The Shiva Option
Crusade.
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Gungankllr
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Posted - 2005.05.15 10:51:00 -
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1. "The Killing of Worlds" by Scott Westerfield
2. "In Death Ground" by Steve White
#1 is one of the best books I've ever read.
#2 was a good book, you said you liked fleet combat, well, that book is like 99.9% fleet combat. Not much else, and it got kind of monotonous to me after a while.
If you love fleet combat, I'd say go run out and get it though.
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Gungankllr
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Posted - 2005.05.15 10:53:00 -
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Originally by: Zeromancer Edited by: Zeromancer on 15/05/2005 10:08:45 If you want big fleetbattles and warppoint assaults you should read these books written by David Weber and Steve White:
In Death Ground and the sequel The Shiva Option
Crusade.

I had to go to my trunk (at work) to get the titles of those... and you responded while I was in the parking lot...
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Kaalise
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Posted - 2005.05.15 12:48:00 -
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David Brin - Uplift Series Larry Niven - Ringworld .+ (_) Fetch the holy hand grenade |

Verena Intrefer
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Posted - 2005.05.15 14:53:00 -
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Originally by: Thaylon Sen Stephen Donaldson's "The Gap Series" - Amazing read, one of the best i have read.
Excellent space sci-fi. I'd say the setting is quite clichÚ (the "wild west in space" frontier type of thing), at least in the beginning, but the whole thing grows and Donaldson pulls it off brilliantly, and with a dark social and psychological twist to it.
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