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Joshua Foiritain
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Posted - 2005.07.13 22:23:00 -
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Latest Version: 07.07.2005
Older Versions: None Yet.
The map is currently somewhat out of date, Id would like alliance leaders to contact me as soon as possible with any changes required to get it up to date.
I would also like to make a list of contacts within each of the alliances, so either leave the contacts for your alliance in this topic or evemail them to me as soon as possible. ------------------
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Zhuge Liang

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Posted - 2005.07.13 22:27:00 -
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Rules for this thread
1. Only post changes you believe should be made to the map.
2. If you disagree with the map makers decisions, contact a representative of your alliance and have them contact the map maker via eve mail or similar.
3. If you disagree with the map makers decisions, do not post, your post will be considered off topic and deleted, you may recieve a warning or a ban.
4. If the situation can not be solved with a discussion between the contesting alliances and the map maker you can contact the moderator team and ask them to mediate.
We, The EVE Forum Moderator Team, believe that the map is a good resource for the community. We acknowledge the fact that any map can never be completely accurate, but as long as it shows the approximate locations of alliances and dangerous war spots, it does fill its purpose. We support the map by making it easily accessible and easily updated. However, we do not take any responsability for the content of the map.
Previous Authors: À Kalshrith Maps: 28/10/2003 ~ 11/11/2003 À DP Mephisto Maps: 07/03/2004 ~ 02/09/2004 À Quarath Maps: 08.05.2004 ~ 02/02/2005 À Righteous Fury Maps: 20.03.2005 ~ 21/06/2005
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ParMizaN
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Posted - 2005.07.13 22:28:00 -
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Edited by: ParMizaN on 13/07/2005 22:29:57 For F-E contact me, marichek or gorthalion.
(currently no hostilities in our claimed areas of vale and geminate)
For union contact pershphanie (sp maybe :S- alcohol) or krullz. They are currently in total control of tribute.
Excellent work m8 ------------------
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Nifel
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Posted - 2005.07.13 22:30:00 -
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Please make a latest.jpg that people can reference to.
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Roger Dodger
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Posted - 2005.07.13 22:41:00 -
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Edited by: Roger Dodger on 13/07/2005 22:41:21 Congratulations on the landslide. 
Catch is now controlled by the Stain Empire, and Omist is controlled by MASS. Red Alliance claims Insmother, -V- have moved to the Great Wildlands.
Also, the proper spelling is Detorid rather than Detroid.
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Joshua Foiritain
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Posted - 2005.07.13 22:49:00 -
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Ok thanks Parz and the Latest Version Link will be uploaded after tonight.
Originally by: Roger Dodger Congratulations on the landslide. 
Catch is now controlled by the Stain Empire, and Omist is controlled by MASS. Red Alliance claims Insmother, -V- have moved to the Great Wildlands.
Also, the proper spelling is Detorid rather than Detroid.
Is Foundation still fightint for GW? Or is it completely uncontested? ------------------
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Balistic Void
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Posted - 2005.07.13 22:52:00 -
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Might want to put a "Pirate Infestation" tag over FE space :)
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The Enslaver
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Posted - 2005.07.13 22:54:00 -
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RA/V have a NAP now afaik.
5 are at war with RA.
5 are the controlling force in Wicked Creek, just taking the stations (damned bugged POS's). --------
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The Enslaver
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Posted - 2005.07.13 22:55:00 -
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Oh, and GW is 90% V, with a few FND here and there that aren't worthy of note imo. --------
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Joshua Foiritain
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Posted - 2005.07.13 22:58:00 -
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Okay, currently adding those changes. In the mean time; Does anyone know what space COE claims? ------------------
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FalloutBoy
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Posted - 2005.07.13 23:08:00 -
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prolly should move paragon back to full stain control smash has moved somwhere else. (dunno where) and as stated above catch is now stain.
Congrats on u doing the new map I like the new style. I would of liked to have found time over the past couple days to clean up my map and actually make a run for getting something ready, but am perfectly happy with the look of your map.
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ParMizaN
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Posted - 2005.07.13 23:15:00 -
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Originally by: Balistic Void Might want to put a "Pirate Infestation" tag over FE space :)
(that would be us i think unless something hapened :S) ------------------
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Amthrianius
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Posted - 2005.07.13 23:18:00 -
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Both wicked creek and Insmother are warzones atm with RAvs5 in particular wicked creek where stations are changing hands and pos's being destroyed etc 8 can be changed to 9
i dont think coalition is at war with FIX and most coalition apart from Collective and MASS have joined SE i believe
1 is 95% in -v- control and has been for sometime ---------------
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Nick Curso
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Posted - 2005.07.13 23:32:00 -
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Edited by: Nick Curso on 13/07/2005 23:32:44 yup Omist ois MASS region the catch is now SE. Oh and were fighting imperium.
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munchy
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Posted - 2005.07.14 00:06:00 -
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Originally by: The Enslaver Oh, and GW is 90% V, with a few FND here and there that aren't worthy of note imo.
foundation are very much in great wildlands, its better to not quote on things you are not involved in, especially if you are biased towards one of the sides of a conflict. ---
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Arkanis
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Posted - 2005.07.14 00:07:00 -
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Originally by: Joshua Foiritain Okay, currently adding those changes. In the mean time; Does anyone know what space COE claims?
COE's claim is only the cluster around the Providence systems of b-wplz, y9-mdg etc it's the XV7L-S constellation on the map.
Where as they will tell you the own the entire upper region of providence, apart from these systems their control is little to zero in providence.
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Nick Curso
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Posted - 2005.07.14 00:18:00 -
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Edited by: Nick Curso on 14/07/2005 00:20:50
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Altar Mei
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Posted - 2005.07.14 00:47:00 -
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Edited by: Altar Mei on 14/07/2005 00:47:39 Just wanted to make a request Joshua, if you have the time could you maybe post the map at different screen resolutions? Looks kind of funny when I make it stretch to fit.
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AvanCade
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Posted - 2005.07.14 01:04:00 -
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I beg you, make it fit on a EVE resolution 1024width that means. Its annoying to need to scroll both ways. kthnxbye.
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Nebba Kenezzer
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Posted - 2005.07.14 01:52:00 -
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Actually I think it's fine.
It is really too much to ask to post different screen resolutions, c'mon. The universe is too big to be smushed into 1024x768. <img src="http://curse.ca/img/nebba/sig.php" border=0> |
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Recluse Viramor
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Posted - 2005.07.14 02:40:00 -
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If you look at the in game map Josh and select Coalition of Empires on the filter, it will show the locations of their pos's.
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Roger Dodger
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Posted - 2005.07.14 02:51:00 -
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Joshua: The Coalition doesn't exist anymore. Only MASS controls Omist.
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Ben Derindar
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Posted - 2005.07.14 03:24:00 -
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Edited by: Ben Derindar on 14/07/2005 03:24:59 Firstly Joshua, congratulations on your new role.
Secondly, just a couple of *minor* suggestions regarding accuracy of existing claims:
1. Impass region actually extends about 4 or 5 jumps further north along the route currently marked as being a part of Tenerifis.
2. The bottom few systems immediately west of Feythabolis are actually a part of Esoteria, not Paragon Soul.
/Ben
EDIT: grammar
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Lucca Deradi
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Posted - 2005.07.14 03:55:00 -
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So I'm still newish to the game and I'm not too familiar with the politics of The Map(TM), but shouldn't Delve and Querlious be marked with Pirate Infestations to denote the, heh, new arrivals? I know FIX isn't too pleased with their new neighbors...
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General Killah
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Posted - 2005.07.14 03:58:00 -
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Yes please update to show SMASH has left Paragon Soul. It will need to be updated with a new place showing us soon... ---------------------------------
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d4ve
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Posted - 2005.07.14 07:12:00 -
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nice new map. looks correct too i think except for one thing, the five has not been seen in pure blind in any serious numbers for weeks.. there is fighting there, but mostly us northeners against kr0m, YOY and snigg pirates.
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Chribba
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Posted - 2005.07.14 08:13:00 -
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Congrats Joshua, lemme know if we need to make some special work with EVE-Files to aid your map-making :)
Am also wondering, what reqs are need to have your area as claimed?
Eg you must fight? 0.0? POS? Or can I claim my own stuff simply by telling you I do so?
Help me out here I just wanna own one system and be on the map 
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Gradinger
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Posted - 2005.07.14 08:18:00 -
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just need to congratulate u.. it¦s looking very nice :)
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Stuu
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Posted - 2005.07.14 09:52:00 -
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I would like to, Say I love the map!!!
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Blitz0r
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Posted - 2005.07.14 10:19:00 -
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Edited by: Blitz0r on 14/07/2005 10:19:44 The new map is great as i've said before, you'll get into the work pretty soon. :)
What people said about different resolutions are prolly for their background image in windows.... stretch    
Good job on the map, when it comes down to Foundation in GW i think they should still be in the map though, thats what -V- and [5] are fighting in GW and now IMP (in some numbers) have come down to help them out. Foundation have the most POS's in GW (stripmining?), im not saying that that's what counts but thats a fact.
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Joshua Foiritain
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Posted - 2005.07.14 11:33:00 -
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Originally by: AvanCade I beg you, make it fit on a EVE resolution 1024width that means. Its annoying to need to scroll both ways. kthnxbye.
Thats going to be quite hard. The eve universe is bigger in height then width it would leave a large portion of blue empty space on the sides. The main problem would be size it down, it original is 1600x1200 with some of empty sides cut off. Sizing it down from 1600x1200 to 1024 makes both the region and alliance labers unreadable.
Sizing down the entire map isnt really an option either since more and more alliances may start claiming constellations as the NWO furthers and COSMOSS gets expanded. Its hard enough to figure out where the hell certain consellations are as it is. I was actually thinking about making a bigger version 
Originally by: Ben Derindar 1. Impass region actually extends about 4 or 5 jumps further north along the route currently marked as being a part of Tenerifis. 2. The bottom few systems immediately west of Feythabolis are actually a part of Esoteria, not Paragon Soul.
Ok thanks, will be fixed on this afternoons version.
Originally by: Roger Dodger Joshua: The Coalition doesn't exist anymore. Only MASS controls Omist.
Hehe i know, mass contacted me last night but as it was 2 am i didnt quite have time to change it Itll be fixed on this afternoons version as well.
Originally by: Lucca Deradi So I'm still newish to the game and I'm not too familiar with the politics of The Map(TM), but shouldn't Delve and Querlious be marked with Pirate Infestations to denote the, heh, new arrivals? I know FIX isn't too pleased with their new neighbors...
Are the Blood Raider Corps hostile towards FIX inside Fox or Bob Space?
Originally by: General Killah Yes please update to show SMASH has left Paragon Soul. It will need to be updated with a new place showing us soon...
Will be fixed this afternoon too.
Originally by: Chribba Congrats Joshua, lemme know if we need to make some special work with EVE-Files to aid your map-making :)
Am also wondering, what reqs are need to have your area as claimed?
Eg you must fight? 0.0? POS? Or can I claim my own stuff simply by telling you I do so?
Help me out here I just wanna own one system and be on the map 
I guess setting up a POS somewhere to claim space without anybody trying to blow holes in it would make it an uncontested claim. Have to think a bit about this though 
Originally by: Blitz0r Good job on the map, when it comes down to Foundation in GW i think they should still be in the map though, thats what -V- and [5] are fighting in GW and now IMP (in some numbers) have come down to help them out. Foundation have the most POS's in GW (stripmining?), im not saying that that's what counts but thats a fact.
For now ill leave it as contested until the ships killed blobs on the map in GW go away  ------------------
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Daniel Jackson
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Posted - 2005.07.14 12:35:00 -
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who owns the provadence region? its still 0.0 space
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Joshua Foiritain
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Posted - 2005.07.14 12:36:00 -
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Edited by: Joshua Foiritain on 14/07/2005 12:36:51
Originally by: Chribba Congrats Joshua, lemme know if we need to make some special work with EVE-Files to aid your map-making :)
Is it possible to overwrite files? I tried removing the current version and upload a new one but then it gives me an error message. 
@Daniel; CVA, Huzzah and COE all claims parts of it. Theres still unclaimed space left in the region though (I presume however its unclaimed for a reason...). ------------------
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Coug
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Posted - 2005.07.14 12:40:00 -
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Stain needs a warzone marker indicating Vertigo Coalition vs Stain.
Vertigo Coalition is in control of one of the constellations inside Stain, but we will refrain from officially contesting it for now.
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Drilla
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Posted - 2005.07.14 12:44:00 -
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Nice map Josh but is it me or do the numbers not match the numbers in the legend?
You have SMASH vs. Stain in Syndicate etc. :D
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Chribba
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Posted - 2005.07.14 12:45:00 -
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Originally by: Joshua Foiritain Is it possible to overwrite files? I tried removing the current version and upload a new one but then it gives me an error message. 
What error did it give you? Also I changed so that your account _should_ now have overwrite access.
Let me know if it doesn't.
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Blacklight
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Posted - 2005.07.14 13:02:00 -
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Originally by: Lucca Deradi So I'm still newish to the game and I'm not too familiar with the politics of The Map(TM), but shouldn't Delve and Querlious be marked with Pirate Infestations to denote the, heh, new arrivals? I know FIX isn't too pleased with their new neighbors...
That is not required for Delve.
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Nez Perces
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Posted - 2005.07.14 13:18:00 -
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mmm can't seem to access the map gives a dead link for me... 
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Joshua Foiritain
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Posted - 2005.07.14 13:24:00 -
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Coug: Fixed. Drilla: Oopsie, Fixed. Chribba: It works, thanks a lot I didnt wrote down the error though  Nez Perces: Thats odd, maybe you tried to view it while it was being uploaded? Refreshing a few times might work  ------------------
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AvanCade
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Posted - 2005.07.14 13:28:00 -
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Edited by: AvanCade on 14/07/2005 13:31:19 http://www.eve-files.com/media/corp/CRII/1024.jpg
Thats not 1024width.. thats like 512. Other map creators could so why can't anyone else.
The current one is 1045 width....
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Joshua Foiritain
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Posted - 2005.07.14 13:39:00 -
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Originally by: AvanCade Edited by: AvanCade on 14/07/2005 13:31:19 http://www.eve-files.com/media/corp/CRII/1024.jpg
Thats not 1024width.. thats like 512. Other map creators could so why can't anyone else.
The current one is 1045 width....
Just the width is imporant? Not the height? I figured it would be required for desktop usage or something. Making the normal map 1024 pix wide would be easy. Hell i can make it 1010 wide so people at 1024x768 can view it and the scrollbar next to it without getting a scrollbar at the bottom  ------------------
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munchy
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Posted - 2005.07.14 14:18:00 -
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may i ask why you made one side of the contested forces in gw smaller? i dont mean to be picky but it kinda makes it look abit like "so and so has more control" this would be fine, if it was true, please do not believe everything said on the forums. ---
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Nez Perces
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Posted - 2005.07.14 17:00:00 -
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mmm still cant get the link to work..... is anybody else having this problem?
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Imran
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Posted - 2005.07.14 18:37:00 -
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change IRON to
Imran rule of the north
ty.
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Qalten
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Posted - 2005.07.14 18:52:00 -
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Congrats, JF! You deserved to win and I look forward to watching your map develop.
There is usually a parallel between the Territory Map and the Diplomacy Table that Amataras and I administer. We have a decent list of contact information there on the Alliances so feel free to use it as necessary.
Take care :)
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Goramath
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Posted - 2005.07.14 20:54:00 -
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Originally by: Daniel Jackson who owns the provadence region? its still 0.0 space
Providence is partially occupied by HUZZAH and COE it would seem. The entire region is rather uninteresting, since the ore there sucks and the pirates aren't all that impressive.
Btw: If possible, could you compress the image a bit? Right now it's 1mb + in size, which takes a while to load even on meh secksi cable, but it could just be that the site was slow at that moment. ----- Goramath |

AvanCade
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Posted - 2005.07.14 22:20:00 -
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Originally by: Joshua Foiritain
Originally by: AvanCade Edited by: AvanCade on 14/07/2005 13:31:19 http://www.eve-files.com/media/corp/CRII/1024.jpg
Thats not 1024width.. thats like 512. Other map creators could so why can't anyone else.
The current one is 1045 width....
Just the width is imporant? Not the height? I figured it would be required for desktop usage or something. Making the normal map 1024 pix wide would be easy. Hell i can make it 1010 wide so people at 1024x768 can view it and the scrollbar next to it without getting a scrollbar at the bottom 
Well, or 768 width, but scrolling in two directions is annoying and timeconsuming and it can easily be prevented. That it cant be done in 1024x768 was already known to me :).
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dimensionZ
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Posted - 2005.07.14 22:46:00 -
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Or get a decent monitor. I dont mind scrolling a bit, but i'm in 1280x1024
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Ikvar
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Posted - 2005.07.14 23:21:00 -
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Edited by: Ikvar on 14/07/2005 23:24:11 Edited by: Ikvar on 14/07/2005 23:22:52 I think you're rather giving COE a bit too much credit.... all they have is hundreds of POS, the space is undefended, let alone claimed. (Unless you count a couple of snipers 150k off the KBP7-G gate with very badly placed bubbles defending space )
Providence wise, it's not really claimed at all, not even many pirates there now I've left for the north  __________________
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Lo3d3R
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Posted - 2005.07.15 02:57:00 -
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thk god for a clear map, first one that changes the design gets it 
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Joshua Foiritain
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Posted - 2005.07.15 10:54:00 -
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Edited by: Joshua Foiritain on 15/07/2005 10:54:51
Originally by: AvanCade Well, or 768 width, but scrolling in two directions is annoying and timeconsuming and it can easily be prevented. That it cant be done in 1024x768 was already known to me :).
Hmm well 768 wide is awfully small.
@Qalten: Thats perfect, Thanks a lot  @munchy: Its on the fix list. ------------------
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Amthrianius
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Posted - 2005.07.17 11:24:00 -
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Originally by: Shiviara
The Five space is currently being dominated by the northern alliances (IMP,G,PA,IRON,FE,UNION), Red Alliance & FIX. As shown through www.five.killboard.net (even tho not all their losses are being posted).
ROFL its not April the 1st yet. [5] are in full control of all their regions + dominating 2 of RA's claimed ones.
I fail to see how camping HED-GP in catch for 2hrs a day (not [5] space) is "dominating [5] space" but nice try alt.
Can we have a no-alt's allowed to post lies in this thread rule? :/ ---------------
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Joshua Foiritain
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Posted - 2005.07.17 11:41:00 -
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Edited by: Joshua Foiritain on 17/07/2005 11:41:28
Originally by: Shiviara Imperium Alliance Control Syndicate as they have stated multiple times before.
The Five space is currently being dominated by the northern alliances (IMP,G,PA,IRON,FE,UNION), Red Alliance & FIX. As shown through www.five.killboard.net (even tho not all their losses are being posted).
MASS no longer has any major force within Imperium space.
Stain space is under heavy attack from quite a few corporations - V I R I I and co.
A: Youre an alt B: The opinion of an alt is worth just as much as a bag of peas to me. C: My 2nd account has been down in Curse/Scalding for the past week and tbh i cant say ive any diffrence. ------------------
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Shiviara
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Posted - 2005.07.17 13:44:00 -
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Originally by: Joshua Foiritain Edited by: Joshua Foiritain on 17/07/2005 11:41:28
Originally by: Shiviara Imperium Alliance Control Syndicate as they have stated multiple times before.
The Five space is currently being dominated by the northern alliances (IMP,G,PA,IRON,FE,UNION), Red Alliance & FIX. As shown through www.five.killboard.net (even tho not all their losses are being posted).
MASS no longer has any major force within Imperium space.
Stain space is under heavy attack from quite a few corporations - V I R I I and co.
A: Youre an alt B: The opinion of an alt is worth just as much as a bag of peas to me. C: My 2nd account has been down in Curse/Scalding for the past week and tbh i cant say ive any diffrence.
I may be an alt but this says everything i need to
Five space is a war zone.
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Coranor
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Posted - 2005.07.17 13:59:00 -
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Going by the Killboard alone I can honestly say that you're talking through your ass.
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Kcel Chim
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Posted - 2005.07.17 14:02:00 -
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Originally by: Shiviara
I may be an alt but this says everything i need to
Five space is a war zone.
Reread post #62 then reread post #2 and move on.
Life can be so easy, you just need to learn to read !
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corporal hicks
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Posted - 2005.07.17 14:30:00 -
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FIX is not Hostile to the Bloodraider RP groups, No need for Pirate infestation, we dont bother them and they dont bother us yet. The rper's get a hard enough time without 0.0 alliance's pounding them.
" Stay Frosty "
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Dr MOo
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Posted - 2005.07.17 15:27:00 -
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Originally by: Amthrianius
Originally by: Shiviara
The Five space is currently being dominated by the northern alliances (IMP,G,PA,IRON,FE,UNION), Red Alliance & FIX. As shown through www.five.killboard.net (even tho not all their losses are being posted).
ROFL its not April the 1st yet. [5] are in full control of all their regions + dominating 2 of RA's claimed ones.
I fail to see how camping HED-GP in catch for 2hrs a day (not [5] space) is "dominating [5] space" but nice try alt.
Can we have a no-alt's allowed to post lies in this thread rule? :/
The PA killboard alone shows loads of kills throughout the day in HED-GP and also in other [5] claimed space. And i havn't checked the others yet.
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Velsharoon
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Posted - 2005.07.17 15:50:00 -
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Nice map, makes me proud to be in EVE looking at the political landscape :)
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Amthrianius
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Posted - 2005.07.17 16:51:00 -
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Originally by: Dr MOo
Originally by: Amthrianius
Originally by: Shiviara
The Five space is currently being dominated by the northern alliances (IMP,G,PA,IRON,FE,UNION), Red Alliance & FIX. As shown through www.five.killboard.net (even tho not all their losses are being posted).
ROFL its not April the 1st yet. [5] are in full control of all their regions + dominating 2 of RA's claimed ones.
I fail to see how camping HED-GP in catch for 2hrs a day (not [5] space) is "dominating [5] space" but nice try alt.
Can we have a no-alt's allowed to post lies in this thread rule? :/
The PA killboard alone shows loads of kills throughout the day in HED-GP and also in other [5] claimed space. And i havn't checked the others yet.
HED-GP isnt [5] claimed space, none of catch is as the map already shows thus your point is useless. Its like us war deccing PA, going to Yulai, killing people and saying we are slaughtering people in PA space.......
But anyway this isnt the place for arguements, this is a place where map info has to be made and as Joshua says his 2nd account has been in the area so we'll leave it up to his eyes :) ---------------
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Shiviara
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Posted - 2005.07.17 17:01:00 -
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Originally by: Amthrianius
Originally by: Dr MOo
Originally by: Amthrianius
Originally by: Shiviara
The Five space is currently being dominated by the northern alliances (IMP,G,PA,IRON,FE,UNION), Red Alliance & FIX. As shown through www.five.killboard.net (even tho not all their losses are being posted).
ROFL its not April the 1st yet. [5] are in full control of all their regions + dominating 2 of RA's claimed ones.
I fail to see how camping HED-GP in catch for 2hrs a day (not [5] space) is "dominating [5] space" but nice try alt.
Can we have a no-alt's allowed to post lies in this thread rule? :/
The PA killboard alone shows loads of kills throughout the day in HED-GP and also in other [5] claimed space. And i havn't checked the others yet.
HED-GP isnt [5] claimed space, none of catch is as the map already shows thus your point is useless. Its like us war deccing PA, going to Yulai, killing people and saying we are slaughtering people in PA space.......
But anyway this isnt the place for arguements, this is a place where map info has to be made and as Joshua says his 2nd account has been in the area so we'll leave it up to his eyes :)
If there isnt a war sign put on five space then it is more than obvious this map maker is biased.
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Angelus X
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Posted - 2005.07.17 17:30:00 -
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Originally by: Shiviara
If there isnt a war sign put on five space then it is more than obvious this map maker is biased.
This is the kind of alt trolling bull- that got the map temporarily removed last time. Nobody cares for the opinion of an alt.
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Sir JoJo
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Posted - 2005.07.17 17:48:00 -
[63]
Originally by: Shiviara
Originally by: Amthrianius
Originally by: Dr MOo
Originally by: Amthrianius
Originally by: Shiviara
The Five space is currently being dominated by the northern alliances (IMP,G,PA,IRON,FE,UNION), Red Alliance & FIX. As shown through www.five.killboard.net (even tho not all their losses are being posted).
ROFL its not April the 1st yet. [5] are in full control of all their regions + dominating 2 of RA's claimed ones.
I fail to see how camping HED-GP in catch for 2hrs a day (not [5] space) is "dominating [5] space" but nice try alt.
Can we have a no-alt's allowed to post lies in this thread rule? :/
The PA killboard alone shows loads of kills throughout the day in HED-GP and also in other [5] claimed space. And i havn't checked the others yet.
HED-GP isnt [5] claimed space, none of catch is as the map already shows thus your point is useless. Its like us war deccing PA, going to Yulai, killing people and saying we are slaughtering people in PA space.......
But anyway this isnt the place for arguements, this is a place where map info has to be made and as Joshua says his 2nd account has been in the area so we'll leave it up to his eyes :)
If there isnt a war sign put on five space then it is more than obvious this map maker is biased.
Listen Dip****. its guys like u who destroy this fine map for the rest of the Eve Comunity so plzz be quiet and let keep the map.
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Shiwan Khan
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Posted - 2005.07.17 18:18:00 -
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please add a mark in HLW-HP for Imperium vs 5.
2005.06.17 07:15:13 combat Your 1400mm Howitzer Artillery II perfectly strikes Nebba Kenezzer [SNRA], wrecking for 2250.9 damage. |

Shiviara
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Posted - 2005.07.17 18:56:00 -
[65]
Originally by: Sir JoJo
Originally by: Shiviara
Originally by: Amthrianius
Originally by: Dr MOo
Originally by: Amthrianius
Originally by: Shiviara
The Five space is currently being dominated by the northern alliances (IMP,G,PA,IRON,FE,UNION), Red Alliance & FIX. As shown through www.five.killboard.net (even tho not all their losses are being posted).
ROFL its not April the 1st yet. [5] are in full control of all their regions + dominating 2 of RA's claimed ones.
I fail to see how camping HED-GP in catch for 2hrs a day (not [5] space) is "dominating [5] space" but nice try alt.
Can we have a no-alt's allowed to post lies in this thread rule? :/
The PA killboard alone shows loads of kills throughout the day in HED-GP and also in other [5] claimed space. And i havn't checked the others yet.
HED-GP isnt [5] claimed space, none of catch is as the map already shows thus your point is useless. Its like us war deccing PA, going to Yulai, killing people and saying we are slaughtering people in PA space.......
But anyway this isnt the place for arguements, this is a place where map info has to be made and as Joshua says his 2nd account has been in the area so we'll leave it up to his eyes :)
If there isnt a war sign put on five space then it is more than obvious this map maker is biased.
Listen Dip****. its guys like u who destroy this fine map for the rest of the Eve Comunity so plzz be quiet and let keep the map.
Actually its openly corrupt map-makers.
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ParMizaN
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Posted - 2005.07.17 20:41:00 -
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Shiviara: you are talking through your ass... F-E has not been down there for ages, and 5 space does not seem to be overly contested by anyone. Post with your main and perhaps people will listen... ------------------
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Light Darkness
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Posted - 2005.07.17 20:50:00 -
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Originally by: Joshua Foiritain Edited by: Joshua Foiritain on 14/07/2005 13:18:57
Latest Version: Latest Pending Changes: None.
Older Versions: 14.07.107, 07.07.107.
I would also like to make a list of contacts within each of the alliances, so either leave the contacts for your alliance in this topic or evemail them to me as soon as possible.
a) Only "Light Darkness" or "HeadHunta II" are able to can give Information from the [-V-] Veritas Immortalis Alliance
b) GW is more under [-V-] (and friends) control. Foundation dont stay a fight and most time no "F" member in GW. Only small gangs running from "F" around GW.
c) [-V-] is allied with Tyrell Corp.
Regards /LD ---------------------------------------------------------- *[- V -]-Fleet Admiral*
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Sir JoJo
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Posted - 2005.07.18 00:24:00 -
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Originally by: Shiwan Khan please add a mark in HLW-HP for Imperium vs 5.
HLW??? ROFLMAO
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dimensionZ
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Posted - 2005.07.18 01:12:00 -
[69]
Originally by: Sir JoJo
Originally by: Shiwan Khan please add a mark in HLW-HP for Imperium vs 5.
HLW??? ROFLMAO
Only planet II and III
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Darkrydar
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Posted - 2005.07.18 02:13:00 -
[70]
Originally by: Angelus X
Originally by: Shiviara
If there isnt a war sign put on five space then it is more than obvious this map maker is biased.
This is the kind of alt trolling bull- that got the map temporarily removed last time. Nobody cares for the opinion of an alt.
Anue cant post with his mains.
OMG, WE'RE UBER (POS KILLS for the nubs) |
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Darkrydar
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Posted - 2005.07.18 02:14:00 -
[71]
Edited by: Darkrydar on 18/07/2005 02:15:27
Originally by: Shiwan Khan please add a mark in HLW-HP for Imperium vs 5.
LOL, com'mon dude. Showing up when 90% of 5 is offline for 20 miniutes hardly counts.
Are you trying to 'win' on thed forums to make up for failures ingame?
OMG, WE'RE UBER (POS KILLS for the nubs) |

munchy
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Posted - 2005.07.18 03:49:00 -
[72]
Edited by: munchy on 18/07/2005 03:54:52
Originally by: Light Darkness
Originally by: Joshua Foiritain Edited by: Joshua Foiritain on 14/07/2005 13:18:57
Latest Version: Latest Pending Changes: None.
Older Versions: 14.07.107, 07.07.107.
I would also like to make a list of contacts within each of the alliances, so either leave the contacts for your alliance in this topic or evemail them to me as soon as possible.
a) Only "Light Darkness" or "HeadHunta II" are able to can give Information from the [-V-] Veritas Immortalis Alliance
b) GW is more under [-V-] (and friends) control. Foundation dont stay a fight and most time no "F" member in GW. Only small gangs running from "F" around GW.
c) [-V-] is allied with Tyrell Corp.
Regards /LD
what is the pupose of point b? are you asking for v to have complete 100% control of GW without any contested area given? or would you like the map to be changed back again on the basis that your strongest timezone outblobs ours while we still put up resistance, while maintaining almost complete control over gw in us times.
greatwildlands is contested, that is the way it is, it is way to early to start asking for foundation to lose its claim on the region, contested or not. ---
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Tbone
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Posted - 2005.07.18 05:07:00 -
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TRS and Tundragons own syndicate and outer ring. need to make changes there. we own it and it is ours. -----------------------------------------------
Unholy Killboard
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Zhuge Liang

