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Grey Stormshadow
Starwreck Industries
238
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Posted - 2011.10.07 19:38:00 -
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Insurance system will start working after it is changed to player driven contract based business model with plenty of features. Before that it could as well be removed from the game.
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Vanilla Twilight
Your Slit is Mine Federation
19
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Posted - 2011.10.07 19:40:00 -
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Dramaticus wrote:We are the 1%
there is no goons |

Weaselior
BUTTECORP INC Goonswarm Federation
407
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Posted - 2011.10.07 19:43:00 -
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Teamosil wrote:Weaselior wrote:insurance is a problem for the little people Then what is it you're crying about? You are overcome with sympathy for the plight of the hypothetical little suicide ganking corps?
that's me peeing on you and your ideas, not crying, tears aren't yellow |

Teamosil
Good Time Family Band Solution
8
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Posted - 2011.10.07 19:46:00 -
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Weaselior wrote:that's me peeing on you and your ideas, not crying, tears aren't yellow
Small corps generally aren't blowing up less expensive ships with poorly fitted more expensive ships in hi sec, so you don't seem to be making much of a point... Maybe you didn't read my post all the way through? |

Feligast
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
110
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Posted - 2011.10.07 19:47:00 -
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Removing insurance? Hell yes. Those mining barge pilots don't deserve it anyways. |

Takamori Maruyama
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
12
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Posted - 2011.10.07 19:48:00 -
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err wtf, how cancelling insurance would hurt someone rich? Its a guarantee so you don't have so much financial impact(i.e: people who care about this are people like me , poor), are you ******** or something?Hope you are just pulling the ******** troll card. I don't want to believe . The Codex Astartes guides us....*someone poke and whisper something* Oh wrong scenario...WHERE IS MY GIANT AQUARIUM?! |

Barakkus
733
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Posted - 2011.10.07 19:49:00 -
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I haven't bothered insuring any of my ships in a long time. |

Weaselior
BUTTECORP INC Goonswarm Federation
409
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Posted - 2011.10.07 19:50:00 -
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Teamosil wrote:Weaselior wrote:that's me peeing on you and your ideas, not crying, tears aren't yellow Small corps generally aren't blowing up less expensive ships with poorly fitted more expensive ships in hi sec, so you don't seem to be making much of a point... Maybe you didn't read my post all the way through? My argument was that in general insurance is fine as is. Maybe they need to close the loophole some seem to be exploiting, but that wouldn't affect small corps really. And it probably wouldn't really affect big corps either since they have plenty of money, but exploiting game mechanics like that just kind of breaks down the immersion of the game and whatnot even if the money doesn't matter to the person doing the exploiting.
oh right you are the moron who thought that winning a fight should be an exploit
you're plumbing new and exciting levels of pubbie retardation |

Weaselior
BUTTECORP INC Goonswarm Federation
409
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Posted - 2011.10.07 19:51:00 -
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"it should be an exploit for the other guy to win" |

Teamosil
Good Time Family Band Solution
8
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Posted - 2011.10.07 19:52:00 -
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Weaselior wrote:oh right you are the moron who thought that winning a fight should be an exploit
What the hell are you talking about? |

Weaselior
BUTTECORP INC Goonswarm Federation
409
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Posted - 2011.10.07 19:53:00 -
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well you don't even know what you're talking about I don't see how I'd explain what I'm talking about |

Vanilla Twilight
Your Slit is Mine Federation
19
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Posted - 2011.10.07 19:53:00 -
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Weaselior post just make my day... hahahaha. As i said: "if insurance dies goons gonna cry" |

Milamara
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2011.10.07 19:54:00 -
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Jita Alt666 wrote:Except that you jumped to the conclusion I do it for profit. Killing 6 month old BS pilots who are in their first ever BS and ground their way through 3 hours a day of level 3 missions for 2 and a half months to fly the big flash toy is way way more satisfying. Remove insurance and each one of these will be a probable quit eve for ever scenario. The wailing and gnashing of teeth will be fantastic. I didn't assume you'd do it for profit, I assumed you do it to grief, and my point is that it would be no change for mission runners either which way. You specifically stated their "best pve" fits, not their "worst tech 1 fits".
Either way, mission runners make consistently more ISK than any other activity in EVE, they will not mind the loss of a tech 1 fitted or a faction fitted whether there is insurance or not.
Not having insurance will hurt PvP types orders of magnitude more than PvE types.
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Feligast
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
110
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Posted - 2011.10.07 19:54:00 -
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You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.
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Takamori Maruyama
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
12
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Posted - 2011.10.07 19:55:00 -
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I'm going to have a stroke soon ... Jesus monkey Christ , people showing new levels of stupidity. The Codex Astartes guides us....*someone poke and whisper something* Oh wrong scenario...WHERE IS MY GIANT AQUARIUM?! |

Weaselior
BUTTECORP INC Goonswarm Federation
409
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Posted - 2011.10.07 19:56:00 -
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Vanilla Twilight wrote:Weaselior post just make my day... hahahaha. As i said: "if insurance dies goons gonna cry"
i suppose it is sort of pointless to insult someone of your intelligence with polysyllabic words |

