I'm confused as to how being able to wardec people in an NPC corp equates to breaking nullsec corps.
Or do you happen to know the names of every alt they have and know how this cane be used without such a system being used solely to grief newbies.

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Or maybe wardec a specific region, constellation, or system. Or maybe sort it by majority play time, or just everyone in systems X,Y,Z, and G between the times of 0300 and 0700.

I remember reading something about the cost for wardecs being based on the number of targets that you would get from the dec. It seems like it would be easy enough to calculate target numbers for non-corp wardecs and come up with the same kind of price scheme.

Wardeccing a region of space would effectively turn it into a nulsec zone, and that's a terribly bad idea because it would break the fundamental workings of EvE. It's an idea that has been shot down countless times because of the issues it poses.

A jump freighter in an NPC corp can operate 99.99% risk free.

Oh, well in that case, next time I go through Rancer, I should pay concord to turn that into high security space for a day

You know, in a war, the military likes to target enemy infrastructure. Like airfields, bridges, roads, ports and bridges.

It's much easier and more effective to target the static locations, like bridges, than trying to catch the machines doing the transporting. Also less prone to subterfuge.

I watched a movie once, called "A bridge too far". Now I don't want to jump to any conclusions; but I think you might find it somewhat informative in regards to your issue.

You know, in a war, the military likes to target enemy infrastructure. Like airfields, bridges, roads, ports and bridges.

It's much easier and more effective to target the static locations, like bridges, than trying to catch the machines doing the transporting. Also less prone to subterfuge.

I watched a movie once, called "A bridge too far". Now I don't want to jump to any conclusions; but I think you might find it somewhat informative in regards to your issue.

We already have structure grinding and that will never go away entirely. What we need is a more options. There is also an underlying point: should anyone be immune to pvp in Eve?

And those wardecs could be limited to a certain % of empire space. So if you don't want to fly in them it would be easy enough to just move out of the systems in question. To me it just seems like would make Eve much more dynamic. And more sinks are always good!

Right now everything seems so static and fixed. Highsec grinds along without the need to interact with the game and Null is stuck at place where the biggest dogs can control how big any new dogs get.

While the US may consider corporations people, they lack anatomical features that would result in a mound of soft flesh laced heavily with nerves from which I may go and apply sufficient pressure to cause hematoma.
Therefore I suggest that all such grouping of people should be made to have critical must protect infrastructure that they must actively defend.
The loss of said infrastructure should result in the immediate disbandment of the corporation and forfeiture of any all assets in but not limited to corporation hangars within stations, POSes, market orders on their behalf, S&I jobs and contributory sovereignty.
This will at once enable the so called golden BB effect as done by smaller corporations, but it will also force the wars of aggression so necessary to the proper and right functioning of the nullsec ecosystem.
As such I move that the health for sov structures should be reduced to 10% of current values and be made to require constant maintenance starting at an approximate ISK value of 50 million per month and scaling on an exponential curve based on the activities of its members as defined by their Crest.

We already have structure grinding and that will never go away entirely. What we need is a more options. There is also an underlying point: should anyone be immune to pvp in Eve?

I can see more harm than good coming from this. That's all before you get into pissing off the playerbase and reducing the population of EvE.

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We don't have a PvP immunity now.
There's just a cost factor that discourages unsanctioned PvP in certain areas.

We already have structure grinding and that will never go away entirely. What we need is a more options. There is also an underlying point: should anyone be immune to pvp in Eve?

translation "i want to gank freighter pilots, in high sec, without penalty"

I'd like to hear an explanation for why an act of premeditated murder constitutes a war or why a galactic citizenry would put up with a corrupt police state that doesn't protect them.

Because the cost for putting up with corruption is far less than the cost of removing it. Same as RL.

As for murder, well, in the case of pod pilots there is no such thing. And I guess non-pod pilots just don't matter enough for anyone to care.

Paying 25-50m a week to grief one newbie would be incredibly stupid.