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Posted - 2005.07.18 11:08:00 -
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Stop the trolling please.
joshua can you post to what point you need deletion so something important is not removed.
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Joshua Foiritain
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Posted - 2005.07.18 11:20:00 -
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Posts 3-59 as well as 62 and 63 can be deleted.  ------------------
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DrunkenOne
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Posted - 2005.07.18 11:24:00 -
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Originally by: Tbone TRS and Tundragons own syndicate and outer ring. need to make changes there. we own it and it is ours.
Recently flew from PF- to 4C- and the only group we saw was TRS, who attempted to chase us down. Note this was during NA hours, during Euro hours tundragons are there. So basically yeah they own it.
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thoth foc
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Posted - 2005.07.18 11:50:00 -
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Edited by: thoth foc on 18/07/2005 11:50:55 You could also add a [5] v RA to cache, but we pretty much fight anywhere from hed-gp->cache..
we also have various friggie gank squads in and around our area from time 2 time, FIX and Foundation mostly atm, but no major opposition apart from RA
--thoth
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myggan
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Posted - 2005.07.18 12:34:00 -
[78]
isnt it time to put Fountain under confested space
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Avalon Beholder
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Posted - 2005.07.18 13:26:00 -
[79]
One glance at the five killboard shows 3 things:
We are firmly in control both against IMP and the northern skirmish groups.
90% of the fighting with the northerners is in HED in Catch which is a good 6 jumps from the edge of .5. space, and furthermore .5. win almost all of those fights.
.5. vs RA is occuring mostly in Wicked Creek, Innsmother and around JLO. It wouldnt be unreasonable to put a warzone there, although the fighting is low intensity for the most part
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Nez Perces
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Posted - 2005.07.18 13:43:00 -
[80]
hmmm still cant get the link to josh's great map to work....dead link for me
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Blacklight
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Posted - 2005.07.18 14:35:00 -
[81]
Originally by: myggan isnt it time to put Fountain under confested space
I think JF has plans to objectively verify the current situation, which should lead to less flammage on here and is therefore greatly apreciated.
Eve Blacklight Style
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John Blackthorn
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Posted - 2005.07.18 15:21:00 -
[82]
Awsome map! Thanks!
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Grimster
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Posted - 2005.07.18 17:03:00 -
[83]
Just for you Nez:
The Map For Nez
Toodle Pip
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Nez Perces
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Posted - 2005.07.18 17:17:00 -
[84]
Originally by: Grimster Just for you Nez:
The Map For Nez
Toodle Pip
Thx buddy 
And now that i can see the map ..... I would say that the demarcation of a pirate infestation in FIX is erroneous.... tbh I wish there was a pirate infestation, but sadly there isnt FIX space is currently devoid of targets....
Thx again grimster, and JF.
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ParMizaN
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Posted - 2005.07.18 19:17:00 -
[85]
Edited by: ParMizaN on 18/07/2005 19:17:23 You may wish to contact a SMASH official as to their incursions into the Geminate: so far it is not remotely contested: BUT it could be fair to put up a warzone. The only area currently seeing any fighting is the chokepoints near the south west of the region to empire.
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Run and fall or stand in line, in the end what's your's is mine |

FalloutBoy
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Posted - 2005.07.18 19:25:00 -
[86]
Edited by: FalloutBoy on 18/07/2005 19:24:55
Originally by: ParMizaN Edited by: ParMizaN on 18/07/2005 19:17:23 You may wish to contact a SMASH official as to their incursions into the Geminate: so far it is not remotely contested: BUT it could be fair to put up a warzone. The only area currently seeing any fighting is the chokepoints near the south west of the region to empire.

so thats where those sneaky little buggers went
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Shiwan Khan
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Posted - 2005.07.18 20:45:00 -
[87]
Originally by: Avalon Beholder One glance at the five killboard shows 3 things:
We are firmly in control both against IMP and the northern skirmish groups.
90% of the fighting with the northerners is in HED in Catch which is a good 6 jumps from the edge of .5. space, and furthermore .5. win almost all of those fights.
.5. vs RA is occuring mostly in Wicked Creek, Innsmother and around JLO. It wouldnt be unreasonable to put a warzone there, although the fighting is low intensity for the most part
HA! Sorry to say but IMP forces run rampant through all of [5] "claimed" space daily. You only wish [5] was winning the war. And, though engagements are won and lost on both sides, not only does this have no bearing on what qualifies as a warzone, but it also shows that at least we are willing to fight outnumered without bringing the outrageous 20+ battleship fleets to force an IMP force of maybe 10 frigs and cruisers off the gate. Occasionally we do bring battleship fleets but those are only met with 2:1 or 3:1 odds in battleships, while the self-proclaimed uber [5] fleet courageously smacktalk us in local for not having the stones to throw our ships into what would surly be a bad situation for us.
Anyway, warzone in [5] space is what the map should protray.
P.S. Tundragon and TRS only wish they could take control of outer ring and syndicate.
2005.06.17 07:15:13 combat Your 1400mm Howitzer Artillery II perfectly strikes Nebba Kenezzer [SNRA], wrecking for 2250.9 damage. |

Darkrydar
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Posted - 2005.07.18 21:11:00 -
[88]
Originally by: Shiwan Khan
Originally by: Avalon Beholder One glance at the five killboard shows 3 things:
We are firmly in control both against IMP and the northern skirmish groups.
90% of the fighting with the northerners is in HED in Catch which is a good 6 jumps from the edge of .5. space, and furthermore .5. win almost all of those fights.
.5. vs RA is occuring mostly in Wicked Creek, Innsmother and around JLO. It wouldnt be unreasonable to put a warzone there, although the fighting is low intensity for the most part
HA! Sorry to say but IMP forces run rampant through all of [5] "claimed" space daily. You only wish [5] was winning the war. And, though engagements are won and lost on both sides, not only does this have no bearing on what qualifies as a warzone, but it also shows that at least we are willing to fight outnumered without bringing the outrageous 20+ battleship fleets to force an IMP force of maybe 10 frigs and cruisers off the gate. Occasionally we do bring battleship fleets but those are only met with 2:1 or 3:1 odds in battleships, while the self-proclaimed uber [5] fleet courageously smacktalk us in local for not having the stones to throw our ships into what would surly be a bad situation for us.
Anyway, warzone in [5] space is what the map should protray.
P.S. Tundragon and TRS only wish they could take control of outer ring and syndicate.
WTS: Darklord's Kool-Aid
OMG, WE'RE UBER (POS KILLS for the nubs) |

thoth foc
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Posted - 2005.07.19 00:55:00 -
[89]
Originally by: Shiwan Khan
HA! Sorry to say but IMP forces run rampant through all of [5] "claimed" space daily.
it's not exactly hard to run and SS though area's u have BM's for, question is how much threat u hold, and currently that is less than foundation, fix but mostly RA are the threat in the area..
Originally by: Shiwan Khan
You only wish [5] was winning the war.
actually mostly we wished you would just fight it rather than talk about it..
Originally by: Shiwan Khan
at least we are willing to fight outnumered without bringing the outrageous 20+ battleship fleets to force an IMP force of maybe 10 frigs and cruisers off the gate.
Hed-gp isnt isnt [5] claim area, camping there is hardly making curse a warzone.
Originally by: Shiwan Khan
Occasionally we do bring battleship fleets but those are only met with 2:1 or 3:1 odds in battleships
At which point you promptly safe spot. Your forces are closer to gate campers/pirates and this is the same in all 0.0
Originally by: Shiwan Khan
P.S. Tundragon and TRS only wish they could take control of outer ring and syndicate.

Anyways, as i said above i agree recently [5] space has been a warzone, a war with RA. The fighting is moving farther east as is goes on, but it is still going on. If Imp want to claim they have been helping RA, it hasnt been during euro times.
--thoth
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pershphanie
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Posted - 2005.07.19 03:39:00 -
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Edited by: pershphanie on 19/07/2005 03:40:22 The UnioN is now know as The Forsaken Empire. FE now holds tribute, Vale, and Germinate. There is no territorial dispute. |
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DoctorGonzo
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Posted - 2005.07.19 08:08:00 -
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Originally by: pershphanie Edited by: pershphanie on 19/07/2005 03:40:22 The UnioN is now know as The Forsaken Empire. FE now holds tribute, Vale, and Germinate. There is no territorial dispute.
There's something strangely comforting knowing that FE controls Tribute, Vale and Germinate. Although enemies, I know all is right in the galaxy with FE in those regions!
Black Nova Corporation COO
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ParMizaN
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Posted - 2005.07.19 10:46:00 -
[92]
Originally by: pershphanie Edited by: pershphanie on 19/07/2005 03:40:22 The UnioN is now know as The Forsaken Empire. FE now holds tribute, Vale, and Germinate. There is no territorial dispute.
why didnt i get the memo :| ------------------
Run and fall or stand in line, in the end what's your's is mine |

thoth foc
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Posted - 2005.07.19 11:01:00 -
[93]
Originally by: ParMizaN
why didnt i get the memo :|
memo's are for alts only... 
--thoth
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Joshua Foiritain
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Posted - 2005.07.19 15:10:00 -
[94]
Originally by: Blacklight
Originally by: myggan isnt it time to put Fountain under confested space
I think JF has plans to objectively verify the current situation, which should lead to less flammage on here and is therefore greatly apreciated.
Correct, though im not sure if itll result in less flaming 
But well see.  ------------------
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Grimster
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Posted - 2005.07.19 15:14:00 -
[95]
Originally by: Nez Perces
Originally by: Grimster Just for you Nez:
The Map For Nez
Toodle Pip
Thx buddy 
And now that i can see the map ..... I would say that the demarcation of a pirate infestation in FIX is erroneous.... tbh I wish there was a pirate infestation, but sadly there isnt FIX space is currently devoid of targets....
Thx again grimster, and JF.
Same link again Nez
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Joshua Foiritain
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Posted - 2005.07.19 15:19:00 -
[96]
Edited by: Joshua Foiritain on 19/07/2005 15:19:03
Originally by: Grimster
Originally by: Nez Perces
Originally by: Grimster Just for you Nez:
The Map For Nez
Toodle Pip
Thx buddy 
And now that i can see the map ..... I would say that the demarcation of a pirate infestation in FIX is erroneous.... tbh I wish there was a pirate infestation, but sadly there isnt FIX space is currently devoid of targets....
Thx again grimster, and JF.
Same link again Nez
Just wondering; Can you reach www.eve-files.com Nez? ------------------
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Nez Perces
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Posted - 2005.07.19 15:43:00 -
[97]
Edited by: Nez Perces on 19/07/2005 15:43:56
Originally by: Joshua Foiritain
Just wondering; Can you reach www.eve-files.com Nez?
funnily enough i cannot... hmmmm ....and thx again grimster.. you are quickly becoming my favourite BoBster 
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Chowdown
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Posted - 2005.07.19 15:44:00 -
[98]
Edited by: Chowdown on 19/07/2005 15:44:32 Josh trying to side step some of the flaming etc. I would like to invite you to the curse region, I'm happy to show you around and if we can find any imperium I will be quite heppy with the contested sign over curse.
A slightly better way of displaying the map I feel would be to show HED-GP as a contested area. This system regularly fluxes between opposing sides. However at the end of the day Imperium, PA and whoever else they have in at the moment tend to go back to agil. Where as we tend to HED back to HLW.
Where I sit on my Dark Throne in 6/10, can I have a gang please 
P.S. Other than that excellent job.
New Shinra Kill system, please be patient were still ironing out the finer points!! |

StiZum Hilidii
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Posted - 2005.07.19 15:55:00 -
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Edited by: StiZum Hilidii on 19/07/2005 15:56:37 would agree that it would be more accurate to designate imp as pirate entity and show this as a pirate point in hed, nowt else
and hed as we all know is stain space STAN
FACTA NON VERBA
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Joshua Foiritain
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Posted - 2005.07.19 16:54:00 -
[100]
Originally by: Chowdown Edited by: Chowdown on 19/07/2005 15:44:32 Josh trying to side step some of the flaming etc. I would like to invite you to the curse region, I'm happy to show you around and if we can find any imperium I will be quite heppy with the contested sign over curse.
A slightly better way of displaying the map I feel would be to show HED-GP as a contested area. This system regularly fluxes between opposing sides. However at the end of the day Imperium, PA and whoever else they have in at the moment tend to go back to agil. Where as we tend to HED back to HLW.
Where I sit on my Dark Throne in 6/10, can I have a gang please 
P.S. Other than that excellent job.
*Que Omnius music* I've already got eyes in HLW/Curse, though i cant say ive ever seen any imps or their friends. ------------------
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Chowdown
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Posted - 2005.07.19 16:59:00 -
[101]
Edited by: Chowdown on 19/07/2005 17:00:24
Originally by: Joshua Foiritain
Originally by: Chowdown Edited by: Chowdown on 19/07/2005 15:44:32 Josh trying to side step some of the flaming etc. I would like to invite you to the curse region, I'm happy to show you around and if we can find any imperium I will be quite heppy with the contested sign over curse.
A slightly better way of displaying the map I feel would be to show HED-GP as a contested area. This system regularly fluxes between opposing sides. However at the end of the day Imperium, PA and whoever else they have in at the moment tend to go back to agil. Where as we tend to HED back to HLW.
Where I sit on my Dark Throne in 6/10, can I have a gang please 
P.S. Other than that excellent job.
*Que Omnius music* I've already got eyes in HLW/Curse, though i cant say ive ever seen any imps or their friends.
Can we have it revised in the next version then.
New Shinra Kill system, please be patient were still ironing out the finer points!! |

General Killah
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Posted - 2005.07.19 17:10:00 -
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Originally by: ParMizaN Edited by: ParMizaN on 18/07/2005 19:17:23 You may wish to contact a SMASH official as to their incursions into the Geminate: so far it is not remotely contested: BUT it could be fair to put up a warzone. The only area currently seeing any fighting is the chokepoints near the south west of the region to empire.

Agreed, no need for contested yet, things haven't geared up yet. May need it in near future. ---------------------------------
(\_/) (O.o) (> <) This is Bunny. Copy Bunny into your signature to help him on his way to world domination. |

The Enslaver
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Posted - 2005.07.19 23:39:00 -
[103]
Also, [5] currently hold Insmother and Wicked Creek (feel free to check this also ).
Cache is under attack by multiple forces, and is contested by [5].
That just about covers it. Thanks Joshie  --------
FireFoxx80: If you think you can do a better job, go find yourself a datacentre to host a box, get a copy of Visual Studio, and STFU. |

Balistic Void
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Posted - 2005.07.19 23:41:00 -
[104]
Hey you took our "Pirate Infestation" tag away :( *cries*
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Shiwan Khan
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Posted - 2005.07.20 00:18:00 -
[105]
Originally by: thoth foc
Originally by: Shiwan Khan
HA! Sorry to say but IMP forces run rampant through all of [5] "claimed" space daily.
it's not exactly hard to run and SS though area's u have BM's for, question is how much threat u hold, and currently that is less than foundation, fix but mostly RA are the threat in the area..
Originally by: Shiwan Khan
You only wish [5] was winning the war.
actually mostly we wished you would just fight it rather than talk about it..
Originally by: Shiwan Khan
at least we are willing to fight outnumered without bringing the outrageous 20+ battleship fleets to force an IMP force of maybe 10 frigs and cruisers off the gate.
Hed-gp isnt isnt [5] claim area, camping there is hardly making curse a warzone.
Originally by: Shiwan Khan
Occasionally we do bring battleship fleets but those are only met with 2:1 or 3:1 odds in battleships
At which point you promptly safe spot. Your forces are closer to gate campers/pirates and this is the same in all 0.0
Originally by: Shiwan Khan
P.S. Tundragon and TRS only wish they could take control of outer ring and syndicate.

Anyways, as i said above i agree recently [5] space has been a warzone, a war with RA. The fighting is moving farther east as is goes on, but it is still going on. If Imp want to claim they have been helping RA, it hasnt been during euro times.
Actually, sorry to have to be the one to tell you but we have been fighting you. When numbers/situations allow. We are not stupid, we are not going to try to have a fleet battle when we have 10-15 battleships plus support against a 25+ battleship fleet plus support, especially on your terms.
I never claimed in my post that HED-GP was 5 space.
I really do not understand why a force would not safespot facing a force 3:1 theirs in battleships (not taking into account the ammount of EW your side brings)
2005.06.17 07:15:13 combat Your 1400mm Howitzer Artillery II perfectly strikes Nebba Kenezzer [SNRA], wrecking for 2250.9 damage. |

Avalon Beholder
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Posted - 2005.07.20 00:34:00 -
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Shiwan, In the past 1 month, Xirtam alone has lost 6 BSs to .5. forces
In the same time period, Shinra has lost 5 BSs to Imperium IN TOTAL.
How are we not winning?
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pershphanie
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Posted - 2005.07.20 00:45:00 -
[107]
damn josh. That was a quick map update. GJ dude. |

Avalon Beholder
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Posted - 2005.07.20 01:05:00 -
[108]
Seriously though Josh, mark HED-GP area as a warzone and change the curse one to .5. v RA. IMP do not fight there.
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thoth foc
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Posted - 2005.07.20 01:15:00 -
[109]
Edited by: thoth foc on 20/07/2005 01:17:02
Originally by: Shiwan Khan
Actually, sorry to have to be the one to tell you but we have been fighting you. When numbers/situations allow. We are not stupid, we are not going to try to have a fleet battle when we have 10-15 battleships plus support against a 25+ battleship fleet plus support, especially on your terms.
I never claimed in my post that HED-GP was 5 space.
I really do not understand why a force would not safespot facing a force 3:1 theirs in battleships (not taking into account the ammount of EW your side brings)
From reading the thread looks like the map maker has already discovered your information was misinformed.
And like yourself i dont really understand why your reasons for mostly running to SS when we try to engage, are important to the map making process, the fact you admit it and we confirm it is enough. That omission alone proves you are a pirate force rather than an invading force and the map is meant to represent fact, not postering.
--thoth
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Shiwan Khan
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Posted - 2005.07.20 05:47:00 -
[110]
How are we postering? I am simply giving the facts, granted there were a few sentences in my previous posts that i had halfway intended for smacktalk, and for that i apologize.
However, we are an invading force weather you like it or not. We are roaming around Curse, weather you like it or not. I have spoken my peace and if the mapmaker deems that the information i have given is credable and worth putting a hostile mark in Curse for IMP vs 5 then i am sure he will do so. If not then it will not change what we are doing.
I am sorry for acting immature in this thread. I don't know why but the forums bring out the worst of me, perhaps it is all of the half-truths and the sort but ingame i am a different person.
-Shiwan Khan
2005.06.17 07:15:13 combat Your 1400mm Howitzer Artillery II perfectly strikes Nebba Kenezzer [SNRA], wrecking for 2250.9 damage. |
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Shiwan Khan
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Posted - 2005.07.20 05:49:00 -
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Originally by: Avalon Beholder Shiwan, In the past 1 month, Xirtam alone has lost 6 BSs to .5. forces
In the same time period, Shinra has lost 5 BSs to Imperium IN TOTAL.
How are we not winning?
Xirt looses BS's because he is probably the most known person in eve and blinks bright red in any engagement, plus he has a nasty habbit of trying to stay in the fight a bit longer than he should lol.
I do not know if your numbers are correct or not, but w/e its just a forum.
2005.06.17 07:15:13 combat Your 1400mm Howitzer Artillery II perfectly strikes Nebba Kenezzer [SNRA], wrecking for 2250.9 damage. |

P1rate Dave
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Posted - 2005.07.20 05:58:00 -
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too lazy to read what shiwan wrote but as well as imperium pa is operating in catch and curse
also mass is attacking outerring fighting with the remaining imp forces in the area
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Faust Revis
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Posted - 2005.07.20 07:33:00 -
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Really, we [imperium, PA, ect] have been in and out of curse for weeks[dont over blow this one] now. We dont fight there to claim it, we just try to stir things up a bit and blow stuff up. When we are able to make a combat move into curse space, fight, kill, get killed, ect, its a warzone between us (and allies of ours actually) and the 5 guys.
Hed-gp is always a warzone, never fully controlled by anybody. i know ALL ex-CA know tihs. so make it a big ol fat red spot/hazard sign permanently and save the trouble in the future
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thoth foc
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Posted - 2005.07.20 08:02:00 -
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Originally by: Joshua Foiritain *Que Omnius music* I've already got eyes in HLW/Curse, though i cant say ive ever seen any imps or their friends.
Can the Imp guys stop with the "we're in curse, honest we are" arguements, the map maker has already stated he hasnt seen u.
As for disputing ownership of HED-GP, camping choke points has never got any more recognition than a pirate make, which we fully agree with for HED.
--thoth
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Chowdown
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Posted - 2005.07.20 08:21:00 -
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Edited by: Chowdown on 20/07/2005 08:23:04
Lets not mke Joshs job to hard to early, it will allways be a heated debate, but as he says he is watching the area thus I'm sure he will draw his own fair and accurate conclusions.
New Shinra Kill system, please be patient were still ironing out the finer points!! |

ParMizaN
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Posted - 2005.07.20 10:33:00 -
[116]
Edited by: ParMizaN on 20/07/2005 10:33:43
Originally by: P1rate Dave F-e and union
try tribute,vale and geminate
Road trip finished ages ago. ------------------
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Joshua Foiritain
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Posted - 2005.07.20 12:00:00 -
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Ive updated the Map, the curse marker will be updated soonish.
Chokepoint icons have been added, so far only on HED-GP and PF-346. If any other chokepoints are still randomly claimed/controlled by various factions or pirates feel free to submit them. I havent used most of them since the NWO so i really wouldnt know  ------------------
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Balistic Void
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Posted - 2005.07.20 12:41:00 -
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Yeah, can IMP ppl plz stop using FE for propaganda purposes? We went on a roadtrip 2 weeks ago, and that was it. We aren't invading 5 space.
Also, Xelas alliance have been destroyed, plz transfer Tenal to FE ownership. kthnx :)
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FireFoxx80
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Posted - 2005.07.20 12:52:00 -
[119]
Since when had UNION and F-E merged again?
ex: P-TMC |

Balistic Void
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Posted - 2005.07.20 12:58:00 -
[120]
Since yesterday? I dunno tbh, I wake up one morning and Union ppl are spamming some new mailbox I have...
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ParMizaN
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Posted - 2005.07.20 13:19:00 -
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Originally by: Balistic Void Also, Xelas alliance have been destroyed, plz transfer Tenal to FE ownership. kthnx :)
get back to your caravan >.< ------------------
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DrunkenOne
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Posted - 2005.07.20 14:59:00 -
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Edited by: DrunkenOne on 20/07/2005 15:00:49 Just a question: If [5] are "blobbing" and "outnumbering" you (read: about even odds), and you are smartly avoiding engaging [5]forces, wouldn't that mean that your invasion has failed and you actually aren't contesting curse? I mean to me contesting Curse means like... fighting... Hell, even if [5] was outblobbing you with 50-1 odds and forcing you to safespot every day, wouldn't that mean the area isn't contested, as you would basically be a nonentity?
Not saying that you guys haven't killed anything or that you aren't around every now and then, but claiming "we contest curse" in the same post as "you blob us and force us to safespot/log" doesn't make much sense.
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Balistic Void
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Posted - 2005.07.20 15:13:00 -
[123]
Yeah pulling a "fountain" isn't a legitimate way of claiming space.
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CT BadIronTree
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Posted - 2005.07.20 15:46:00 -
[124]
there is a bug in the map lol
you forgot to put the number 5 :P
oups lol
coalision vs imprioum ============================================ Colossus Technologies The first and oldest corp in eve! BadIronTree Head of Production
CSM Chat Log September 25, 2003: Fuhry> Some things we simply cannot test, and therefore we just put it on Tranq. cross our fingers and then get into panic mode. --------------------------------------- playing (or beta testing)since Sat, 2 Nov 2002 16:06 (beta 5) ---------------------------------------
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P1rate Dave
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Posted - 2005.07.20 17:18:00 -
[125]
Edited by: P1rate Dave on 20/07/2005 17:19:10
Originally by: Balistic Void Yeah, can IMP ppl plz stop using FE for propaganda purposes? We went on a roadtrip 2 weeks ago, and that was it. We aren't invading 5 space.
what propaganda? i never said you were invading curse i sad you were operating in the area meaning you have pilots fighting here which is true, i was flying with some of them last night 
edit: also imperium and friends are not contesting curse (yet ) but we are fighting in the region
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Zandramus
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Posted - 2005.07.20 17:48:00 -
[126]
Edited by: Zandramus on 20/07/2005 17:50:44
Originally by: General Killah
Originally by: ParMizaN Edited by: ParMizaN on 18/07/2005 19:17:23 You may wish to contact a SMASH official as to their incursions into the Geminate: so far it is not remotely contested: BUT it could be fair to put up a warzone. The only area currently seeing any fighting is the chokepoints near the south west of the region to empire.

