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Autumnleaves
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Posted - 2005.07.06 19:18:00 -
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Edited by: Autumnleaves on 06/07/2005 19:18:09
 Originally by: Drilla
I want all level 4 agents moved to 0.0 space.
Anything else is just carebearish.
I want pvp to be consensual with a flag so I could de-flag, goto 0.0 to run those level 4's without getting blowed up, etc.
Telling me I have to risk 6 months of work on implants and ships to go do level 4's so some GRIEFER can get 5 seconds of joy is pure BS.
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Winterblink
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Posted - 2005.07.06 19:18:00 -
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Originally by: Lunartikk
He asked people not to reply if they were happy with the changes
Thus making making the petition pure crap, considering there's no way to tell what percentage of your player base is signing the petition. Let me break it down.
If 1000 people sign it, that's 1000 yeas. 1000/x = petition thrown in shredder.
If 1000 people vote yes and 500 people vote no, you can say the majority agree with the petition and therefore maybe it's worth something other than landfill material.
This is why voting is used to determine things in the real world (remember what that world's like?) instead of petitions.
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Cartiff
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Posted - 2005.07.06 19:23:00 -
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I did a lev4 last night, me in a torp raven, my mate in a harpy, no probs at all.
Takes a few more torps to kill a cruiser (Oh no!!!), BS's die like usual, and i just let my mate blow the frigs away.
I have no problems with the patch at all, and if it lets my crow survive a few cruise in PVP, then hell yea. I'm up for it.
Lev4's are still a piece of ****, jsut get a mate in a support ship.
Cartiff, CEO
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NBSI 4TW
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ThiefKiller2
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Posted - 2005.07.06 19:24:00 -
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I am sick of people saying stop whining about missiles. Like the must just go around the fourms looking to say stop whining when they are actually whinning about people whinning
Thats all
Signed
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Bozse
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Posted - 2005.07.06 19:25:00 -
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Here u go.
btw im a raven pilot and see no problems with the changes.
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Selim
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Posted - 2005.07.06 19:26:00 -
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Originally by: DrunkenOne
I think missiles should be nerfed even more. As there is only 1 non alt in this thread (and alts opinions dont count), and my vote cancels out the 1st guy, this thread now has no supporters.
No way, CCP's version of a nerf is to slightly reduce one overpowered aspect of the object in question, while massively increasing the overpoweredness of the other aspects just to appease all the whiners.
I think missiles should be 'boosted' instead, maybe then they wont be so overpowered.
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Winterblink
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Posted - 2005.07.06 19:27:00 -
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Originally by: Bozse
Here u go.
btw im a raven pilot and see no problems with the changes.
HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHA!!!
That's beautiful!
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Adonis 4174
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Posted - 2005.07.06 19:41:00 -
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I am a Caldari
I do not like the missile nerf.
Neither do I like the fact that every day, when I wake up, I don't have a gold-plated waiter-droid serving me breakfast in bed.
I got over it, because I am a Caldari. We adapt, or we stack shelves our whole lives. If you want to live a different life then try running to the Ammar.
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Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2005.07.06 19:43:00 -
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None of you have even trained the necessary new skills to level 3 yet, have you?
So why are you complaining about something most of you haven't had any eperience with yet?
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JoCool
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Posted - 2005.07.06 19:50:00 -
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Raven is for PROs
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Alerce
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Posted - 2005.07.06 19:53:00 -
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people can calculate even when learning new skills, for a lot of setups, the difference between in the old setup 3 heavy launchers and in new setup 1 heavy launcher and 2 assault launchers due to grid increases, still means, the new setup doesnt have enough range effectivity compared to the old one.
I dont care about the damage reduction in a lot of cases, i dont care about the powergrid really, but the problem is if you fit smaller launchers, you dont have enough range, not even when you train the new skills to the maximum.
And range is more important then dps in a lot of situations. What you cant hit, you dont do damage to.
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Shadowbreed2
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Posted - 2005.07.06 19:53:00 -
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I am caldari
The missile CHANGES are perfect, i like them.
Learn to use a raven and you won't mind either.
Otherwise fly a different ship
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DjDangle
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Posted - 2005.07.06 19:55:00 -
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Lol, faaaaar too many numpties on this site.
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Oi Poloi
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Posted - 2005.07.06 19:55:00 -
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Originally by: DjDangle
Lol, faaaaar too many numpties on this site.
mature statements ftw
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Gamer4liff
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Posted - 2005.07.06 20:01:00 -
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signed.
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Khargos
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Posted - 2005.07.06 20:02:00 -
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signed,
stop killing off things for the sake of missions plz ccp, if you dont want people running lvl 4's solo then you shouldntve put lvl 4s in to begen with as people will allways find a way.
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X'Alor
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Posted - 2005.07.06 20:08:00 -
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Not signed.
I been a "DIEHARD" mission runner from start for over 2 years now. I still wish I could get a total number of missions run since I started.
Tho I may not agree with all the missle changes and how it was implemented, I must say this change gives the utmost purpose for small ships in high lvl missions.
It gives our newer players a reason to stay in their little ships and maximize their engineering skills, repairing skills, and gun/missle skills. That way when they get into their BS's they are thoroughly skilled in functions and controls and familiar with how things work making them much more skilled BS pilots when they so decide to become one.
