This Stealth-Pyerite-Buy-Order needs to take accessibility to the front line.

As is, new players leaving the starter systems can find that their 3 week old pilot can make or produce enough minerals to buy a cruiser every three hours.

Moving roids to scannable belts prevents that. Veld prices would drop stupidly low as it "requires no effort". Cutting another new batch of new players out of their only cycle.

The main power blocs in EVE have "years of history in EVE" knowing that it will take 286 million days for a Titan is accepted and expected (figure out of my ass for ebb and flow). New players don't want to wait 5 months to jump into their carefully selected Myrmidon they've just bought the BPO for.

The current belt system allows cruiser production early, learning scanning skills for 3 weeks -


If you wanted mid-minerals out of the belts they are, its Hedbergite etc... only available at Grav sites in hi-sec. Where is the Morphite coming from if people aren't farming Mercoxit?

You can get morphite easily from reprocessing modules looted on missions. I've got a huge cache of the stuff and I've never touched Merc

And as has been stated previously, I was scanning sites on my second day in the game. It cuts out no one. Just makes them work harder for the rewards.

Once again, another poster that doesn't read the thread before jumping to conclusions. I know you vets like to think you know everything, but if you read the thread, you would see that we've been over this.

Jumping again, your "special gears" sounds to be exatly what the old probes did, also it adds another layer to scanning, which
in itself have enough of micromanaging without adding another one.

Jumping again, your "special gears" sounds to be exatly what the old probes did, also it adds another layer to scanning, which
in itself have enough of micromanaging without adding another one.

Yes, I know, let's take the easy-to-acquire minerals that are too easy to acquire and make them just as easy to acquire by making them a mouse-click away to find.

Let me reiterate: I scanned my first grav site on my second day. Noobs can find them too. And there is also an "ignore result" option on your scanning UI. Learn how to scan.

I.......... increase their number too much, and the whole exercise would seem to devolve into just a rather pointless exercise in needless complexity.

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This and the rest of that post actually brings up a good question. Sure roids can be moved to grav sites. But why? It will not stop the bots because:

A bot is world chess champion.
A bot can drive a rover on Mars.
A bot is world Jeopardy! champion.
Google has bots driving cars in traffic.

If bots can do all that, they can scan out a grav site.

Make miners move? They already do that as systems will get mined out.
Added complexity? It cannot be too complex or it becomes inaccessible content to new players. So why? Just because? It will not make mining exciting, the scanning would be a few minutes before any 2 hour mining session.

So whats the point?

And I spent like 2 weeks trying to scan down anything other than a wormhole.

YOU got lucky.
That doesn't maean that it's the same for everyone. YOU are one person out of a few hundred thousand; your experience doesn't constitute what can be expected as an overall experience.


And I disagree with the OP. There's no reason to move people from the general game world in such a way or extent.

I'd actually like to see more persistance in sites, and for sites to function more like low sec. Admittedly, most people would be against the later.

Everything should be mined out of the belts by now, and its not like we would have any less ore around when a sites used and despawns, new ones show up.

Leave the trait in the belts in small roids for noobs.

A friend of mine runs an entire group of bots in WoW, they do dungeons all day, and he can even run them in a batteground without anyone even realizing they're bots.

I don't understand people that think if you just change this one little thing, or make it a royal pain in the ass to do while actually playing, that suddenly botting will stop.

Not even anti-cheat software can stop bots.

ok i have only mined like 10 minutes in my whole eve career and it was the boringist thing ever. I think mining should be a mini game, like scanning.. where you have to direct your laser on a big asteroid and chip away at it, finding the hidden good bits of ore that can be worth a lot of isk or something. That would be great.

[quote=Toku Jiang][quote=Remiel Pollard]
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The benefits of this:
1) you get EXTRA sites available only to people that have trained for the specific site type
So you're saying that if i don't have the same skillset as the one who found the site, i can't probe his ship down?
Kinda breaks the sandbox, doesn't it?
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Any one noticed how the post quality on the forums takes a dive around 3:15 on the east coast in the us?

This and the rest of that post actually brings up a good question. Sure roids can be moved to grav sites. But why? It will not stop the bots because:

A bot is world chess champion.
A bot can drive a rover on Mars.
A bot is world Jeopardy! champion.
Google has bots driving cars in traffic.

If bots can do all that, they can scan out a grav site.

Make miners move? They already do that as systems will get mined out.
Added complexity? It cannot be too complex or it becomes inaccessible content to new players. So why? Just because? It will not make mining exciting, the scanning would be a few minutes before any 2 hour mining session.

So whats the point?

Just so its clear I made my eve billions doing nothing but high low and null scanning, I know the average by heart but [non scanning combat sites > WHs > grav > combat sites > everything else > ladar] sites.

If u do any amount of scanning u will know that's the order from most likely to find to rarest in the system we have now.