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Weaselior
BUTTECORP INC Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.10.07 20:11:00 -
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using the game in an intended way i do not like is an exploit, because i am too dumb to tie my own shoes |

jitabotter
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2011.10.07 20:12:00 -
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Weaselior wrote:if there ever comes a point when i need worthless pubbie jitabotters opinion on what the effect of a change to eve mechanics would be i will be too busy searching for a gun to end my life with the last shreads of my brain intact
I haven't given any opinions on any game mechanics. I'm giving an opinion on your conduct- you are making a fool of yourself over and over in thread after thread. |

Teamosil
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Posted - 2011.10.07 20:12:00 -
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Weaselior wrote:using the game in an intended way i do not like is an exploit, because i am too dumb to tie my own shoes
What the hell are you talking about? |

Weaselior
BUTTECORP INC Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.10.07 20:13:00 -
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suicide ganking with insurance is an exploit, as you can see from the bans ccp has handed down since worthless pubbies began complaining literally years ago
specifically, the complete lack of them, this makes sense to me because i am teamosil, champion of the lead paint eaters league |

Weaselior
BUTTECORP INC Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.10.07 20:14:00 -
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jitabotter wrote:Weaselior wrote:if there ever comes a point when i need worthless pubbie jitabotters opinion on what the effect of a change to eve mechanics would be i will be too busy searching for a gun to end my life with the last shreads of my brain intact I haven't given any opinions on any game mechanics. I'm giving an opinion on your conduct- you are making a fool of yourself over and over in thread after thread.
take my previous post, replace "what the effect of a change to eve mechanics would be" with "posting" |

Feligast
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.10.07 20:15:00 -
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Teamosil wrote:Feligast wrote:You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means. It's when a player is able to gain an advantage, or avoid a disadvantage, by using some quirk in the game mechanics in a way it wasn't intended to be used. IMO suicide ganking a cheaper ship in an expensive ship that you've fitted so that the insurance payout will basically alleviate the death penalty is an exploit. Frankly, I don't think it's a huge deal. My point in my post was that insurance should be left as is, except for maybe closing that loophole. If they think that needs to be closed, that would be fine by me, but I would oppose getting rid of insurance across the board, which is what this thread is about..
I was right. In the context of EVE: Online, exploit doesn't mean what you think it means.
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Teamosil
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Posted - 2011.10.07 20:20:00 -
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Weaselior wrote:suicide ganking with insurance is an exploit, as you can see from the bans ccp has handed down since worthless pubbies began complaining literally years ago
specifically, the complete lack of them, this makes sense to me because i am teamosil, champion of the lead paint eaters league
Kiddo, again, my post was about that I think we should keep insurance. If CCP wants to close the suicide ganking insurance loophole, that's fine by me, but that's really beside the point of the thread. In my opinion, it is an exploit. If CCP doesn't see it that way, that's fine by me too.
You really need to chill out. You seem to have some kind of insecurity around suicide ganking or something. You're fixating. |

Teamosil
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Posted - 2011.10.07 20:21:00 -
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Feligast wrote:I was right. In the context of EVE: Online, exploit doesn't mean what you think it means.
Ok... How would you define it? |

Dramaticus
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.10.07 20:22:00 -
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i love lamp *loses a mackinaw* |

jitabotter
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2011.10.07 20:22:00 -
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Weaselior wrote:[quote=jitabotter]take my previous post, replace "what the effect of a change to eve mechanics would be" with "posting"
Seriously man. You're just making yourself, and your corp, look silly. Have some dignity. Maybe focus on playing the game instead of trolling about it? |

Weaselior
BUTTECORP INC Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.10.07 20:23:00 -
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an exploit is a way you can break the rules of eve online
things you don't like are not exploits |

Weaselior
BUTTECORP INC Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.10.07 20:23:00 -
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jitabotter wrote:Weaselior wrote:take my previous post, replace "what the effect of a change to eve mechanics would be" with "posting" Seriously man. You're just making yourself, and your corp, look silly. Have some dignity. Maybe focus on playing the game instead of trolling about it?
oh no
a worthless pubbie might have a poor opinion of goonswarm
oh well I guess i'll go slaughter a miner and feast on his entrails to gain the respect of the greater eve community for my corporation and alliance |

