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Shyzandra
EyEs.FR Dominatus Atrum Mortis
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Posted - 2013.01.17 16:43:00 -
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Post!
We really need a new POS system I feel a little betrayed... CCP made us a promise. And my mate and I were really waiting for this revamp, more than any other update... I dont want a new mining freg, or to be able to walk in the station... I dont care. I want a clean POS system, not the patchwork we've been dealing with since years... |
Implying Implications
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2013.01.17 16:44:00 -
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POSes are ****. Fix POSes. püåpüÉpüàn+P |
Asayanami Dei
Adhocracy Incorporated Adhocracy
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Posted - 2013.01.17 16:44:00 -
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Here's a reason to make new POS's:
You want to make features that connect DUST and EVE. Make new POS's that can, in some situations, be anchored at a planet, reinforcing a district on a planet. That way, simply put, DUST guys will have to get help from eve people to first kill the POS in order to attack the district, where dust guys can request orbital strikes from eve players again. booyah. fix POS system. www.wormholefundamentals.com Adhocracy Promo 2012 |
ARCHON79
High Voltage Industries Ash Alliance
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Posted - 2013.01.17 16:45:00 -
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FIX IT OR ELSE! |
Jint Hikaru
OffWorld Exploration Inc
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Posted - 2013.01.17 16:45:00 -
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Who can forget the old forum post 'Flogging the dead horse'
How old is that now? How long did it spend on the first page of the suggestions forum (without being stickied)
Players have been waiting and wanting a POS upgrade, including modular POSs for YEARS!
Jint Hikaru - Miner / Salvager / Explorer / SpaceBum In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move. |
Saffire Silynt
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2013.01.17 16:46:00 -
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POSs need revamp. period. |
Amenio
Enlightened Industries Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2013.01.17 16:46:00 -
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As a citizen of nullsec I find myself using POSes almost more then stations, even tho I don't manage them! I also let two accounts run out of subscription since I scrapped my idea of making a high sec industrial tower. Fix POS now! |
handige harrie
Hedion University Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.01.17 16:46:00 -
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Im one of the people doing nothing with POSses (except using them for JB use and getting to bridging titans) because reading and seeing how they work, i've just given up on managing one before even starting. Just thinking about how to set one up gave e enough of a headache to not even see them as feasible gameplay Baddest poster ever |
Hazell D'ark
Lead Farmers Kill It With Fire
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Posted - 2013.01.17 16:47:00 -
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The current POS system is just not enough to fulfilling the needs of wormhole player base. and regarding the "small portion " i want to say that wormholes of eve aren't as small as some people might believe and a secure ship hanger might help improve the number of players joining us. |
Feer Truelight
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Posted - 2013.01.17 16:47:00 -
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POSes need some love! Killed by Brothel: http://i.imgur.com/WyR1x.png BC skill changes coming this summer: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2442879#post2442879 |
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Ssoraszh Tzarszh
Tzarszh Capital Group Incorporated
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Posted - 2013.01.17 16:47:00 -
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The POS revamp is one of the things i am most looking forward too |
Sugar Kyle
The humbleless Crew Capital Punishment.
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Posted - 2013.01.17 16:47:00 -
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Some of my words on this:
CCP is moving forward and going back into themes. Player owned structures would be a beautiful theme. "Come join Eve, find a random chunk of space and make your home! But other people can take it so watch out!." My mind bubbles over at how exciting "Houses in Eve" would be to nonplayers. Those people that we want to become players? Video game houses are just that appealing to people.
You can't look at POS as they currently are. What they currently are is a stream lined product (stream lined by the players)due to their ineffective nature. It is not that people do not want POS and it is not that POS only effect a small part of the game (they do not but I will let the other POS people discuss those details) it is that the poor structure of POS creates the limitation itself. If you define a broken chair by the fact that it is broken instead of what it is when fixed then you will say all chairs are not what people are using to sit on because so few people are willing to balance on this broken one.
Why are there so many POS in high sec, anchored to every damn moon, if 'no one' uses them?