Feligast
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
110
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Posted - 2011.10.07 19:56:00 -
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Vanilla Twilight wrote:Weaselior post just make my day... hahahaha. As i said: "if insurance dies goons gonna cry"
Aren't you just adorable.
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Weaselior
BUTTECORP INC Goonswarm Federation
409
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Posted - 2011.10.07 19:57:00 -
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you idea dumb
you dumb
but me like idea you idea make me more big
me like me more big
me stomp |

Vanilla Twilight
Your Slit is Mine Federation
19
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Posted - 2011.10.07 19:57:00 -
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Weaselior wrote:Vanilla Twilight wrote:Weaselior post just make my day... hahahaha. As i said: "if insurance dies goons gonna cry" i suppose it is sort of pointless to insult someone of your intelligence with polysyllabic words
oooh the Tears... love it so much |

Milamara
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2011.10.07 19:57:00 -
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Feligast wrote:Removing insurance? Hell yes. Those mining barge pilots don't deserve it anyways. Keep up the display of how little you know about EVE mechanics. Insurance only covers a tiny fraction of what a Hulk or Mack actually cost which is precisely why ganking those makes any sense in the first place. |

Takamori Maruyama
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
12
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Posted - 2011.10.07 19:58:00 -
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Weaselior wrote:you idea dumb
you dumb
me like idea you idea make me more big too much words , try something like...
Hurr or derp. The Codex Astartes guides us....*someone poke and whisper something* Oh wrong scenario...WHERE IS MY GIANT AQUARIUM?! |

Vanilla Twilight
Your Slit is Mine Federation
19
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Posted - 2011.10.07 19:58:00 -
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Feligast wrote:Vanilla Twilight wrote:Weaselior post just make my day... hahahaha. As i said: "if insurance dies goons gonna cry" Aren't you just adorable.
another goons for tear party =) |

Weaselior
BUTTECORP INC Goonswarm Federation
410
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Posted - 2011.10.07 19:58:00 -
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Milamara wrote:Feligast wrote:Removing insurance? Hell yes. Those mining barge pilots don't deserve it anyways. Keep up the display of how little you know about EVE mechanics. Insurance only covers a tiny fraction of what a Hulk or Mack actually cost which is precisely why ganking those makes any sense in the first place.
hulks and macks aren't mining barges
great display of what you know about eve mechanics |

Feligast
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
110
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Posted - 2011.10.07 19:59:00 -
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Vanilla Twilight wrote:Feligast wrote:Vanilla Twilight wrote:Weaselior post just make my day... hahahaha. As i said: "if insurance dies goons gonna cry" Aren't you just adorable. another goons for tear party =)
<3 |

Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
355
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Posted - 2011.10.07 20:02:00 -
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Someone once told me EVE is a dark, harsh, unforgiving place.
Well, it's certainly dark in places. One out of three isn't bad as marketing hype goes, I suppose.
Mr Epeen  If you can read this, you haven't blocked me yet. |

jitabotter
State War Academy Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2011.10.07 20:03:00 -
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Weaselior wrote:i suppose it is sort of pointless to insult someone of your intelligence with polysyllabic words
I hate to tell you, but you're a whole lot less bright than you think you are... You generally seem to be struggling with coming up with arguments to defend your position and you are clearly not grasping the arguments other people are making... You keep blurting out arguments that don't add up, then abandoning them when people debunk them. Not exactly the characteristics of the brain trust you seem to think of yourself as... |

Weaselior
BUTTECORP INC Goonswarm Federation
410
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Posted - 2011.10.07 20:04:00 -
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jitabotter wrote:Weaselior wrote:i suppose it is sort of pointless to insult someone of your intelligence with polysyllabic words I hate to tell you, but you're a whole lot less bright than you think you are... You generally seem to be struggling with coming up with arguments to defend your position and you are clearly not grasping the arguments other people are making... You keep blurting out arguments that don't add up, then abandoning them when people debunk them. Not exactly the characteristics of the brain trust you seem to think of yourself as...
ahahahahahahahahahahaha
go back to grade school child |

Weaselior
BUTTECORP INC Goonswarm Federation
410
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Posted - 2011.10.07 20:05:00 -
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this isn't a debate or discussion this is me laughing at your stupidity |

Weaselior
BUTTECORP INC Goonswarm Federation
410
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Posted - 2011.10.07 20:09:00 -
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if there ever comes a point when i need worthless pubbie jitabotters opinion on what the effect of a change to eve mechanics would be i will be too busy searching for a gun to end my life with the last shreads of my brain intact |

Teamosil
Good Time Family Band Solution
8
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Posted - 2011.10.07 20:10:00 -
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Feligast wrote:You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.
It's when a player is able to gain an advantage, or avoid a disadvantage, by using some quirk in the game mechanics in a way it wasn't intended to be used. IMO suicide ganking a cheaper ship in an expensive ship that you've fitted so that the insurance payout will basically alleviate the death penalty is an exploit. Frankly, I don't think it's a huge deal. My point in my post was that insurance should be left as is, except for maybe closing that loophole. If they think that needs to be closed, that would be fine by me, but I would oppose getting rid of insurance across the board, which is what this thread is about.. |
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