Weaselior
BUTTECORP INC Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.10.07 20:25:00 -
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Teamosil wrote:Weaselior wrote:suicide ganking with insurance is an exploit, as you can see from the bans ccp has handed down since worthless pubbies began complaining literally years ago
specifically, the complete lack of them, this makes sense to me because i am teamosil, champion of the lead paint eaters league Kiddo, again, my post was about that I think we should keep insurance. If CCP wants to close the suicide ganking insurance loophole, that's fine by me, but that's really beside the point of the thread. In my opinion, it is an exploit. If CCP doesn't see it that way, that's fine by me too. You really need to chill out. You seem to have some kind of insecurity around suicide ganking or something. You're fixating.
normally i'd mock you but right now i would love to hear what an "insecurity around suicide ganking" would even be
like i would like a window into this crazy and am prepared to put mocking you on hold briefly to get it |

Teamosil
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Posted - 2011.10.07 20:25:00 -
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Weaselior wrote:an exploit is a way you can break the rules of eve online
things you don't like are not exploits
What rules? You just mean the TOS? If so, that definition certainly doesn't include everything CCP has determined to be an exploit or everything that the player community pretty much all agree to be exploits... |

Teamosil
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Posted - 2011.10.07 20:26:00 -
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Weaselior wrote:normally i'd mock you but right now i would love to hear what an "insecurity around suicide ganking" would even be
like i would like a window into this crazy and am prepared to put mocking you on hold briefly to get it
I dunno what it is about man. You're just acting very weird about the issue. Hyper sensitive. |

Dramaticus
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.10.07 20:28:00 -
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Teamosil wrote:Weaselior wrote:normally i'd mock you but right now i would love to hear what an "insecurity around suicide ganking" would even be
like i would like a window into this crazy and am prepared to put mocking you on hold briefly to get it I dunno what it is about man. You're just acting very weird about the issue. Hyper sensitive.
stop exploiting the subject |

Weaselior
BUTTECORP INC Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.10.07 20:29:00 -
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Teamosil wrote:Weaselior wrote:an exploit is a way you can break the rules of eve online
things you don't like are not exploits What rules? You just mean the TOS? If so, that definition certainly doesn't include everything CCP has determined to be an exploit or everything that the player community pretty much all agree to be exploits... a rule of eve online: if you shoot someone in highsec you lose your ship an exploit related to this rule: if you save your ship, you used an exploit
a rule of eve online: moon reactors consume input to create output an exploit related to this rule: a reactor creating ferrogel out of thin air is an exploit
thing that is not a rule in eve online: expensive ships should not be insured to suicide gank cheaper ships not an exploit: insuring expensive ships to suicide gank cheaper ships |

Weaselior
BUTTECORP INC Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.10.07 20:29:00 -
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Teamosil wrote:Weaselior wrote:normally i'd mock you but right now i would love to hear what an "insecurity around suicide ganking" would even be
like i would like a window into this crazy and am prepared to put mocking you on hold briefly to get it I dunno what it is about man. You're just acting very weird about the issue. Hyper sensitive.
go on, explain your thinking, i would like to hear more about an insecurity around suicide ganking
what is it |

Feligast
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.10.07 20:38:00 -
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Weaselior wrote:Teamosil wrote:Weaselior wrote:normally i'd mock you but right now i would love to hear what an "insecurity around suicide ganking" would even be
like i would like a window into this crazy and am prepared to put mocking you on hold briefly to get it I dunno what it is about man. You're just acting very weird about the issue. Hyper sensitive. go on, explain your thinking, i would like to hear more about an insecurity around suicide ganking what is it
:allears:
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Teamosil
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Posted - 2011.10.07 20:40:00 -
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Weaselior wrote:a rule of eve online: if you shoot someone in highsec you lose your ship an exploit related to this rule: if you save your ship, you used an exploit
a rule of eve online: moon reactors consume input to create output an exploit related to this rule: a reactor creating ferrogel out of thin air is an exploit
thing that is not a rule in eve online: expensive ships should not be insured to suicide gank cheaper ships not an exploit: insuring expensive ships to suicide gank cheaper ships
So by "the rules" you just means a list of things you have personally accepted as "how it is supposed to work". Well, not everybody agrees with you on all those. Some folks think that there is a "rule" that you should have to pay for ships you intentionally get blown up yourself. A suicide ganker is basically just scamming insurance to get a free ship so their ganking doesn't cost them anything. In some ways, it's the same thing as creating ferrogel out of thin air. It isn't like there is a right answer and a wrong answer about whether that is an exploit. There are no written rules about how this stuff is intended to work.
I don't have a big problem with suicide ganking. I like that you have to be on your toes even in hi sec. I got suicide ganked once a couple years ago and adapted so it never happened again. But IMO it's sullied by using the insurance system to evade the cost of that choice.
Dramaticus wrote:stop exploiting the subject
LOL. Nice. |

