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DB Preacher	Posted - 2006.01.31 12:56:00 - [1771] Originally by: thedragoon This is not the case we have over 30 pos's read to be dropped in their space Then come back when this is done and ask for it and I'm sure the whole of eve will agree that 30 pos are expected before you come back in the thread. dbp Current RKK Ranking: (CAL6) Tanto Drop by and say hi in Reikoku Forums.
Seleene	Posted - 2006.01.31 14:20:00 - [1772] Is Burn Eden going to form an alliance so they can properly claim sovereignty with thier 30 POS's? - CCP - New Documentation Please??
Just Collections	Posted - 2006.01.31 17:20:00 - [1773] Originally by: Seleene Is Burn Eden going to form an alliance so they can properly claim sovereignty with thier 30 POS's? I doubt it, they can't even win a war
thedragoon	Posted - 2006.02.01 01:14:00 - [1774] Originally by: Seleene Is Burn Eden going to form an alliance so they can properly claim sovereignty with thier 30 POS's? We have an alliance in place to take the space as stated in another thread. so yes we still however have alot of work and our allies are making the way to this space as we speak... Burn Eden Kill Board Bruno Octavius > Are you guys winning up there by the way? Keirin Hanzo > no wer not winning, wer whining
Joshua Foiritain	Posted - 2006.02.01 13:35:00 - [1775] Originally by: thedragoon Burn eden is now contestiong The Big Blue space Slighty problem, Big Blue doesnt actually claim any space on the map. ------- [Coreli Corporation Mainframe]
Lizz Litebeer	Posted - 2006.02.01 16:20:00 - [1776] Originally by: Joshua Foiritain Originally by: thedragoon Burn eden is now contestiong The Big Blue space Slighty problem, Big Blue doesnt actually claim any space on the map. Thedragons brain doesn't stretch that far, as i said before BE are just randomly ganking our members and have not as yet done any damage worth mentioning
Pastora	Posted - 2006.02.02 14:20:00 - [1777] Originally by: Shinnen Scalding Pass - V Upper Detorid - CHIMP Lower Detorid - LV Great Wildlands - RED _______________________________________________ If ifs and ands were pots and pans, I would grow mushrooms in my pants.
DjDangle	Posted - 2006.02.02 15:21:00 - [1778] Originally by: Pastora Originally by: Shinnen Scalding Pass - V Upper Detorid - CHIMP Lower Detorid - LV Great Wildlands - RED Wait, that was a joke right? "On My Signal, Unleash Hell"
Pastora	Posted - 2006.02.02 16:00:00 - [1779] Originally by: DjDangle Originally by: Pastora Originally by: Shinnen Scalding Pass - V Upper Detorid - CHIMP Lower Detorid - LV Great Wildlands - RED Wait, that was a joke right? As much as the original one. =) _______________________________________________ If ifs and ands were pots and pans, I would grow mushrooms in my pants.
Aeon Yakati	Posted - 2006.02.02 16:14:00 - [1780] Originally by: Pastora Originally by: Shinnen Scalding Pass - V Upper Detorid - CHIMP Lower Detorid - LV Great Wildlands - RED Shinnen is not a -V- official. If there's any change to the claims as shown on the map, expect to hear so from HH or LD directly.
Shinnen	Posted - 2006.02.02 18:28:00 - [1781] Originally by: Aeon Yakati Originally by: Pastora Originally by: Shinnen Scalding Pass - V Upper Detorid - CHIMP Lower Detorid - LV Great Wildlands - RED Shinnen is not a -V- official. If there's any change to the claims as shown on the map, expect to hear so from HH or LD directly. lol im sorry, I was only messing around being a fool :) --- INFOD
Boonaki	Posted - 2006.02.02 19:10:00 - [1782] Edited by: Boonaki on 02/02/2006 19:10:08 I think... #5 can be changed to FIX, BoB, Trible Souls, Exo, people that I forgot, and friends vs SA #6 can add the anti SA collition to that marker. #5,C Think Huzzah is going to own catch permanently. Fear the Ibis of doom.
pershphanie	Posted - 2006.02.02 21:04:00 - [1783] Originally by: thoth foc You can remove the war marks between F-E and .5. confirmed. also perhaps a road kill icon is appropriate over venal tenal and branch.
