we're in the middle of graphical updates.

Minmatar just had theirs, I think it's Amarr/Gal left to go IIRC.

Thats not really a graphical update.
Its just changing the models .
We are talking about race wide effects and proper distinction between armor tank and shield tank besides from different colors .
Not to mention much more detailed models instead of relying on textures for the heavy duty works.

You'll expect a game which takes in a game worth of hard earned cash each month would be progressing MUCH faster

ok what do you called 3v shadeing there doing plus models changs i saw there vids you posted and eve looks a hell of alot better then that crap you posted. CCP has been up adding the looks of the game for over a year now.

As homeworld is not as big as eve it take time to changes things in a game as large as eve.

Sorry, but I think it's kind of a slap in the face to the art team (as well as CCP as a whole) to say they're in dire need of a graphical update. They've been making great improvements in the graphics department for a while now and there's still more to come.

Sure, Eve isn't the best looking game around, but it still looks great. It's gonna be 10 years old next year. 10. Very few, if any, 10+ year old polygonal 3d games look even half as good as Eve. Hell, you still get a couple of games up until this very day that don't look as good as Eve.

Just saying...

If you're actually comparing the current graphics to the ones from a game released in 2003 (the same year people started playing EVe by the way), then you probably need to pony up & buy new computer hardware. You can't really judge when you have everything set to 'low'.

If you're actually comparing the current graphics to the ones from a game released in 2003 (the same year people started playing EVe by the way), then you probably need to pony up & buy new computer hardware. You can't really judge when you have everything set to 'low'.

EVE definitely looks better. Those HW2 graphics are just a notch above BC3000AD.

You'll expect a game which takes in a game worth of hard earned cash each month would be progressing MUCH faster

Applying more manpower to a situation does not necessarily mean better results.

You kidding me? Those homeworld graphics suck ass. The graphics here are beautiful.

You kidding me? Those homeworld graphics suck ass. The graphics here are beautiful.

Well true, but I'm just saying .
Where is the revolution?

Lets take DICE as an example.

They published the Frostbite engine back at 2008
And each year we see considerable improvements , and today we have BF3, one of the best looking game on the market.

Then we have Dunia engine.
I don't think much needs to be said.

Back to the topic.
The game aesthetically is good, but we just need to fill in the pot holes.

The problem with that argument is each new version of one of those engines is met with the release of a new game. They don't go back and redo an old game with their new engine. Mirror's Edge and Bad Company 1 are still using Frostbite 1. Crysis 2 is still using CryEngine 2. And so on and so on.

They make updates to the games and the engines, but none of them have gone back and redone those games with their new engines because it's a lot of work even for non-MMOs. in many ways, you're essentially remaking the game from scratch because the engine is the backbone of the entire game.

For MMOs, upgrading engines is a task that takes years. After Blizzard updated their engine for Cataclysm, they said they probably would never do it again because of the amount of time and money that it costs. WoW is their cashcow (pro rhymes). You can call Blizzard lazy if you want, but with the amount of money they make off that game, can you imagine how much trouble it must have been for them to upgrade their engine for them to outright say "we're never doing that again"?

Thats not really a graphical update.
Its just changing the models .
We are talking about race wide effects and proper distinction between armor tank and shield tank besides from different colors .
Not to mention much more detailed models instead of relying on textures for the heavy duty works.

You'll expect a game which takes in a game worth of hard earned cash each month would be progressing MUCH faster

The problem with that argument is each new version of one of those engines is met with the release of a new game. They don't go back and redo an old game with their new engine. Mirror's Edge and Bad Company 1 are still using Frostbite 1. Crysis 2 is still using CryEngine 2. And so on and so on.

They make updates to the games and the engines, but none of them have gone back and redone those games with their new engines because it's a lot of work even for non-MMOs. in many ways, you're essentially remaking the game from scratch because the engine is the backbone of the entire game.

For MMOs, upgrading engines is a task that takes years. After Blizzard updated their engine for Cataclysm, they said they probably would never do it again because of the amount of time and money that it costs. WoW is their cashcow (pro rhymes). You can call Blizzard lazy if you want, but with the amount of money they make off that game, can you imagine how much trouble it must have been for them to upgrade their engine for them to outright say "we're never doing that again"?

Why the hell'd you put on a shirt?

Not everything can be art and for the time it was created HW 2 is just that.

But eve is mmo so shiny space whales is all we can wish for shinier they get less soul they have,i cant feel mass of eve ships i cant admire them on the other hand 2003 hw2 is awe inspiring all with DX9b and decade old graphic..silly isn it.

I like EvE space ambient suns look good background too,stars need work on they are from Pentium 3 era,i like hel even if it isn't updated.

I didn't want to. Someone at CCP hates me. I was literally the only one who had a forced portrait re-render when Retribution went live.

I want answers...

...and a hug.

This year has been a year of progress for EVE.
Especially true since the release of Retribution.
Crimewatch, new missile effects , new ships ,rebalancing , new clothing ,etc.

However , there is still a LOOOOoong way to go.
And when we look at a game from 2003 .

Homeworld 2

We are just catching up to the graphical effects of a game for 9 years ago and in certain areas, such as the destruction mechanics , in-game production and aesthetics ,we are still lagging behind.
Not in terms of quality , but in terms of variation and depth.

We need WAY more community ship model events and much faster pace in updates.

Not on the mechanics ,and not on catering to the carebear whiners .
They're working.
The game aesthetically is good, but we just need to fill in the pot holes.
Lets start polishing the graphics before working on the endless list of "things that would be nice to have "

I'm not sure I would call that an upgrade. While the ship there is nicely textured, the way it moves is very unrealistic and arcade motion. The missile effects are nice, but we have those, and the same goes for the turrets, though I think we have an improvement on both as I didn't notice any models for either. Didn't look that closely..

That and the jump-effect? or whatever that was, and the space itself, and UI...

EVE has that game beat 10-1

Irony: Derrick Smart is a goon and was set to join Goonwaffe but wisely decided Eve sucks.