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nitr0s
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Posted - 2005.09.18 18:52:00 -
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 Originally by: dj lightning
Originally by: nitr0s
Originally by: dj lightning
plz add a war zone in great wildlands NBSI are attacking -v- atm thx. :)
Tired of getting owned at home already?
LOL @ nOOb http://nbsi.eve-killboard.net/ thats all i need to say.
All I need to say is:
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Angelus X
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Posted - 2005.09.18 18:54:00 -
[722]
Originally by: dj lightning
LOL @ nOOb http://nbsi.eve-killboard.net/ thats all i need to say.
Glad to see the no-smack policy still in force eh 
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Richard Dawkins
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Posted - 2005.09.18 19:21:00 -
[723]
Originally by: Angelus X
Originally by: dj lightning
LOL @ nOOb http://nbsi.eve-killboard.net/ thats all i need to say.
Glad to see the no-smack policy still in force eh
Yeah, because it's not like he was provoked or anything, right?
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heyjoe52
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Posted - 2005.09.18 19:35:00 -
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come on ppl this is not a flame thread. We contest V's claim to GW, we fight them daily and they fight us. So thusly we contest. End Statement.
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Admiral IceBlock
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Posted - 2005.09.18 20:13:00 -
[725]
Edited by: Admiral IceBlock on 18/09/2005 20:13:55
just becouse you got some people in -v- space doesnt mean its contested. please, get a grip...
"We brake for nobody"
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Nork
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Posted - 2005.09.18 20:53:00 -
[726]
Edited by: Nork on 18/09/2005 20:53:00
funny
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HeadHunta II
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Posted - 2005.09.18 20:54:00 -
[727]
Edited by: HeadHunta II on 18/09/2005 20:54:48
Originally by: Cartiff
nitr0s, i don't know who you are, but there are nohostiles, or battles going on in tenal, its quiet.
Please changed GW to Contested, between NBSI and VI
Our official reply:
Contested? Honestly, it needs a bit more to contest an area than coming from an empire base with a part of an alliance, fly some attack raids, gank some of us.
We agree to mark 7Q-8Z2 as "warzone" between our alliances but thats it. If you want to contest GW, bring more ppl, base in GW, state that you want to start to claim GW, show up constantly.
We spoke already together and you said you just want to have fun in GW fighting us. Good. We love to pvp. We welcome you in GW, like i told you already. You killed some of us yes, we killed some of you. End of story.
Killboard linking, funny, if you need it.
Every selfconfident alliance dont need to do it.
"Mine is longer than yours" O.M.G
Btw...only officials should post in this thread.
/me looks at V-Members also with saying this, thx.
"-V- Vice President"
"-V- Minister of Foreign affairs"
"CEO Ascendancy-Inc."
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Antoinette Civari
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Posted - 2005.09.18 21:10:00 -
[728]
Originally by: Cartiff
Please changed GW to Contested, between NBSI and VI
Do you plan to conquer great wildlands and to keep the region ? Because otherwise its only a warzone.
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Cartiff
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Posted - 2005.09.18 21:11:00 -
[729]
Our assaults on GW started on wednesday, we have been in GW everyday since then, and several large battles and smaller skirmishes have taken place since then.
The fights have been lots of fun, and we are enjoying ourselves. Our motives for this attack are our own, we are asking for a contested in GW, that is all.
As you have seen, more and more NBSI pilots are coming to the area, and so the engagement are only gonna heat up.
Lets have lots of fun and shoot lots.
BTW, Myself, DJ and Parity are the leaders of NBSI, Heyjoe is a director of E-R so we can all post in an official stance in this thread.
Cartiff, CEO
Euphoria Released
NBSI 4TW
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Avalon Beholder
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Posted - 2005.09.19 03:11:00 -
[730]
Originally by: Cartiff
Our assaults on GW started on wednesday, we have been in GW everyday since then, and several large battles and smaller skirmishes have taken place since then.