The idea falls flat on it's face because it lacks any consideration for the reality of the situation. Though you may be able to effectively attack the logistics of a large alliance, smaller ones will be much easier to rout in this manner, and can less afford losing freighters in the same way a large alliance can.

It also overlooks the fact that shipping from Jita to null only happens because it is convenient - as soon as you remove that, then the same needs to be done in your base of operations. Who then is better able to achieve this, the small alliance with 2 or 3 easily camped stations, or a large sprawling alliance with many, many more?

[effectively] Immune logistics is one of the few game mechanic-quirks that keep small entities in nullsec at all.

And yet people will do it for the lols.

We already have structure grinding and that will never go away entirely. What we need is a more options. There is also an underlying point: should anyone be immune to pvp in Eve?

Station traders are immune to wardec regardless of they are in NPC corps or not because they never leave the station.

hey op, you can gank freighters of all kinds in highsec, it's called suicide ganking, figure it out.

Sovereignty is pretty expensive to hold now; https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Sovereignty_guide And as for EHP they go down easy enough considering the DPS that can be applied. Check out dotlan, they are changing hands every day.

I do think that sovereignty out in null is too powerful as far as protecting your resource extraction. It would be great if there was a way to steal moon goo or to hanger up out there so that reds could rat and plex in enemy space.

A jump freighter in an NPC corp can operate 99.99% risk free.

Expensive
I can do 10 systems plex and still have pvp money easily and all I do is manufacture.
So yeah 180 mil a month per system
Really needs to be more especially as the alliance grows.
180 mil a month a player a system is chump change in null.
Maybe 1.8 billion would be better as then you would need a few people working on it and it would still allow small people while forcing larger groups to choose more (system cost would outstrip player supply far more readily thus making for a soft cap)

The point I'm making is that individuals aren't wartargets, but rather the corporation or alliance they're a member of is and if a corpration attacks an individual then that's really a hit. maybe there should be a mechanic for that but 50M for an entire alliance to have free kill rights on a character for a week is quite a bargain.

besides, this is just another permutation of the wardeccing npc corps fixing the game delusion. all it will accomplish is causing everyone to dock up the moment they see a wartarget in system, just like people in null do when they see an unalligned pilot in local.

then the people agitating for this will shut up because no immediate in local leaves them at risk from stealth bombers.

That require effort wich is beyond many people's limit...

I go back and forth with the NPC corp thing. Maybe a corp sales tax on all transactions for members of one; 10% right off the top of every purchase, sale, and bounty to discourage traders from staying NPC. And limited docking space, and no advanced ships, to discourage mission runners and hauler alts.

So people will join one man corps and leave said corps when they are wardecced to join new corps they just created to avoid prior wardec.

Problem solved.

Your inability to defend yourself has to do with you not being willing to organize into groups or learn to fight. A greater threat demands a greater defense, sure, but at what point does that defense stop being CCPs responsibility and start being yours?

How long have you been playing Vexen?

Excellent. Welcome to Eve and grats on sticking it out. I think the vast majority of people in your shoes don't last and never figure it out.

It's not easy to unseat a powerful alliance. More often then not, large alliances are destroyed from within, as opposed to any military action by their enemies. With their large incomes, they can lose a titan on a Monday, and have it replaced on Tuesday.

Here lies the problem; prolonged military campaigns are completely ineffective in upsetting the status quo. Sure, we still have the ability to infiltrate and destroy from within, but that's not so difficult to protect against. More importantly, that should not be the only option. INR, logistics are everything, and any disruption wreaks havoc. This is a problem Alliances are almost entirely immune to in Eve.

Not only has logistics in Eve have been simplified over time, there aren't any tools available to us to disrupt them altogether. A jump freighter in an NPC corp can operate 99.99% risk free. So no matter how many titans and motherships you blow up, big power blocks have an uninterpretable faucet of isk they can replace them with.

No one should be able to hide in an NPC corp. The solution is simple, we should be able to wardeck individuals in an NPC corp. They could still join or form player corporations, but the wardeck will follow them. This introduces a new level of complexity that we sorely need.

