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SAJUK NIGARRA
Shadows Of The Federation
Drunk 'n' Disorderly
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Posted - 2012.12.20 08:19:00 -
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Seems there is a general consensus on these forums that FW is broken again. The factions that are on a downward spiral canGÇÖt recover, the farming is going rampant and generally everything is broken, imbalanced or biased.
With that in mind, we decided to put everyone out of their misery and accelerate the ongoing process of collapse that Faction Warfare is experiencing. Over the next months we intend to take all caldari systems, followed by helping minmatar to take all amarr systems. Most of the doctrines we will deploy will be tech 1, giving everyone a fair chance to counter us.
And when there are no more Caldari or Amarr systems left, maybe a new FW can be built, one more in tone with the rest of Eve, without emphasis on PVE and instanced PVP.
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Tsobai Hashimoto
FATAL Warfare
Reckless Faith
5
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Posted - 2012.12.20 08:22:00 -
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Tooting your own horn.....w00t!
And Merry Christmas!  |
Mutnin
SQUIDS.
291
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Posted - 2012.12.20 08:40:00 -
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Not that I plan to fight off the hoards of farmer alts but Caldari will never let you get a medal for taking every system. |
IHaveCandyGetInTheVan69
Angry Mustellid
Iron Oxide.
279
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Posted - 2012.12.20 09:14:00 -
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Why would you willingly put yourselves through such an ordeal? 
Anyway thanks in advance for fixing my FW!
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Hidden Snake
Genco
Fatal Ascension
173
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Posted - 2012.12.20 09:44:00 -
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I heard that .... hmmmm 7 weeks ago .... too
IBS recruiting >>> http://ingloriousbs.wordpress.com -á>>> questionable ethics >>> tears >>> happy snakes>>>frog cocktails free?>>>????-áPublic ch.: Basterds on vacation
Hans resign from CSM! |
AndromacheDarkstar
The Forsworn Protectorate
Imperial Protectorate
311
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Posted - 2012.12.20 09:44:00 -
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You are more than welcome to put yourself through the utterly horrible ordeal of having to plex that many systems, i can personnaly think of many more things to do over christmas and the new year than orbit a button. Saying that it would be nice if you could push us back to a couple of systems at least, that way i wouldnt have to move 2-3 jumps for a fight i could just undock and be even lazier than i already am.
The Forsworn Protectorate-áAmarr Militia Corp Recruiting EU TZ PVP pilots now
Also Looking for EU PVP corps to join-áa growing-áAmarr-áFW-áalliance
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Wey'oun
Shadows Of The Federation
Drunk 'n' Disorderly
8
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Posted - 2012.12.20 11:47:00 -
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dont worry squiddies, we will still hotdrop you with Fac bs and triage between our plex drives :P |
Veshta Yoshida
PIE Inc.
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
407
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Posted - 2012.12.20 12:28:00 -
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Caldari/Gallente (and to a leser extent Minmatar/Amarr) have systematically abused any and all mechanics pertaining to FW since the light came on, with little to no response from CCP .. be it "fixing FW" or banning (you know its been appropriate on numerous occasions!).
What was the aim of this proposed course of action again?
I would say you are barking up the wrong tree, but it is a lamp post and you are a cat so not really applicable I reckon  |
Trendafil
Wolfsbrigade
Lost Obsession
8
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Posted - 2012.12.20 12:29:00 -
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R.I.P. Caldari FW? |
Marc Callan
Interstellar Steel
Templis Dragonaors
60
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Posted - 2012.12.20 12:49:00 -
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Now I get why the creator of Clear Skies chose the Gallente as his villains. |
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Eugene Kerner
TunDraGon
266
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Posted - 2012.12.20 13:48:00 -
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"Also, your boobs " -á
CCP Eterne, 2012
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X Gallentius
Justified Chaos
716
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Posted - 2012.12.20 16:08:00 -
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/me waiting at a POS somewhere near Nisuwa in my brand new Algos waiting to hot drop plexes in OMS.