The fights have been lots of fun, and we are enjoying ourselves. Our motives for this attack are our own, we are asking for a contested in GW, that is all.
As you have seen, more and more NBSI pilots are coming to the area, and so the engagement are only gonna heat up.
Lets have lots of fun and shoot lots.
BTW, Myself, DJ and Parity are the leaders of NBSI, Heyjoe is a director of E-R so we can all post in an official stance in this thread.
You dont contest a region by taking some fleets there for a few days. Warzone at best.
To contest youll need to be there a few weeks constantly at least.
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Kyle Caldrel
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Posted - 2005.09.19 04:54:00 -
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Edited by: Kyle Caldrel on 19/09/2005 04:56:52
There needs to be agreedupon termenology.
Contested means 2 sides are fighting constantly for posession of a region
Warzone should mark escalated fighting in a region.
So it can change one week at a time- nothing to warzone, warzone to contested, and back again? what do you think JF?
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thoth foc
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Posted - 2005.09.19 06:48:00 -
[732]
Originally by: Avalon Beholder
Originally by: Cartiff
Our assaults on GW started on wednesday, we have been in GW everyday since then, and several large battles and smaller skirmishes have taken place since then.
The fights have been lots of fun, and we are enjoying ourselves. Our motives for this attack are our own, we are asking for a contested in GW, that is all.
As you have seen, more and more NBSI pilots are coming to the area, and so the engagement are only gonna heat up.
Lets have lots of fun and shoot lots.
BTW, Myself, DJ and Parity are the leaders of NBSI, Heyjoe is a director of E-R so we can all post in an official stance in this thread.
You dont contest a region by taking some fleets there for a few days. Warzone at best.
To contest youll need to be there a few weeks constantly at least.
tbh unless NBSI have managed more than their usual friggie gank squads, which i seriously doubt, a pirate tag is more suitable..
--thoth
[5],
ex-Curse Alliance
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Raxxar
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Posted - 2005.09.19 06:59:00 -
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Cache has 3 systems of .5 and 2 systems of RA for ages, isn't it a reason for "contested" mark?
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Tansien
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Posted - 2005.09.19 08:29:00 -
[734]
Originally by: Raxxar
Cache has 3 systems of .5 and 2 systems of RA for ages, isn't it a reason for "contested" mark?
They dont hold any of the conq stations, so you mean that if we fly up to "IRON" (or whoever) territory and place a POS there we're contesting the region, even if we dont have any troops there?
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Cartiff
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Posted - 2005.09.19 09:26:00 -
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I won't link to our killbaord, but I'm sure peeps know where it is. You will notice we have been flying BS fleets with support. no frig raids.
Different tactics for different situations.
As to the length of our attacks, as i said we only started the invasion on wedensday, so it is work in progess
Cartiff, CEO
Euphoria Released
NBSI 4TW
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DB Preacher
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Posted - 2005.09.19 09:39:00 -
[736]
Originally by: Tansien
Originally by: Raxxar
Cache has 3 systems of .5 and 2 systems of RA for ages, isn't it a reason for "contested" mark?
They dont hold any of the conq stations, so you mean that if we fly up to "IRON" (or whoever) territory and place a POS there we're contesting the region, even if we dont have any troops there?
Agreed.
Pos + troops + offical forum post declaring the contesting of a region = Contested Region.
Constant daily attacks from troops over a sustained period of time with the troops living in the region or very nearby (not just roadtrips) = Warzone.
Pretty simple i.m.o.
Lots of peeps in this thread seem to just want thier name on the map without actually putting in the groundwork in the game.
dbp
Current RKK Ranking: (CAL5) Second Lieutenant
Drop by and say hi in Reikoku Forums.
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Ku'Gras
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Posted - 2005.09.19 09:58:00 -
[737]
Originally by: Kyle Caldrel
Edited by: Kyle Caldrel on 19/09/2005 04:56:52
There needs to be agreedupon termenology.
Contested means 2 sides are fighting constantly for posession of a region
Warzone should mark escalated fighting in a region.