Angry Dan	Posted - 2006.02.03 01:01:00 - [1784] Huzzah Federation now hold 2 stations in Catch. V2-VC2 has been held for a few weeks now, and 5-N2EY are solidly Huzzah Federation space. FAT-6P is more complex. Right now, SA holds it, but that is not confirmed. Huzzah Federation has declared neutrality in the SA VS BoB & the "weeee everyone lets pile on war". We have a NAP with BoB and FiX, and we expect it to hold. We still maintain good relations to SA, but we are not assisting them in this war. Pirates are making regular raids in lower Providence. Even though they had been camping the HED-GP pipe for some time prior to this, and are for the most part ex FiX corps, there sudden appearance is totally unconnected with the FiX war. It must be a coincidence that they suddenly started jumping into Providence instead of Catch. Maybe the sign to DSS got whacked the other day, I just don't know. /me hides crayons So, in summary, a pirate infestation marker is probably warranted around HED-GP/lower Providence. Huzzah Federation holds 2 stations, but those pesky, "omg we are so not fix" ex fixians are proving a might troublesome to shift. Next week, we try soap. I'm not privy to Stain intel, so I cannot confirm or deny any comments regarding that. ++++++++++++++++++++ Founder member of the Huzzah Federation. Remember, the grass is greener on our side of the fence Widowmakers director Fear my kneepads of allure!
Joshua Foiritain	Posted - 2006.02.04 17:23:00 - [1785] Note to self; Double check backups before formatting. Fonts are important Managed to rretrieve most, at least all of the map related ones Anyhow sooo; Map updated, think ive got everything covered lemme know if missed something/screwed something up. ------- [Coreli Corporation Mainframe]
spookz	Posted - 2006.02.04 18:58:00 - [1786] 5 occupy H-PA only (in venal), I still don't get why the map shows them controlling all of venal when the majority of this region is occupied by PA. No doubt this will be ignored again. Join FCON
Stulmar Eskanti	Posted - 2006.02.04 19:38:00 - [1787] Edited by: Stulmar Eskanti on 04/02/2006 19:42:04 Oh a new update and no change for Venal although the mods themselves asked u to do something about it since yer last update started flaiming here.
TornSoul	Posted - 2006.02.05 06:36:00 - [1788] Originally by: Joshua Foiritain Contesting a Region that has NPC stations takes a lot more time because of this, it will take an even longer time to get it uncontested. Coming down to take a look (If ive got the time) can speed things up. I suggest you take a week or so off, or however much you deem necessary, and spend that time in Outer Ring and Fountain. The current map doesnt reflect the situation in either of those regions (and hasnt for a long time - shrug) I dont know what kind of 'meassure' you use - But how about "Who are you most likely to run into, (and potentially) get shot at by, the majority of the time" I'll let you be the judge of what to put in place of the current. But change is needed. (Please note, that although my alliance affiliation more or less gives away in what direction I would prefer the change, I have not impossed this on you or anyone else - But simply invited you to come take a look yourself. This is as much a note for all the would-be flamers - Save it!) BIG Lottery [u
