The sad thing is you could do this yourself, in game, but you're lobbying to have CCP do the work for you.

We need reasons to fight that outweigh the terrible sov system...

I was kicked out of my space and am very bitter about it so please CCP leave the sov system in a horrible state.

I fixed that for you.

I fixed that for you.

no, i didn't. because i haven't provided any points that deal with a no bottleneck force projection.

there's also no repercussion to steamrolling a smaller entity even with a bottleneck, as i pointed out several damn times. (edit: oh, aside from maybe the whole 0.0 becoming more risk averse which i pointed out several posts ago)

now, your lack of arguments just prove to every one force projection needing a bottle neck is complete **** because it doesn't solve anything.

who cares if something different would happen, stop changing the subject. the subject is this bottleneck should help small entities. it does NOT. prove it does. stop wasting every one's time. (side note, i didn't mention sov timers once in this "force projection" crap)

prove it, or we can just call your idea crap and ******** because it doesn't do what you said it would do.

in closing: a time bottleneck on force projection hurts the little guy and/or makes 0.0 more risk averse. your idea is ba.

You proved a time bottle neck on force projection would help the little guys last page by stating you would send 45 capitals instead of EVERYTHING to deal with one little guy. As you stated earlier, you could send a massive blob to deal with one little guy, but it would open up the rest of your territory for other little guys to exploit.

Why do you keep shoving your head into the sand like an Ostrich to this?

I think he'll get his wish, sov will remain terrible for quite some time.

Boat, of course, is also happy with structure-based conflicts.

My friend, I cannot be bitter...cause I was not with Nulli at the time. Also, why should I be bitter in seeying my allliance loose its space. Disapointed yes...but bitter no.

This is a game...not my life.

actually let me make it easy for you. finish this sentence "adding a cooldown to jump drives help the little guys because...."

Yeah, let's ignore the rest of his post.

they've been doing it since they brought up the terrible idea of jump drives having a cooldown (at least, i think that's the point they were trying to bring up, they were rather vague about it.)

...instead of having to fight everyone in the enemy coalition, they would only have to fight those close by. If for some reason the enemy coalition decided to send EVERYONE, they would leave the rest of their territory open to be invaded by all the other 'little guys' near the other parts of the enemy coalition. Which would result in massive loss of territory for the 'big guy'. Also to address your, "We will just have capitals staged EVERYWHERE to avoid the time bottleneck on power projection!" All I can inform you is that traveling via gates takes much, much longer than using jump drives. So the time bottleneck is still there.

EDIT: Funny how you are saying I can't use the tacticl implication of a 3rd party that would threated a large coalitions space if they are on the other side of space dealing with 'the little guy'.

So you sent your blob to fight a little guy and lost a ton of space to the other two dozen little guys who took advantage of you being gone.

That one little guy was stepped on just the same as he is under current mechanics. The big difference in the larger picture is a lot of other little guys were able to make you pay for it. Thus, it helped out a lot of the little guys. I keep pointing this out time and time again, yet you guys keep pretending it was never said.

So you sent your blob to fight a little guy and lost a ton of space to the other two dozen little guys who took advantage of you being gone.

That one little guy was stepped on just the same as he is under current mechanics. The big difference in the larger picture is a lot of other little guys were able to make you pay for it. Thus, it helped out a lot of the little guys. I keep pointing this out time and time again, yet you guys keep pretending it was never said.

But that won't happen, because of timers.
You can't just get rid of timers without replacing it with something with similar functionality, as much as you seem to think that's a great idea.

But that won't happen, because of timers.
You can't just get rid of timers without replacing it with something with similar functionality, as much as you seem to think that's a great idea.

And once again you guys keep citing broken mechanics in the current sov system. Wow, just wow.

To elaborate on this should timers be removed it would require organizations to grow even bigger than they already are to defend their space because now they require enough active people that they can defend everything 23/7 in all TZs. So basically that means only the CFC and HBC would remain, what a good idea Marlona.

The point of timers are so that the defender gets a chance to fight, completely ignoring the defender would make sov even worse than it already is.

No you goon.

Following your logic, movement should instantaneous and that would make blobs obsolete.

Yeah right !!!!

Uh, what? No...

So the one thing that makes it possible for people to defend their structures on their own time instead of waking up to find all their space destroyed without a fight is a broken mechanic?
Come on now.

Usage of the system should determine who has sov, not who was first to stab some millions and millions of hit points flag in space and walk away.

Hold on. I thought you were the OP declaring that structure grinding and the current sov system is terrible. Now you are defending it?

So confusing...

Usage of the system should determine who has sov, not who was first to stab some millions and millions of hit points flag in space and walk away.

Hold on. I thought you were the OP declaring that structure grinding and the current sov system is terrible. Now you are defending it?

So confusing...

Lol.. so basically this whole thread has boiled down to a whine about boring "sov mechanics", then a constant stream of comments saying how bad changes to the "broken sov mechanics" would be for the game and turns into defending the very thing that the whine was started about (btw, which is it guys, structure grinding a horrible plague or a necessary mechanic?). Im beginning to think the null powers that be really don't want a change, just to whine and bring attention to their new RvB 0.0 content which would otherwise get little to no attention