Agreed, no need for contested yet, things haven't geared up yet. May need it in near future.
Bring help, and lots of tech 2 gear. Geminate is in need of a clensing and im getting out my broom scouring pad and tech 2 wire brush.
Zandramus Homeless And Clueless S.A.S
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Drilla
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Posted - 2005.07.20 21:47:00 -
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Originally by: Faust Revis we [imperium, PA, ect] have been in and out of curse for weeks[dont over blow this one] now. We dont fight there to claim it
So the space should therefor never be marked as contested and I've seen plenty of pirates in Imperium space so why not add a pirate marker in the center of Imperium space.
Because you venture 10 jumps away from empire to safespot and run back does not constitute 'running rampant around Curse' etc.
EVE System Security - Killboard (still early alpha) |

Balistic Void
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Posted - 2005.07.20 21:58:00 -
[128]
He's being snotty with the pirate infestation stickers. He took ours away ffs :(
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Joshua Foiritain
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Posted - 2005.07.20 22:37:00 -
[129]
Originally by: Balistic Void He's being snotty with the pirate infestation stickers. He took ours away ffs :(
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ParMizaN
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Posted - 2005.07.20 23:52:00 -
[130]
Originally by: Joshua Foiritain
Originally by: Balistic Void He's being snotty with the pirate infestation stickers. He took ours away ffs :(
Parz told me to 
The gypsies told me to  ------------------
Run and fall or stand in line, in the end what's your's is mine |
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DaHeaVYFo
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Posted - 2005.07.21 01:17:00 -
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Edited by: DaHeaVYFo on 21/07/2005 01:17:51
As a Foundation spectator, there's been alot of Anti-5 alliances invading Curse. G, Pa, Imp, Foundation and Red Alliance + some other corps like CELES etc. Would make it just a Warzone symbol, not contested as of yet.
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Profess0r Mansechs0r
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Posted - 2005.07.21 03:02:00 -
[132]
Originally by: DaHeaVYFo Edited by: DaHeaVYFo on 21/07/2005 01:17:51
As a Foundation spectator, there's been alot of Anti-5 alliances invading Curse. G, Pa, Imp, Foundation and Red Alliance + some other corps like CELES etc. Would make it just a Warzone symbol, not contested as of yet.
Um isnt foundation busy being in empire? How would you know anything about curse, theres NEVER been foundation in curse, even when you were at your height.
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Shiviara
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Posted - 2005.07.21 09:09:00 -
[133]
Edited by: Shiviara on 21/07/2005 09:10:04
Originally by: Joshua Foritain
Latest Version: Latest Pending Changes: Assigning to the Warzone sign in Curse to either IMP, RA or removing it depending on scout results. Recent Changes: Curse Marked as Warzone, Choke Point Icons added for Chokepoints which are camped by many diffrent factions/pirates.
http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=203523
Originally by: JimmySav Heroic Pilots from Imperium and other allied forces have been 'invading' curse, pushing deep into HED-GP. [5] promises normal service will be resumed soon.
Originally by: DaHeaVYFo Edited by: DaHeaVYFo on 21/07/2005 01:17:51 As a Foundation spectator, there's been alot of Anti-5 alliances invading Curse. G, Pa, Imp, Foundation and Red Alliance + some other corps like CELES etc. Would make it just a Warzone symbol, not contested as of yet.
Any more needed?
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Gradinger
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Posted - 2005.07.21 09:37:00 -
[134]
Originally by: StiZum Hilidii ..and hed as we all know is stain space
sry, afaik HED is not claimed by the STAIN EMPIRE, but i¦m no politician nor representative so if it¦s important for u RF and u wanna know for sure contact an SE-official-guy plz :)
anyway it¦s shown as a chokepoint and i think that¦s fine and points it out quite good...
congrats to the update-frequency... and thx
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Cloned Mark
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Posted - 2005.07.21 11:17:00 -
[135]
M. Corp are usually seen running rampant through Great Wildlands along side their allies Veritas Immortalis. As M. Corp are now a member of The Five, a [5] Vs Foundation ticker should be added to Great Wildlands. -----------------------------
M. Corp |

The Enslaver
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Posted - 2005.07.21 11:41:00 -
[136]
[5] Control Insmother atm (no resistance), with Wicked Creek being controlled almost totally by [5] with some slight RA resistance.
Cache is also a warzone with a large number of [5] attacks in the area. --------
FireFoxx80: If you think you can do a better job, go find yourself a datacentre to host a box, get a copy of Visual Studio, and STFU. |

Voltex
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Posted - 2005.07.21 12:40:00 -
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Slight issue about wednesdays update, The tribute, vale and germinate regions. It says that all these regions are controlled by Forsaken Empire, this is wrong.
Forsaken empire does not control Tribute, Generals of destruction syndicate do. If you are refering to the new forsaken empire alliance controlling this space then it is correct but you muct change the name on the map to 'The Forsaken Empire' ( the alliance) not 'Forsaken Empire' ( the corp ).
God i'm fussy 
'Your 250mm Carbide completely misses Guristas Annihilator, Doing 0 damage'
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Zandramus
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Posted - 2005.07.21 13:00:00 -
[138]
Edited by: Zandramus on 21/07/2005 13:00:08 Please put a War Zone over Geminate, as S.A.S / VOC are moving to clense Geminate of the new Forsaken Empire Alliance that chose their new Foundation friends over the poeple who origionally took Geminate and helped them re-take Vale.
Let the Scouring of Geminate Begin.
Zandramus Cleansing Geminate of the Backstabbers. S.A.S
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juduzz
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Posted - 2005.07.21 13:16:00 -
[139]
Originally by: Voltex Slight issue about wednesdays update, The tribute, vale and germinate regions. It says that all these regions are controlled by Forsaken Empire, this is wrong.
Forsaken empire does not control Tribute, Generals of destruction syndicate do. If you are refering to the new forsaken empire alliance controlling this space then it is correct but you muct change the name on the map to 'The Forsaken Empire' ( the alliance) not 'Forsaken Empire' ( the corp ).
God i'm fussy 
Voltex pls dont make official posts on the map for GODS or FE alliance, We are allied with FE the corp under the forsaken empire alliance flag but a "the" dosnt make **** all difference TBH. ---------------------------------------------- My vid(s) http://www.eve-files.com/media/07/VIDSKIE.wmv |

Profess0r Mansechs0r
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Posted - 2005.07.21 13:41:00 -
[140]
Apparently a large part of foundation has now left and joined the new forsaken empire alliance.
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Dianabolic
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Posted - 2005.07.21 14:16:00 -
[141]
Originally by: Zandramus Edited by: Zandramus on 21/07/2005 13:00:08 Please put a War Zone over Geminate, as S.A.S / VOC are moving to clense Geminate of the new Forsaken Empire Alliance that chose their new Foundation friends over the poeple who origionally took Geminate and helped them re-take Vale.
Let the Scouring of Geminate Begin.
hehehe.
It's like the circle, the ciiiircle of LIFE!
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Robotek Hybrid
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Posted - 2005.07.21 16:13:00 -
[142]
Originally by: Zandramus Edited by: Zandramus on 21/07/2005 13:00:08 Please put a War Zone over Geminate, as S.A.S / VOC are moving to clense Geminate of the new Forsaken Empire Alliance that chose their new Foundation friends over the poeple who origionally took Geminate and helped them re-take Vale.
Let the Scouring of Geminate Begin.
Theres already one there.
ps. you should keep the jihad talk out of this thread. --------------------------------------------
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Light Darkness
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Posted - 2005.07.21 17:13:00 -
[143]
Great Wildlands is NO contested space anymore.
Over 20 hours per day -V- and friends control Great Wildland space. Only a few ships or small gangs running from Foundation across GW and they dont stay for a fight.
So.
Great Wildlands claimed by [-V-] Veritas Immortalis
Regards /LD ---------------------------------------------------------- *[- V -]-Fleet Admiral*
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munchy
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Posted - 2005.07.21 17:36:00 -
[144]
Originally by: Light Darkness Great Wildlands is NO contested space anymore.
Over 20 hours per day -V- and friends control Great Wildland space. Only a few ships or small gangs running from Foundation across GW and they dont stay for a fight.
So.
Great Wildlands claimed by [-V-] Veritas Immortalis
Regards /LD
maybe he should come down to gw at various time periods and take a look, anyone can say they claim a region. look i claim scalding pass, i have seen no resistance from 5 its all mine now.
so maybe he should send an alt down or something and log it on every now and then and see how many hours you really control it ---
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Light Darkness
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Posted - 2005.07.21 17:43:00 -
[145]
Edited by: Light Darkness on 21/07/2005 17:52:38 @munchy
We stay near 3 month in GW. Foundation leave GW.The presence from "F" goes down and really no activitys from "F" there. We fought and stay in GW most time (~near 20 hours) and really no "defence" activity from "F"!
So. - We came for 3 month into GW. - We fight since 3 month in GW. - We stay in GW. - We claim GW!
Regards /LD ---------------------------------------------------------- *[- V -]-Fleet Admiral*
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Enosh Kerrim
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Posted - 2005.07.21 18:39:00 -
[146]
well some foundation are still in gw,but hiding behind forcefields or on supersavespots isnt the same like controling a region.Only single persons like gauss beloid ,munchy,heikki,traxx and soul dancer are fighting in gw(its a pitty i know all the names cause they¦re only a couple). in fact no1 try to keep us away from gw ,no camps at chokepoints no outblobbing in euro time zone nothing i would call restistance.Sure F can sit it out on save in empire(most of them ) amd try to bore the enemy¦s away( this might work) but shouldnt rewarded by own territory on worldmap. I hope josh takes really sends an alt or something to check gw like an f member suggested it.
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The Enslaver
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Posted - 2005.07.21 18:54:00 -
[147]
Red Alliance have withdrawn pilots from Wicked Creek. Wicked Creek and Insmother are now uncontested space, held by [5].
[5] and Collective are actively engaging RA in Cache. --------
FireFoxx80: If you think you can do a better job, go find yourself a datacentre to host a box, get a copy of Visual Studio, and STFU. |

Uncle Chuckles
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Posted - 2005.07.21 19:02:00 -
[148]
The fact that 1/2 of foundation has just moved to a new region and joined a new alliance pretty much says it all about resistance in GW.
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munchy
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Posted - 2005.07.21 19:26:00 -
[149]
LD, all i said was that he should come to gw and check it out, not just euro timezones, but US timezones too, spend a day down here and see what its really like, 20 hours a day is just not the reality, you control it for about 4/5 hours a day.
uncle chuckles, that was a few corporations out of many, i would hardly call that half our alliance. ---
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HeadHunta II
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Posted - 2005.07.21 19:31:00 -
[150]
Edited by: HeadHunta II on 21/07/2005 19:35:13
Originally by: munchy
maybe he should come down to gw at various time periods and take a look, anyone can say they claim a region. look i claim scalding pass, i have seen no resistance from 5 its all mine now.
so maybe he should send an alt down or something and log it on every now and then and see how many hours you really control it
munchy, i wont be unfair or flame Foundation, i even like most of you guys, but honestly you are not defending GW anymore. You have your 3-4 POS¦s or even more in the area and are mainly arround these systems only to supply it or whatever. In my opinion defending and area with gangs and attacking enemys constantly will result in being able to control an area after time. To just sit in some systems at a POS, or stick the nose into the highways to run away if there are more enemys, or doing single raids on lonly ppl is just pirating for me. Defending my claimed space would mean imo i would do anything to kick enemys out of my space, with permanent pressure. There is no pressure from "Foundation" side, since quiet a while now.
Also you said that you are mainly active in the american timezones, fact is i was very active lately in these american timzones, because i wanted to find out if this is true and i saw not more activity. From 8.00 in the morning to nearly 4.00 the next morning you call 4/5 hours?? (Euro Time) I have no work atm :( so i have pretty much time to play eve and i did nearly everyday the last time to the named times. I saw no changes. To just sit with alts at stations or with the main on a safespot trying nothing at all, just to be there isnt the way to defend something.
Honestly, i respect everyone of Foundation and ill leave it up to CCP, the mapmaker or whoever is able to decide who will get the space ppl want to claim but there should be at least defence to say, its contested space. This is here not the case and i know it cause i am online every day and bored to hell mainly. An alliance is in your space since 3 months now, controlling it mainly without nearly no defence or attemps to be forced out. I can hardly remember the last big fleet fight we had.
If there will be rules onetime to set who is able to claim something i will be glad to accept them, since right now its hard to say who has the right to claim something. But in this case i think V def. deserves it if i look whats going on lately in GW. I will respect any decision done by the map maker, CCP, or whoever else since single persons like me or munchy cant decide.
This was not a flame or a try to make others look bad, this is the view of me and V and pure facts, we saw lately.
"-V- Vice President" "-V- Minister of Foreign affairs" "CEO Ascendancy-Inc."
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Shayla Sh'inlux
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Posted - 2005.07.21 20:35:00 -
[151]
Defending a region from Sniperfleets that safespot and call on their atuk friends when they meet equal numbers is pretty pointless isn't it?
Sure LD you claim the area. You're happy now?
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Avatar Ashlee
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Posted - 2005.07.21 20:45:00 -
[152]
Outerring and Syndicate should be shown as Trundragun/teddybear/TRS controlled
Move imp to HED-GP or Agil
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Kerby Lane
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Posted - 2005.07.22 01:07:00 -
[153]
Originally by: Shayla Sh'inlux Defending a region from Sniperfleets that safespot and call on their atuk friends when they meet equal numbers is pretty pointless isn't it?
Sure LD you claim the area. You're happy now?
Sniperfleets ?
Last engagement with Millenium fleet was at close range as far as remember  Do you have any dates when Mil. or F. fleet tried to engage V with equal numbers and V run ?
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Aegis Osiris
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Posted - 2005.07.22 02:25:00 -
[154]
Edited by: Aegis Osiris on 22/07/2005 02:27:24 First off, I am not a member of Foundation, however I do consider myself friendly to them. I am also mostly a US timezone player, though I've managed to get on a few times during peak Euro times.
The statements that V have been in GW for 3 months are somewhat exaggerated. I came to GW about 3 months ago, and when I arrived, though there was certainly fighting, Foundation appeared to me to have more overall control. V mainly (though not always) used long range snipers to harass in and around E02. Generally, if V 'controlled' anything at all, it was E02 or BVIP, and only for a few hours before Foundation numbers increased again.
This is certainly 'contested', but not controlled, and most V members didnt seem to stay in GW, but went to Scalding Pass or Insmother (one of them, I forget which).
As with all things, there is an ebb and flow. I can say that Foundation has, for a few weeks at least, been in something of an ebb. Foundation corps still reside in GW, and there is still the will to fight, if not always the numbers. Generally, V at this time is able to muster more pilots for a fight.
Again, ebb and flow. It may be that Foundation continues to ebb. Or, it may be that Foundation will rally once again. That is really up to Foundation. I for one hope for the latter, there are good people there that I've gotten to know :)
Until there is a clear ending, and not just a lull, I'd say leave it contested. Better to be sure then be hasty.
But that's just my opinion. I could be wrong. (heh...)
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Shayla Sh'inlux
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Posted - 2005.07.22 11:08:00 -
[155]
Edited by: Shayla Sh''inlux on 22/07/2005 11:08:03
Originally by: Kerby Lane
Originally by: Shayla Sh'inlux Defending a region from Sniperfleets that safespot and call on their atuk friends when they meet equal numbers is pretty pointless isn't it?
Sure LD you claim the area. You're happy now?
Sniperfleets ?
Last engagement with Millenium fleet was at close range as far as remember  Do you have any dates when Mil. or F. fleet tried to engage V with equal numbers and V run ?
Yeah if you can call that an engagement, sure. That was more like NPC'ing for you with about triple our numbers because we happened to run into each other where neither of us expected hostiles.
Of course I don't have dates. I do know I have been spending hours and hours and hours probing small groups of V battleships aligned at speed towards something. I have had a covert on one of your ships dozens of times only to see it warp out the second I tell my 2 gangmates to warp on TS. Countless times I've tried to get a 3-4 men strong gang to engage an equal gang of yours. But no, hours passed and slowly the V numbers growed to blob-size. Then M-corp joins in the fun and you can parade around eo2 and M-M for a bit. Bored yet?
Also, can you say 6 WCS Tempest? That's not controlling the area mate. That's sitting at a station ganking frigates, ready to warp off and when someone wants to fight. That's called having a fleet in local eo2 (like last night) with a 20-men strong ATUK fleet sitting behind you in NK-7 (again, like last night) while my corp is happily fueling the PoS, running missions in M-M and NPC'ing in other systems. What are you trying to accomplish anyway?
But sure, you guys can have the pretty color on the map and have it as offical V alliance space. If that makes you happy by all frigging means. It will only make the defeat more painful.
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thoth foc
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Posted - 2005.07.22 11:20:00 -
[156]
Originally by: Shayla Sh'inlux That's called having a fleet in local eo2 (like last night) with a 20-men strong ATUK fleet sitting behind you in NK-7 (again, like last night)
I was on from about 6pm->3:30am GMT.. can you say "didnt happen" ? We werent even within 20 jumps of there tbh
--thoth
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Light Darkness
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Posted - 2005.07.22 12:57:00 -
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Sry. I wont flame.
But we dont stay a fight without our friends?
Ask Ushra Khan (your new friends) about last night.
And yes. We are happy to claim a space. With our small alliance are mostly all in GW. And from Foundation is a small % in GW. I see only the same small numbers from "F" how munchy, gauss beloid and a few they only stay to fight (salute ).
And back to topic...
... War between -V- and Ushra Khan Alliance now.
Regards
/LD ---------------------------------------------------------- *[- V -]-Fleet Admiral*
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Shayla Sh'inlux
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Posted - 2005.07.22 13:13:00 -
[158]
So now you admit it's a warzone again?
Make up your mind man.
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Tholarim
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Posted - 2005.07.22 13:18:00 -
[159]
Originally by: Shayla Sh'inlux That's called having a fleet in local eo2 (like last night) with a 20-men strong ATUK fleet sitting behind you in NK-7
You must be on some drugs there. Since we were in cache yesterday. V controlls GW. Simple as that.
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Pylse
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Posted - 2005.07.22 13:47:00 -
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It might just be me... but i think saying that Catch, upper catch that is, HED-GP - U-QVWD - D87 should not be listed as claimed by anyone? It has way too much traffic and way too much fighting (or atleast had) to be "claimed"
Catch, save southern catch, should never be claimed in my opinion =P
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zoolkhan
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Posted - 2005.07.22 14:30:00 -
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...sometimes people get fired upon while travelling to their brethren from the thukker tribe. Its is those times when even a charismatic commander cannot hold back some pilots from fight.
whenever somebody manage to down one of ours, he is hitting ressources of the rebellion, the freedom fight. Fortunately the stream of recruits is endless, this lies in the nature of our fight, the fact that we liberated and still liberate thousands of thousand of our kin.
if you now think its the right time to celebrate the kill of few of ours - very well - history books will be written later..
<from the "statements and lections" of the kla'lab;monks of the fist #281>
regards, v.Adm. ZoolKhan; W're Ushra'Khan - we come for our people!
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Profess0r Mansechs0r
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Posted - 2005.07.22 14:40:00 -
[162]
Originally by: Tholarim
Originally by: Shayla Sh'inlux That's called having a fleet in local eo2 (like last night) with a 20-men strong ATUK fleet sitting behind you in NK-7
You must be on some drugs there. Since we were in cache yesterday. V controlls GW. Simple as that.
Foundation apparently also suffers from the IMP disease. Next we will hear them claim that after being safespotted in B-VIP with 3 ships for a week, they are in fact invading curse and owning [5].
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FireFoxx80
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Posted - 2005.07.22 15:09:00 -
[163]
latest version of map I get is marked 20.7.5
ex: P-TMC | USAC |

Joshua Foiritain
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Posted - 2005.07.22 15:31:00 -
[164]
Originally by: FireFoxx80 latest version of map I get is marked 20.7.5
So is mine  ------------------
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The Enslaver
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Posted - 2005.07.22 15:39:00 -
[165]
Joshua,
All RA have withdrawn from Insmother and Wicked Creek. All stations in them are now owned by [5] (Please check corp info's of the corps in [5] to confirm this).
Cache is now a heavily contested region, as you will find if you actually visit it.
Curse has a light enemy force during 2/3 hours of the day, during most timezones the region is clear.
I'd have thought you'd have managed to confirm this by now  --------
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sapage1
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Posted - 2005.07.22 15:58:00 -
[166]
As said once before, MASS is no longer in Outer-Ring, they can be seen in small groups in orvolle but thats it. ___________________________________________________
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Razor Jaxx
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Posted - 2005.07.22 16:42:00 -
[167]
Just wanted to give you props for a doing such a top job with the map, Joshua.
The graphic layout, icons, typefont choice, etc are brilliant, and the updates are frequent and regular.
Congrats. 
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Joshua Foiritain
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Posted - 2005.07.22 18:30:00 -
[168]
Originally by: The Enslaver Joshua,
All RA have withdrawn from Insmother and Wicked Creek. All stations in them are now owned by [5] (Please check corp info's of the corps in [5] to confirm this).
Cache is now a heavily contested region, as you will find if you actually visit it.
Curse has a light enemy force during 2/3 hours of the day, during most timezones the region is clear.
I'd have thought you'd have managed to confirm this by now 
I notoiced the Stations in RA space and i still havent seen any actuall IMP's in Curse. I did see a bunch of IMPs die in curse on the Five killboard though. 
Ive been waiting for a BOB to sort out stuff for my Fountain inspection, but since i got no replies there ill be moving into GW tommorow (Currently in Curse) to check that region out first.
Since RA only has PCS their space is fairly easy to contest so it will be marked contested soon enough (Busy day), assuming 5 stays in control in the stations of course  ------------------
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sapage1
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Posted - 2005.07.22 22:01:00 -
[169]
Originally by: Joshua Foiritain
Originally by: The Enslaver Joshua,
All RA have withdrawn from Insmother and Wicked Creek. All stations in them are now owned by [5] (Please check corp info's of the corps in [5] to confirm this).
Cache is now a heavily contested region, as you will find if you actually visit it.
Curse has a light enemy force during 2/3 hours of the day, during most timezones the region is clear.
I'd have thought you'd have managed to confirm this by now 
I notoiced the Stations in RA space and i still havent seen any actuall IMP's in Curse. I did see a bunch of IMPs die in curse on the Five killboard though. 
Ive been waiting for a BOB to sort out stuff for my Fountain inspection, but since i got no replies there ill be moving into GW tommorow (Currently in Curse) to check that region out first.
Since RA only has PCS their space is fairly easy to contest so it will be marked contested soon enough (Busy day), assuming 5 stays in control in the stations of course 
I dont mean to lucture you on how to do your job but, it would be quite practical for you to retain profesional ethics while you post in this thread.
ie: no "I did see a bunch of IMPs die in curse on the Five killboard though"
Its quite a worry when you start to show bias, however minor.
Sorry i didnt mean to be offensive and i hope you didnt take it that way.
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Joshua Foiritain
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Posted - 2005.07.22 22:37:00 -
[170]
Edited by: Joshua Foiritain on 22/07/2005 22:39:05
Originally by: sapage1 I dont mean to lucture you on how to do your job but, it would be quite practical for you to retain profesional ethics while you post in this thread.
ie: no "I did see a bunch of IMPs die in curse on the Five killboard though"
Its quite a worry when you start to show bias, however minor.
Sorry i didnt mean to be offensive and i hope you didnt take it that way.
If it wasnt for those IMP's dieing i wouldnt have made Curse a warzone as i have yet to see any myself, the five killboard however does show several of dieing, which obviously means theyre there  No worries, who dies in what region (As long as it isnt me or my corp) really doesnt bother me in any way, Killboards however are a nice tool to see if someone is actually in the region. ------------------
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sapage1
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Posted - 2005.07.22 22:47:00 -
[171]
Edited by: sapage1 on 22/07/2005 22:49:15
Originally by: Joshua Foiritain
Originally by: sapage1 I dont mean to lucture you on how to do your job but, it would be quite practical for you to retain profesional ethics while you post in this thread.
ie: no "I did see a bunch of IMPs die in curse on the Five killboard though"
Its quite a worry when you start to show bias, however minor.
Sorry i didnt mean to be offensive and i hope you didnt take it that way.
If it wasnt for those IMP's dieing i wouldnt have made Curse a warzone, which seems to be what Aneu wanted... 
And again this post is not meant as offence, just generally harsh constructive critisism.
I really think you should broaden your view of things, if you only look at the kills then you are allready flawed.
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10
Above are but a few killmails from IMP and affiliated corporations dating back to Friday 15 July 2005(they go back further but i cant be bothered to look).
If you check you will see not all of them are HED-GP and the area is under unstable circumstances.
Im sorry if im being harsh, but you are showing instibility with your decisions and you are being influenced by complete unreliable information. The above is fact, i request that you use facts to make map changes from now on, IE: Screenshots or killmails or official statements from leadership, not if you see them while your flying around the area.
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Avalon Beholder
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Posted - 2005.07.22 23:11:00 -
[172]
Of those 10 only 4 are both IMP and outside HED.
You posted 2 RA POS kills ffs. Way to prove a point.
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sapage1
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Posted - 2005.07.22 23:17:00 -
[173]
Originally by: Avalon Beholder Of those 10 only 4 are both IMP and outside HED.
You posted 2 RA POS kills ffs. Way to prove a point.
VOTF INVOLVED-1 Section XIII IMP AFFILIATED CORP-2 SEE ABOVE-3 IN HED BUT STILL KILLING THE FIVE-4 SEE ABOVE-5 ABOVE-6 SOLIDLINE - IMP -7 SEE ABOVE-8 ABOVE-9 VOTF -10
Please dont make me do that again. ___________________________________________________
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Joshua Foiritain
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Posted - 2005.07.22 23:23:00 -
[174]
Edited by: Joshua Foiritain on 22/07/2005 23:24:11 Im confused, youre complaining because IMP is on the map, then you show me deathmails of IMP in curse (The ones i mentioned basing my decision on) and tell me im not objective because i marked in IMP on the map as Aneu requested due to their invasion of curse?
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sapage1
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Posted - 2005.07.22 23:29:00 -
[175]
No-
You said
Originally by: Josh If it wasnt for those IMP's dieing i wouldnt have made Curse a warzone, which seems to be what Aneu wanted...
Imps dying quite recently which you based your decision on.
then i post
Originally by: Me
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10
Which are deathmails of 5ive from quite a long time back. Yet you base your decision on IMP dying recently not 5ive dying quite a while back?
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Dianabolic
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Posted - 2005.07.22 23:40:00 -
[176]
Sapage, the map is a CURRENT representation of events, not stuff from "quite a while back".
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thoth foc
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Posted - 2005.07.23 00:13:00 -
[177]
Originally by: sapage1
Originally by: Avalon Beholder Of those 10 only 4 are both IMP and outside HED.
You posted 2 RA POS kills ffs. Way to prove a point.
VOTF INVOLVED-1 Section XIII IMP AFFILIATED CORP-2 SEE ABOVE-3 IN HED BUT STILL KILLING THE FIVE-4 SEE ABOVE-5 ABOVE-6 SOLIDLINE - IMP -7 SEE ABOVE-8 ABOVE-9 VOTF -10
Please dont make me do that again.
LOL.. is this enuff evidence to have the IMP war tag moved to hed-gp, RA have a war tag of thier own..
--thoth
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The Enslaver
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Posted - 2005.07.23 01:01:00 -
[178]
So basically, Sapage, you are saying that IMP are in HED all the time, except perhaps half an hour once a week between 01:30 and 02:00, where you come down to VOL, and go immediately back to HED? Because thats exactly what you just posted says.
Btw, posting ships we've lost to RA (Section XIII) does not mean you are fighting us. Believe it or not, IMP and RA are seperate entities Sapage! Anyone can check both eve-kills and five.killboard.net and see that almost all of your kills and losses are in HED, saying that you don't spend almost all your time there is ludicrous.
So - IMP infestation in HED sounds fair tbh.
[5] now also control M53 (Cache). --------
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Kyle Caldrel
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Posted - 2005.07.23 01:24:00 -
[179]
We controll the stations but the area remains contested.
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IMP Spokesperson
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Posted - 2005.07.23 02:35:00 -
[180]
IMPERIUM and map threads is such a fantastic combo.
Their grasp of reality is matched only by their vast controlled territory.
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Joshua Foiritain
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Posted - 2005.07.23 02:42:00 -
[181]
Originally by: sapage1 No-
You said
Originally by: Josh If it wasnt for those IMP's dieing i wouldnt have made Curse a warzone, which seems to be what Aneu wanted...
Imps dying quite recently which you based your decision on.
then i post
Originally by: Me
links
Which are deathmails of 5ive from quite a long time back. Yet you base your decision on IMP dying recently not 5ive dying quite a while back?
Right so youre upset because i only looked at the IMP dieing and not five losses to IMP on their killboard. Guess why that is? If people have a killboard they report ALL their kills, making every killboard pretty much completely accurate. Deaths however isnt something everyone likes reporting, so the chance of people failing to report these cases is a lot bigger.
Its quite logical, so in the end i saw no IMP in curse, 5 claimed to see no IMP and i added IMP to the map because i saw their deaths in Curse Reported on the five killboard.
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Khaerie
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Posted - 2005.07.23 03:19:00 -
[182]
Edited by: Khaerie on 23/07/2005 03:22:04 All right guys, leave the nitpicking to us Diplomats. The question is whether the map is accurate, not how it came to that point.
Thus far, the accuracy does not seem to be in question.
Hey Josh, I've heard of no fighting activity occuring in Stain of late. Have you done any research in this?
Editted:
Whoops, forgot about Virii. I suppose they might be down that way but Fountain I highly doubt and VC is fighting in other areas from what I hear.
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Arsenio
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Posted - 2005.07.23 03:40:00 -
[183]
Originally by: The Enslaver Joshua,
All RA have withdrawn from Insmother and Wicked Creek. All stations in them are now owned by [5] (Please check corp info's of the corps in [5] to confirm this).
Cache is now a heavily contested region, as you will find if you actually visit it.
Curse has a light enemy force during 2/3 hours of the day, during most timezones the region is clear.
I'd have thought you'd have managed to confirm this by now 
yes we lose Insmother but Wicked Creek stations and sovereignty is our, check ingame sovereignty map, Influence of the 5 in cache not stably, I would be afraid to make such loud statements. Cache is Shinra--RA warzone now, and Scalding Pass is atuk--RA warzone. And mr Enslaver claim in Scalding Pass refinary system is RA. But we do not dare to make loud statements just as you make, try to keep region even week.
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sapage1
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Posted - 2005.07.23 09:34:00 -
[184]
Originally by: Joshua Foiritain
Originally by: sapage1 No-
You said
Originally by: Josh If it wasnt for those IMP's dieing i wouldnt have made Curse a warzone, which seems to be what Aneu wanted...
Imps dying quite recently which you based your decision on.
then i post
Originally by: Me
links
Which are deathmails of 5ive from quite a long time back. Yet you base your decision on IMP dying recently not 5ive dying quite a while back?
Right so youre upset because i only looked at the IMP dieing and not five losses to IMP on their killboard. Guess why that is? If people have a killboard they report ALL their kills, making every killboard pretty much completely accurate. Deaths however isnt something everyone likes reporting, so the chance of people failing to report these cases is a lot bigger.
Its quite logical, so in the end i saw no IMP in curse, 5 claimed to see no IMP and i added IMP to the map because i saw their deaths in Curse Reported on the five killboard.

Then you obviously cannot believe what the five(7) forum warriors say then can you? ___________________________________________________
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Joshua Foiritain
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Posted - 2005.07.23 10:03:00 -
[185]
Originally by: sapage1 Then you obviously cannot believe what the five(7) forum warriors say then can you?
That goes for pretty much every alliance in the game, which is why i dont edit the map based on what people say.  ------------------
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Edoo
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Posted - 2005.07.23 11:05:00 -
[186]
Tenal is contested between PA and Xelas, Killboards will show this, and no fighting has taken place in Venal/Branch.
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MegaJ
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Posted - 2005.07.23 11:12:00 -
[187]
S.A.S and V-o-C contest F-E's claim over Geminate.
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P1rate Dave
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Posted - 2005.07.23 18:24:00 -
[188]
imp is not in curse ?