Feligast
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.10.07 20:42:00 -
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Teamosil wrote: In my opinion, it is an exploit. If CCP doesn't see it that way, that's fine by me too.
Oh, wait, I get it now. You're not stupid, you just think you are better at running this game than the people who designed, built, defined, and implement the game, and think they should change it just because in your hubris, you feel there's a "loophole" in an intended game mechanic.
Gotcha. You're just beyond arrogant, that's all.
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Weaselior
BUTTECORP INC Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.10.07 20:44:00 -
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yes there most definitely are rules and "you should pay for ships you get blown up yourself" is very definitely not one of those and the things I listed are definitely rules, these aren't debatable and you will get banned if you break the rules I listed and you will never be banned if you "break" the one that's not a rule
what is and is not an exploit can be a grey area in edge cases but you don't even understand the difference between how the game works and how you want it to work
and i am still waiting on the details of your internet psychiatric diagnosis, make with it |

Teamosil
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Posted - 2011.10.07 20:44:00 -
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Weaselior wrote:go on, explain your thinking, i would like to hear more about an insecurity around suicide ganking
what is it
All I know is that you're acting hyper sensitive and defensive about the topic. I made a post where that was just a minor note that although I think we should keep insurance as is, I wouldn't have a problem with CCP closing that loophole, and then you went off yelling out insults at everybody and talking about how much smarter you are than everybody and insisting that it wasn't your corp, it was other corps, benefiting from the loophole, and blah blah blah... Kind of a crazy way to conduct yourself, so something is up... |

Teamosil
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Posted - 2011.10.07 20:45:00 -
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Feligast wrote:Teamosil wrote: In my opinion, it is an exploit. If CCP doesn't see it that way, that's fine by me too. you just think you are better at running this game than the people who designed, built, defined, and implement the game
Did you not read the block you quoted? |

Weaselior
BUTTECORP INC Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.10.07 20:46:00 -
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Teamosil wrote:Weaselior wrote:go on, explain your thinking, i would like to hear more about an insecurity around suicide ganking
what is it All I know is that you're acting hyper sensitive and defensive about the topic. I made a post where that was just a minor note that although I think we should keep insurance as is, I wouldn't have a problem with CCP closing that loophole, and then you went off yelling out insults at everybody and talking about how much smarter you are than everybody and insisting that it wasn't your corp, it was other corps, benefiting from the loophole, and blah blah blah... Kind of a crazy way to conduct yourself, so something is up...
this is an inferior internet psychiatric diagnosis and i want my money back
also when you make an alt to sockpuppet yourself vary up your typing style you ellipsising idiot |

Weaselior
BUTTECORP INC Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.10.07 20:48:00 -
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you made fun of my completely moronic opinion you must be sensitive about the subject instead of someone who enjoys mocking idiot pubbies
mmm lead paint |

EvilweaselSA
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.10.07 20:50:00 -
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i, a completely different person, agree with weaselior in every way |

Teamosil
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Posted - 2011.10.07 20:50:00 -
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Weaselior wrote:this is an inferior internet psychiatric diagnosis and i want my money back
Fair enough. But you should really take a moment to examine what's going on there yourself... You're kind of blowing up at people for no reason...
Weaselior wrote:also when you make an alt to sockpuppet yourself vary up your typing style you ellipsising idiot
What are you talking about now? You keep accusing me of random things, then backing off... Like a page or two ago you said I was the poster who claimed that losing my ship is automatically an exploit, but it turned out you just made that up... Now you seem to be accusing me of being some other poster? Chill man. Just chill. |

Weaselior
BUTTECORP INC Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.10.07 20:52:00 -
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you'd think you'd drop the ellipsising after i pointed it out |

EvilweaselSA
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.10.07 20:53:00 -
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good point weaselior I completely agree |
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