So it can change one week at a time- nothing to warzone, warzone to contested, and back again? what do you think JF?
Agrees and agrees with what dpb said.
@ Antoinette Civari:
Intention of keeping the territory is not enough to set it to contested. Intentions may not match your military power.
However: if the offensive part states that they are _not_ there to contest they territory but only looking for fun, pirating or on a more than one week road trip the territory should only be marked as a warzone, never as contested.
@ Raxxar:
POS is a military or financial tool, it does not in itself hinder anyone from entering the system. The day we have player owned structures that actively shoots enemies or otherwise hinders their activites having them in enemy territory = contesting it.
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Cartiff
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Posted - 2005.09.19 10:37:00 -
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if we can get something official worked out regarding contestion and actually set some rules, it will eb alot easier for everyone to understand the maps and post their opinions.
I like the BOB post a few up, regarding contesting
Cartiff, CEO
Euphoria Released
NBSI 4TW
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thoth foc
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Posted - 2005.09.19 10:59:00 -
[739]
Originally by: DB Preacher
Pos + troops + offical forum post declaring the contesting of a region = Contested Region.
Constant daily attacks from troops over a sustained period of time with the troops living in the region or very nearby (not just roadtrips) = Warzone.
tbh.. Pos + troops can = road trip also..
and given the regular updates of the map and the fact the politics are mostly static.. is the "sustained period of time" important? in reality the warzones are just different battlefields for old conflicts..
--thoth
[5],
ex-Curse Alliance
ex-DSMA |
DB Preacher
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Posted - 2005.09.19 11:26:00 -
[740]
Originally by: thoth foc
tbh.. Pos + troops can = road trip also..
ofc, but combined with an official statement of intent in the forums then it is a contested region.
If it is a roadtrip with pos and troops for a weekend then it's just a roadtrip...
If it is a roadtrip with pos and troops for an extended period then it is a warzone :)
imo ofc
dbp
Current RKK Ranking: (CAL5) Second Lieutenant
Drop by and say hi in Reikoku Forums.
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RUNYOUFOOLS
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Posted - 2005.09.19 13:11:00 -
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Originally by: DB Preacher
ofc, but combined with an official statement of intent in the forums then it is a contested region.
If it is a roadtrip with pos and troops for a weekend then it's just a roadtrip...
If it is a roadtrip with pos and troops for an extended period then it is a warzone :)
imo ofc
dbp
yup think that sums it up, well as close as your gonna get in eve, any chance of a rule change?.
Originally by: Ginger Magician
I am the best and few would privately dispute it
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DesertKing
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Posted - 2005.09.19 14:51:00 -
[742]
Originally by: Ku'Gras
@ Raxxar:
POS is a military or financial tool, it does not in itself hinder anyone from entering the system. The day we have player owned structures that actively shoots enemies or otherwise hinders their activites having them in enemy territory = contesting it.
 I wrote what I see : three red dots and two blue in cache. Not a big difference. From my side 40% (2 of 5) is 'enemy' for owners - almost half.And it looks like Cache owned by both sides. If .5. have no power to take them all then it is not their.
The number of troops cannot be checked by mapmaker. The number of nice coloured dots can. There is always doubts when there is no proof.
PS: As I can see from that thread Cache marked blue only cause of some forum-bots, not cause real reasons.
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Hast
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Posted - 2005.09.19 16:40:00 -
[743]
Originally by: DesertKing
Originally by: Ku'Gras
@ Raxxar:
POS is a military or financial tool, it does not in itself hinder anyone from entering the system. The day we have player owned structures that actively shoots enemies or otherwise hinders their activites having them in enemy territory = contesting it.
I wrote what I see : three red dots and two blue in cache. Not a big difference. From my side 40% (2 of 5) is 'enemy' for owners - almost half.And it looks like Cache owned by both sides. If .5. have no power to take them all then it is not their.
The number of troops cannot be checked by mapmaker. The number of nice coloured dots can. There is always doubts when there is no proof.