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Raeff
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Posted - 2005.07.23 23:32:00 -
[189]
Edited by: Raeff on 23/07/2005 23:36:44 Edited by: Raeff on 23/07/2005 23:33:28 here it is! officially!
-V- controls.....
wait for it.....
EO2
oh and to the dude that said Foundation has NEVER been in curse .. i'll send ya some pictures of our loot we got from there on MANY occasions .. incuding today 
maybe i can get a hot chick to pose in the pictures
on a serious note, GW is VERY much still contested .. even if the map maker dude does somehow believe you and he changes the map, it doesnt change a damn thing 
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The Enslaver
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Posted - 2005.07.23 23:53:00 -
[190]
Millenium may contest it, but FND sure as hell doesn't.
Your the only FND that ever fight  --------
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munchy
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Posted - 2005.07.24 00:03:00 -
[191]
Originally by: The Enslaver Millenium may contest it, but FND sure as hell doesn't.
Your the only FND that ever fight 
how would you know? ive never even seen you in great wildlands ---
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Shredder
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Posted - 2005.07.24 00:06:00 -
[192]
Originally by: munchy
Originally by: The Enslaver Millenium may contest it, but FND sure as hell doesn't.
Your the only FND that ever fight 
how would you know? ive never even seen you in great wildlands
Dude theres rarely anyone there to fight.
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The Enslaver
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Posted - 2005.07.24 00:06:00 -
[193]
Do you have any idea how many characters I have, Munchy?  --------
FireFoxx80: If you think you can do a better job, go find yourself a datacentre to host a box, get a copy of Visual Studio, and STFU. |

Darkrydar
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Posted - 2005.07.24 00:23:00 -
[194]
Pfft, Floundernation can't even seem to be able to make an oficial alliance...
OMG, WE'RE UBER (POS KILLS for the nubs) |

Raeff
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Posted - 2005.07.24 01:05:00 -
[195]
its been discussed on many occasions .. we got no good reason to go formal unless we are in an area we can "claim" .. last time i checked Thukker still held sov claim to GW 
other than that i just dont see any good reason, do you?
who knows though, im not in the "political scene" i just fly around saying "bang bang" and trying to make things dead before they make me dead 
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Raid
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Posted - 2005.07.24 04:31:00 -
[196]
Why wouldnt you form one? Surely an alliance thats holding its own in GW can afford 1 bil. I think people want to see just how many people foundation actually have. Or how willing people would be to join the formal alliance an expose themselves to alliance wide war dec.
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Mort Dyken
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Posted - 2005.07.24 08:59:00 -
[197]
You just named some advantages it would have for our enemies if we formed an alliance, Raid. Still I fail to see the reson to see why we should spend 1 bill for that. 
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ThunderGodThor
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Posted - 2005.07.24 10:11:00 -
[198]
Originally by: The Enslaver [5] Control Insmother atm (no resistance), with Wicked Creek being controlled almost totally by [5] with some slight RA resistance.
Cache is also a warzone with a large number of [5] attacks in the area.
Why dont you take a walk over to JLO see who owns the station huh. Slight resistance my ***. Hope you guys deside to undock and come out and play.
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The Enslaver
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Posted - 2005.07.24 10:39:00 -
[199]
Originally by: ThunderGodThor
Originally by: The Enslaver [5] Control Insmother atm (no resistance), with Wicked Creek being controlled almost totally by [5] with some slight RA resistance.
Cache is also a warzone with a large number of [5] attacks in the area.
Why dont you take a walk over to JLO see who owns the station huh. Slight resistance my ***. Hope you guys deside to undock and come out and play.
You are aware that leaving HED for one day does not class as an area being contested? --------
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ParMizaN
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Posted - 2005.07.24 11:22:00 -
[200]
no chokepoint sign at EC-P8R? ------------------
Run and fall or stand in line, in the end what's your's is mine |
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Darkrydar
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Posted - 2005.07.24 12:34:00 -
[201]
Edited by: Darkrydar on 24/07/2005 12:39:49
Originally by: ThunderGodThor
Originally by: The Enslaver [5] Control Insmother atm (no resistance), with Wicked Creek being controlled almost totally by [5] with some slight RA resistance.
Cache is also a warzone with a large number of [5] attacks in the area.
Why dont you take a walk over to JLO see who owns the station huh. Slight resistance my ***. Hope you guys deside to undock and come out and play.
I swear you are so concerned with the map it borders on insanity. Do you really need to post everytime Xirtam takes the kids out for a field trip?
Its amazing that you seem to forget we'd have to undock to chase your max-WCS ships around.
OMG, WE'RE UBER (POS KILLS for the nubs) |

Shiwan Khan
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Posted - 2005.07.24 16:41:00 -
[202]
Originally by: Darkrydar Edited by: Darkrydar on 24/07/2005 12:39:49
Originally by: ThunderGodThor
Originally by: The Enslaver [5] Control Insmother atm (no resistance), with Wicked Creek being controlled almost totally by [5] with some slight RA resistance.
Cache is also a warzone with a large number of [5] attacks in the area.
Why dont you take a walk over to JLO see who owns the station huh. Slight resistance my ***. Hope you guys deside to undock and come out and play.
I swear you are so concerned with the map it borders on insanity. Do you really need to post everytime Xirtam takes the kids out for a field trip?
Its amazing that you seem to forget we'd have to undock to chase your max-WCS ships around.
Sorry, but we do not put max WCS on our ships....
"TO THETR DRUMNBS OF WAR WET GHO"
2005.06.17 07:15:13 combat Your 1400mm Howitzer Artillery II perfectly strikes Nebba Kenezzer [SNRA], wrecking for 2250.9 damage. |

Darkrydar
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Posted - 2005.07.24 16:51:00 -
[203]
Originally by: Shiwan Khan
Originally by: Darkrydar Edited by: Darkrydar on 24/07/2005 12:39:49
Originally by: ThunderGodThor
Originally by: The Enslaver [5] Control Insmother atm (no resistance), with Wicked Creek being controlled almost totally by [5] with some slight RA resistance.
Cache is also a warzone with a large number of [5] attacks in the area.
Why dont you take a walk over to JLO see who owns the station huh. Slight resistance my ***. Hope you guys deside to undock and come out and play.
I swear you are so concerned with the map it borders on insanity. Do you really need to post everytime Xirtam takes the kids out for a field trip?
Its amazing that you seem to forget we'd have to undock to chase your max-WCS ships around.
Sorry, but we do not put max WCS on our ships....
Funny you should say that.
HLW Local about 10 minutes ago:
Aneu Angellus > i only had 2 on King Dave > yeh but 4 on the scorp Aneu Angellus > so?
OMG, WE'RE UBER (POS KILLS for the nubs) |

XirtamVotf
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Posted - 2005.07.24 18:04:00 -
[204]
All I will say is LOOK AT the killmails, and the systems you guys died in and the dates You are truly funny enslaver
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Avalon Beholder
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Posted - 2005.07.24 19:48:00 -
[205]
Yes look at the killmails like the old guy says. Or Lack of them.
If less than 15 .5. BS losses in a month , 2/3 of which are in HED counts as a warzone then hell, 99% of 0.0 space should be marked as a warzone.
Tbh there are lone pirate corps that cause us more hassle than your 3 alliance group. Next youll be wanting it contested because you took a station with no shields at 4 am, for all of 12 hours.
IMP are nobodies. Youve killed less of us in a month than we kill in an average day, and youve lost more than twice that in the process.
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XirtamVotf
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Posted - 2005.07.24 19:54:00 -
[206]
LOL Avalon try registering your kill mails sometime eh ? I know your proud but just get factual eh ?
You are absolutely so wrong just with EVEkills extra boards it boggles the mind that you claim this.
It also proves to the eve community that you REFUSE to post your losses, so get a grip
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Recscue
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Posted - 2005.07.24 19:56:00 -
[207]
Stop with the trash folks, this is the map thread.
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XirtamVotf
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Posted - 2005.07.24 20:17:00 -
[208]
2005.07.20 06:11:00
Victim: Balzor Haloo Alliance: Unknown Corporation: Phantom Squad Destroyed Type: Megathron Solar System: D87E-A System Security Level: 0.0
2005.07.19 02:29:00
Victim: Alpha Prime Alliance: The Five Corporation: Arcane Technologies Destroyed Type: Dominix Solar System: K-B2D3 System Security Level: 0.0
Victim: StiZum Hilidii Alliance: The Five Corporation: Arcane Technologies Destroyed Type: Tempest Solar System: 6-EQYE System Security Level: 0.0
Victim: Bazman Alliance: The Five Corporation: Shinra Destroyed Type: Megathron Solar System: 6-EQYE System Security Level: 0.0
Victim: Comitatus Alliance: The Five Corporation: Black Omega Security Destroyed Type: Armageddon Solar System: HED-GP System Security Level: 0.0
Victim: hezitationkillz Alliance: The Five Corporation: Arcane Technologies Destroyed Type: Tempest Solar System: 0SHT-A System Security Level: 0.0
Victim: Clay101 Alliance: The Five Corporation: M. Corp Destroyed Type: Apocalypse Solar System: HLW-HP System Security Level: 0.0
this was just last 25 kills possible from me alone, wish it wenrt back further to show that the 5 do not post there losses Lallante being defintely one of those. Ill name for sure Red draconis from Suprem, namelesz, Tatzlwurm,lallente, all in BSs that i killed just to name a few
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Sneetches
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Posted - 2005.07.24 20:43:00 -
[209]
Guys,
This is for map-related items only. Go start *yet another* thread about who killed who how many times somewhere else.
It really is quite inappropriate.
- Snee
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XirtamVotf
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Posted - 2005.07.24 20:47:00 -
[210]
I totally apoligise for this but I cant stand the crap the 5 boasts all over that is inappropriate, I will not post here anymore and again I apoligise
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Xrak
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Posted - 2005.07.24 20:56:00 -
[211]
Originally by: XirtamVotf I totally apoligise for this but I cant stand the crap the 5 boasts all over that is inappropriate, I will not post here anymore and again I apoligise
"I must say, what a lovely young man" "Oh yes" "Another biscuit Edna?"
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The Enslaver
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Posted - 2005.07.24 21:29:00 -
[212]
Xirtam, fact is you only left HED for one day. You've only left HED what, four times in a few weeks?
If you want to show as contested anywhere else, try spending all your time in our space. The odd incursion does not make anywhere contested. --------
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Draconis Red
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Posted - 2005.07.24 23:53:00 -
[213]
Originally by: XirtamVotf Ill name for sure Red draconis from Suprem, namelesz, Tatzlwurm,lallente, all in BSs that i killed just to name a few
Xirt,
1) you got my name wrong 2) you never killed me while i was in 'SUPRM' (note the spelling AGAIN!) 3) the ONE AND ONLY time you killed me i posted the loss (it was a raven in HLW)
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Yarrick
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Posted - 2005.07.24 23:53:00 -
[214]
Edited by: Yarrick on 24/07/2005 23:52:51 Just Curious, why did you remove the stop signs from the heavily camped areas? I thought they were a nice touch to be honest.  _____________________________________________
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Avalon Beholder
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Posted - 2005.07.25 01:17:00 -
[215]
Xirt, you are lying. Where are these missing losses?
Whichever way you look at it, IMP has killed less .5. in the last 6 weeks than .5. has killed TODAY ALONE. If this is not the case, please tell us how many .5. BSs you HAVE killed with a link to the site which details them. Thanks.
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XirtamVotf
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Posted - 2005.07.25 01:42:00 -
[216]
Edited by: XirtamVotf on 25/07/2005 01:43:01 Um Avalon you tard,i told you eve extra.com wont go past last 25 kills, i killed lallente in his apoc:)
He did not post his kill
As for drac dont get your panties in a bunch, you were part of the 5 thats all that matters, and in HLW with the other BSs we killed that numpty Avalon refuses to admit that we hget loads of kills, just like 2 nights ago, 11v 11 with Obiwands crew the 5, they had 4 BSs 3 hacs and other sup craft, we had 3 Bs 1 hac and reg ship support they all died but 1 megathtron 1 munin and a rifter in an even fight.
So get off your high horse Avalon and post with your main cause alts are retarded
And in the last 6 weeks we are so far ahead you its not funny
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Darkrydar
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Posted - 2005.07.25 02:10:00 -
[217]
Originally by: XirtamVotf Edited by: XirtamVotf on 25/07/2005 01:43:01 Um Avalon you tard,i told you eve extra.com wont go past last 25 kills, i killed lallente in his apoc:)
He did not post his kill
As for drac dont get your panties in a bunch, you were part of the 5 thats all that matters, and in HLW with the other BSs we killed that numpty Avalon refuses to admit that we hget loads of kills, just like 2 nights ago, 11v 11 with Obiwands crew the 5, they had 4 BSs 3 hacs and other sup craft, we had 3 Bs 1 hac and reg ship support they all died but 1 megathtron 1 munin and a rifter in an even fight.
So get off your high horse Avalon and post with your main cause alts are retarded
And in the last 6 weeks we are so far ahead you its not funny
Maybe you should buy a real killboard? I mean, either provide kills or give it a rest. I mean, if you dont even have a decent killboard all we have left is your word. Most of the ex-CA guys know how good you are with numbers.
OMG, WE'RE UBER (POS KILLS for the nubs) |

Recluse Viramor
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Posted - 2005.07.25 02:20:00 -
[218]
ahem, this map thread is the last place to be arguing kills
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Moros
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Posted - 2005.07.25 03:21:00 -
[219]
I think I can be crushed with how much ******* ego there is in this thread. Too many egotistical ****s around here.
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Matt Helm
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Posted - 2005.07.25 07:54:00 -
[220]
S.A.S & VOC ..Please dont take total control of geminate before i get back of holiday....I want some targets 
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Stratego
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Posted - 2005.07.25 08:52:00 -
[221]
*Starts redecorating in Fountain*
;) BOB are BOB 5 are BOB and together we make BOOBIE5.
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Zhuge Liang

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Posted - 2005.07.25 10:31:00 -
[222]
Keep the trash talk and killmails off this thread.
After 4 pages of deleting trash and killmails you'll be please to know warnings and bans will now be issued to anyone continuing to do so.
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MegaJ
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Posted - 2005.07.25 11:51:00 -
[223]
I'd like to note again that SAS and VOC contest F-E's claim over Vale and Geminate, since it was not added in the latest map change. Please mark those regions contested.
[-SAS-] on Eve-Kills |

Joshua Foiritain
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Posted - 2005.07.25 15:58:00 -
[224]
Originally by: MegaJ I'd like to note again that SAS and VOC contest F-E's claim over Vale and Geminate, since it was not added in the latest map change. Please mark those regions contested.
Contesting something doesnt work overnight  ------------------
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P1rate Dave
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Posted - 2005.07.25 16:18:00 -
[225]
im not sure if its on there or not but the scalding pass region more specifically JLO-Z3 is contested red is fighting with 5 for it
red has sov atm and controls the station
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IMP Spokesperson
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Posted - 2005.07.25 20:13:00 -
[226]
Originally by: P1rate Dave im not sure if its on there or not but the scalding pass region more specifically JLO-Z3 is contested red is fighting with 5 for it
red has sov atm and controls the station
Yeah?
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P1rate Dave
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Posted - 2005.07.25 22:26:00 -
[227]
your point?
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Argumentative
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Posted - 2005.07.25 22:37:00 -
[228]
Originally by: P1rate Dave your point?
Aren't you saying this from a deep space safespot in five space? Interesting definition of contesting it.
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P1rate Dave
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Posted - 2005.07.25 23:04:00 -
[229]
im sitting in the red controlled jlo station
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Argumentative
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Posted - 2005.07.25 23:06:00 -
[230]
Ah yes, RA's only remaining station I believe?
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Kyle Caldrel
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Posted - 2005.07.26 00:44:00 -
[231]
I dont know if commenting on the map is against the rules or anything, but I like the shadeing jobs in the contested regions. 
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David Goodwill
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Posted - 2005.07.26 09:33:00 -
[232]
Originally by: Kyle Caldrel I dont know if commenting on the map is against the rules or anything, but I like the shadeing jobs in the contested regions. 
I thought that was a nice touch too. Go Josh! \o/ --------------------------------
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Zandramus
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Posted - 2005.07.26 13:37:00 -
[233]
When you change Vale/Geminate over to S.A.S / V-O-C please us a different color than that icky brown color.
Thanks
Zandramus
S.A.S
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MAXSuicide
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Posted - 2005.07.26 21:33:00 -
[234]
Originally by: Zandramus When you change Vale/Geminate over to S.A.S / V-O-C please us a different color than that icky brown color.
Thanks
picky!
My vids and random stuff
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pershphanie
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Posted - 2005.07.26 22:11:00 -
[235]
Edited by: pershphanie on 26/07/2005 22:15:03
Originally by: Joshua Foiritain
Originally by: MegaJ I'd like to note again that SAS and VOC contest F-E's claim over Vale and Geminate, since it was not added in the latest map change. Please mark those regions contested.
Contesting something doesnt work overnight 
FE verifies that SAS/VOC have a legitimate contest over germinate with warzone in vale.
Since PA/FE have blockaided Xelas into one system and PA has taken back the rest of the region I'd say that tenal deserves a warzzone as well. |

FalloutBoy
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Posted - 2005.07.26 22:43:00 -
[236]
Originally by: MAXSuicide
Originally by: Zandramus When you change Vale/Geminate over to S.A.S / V-O-C please us a different color than that icky brown color.
Thanks
picky!
I nominate that Pink should be the new color
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j0sephine
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Posted - 2005.07.26 23:23:00 -
[237]
Edited by: j0sephine on 26/07/2005 23:25:32
Well if the thread veered off onto aesthetics... would it please be possible to up the size of the smallest white font by a point or two, or/and maybe make it slightly bolder? The way it's now, it tends to be extremely hard to read and forces squint, far from comfortable ;.;
(i reckon even something like the main font used on this forum would be better... especially when it's 'normal' mix of lowercase/uppercase, instead of tiny all-caps >.<;
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Reiisha
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Posted - 2005.07.27 03:08:00 -
[238]
Allied: Fountain Alliance and Firmus Ixion?
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Nez Perces
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Posted - 2005.07.27 04:19:00 -
[239]
Originally by: Reiisha Allied: Fountain Alliance and Firmus Ixion?
This was true once upon a time.... guess nobody had the heart to say it wasn't the case anymore ... just one of those things.....
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Lifewire
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Posted - 2005.07.27 11:02:00 -
[240]
The latest map says "9 pirate infestation". lol
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Matt Helm
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Posted - 2005.07.27 14:41:00 -
[241]
Ok i am on holiday with no access to eve.. Who controls geminate ..
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Cloned Mark
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Posted - 2005.07.27 15:18:00 -
[242]
Originally by: Raeff Edited by: Raeff on 23/07/2005 23:36:44 Edited by: Raeff on 23/07/2005 23:33:28 here it is! officially!
-V- controls.....
wait for it.....
EO2

and Foundation controls...
wait for it...
Egbinger!
95% of the time all I see in -V- in GW -----------------------------
M. Corp |

General Killah
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Posted - 2005.07.27 19:14:00 -
[243]
Geminate is SMASH and SAS/VOC now, F-E has no real presence, any we find there are hunted down by either us or SAS/VOC.
Would be a great relationship if we weren't at war. ---------------------------------
(\_/) (O.o) (> <) This is Bunny. Copy Bunny into your signature to help him on his way to world domination. |

OVERCOPES 1
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Posted - 2005.07.27 20:26:00 -
[244]
Originally by: General Killah Geminate is SMASH and SAS/VOC now, F-E has no real presence, any we find there are hunted down by either us or SAS/VOC.
Would be a great relationship if we weren't at war.
rome ,the burn eden of the north.
Im a real wiltshire headbanger,generally getting podded whilst comatozed on cider.
i mayv or may nit abe a bit drunk-parMizan.
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Raeff
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Posted - 2005.07.28 03:55:00 -
[245]
Originally by: Cloned Mark
Originally by: Raeff Edited by: Raeff on 23/07/2005 23:36:44 Edited by: Raeff on 23/07/2005 23:33:28 here it is! officially!
-V- controls.....
wait for it.....
EO2

and Foundation controls...
wait for it...
Egbinger!
95% of the time all I see in -V- in GW
you dont travel enough .. we go on about our every day business in GW while you camp eo2/mm .. oh noes our secret is out 
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Joshua Foiritain
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Posted - 2005.07.28 04:05:00 -
[246]
Just wondering; Does Foundation have a public killboard? ------------------
[WTT: Vigilant] |

Ishana
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Posted - 2005.07.28 07:35:00 -
[247]
Originally by: Joshua Foiritain Just wondering; Does Foundation have a public killboard?
The answer would be "no". For our eyes only ;) _________________________________________________________
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nico wurz250
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Posted - 2005.07.28 07:46:00 -
[248]
Sry to say but this map is mutch longer not correct.
. Support your local xetic member !
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Kyle Caldrel
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Posted - 2005.07.28 09:23:00 -
[249]
Originally by: nico wurz250 Sry to say but this map is mutch longer not correct.
perhaps you should suggest changes to the map?
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nico wurz250
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Posted - 2005.07.28 09:53:00 -
[250]
Just do it Kyle :). Or leave it how it is. How do you like it for you. . Support your local xetic member !
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Avalon Beholder
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Posted - 2005.07.28 14:18:00 -
[251]
CCP bugs dont change the map.
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Kyle Caldrel
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Posted - 2005.07.28 21:19:00 -
[252]
Well saying the map is wrong, but then not suggesting any changes to the map maker kinda makes it hard to correct what is "wrong" with the map no? I think hes doing a great job, hes updating it super regularly.
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Zandramus
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Posted - 2005.07.29 12:18:00 -
[253]
Please add a warzone to Vale of the Silent and make it contested as well. Between F-E allaince, SAS-VOC, and now Freelance Blood Alliance has tried to invade and set a claim on LS-JEP.
As for SMASH allaince in Geminate and Vale, we have not seen more than frigs and while I agree that a warzone is needed for them I dont agree that they should have contested status.
Zandramus
S.A.S
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sapage1
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Posted - 2005.07.29 16:38:00 -
[254]
Outer-Ring no longer has any hostiles in, syndicate has pirates.
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Dianabolic
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Posted - 2005.07.30 14:00:00 -
[255]
Originally by: sapage1 Outer-Ring no longer has any hostiles in.
BoB dispute this claim.
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sapage1
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Posted - 2005.07.30 17:18:00 -
[256]
Originally by: Dianabolic
Originally by: sapage1 Outer-Ring no longer has any hostiles in.
BoB dispute this claim.
Syndicate is not outer-ring and your losses do not count as a dispute. ___________________________________________________
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Dianabolic
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Posted - 2005.07.30 19:21:00 -
[257]
Originally by: sapage1
Originally by: Dianabolic
Originally by: sapage1 Outer-Ring no longer has any hostiles in.
BoB dispute this claim.
Syndicate is not outer-ring and your losses do not count as a dispute.
We don't care what you think, or for your smack.
We have said our bit in this thread, as per the procedures laid out in the 2nd post, if you wish to disagree with us then either make another thread or bring it in-game.
Thanks for reading.
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ParMizaN
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Posted - 2005.07.30 22:09:00 -
[258]
Edited by: ParMizaN on 30/07/2005 22:10:16 The north is going crazy: you may want to look at that
Edit: have fun :)
and thx for letting us know hehe ------------------
Run and fall or stand in line, in the end what's your's is mine |

General Killah
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Posted - 2005.07.31 00:27:00 -
[259]
Originally by: Zandramus Please add a warzone to Vale of the Silent and make it contested as well. Between F-E allaince, SAS-VOC, and now Freelance Blood Alliance has tried to invade and set a claim on LS-JEP.
As for SMASH allaince in Geminate and Vale, we have not seen more than frigs and while I agree that a warzone is needed for them I dont agree that they should have contested status.
We live in FDZ, we kill SAS/VOC every time we see them(provided its not 15v2)and we kill F-E and anyone else in the region.
It's contested. ---------------------------------
(\_/) (O.o) (> <) This is Bunny. Copy Bunny into your signature to help him on his way to world domination. |

General Killah
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Posted - 2005.07.31 00:28:00 -
[260]
Originally by: OVERCOPES 1
Originally by: General Killah Geminate is SMASH and SAS/VOC now, F-E has no real presence, any we find there are hunted down by either us or SAS/VOC.
Would be a great relationship if we weren't at war.
rome ,the burn eden of the north.
Thanks for compliment, I like Burn Eden ---------------------------------
(\_/) (O.o) (> <) This is Bunny. Copy Bunny into your signature to help him on his way to world domination. |
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Zarthanon
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Posted - 2005.07.31 01:22:00 -
[261]
Originally by: General Killah
Originally by: Zandramus Please add a warzone to Vale of the Silent and make it contested as well. Between F-E allaince, SAS-VOC, and now Freelance Blood Alliance has tried to invade and set a claim on LS-JEP.
As for SMASH allaince in Geminate and Vale, we have not seen more than frigs and while I agree that a warzone is needed for them I dont agree that they should have contested status.
We live in FDZ, we kill SAS/VOC every time we see them(provided its not 15v2)and we kill F-E and anyone else in the region.
It's contested.
Bull****... you only go up to FDZ from time to time. You sit in your deep space POS and mine. You live in Airaken and camp BWF whenever you can outnumber someone 2:1. There's no contest to anything in Geminate. Personally there's just a warzone between everyone and everything, no control. It's practically impossible to control it as there are too many entrances directly into it, it just isn't feasable to do it. SAS/VOC have the upper hand, but there are incursions from just about anyone and everyone that can fly a group of frigates.
Originally by: ParMizaN i mayv or may nit abe a bit drunk
Originally by: Buddrow TO THETR DRUMNBS OF WAR WET GHO
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Shin Ra
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Posted - 2005.07.31 01:43:00 -
[262]
Originally by: OVERCOPES 1
Originally by: General Killah Geminate is SMASH and SAS/VOC now, F-E has no real presence, any we find there are hunted down by either us or SAS/VOC.
Would be a great relationship if we weren't at war.
rome ,the burn eden of the north.
So they are kicking your ass too? 25th August good for 1v1? ----------------------------------------- wts all new "burberry" warp core stab II's |

Shinra Insurance
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Posted - 2005.07.31 05:37:00 -
[263]
Originally by: sapage1 Outer-Ring no longer has any hostiles in, syndicate has pirates.
I dispute this claim.
I work for an insurance company, so I would know a thing or two about claims.
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Musician
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Posted - 2005.07.31 23:26:00 -
[264]
Originally by: General Killah
Originally by: Zandramus Please add a warzone to Vale of the Silent and make it contested as well. Between F-E allaince, SAS-VOC, and now Freelance Blood Alliance has tried to invade and set a claim on LS-JEP.
As for SMASH allaince in Geminate and Vale, we have not seen more than frigs and while I agree that a warzone is needed for them I dont agree that they should have contested status.
We live in FDZ, we kill SAS/VOC every time we see them(provided its not 15v2)and we kill F-E and anyone else in the region.
It's contested.