This is gonna be fun! |
Christine Peeveepeeski
The Imperial Fedaykin
170
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Posted - 2012.12.20 16:47:00 -
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Awesome, can you hurry through the Caldari please! |
Rezig Huruta
Autocannons Anonymous
Late Night Alliance
87
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Posted - 2012.12.20 16:53:00 -
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Veshta Yoshida wrote:Caldari/Gallente (and to a leser extent Minmatar/Amarr) have systematically abused any and all mechanics pertaining to FW since the light came on
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This isn't even remotely unique to FW. Every system in the game gets abused to the max the instant someone figures out how to do it.
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SAJUK NIGARRA
Shadows Of The Federation
Drunk 'n' Disorderly
23
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Posted - 2012.12.20 17:24:00 -
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Christine Peeveepeeski wrote:Awesome, can you hurry through the Caldari please!
Flipped 5 systems in the last 24 hrs, that qualifies as a hurry |
Hidden Snake
Genco
Fatal Ascension
173
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Posted - 2012.12.20 17:29:00 -
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SAJUK NIGARRA wrote:Christine Peeveepeeski wrote:Awesome, can you hurry through the Caldari please! Flipped 5 systems in the last 24 hrs, that qualifies as a hurry
ofc with famville horde u flipped the systems without stations and resistance ... enjoy .... Spiritus Draconis can tell you stories about Ladistier and OMS :) .... I think Xgal promised some docking rights for Gallente too .... well months ago. 
And yes please come with ur hotdrops .... 
IBS recruiting >>> http://ingloriousbs.wordpress.com -á>>> questionable ethics >>> tears >>> happy snakes>>>frog cocktails free?>>>????-áPublic ch.: Basterds on vacation
Hans resign from CSM! |
jamesoverlord
Death or Glory inc.
The Bloody Ronin Syndicate
4
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Posted - 2012.12.20 17:34:00 -
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Wey'oun wrote:dont worry squiddies, we will still hotdrop you with Fac bs and triage between our plex drives :P
have you even learnt how to hot drop yet haha good luck with your crusade i cant wait to stamp on a few DnD heads hahaha |
Dan Carter Murray
256
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Posted - 2012.12.20 18:03:00 -
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SAJUK NIGARRA wrote:Seems there is a general consensus on these forums that FW is broken again. The factions that are on a downward spiral canGÇÖt recover, the farming is going rampant and generally everything is broken, imbalanced or biased.
With that in mind, we decided to put everyone out of their misery and accelerate the ongoing process of collapse that Faction Warfare is experiencing. Over the next months we intend to take all caldari systems, followed by helping minmatar to take all amarr systems. Most of the doctrines we will deploy will be tech 1, giving everyone a fair chance to counter us.
And when there are no more Caldari or Amarr systems left, maybe a new FW can be built, one more in tone with the rest of Eve, without emphasis on PVE and instanced PVP.
Y u no like plex fighting?
Y u no like killing 1 rat?
Y u want everyone to pvp like u with BS and carrier/dread?
Y u so mad?
Y u no understand problem isn't FW but with # of active players?
Y u no have plan to take eggelhende? (lols)
THIS IS GOLD FLEET BROTHER. WE DON'T NEED NO ******* THRASHERS/SFIs/CANES. |
Capitol One
Wolfsbrigade
Lost Obsession
116
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Posted - 2012.12.20 19:28:00 -
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Dan Carter Murray wrote:SAJUK NIGARRA wrote:Seems there is a general consensus on these forums that FW is broken again. The factions that are on a downward spiral canGÇÖt recover, the farming is going rampant and generally everything is broken, imbalanced or biased.
With that in mind, we decided to put everyone out of their misery and accelerate the ongoing process of collapse that Faction Warfare is experiencing. Over the next months we intend to take all caldari systems, followed by helping minmatar to take all amarr systems. Most of the doctrines we will deploy will be tech 1, giving everyone a fair chance to counter us.
And when there are no more Caldari or Amarr systems left, maybe a new FW can be built, one more in tone with the rest of Eve, without emphasis on PVE and instanced PVP.
Y u no like plex fighting? Y u no like killing 1 rat? Y u want everyone to pvp like u with BS and carrier/dread?Y u so mad? Y u no understand problem isn't FW but with # of active players? Y u no have plan to take eggelhende? (lols)
Quote: Most of the doctrines we will deploy will be tech 1, giving everyone a fair chance to counter us.
