' the way it moves is very unrealistic and arcade motion'

saying that like it is bad thing..how about a frig bumping 19km ship lol rly eve have NOTHING in space movement that can be considered better.

I'll make it simple.

Good gameplay > best graphics.

/thread

I'll make it simple.

Good gameplay > best graphics.

/thread

Gameplay over graphics any day. I guess it's easier to judge a games graphics over it's gameplay when you grew up with games that look like this, as opposed to this.

(I'm not sure that the old game that I linked was any good because I don't recall ever playing it. In fact, I don't even know what it's called. What I do know is many of those games back then were great. these days so much effort is put in to graphics that the actual gameplay & story is over-looked. The Witcher was actually good, which is rather rare these days.)

Crysis 2 is still using CryEngine 2.

Far Cry: CryEngine
Crysis/Crysis Warhead: CryEngine 2
Far Cry 2: Dunia
Crysis 2: CryEngine 3
Far Cry 3: Dunia Engine 2

Lets make it simple for the simple minded.
Already good gameplay = time to make it better by having better graphics.

EVE already has good gameplay :P
What hurt does it do if we start working on the graphics ?

...oh...ok then. Thank you for the clarification I guess, but the specifics are more or less irrelevant to my overall point earlier.

If only they had been working on the graphics for most of the year

I didn't say I'll rather if they worked on the graphics instead of gameplay.

I said right at the beginning.
This year has been a year of progress .
Meaning that I acknowledge the hard work of the team.

I'm just suggesting ,maybe the next update should have a heavier focus on the graphics.

Because EVE desperately needs another expansion that adds absolutely zero content to the game, while much more important stuff is being neglected.

EVE has better looks than a lot of the other MMOs to come out this year. Not bad for a 10 year old game.

its on high thx.
Try zooming onto your ship .
You'll see the problem.

Zooming in all way on your ship doesn't make for good gameplay. A couple of notches back and the ships look amazing. If nothing else they let you zoom in too far.

Put you face right up to any work of art and it looks pretty bad.

we're in the middle of graphical updates.

Minmatar just had theirs, I think it's Amarr/Gal left to go IIRC.

the OP seems to forget that not all of us can afford a new PC with the latest graph cards EACH year

beauty is in the eye of the beholder , the graphics in this game are pretty good in my opinion and compared with 4 years ago when i started playing they are even better and compared how they were 9 years ago they are brilliant ,
it takes time and effort improving them , CCP can't just shelf everything they work for and only concentrate to improve their graphics each time , the community majority will not like this

@Op. I sort pretty much agree with most of what you said. I think EvE is probably the best looking space game out there but they do need to up their game in certain areas.

My main beef with the graphics in EvE is the effects. They just need to go the extra mile and make sure that they have both visual and auditory oomph. They actually took a step backward in that department in Retribution as far as I'm concerned. The new explosions suck by HW2 standards, the particle system is technically better but the overall effect just doesn't compare.

In HW2, the life of a ship had a certain continuity. When a ship was built or undocking, it wasn't just popped out, it was launched. When a ship dies, it does so in a fashion consistent with it's mass and purpose. Fighters left a streaking fire trail leading to an explosion, bigger ships had secondary explosions and slowly rolled out of control before a devastating final explosion. The sound effect made you feel like the ship was being ripped apart from the inside or that you were fighting for your life in a spacebourne fur ball. I think CCP could learn a lot about battle immersion from HW2.

I totally agree with you about the community ship modeling contests! We definitely need more of them, even if there aren't any prizes other than the possibility of it being put in game. I've been working on a new Typhoon model off and on over the past couple of months and would probably submit it should they have another one. The creativeness of the community was one of the things that drew me to this game so long ago =)

but compared to the competitors of today, EVE is slowly falling behind.

Star Citizen is running on Cry Engine 3 for Christ sake.

and we are running on a puny Trinity2 engine.