Templis evaccing too :

Evac Time
From: Cory Braum
Sent: 2012.12.28 20:31
To: Templis Dragonaors,

Rakapas will fall before DT today we put a worthy defence but its not enough. we will be moving all assest to a non FW system Dantumi from there we can continue FW operations and work on alliance building, recrutment, training, and Fleet comps. all those with carriers need to volunteer to help more fitted ships the rest can be moved useing Black Frog logistics.

We will strike back

I tip my hat to Templis. They are the most hardcore FW sov grind pvpers that I know of on the Caldari side. It's like an alliance full of Damar Rocarians

Caldari should not give up IMO, remember when Minmatar had like 95% of all the systems. and now the Amarr have managed to get a lot of systems back and in the proces made shitloads of isk/LP. so Caldari, plz stop whining and start plexing.
At 1 point Caldari had like 75% of all the systems but they failed to flip the systems and make good use of it. If they would have flipped the systems before the last changes they would be on the winning side. they knew the changes were coming but did nothing with it. too bad, but thats not our fault.

I was out of game at that point, but I've heard repeatedly that Cal Militia guys didn't know of the change, until it happened. Honestly don't yea think if they knew in advance that they would have taken the systems or at least as many as possible?

Caldari factional warfare will NEVER recover


Caldari have always had a devotion to the blob, working together and blues. The Gallente and many successful entities have always subscribed to individualism and I'm refering to single entities and lack there of.

^Who let this guy off his leach? Is he new?

Thats another thing that permeates Caldari factional warfare. Delusion...

Not new, just dont normally post on the gal circle jerk posts...

This thread is like unpacking a christmas gift every night.

I could not agree more. But I just wanted to add. An Amazing Christmas Gift every night. Not just the ****** christmas gifts. The one you really want. The one that gives you the Excitement Boners.

Caldari factional warfare will NEVER recover

I had no doubt while I was in factional warfare that the current iteration of the Caldari millitia was the MOST POWERFUL it has ever been...

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Congrats for the taking of Rakapas.

It was a little dissapointing to see so many Caldari in system yet only the four of us defending the last plex. We saw what was coming in but didn't really have a lot of choice but to stay and try to defend it.

Don't get too comfortable we'll be wanting that one back.

I've actually had this discussion before with former members of the Caldari Militia who'd joined RvB when I was there. It's definitely an interesting point.

Someone brought up the question the other day if the biography for the factions on new player creation steer a certain type of player towards one faction or the other. So you have a Caldari player, that should they decide to join faction war, will often join the faction of their character's race over another. So you have all these players who chose Caldari because the bio appealed to them sharing similar mindsets and you get what you addressed in your post.

They actually DID flip well over a dozen or so systems before the patch. However given that gallente had not long since had their tier 5 cashout there were probably over 80 systems in a vulnerable state.

There is no way they were flipping those systems 2 days before the patch with no knowledge of the patch as the sensible plan would have been to wait until the last week before the expansion.

This is why I'm a critic of the current Sov System because it's pretty much just arena PVP where only a few key systems are fought over while the vast majority are just farmed back & forth.

You have never been a part of sovereignty warfare anyways. And you never log in. So... why do you care so much ?

So how would you expect them to flip 80 systems in two days?

Sov war was a joke before CCP started toying with it and it's a bigger joke now. The difference is, now you are forced into playing Sov War if you stay in FW. Did you ever consider that the reason I rarely log on, is because FW was largely the only thing that interested me in this game until CCP decided to fix it, by turning it into even a worse version of null sec.

Even after the flip all those systems were vulnerable for like 3 days because they were all so far into vuln.. but we didn't flip one system. Cal mil is an unorganized group that doesn't trust each other and trolls each other more then working together.

Which is why I left I have to thank gal for making the short comings glaringly obvious in cal mil and making people in cal mil show their true colors. I'm hoping I can find a corp that is organized, coordinated and works together whether it be in one of the other fw's or with some other corp.

I also wish you would leave the amarr warzone alone the amarrians are just getting on their feet and looks like they are having fairly equal and fun fights. If your campaign has proved anything it's that fw is not broken. You guys didn't win because of game mechanics or the plex system. You won because you were more organized and worked together. While we bickered, in fought and trolled eachother. We couldn't make any kind of adequate defense and you took raka in 2.5 days.

Impressive feat guys and my hats off to you I hope i can find pilots who fly the way you do. This game is gun and I can't imagine how fun it is when you play with people that work together and are organized.. Other then dce guys, 2 years in cal mil has only shown me the opposite of this.

Either way most of you guys are respectable and after this ordeal I have more respect for the gal mil and the way they handle themselves then I do for the cal mil. Hopefully that changes because until the general attitude of cal mil changes it will always suck to be a part of.