That seemed so clear to me 
Although it would be so cool if more people could fly more expensive and risky doctrines in lowsec! :) |
Tiffy Mezzier
Quantum Cats Syndicate
Samurai Pizza Cats
8
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Posted - 2012.12.20 19:41:00 -
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Dear Caldari and Amarr factions,
I think you're all missing the point here.
Instead of being upset over fake internet politics, take a look at the bigger picture here and how it affects EVE as well as FW in particular.
The end result of a push like this, will be to prove to CCP that the mechanics for FW need to be adjusted.
As well our effort would provide hard data, critical to identifying which mechanics need the hardest look.
So we openly encourage you Caldari, and you Amarrians, to fight us. As hard as you can, bring it on.
If you don't, then your not only doing a disservice to yourselves, but to CCP, and everyone else in FW.
-Cheers,
Tiff |
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senior moment
Minmatar Ship Construction Services
Ushra'Khan
1
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Posted - 2012.12.20 19:43:00 -
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Capitol One wrote:Dan Carter Murray wrote:SAJUK NIGARRA wrote:Seems there is a general consensus on these forums that FW is broken again. The factions that are on a downward spiral canGÇÖt recover, the farming is going rampant and generally everything is broken, imbalanced or biased.
With that in mind, we decided to put everyone out of their misery and accelerate the ongoing process of collapse that Faction Warfare is experiencing. Over the next months we intend to take all caldari systems, followed by helping minmatar to take all amarr systems. Most of the doctrines we will deploy will be tech 1, giving everyone a fair chance to counter us.
And when there are no more Caldari or Amarr systems left, maybe a new FW can be built, one more in tone with the rest of Eve, without emphasis on PVE and instanced PVP.
Y u no like plex fighting? Y u no like killing 1 rat? Y u want everyone to pvp like u with BS and carrier/dread?Y u so mad? Y u no understand problem isn't FW but with # of active players? Y u no have plan to take eggelhende? (lols) Quote: Most of the doctrines we will deploy will be tech 1, giving everyone a fair chance to counter us. That seemed so clear to me Although it would be so cool if more people could fly more expensive and risky doctrines in lowsec! :)
Wellll if you tell Dan to stop blowing up my SFI's I could fly them more often
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chatgris
Quantum Cats Syndicate
Samurai Pizza Cats
266
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Posted - 2012.12.20 20:05:00 -
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Dan Carter Murray wrote:Y u no understand problem isn't FW but with # of active players?
This is pretty true - FW was amazing with Nulli's brief entry. Constant warfare everywhere.
Having said that, I won't be participating to "show fw is broken", but I will be participating for the glory of the federation :)
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Dan Carter Murray
256
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Posted - 2012.12.20 20:46:00 -
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What mechanic can ccp implement to increase numbers (semi competent capsuleers) in amarr and caldri during both EU and US TZ?
More specifically, what can ccp implement to make amarr or caldari fw corps work together better?
What can ccp implement for the side who can only field 30 people against 100
Nothing needs to be fixed as these cannot be implemented especially with tier 1 providing 50% LP because who the **** wants to be the underdog fighting the blob (why the **** not 10% less LP btw). I mean minmatar were able to blue all e pirate corps in metro to help them conquer asset before iron blobside showed up to finish the blob takeover.
For amarr there is just a lack of EUTZ to compete with iron blobside numbers (not skill).
Also, nothing can be fixed unless somehow the underdog is rewarded for their risk, and no one likes to take risks in eve (exactly why people use links and have large alliances such as iron blobside).
Even if they take over everything ccp shouldn't change anything. I mean... Amarr will still hold eggelhende /facepalm (if it isn't abundantly clear by now, if you live in egg and are in FW then you are completely useless and should just drop FW since you do nothing for your militia)
THIS IS GOLD FLEET BROTHER. WE DON'T NEED NO ******* THRASHERS/SFIs/CANES. |
Caellach Marellus
Aideron Technologies
676
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Posted - 2012.12.20 20:59:00 -
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Mutnin wrote:but Caldari will never let you get a medal for taking every system.