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General Killah
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Posted - 2005.07.31 23:33:00 -
[265]
You don't count musician, that damn raven got refitted 4 times before tanking us and it was a sick tank. ---------------------------------
(\_/) (O.o) (> <) This is Bunny. Copy Bunny into your signature to help him on his way to world domination. |

Rendai
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Posted - 2005.08.01 10:25:00 -
[266]
Xelas space should be contested, between the North and the South basically.
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Cartiff
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Posted - 2005.08.01 11:29:00 -
[267]
Xelas space is now contested.
Cartiff, CEO Euphoria Released NBSI 4TW
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TWD
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Posted - 2005.08.01 11:49:00 -
[268]
Edited by: TWD on 01/08/2005 11:54:06
Originally by: Rendai Xelas space should be contested, between the North and the South basically.
I know that we (BoB) went up there for a road trip to get PvP action, not to contest space. |

Cartiff
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Posted - 2005.08.01 14:24:00 -
[269]
Tenal is contested between Xelas and NBSI/PA
Cartiff, CEO Euphoria Released NBSI 4TW
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Mitch Taylor
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Posted - 2005.08.01 22:05:00 -
[270]
love the maps lads
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SeckelitE
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Posted - 2005.08.02 10:18:00 -
[271]
For the next update also in Germinate you can add RO Alliance,i beleve SAS/VOC and SMASH are agree with this.
Thx -------------------------------------------- the only thing humans make it perfect is to self distruct |

sapage1
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Posted - 2005.08.02 12:02:00 -
[272]
NORAD and Imperium are working side by side in outer-ring. Upcoming statement soon.
___________________________________________________ Imperium vs 5ive
Imperium.wmv www.sultenonline.com/zelotas/Imperium.wmvMirr |

Zandramus
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Posted - 2005.08.02 12:30:00 -
[273]
Originally by: SeckelitE For the next update also in Germinate you can add RO Alliance,i beleve SAS/VOC and SMASH are agree with this.
Thx
Were having one hell of a party up in Geminate at the moment. Freelance Blood alliance has been crushed and sent back to Luminare their pos was destroyed by SAS/VOC. We have engaged and fought the RO alliance in Geminate, I still see the occasional SMASH alliance in Geminate , but mostly in Airaken... I think they may be on a different timezone than us.
No longer see any F-E in either Vale or in Geminate, I believe they are living in Tribute exclusivly now.
Zandramus
S.A.S
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Uggs386
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Posted - 2005.08.02 14:47:00 -
[274]
Xelas have surrendered and pulle dout of tenal, tenal is inhabited by nbsi and pa.
DJ shows his true feelings. James Kavourias > just need a **** break soon:P dj lightning > let me know when and i will hold |

General Killah
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Posted - 2005.08.02 18:04:00 -
[275]
Yeah Zand for the most past we are on a different timezone, RO Alliance contest Geminate as well as SAS/VOC and us, agreed.
RO are friendly to us however... ---------------------------------
(\_/) (O.o) (> <) This is Bunny. Copy Bunny into your signature to help him on his way to world domination. |

Vishnej
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Posted - 2005.08.02 20:42:00 -
[276]
Edited by: Vishnej on 02/08/2005 20:42:15 FE claims the upper half of vale as of this time, not sure on the lower half.
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General Killah
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Posted - 2005.08.02 23:54:00 -
[277]
No, F-E owns one station. ---------------------------------
(\_/) (O.o) (> <) This is Bunny. Copy Bunny into your signature to help him on his way to world domination. |

DirtyHarry
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Posted - 2005.08.03 14:07:00 -
[278]
Please refer the FE alliance as the FE alliance, simply saying FE makes people think you are talking about the corp, which everyone should know has closed, thx.
-Havo -------------------
DirtyHarry ~ Havocide - Account Active |

Light Darkness
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Posted - 2005.08.03 17:40:00 -
[279]
Great Wildlands completly claimed by Veritas Immortalis.
Really NO action here from enemys. Only Pirate activitys (we handle it).
Our Pilots are bored.
Regards /LD ---------------------------------------------------------- *[- V -]-Fleet Admiral*
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Drilla
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Posted - 2005.08.03 17:52:00 -
[280]
Grats to -V- with Great Wildlands, the last two times I was in GW, Light Darkness and his boys were in full control.
EVE System Security - Killboard (still early alpha) |
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Dirty Knave
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Posted - 2005.08.03 19:36:00 -
[281]
Yea F-E alliance controls part of vale... so it is contested. We do control all of Tribute along with our ally alliances. There is enemy presence but we are for the most part in control.
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DB Preacher
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Posted - 2005.08.04 08:54:00 -
[282]
BoB and Xelas have taken over Fountain completely.
Pretty much all remenants of the old owners have been removed including most of their assets last weekend when they shipped them out.
No real fighting is going on apart from one corp trying to pirate the area with cruisers every now and again.
When you get back from your holidays, please get in touch with one of the BoB leaders (Blacklight, Galavet or SirMolle) to sort standings for a visit at anytime in the area to see the situation for yourself.
thx dbp
Current RKK Ranking: (CAL4) Soldier
Drop by and say hi in Reikoku Forums.
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NiteOwl
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Posted - 2005.08.04 18:40:00 -
[283]
DAMN I MISS YOU SHLAGS!!! Not even a month has gone by since I sold my comp. Here I am D/Loading eve on my bros notebook just jonezing to play! =(
Unfortunatly thiis machine isnt worthy of anythng other than logging in once in a blue moon to change my skills!
The map looks good. I am a proud member of the 5 saying keep up the good work! =) cant wait to be back in action, fellas.... It will be fun!
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NiteOwl
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Posted - 2005.08.04 18:42:00 -
[284]
PS!!! I NEED A SIG CHOW...... 
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Raeff
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Posted - 2005.08.04 21:57:00 -
[285]
Originally by: Light Darkness Great Wildlands completly claimed by Veritas Immortalis.
Really NO action here from enemys. Only Pirate activitys (we handle it).
Our Pilots are bored.
Regards /LD
so we are pirates now? ok, who forgot to issue me my stuffed parrot damnit!!!
when Foundation is defeated we will surely let folks know .. just chill
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Light Darkness
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Posted - 2005.08.04 22:42:00 -
[286]
Foundation leave already GW.
We see Foundation with RA and Xetic in Tenerifis. really NO defence from "F" here and ONLY piratery in GW from some "alone" pilots (only the dudes i respect they fight ALONE).
Isnt any discussion. its REAL !
GW claimed by -V- and -V- control GW.
Regards /LD ---------------------------------------------------------- *[- V -]-Fleet Admiral*
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Nebba Kenezzer
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Posted - 2005.08.05 03:00:00 -
[287]
Originally by: NiteOwl PS!!! I NEED A SIG CHOW...... 
I ♥ NiteOwl.
BTW, I found your sig:
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Tr4XX
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Posted - 2005.08.05 08:15:00 -
[288]
Edited by: Tr4XX on 05/08/2005 08:16:23 Edited by: Tr4XX on 05/08/2005 08:15:45
Originally by: Light Darkness Foundation leave already GW.
We see Foundation with RA and Xetic in Tenerifis. really NO defence from "F" here and ONLY piratery in GW from some "alone" pilots (only the dudes i respect they fight ALONE).
Isnt any discussion. its REAL !
GW claimed by -V- and -V- control GW.
Regards
/LD
Ok listen up now forum yoda, if u feel like claiming a region, maybe consider the fact that the "other guys" still have a dozen pos' there (V controls GW)
Then there the fact that you cant stop us from travelling at all.
camping 1 station and it gates with a bubble is hardly controlling a region.(V controls GW)
oh and btw, if you have pirates in your region, you dont control it either.
so you see, you still have a lot of work to do before u can make these claims in a serious way.
I will leave it at that.
(oh and take an english course)
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Mort Dyken
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Posted - 2005.08.05 08:25:00 -
[289]
Originally by: Light Darkness Foundation leave already GW.
We see Foundation with RA and Xetic in Tenerifis.
Regards /LD
LD, please take lessons in English AND in logical thinking:
I've seen your fleet in [5] territory a few days ago. Still I didn't hop on the forum claiming you guys are leaving GW.
And please let someone else handle official posts. I can't believe you're the best Veritas have for that task. Although I don't always agree with Headhunta, he writes decent English at least, and he doesn't make your alliance look like a bunch of schoolboys.
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HeadHunta II
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Posted - 2005.08.05 09:29:00 -
[290]
Let me add some words to these 2 Foundation posts:
- First off all english is not everyones first language.Keep that in mind. As long as you can understand what LD is saying there is no need to blame him for "not good english". And its not very nice either.
- So, you think putting some POS in some systems and bringing friends, who also set up some POS in some systems is enough to go on claiming a region?? You think its enough to let alts sitting at stations or at safespot just to show that you are still arround? You think its done with "flying arround" (oh yes you can fly arround, if we are operating in a different system than that one you are currently in ) and wait for single -V- pilots to engage them in small groups and dont even try to counter some of our bigger fleets? If you would be able to go on controlling GW, why can WE (the "agressors")fly arround like we want? Why we have time to form up fleets, regroup and chase your "fleets" without any resistance back to empire? Why can we mine and farm in "your" space then, without being attacked? Why are we bored in "your" space because we get no pvp? Why are we moving arround to find some enemys willing to fight, even back into Curse?
We are the ones on it to claim a space which was meant to be Foundation Space. YOU are the ones supposed to be "defenders". YOU should control GW, since you still want to go on claiming it.YOU should be the ones ruling, YOU should be the ones, forcing us "agressors" to leave. YOU are not able to do it, and you know it.
Sry, but "travel arround", sitting @ a POS, supply the POS, farm a bit, then run away if -V- guys entering the system while patroling the area or having small gank fleets makes me think, that you already sitting in an infested region.
We have to start somewhere, like every other alliance, to post a "claim" request in this thread. We did, since we think its exactly the point reached where you are not able to control GW anymore. Alliances who post in this thread, shouldnt discuss anymore they should request a "claim" or admit that they lost their area. Discussing, flaming shouldnt be a part of this thread. We made our statement, over and out.
"-V- Vice President" "-V- Minister of Foreign affairs" "CEO Ascendancy-Inc."
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Mort Dyken
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Posted - 2005.08.05 10:34:00 -
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Edited by: Mort Dyken on 05/08/2005 10:34:49 A reasonable post as I would have expected from you, Headhunta. 2 objections:
- English is not my 1st language as well. Still there's people in your alliance like you who can actually write it decently, so I honestly think you should handle official forum posts instead of LD. You should admit that our excursion to Tenerifis - LD brought that up - is a pretty silly argument, as you do excursions as well. - Neither Tr4xx nor me said we claim GW at this point. I'd merely say it's still contested as long as we can supply quite a bunch of POS's here (more than V actually).
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Cloned Mark
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Posted - 2005.08.05 13:22:00 -
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Originally by: Mort Dyken
Originally by: Light Darkness Foundation leave already GW.
We see Foundation with RA and Xetic in Tenerifis.
Regards /LD
And please let someone else handle official posts. I can't believe you're the best Veritas have for that task. Although I don't always agree with Headhunta, he writes decent English at least, and he doesn't make your alliance look like a bunch of schoolboys.
Smacking people because of their english skills is very low tbfh.
GW should show -V- territory with a contested symbol indicating Foundations Vs V. You guy might have stuck a few POSs up the VIH finger, but it is V who have the military force most of the time. -----------------------------
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Light Darkness
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Posted - 2005.08.05 13:22:00 -
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Sorry Mort.
But to have POS in a space and "only" mining there isnt any pvp activity and so no contested space.
Gretz with my bad english.
/LD ---------------------------------------------------------- *[- V -]-Fleet Admiral*
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Zarthanon
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Posted - 2005.08.05 14:34:00 -
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Along with SMASH, SAS/VOC, and RO... my mother and my friends-cousins-sister's French Poodle also claim Geminate.
Originally by: ParMizaN i mayv or may nit abe a bit drunk
Originally by: Buddrow TO THETR DRUMNBS OF WAR WET GHO
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Elenia Kheynes
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Posted - 2005.08.05 16:37:00 -
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JV1V-0 station in Tenerifis is under XF control. Even if it may last only a few days, I think it deserves to be on the map 
Dear friendly customer... Can I have your money ?
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General Killah
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Posted - 2005.08.05 18:16:00 -
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Originally by: Zarthanon Along with SMASH, SAS/VOC, and RO... my mother and my friends-cousins-sister's French Poodle also claim Geminate.
Funniest thing I've ever heard you say Zarth.
Actually, Geminate should be changed to contested between RO and SAS/VOC.
Vale of the Silent should also now be split for the time being, uncontested in 3 parts, around the stations. All owned by separate parties but not contested by any of the others.
Either that or show vale contested between SMASH/SAS and VOC/Forsaken Empire(corp?!) ---------------------------------
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Dirty Knave
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Posted - 2005.08.05 21:11:00 -
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Originally by: General Killah
Originally by: Zarthanon Along with SMASH, SAS/VOC, and RO... my mother and my friends-cousins-sister's French Poodle also claim Geminate.
Funniest thing I've ever heard you say Zarth.
Actually, Geminate should be changed to contested between RO and SAS/VOC.
Vale of the Silent should also now be split for the time being, uncontested in 3 parts, around the stations. All owned by separate parties but not contested by any of the others.
Either that or show vale contested between SMASH/SAS and VOC/Forsaken Empire(corp?!)
The F-E corp is dead. The F-E alliance has people in Vale but pretty much only the NORTHERN part.
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Scott Le'Gault
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Posted - 2005.08.06 03:33:00 -
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Can we get JV1V-0 named GM Guard?
W00t he rocks!
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General Killah
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Posted - 2005.08.06 04:00:00 -
[299]
Originally by: Dirty Knave
Originally by: General Killah
Originally by: Zarthanon Along with SMASH, SAS/VOC, and RO... my mother and my friends-cousins-sister's French Poodle also claim Geminate.
Funniest thing I've ever heard you say Zarth.
Actually, Geminate should be changed to contested between RO and SAS/VOC.
Vale of the Silent should also now be split for the time being, uncontested in 3 parts, around the stations. All owned by separate parties but not contested by any of the others.
Either that or show vale contested between SMASH/SAS and VOC/Forsaken Empire(corp?!)
The F-E corp is dead. The F-E alliance has people in Vale but pretty much only the NORTHERN part.
Agreed, Vale is kinda split, however not much in the way on contesting going on there for anyone. ---------------------------------
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Zarthanon
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Posted - 2005.08.06 04:00:00 -
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Edited by: Zarthanon on 06/08/2005 04:00:41
Originally by: Mort Dyken
Originally by: Light Darkness Foundation leave already GW.
We see Foundation with RA and Xetic in Tenerifis.
Regards /LD
LD, please take lessons in English AND in logical thinking:
I've seen your fleet in [5] territory a few days ago. Still I didn't hop on the forum claiming you guys are leaving GW.
And please let someone else handle official posts. I can't believe you're the best Veritas have for that task. Although I don't always agree with Headhunta, he writes decent English at least, and he doesn't make your alliance look like a bunch of schoolboys.
If you are going to go on about people's English, you're definately going to see a post from me. The only time I will insult someone because of their spelling or grammar is when they do it to me. First off, in this situation you don't start off a sentence with "and". Next, you don't need a comma after "at least" as you are not in the process of stating several statements or making a list. Now f.a.g., go home and stop insulting people's English when you have no clue where they're from or what their native language is. Lets see you write out a paragraph in his first language and see how well you do.
Originally by: ParMizaN i mayv or may nit abe a bit drunk
Originally by: Buddrow TO THETR DRUMNBS OF WAR WET GHO
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pershphanie
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Posted - 2005.08.06 04:49:00 -
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Originally by: NiteOwl DAMN I MISS YOU SHLAGS!!! Not even a month has gone by since I sold my comp. Here I am D/Loading eve on my bros notebook just jonezing to play! =(
Unfortunatly thiis machine isnt worthy of anythng other than logging in once in a blue moon to change my skills!
The map looks good. I am a proud member of the 5 saying keep up the good work! =) cant wait to be back in action, fellas.... It will be fun!
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General Killah
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Posted - 2005.08.06 08:08:00 -
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Originally by: Zarthanon Edited by: Zarthanon on 06/08/2005 04:00:41
Originally by: Mort Dyken
Originally by: Light Darkness Foundation leave already GW.
We see Foundation with RA and Xetic in Tenerifis.
Regards /LD
LD, please take lessons in English AND in logical thinking:
I've seen your fleet in [5] territory a few days ago. Still I didn't hop on the forum claiming you guys are leaving GW.
And please let someone else handle official posts. I can't believe you're the best Veritas have for that task. Although I don't always agree with Headhunta, he writes decent English at least, and he doesn't make your alliance look like a bunch of schoolboys.
If you are going to go on about people's English, you're definately going to see a post from me. The only time I will insult someone because of their spelling or grammar is when they do it to me. First off, in this situation you don't start off a sentence with "and". Next, you don't need a comma after "at least" as you are not in the process of stating several statements or making a list. Now f.a.g., go home and stop insulting people's English when you have no clue where they're from or what their native language is. Lets see you write out a paragraph in his first language and see how well you do.
Again I agree with Zarth
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Katya Peti
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Posted - 2005.08.06 09:13:00 -
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Originally by: Mort Dyken
LD, please take lessons in English AND in logical thinking:
I've seen your fleet in [5] territory a few days ago. Still I didn't hop on the forum claiming you guys are leaving GW.
And please let someone else handle official posts. I can't believe you're the best Veritas have for that task. Although I don't always agree with Headhunta, he writes decent English at least, and he doesn't make your alliance look like a bunch of schoolboys.
ROFL!!
Originally by: Mort Dyken
LD, please take lessons in English AND in logical thinking:
Grammatical Errors: You must start sentences with a capital letter. This is an inappropriate use of caps in "AND". Colons are used to start a list; you can't just end a sentence with them.
Originally by: Mort Dyken
I've seen your fleet in [5] territory a few days ago. Still I didn't hop on the forum claiming you guys are leaving GW.
Grammatical Errors: This is incorrect tense (should be "I saw"). You need a comma after "Still". "On" should be "onto". You need to add the word "that" after the word "claiming".
Originally by: Mort Dyken
And please let someone else handle official posts. I can't believe you're the best Veritas have for that task. Although I don't always agree with Headhunta, he writes decent English at least, and he doesn't make your alliance look like a bunch of schoolboys.
Grammatical Errors: You need a comma before and after "please". "Veritas have" needs to be "Veritas has". ". . . he writes decent English at least. . " has an improper word order, it should be ". . . at least he writes decent English. . . ". The last sentence is a run-on sentence and needs to be split into two.
And you're telling people that they need English lessons? You have the grammatical skills of a mediocre eight-year-old. As for logical thinking, don't even get me started on that one.
Be nice and don't mock the language skills of others on here. Some people are young, and yet others don't write English very well as it's a second language for them.
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Mort Dyken
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Posted - 2005.08.06 09:58:00 -
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Edited by: Mort Dyken on 06/08/2005 10:44:51 Edited by: Mort Dyken on 06/08/2005 10:34:05 Edited by: Mort Dyken on 06/08/2005 10:33:38 Edited by: Mort Dyken on 06/08/2005 10:27:23 Some good points about my English, thanks for corrections. I don't agree with some of them of them though, as emphasizing stuff by using capital letters has become a forum convention, and I'm sure you understood well what I wanted to say. Colons are not only used to start a list: http://webster.commnet.edu/grammar/marks/colon.htm But some of the previous poster's remarks are undoubtedly true.
Back to the topic: LD used our trip to Tenerifis to point out we are leaving GW (Quote LD: "We see Foundation with RA and Xetic in Tenerifis. really NO defence from "F" here and ONLY piratery in GW from some "alone" pilots"). Yesterday they made a trip to Tenerifis themselves with most of their fleet. I resist the urge to declare V is leaving GW, as it would be silly. It is a contested region, and during the US timezone it is different from the European timezone. They may have a larger share of GW atm, but that's it.
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Light Darkness
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Posted - 2005.08.06 11:47:00 -
[305]
Edited by: Light Darkness on 06/08/2005 11:49:05
Originally by: Mort Dyken
Back to the topic: LD used our trip to Tenerifis to point out we are leaving GW (Quote LD: "We see Foundation with RA and Xetic in Tenerifis. really NO defence from "F" here and ONLY piratery in GW from some "alone" pilots").
- you (Foundation)already leave GW since weeks!!!
Originally by: Mort Dyken
Yesterday they made a trip to Tenerifis themselves with most of their fleet. I resist the urge to declare V is leaving GW, as it would be silly.
- V force helped thier allies in Tenerifis. 2nd reason: NO "F" enemys in GW-> boring !!! BTW: we knowed your "run" in GW in only frigs. We dont know why you "come out" if we stay away??? We come back into GW and NO enemys anymore after our "come back from Tenerifis" yesterday night (US-Timezone) .
Originally by: Mort Dyken
It is a contested region, and during the US timezone it is different from the European timezone. They may have a larger share of GW atm, but that's it.
- Isnt contested anymore. = -V- control "everytime"
- Euro or US timezone inst different. = in US timezone really NO action in GW (since weeks)
- we have a larger share....yes....and active in PvP!!!
Regards /LD
PS: Bad english.sry. But you know what i mean! ---------------------------------------------------------- *[- V -]-Fleet Admiral*
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Hast
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Posted - 2005.08.06 12:28:00 -
[306]
Originally by: Katya Peti
Originally by: Mort Dyken
LD, please take lessons in English AND in logical thinking:
I've seen your fleet in [5] territory a few days ago. Still I didn't hop on the forum claiming you guys are leaving GW.
And please let someone else handle official posts. I can't believe you're the best Veritas have for that task. Although I don't always agree with Headhunta, he writes decent English at least, and he doesn't make your alliance look like a bunch of schoolboys.
ROFL!!
Originally by: Mort Dyken
LD, please take lessons in English AND in logical thinking:
Grammatical Errors: You must start sentences with a capital letter. This is an inappropriate use of caps in "AND". Colons are used to start a list; you can't just end a sentence with them.
Originally by: Mort Dyken
I've seen your fleet in [5] territory a few days ago. Still I didn't hop on the forum claiming you guys are leaving GW.
Grammatical Errors: This is incorrect tense (should be "I saw"). You need a comma after "Still". "On" should be "onto". You need to add the word "that" after the word "claiming".
Originally by: Mort Dyken
And please let someone else handle official posts. I can't believe you're the best Veritas have for that task. Although I don't always agree with Headhunta, he writes decent English at least, and he doesn't make your alliance look like a bunch of schoolboys.
Grammatical Errors: You need a comma before and after "please". "Veritas have" needs to be "Veritas has". ". . . he writes decent English at least. . " has an improper word order, it should be ". . . at least he writes decent English. . . ". The last sentence is a run-on sentence and needs to be split into two.
And you're telling people that they need English lessons? You have the grammatical skills of a mediocre eight-year-old. As for logical thinking, don't even get me started on that one.
Be nice and don't mock the language skills of others on here. Some people are young, and yet others don't write English very well as it's a second language for them.
Oh, and take some English lessons.
lmao, the smackdown 
pwned
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Cartiff
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Posted - 2005.08.06 12:43:00 -
[307]
boom power
Cartiff, CEO Euphoria Released NBSI 4TW
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Tr4XX
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Posted - 2005.08.06 13:13:00 -
[308]
perhaps we need 10 more shnr members to say something like "pwnd" to make it a true eve-online forum thread
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Entschlossen
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Posted - 2005.08.06 14:05:00 -
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@ Foundation, you controlled GW for exactly 5 minutes today, enough time to built up a medium bobble, which was destroyed immediatley after your little gang started to run.
Theres no shame to avoid a fight if you dont have the numbers, but if you dont have them and only engage in cheap T1 cruiser/frigs and a few BS its no wonder we rule you everytime. There was NO battle we lost the last weeks (i mean we are good but not that good, i am missing the will to fight and to loose something on your side)
Please engage us with all you have, because we would prefer some nice fights rather than a claimed region.
Greetings Entschlossen
PS: btw if you are a Foundation member that never saw us the last weeks, you will find us in GW 
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ParMizaN
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Posted - 2005.08.06 14:24:00 -
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Take your bickering and accusations to another thread: This thread is just to let joshua know what changes to make to the map, not to discuss battles with another alliance or anything else for that matter.
/end hijack ------------------
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HeadHunta II
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Posted - 2005.08.06 23:55:00 -
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Originally by: ParMizaN Take your bickering and accusations to another thread: This thread is just to let joshua know what changes to make to the map, not to discuss battles with another alliance or anything else for that matter.
/end hijack
Totally agree. Lets keep at least this thread clean. And only official PR guys should post here anyway. This should count for all alliances and their members. The reply¦s here especially to our first statements were not made by officials of Foundation as far as i can see. Those posts only provoke other alliance-members to counter again, which is not very useful in this thread and also result in more work for the map-maker.
Since the claiming of areas is based on negotiations with official alliance-members (one partie has to admit something, the others have to request) its hard sometimes, especially if you have enemys who just dont admit a defeat. So only the map-maker can decide in this case, if i am correct.
"-V- Vice President" "-V- Minister of Foreign affairs" "CEO Ascendancy-Inc."
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Raeff
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Posted - 2005.08.07 03:50:00 -
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if any 1 alliance controls GW more than the others its [5] .. -V- is ONLY still in GW because of them , and i'd like to see you even try to deny that
we are bored with having to deal with -V- calling in 5 to help them EVERY time we match their fleets, so we changed tactics .. we still occasionally put up a decent fleet, but mainly its small attack groups
GW is still very much contested
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Joshua Foiritain
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Posted - 2005.08.07 09:11:00 -
[313]
1 whole week without eve, or a computer for that matter; Horrible 
The following changes are on the list; Great Wildlands Still havent been able to decide what to do with the region. How many active POS does F have running there? (Evemail me if F doesnt want the number to be public) V seems to be mostly killing F's in the EOK surroundings while F is booking kills further out?
Tenerifis Xetic seems to have captured a station for a while now and has been setting up POS'. Region will most likely be marked as contested.
Tenal Voices tell me Xelas died, any official annoucement from their side about their death and the leaving of the region? Voices also said Bob are back up there looking for action, who claims the Tenal region now?
Fountain Xanada died/left Fa/What happend? Fa falling apart? Xelas moved into Fountain as well it seems?
Feel free to comment/point out anything i missed.
PS: Next time i see flaming going on about someones ability to spell i will get upset and ask Zrakor if heads can roll because of it  ------------------
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thoth foc
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Posted - 2005.08.07 09:45:00 -
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Originally by: Raeff if any 1 alliance controls GW more than the others its [5] ..
we have considered GW uncontested and in the control of -V- for ages..
--thoth
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MAXSuicide
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Posted - 2005.08.07 09:50:00 -
[315]
Edited by: MAXSuicide on 07/08/2005 09:50:30
Originally by: Joshua Foiritain 1 whole week without eve, or a computer for that matter; Horrible 
did you have 2 screaming whining little girls with u aswell? i did. 
'tis a good job ur doing here josh ;)
My vids and random stuff
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Edoo
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Posted - 2005.08.07 10:33:00 -
[316]
Originally by: Joshua Foiritain 1 whole week without eve, or a computer for that matter; Horrible 
The following changes are on the list; Great Wildlands Still havent been able to decide what to do with the region. How many active POS does F have running there? (Evemail me if F doesnt want the number to be public) V seems to be mostly killing F's in the EOK surroundings while F is booking kills further out?
Tenerifis Xetic seems to have captured a station for a while now and has been setting up POS'. Region will most likely be marked as contested.
Tenal Voices tell me Xelas died, any official annoucement from their side about their death and the leaving of the region? Voices also said Bob are back up there looking for action, who claims the Tenal region now?
Fountain Xanada died/left Fa/What happend? Fa falling apart? Xelas moved into Fountain as well it seems?
Feel free to comment/point out anything i missed.
PS: Next time i see flaming going on about someones ability to spell i will get upset and ask Zrakor if heads can roll because of it 
Yes, Tenal is no longer contested and is under full PA control. NBSI alliance should also be marked in as living in the area. Great Wildlands is a warzone i figure, Tenerifis seems contested, but it will probably not remain this way for long, and Fountain should be Xelas, 'within BoB' if you know what i mean. --------------------------------- My posts represent my own views unless i state otherwise
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HeadHunta II
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Posted - 2005.08.07 11:47:00 -
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Originally by: Raeff if any 1 alliance controls GW more than the others its [5] .. -V- is ONLY still in GW because of them , and i'd like to see you even try to deny that
we are bored with having to deal with -V- calling in 5 to help them EVERY time we match their fleets, so we changed tactics .. we still occasionally put up a decent fleet, but mainly its small attack groups
GW is still very much contested
Ok, i tried it to not offend anyone with my post before, tried it to keep it smacktalk free, but complete lies like this above beats me. I have nothing to add. Especially if it comes from a pilot who was not even involved in any pvp-actions according to our killboards as far as i could see. Well, this just beats me and makes me speechless.
"-V- Vice President" "-V- Minister of Foreign affairs" "CEO Ascendancy-Inc."
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DB Preacher
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Posted - 2005.08.07 14:05:00 -
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Originally by: Edoo
Yes, Tenal is no longer contested and is under full PA control. NBSI alliance should also be marked in as living in the area. Great Wildlands is a warzone i figure, Tenerifis seems contested, but it will probably not remain this way for long, and Fountain should be Xelas, 'within BoB' if you know what i mean.
Told you before, don't talk rubbish about BoB if you have no clue what you are talking about.
Xelas are not part of BoB. Xelas are a separate alliance who co-habit Fountain with BoB at the minute.
FA are gone completely.
thx dbp
Current RKK Ranking: (CAL4) Soldier
Drop by and say hi in Reikoku Forums.
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Amthrianius
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Posted - 2005.08.07 14:19:00 -
[319]
Xetic PoS's destroyed, [5] hold station, no need for the contested ;) ---------------
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ParMizaN
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Posted - 2005.08.07 15:24:00 -
[320]
Originally by: DB Preacher
Originally by: Edoo
Yes, Tenal is no longer contested and is under full PA control. NBSI alliance should also be marked in as living in the area. Great Wildlands is a warzone i figure, Tenerifis seems contested, but it will probably not remain this way for long, and Fountain should be Xelas, 'within BoB' if you know what i mean.
Told you before, don't talk rubbish about BoB if you have no clue what you are talking about.
Xelas are not part of BoB. Xelas are a separate alliance who co-habit Fountain with BoB at the minute.
FA are gone completely.
thx dbp
umm i dont think he was dbp :\ think he just meant that the xelas tag on the map should be inside fountain under bob ------------------
Take from the rich and give to me |
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Raeff
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Posted - 2005.08.07 15:54:00 -
[321]
Edited by: Raeff on 07/08/2005 15:55:56
Originally by: HeadHunta II Ok, i tried it to not offend anyone with my post before, tried it to keep it smacktalk free, but complete lies like this above beats me. I have nothing to add. Especially if it comes from a pilot who was not even involved in any pvp-actions according to our killboards as far as i could see. Well, this just beats me and makes me speechless.
and how did i smack? its the truth
and as for the killboard comment, it only proves how incomplete your killboard is .. i'll admit i'm not on THAT many, and until they make folks that scram and jam show up on the killmail, i guess i wont be on that many
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Raeff
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Posted - 2005.08.07 17:10:00 -
[322]
Edited by: Raeff on 07/08/2005 17:10:53
Originally by: Joshua Foiritain 1 whole week without eve, or a computer for that matter; Horrible 
The following changes are on the list; Great Wildlands Still havent been able to decide what to do with the region. How many active POS does F have running there? (Evemail me if F doesnt want the number to be public) V seems to be mostly killing F's in the EOK surroundings while F is booking kills further out?
ya, that covers it pretty much .. we still got around a dozen or so in the region that are still quite fueled and we are able to move the fuel to the stations quite easily .. -V- seems to have a slightly larger military force than us stationed in the area, but neither of us can effectively say we control the region yet(we=foundation)
-V- guys just have slightly better forum skill than us or we might comment more
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LoxyRider
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Posted - 2005.08.07 17:25:00 -
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Originally by: Joshua Foiritain
Tenerifis Xetic seems to have captured a station for a while now and has been setting up POS'. Region will most likely be marked as contested.
Wb first of all :).
Xetic took the station on thursday, the system its in is a difficult one as there are only 4 moons. On friday we took down one of the XF pos into re-enforced mode, this was changed by the GMs for certain reasons i wont start up here.
Saturday night 2 XF pos were put into re-enforced mode. Today one of those finished and has been destroyed and replaced. The soverignty was lost as re-enforced pos do not count towards it so the station has been re taken. At this time we are waiting for the second pos to come out of re-enforced mode when it will be destroyed and replaced as well.
XF's control of the station lasted 3 days and has now been lost. No need for any changes to the tenerifis region. ----- Eris Discordia; I think the proper term is <3
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Light Darkness
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Posted - 2005.08.07 22:48:00 -
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Quiet pls Raeff. I saw you since weeks anymore in GW or on a BF 
If you mean you claim a region with POS is wrong.
We tolerated atm the POS in GW and we concentrated us on your pilots.
Your tactic is only to post in forums if you see we are right.
GW = claimed by -V- (+allied)
Regards ---------------------------------------------------------- *[- V -]-Fleet Admiral*
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Zandramus
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Posted - 2005.08.08 03:21:00 -
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Cruel Intentions Alliance [CRUEL] made up of SAS-VOC and other member corporations, and RO Alliance are peacefully co-habitating the Geminate Region and are NAP'ed.
Vale of the Silent... Cruel Intentions Alliance ownes the refinery in LS-JEP, SMASH own the factory in JZV, and Im not sure who own's the Cloning station.
ATM there is no fighting in Geminate and it is peaceful.
Zandramus
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Zhuge Liang