It gives small ships and newer players a purpose again.
Especially in the higher lvl PvE mission realm.
As long as they do not shoot first under current mechanics are pretty much totally safe in their small ships now.
weather I totally agree or not, this patch opens up so many more options for grouped lvl 4 missions regardless if the solo mission raven is the uber or not.
Lvl 4's "were initially" ment to be group orientated(even if they changed that idea now) and this patch does improve on just that.
Thank you CCP for giving small ship pilots purpose in lvl 4's. Even if you did mess with this 2 year old char from enjoying his game from normal ....... for two weeks. 
I can live with that after 2 years.
Assault frig cover pilots for lvl 4 raven win buttons. You guys are gonna have a blast ..... literally.
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implanted
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Posted - 2005.07.06 20:19:00 -
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the nerf is going to effect the fun me and my bro had in our ravens and makes you wonder "why the hell have i been training all this time on missiles and bs when i might has well have trained my frig to the max"!
but we loved goin in wiv 2 ravens as we have limited time online so it would be hard to join the bigger corps .we will have to train like f*** to get anywhere near where we used to be.
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VonKaplanek III
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Posted - 2005.07.06 20:22:00 -
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Edited by: VonKaplanek III on 06/07/2005 20:23:46
Edited by: VonKaplanek III on 06/07/2005 20:23:32
3 words.........
Adapt or Die...
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Grimpak
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Posted - 2005.07.06 20:28:00 -
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Originally by: JoCool
Raven is for PROs
and I say "FINALLY!" to that
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Kelcen
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Posted - 2005.07.06 20:29:00 -
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im not a man of big words so. signed.
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Cornelius Murphy
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Posted - 2005.07.06 20:37:00 -
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I will reserve my judgment until I have trained the new skills. If it means having to EARN the right to spam the bejaysus out of npc's, great, after all turret users have to!
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Karazaan
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Posted - 2005.07.06 20:40:00 -
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Originally by: Bozse
Here u go.
btw im a raven pilot and see no problems with the changes.
Does concord register that as an act of agression if used on another ship?
Being an highslot and all... |
Altar Mei
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Posted - 2005.07.06 20:42:00 -
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I find it hard to believe that after only two days people have been able to properly test all setups for missiles.
Wait, wait, wait, let's just put missiles back to they way they were. Oh, and don't foregt megapulses, ew, and projs on an apoc.... second thought lets just roll every thing back to the original build and we can all spend our time mining just to get into a cruiser!
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Cpt Rhet
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Posted - 2005.07.06 20:42:00 -
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Raven pilot here, my damage and rof is hurt but whatever. I dont care as long as t2 launchers are sold by npcs...which I dont know yet...I hope they are, if not that is TOTAL ******* bull**** |
marioman
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Posted - 2005.07.06 20:42:00 -
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All i have to say is: Harpy tanking 6 Scorps and 1 Raven in 1 group, solo lvl 4s in Harpys 4tw!
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Emiug
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Posted - 2005.07.06 20:48:00 -
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what the hell,
signed
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Akaviri
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Posted - 2005.07.06 20:50:00 -
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As a Raven pilot, I disagree with this petition. The missle changes should stay.
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Bilfiz
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Posted - 2005.07.06 20:50:00 -
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The missle nerf sucks yes we know it an have to deal with it. but for most part the missle skills and missle flight times are way out of LINE and need to be fixed. my real beef is the new flight times holy cow 2 sec for light missles is just useless. and the rate of fire needs to change small turrets ROF is 3 sec ok missle's should be also close to their turret counter parts say 6 or 7 base with skills get it down to 3 for light and rockets and the same for other missle dbl rate of fire of guns would be ok after u max your skills. well the new power gird of launchers is just flat out a dumb idea.
"WHY" more PG does not make sence then it harder for new players or we will see none. just my thoughts looks like back to gun boats an time to toss a sheet over the old raven ( for atleast a month for skill traing)
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Sorja
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Posted - 2005.07.06 20:50:00 -
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Originally by: Imran
Honestly, the guy said he spent his whole eve life doing missles...THERE WERE 5 FKN SKILLS. Just because you actually have to put time into somthing to be effective you are whining and *****ing.
seriously, stfu and adapt.
STFU yourself Immy and fly your Deimos happily.
You SHOULD know Caldari pilots do not only train missiles since you see ME flying gunships and EW ships because Caldari ships SUCKED BALLS.
How do you explain experienced Caldari pilots like Darko or Buddrow fly Amarr if the Raven was so powerful?
How do you explain the corp asks me to fly covert ops, harpy or interceptor because nobody wants me in a pathetic raven?
How do you explain we slaughtered countless ravens/scorpions on every frig squad for monthes with minimal if not no losses it it was so overpowered?
Jump in your pink bunny barbie car and drive away with the happy flamers crew.
On topic: this post is pointless.
Cancel your subscriptions, or simply train the skills while not playing (a major pain since there's not even a queue training feature in a 2 years old game) and see in a while if it's still worth playing if you can't fly anything else but Caldari.
But there's no point trying to voice opinions on these boards at the moment, people are too happy a race is nerfed because it benefits them or because they were too pathetic pilots to solo level 4 missions in other races battleships.
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