TWD	Posted - 2006.02.05 09:33:00 - [1789] Originally by: TornSoul Originally by: Joshua Foiritain Contesting a Region that has NPC stations takes a lot more time because of this, it will take an even longer time to get it uncontested. Coming down to take a look (If ive got the time) can speed things up. I suggest you take a week or so off, or however much you deem necessary, and spend that time in Outer Ring and Fountain. The current map doesnt reflect the situation in either of those regions (and hasnt for a long time - shrug) I dont know what kind of 'meassure' you use - But how about "Who are you most likely to run into, (and potentially) get shot at by, the majority of the time" I'll let you be the judge of what to put in place of the current. But change is needed. (Please note, that although my alliance affiliation more or less gives away in what direction I would prefer the change, I have not impossed this on you or anyone else - But simply invited you to come take a look yourself. This is as much a note for all the would-be flamers - Save it!) This is about territorial control. We can enforce the claim, while others cannot. An example for this can be found here
Rover Vitesse	Posted - 2006.02.05 11:16:00 - [1790] Immensea is now warzone between Southern Border Alliance and CHIMP/LV. Chimaera Pact Minister For Propaganda Rovers Chronicles
Sergio Ling	Posted - 2006.02.05 14:48:00 - [1791] really appreciate this map btw Joshua - ego ftw. as to marker #2 in upper providence: with TSDS leaving over a month ago, and KROM finding new challenges elsewhere, it has calmed down a lot, and the space is now held jointly between three friendly alliances: CORVD, UNITY, and -M-. There are still pirates (mainly W1N NWDR and Elliot Manchild) but it's a lot more stable, sovreignty is held by the three friendly factions stated above, and there's a safety network in place for neutrals to approach the area ____________________________ Malthros Zenobia Says - You:, Us: You volunteered... (but i love you) - Wrangler [red]Wrangler loves me yay -Sergio[/red
Cpt Pugwash	Posted - 2006.02.05 16:29:00 - [1792] Originally by: TWD Originally by: TornSoul Originally by: Joshua Foiritain Contesting a Region that has NPC stations takes a lot more time because of this, it will take an even longer time to get it uncontested. Coming down to take a look (If ive got the time) can speed things up. I suggest you take a week or so off, or however much you deem necessary, and spend that time in Outer Ring and Fountain. The current map doesnt reflect the situation in either of those regions (and hasnt for a long time - shrug) I dont know what kind of 'meassure' you use - But how about "Who are you most likely to run into, (and potentially) get shot at by, the majority of the time" I'll let you be the judge of what to put in place of the current. But change is needed. (Please note, that although my alliance affiliation more or less gives away in what direction I would prefer the change, I have not impossed this on you or anyone else - But simply invited you to come take a look yourself. This is as much a note for all the would-be flamers - Save it!) This is about territorial control. We can enforce the claim, while others cannot. An example for this can be found here Blobbing a system once a month does not constitute control Bob lost their last sovereinghty claiming POS to VC/IMP and have not dared to put one back as they know they do not have the manpower to defend it. Bob are overstretched and incapable of controlling Fountain. At best you deserve a pirate marker for the occasional raid on Fountain space
Righteous Fury	Posted - 2006.02.05 16:41:00 - [1793] Originally by: Cpt Pugwash Blobbing a system once a month does not constitute control Bob lost their last sovereinghty claiming POS to VC/IMP and have not dared to put one back as they know they do not have the manpower to defend it. Bob are overstretched and incapable of controlling Fountain. At best you deserve a pirate marker for the occasional raid on Fountain space Pugwash, you have no place to comment on Fountain considering your corp has abandoned Fountain and is now based out of 37S-KO in Stain.
Tadis	Posted - 2006.02.05 17:57:00 - [1794] FAT now Fix ownership.