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Posted - 2005.08.08 08:36:00 -
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Please post where you need a clean up to joshua.
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Edoo
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Posted - 2005.08.08 08:39:00 -
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Edited by: Edoo on 08/08/2005 08:39:48
Originally by: DB Preacher
Originally by: Edoo
Yes, Tenal is no longer contested and is under full PA control. NBSI alliance should also be marked in as living in the area. Great Wildlands is a warzone i figure, Tenerifis seems contested, but it will probably not remain this way for long, and Fountain should be Xelas, 'within BoB' if you know what i mean.
Told you before, don't talk rubbish about BoB if you have no clue what you are talking about.
Xelas are not part of BoB. Xelas are a separate alliance who co-habit Fountain with BoB at the minute.
FA are gone completely.
thx dbp
Chill lol, I don't think you quite understood my post. When i said within BoB i mean the Xelas colour has the BoB colour around it (Rather like how Quarath showed the Northern Coalition of allies). --------------------------------- My posts represent my own views unless i state otherwise
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pershphanie
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Posted - 2005.08.08 08:42:00 -
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Originally by: Joshua Foiritain
Tenal Voices tell me Xelas died, any official annoucement from their side about their death and the leaving of the region? Voices also said Bob are back up there looking for action, who claims the Tenal region now? [
Xelas are still alive and kicking, however they have been removed from tenal by the northern allied forces. Xelas is now a BoB protectorate residing in fountain. After playing a large role in kicking Xelas out (amazing what they did in v7-mid) NBSI is now residing in tenal. |

DB Preacher
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Posted - 2005.08.08 09:29:00 -
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Originally by: Edoo
Chill lol, I don't think you quite understood my post. When i said within BoB i mean the Xelas colour has the BoB colour around it (Rather like how Quarath showed the Northern Coalition of allies).
I understood your post perfectly and allow me to re-iterate what I said above.
You worry about your own alliance and the space it contains and how it should be shown on the map and let us inform the mapmaker of our territory.
Thx, dbp
Current RKK Ranking: (CAL4) Soldier
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pershphanie
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Posted - 2005.08.08 09:37:00 -
[330]
Originally by: DB Preacher
Originally by: Edoo
Chill lol, I don't think you quite understood my post. When i said within BoB i mean the Xelas colour has the BoB colour around it (Rather like how Quarath showed the Northern Coalition of allies).
I understood your post perfectly and allow me to re-iterate what I said above.
You worry about your own alliance and the space it contains and how it should be shown on the map and let us inform the mapmaker of our territory.
Thx, dbp
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Cartiff
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Posted - 2005.08.08 11:31:00 -
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Edited by: Cartiff on 08/08/2005 11:31:23 Indeed, Tenal is now NBSI Territory
Xelas now live in Fountain with BOB
Cartiff, CEO Euphoria Released NBSI 4TW
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Sir JoJo
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Posted - 2005.08.08 16:57:00 -
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Originally by: Raeff if any 1 alliance controls GW more than the others its [5] .. -V- is ONLY still in GW because of them , and i'd like to see you even try to deny that
we are bored with having to deal with -V- calling in 5 to help them EVERY time we match their fleets, so we changed tactics .. we still occasionally put up a decent fleet, but mainly its small attack groups
GW is still very much contested
TBH -v- handles GW just fine them self...
.5. only comes there when there arent much else to do and mostly in smal frigs squads...
but JF go take a look POS dont really claim anything but the player base in the area does. ------------- Be a warrior in game Not on forums ------------- |

Joshua Foiritain
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Posted - 2005.08.08 18:34:00 -
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Originally by: Zandramus Cruel Intentions Alliance [CRUEL] made up of SAS-VOC and other member corporations, and RO Alliance are peacefully co-habitating the Geminate Region and are NAP'ed.
Vale of the Silent... Cruel Intentions Alliance ownes the refinery in LS-JEP, SMASH own the factory in JZV, and Im not sure who own's the Cloning station.
ATM there is no fighting in Geminate and it is peaceful.
Smash and Cruel are still fighting over Vale/Geminate? ------------------
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General Killah
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Posted - 2005.08.08 18:58:00 -
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We only raid Geminate anymore, we don't claim it, we left it to RO Alliance until they NAPed [CI] We do however claim Vale, and there's fighting both there and Tribute. ---------------------------------
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JoCool
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Posted - 2005.08.08 20:17:00 -
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To the 8.8.2005 map - I wonder why Imperium owns Syndicate. Last time I checked they didn't even claimed it. It's basically a zone where pirates live in, they have hardly control at all, you got something wrong there. It couldn't even count as contested. IMP is in Outer Ring.
Please visit Syndicate, Joshua.
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Larno
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Posted - 2005.08.08 21:36:00 -
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SE space only goes up to and including the B-3QPD system in catch.
Linkage
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Zandramus
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Posted - 2005.08.08 23:54:00 -
[337]
Originally by: Joshua Foiritain
Originally by: Zandramus Cruel Intentions Alliance [CRUEL] made up of SAS-VOC and other member corporations, and RO Alliance are peacefully co-habitating the Geminate Region and are NAP'ed.
Vale of the Silent... Cruel Intentions Alliance ownes the refinery in LS-JEP, SMASH own the factory in JZV, and Im not sure who own's the Cloning station.
ATM there is no fighting in Geminate and it is peaceful.
Smash and Cruel are still fighting over Vale/Geminate?
No, Cruel and RO are in Geminate and are peaceful to each other , SMASH are living in Vale in JZV and own the station there. CRUEL own the refinery in Vale in LS-Jep so Vale is contested Geminate is not. Zandramus
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Zandramus
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Posted - 2005.08.09 00:00:00 -
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Originally by: General Killah We only raid Geminate anymore, we don't claim it, we left it to RO Alliance until they NAPed [CI] We do however claim Vale, and there's fighting both there and Tribute.
Our alliance Ticker is [CRUEL] Not [CI]
Thanks
Zandramus
S.A.S
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nico wurz250
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Posted - 2005.08.09 06:57:00 -
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It seems Tenerifis is still a peacefully place where only .5. has POS and pilots in. Of course the only one witch have a station, at the moment lol. . Support your local xetic member !
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The Enslaver
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Posted - 2005.08.09 11:11:00 -
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Originally by: nico wurz250 It seems Tenerifis is still a peacefully place where only .5. has POS and pilots in. Of course the only one witch have a station, at the moment lol.
An area turning into a warzone for three days does not make it contested, or even make it a real warzone... --------
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Lilan Kahn
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Posted - 2005.08.09 13:57:00 -
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mar d4ku as contested rest of fountain is firmly in bob controll
ps i hope this post brings up more fa to shot we are lacking ppl to shot thx in advance !
Originally by: Eris Discordia
We break after X amount of threads, then we go wild and then we get our medication.
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Alasse Cuthalion
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Posted - 2005.08.09 14:17:00 -
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Edited by: Alasse Cuthalion on 09/08/2005 14:17:16 What Lilan said, Fountain is firmly under control of BoB and Xelas, you can leave the "FA vs BoB" icon if you must, I suppose they do send a frigate a day as a sort of sacrifice.
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DB Preacher
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Posted - 2005.08.09 15:03:00 -
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Edited by: DB Preacher on 09/08/2005 15:04:03 Alasse, Lilan, I've already answered above for this.
Please read you newbs and stop spamming the thread.
thx, dbp
Current RKK Ranking: (CAL4) Soldier
Drop by and say hi in Reikoku Forums.
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Alter Mann
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Posted - 2005.08.09 16:40:00 -
[344]
according to bobs killboard, IMP sends more pilots then fountain =)
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MegaJ
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Posted - 2005.08.09 18:01:00 -
[345]
Originally by: General Killah We only raid Geminate anymore, we don't claim it, we left it to RO Alliance until they NAPed [CI] We do however claim Vale, and there's fighting both there and Tribute.
How can you claim Vale when you don't even own all the conq stations... Cruel Intentions owns the LS-JEP station and claim sovereignty there and you own JZV-F4 and claim sovereignty. So Vale should be marked contested between SMASH & Cruel Intentions and perhaps F-E alliance since nobody bothered to take over the crappy cloning station in ZLZ-1Z.
Furthermore please mark Geminate controlled by Cruel Intentions + RO Alliance (NAP).
Thank you.
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Alasse Cuthalion
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Posted - 2005.08.09 18:02:00 -
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Originally by: DB Preacher Edited by: DB Preacher on 09/08/2005 15:04:03 Alasse, Lilan, I've already answered above for this.
Please read you newbs and stop spamming the thread.
thx, dbp
Well **** me if I can be arsed reading seven pages of drivel from the likes of you ;)
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Awalance
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Posted - 2005.08.09 18:35:00 -
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Edited by: Awalance on 09/08/2005 18:36:00 we make alot of posts abaut germinate but i beleve map maker didnt see it .I will repeat myself:
Geminate is controled by RO alliance and Cruel Intentions ,i hope i make myself clear . Valey is contested betwen Cruel Intensions and SMASH alliance.
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Zandramus
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Posted - 2005.08.09 19:36:00 -
[348]
Originally by: MegaJ
Originally by: General Killah We only raid Geminate anymore, we don't claim it, we left it to RO Alliance until they NAPed [CI] We do however claim Vale, and there's fighting both there and Tribute.
How can you claim Vale when you don't even own all the conq stations... Cruel Intentions owns the LS-JEP station and claim sovereignty there and you own JZV-F4 and claim sovereignty. So Vale should be marked contested between SMASH & Cruel Intentions and perhaps F-E alliance since nobody bothered to take over the crappy cloning station in ZLZ-1Z.
Furthermore please mark Geminate controlled by Cruel Intentions + RO Alliance (NAP).
Thank you.
Bout time you got back from vacation, im tired of doing your job...
Now back to the forum whorage....
Zandramus
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General Killah
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Posted - 2005.08.09 20:47:00 -
[349]
Originally by: MegaJ
Originally by: General Killah We only raid Geminate anymore, we don't claim it, we left it to RO Alliance until they NAPed [CI] We do however claim Vale, and there's fighting both there and Tribute.
How can you claim Vale when you don't even own all the conq stations... Cruel Intentions owns the LS-JEP station and claim sovereignty there and you own JZV-F4 and claim sovereignty. So Vale should be marked contested between SMASH & Cruel Intentions and perhaps F-E alliance since nobody bothered to take over the crappy cloning station in ZLZ-1Z.
Furthermore please mark Geminate controlled by Cruel Intentions + RO Alliance (NAP).
Thank you.
ZLZ is so worthless, doubt anyone will even bother taking it. ---------------------------------
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Dirty Knave
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Posted - 2005.08.09 21:00:00 -
[350]
Like I said F-E is also in the northern part of Vale. We at least have to travel through part of Vale to get to our stations from Empire. We also fight in Vale.
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The Cosmopolite
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Posted - 2005.08.10 12:47:00 -
[351]
Jericho Fraction and Omerta Syndicate are conducting guerilla warfare operations against PA/IRON/G/FE and the allies of those alliances and will be doing so for the foreseeable future.
I would suggest you add a number for us to the Pure Blind warzone marker.
This has just been a statement of fact aimed at helping the mapmaker.
Regards,
Cosmo
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Dianabolic
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Posted - 2005.08.10 15:30:00 -
[352]
Originally by: General Killah
Originally by: MegaJ
Originally by: General Killah We only raid Geminate anymore, we don't claim it, we left it to RO Alliance until they NAPed [CI] We do however claim Vale, and there's fighting both there and Tribute.
How can you claim Vale when you don't even own all the conq stations... Cruel Intentions owns the LS-JEP station and claim sovereignty there and you own JZV-F4 and claim sovereignty. So Vale should be marked contested between SMASH & Cruel Intentions and perhaps F-E alliance since nobody bothered to take over the crappy cloning station in ZLZ-1Z.
Furthermore please mark Geminate controlled by Cruel Intentions + RO Alliance (NAP).
Thank you.
ZLZ is so worthless, doubt anyone will even bother taking it.
How little you know.
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Raeff
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Posted - 2005.08.10 18:47:00 -
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Originally by: Light Darkness Quiet pls Raeff. I saw you since weeks anymore in GW or on a BF 
If you mean you claim a region with POS is wrong.
We tolerated atm the POS in GW and we concentrated us on your pilots.
Your tactic is only to post in forums if you see we are right.
GW = claimed by -V- (+allied)
Regards
ALL my time but maybe 20 minutes a week is spent in GW .. and NOT docked or safe spotted .. if any of my posts seemed like flames i apologize(rough last 2 weeks at work) .. i do not hate -V- or you LD, i just dont particularly care much for reading post after post of how you own GW 24/7 .. sure you for the most part control a few key systems like eo2/m-m/8yc and sure you have us outnumbered military wise currently, but POS's or not, we still travel quite freely through GW and work out of it .. THATS my point
pre patch, the tables were turned and Foundation controlled more of GW than -V- .. since the patch, we have lost numerous corps and players(to other things besides our dispute over GW), so we are now at a dissadvantage and finding more and more -V- flocking to GW.
thats from MY viewpoint, and thats how i see GW
i don't hate -V-, i HATE .5.
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Kyle Caldrel
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Posted - 2005.08.11 00:01:00 -
[354]
Originally by: Raeff
i don't hate -V-, i HATE .5.
buhu?
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FalloutBoy
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Posted - 2005.08.11 00:31:00 -
[355]
you know what would make life a hell of alot easier? get rid of contested and uncontested. just have a warzone marker and call it that.
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NAFnist
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Posted - 2005.08.11 11:19:00 -
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Originally by: FalloutBoy you know what would make life a hell of alot easier? get rid of contested and uncontested. just have a warzone marker and call it that.
I agree ___________ ROA Killboard
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Zandramus
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Posted - 2005.08.11 12:17:00 -
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Edited by: Zandramus on 11/08/2005 12:21:38 Can we expect an update anytime soon that actually reflects what we have been putting in the forum for the last 3 weeks.
Let me re-itterate for the hundreth time.
Geminate Region
Geminate Region is owned by Cruel Intentions and the RO alliance these 2 alliances are working together and there is no fighting in Geminate
Changes needed
please remove the contested status and the warzone.
Vale of the Silent Region
Vale of the Silent is Contested between Cruel Intentions who have owned the station in LS-JEP for the last 3 weeks. Smash Alliance who ownes the station in JZV, and F-E Corporation who ownes the cloning Station who are not part of F-E alliance. F-E alliance flies through part of Vale to get to tribute but do not reside there.
Changes Needed
Please remove the sole ownership of Vale of the Silent from F-E Alliance and mark it contested by Cruel Intentions and SMASH alliance. Thank you
Zandramus
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sapage1
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Posted - 2005.08.11 12:50:00 -
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Warzone #5 can be removed.
Thank you. ___________________________________________________ Imperium vs 5ive
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Hawkings SJ
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Posted - 2005.08.11 13:40:00 -
[359]
Originally by: The Cosmopolite Jericho Fraction and Omerta Syndicate are conducting guerilla warfare operations against PA/IRON/G/FE and the allies of those alliances and will be doing so for the foreseeable future.
I would suggest you add a number for us to the Pure Blind warzone marker.
This has just been a statement of fact aimed at helping the mapmaker.
Regards,
Cosmo
I believe he has this marker in place already : (1) Pirate Infestation.
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Abominable
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Posted - 2005.08.11 14:07:00 -
[360]
Edited by: Abominable on 11/08/2005 14:11:46 Can any imps confirm that they actually claim syndicate? I thought they only claimed Outer Ring.
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The Cosmopolite
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Posted - 2005.08.11 16:01:00 -
[361]
Originally by: Hawkings SJ
Originally by: The Cosmopolite Jericho Fraction and Omerta Syndicate are conducting guerilla warfare operations against PA/IRON/G/FE and the allies of those alliances and will be doing so for the foreseeable future.
I would suggest you add a number for us to the Pure Blind warzone marker.
This has just been a statement of fact aimed at helping the mapmaker.
Regards,
Cosmo
I believe he has this marker in place already : (1) Pirate Infestation.
A joke that becomes increasingly grey and whiskery with every passing day. As a serious suggestion it has equal merit as suggesting that all player-alliance-held space have a pirate infestation marker.
Cosmo
PS. 
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sapage1
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Posted - 2005.08.11 16:07:00 -
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Originally by: Abominable Edited by: Abominable on 11/08/2005 14:11:46 Can any imps confirm that they actually claim syndicate? I thought they only claimed Outer Ring.
confirmed ___________________________________________________ Imperium vs 5ive
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danneh
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Posted - 2005.08.11 17:00:00 -
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Originally by: sapage1
Originally by: Abominable Edited by: Abominable on 11/08/2005 14:11:46 Can any imps confirm that they actually claim syndicate? I thought they only claimed Outer Ring.
confirmed
Havent seen u anywhere exept from PF camp time from time.
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Hawkings SJ
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Posted - 2005.08.11 18:12:00 -
[364]
Your right, that really isn't fair to the pirates.
(1b) Roleplayer Infestation
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The Cosmopolite
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Posted - 2005.08.11 18:18:00 -
[365]
Originally by: Hawkings SJ
(1b) Roleplayer Infestation
Badge of Honour.
Cosmo
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Raeff
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Posted - 2005.08.11 18:41:00 -
[366]
Originally by: Kyle Caldrel
Originally by: Raeff
i don't hate -V-, i HATE .5.
buhu?
*Raeff yawns
how bout replying to someones post that gives a **** what you think   
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Kyle Caldrel
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Posted - 2005.08.11 23:29:00 -
[367]
Originally by: Raeff
Originally by: Kyle Caldrel
Originally by: Raeff
i don't hate -V-, i HATE .5.
buhu?
*Raeff yawns
how bout replying to someones post that gives a **** what you think   
Tuck your tail between your legs and run boy.
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Raeff
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Posted - 2005.08.12 04:06:00 -
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Edited by: Raeff on 12/08/2005 04:06:52
Originally by: Kyle Caldrel Tuck your tail between your legs and run boy.
aparently you didnt read my reply correctly little one 
now lets stop cluttering the nice persons post, you got something to add i'll be happy to help you via evemail .. actually no, nevermind .. im done with you anyway 
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Joshua Foiritain
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Posted - 2005.08.12 10:31:00 -
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Map update coming up soonÖ, interesting to see Mill. left Foundation... ------------------
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pershphanie
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Posted - 2005.08.12 10:34:00 -
[370]
Originally by: The Cosmopolite Jericho Fraction and Omerta Syndicate are conducting guerilla warfare operations against PA/IRON/G/FE and the allies of those alliances and will be doing so for the foreseeable future.
I would suggest you add a number for us to the Pure Blind warzone marker.
This has just been a statement of fact aimed at helping the mapmaker.
Regards,
Cosmo
JF does not have enough of an impact on anything in game to warrent a marker. If you want to place a warezone marker for JF place it over the forums, the only place they can do any damage. |
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Lord Stone
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Posted - 2005.08.12 10:47:00 -
[371]
In a totally impartial way, could a forum mod PLEASE clean this thread of flames. I don't want to see this map thread go the way of the old one.
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Eddie Gordo
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Posted - 2005.08.12 11:08:00 -
[372]
Originally by: HeadHunta II
Originally by: Raeff if any 1 alliance controls GW more than the others its [5] .. -V- is ONLY still in GW because of them , and i'd like to see you even try to deny that
we are bored with having to deal with -V- calling in 5 to help them EVERY time we match their fleets, so we changed tactics .. we still occasionally put up a decent fleet, but mainly its small attack groups
GW is still very much contested
Ok, i tried it to not offend anyone with my post before, tried it to keep it smacktalk free, but complete lies like this above beats me. I have nothing to add. Especially if it comes from a pilot who was not even involved in any pvp-actions according to our killboards as far as i could see. Well, this just beats me and makes me speechless.
your killboards wont mention times when you out-blob people, because no fight will have taken place. Not taking sides, just pointing something out.
Instas??
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The Cosmopolite
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Posted - 2005.08.12 12:20:00 -
[373]
Originally by: pershphanie
Originally by: The Cosmopolite Jericho Fraction and Omerta Syndicate are conducting guerilla warfare operations against PA/IRON/G/FE and the allies of those alliances and will be doing so for the foreseeable future.
I would suggest you add a number for us to the Pure Blind warzone marker.
This has just been a statement of fact aimed at helping the mapmaker.
Regards,
Cosmo
JF does not have enough of an impact on anything in game to warrent a marker. If you want to place a warezone marker for JF place it over the forums, the only place they can do any damage.
I'm content to leave that judgement to the mapmaker and refuse to stoop to your level on a thread that is for smack-free exchange of information.
Cosmo
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Joshua Foiritain
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Posted - 2005.08.12 12:43:00 -
[374]
Originally by: The Cosmopolite Jericho Fraction and Omerta Syndicate are conducting guerilla warfare operations against PA/IRON/G/FE and the allies of those alliances and will be doing so for the foreseeable future.
I would suggest you add a number for us to the Pure Blind warzone marker.
I was wondering what the reason(s) behind this war is/are?
@Zhuge Liang; All of the posts between yours and this one can be deleted  ------------------
[Coreli Corporation Mainframe] |

The Cosmopolite
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Posted - 2005.08.12 13:10:00 -
[375]
Edited by: The Cosmopolite on 12/08/2005 13:10:22
Originally by: Joshua Foiritain
Originally by: The Cosmopolite Jericho Fraction and Omerta Syndicate are conducting guerilla warfare operations against PA/IRON/G/FE and the allies of those alliances and will be doing so for the foreseeable future.
I would suggest you add a number for us to the Pure Blind warzone marker.
I was wondering what the reason(s) behind this war is/are?
@Zhuge Liang; All of the posts between yours and this one can be deleted 
The basic reasons for beginning the war are set out here.
Jericho Fraction and Omerta Syndicate do not consider the withdrawal and relocation of our friends and allies Xelas Alliance from Tenal as a reason to cease our hostilities against PA and those Northern entities that have decided that friendship with one group necessitates enmity with another.
Therefore the conflict continues. Many organisations have said that 'JF is KOS forever!', 'JF needs to be wiped from the face of EVE', 'O-SYN are a nothing corp', 'JF/O-SYN only cause damage on the forums.' Such statements bring their own reward.
We do not presume to speak for others but our two closely co-operating corps will work with any ally, be they traditional friends, new friends or even merely the enemy of our enemy, in the prosecution of hostilities against the Northern Tyrants and their Vassals.
The decision is yours to make with regard to the map, Joshua, but we're in the North for the foreseeable and the empty smack of others is not going to dissuade us.
Cosmo
Jericho Fraction - CEO: Jade Constantine |

Joshua Foiritain
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Posted - 2005.08.12 13:20:00 -
[376]
Okay, itll be included in the next update. ------------------
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Hawkings SJ
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Posted - 2005.08.12 14:03:00 -
[377]
I'm not sure why the JF/O-SYN fight against a few of the northern corps would warrent a marker of its own. At most its a minor fight, one of many dozens that occur in any region, alliance held or not. There is no territory being disputed or claimed, no threat to the continued existance of an alliance and the scale of the fighting is likely to be tiny.
It's your call, but I would say that JF / O-SYN vs Northern alliances would still fall well into a generic "Pirate Infestation" marker.
Or my suggestion of "Roleplayer Infestation", which more accuratly describes the level of threat this presents.
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Zzazzt
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Posted - 2005.08.12 14:05:00 -
[378]
Originally by: Lord Stone In a totally impartial way, could a forum mod PLEASE clean this thread of flames. I don't want to see this map thread go the way of the old one.
/signed
Back in your box now Raeffy...  ____________________________________________
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The Ratfink
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Posted - 2005.08.12 14:38:00 -
[379]
Erm its quite obvious fountain is no longer contested and BoB own the region isn't it about time the map gets updated to reflect this long standing change?
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Lord Stone
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Posted - 2005.08.12 15:28:00 -
[380]
Originally by: The Ratfink Erm its quite obvious fountain is no longer contested and BoB own the region isn't it about time the map gets updated to reflect this long standing change?
what map are you looking at?
BoB is marked owner of Fountain....
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The Ratfink
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Posted - 2005.08.12 15:30:00 -
[381]
Originally by: The Ratfink Erm its quite obvious fountain is no longer contested and BoB own the region isn't it about time the map gets updated to reflect this long standing change?
I think i forgot to refresh 
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The Cosmopolite
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Posted - 2005.08.12 15:53:00 -
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Originally by: Hawkings SJ I'm not sure why the JF/O-SYN fight against a few of the northern corps would warrent a marker of its own. At most its a minor fight, one of many dozens that occur in any region, alliance held or not. There is no territory being disputed or claimed, no threat to the continued existance of an alliance and the scale of the fighting is likely to be tiny.
It's your call, but I would say that JF / O-SYN vs Northern alliances would still fall well into a generic "Pirate Infestation" marker.
Or my suggestion of "Roleplayer Infestation", which more accuratly describes the level of threat this presents.
Your ignorance is exemplified in your post in a number of respects.
1) The word 'few' hardly describes the ranks of PA, NBSI, FE, G, IRON and the vassals of IRON that have heeded the call of their master to war on us as a mangy cur heeds its drunken master.
2) The fighting ranges across the entire North. Its scale is quite big enough.
3) We repudiate the claims of the Northern Axis to their various territories.
4) We are not pirates, despite jokes (now getting old) that we are happy to take on the chin. We do not shoot neutrals first and declare changes to standings in advance (unlike certain pro-IRON corps which declared their change from +ve to -ve to us with gunfire).
5) Yes, we are roleplayers and proud of it. Moreover if it is your contention that roleplayers are no threat whatsoever in 0.0 warfare you have a somewhat strange way of endearing yourself to the present mapmaker.
Whatever the case, I leave it to him and will not cavil at his decision. (Though I anticipate groans and moans from other quarters if the mapmaker awards us a marker.)
I've tried to approach this issue in the spirit of simply providing information in a community resource thread but obviously some have to smack it up. From those actually involved on the other side it is at least understandable, from someone with no discernible interest in the matter it is pathetic. (I haven't seen many RONA up here lately.)
I now give my word that I will say no more on this so others can hoot and bray to their heart's content, I am done.
Cosmo
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Awalance
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Posted - 2005.08.12 16:55:00 -
[383]
joshua again you forgot to mension RO alliance in Geminate.Crule comfirm you we are here Smash also .is there a problem or somthing ??If yo have somthing personal against us plese keep your sentiment in game but show the map how he realy is.
thx ------------------------
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Roger Dodger
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Posted - 2005.08.12 18:23:00 -
[384]
Just curious but why do you have BoB vs. FA on the warzone list twice as 6 and 10? Bit redundant IMO.
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FalloutBoy
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Posted - 2005.08.12 19:46:00 -
[385]
Don't think the stain vs fa thing is really required anymore. We will still shoot them if we see them, but the empire war is over. I honestly haven't seen one in our space for weeks and we don't bother going to fountain since bob has it taken care of.
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Zandramus
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Posted - 2005.08.12 19:55:00 -
[386]
Originally by: Awalance joshua again you forgot to mension RO alliance in Geminate.Crule comfirm you we are here Smash also .is there a problem or somthing ??If yo have somthing personal against us plese keep your sentiment in game but show the map how he realy is.
thx
Awalance...
I as well as you have been totally dissapointed with the map updates for our area. Here is what I asked for yesterday for Geminate
Quote:
Geminate Region
Geminate Region is owned by Cruel Intentions and the RO alliance these 2 alliances are working together and there is no fighting in Geminate
I am just totally baffled and am confused as to whether english is Joshua's native language or not becuse he clearly over the last several weeks has missed the point of the updates for the Geminate and Vale regions.
Hopefully we cane bear with it long enough for him to get it right, We know you are there with us and hopefully everyone else does as well even if its not on the Map yet.
Zandramus
Passes Now Available for 0.0 access
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General Killah
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Posted - 2005.08.12 20:17:00 -
[387]
Quote:
Geminate Region
Geminate Region is owned by Cruel Intentions and the RO alliance these 2 alliances are working together and there is no fighting in Geminate
Hardly no fighting. SMASH still go raid CRUEL/RO weekly if not daily. ---------------------------------
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Zandramus
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Posted - 2005.08.12 21:58:00 -
[388]
Edited by: Zandramus on 12/08/2005 21:59:38
Originally by: General Killah
Quote:
Geminate Region
Geminate Region is owned by Cruel Intentions and the RO alliance these 2 alliances are working together and there is no fighting in Geminate
Hardly no fighting. SMASH still go raid CRUEL/RO weekly if not daily.
Please... we have to come to JZV to get a fight with you before you hide in your bubble.
I was thinking of selling SMASH hunting passes but SMASH seems to be having problems respawning atm so I decided to wait so as not to kill the spawn off completely. Zandramus
Passes Now Available for 0.0 access
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Cribb
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Posted - 2005.08.12 22:46:00 -
[389]
There are 2 conflict between Foundation and veritas Imortalis numberd 2 and 5 think this is the 1 and the same conflict.
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Aeon Yakati
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Posted - 2005.08.12 22:48:00 -
[390]
Originally by: Raeff if any 1 alliance controls GW more than the others its [5] .. -V- is ONLY still in GW because of them , and i'd like to see you even try to deny that
we are bored with having to deal with -V- calling in 5 to help them EVERY time we match their fleets, so we changed tactics .. we still occasionally put up a decent fleet, but mainly its small attack groups
GW is still very much contested
Raeff
Or, you smoking pot? First of all, I've never seen you before in GW. Doubt anyone has. Secondly, are you smoking pot? And lastly, get off the pot!
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Hawkings SJ
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Posted - 2005.08.12 23:00:00 -
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Your ignorance is exemplified in your post in a number of respects.
1) The word 'many' hardly describes the ranks of JF and the vassals of JF that have heeded the call of their master to war as a mangy cur heeds its drunken master.
2) The fighting is limited to small skirmishes in the North, even if over a large area. The total fighting is minor compared to alliance vs alliance conflicts.
3) I repudiate the claims of the Southern Axis over their various territories. Also the Eastern, Western and Northern territories. Please place the map markers accordingly ("Contested" Hawkings SJ vs [Alliance] will do).
4) Pirates shoot anyone. They also generally do not hold territory, and favor small skirmishes over the fleet sized engagements necessary to take regions (usually). The difference is you don't shoot anyone. However, the marker in the Pure Blind area already serves as a generic warning of "Danger". A marker for "Danger (if you happen to be in a Northern Alliance)" seems redundent.
5) Yes, you are roleplayers and proud of it. Moreover you are also not dangerous to 95% of EVE, since you have not found a reason to fight with them. Hence you are often of no threat whatsoever to someone in 0.0, compared to the average pirate (They like the term PVP-enabled) who is. And it isn't all about endearing yourself to the mapmaker.
Whatever the case, I leave it to him and will not cavil at his decision. (Though I anticipate groans and moans from other quarters if the mapmaker does not awards you a marker.)
I've tried to approach this issue in the spirit of simply providing another viewpoint (and poke fun) in a community resource thread but obviously some have to smack it up. From those with no discernible interest at least it is understandable since thats how things are done here, but from those actually involved on the other side of the matter it is just pathetic.
I now give my word that I will say no more on this since others can hoot and bray much louder then I, I am done.
Hawkmo
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FalloutBoy
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Posted - 2005.08.12 23:23:00 -
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General Killah
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Posted - 2005.08.13 04:43:00 -
[393]
Originally by: Zandramus Edited by: Zandramus on 12/08/2005 21:59:38
Originally by: General Killah
Quote:
Geminate Region
Geminate Region is owned by Cruel Intentions and the RO alliance these 2 alliances are working together and there is no fighting in Geminate
Hardly no fighting. SMASH still go raid CRUEL/RO weekly if not daily.
Please... we have to come to JZV to get a fight with you before you hide in your bubble.
I was thinking of selling SMASH hunting passes but SMASH seems to be having problems respawning atm so I decided to wait so as not to kill the spawn off completely.
Please, you roll into JZV with 10-15 people, we have like 20 XAN guys who dock/log and we are left with 2 battleships on.
The timezones are different, obviously you don't remember that little mining op we hit the other day ---------------------------------
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unforg1ven
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Posted - 2005.08.13 06:12:00 -
[394]
Geminate Status : You will notice the presence of CRUEL INTENTIONS/ RO Alliance , and lets not forget SMASH that make raids once per day at night time in Europe and gank what they find. But Geminate is under RO/CRUEL control.
Vale Of Silent Status : Contested Between SMASH and CRUEL/RO. But you can set Vale as a warzone.
Thank you. I hope SMASH agrees.
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Uggs386
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Posted - 2005.08.13 07:30:00 -
[395]
Add f-e and nbsi alliances to the allied list with g/imp/pa/iron
DJ shows his true feelings. James Kavourias > just need a **** break soon:P dj lightning > let me know when and i will hold |