Tilde soaked words from something kinda like a pirate. |
Elizabeth Garneau
SOMER Blink Cognitive Development
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Posted - 2013.01.17 16:48:00 -
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I own and operate multiple POS structures for production, research, and storage. It is interesting to note that wormholes were agreed to be a very successful gameplay addition, with a large amount of the playerbase interacting with them. And yet, even though every single person who lives in a wormhole uses a POS, they (and all the others who use player owned structures) are considered to be a small portion of the population.
I understand that the code is probably tangled, and that it is a solution that has no easy answers in terms of implementation. But it would be a misrepresentation of your players to say that POSes do not impact a significant amount of us, and do not warrant the time to fix them. I am part of this "small" portion of the population, and I would like to see POS mechanics fixed. |
Buzzy Warstl
The Strontium Asylum
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Posted - 2013.01.17 16:48:00 -
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Most players outside highsec make use of POS's at one point or another, either POS's planted by someone else or their own. They are a core part of game play in dangerous space.
And that's with the current broken mechanics.
For the love of all that is gaming, fix them! http://www.mud.co.uk/richard/hcds.htm Richard Bartle: Players who suit MUDs |
Nemahs Aideron
DEEP-SPACE CO-OP LTD Exhale.
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Posted - 2013.01.17 16:48:00 -
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We need a POS revamp CCP, cmon. |
Sara Seraph
FaintHeart Industries
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Posted - 2013.01.17 16:48:00 -
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I have to plus one this item.
(will edit later after reading the threadnaught)
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SirNine
The Praxis Initiative Gentlemen's Agreement
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Posted - 2013.01.17 16:49:00 -
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While POSes are nowhere near as bad as they where say 2 years ago they still need more love. |
colera deldios
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Posted - 2013.01.17 16:49:00 -
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I wonder why is everyone bitching about this ? Has CCP made an official statement why they decided not to rework the POS system ?
I mean people hear NO and just start bitching without asking for a reason as to why. Most dont even realize what complex thing this is, do they have the resources for this, the people, the time and what they chose to do instead of POS Overhaul.
I'm dissapointed that they chose not to work on the POS system but at least before i ***** like a litle school girl i would like to know the reason behind. |
Dersen Lowery
Laurentson INC StructureDamage
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Posted - 2013.01.17 16:49:00 -
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Signed.
I'm a WH resident now, and the POS is really the only irritant. It's fidgety, it spams out Dscan, and doing the two-kilometer hop get to a hangar gets old fast.
If CCP brought them up to date, they would not only make a lot of Instigators happy, they'd probably see more people hanging POSes. |
Termy Rockling
EVE University Ivy League
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Posted - 2013.01.17 16:49:00 -
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Even if there wont be full POS overhaul theres lots smaller changes that many wiser than me people here will be listing. |
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Jimmy Katelo
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2013.01.17 16:49:00 -
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I thought about getting into POS reactions, but the system is so f***ed that I've given up on it. Hell, I would've used mine for industry, even. So much lost production unless they get fixed... |
DJ P0N-3
Table Flippendeavors
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Posted - 2013.01.17 16:50:00 -
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So how about the stuff that got shelved because of imminent POS revamp? Are we at least going to get some quality of life improvements? You know, things like...
- Refitting T3s - Roles that aren't terrible - Assigning roles/access per POS module/POS - Audit logging of SMAs/CHAs - Refining that isn't terrible - An interface that doesn't make me want to claw my eyes out - Some kind of skill-queue-esque thing for onlining things in sequence so you're not sitting there babysitting it forever - Fixing the wretched ammo bug when disassembling a POS - Accessing cans without having to drag them into your cargo hold (now especially important since we no longer have personal CHAs in carriers/Orcas)
I could go on. We all can. We know a lot of this stuff has been put off until "the great POS revamp" but if that's but a twinkle in some dev's eye (easily confused with the tears they weep upon beholding the code), then for god's sake throw us a bone. We are your enablers and instigators. |
Dasquirrel715
Universalis Imperium Tactical Narcotics Team
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Posted - 2013.01.17 16:51:00 -
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As someone who has watched a dozen people burn out over the last couple years because of the POS system, and as someone who uses them for reactions, I support a POS revamp. You may not gain subscriptions but you won't lose as many. |
Jake Warbird
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
2100
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Posted - 2013.01.17 16:51:00 -
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About time POS stood for the RIGHT thing instead of Piece Of #### |
Silk daShocka
Greasy Hair Club
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Posted - 2013.01.17 16:51:00 -
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colera deldios wrote:I wonder why is everyone bitching about this ? Has CCP made an official statement why they decided not to rework the POS system ?