The fact this sums up the mindset of some Caldari FW, that they're more concerned about a few pixels and some flavour text that highlighted a broken mechanic several years ago, than actually fixing mechanics now so they can get out of the T1 rut they're stuck in.
Enjoy your gaming.
http://northern-goblin.blogspot.com |
Dan Carter Murray
257
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Posted - 2012.12.20 23:29:00 -
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on second thought, and possibly more fun, gallente could troll the FW system after maybe taking all the caldari systems by swapping to amarr and taking over all of the minmatar space while iron oxide stays docked and cries since they will have to face equal numbers and get roflstomped
THIS IS GOLD FLEET BROTHER. WE DON'T NEED NO ******* THRASHERS/SFIs/CANES. |
Bienator II
madmen of the skies
1237
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Posted - 2012.12.20 23:37:00 -
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its in better shape as it ever was. just move the frelling flag away from the plex warpin. Its like spawning in WOT at the enemy base with your tank.
a eve-style bounty system https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=359105
You fail you fail you fail you fail you fail you fail you fail to jump because you are cloaked |
Crosi Wesdo
Shadows Of The Federation
Drunk 'n' Disorderly
389
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Posted - 2012.12.20 23:48:00 -
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jamesoverlord wrote:Wey'oun wrote:dont worry squiddies, we will still hotdrop you with Fac bs and triage between our plex drives :P have you even learnt how to hot drop yet haha good luck with your crusade i cant wait to stamp on a few DnD heads hahaha
Sorry lol, this coming from a guy whos idea of hotdropping consists of 2 dreads 5m30s before downtime lol
I think revelation is my second most used ship this month after thrasher lol |
Cat Casidy
Percussive Diplomacy
Samurai Pizza Cats
68
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Posted - 2012.12.21 00:18:00 -
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Hooray explosions! Or something, I'm fairly certain I'm still drunk from last night but am in no way qualified to assess that....or anything really. Yes.
SLAPD - Star Scientist, I science stars |
Sir Prometeus
State Protectorate
Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2012.12.21 01:51:00 -
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I support any measure to change the current FW system. Even being Caldari, if it changes the system for the better, I will support it.
My thoughs about it
- Something must be done to encourage T1 militias to fight. I still have to think what, because it's complicated
- Systems must be flipped faster to allow that a small gang (or even a solo player with a lot of time (a couple of hours maybe)) can change the sovereignty of a system. That will split the mega-blobs to fight in many places. That way we can have many small fights everywhere, which is the best of EVE.
- In addition to the last point. Maybe even allowing that the owner of the systems changes within the same day, not needing to wait for the DT
- Plexes must stay. They give the opportunity to have something similar to a fair fight.
- In general, missile boats (with some exceptions) suck. So maybe changing the weapons of the caldari faction ships to hybrids will help to see more caldari pilots using their own race's ships (I have to use an Algos, and I love it, but it doesn't make me feel inmersed in the lore) At least, the hookbill should be changed, because it's DPS is crap compared to the merlin (suposedly the hookbill is an upgrade of the merlin) |
Bienator II
madmen of the skies
1240
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Posted - 2012.12.21 03:57:00 -
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Crosi Wesdo wrote:Bienator II wrote:its in better shape as it ever was. just move the frelling flag away from the plex warpin. Its like spawning in WOT at the enemy base with your tank. I disagree. Me having to cover 50km in a brawling ship to get to warp in is not as easy as you starting to nano as soon as you see short scan light up. The current situation is better than it used to be, perhaps there is no perfect solution but you just using d-scan fixes the problem.
as somebody said in one of the many threads discussing this issue: less good fights, higher risk to die to blobs. A warpin is nothing else as a spawn point, other games try to fight spawn camping, eve motivates it by encouraging camping while doing pve.
The change took a lot away from plexes and solved nothing. (i can only guess that the reason why it was introduced was to fight pure pve plexer, but this is the wrong way to do it IMO, the right way would be to encourage fights by implementing a timer reset if you warp off)
a eve-style bounty system https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=359105
You fail you fail you fail you fail you fail you fail you fail to jump because you are cloaked |
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