General Killah
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Posted - 2005.08.13 07:57:00 -
[396]
Originally by: unforg1ven Geminate Status : You will notice the presence of CRUEL INTENTIONS/ RO Alliance , and lets not forget SMASH that make raids once per day at night time in Europe and gank what they find. But Geminate is under RO/CRUEL control.
Vale Of Silent Status : Contested Between SMASH and CRUEL/RO. But you can set Vale as a warzone.
Thank you. I hope SMASH agrees.
Agreed.
To be honest RO got the **** end of that deal, ZLZ has NOTHING worth anything over there. ---------------------------------
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Cartiff
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Posted - 2005.08.13 09:21:00 -
[397]
Jericho Fraction
NBSI is not actively hunting you, if we see you in tenal, we'll try and shoot you, but otherwise....
I don't think our 2 organisations have any real bone of contention, only that you attack PA and we are allied with PA. We will ofc help our PA friends if they ask, but so far they have not asked and so i do not think we are really involved atm.
Please correct me if i am wrong.
Cartiff, CEO Euphoria Released NBSI 4TW
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Atandros
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Posted - 2005.08.13 11:01:00 -
[398]
Edited by: Atandros on 13/08/2005 11:02:52
Originally by: Hawkings SJ
...Or my suggestion of "Roleplayer Infestation", which more accuratly describes the level of threat this presents.
lol #1
lol #2
You can call us a number of things, but calling us ineffective or bad PVPers (not to mention calling us either of those because we're roleplayers) is pathetically weak in the face of facts, especially so considering you've had zero contact with us in this northern campaign.
Originally by: Cartiff Jericho Fraction
NBSI is not actively hunting you, if we see you in tenal, we'll try and shoot you, but otherwise....
I don't think our 2 organisations have any real bone of contention, only that you attack PA and we are allied with PA. We will ofc help our PA friends if they ask, but so far they have not asked and so i do not think we are really involved atm.
Please correct me if i am wrong.
Yep that's pretty much right Cartiff. 
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Khaerie
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Posted - 2005.08.13 17:50:00 -
[399]
Wow! What's happened here? This used to be a thread about how the map needs to look. When did it start heading in to flames and slams? I thought it wasn't allowed.
  
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Heels
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Posted - 2005.08.13 22:30:00 -
[400]
Originally by: Avatar Ashlee Outerring and Syndicate should be shown as Trundragun/teddybear/TRS controlled
Move imp to HED-GP or Agil
id have to agree with that. TRS have pretty much total control of syndicate other then the system pf-346.
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Heels
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Posted - 2005.08.13 22:35:00 -
[401]
tbh i dont know why you have imperium as controlling syndicate, they barely have any control over outer ring ever since TRS moved in. If anything Syndicate should be marked as TRS controlled mabeh tundragons and theddy bears.
another change you are missing completely is that norad is also in outer ring and napped with imperium. they moved in there back and reformed their alliance.
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Odet
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Posted - 2005.08.13 22:50:00 -
[402]
Originally by: sapage1
Originally by: Abominable Edited by: Abominable on 11/08/2005 14:11:46 Can any imps confirm that they actually claim syndicate? I thought they only claimed Outer Ring.
confirmed
AHAHAHAHAHHAHAA omfg thats the most ridiculous claim ive ever heard, u guys barely have a grip on outer ring let alone syndicate.
No offence but ever since we moved in you guys had to call back all your fleets from abroad, and still u couldnt fight back, so now u just log off when we try and confront you.
I see more norad in outer ring then imperium.
flying a shuttle with instajumps through syndicate isnt enough to be able to claim it buddy.
=This podding has been brought to you by Odet, the only way to fry.= |
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Abdalion

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Posted - 2005.08.14 02:52:00 -
[403]
Read the second post in this thread. For those of you who missed it, here is a link:
Rules Linkage
I am going to start cleaning this thread up soon(tm), and some of you aren't going to be happy.
So, I suggest that those of you who have posted in violation of the rules in this thread, that you take care of your own posts.
Thanks! --
I ♥ You.... ® Shepherd of the [23] |
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Messerschmitt facility
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Posted - 2005.08.14 07:33:00 -
[404]
Don't have time to read all but... where is FA? lol?  _________________________________
A conclusion is the place where you got tired of thinking...
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viper adt
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Posted - 2005.08.14 11:29:00 -
[405]
Originally by: Odet
Originally by: sapage1
Originally by: Abominable Edited by: Abominable on 11/08/2005 14:11:46 Can any imps confirm that they actually claim syndicate? I thought they only claimed Outer Ring.
confirmed
AHAHAHAHAHHAHAA omfg thats the most ridiculous claim ive ever heard, u guys barely have a grip on outer ring let alone syndicate.
No offence but ever since we moved in you guys had to call back all your fleets from abroad, and still u couldnt fight back, so now u just log off when we try and confront you.
I see more norad in outer ring then imperium.
flying a shuttle with instajumps through syndicate isnt enough to be able to claim it buddy.
Thats how every time we engage in fleet battles you loose way more than us? Go away.
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Jasmine Constantine
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Posted - 2005.08.14 16:23:00 -
[406]
Originally by: Abdalion Read the second post in this thread. For those of you who missed it, here is a link:
Rules Linkage
I am going to start cleaning this thread up soon(tm), and some of you aren't going to be happy.
So, I suggest that those of you who have posted in violation of the rules in this thread, that you take care of your own posts.
Thanks!
good call tbh, needs doing.
"Every act of creation is first an act of destruction."
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Angelhunter
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Posted - 2005.08.14 19:37:00 -
[407]
Can we please have an "at war" icon placed in the Fountain Region for Vertigo Coalition Vs. Bob/Xelas. Any questions about our forces in the area and intentions and such can be directed to me in-game. Thanks.
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DB Preacher
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Posted - 2005.08.14 19:46:00 -
[408]
Originally by: Angelhunter Can we please have an "at war" icon placed in the Fountain Region for Vertigo Coalition Vs. Bob/Xelas. Any questions about our forces in the area and intentions and such can be directed to me in-game. Thanks.
A~
Just swop the current Fountain vs BoB for this one.
dbp
Current RKK Ranking: (CAL4) Soldier
Drop by and say hi in Reikoku Forums.
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Zhuge Liang

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Posted - 2005.08.14 19:59:00 -
[409]
This thread needs a haircut. Post when ready.
ZhuuÀgheyÀleeÀang | History |
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Joshua Foiritain
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Posted - 2005.08.14 21:20:00 -
[410]
Originally by: Zandramus Awalance...
I as well as you have been totally dissapointed with the map updates for our area. Here is what I asked for yesterday for Geminate
Yesterday being the operative word...
@Zhuge, everything up untill this post can be deleted. Its all been marked down for the next update. ------------------
[Coreli Corporation Mainframe] |
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Masu'di
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Posted - 2005.08.15 01:16:00 -
[411]
i slip through the Great Wildlands quite regularly, and i would have to say that unless things have dramatically changed in the last week, i've recently encountered as many Foundation in the core systems as I did anyone else, so quite suprised at the map changes.
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Cloned Mark
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Posted - 2005.08.15 02:39:00 -
[412]
Originally by: Masu'di i slip through the Great Wildlands quite regularly, and i would have to say that unless things have dramatically changed in the last week, i've recently encountered as many Foundation in the core systems as I did anyone else, so quite suprised at the map changes.
Things have actually dramatically changed i.e. Millennium leaving Foundation. -----------------------------
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Arud
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Posted - 2005.08.15 04:10:00 -
[413]
you missed this one in the listing http://www.eve-files.com/media/corp/CRII/08.08.107.jpg
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Tai'Kimoto
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Posted - 2005.08.15 17:39:00 -
[414]
#4 - FA retracted war against Stain
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Nifel
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Posted - 2005.08.15 20:40:00 -
[415]
Could Zhuge link DP Mephisto's map to this: http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=162964&page=1#4
?
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Eteoneus
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Posted - 2005.08.16 14:57:00 -
[416]
Originally by: Masu'di i slip through the Great Wildlands quite regularly, and i would have to say that unless things have dramatically changed in the last week, i've recently encountered as many Foundation in the core systems as I did anyone else, so quite suprised at the map changes.
Then you where lucky! :)
-V- kept the sovereignty over the last weeks and most of the time we got moving out MLM members here. No other big count of F so far.
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danneh
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Posted - 2005.08.16 17:51:00 -
[417]
Fantastic Work.
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Veren Sark
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Posted - 2005.08.16 18:25:00 -
[418]
ad what about Norad, we now share Outer ring with Imperium.
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Joshua Foiritain
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Posted - 2005.08.16 20:30:00 -
[419]
Originally by: Veren Sark ad what about Norad, we now share Outer ring with Imperium.
V
Reading 4tw!
Originally by: Joshua Foiritain Pending Changes: Deciding whether or not to give JF/O-SYN their own warzone marker in Pureblind and marking Norad in outer ring (Territorial claim verification pending).
Norad wants 4 constellations, Imp only wants norad marked on 1, so now we get to see if they can agree on what Norad is allowed to claim or if norad chooses to claim them trough violence. ------------------
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Roger Dodger
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Posted - 2005.08.16 22:32:00 -
[420]
Would it be possible to have a changelog to see the differences between versions? Sometimes changes can be so small they're not too noticeable on the map (i.e. changing Stain's claim on Catch.)
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Morrganna
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Posted - 2005.08.16 23:23:00 -
[421]
Edited by: Morrganna on 16/08/2005 23:23:24
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Imperium Command
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Posted - 2005.08.17 00:28:00 -
[422]
Please add norad to Outer-Ring, doesnt really matter where.
Additionally, fountain is currently under heavy attack from G and Imperium with surmounting BoB/XELAS losses.
Please add fountain as contested space between BoB + ABCO (Anti BoB Coalition)
ABCO Announcement soonÖ
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Reiisha
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Posted - 2005.08.17 01:36:00 -
[423]
Originally by: Imperium Command Please add norad to Outer-Ring, doesnt really matter where.
Additionally, fountain is currently under heavy attack from G and Imperium with surmounting BoB/XELAS losses.
Please add fountain as contested space between BoB + ABCO (Anti BoB Coalition)
ABCO Announcement soonÖ
I'd protest to this - currently, Imperium space is under heavy attack from BOB forces with surmounting IMP/G losses.
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Imperium Command
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Posted - 2005.08.17 01:42:00 -
[424]
Originally by: Reiisha
Originally by: Imperium Command Please add norad to Outer-Ring, doesnt really matter where.
Additionally, fountain is currently under heavy attack from G and Imperium with surmounting BoB/XELAS losses.
Please add fountain as contested space between BoB + ABCO (Anti BoB Coalition)
ABCO Announcement soonÖ
I'd protest to this - currently, Imperium space is under heavy attack from BOB forces with surmounting IMP/G losses.
With your losses being double ours i really dont see your point.
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Kyle Caldrel
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Posted - 2005.08.17 02:16:00 -
[425]
Originally by: Imperium Command Please add norad to Outer-Ring, doesnt really matter where.
Additionally, fountain is currently under heavy attack from G and Imperium with surmounting BoB/XELAS losses.
Please add fountain as contested space between BoB + ABCO (Anti BoB Coalition)
ABCO Announcement soonÖ
Was that like your heavy assault on curse, where you pushed deep into HED-GP?
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Galavet
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Posted - 2005.08.17 02:28:00 -
[426]
Originally by: Imperium Command Please add norad to Outer-Ring, doesnt really matter where.
Additionally, fountain is currently under heavy attack from G and Imperium with surmounting BoB/XELAS losses.
Please add fountain as contested space between BoB + ABCO (Anti BoB Coalition)
ABCO Announcement soonÖ
Gotta form a Coalition to take on three little corps... I love it 
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Richard Dawkins
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Posted - 2005.08.17 04:45:00 -
[427]
Originally by: Galavet Gotta form a Coalition to take on three little corps... I love it 
According to the ingame listing, Imperium has about 1,000 members (quite a few of whom are not combatants), and BoB has 800 members (where 95% if not all are combat pilots.)
3 little corps? Spin 4tw.
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FalloutBoy
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Posted - 2005.08.17 04:48:00 -
[428]
Originally by: Galavet
Originally by: Imperium Command Please add norad to Outer-Ring, doesnt really matter where.
Additionally, fountain is currently under heavy attack from G and Imperium with surmounting BoB/XELAS losses.
Please add fountain as contested space between BoB + ABCO (Anti BoB Coalition)
ABCO Announcement soonÖ
Gotta form a Coalition to take on three little corps... I love it 
well atleast they aren't laying down and letting you guys take them down one by one...
they are letting you break there morale all at once :P
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thoth foc
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Posted - 2005.08.17 07:51:00 -
[429]
with fighting from 4c- down to yz and both sides "contesting" the other area.. maybe 1 of those next mixed bends across the border would keep everyone happy :)
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dimensionZ
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Posted - 2005.08.17 08:54:00 -
[430]
Originally by: Richard Dawkins
Originally by: Galavet Gotta form a Coalition to take on three little corps... I love it 
According to the ingame listing, Imperium has about 1,000 members (quite a few of whom are not combatants), and BoB has 800 members (where 95% if not all are combat pilots.)
3 little corps? Spin 4tw.
You sir, have no clue.
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Edoo
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Posted - 2005.08.17 10:16:00 -
[431]
Adding JF/OS to Pureblind would be a joke. There are far more powerful entities which would make it a warzone such as R.I.S.K. I just get frustrated when JF/OS feel they deserve a marker there, when R.I.S.K have fought much more and more honourably, and have never requested to be marked in.
Pirate infestation is the best label for the region IMO, but i will trust your judgement Josh. -------------------------------------------------------- Edoo - TPDT Recruitment Manager, PA Diplomat
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The Cosmopolite
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Posted - 2005.08.17 10:55:00 -
[432]
Edited by: The Cosmopolite on 17/08/2005 10:55:07
Originally by: Edoo Adding JF/OS to Pureblind would be a joke. There are far more powerful entities which would make it a warzone such as R.I.S.K. I just get frustrated when JF/OS feel they deserve a marker there, when R.I.S.K have fought much more and more honourably, and have never requested to be marked in.
Pirate infestation is the best labelfor the region IMO, but i will trust your judgement Josh.
First bolding: that's R.I.S.K's affair - it's got nothing to do with us.
Second bolding: we are not pirates.
I'll just ignore the 'more honourably' aside you made in this thread and invite you to explain why we are dishonourable in the IC summit where such matters belong.
The reason for a separate number for JF/O-SYN is to differentiate us from the pirates and provide more information to the people that look at the map.
What is the map? Is it for information or is it for measuring e-weens by virtue of getting a marker?
My argument for a marker is that we are there, our activities are markedly different from those of the pirates and we will attack and destroy when possible many of those who use that area.
It's a factual, information-based argument.
You seem to want to make the map into a 'big boys only' resource.
I wonder if that's really what it's for?
Cosmo
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MAXSuicide
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Posted - 2005.08.17 12:01:00 -
[433]
how does 'terrorist' sound isntead of Pirate then?
or 'guerilla campaigns'
My vids and random stuff
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TWD
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Posted - 2005.08.17 12:05:00 -
[434]
Edited by: TWD on 17/08/2005 12:05:22
Originally by: Imperium Command Please add norad to Outer-Ring, doesnt really matter where.
Additionally, fountain is currently under heavy attack from G and Imperium with surmounting BoB/XELAS losses.
Please add fountain as contested space between BoB + ABCO (Anti BoB Coalition)
ABCO Announcement soonÖ
A lil skull is enough on Fountain, "surmounting BoB losses" ? check Linkage and you'll see we have a neat 4:1 killratio vs IMP.
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Corak
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Posted - 2005.08.17 12:15:00 -
[435]
curse is not war zone ??????????
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pshepherd
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Posted - 2005.08.17 12:15:00 -
[436]
Originally by: Tai'Kimoto #4 - FA retracted war against Stain
they retracted the official war, but we're still killing them (when someone can be bothered to find em)
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The Cosmopolite
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Posted - 2005.08.17 12:42:00 -
[437]
Originally by: MAXSuicide how does 'terrorist' sound isntead of Pirate then?
or 'guerilla campaigns'
The latter sounds just fine as that's what we are doing for the moment. I personally wouldn't have much of a problem with 'terrorist' either. Possibly some in my corp would and possibly it's too laden a term for use on the map unless it refers to a self-admitted terrorist organisation. Up to you know who ultimately.. :wink:
Cosmo
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Dianabolic
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Posted - 2005.08.17 15:06:00 -
[438]
Originally by: Richard Dawkins (where 95% if not all are combat pilots.)
Yeah, cuz, like, 95% of our iga numbers are individual active pilots. We have no industry, we live off loot.
Actually...
Needless to say that Fountain is nowhere near as contested as Outer Ring at this time, though sure, u can mark it contested, Josh, it makes no odds either way.
(imo anyway)
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sapage1
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Posted - 2005.08.17 15:13:00 -
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Originally by: Dianabolic
Originally by: Richard Dawkins (where 95% if not all are combat pilots.)
Yeah, cuz, like, 95% of our iga numbers are individual active pilots. We have no industry, we live off loot.
Actually...
Needless to say that Fountain is nowhere near as contested as Outer Ring at this time, though sure, u can mark it contested, Josh, it makes no odds either way.
(imo anyway)
1- Dont think us so naive as to think bob lives off just loot. We know you dont.
2- Fountain has more hostiles in than Outer-Ring does, you have Vertago/G/IMP/FA+more in Fountain at the moment, In OR we have BoB... ___________________________________________________ Imperium vs 5ive
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Dianabolic
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Posted - 2005.08.17 15:16:00 -
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Originally by: sapage1 2- Fountain has more hostiles in than Outer-Ring does, you have Vertago/G/IMP/FA+more in Fountain at the moment, In OR we have BoB...
There are more groups, yes, but less hostiles.
Or have I missed a 70 man hostile blob in yz in the last 2 weeks?
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sapage1
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Posted - 2005.08.17 15:19:00 -
[441]
Originally by: Dianabolic
Originally by: sapage1 2- Fountain has more hostiles in than Outer-Ring does, you have Vertago/G/IMP/FA+more in Fountain at the moment, In OR we have BoB...
There are more groups, yes, but less hostiles.
Or have I missed a 70 man hostile blob in yz in the last 2 weeks?
Well VC have had fleets of over 30 roaming the area quite frequentl, g fleets also and imperium gank fleets... so please open your eyes. I will be sure to make a screenshot of one tonight. ___________________________________________________ Imperium vs 5ive
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Dianabolic
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Posted - 2005.08.17 15:21:00 -
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Originally by: sapage1 1- Dont think us so naive as to think bob lives off just loot. We know you dont.
But you're naive enough to think that 95% of our numbers are active!?
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Coug
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Posted - 2005.08.17 15:23:00 -
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VC will speak for ourselves thank you very much.
As such we are currently content with merely the warzone marker, as we have no desire to get into map quarrels about contested regions as it serves no purpose. BoB knows we are there, we know we are there, and that's all there is to it.
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Dianabolic
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Posted - 2005.08.17 15:27:00 -
[444]
Originally by: sapage1
Originally by: Dianabolic
Originally by: sapage1 2- Fountain has more hostiles in than Outer-Ring does, you have Vertago/G/IMP/FA+more in Fountain at the moment, In OR we have BoB...
There are more groups, yes, but less hostiles.
Or have I missed a 70 man hostile blob in yz in the last 2 weeks?
Well VC have had fleets of over 30 roaming the area quite frequentl, g fleets also and imperium gank fleets... so please open your eyes. I will be sure to make a screenshot of one tonight.
Sapage, I'm gonna step out of this thread now, when 30 > 70 then you can come back to me with your comment on "fountain is more hostile", ok?
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Blacklight
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Posted - 2005.08.17 15:47:00 -
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So Imperium are contesting Fountain with the intention of taking it then are they? The definition of contesting the space is surely saying this is ours now not yours, rather than just raiding it.
So is that what Imperium are saying or are you just attacking and therefore get a war marker?
Just for clarity it is our intention to have Outer Ring and completely remove Imperium, so yes we are contesting it and not just attacking it.
Eve Blacklight Style
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DB Preacher
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Posted - 2005.08.17 15:56:00 -
[446]
Edited by: DB Preacher on 17/08/2005 15:58:37
EDIT: goddamnit blacklight, you beat me to the exact same question. I'd been pondering how to phrase that without potential for enemy flaming for about 20 minutes ;)
dbp
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Imperium Command
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Posted - 2005.08.17 17:45:00 -
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Imperium intend to wipe bob from Fountain and what happens to the region after that will be what is decided amoung ABCO.
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nitr0s
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Posted - 2005.08.17 20:34:00 -
[448]
Originally by: Corak
curse is not war zone ??????????
Do you even know where Curse is?
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Hawkings SJ
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Posted - 2005.08.18 03:27:00 -
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I think that not only should we include JF/O-SYN, but every single other fight between people that we can doccument. We may need to use map markers 1 - 193,242 to cover the updates for this month.
But it will be very informative.
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Dracorimus
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Posted - 2005.08.18 08:02:00 -
[450]
Edited by: Dracorimus on 18/08/2005 08:04:05 Anti Bob Coalition eh...
Damn I love this game  -
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emptydude
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Posted - 2005.08.18 11:39:00 -
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Originally by: Blacklight
Just for clarity it is our intention to have Outer Ring and completely remove Imperium, so yes we are contesting it and not just attacking it.
your POS in the area should be enough to count for a contested marker. the fact that it is in IMPS space and they haven't/can't remove it is imo contested space. maybe not the whole of outer ring, just the few systems around the POS, but it should be more than just a warzone imho -------- wannabe gangsta |

sapage1
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Posted - 2005.08.18 12:06:00 -
[452]
Originally by: emptydude
Originally by: Blacklight
Just for clarity it is our intention to have Outer Ring and completely remove Imperium, so yes we are contesting it and not just attacking it.
your POS in the area should be enough to count for a contested marker. the fact that it is in IMPS space and they haven't/can't remove it is imo contested space. maybe not the whole of outer ring, just the few systems around the POS, but it should be more than just a warzone imho
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emptydude
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Posted - 2005.08.18 12:34:00 -
[453]
Originally by: sapage1
Originally by: emptydude
Originally by: Blacklight
Just for clarity it is our intention to have Outer Ring and completely remove Imperium, so yes we are contesting it and not just attacking it.
your POS in the area should be enough to count for a contested marker. the fact that it is in IMPS space and they haven't/can't remove it is imo contested space. maybe not the whole of outer ring, just the few systems around the POS, but it should be more than just a warzone imho
That is why Joshua does the map and not you. Bias is a bad bad thing.
if i was to be biased against anyone, it would be BoB, considering i lost many ships to them when i was in PA. -------- wannabe gangsta |