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Why should big alliances have to pay more to hold sov?

I do think that holding Sov on empty / underused systems could be looked at. Maybe lower resource extraction would lead to vulnerability and lower EHP of the TCU. Something to make it a pain to hold a bunch of space for nothing more than the moongoo or whatever is king.

Thats not a bad idea, big corps with lots of land would be encouraged to recruit settlers to work those systems in order to keep the TCU. Then rather than just CONCORD highsec players would have the option of getting protection from a big alliance.

Suicide Gank them as they Jump into HS. As your goal is simply to hurt the big alliance, hauling unprofitable-to-gank loads won't keep them safe.

I tend to agree with RubyPorto, but just another prespective and perhaps not a very good one but would a mechanism that:
a: Extended the jump time when using CynoGÇÖs for Jump Freighters;
b: Allowed for the destruction of CynoGÇÖs while they are active; and
c: If a Cyno is destroyed while a JF is still in warp the JF is lost in Warp, effectively destroyed.
It is a bit of work but it would make a everything a Tad more interesting.

a: There's a fair delay between pressing jump and landing next to the cyno.
b: They can be, just kill the noobship.
c: If it is destroyed, the JF lands in a random spot in system. Easy prey for someone prepared with probes.

I'd still contend that there may be a benefit in extending the delay [sorry I've never noticed that much delay when jumping] and if the JF is in warp it should be either destroyed or at the least badly enough damaged to be easily gankable in a Concord system.

I agree that they should still need to scan the JF down if its not destroyed, but if it suffers damage the destruction becomes manageable for a small gang.

It's not easy to unseat a powerful alliance. More often then not, large alliances are destroyed from within, as opposed to any military action by their enemies. With their large incomes, they can lose a titan on a Monday, and have it replaced on Monday.
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Ah, I see. You've never run a JF. Because if you had, you'd know that [i]you can't cyno into HS

Correct Ruby not a JF Pilot, just Carrier I'm afraid.

I'm confused here. a JF cannot cyno into HS either. nothing jump capable can. Cynos cannot be lit in hisec. Though JFs and grandfathered caps still in hisec can lock onto cynos lit in low/null and jump FROM hisec. Possibly this is what you mean?

Tell us more about how easy it is to replace titans with jump freighters.

Simpler solution would be to make it so NPC corp members can not light or bridge to cynos.

Then you'd just have more corp hopping for cyno alts into an alt corp so as to remain somewhat anonymous

Oh, well in that case, next time I go through Rancer, I should pay concord to turn that into high security space for a day

sacrilege...

eve PvP is super 1337. not many people can manage to mash five function keys after setting orbit distance to their nemesis.

In the ASCN we used to run these giant convoys that consisted of a dozen or more freighters, and 300 or so escort ships. This usually took place once a month, and took A LOT of planning and prep work. There were no jump freighters and jump bridges at that time. And since warp to 0 did not exist, we had to make sure that every member of the fleet had the same set of insta bookmarks.

These convoys took an entire night to make the 40 some odd jumps (each way) to get to the destination after originating in ASCN null space. The following day we would usually handle the trip back and never tried to make the trek both ways in a single evening.

This doesn't just SOUND tedious.... IT WAS TEDIOUS,

Yet I miss it and wish they would have never implemented bridges and jump freighters.

It's not that I miss the act of participating in convoy duty in itself, but instead that I miss the days where alliances could strike a crippling blow against one another by intercepting/ambushing their supply convoys. That was something that I really liked about EVE, and it's kind of sad that such things are no longer an option as a way for alliances to strike at one another outside of simply launching an attack on their sov space.

Logistics interdiction added another level of paranoia to the game, and anything that can keep even the larger alliances constantly looking over their shoulder was and still is a good thing.

In our case, we had to keep a wary eye out for BOB and the MC.... Until they blew us up for good.

It would appear that you are the only person on these forums that gets it. All of the complexity in Eve is being slowly taken away to satisfy the lowest common denominator.