Dianabolic	Posted - 2006.02.05 18:34:00 - [1795] Originally by: Cpt Pugwash Bob lost their last sovereinghty claiming POS to VC/IMP and have not dared to put one back as they know they do not have the manpower to defend it. 2 things: 1 - It was a military pos that was never meant to stay there as long as it did - I'd have preferred to take it down myself, but you taking down an unarmed pos hardly constitutes your chest beating. 2 - It's quite easy for anyone to check the soverignty map and see BoB claiming pos's in fountain, so you're either lieing (easy to spot) or don't have the first idea of what is in fountain, becuase you're not there - and therefor have no right to comment in this thread. Originally by: Thomas Jefferson A society that will trade a little liberty for a little security will lose both and deserve neither
TornSoul	Posted - 2006.02.05 18:35:00 - [1796] Originally by: TWD This is about territorial control. We can enforce the claim, while others cannot. An example for this can be found here If destroying a POS is all it takes - Then we (FA) has exactly the same claim. The only difference beeing that we dont make a post on the forums each time we nuke a POS in Fountain. And what Cpt Pugwash says about BoB presense is actually pretty much the truth. But again - As stated in my initial post, let Joshua come have a look for himself. The lot of us getting into an argument here isnt going to change a thing, and will only lead to some mod cleaining. Which is .excactly. why I left out any 'fingerpointing' in my initial post. BIG Lottery [u
Dell	Posted - 2006.02.05 18:50:00 - [1797] i saw a member of black sun in NOL-M9 yesterday their for they should claim delve BoB Killboard
TWD	Posted - 2006.02.05 19:00:00 - [1798] Originally by: TornSoul If destroying a POS is all it takes - Then we (FA) has exactly the same claim. The only difference beeing that we dont make a post on the forums each time we nuke a POS in Fountain. And what Cpt Pugwash says about BoB presense is actually pretty much the truth. But again - As stated in my initial post, let Joshua come have a look for himself. The lot of us getting into an argument here isnt going to change a thing, and will only lead to some mod cleaining. Which is .excactly. why I left out any 'fingerpointing' in my initial post. There have been no succesful attempts to take down any of our POS that is online and is defended by structures. When you put up a POS, we are able to take it down and from past experiences you are not able to get a fleet together to defend it. That is the main difference. We have people living in the Fountain and exploiting its resources. When there is a hostile fleet in Fountain threatening our sovereignty they will get a response from us. That is why we control the region.
TornSoul	Posted - 2006.02.05 20:03:00 - [1799] Originally by: TWD Originally by: TornSoul If destroying a POS is all it takes - Then we (FA) has exactly the same claim. The only difference beeing that we dont make a post on the forums each time we nuke a POS in Fountain. And what Cpt Pugwash says about BoB presense is actually pretty much the truth. But again - As stated in my initial post, let Joshua come have a look for himself. The lot of us getting into an argument here isnt going to change a thing, and will only lead to some mod cleaining. Which is .excactly. why I left out any 'fingerpointing' in my initial post. There have been no succesful attempts to take down any of our POS that is online and is defended by structures. I could say the same for any number of corps in FA/VC etc - But as I dont have the details for each and every one of them - I'll leave out the corp names. Not to mention... Where excactly are the BoB POS's in say Fountain... In core or some dead end arm noone really gives a toss about anyhow... (at least not enough to bother with pulling them down - yet...) Originally by: TWD When you put up a POS, we are able to take it down and from past experiences you are not able to get a fleet together to defend it. It's matter of choice if you want to defend it or not aint it? As with the BoB POS that got nuked.... The endless excuses for that one are getting boring. Kettle meet pot. Originally by: TWD That is the main difference. We have people living in the Fountain and exploiting its resources. As do FA, as do VC as do... BoB pilots .living. in Fountiain & Outer Ring are .vastly. outnumbered by non-BoB pilots. Originally by: TWD When there is a hostile fleet in Fountain threatening our sovereignty they will get a response from us. We probably have differing opinions on what "threatening our sovereignty" means excactly... But the fact is - Fountain & Outer Ring is .steaming. with forces hostile to BoB&Friends (see furthermore above about numbers) Originally by: TWD That is why we control the region. As pugwash said - Your so called 'control' is limited to 'once a month'. Doing 'raids' is not control. Its more like the anthics of a GF that one time a month... Theres a few days you have to be carefull what you say and do - The rest of the time... well... ----------- This will be my last post on this. I sadly see myself pulled into excactly the discussion I wanted to avoid in the first place. I see that no amount of sound reasoning and bringing facts to the table can burst the bubble that BoB lives in (with regards to Fountain & Outer Ring). Enjoy your bubble. BIG Lottery [u
DB Preacher	Posted - 2006.02.05 20:12:00 - [1800] Josh, anytime you want to drop by Fountain, please do not hesitate to do so. Tornsoul: Until you can pull together any sort of forces to challenge our claim, please refrain from spilling onto this thread after every update when nothing has changed. We maintain our control on fountain but ofc there are random pirate forces running around which are already represented by the warzone on the map. Thanks, dbp Current RKK Ranking: (CAL6) Tanto Drop by and say hi in Reikoku Forums.

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