I mean people hear NO and just start bitching without asking for a reason as to why. Most dont even realize what complex thing this is, do they have the resources for this, the people, the time and what they chose to do instead of POS Overhaul.
I'm dissapointed that they chose not to work on the POS system but at least before i ***** like a litle school girl i would like to know the reason behind.
The reason you say?
"POSes: I am a small portion of the community" |
Infinite Force
Hammer Of Light Covenant of the Phoenix Alliance
566
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Posted - 2013.01.17 16:52:00 -
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Signed.
I have been involved in ALL apsects of this game since 2005 (except for those really, really large fleet fights - never done those).
I was promised a POS revamp in 2013.
Broken promises again?!?!?!?
It's time to go on strike. HROLT CEO Live Free; Die Proud
Hammer Mineral Compression - The only way to go! |
Pitt POssum
Atztech Inc. Ixtab.
1
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Posted - 2013.01.17 16:52:00 -
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T2 invention is the most fun activity out there, almost as much as getting all assets stolen by a corp thief.
Signed |
Zurin Djehuti
EVE University Ivy League
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Posted - 2013.01.17 16:53:00 -
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My support is given.
The potential for new bases would be awesome. There are some other changes I'd like to see first, however this is definitely in need of a major overhaul. Or at least some manner of pain killer. As a possition for the CSM to support and unite on, I think this is a good rallying banner.
A bit of modularity to the POS system I feel would be rather beneficial, another means of customization and optimization that is, in my opinion, one of the highlights of EVE. |
Tuliera
Atztech Inc. Ixtab.
0
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Posted - 2013.01.17 16:53:00 -
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gas chain are kinda fun.... after 4 days of pain learning the mechanics with trial and error! |
Deadcode Analord
Shockwave Innovations Shockwave Sovereign Industries
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Posted - 2013.01.17 16:54:00 -
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As an instigator, as Unifex has coined it, I can tell you that an overhaul or even minor tweaks to the POS system would make my job considerably easier, leaving more time to engage my community in other less micro-management oriented tasks.
I understand you wish to deal with overarching tools which will help instigators and enablers, but please understand POS's should be right up at the top of that list.
Yes, the POS's are but a very small portion of the game. Yes, they are not very widely used when compared against the total playerbase.
There's one reason for this: to manage and understand them is worse than pulling teeth.
You are interested in what brings people together. The POS system does not do this presently. Your economic panel in the CSM minutes states, I quote:
Quote:Trebor: OK, slice it a different way. Would you prefer individual income or income that goes to a group first [and then is distributed by the group]?
Dr.EyjoG: Anything that would encourage group activity would be preferable in my mind. [But what that is a balancing question]. I would want to reward people for grouping together to earn income
For instance, a lot of the POS revamp work that needs to be done can fold into other areas of the game, like PI, other forms of industry etc. You could program a regional store for WH space so that *I DONT HAVE TO DO IT ON A SPREADSHEET* and pull from a secure hangar tab every single day. You will save the lives of enablers and instigators who are otherwise getting burnt out.
Work on PI and giving enablers tools to manage higher tier PI production in a line so members can work together to achieve higher processed goods. Corpies tend not to understand that we can make considerably more money if we do that in some instances, and from a management perspective with the current WH POS mechanics this is impossible to organize/monitor/initiate without far too much micromanagement.
tl;dr If you give those of us that use POS's back some of the time we waste trying to decode and understand the archaic language and idiosyncratic quirks to the system, [and the time we waste having to educate others] you will see the results multiply exponentially. |
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