PS: As I can see from that thread Cache marked blue only cause of some forum-bots, not cause real reasons.
well, Our POS's are where they count, namely in the station systems.
hope that clears it up.
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Nytemaster
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Posted - 2005.09.19 20:32:00 -
[744]
Edited by: Nytemaster on 19/09/2005 20:32:15
You want to contest based on less than a week of raiding? Unless you are the only ones there or are getting a 10:1 kill ratio with -V- still there, that's just a warzone based soley on your own words. Contested means you plan on taking the space as your own, not just so you can get a pretty little label on the next map.
I'm beginning to think the map is a bad idea because of these types of posts. This reminds me why a public and official killboard is not necessary.
Originally by: Cartiff
I won't link to our killbaord, but I'm sure peeps know where it is. You will notice we have been flying BS fleets with support. no frig raids.
Different tactics for different situations.
As to the length of our attacks, as i said we only started the invasion on wedensday, so it is work in progess
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Nytemaster
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Vince Draken
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Posted - 2005.09.19 20:43:00 -
[745]
Originally by: Nytemaster
Edited by: Nytemaster on 19/09/2005 20:32:15
You want to contest based on less than a week of raiding? Unless you are the only ones there or are getting a 10:1 kill ratio with -V- still there, that's just a warzone based soley on your own words. Contested means you plan on taking the space as your own, not just so you can get a pretty little label on the next map.
I'm beginning to think the map is a bad idea because of these types of posts. This reminds me why a public and official killboard is not necessary.
Originally by: Cartiff
I won't link to our killbaord, but I'm sure peeps know where it is. You will notice we have been flying BS fleets with support. no frig raids.
Different tactics for different situations.
As to the length of our attacks, as i said we only started the invasion on wedensday, so it is work in progess
AMEN!
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Light Darkness
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Posted - 2005.09.19 20:47:00 -
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Edited by: Light Darkness on 19/09/2005 20:47:33
Funny....
-V- worked over 21/2 month to claim/contest the GW.
Now you come since wednesday into GW and say contested??
Stay 2 month in GW and we get fun and you contested space.
Regards
And wait for fun....
/LD
...sry for my bad english.But you know what i mean.
*-V-President*
*-V-Fleet Command*
*-V- Public Killbord*
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Antoinette Civari
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Posted - 2005.09.19 22:00:00 -
[747]
Originally by: Ku'Gras
@ Antoinette Civari:
Intention of keeping the territory is not enough to set it to contested. Intentions may not match your military power.
Exactly, i`d say that intention of taking and holding the region + troops in the region for certain period of time + the possession of conquerable stations ( if any aviable ) in the region = contested status.
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thelung187
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Posted - 2005.09.20 01:45:00 -
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The [5] now wish to label Venal as a contested region, as the Phoenix Alliance controls virtually no systems within the area, as well as are rarely seen in a militaristic sense. Furthermore, Arcane Technologies extends an official invitation to Joshua to see for himself the control we currently exert over said area.
[ 2005.05.19 22:54:23 ] InnerDrive > only solution safespot till you leave or mine in empire till you leave or something |
Freezal
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Posted - 2005.09.20 23:33:00 -
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See 5's post 2 above about 5's def of contested space....
The PA wish to assert that a gank squad and pos for armored safe spot do not = contested space. Every time PA is in system ATUK log or SS this is not control. Ganking individul pilots while fun for them is not control. While shooting them is fun, we see this as a pirate infestation and a combat opertunity but ATUK have not interupted normal PA operations nor held any system against the will of the PA.
And yes please see lower venal at any time during PA normal operational hours to see just how untrue the above statement is.
Freezal
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Cartiff
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Posted - 2005.09.21 01:37:00 -
[750]
Concidering the general consensus regarding contested regions, NBSI will retract the contrested GW statement and instead ask for a warzone label.
NBSI are not taking POS's to the area, and so we fail to meet 1 crutial criteria.
The invasion however, continues
Cartiff, CEO
Euphoria Released
NBSI 4TW
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