Ok - a few years ago i remember CCP talking about the reason why they changes the doomsday affect from area to target specific.

I agreed with a lot of their thinking, titan AOE doomsdays killed battles.

I am finding that Falcons are in my opinion coming close to being "battle killers"; its relative ease at how it can sit cloaked, and then uncloak to jam targets to me is what is painful; some of the lamest tactics are at play here. sabre on gate go to engage uncloak falcon and sit for 30 + seconds and not be able to defend yourself is quite honestly a game killer.

I like to PVP and I have been using smaller ships since they have give me chest beating than using 250m ships - if i lose my small ship to a falcon jamming is less painful than losing a 250m ship. However, what ever the cost of ship - the falcon is quite honestly a battle killer. i guess this is coming from a point of view of a solo pvp'er but in any sized gang being able to not defend yourself against a falcon or for that matter a BB, is what for me is killing PVP.

You semi to have mis understood me.. you jump through a gate a sabre bubbles and when you have engaged the falcon jams you leaving you defenseless

Ok - a few years ago i remember CCP talking about the reason why they changes the doomsday affect from area to target specific.

I agreed with a lot of their thinking, titan AOE doomsdays killed battles.

I am finding that Falcons are in my opinion coming close to being "battle killers"; its relative ease at how it can sit cloaked, and then uncloak to jam targets to me is what is painful; some of the lamest tactics are at play here. sabre on gate go to engage uncloak falcon and sit for 30 + seconds and not be able to defend yourself is quite honestly a game killer.

I like to PVP and I have been using smaller ships since they have give me chest beating than using 250m ships - if i lose my small ship to a falcon jamming is less painful than losing a 250m ship. However, what ever the cost of ship - the falcon is quite honestly a battle killer. i guess this is coming from a point of view of a solo pvp'er but in any sized gang being able to not defend yourself against a falcon or for that matter a BB, is what for me is killing PVP.

You semi to have mis understood me.. you jump through a gate a sabre bubbles and when you have engaged the falcon jams you leaving you defenseless

You semi to have mis understood me.. you jump through a gate a sabre bubbles and when you have engaged the falcon jams you leaving you defenseless

This is what information warfare ganglinks are for

Can we get past how it happens and discuss how falcons and BB and kitsune destroys engagements

Well, it is the best ECM ship out there, so it is supposed to make life difficult for others. You do need to keep in mind that it is a glass cannon and will be killed in a couple of volleys if you manage to get a lock through.

ECCM also helps a lot, but then you are sacrificing other modules for an unlikely encounter... It IS possible to kill it and counter its tactics, but is it worth it? The same goes for all other PvP ships out there that are fairly situational.

Working as intended.

Get an AF or warp away, are a couple options.

how can you when the sabre has you scammed and because you engaged you can't jump out -like I said ewar is a lame tactic and not very easily countered im almost asking for there to be restriction on ewar..

Working as intended.

Considering devs have been nerfing ECM, buffing sensor strength and have said they'd like to continue to change ECM, no

OK, yes I misunderstood. Your problem then is jumping into a bubble whereas a Falcon is on grid. That is just one of many unfortunate PvP scenarios for a solo pilot. The Falcon wouldn't be an issue w/o a Sabre so....not really sure what your point is about OP ECM.

During recent event CCP formed their blob of 70.

Do you really believe they are concerned about small-scale PvP all that much? I somehow doubt at the scale of 70 vs X mere Falcons are gamebreaking

How can you not jump into a bubble if you are jumping gates.

Everything about the falcon makes it overpowered. Cloak for 1, how easy it is for them to sit at range and to render someone completely defenseless. anything cruiser class and below once committed is dead.

Eve to me is a game where PVP is my end game. How can i satisfy my PVP if everytime i engage someone solo a falcon can come on grid and overpower any fight that is occurring.

I am finding that Falcons are in my opinion coming close to being "battle killers"; its relative ease at how it can sit cloaked, and then uncloak to jam targets to me is what is painful; some of the lamest tactics are at play here. sabre on gate go to engage uncloak falcon and sit for 30 + seconds and not be able to defend yourself is quite honestly a game killer.

You have always the option to fit ECCM or use FOF missiles. ECCM will use up a module slot and you will miss something else which makes you vulnerable to some other tactics. It is a tradeoff like with everything in eve. There is no setup without counter.

I see your problem, but it's not the falcon or ecm.

not really since most of the time i use small ships

Came on here looking for a discussion and got greeted with the usually eve space mines, trolls, flamers

Otherwise, you could do any of a number of things:

1) Fly somewhere else
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5) Use an alt to scout