Does this mean that walking in stations may yet become a reality? Because I'm that one remaining player who still really wants to see this grow into a significant part of the game. Yes, the implementation of it was badly botched in the past and rightly halted, but I hope we'll see it one day...

Im also realy like this to be as well.

Maby not in station but think walking in and old complex out in the space. Walk in and find an terminal to hack. or find some ancient relics and so on.

Exploration walks would be so dam cool.

sounds good any idea how many ships will have been rebalanced by the summer Alliance tournament?

We'll have that in place by the time we write the rules, but we're still a fair ways from that point atm.

JON LANDER I WANT YOU TO RUN FOR PRESIDENT OF SOMETHING!!!!!

Also, the CSM minutes will be published in the next 24-48 hours. We've been waiting on this dev blog.

Does this mean that walking in stations may yet become a reality? Because I'm that one remaining player who still really wants to see this grow into a significant part of the game. Yes, the implementation of it was badly botched in the past and rightly halted, but I hope we'll see it one day...

What i really want with the WIS thing is for the damn client to STOP randomly putting me into the captains quarters every once in a while when i dock.. Its really really annoying.

Talk is cheap.

I started playing eve in anticipation for WiS, and 2-3 years on it is nowhere to be seen, so forgive me if i don't have much faith in the design teams plans for the future.

As much as i love paying for CCP to polish their 10 year old game and fix things that could/should have been addressed years ago, i doubt that they will produce any new spaceship content that has as much potential to enrich the eve universe as avatar based gameplay... but i would love to be proven wrong.

I would like to see people walking in stations. I know its complicated but promise is a promise.

How much money would it cost ? Maybe we just should create special investment fund for WIS. Lovers...

.......few years later...... CCP : "Just look at this awesome (34th) WIS trailer"

It doesn't matter how much money you throw at them, a development team (and a development company) can only work on so many projects. And we, as a community, have decided that WiS takes a back seat to pretty much everything that is already being worked on as we post.

So not to tell you how to do your job, but what I've bolded here is already a very effective solution to the problem of "What do I do next?" Investing dev time to make alternatives available isn't unreasonable, certainly, but you could probably have a lot of impact on this just by further encouraging getting advice from senior players who have done, well, almost everything.

Have CCP publish spotlights with players that specialize in certain specific careers or live in certain types of environments. The problem, of course, is how to deliver this to the silent player who doesn't read the forums or engage all that much with the community. Answer: Put it in their CQs. Put it on the big screen, an index of "So you want to be an X" interviews.

I'm not talking about tutorials here, by the way. The tutorials you have are pretty good. This is more like advertising, for players who are well beyond the tutorials, to let them know what options are out there and maybe give them some indication of how to engage with it.

Oh, and absolutely use players for this rather than hackneyed dev-created characters. Ultimately, we're the ones who play the game, and if you want to advertise what it's like to do something as a player, you will never get a more accurate picture than from those players who do it every day.

We will involve the CSM in this process as one of the stakeholders, so make sure you use your representatives!

In the CSM minutes you used the word "Lurker" for solo carebears, some may call this a derogatory term, but I'm not gonna start a war over this :)

There is a reason why I largely freelance my time in eve too other fleets and not join an alliance (though been asked a few times)

And why in GW2 I am in the Angry Army (yes Joe's one) or in STO a large fleet (eve equivalant for a corp, not alliance), POTBS medium size Society, or 4 years ago during WoW in a UK 18+ guild, and have fun with others every week, but in eve sometimes weeks go by and not fleet with another (do miss those 9hr fleet ops with DJ Sarge :)

It's because Eve is a high risc game, where trust is paper thin and you keep your enemies on your "friends list".

Alot of Lurkers may just be players that are Introvert, Reader, Analyst or Builder, and if they are what you say they are "Lurkers" it's because this game at this state made them into that.


PS: you can find me hopefully in a WH corp next year after the POS revamp has been done, that or
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Oh almost forgot, If and I stretch the word IF I ever want to join a null sec alliance, where they have ship replacement programs, no npc grind for clone facilities, spam F1 on a doctrine fitted ship, no undock without logi support, and be quite on comms when an insane FC shouts at some ****** in the fleet, how is this better than "Lurking" ? my 2 cents

The outside world, still views this game as a sociopath's playground, and the former CSM chairperson confirming that believe, even though he apologized and CCP dealt punishment, how will you attract new players with just a few UI tweaks with Eve's reputation ? Haven't heard from David Reid since nov 2012, and that was so far only about Dust514 really.