DB Preacher
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Posted - 2005.08.18 12:46:00 -
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It's pretty simple...
Imp want to contest Fountain, we want to contest Cloud Ring.
So just mark them both as contested for the next 6-12 months and let's see who is standing at the end of it.
dbp
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Funshine Bear
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Posted - 2005.08.18 16:01:00 -
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Edited by: Funshine Bear on 18/08/2005 16:01:46 i claim all of Empire space.
put Funshine Bear on the Map!
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Darko1107
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Posted - 2005.08.18 17:32:00 -
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There is no Pirate "Infestation" in PB, maybe the odd Doom. or RUS-SAGA, apart from that its bloody boring. Also, there is no "warzone" approach to JF/O-SYN, they mostly just live in x-70, sniping gates or ganking the occasional bs or whatever. We blob them then bugger off, or sumtimes kill a hac or a thorax. Not really a war, thought we sometimes have some very small battles.
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Demarcus
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Posted - 2005.08.18 19:56:00 -
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Originally by: Edoo Adding JF/OS to Pureblind would be a joke. There are far more powerful entities which would make it a warzone such as R.I.S.K. I just get frustrated when JF/OS feel they deserve a marker there, when R.I.S.K have fought much more and more honourably, and have never requested to be marked in.
Pirate infestation is the best label for the region IMO, but i will trust your judgement Josh.
If it is claimed by anyone it should be IRON or G since we by far have the largest presences in the region. If not one of those 2 leave it as an infestation. ------------------------------------- You are all worthless, and weak.
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Reiisha
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Posted - 2005.08.19 03:33:00 -
[458]
Originally by: DB Preacher It's pretty simple...
Imp want to contest Fountain, we want to contest Cloud Ring.
So just mark them both as contested for the next 6-12 months and let's see who is standing at the end of it.
dbp
IMP will prolly reply with "BoB are no threat to Cloud Ring, please remove the contested marker".
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Righteous Fury
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Posted - 2005.08.19 04:16:00 -
[459]
Originally by: sapage1 That is why Joshua does the map and not you. Bias is a bad bad thing.
Now where have I heard that before...hmm
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Jasmine Constantine
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Posted - 2005.08.19 19:25:00 -
[460]
Originally by: Demarcus
Originally by: Edoo Adding JF/OS to Pureblind would be a joke. There are far more powerful entities which would make it a warzone such as R.I.S.K. I just get frustrated when JF/OS feel they deserve a marker there, when R.I.S.K have fought much more and more honourably, and have never requested to be marked in.
Pirate infestation is the best label for the region IMO, but i will trust your judgement Josh.
If it is claimed by anyone it should be IRON or G since we by far have the largest presences in the region. If not one of those 2 leave it as an infestation.
Its a fairly logical argument against though isn't it? There is no pirate infestation in Pureblind currently and JF/OS are shooting PA and the NVP corps. If your neutral we don't shoot you, if you are PA+buddies we do. Thats the definition of a war albeit a guerilla one. Also no side in the dispute "claims" Pureblind its just being used as a warzone.
The logical resolution is to put a JF/OSYN vs PA(NVP) marker there to let travellers know what is going on. The map is surely a resource to inform people about whats happening in the regions rather than a propaganda tool I thought?
As for casualties being caused OSYN have a killboard that shows plenty, JF don't currently use one but be assured we're not exactly mucking around with feather dusters in the region 
Ultimately the best argument for putting a conflict like this on the map is so that some random traveller jumping into PB can look at the map and know what the fighting is about. "ah he thinks, thats a gang of JF/OSYN ships lurking in system but they are only after PA and friends ... good news for me they ain't pirates!" (and goes about his business.
And thats it really.
"Every act of creation is first an act of destruction."
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Yuki Li
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Posted - 2005.08.19 19:53:00 -
[461]
Quote: There is no Pirate "Infestation" in PB, maybe the odd Doom. or RUS-SAGA, apart from that its bloody boring. Also, there is no "warzone" approach to JF/O-SYN, they mostly just live in x-70, sniping gates or ganking the occasional bs or whatever. We blob them then bugger off, or sumtimes kill a hac or a thorax. Not really a war, thought we sometimes have some very small battles.
Not trying to be funny here, but we don't fly around in huge blobs.
I'm not sure that makes us as insignificant as you'd like to suggest.
We're not huge, but we're certainly fighting.
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Edoo
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Posted - 2005.08.19 19:54:00 -
[462]
Jasmine why does the map matter at all to you? -------------------------------------------------------- Edoo - TPDT Recruitment Manager, PA Diplomat
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Hawkings SJ
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Posted - 2005.08.19 20:14:00 -
[463]
The counter argument is pretty simple:
The map shows regional conflicts between alliances, for the most part, or conflicts that could be expected to result in an area changing ownership.
JF/O-SYN I believe may not recognize the soverienty of the northern alliances, but have no intention of taking the area for thier own. Also, you have said you dont shoot people other then those in the aformentioned alliances.
Why would the general public need to know that someone who isnt' going to shoot them, isn't contesting the control of that region and isn't in control themselves is around?
I mean really, what use is a "No Danger" sign?
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Jasmine Constantine
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Posted - 2005.08.19 20:15:00 -
[464]
Originally by: Edoo Jasmine why does the map matter at all to you?
I'm thinking of innocent freighter captains that might get scared at all the skirmish warfare going on Edo, but seriously why not? If people are making a conflict map it might as well show the conflicts that are going on? Why shouldn't it make a note that JF/OSYN are taking on the might of the north single handed ?
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Edoo
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Posted - 2005.08.19 20:25:00 -
[465]
Originally by: Jasmine Constantine
Originally by: Edoo Jasmine why does the map matter at all to you?
I'm thinking of innocent freighter captains that might get scared at all the skirmish warfare going on Edo, but seriously why not? If people are making a conflict map it might as well show the conflicts that are going on? Why shouldn't it make a note that JF/OSYN are taking on the might of the north single handed ?
does that mean taking on the odd traveller single handed? Anyway lets not start *****ing on the map thread lol. -------------------------------------------------------- Edoo - TPDT Recruitment Manager, PA Diplomat
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Jasmine Constantine
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Posted - 2005.08.19 20:56:00 -
[466]
Originally by: Edoo
Originally by: Jasmine Constantine
Originally by: Edoo Jasmine why does the map matter at all to you?
I'm thinking of innocent freighter captains that might get scared at all the skirmish warfare going on Edo, but seriously why not? If people are making a conflict map it might as well show the conflicts that are going on? Why shouldn't it make a note that JF/OSYN are taking on the might of the north single handed ?
does that mean taking on the odd traveller single handed? Anyway lets not start *****ing on the map thread lol.
Agreed its stupid for us to argue on this thread, after all its a game mate, we're clearly in the area and shooting you. I can't think of one reason why you wouldn't want the conflict zone marked on the map. Makes us both famous don't it? 
"Every act of creation is first an act of destruction."
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Darko1107
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Posted - 2005.08.19 23:09:00 -
[467]
Originally by: Yuki Li
Quote: There is no Pirate "Infestation" in PB, maybe the odd Doom. or RUS-SAGA, apart from that its bloody boring. Also, there is no "warzone" approach to JF/O-SYN, they mostly just live in x-70, sniping gates or ganking the occasional bs or whatever. We blob them then bugger off, or sumtimes kill a hac or a thorax. Not really a war, thought we sometimes have some very small battles.
Not trying to be funny here, but we don't fly around in huge blobs.
I'm not sure that makes us as insignificant as you'd like to suggest.
We're not huge, but we're certainly fighting.
Not saying your insignificant. I simply dont view it as a war at all. We see each other, we shoot each other. Other than thats theres not really much to it.
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Recluse Viramor
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Posted - 2005.08.20 05:16:00 -
[468]
Originally by: Jasmine Constantine
Originally by: Edoo Jasmine why does the map matter at all to you?
I'm thinking of innocent freighter captains that might get scared at all the skirmish warfare going on Edo, but seriously why not? If people are making a conflict map it might as well show the conflicts that are going on? Why shouldn't it make a note that JF/OSYN are taking on the might of the north single handed ?
Anyone thats going to be flying a freighter is not going to be that naive to fly into 0.0 without escrots and without knowledge of whats currently going on in the region.
The maps purpose is to show who claims what and the addition of the little pirate infestation symbols helps people see where areas are a bit unstable, you in pure blind is no different from any number of other pirate corps doing their work in other regions in 0.0. Why am I not suprised that JF is once again trying to get all the attention it can get.
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ParMizaN
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Posted - 2005.08.20 09:29:00 -
[469]
actually from my POV, if they dont shoot neutrals ten a pirate symbol could be misleading...
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Tatsue Nuko
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Posted - 2005.08.20 13:17:00 -
[470]
Originally by: ParMizaN actually from my POV, if they dont shoot neutrals ten a pirate symbol could be misleading...
Indeed. If you have a pirate symbol, people will expect pirates. And then they see a group of JF/OSYN ships, and they'll of course think "eeek piwates!" and hide needlessly instead of "hellous!" and fly on.
As such, the marker has a value as an indication of the situation in each are. Hawkings may feel (conveniently) that the map is only about showing "who claims what". But then Hawkings is free to make his own map, and us others are free to tell the current mapmaker that we feel the map could serve more than that purpose - such as letting people know that they should expect seeing combat in are X but that corps A and B in that combat scenario are not pirates and will not shoot neutrals.
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Jasmine Constantine
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Posted - 2005.08.20 14:54:00 -
[471]
Originally by: ParMizaN actually from my POV, if they dont shoot neutrals ten a pirate symbol could be misleading...
Yeah kinda the point really. I guess what the map needs is an insurgency or guerilla action marker maybe? Something for all the non territorialist alliance people fighting against oppression and tyranny? I think its a very important point people need to realise is that not all non alliance fighters are pirates.
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Hawkings SJ
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Posted - 2005.08.20 15:32:00 -
[472]
Right, because when I point out that marking every small conflict on the map might create needless clutter on a work that mostly shows large scall conflicts (historically, not conviently) I should make my own map, and your ideas should be implemented. How about you make your own map and my ideas get implemented? Especially since mine would require no change at all.
The map could show every fight, and all the stances the fighters hold in relation to one another. But really, think of how many fights must be going on in EVE right now. Showing smaller battles opens the door to a wave of people wanting to get on the map for recognition/political/bragging/wang-waving reasons, more then the ability to actually change the face of the map significantly.
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Tatsue Nuko
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Posted - 2005.08.20 16:18:00 -
[473]
The point, Hawkings, is that you're the one that wanted us covered by the "pirate infestation" marker. We said "we're not piwates", so that's not right. So we gave our thoughts to Josh on that. I think he now has a rather extensive array of opinions from both sides of the fences now, wherefore I think we can let it rest in peace and I'll ***** at him in pwiwateh later if he's naughty.  __________________
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Hawkings SJ
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Posted - 2005.08.20 17:18:00 -
[474]
Actually my suggestion was for "Roleplayer Infestation".
But Pirate Infestation, a general warning of possible danger, would service just as well.
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Jasmine Constantine
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Posted - 2005.08.20 17:27:00 -
[475]
Originally by: Hawkings SJ Actually my suggestion was for "Roleplayer Infestation".
But Pirate Infestation, a general warning of possible danger, would service just as well.
Aside from the facts we're not pirates and don't shoot neutrals ... sheesh man how many times do people need to point that out to you Now why don't we all shush about it and let the map maker decide.
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Hawkings SJ
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Posted - 2005.08.20 18:27:00 -
[476]
And Roleplayer Infestation would not communicate that clearly enough?
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j0sephine
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Posted - 2005.08.20 19:04:00 -
[477]
"And Roleplayer Infestation would not communicate that clearly enough?"
It's kinda very case-specific (although funny) ... think the map could do with simple "high risk zone" marker that'd replace the 'pirate infestation' thing... one man's pirate is another man's freedom fighter and whatnot >>;
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Blacklight
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Posted - 2005.08.20 19:16:00 -
[478]
Originally by: j0sephine "And Roleplayer Infestation would not communicate that clearly enough?"
It's kinda very case-specific (although funny) ... think the map could do with simple "high risk zone" marker that'd replace the 'pirate infestation' thing... one man's pirate is another man's freedom fighter and whatnot >>;
That is a very sensible suggestion, the more generic the better really as one wrong word can cause a thousand to be written in debate on the whorums.
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ParMizaN
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Posted - 2005.08.20 20:06:00 -
[479]
Originally by: j0sephine "And Roleplayer Infestation would not communicate that clearly enough?"
It's kinda very case-specific (although funny) ... think the map could do with simple "high risk zone" marker that'd replace the 'pirate infestation' thing... one man's pirate is another man's freedom fighter and whatnot >>;
sounds like a very good idea
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Angry Dan
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Posted - 2005.08.20 21:17:00 -
[480]
Originally by: Hawkings SJ Actually my suggestion was for "Roleplayer Infestation".
I second that, theres a nasty one in R3-K7K :) Oh wait, thats us :) ++++++++++++++++++++ Founder member of the Huzzah Federation. Remember, the grass is greener on our side of the fence Widowmakers director Fear my kneepads of allure!
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Tatsue Nuko
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Posted - 2005.08.20 23:34:00 -
[481]
Edited by: Tatsue Nuko on 20/08/2005 23:35:41
Originally by: Hawkings SJ And Roleplayer Infestation would not communicate that clearly enough?
Roleplayers can be pirates too (and there are in fact several roleplaying pirate outfits out there). I'm with j0 on the "high risk zone" idea.
EDIT: And that evades the somewhat condescending tone of "roleplayer infestation", as if roleplayers are by nature bad players. The Jokers were roleplayers, and they definintely weren't bad... /me swoons for Jexter a bit
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Hawkings SJ
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Posted - 2005.08.21 05:41:00 -
[482]
Jokesr ! Lkjdlkfj!
Roelaydfypeor s dshould aldskfjlkj aldsjfl aaa!~!!
somewthingb to do with rleapuayr res
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Tatsue Nuko
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Posted - 2005.08.21 08:48:00 -
[483]
Ehm, k.
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Kane Jacobs
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Posted - 2005.08.21 15:51:00 -
[484]
Originally by: Hawkings SJ Jokesr ! Lkjdlkfj!
Roelaydfypeor s dshould aldskfjlkj aldsjfl aaa!~!!
somewthingb to do with rleapuayr res
Blarekdj!
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Hawkings SJ
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Posted - 2005.08.21 16:37:00 -
[485]
Oh so this is what i vaguely remember trying to type last night.
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Joshua Foiritain
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Posted - 2005.08.21 20:22:00 -
[486]
Originally by: Hawkings SJ Jokesr ! Lkjdlkfj!
Roelaydfypeor s dshould aldskfjlkj aldsjfl aaa!~!!
somewthingb to do with rleapuayr res
Blarekdj!
Resectapa. 
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General Killah
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Posted - 2005.08.21 20:41:00 -
[487]
Please change the map to show Vale contested only between RO and SMASH, CRUEL no longer own stations or have presence there. ---------------------------------
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nitr0s
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Posted - 2005.08.21 21:26:00 -
[488]
We should have this renamed to the; General Killah/Imperium Conquest thread.
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Roger Dodger
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Posted - 2005.08.22 01:28:00 -
[489]
Originally by: nitr0s We should have this renamed to the; General Killah/Imperium Conquest thread.
If you have something constructive to post, get on your main and post it.
If not, shut the hell up.
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nitr0s
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Posted - 2005.08.22 02:43:00 -
[490]
Originally by: Roger Dodger
Originally by: nitr0s We should have this renamed to the; General Killah/Imperium Conquest thread.
If you have something constructive to post, get on your main and post it.
If not, shut the hell up.
pot-kettle?
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hired goon
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Posted - 2005.08.22 10:53:00 -
[491]
But isn't all 0.0 'high risk' anyway? If a high-risk marker is added with Jercho/o-syn next to it, better also put Doom, Epic, and also Evol (I think I've seen them around recently)
Because (not to flame or anything, this is from my own experience) DOOM corp is more of a danger around that area, not least because they spread out over PB more and shoot neutrals.
Infact, it is debatable Jericho/o-syn need a high-risk at all since they are only a risk to some corps, not all corps like DOOM. A generic high-risk though might be ok.
But then again, I wonder if all 0.0 isn't high risk anyway, so do we put that marker everywhere? Or not, leaving players to assume the obviousness that all 0.0 is dangerous anyway? Then we are back to square one. ------------
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Pastora
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Posted - 2005.08.22 11:25:00 -
[492]
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Joshua Foiritain
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Posted - 2005.08.22 17:54:00 -
[493]
Let see;
- RO/Cruel count as one alliance.Kick them both out of the region, keep em out for a week and then come back 
- Roleplayer Infestation doesnt describe anything. Hell its more confusing then something really confusing and makes Roleplayers sound like bad people. For now ive updated Pirate Infestation to "Pirate Infestation // Alliance Warzone" to indicate people are shooting other people and that some of them may be pirates or simply alliance pilots who targeted the wrong person.
Marking every corp that attacks a 0.0 alliance on the map would be a lot of work. ------------------
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Zandramus
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Posted - 2005.08.22 19:01:00 -
[494]
Edited by: Zandramus on 22/08/2005 19:02:02
Originally by: General Killah Please change the map to show Vale contested only between RO and SMASH, CRUEL no longer own stations or have presence there.
We have no interest in owning the stations in Vale, we simply want to kill anyone else who ownes them other than RO alliance, so if thats you we will assist RO aliance in whatever operations they require.
Since we are not miners there was realy no need for us to hold LS-JEP station other than keeping you from having it, we plainly figured that it would be more fun to let you have it and then to conduct raids on your miners when they werent docking and logging off.
Please keep the Vale area contested and a warzone for the forseeable future as we dont have any intentions of letting SMASH/4s/Xanadu/huff live there in peace.
Zandramus
Passes Now Available for 0.0 access
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Corak
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Posted - 2005.08.22 19:30:00 -
[495]
Detorid is war zone too atm . wach kills in last 24 h
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General Killah
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Posted - 2005.08.22 20:14:00 -
[496]
Originally by: Zandramus Edited by: Zandramus on 22/08/2005 19:02:02
Originally by: General Killah Please change the map to show Vale contested only between RO and SMASH, CRUEL no longer own stations or have presence there.
We have no interest in owning the stations in Vale, we simply want to kill anyone else who ownes them other than RO alliance, so if thats you we will assist RO aliance in whatever operations they require.
Since we are not miners there was realy no need for us to hold LS-JEP station other than keeping you from having it, we plainly figured that it would be more fun to let you have it and then to conduct raids on your miners when they werent docking and logging off.
Please keep the Vale area contested and a warzone for the forseeable future as we dont have any intentions of letting SMASH/4s/Xanadu/huff live there in peace.
4S?
Who the hell...?
Anyways, fact is CRUEL own nothing there anymore. Geminate is also warzone for that matter as we raid it too.
But that's already marked I think. ---------------------------------
(\_/) (O.o) (> <) This is Bunny. Copy Bunny into your signature to help him on his way to world domination. |

pershphanie
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Posted - 2005.08.22 23:49:00 -
[497]
Originally by: Joshua Foiritain Let see: - Roleplayer Infestation doesnt describe anything. Hell its more confusing then something really confusing and makes Roleplayers sound like bad people.
They are bad people. |

Tatsue Nuko
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Posted - 2005.08.23 05:40:00 -
[498]
You just told Josh that he's a bad person, Pers... Good tactic. 
Looks good from my POV Josh. Keep it going.
Feel the ♥ |

Latton CALLAN
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Posted - 2005.08.23 07:58:00 -
[499]
I want remind to person posting here, that's your post will be delected regularly in this thread because it is only used for map maker. If people want to discuss political stuff, I suggest them to make a thread in appropriate area. But certainly not here if you want to debate about political stuff.
So read again the post N¦02 about rules.
Regards,
Latton ----------- >> COLSUP: COsortium des SociÚtÚs Unies Pacifiques recrute ! |

Drexciyian
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Posted - 2005.08.23 10:54:00 -
[500]
http://www.killboard.net
My Evil Half |
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Latton CALLAN
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Posted - 2005.08.23 13:00:00 -
[501]
Edited by: Latton CALLAN on 23/08/2005 13:00:46 http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=109694
Originally by: Abdalion, ISD, Forum Moderator, Interstellar Services Department
Killmails
The posting of killmails or use of killboard links may be considered as trolling or off-topic, and subject to removal or warning.
There will be no discussion allowed of privately run killboard issues/accuracies taking place in this forum. It has been proven that such discussions inevitably invite ill-spirited comments and off-topic issues. It is recommended that you contact the administrator of the private killboard wherein an error is perceived.
Thanks!
----------- >> COLSUP: COsortium des SociÚtÚs Unies Pacifiques recrute ! |

Pehova Mindtriq
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Posted - 2005.08.23 13:46:00 -
[502]
Originally by: Joshua Foiritain
Marking every corp that attacks a 0.0 alliance on the map would be a lot of work.
Agree if you gonna track every corp movement in 0.0 you wont get to play eve at all. Btw I like the grafics for contested area you have in the map, keep on the good work.
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Angry Dan
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Posted - 2005.08.23 14:53:00 -
[503]
TY for the update. Still not sure if thats exactly right, but it's as close it'll get after turning 3d to 2d. I don't kow if this would take too much effort, but is it possible to draw Syndicate and Providence sepreatley, as a lot of small alliances there are claimng constellations rather than regions. it would provide better information than the current scale.
I'd be intrested to the NPC alliances represented on the map as well, but I don't know if thats practical. They are an important part of the in gmae politics, after all. Would it be possible to include them?
And again, thank you for taking the time and effort to produce such a wonderful resource. ++++++++++++++++++++ Founder member of the Huzzah Federation. Remember, the grass is greener on our side of the fence Widowmakers director Fear my kneepads of allure!
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QwaarJet
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Posted - 2005.08.26 14:07:00 -
[504]
Edited by: QwaarJet on 26/08/2005 14:08:44 please delete. "Hobbes, she stepped into the Perimter Of Wisdom.Run!" |

Imperium Command
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Posted - 2005.08.26 19:18:00 -
[505]
Delve is under heavy attack from anti-bob forces. Please add a warzone marker.
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Tiberius Caesar
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Posted - 2005.08.26 20:07:00 -
[506]
Originally by: Imperium Command Delve is under heavy attack from anti-bob forces. Please add a warzone marker.
  
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Bizarre
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Posted - 2005.08.26 22:12:00 -
[507]
Originally by: Imperium Command Delve is under heavy attack from anti-bob forces. Please add a warzone marker.
go home.
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viper adt
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Posted - 2005.08.26 23:15:00 -
[508]
Originally by: Bizarre
Originally by: Imperium Command Delve is under heavy attack from anti-bob forces. Please add a warzone marker.
go home.
http://www.killboard.net/?p=details&id=36672
Bob miners 
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Carth Jared
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Posted - 2005.08.26 23:44:00 -
[509]
Originally by: viper adt
Originally by: Bizarre
Originally by: Imperium Command Delve is under heavy attack from anti-bob forces. Please add a warzone marker.
go home.
http://www.killboard.net/?p=details&id=36672
Bob miners 
omg loel cuz liek bob arent allowed to mine lolz
:| ATUK Killboard | 5 Killboard
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Elenor
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Posted - 2005.08.26 23:45:00 -
[510]
Could u pls let us decide if we want a marker or not.
And plz post ur own kills and not any kills one of us made
thx in advance
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Cmd Woodlouse
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Posted - 2005.08.26 23:54:00 -
[511]
I would like to see IMP refrain from posting about "warzones" which:
a. arent warzones cause a ganking force got down there once or twice
b. IMP is not involved at all
Also we dont know of an "anti bob coalition"
G is here to fight BoB.
Thats all, thx.
-G- Pink Power
Darko1107 > so play a fluffy game Darko1107 > like pokemon |

Vlandarr
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Posted - 2005.08.27 00:21:00 -
[512]
Originally by: Cmd Woodlouse I would like to see IMP refrain from posting about "warzones" which:
a. arent warzones cause a ganking force got down there once or twice
b. IMP is not involved at all
Also we dont know of an "anti bob coalition"
G is here to fight BoB.
Thats all, thx.

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Dianabolic
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Posted - 2005.08.27 00:22:00 -
[513]
BoB confirm Cmdr Woodlouse's assesement.
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Blacklight
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Posted - 2005.08.27 00:27:00 -
[514]
BoB acknowledges that G are here to fight us and do so to the best of their ability. Not sure you've been at it enough to deserve a warzone marker Woody but if you disagree I am sure we can compromise, it's only a map and both G & BoB know what's going on.
We don't acknowledge that there is any kind of concerted attack anywhere in our space by Imperium deserving of a warzone at the moment.
To be quite honest we don't acknowledge that Imperium are doing anything effective to fight the war against BoB, without their allies they would be dead already.
Eve Blacklight Style
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viper adt
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Posted - 2005.08.27 09:51:00 -
[515]
Originally by: Blacklight BoB acknowledges that G are here to fight us and do so to the best of their ability. Not sure you've been at it enough to deserve a warzone marker Woody but if you disagree I am sure we can compromise, it's only a map and both G & BoB know what's going on.
We don't acknowledge that there is any kind of concerted attack anywhere in our space by Imperium deserving of a warzone at the moment.
To be quite honest we don't acknowledge that Imperium are doing anything effective to fight the war against BoB, without their allies they would be dead already.
My killmail was just showing a bob miner getting hit by a G member, it was in no way connected to the IMP CMD post. Imp have been to delve quite a few times now, and fountain, it needs a warzone marker.
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viper adt
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Posted - 2005.08.27 10:23:00 -
[516]
Originally by: Blacklight To be quite honest we don't acknowledge that Imperium are doing anything effective to fight the war against BoB, without their allies they would be dead already.
http://www.killboard.net/?p=allkills http://www.killboard.net/?p=alldeaths
You find 5 BS losses to 2 doing nothing effective?
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dimensionZ
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Posted - 2005.08.27 10:30:00 -
[517]
Originally by: viper adt
Originally by: Blacklight To be quite honest we don't acknowledge that Imperium are doing anything effective to fight the war against BoB, without their allies they would be dead already.
http://www.killboard.net/?p=allkills http://www.killboard.net/?p=alldeaths
You find 5 BS losses to 2 doing nothing effective?
1) no killboard links 2) mind if i run some stats for the past 3 weeks and see the results ?
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Bizarre
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Posted - 2005.08.27 10:33:00 -
[518]
Originally by: viper adt
Originally by: Blacklight BoB acknowledges that G are here to fight us and do so to the best of their ability. Not sure you've been at it enough to deserve a warzone marker Woody but if you disagree I am sure we can compromise, it's only a map and both G & BoB know what's going on.
We don't acknowledge that there is any kind of concerted attack anywhere in our space by Imperium deserving of a warzone at the moment.
To be quite honest we don't acknowledge that Imperium are doing anything effective to fight the war against BoB, without their allies they would be dead already.
My killmail was just showing a bob miner getting hit by a G member, it was in no way connected to the IMP CMD post. Imp have been to delve quite a few times now, and fountain, it needs a warzone marker.
There's no Imp force worth mentioning in Delve. The only force in Delve atm is G. Stop lying to yourself Imp are not down here, Imp are in empire. If Delve deserves a warzone marker it should be G vs. BoB and nothing else.
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Dianabolic
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Posted - 2005.08.27 10:35:00 -
[519]
Originally by: viper adt
Originally by: Blacklight To be quite honest we don't acknowledge that Imperium are doing anything effective to fight the war against BoB, without their allies they would be dead already.
http://www.killboard.net/?p=allkills http://www.killboard.net/?p=alldeaths
You find 5 BS losses to 2 doing nothing effective?
haha, so desperate, way to point out ONE day of activity hahaha
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Joshua Foiritain
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Posted - 2005.08.27 13:14:00 -
[520]
Originally by: viper adt
Originally by: Blacklight To be quite honest we don't acknowledge that Imperium are doing anything effective to fight the war against BoB, without their allies they would be dead already.
http://www.killboard.net/?p=allkills http://www.killboard.net/?p=alldeaths
You find 5 BS losses to 2 doing nothing effective?
What should i be seeing? I see a 72 vs 17 bs kill ratio in bobs favor in the last 5 days alone? Thats quite a bit of isk btw  ------------------
[Coreli Corporation Mainframe] |
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Agil Scout
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Posted - 2005.08.27 13:51:00 -
[521]
Originally by: viper adt
Originally by: Bizarre
Originally by: Imperium Command Delve is under heavy attack from anti-bob forces. Please add a warzone marker.
go home.
http://www.killboard.net/?p=details&id=36672
Bob miners 
Come one ladies, dont be posting links to killboards that contain KILL MAILS now you imp shud realy adhear to the FORUM RULE'S mmkay!?.
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Light Darkness
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Posted - 2005.08.27 14:47:00 -
[522]
Great Wildlands have no attacks anymore from "old Foundation". This space is live in peace now.
Regards /LD ---------------------------------------------------------- -V- Public Killbord
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viper adt
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Posted - 2005.08.27 18:23:00 -
[523]
Originally by: Joshua Foiritain
Originally by: viper adt
Originally by: Blacklight To be quite honest we don't acknowledge that Imperium are doing anything effective to fight the war against BoB, without their allies they would be dead already.
http://www.killboard.net/?p=allkills http://www.killboard.net/?p=alldeaths
You find 5 BS losses to 2 doing nothing effective?
What should i be seeing? I see a 72 vs 17 bs kill ratio in bobs favor in the last 5 days alone? Thats quite a bit of isk btw 
I beg your pardon? 72 imperium battleship losses in the past 5 days? I think not.
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viper adt
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Posted - 2005.08.27 18:24:00 -
[524]
Originally by: Bizarre
Originally by: viper adt
Originally by: Blacklight BoB acknowledges that G are here to fight us and do so to the best of their ability. Not sure you've been at it enough to deserve a warzone marker Woody but if you disagree I am sure we can compromise, it's only a map and both G & BoB know what's going on.
We don't acknowledge that there is any kind of concerted attack anywhere in our space by Imperium deserving of a warzone at the moment.
To be quite honest we don't acknowledge that Imperium are doing anything effective to fight the war against BoB, without their allies they would be dead already.
My killmail was just showing a bob miner getting hit by a G member, it was in no way connected to the IMP CMD post. Imp have been to delve quite a few times now, and fountain, it needs a warzone marker.
There's no Imp force worth mentioning in Delve. The only force in Delve atm is G. Stop lying to yourself Imp are not down here, Imp are in empire. If Delve deserves a warzone marker it should be G vs. BoB and nothing else.
One fatal flaw in what you have said, imp are in empire... even tho we are fighting and killing BoB battleships in 4C as shown by your killboard.
Go lie to someone else.
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Dianabolic
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Posted - 2005.08.27 18:44:00 -
[525]
Originally by: viper adt One fatal flaw in what you have said, imp are in empire... even tho we are fighting and killing BoB battleships in 4C as shown by your killboard.
Go lie to someone else.
Where's the lie? We said that imp weren't in Delve, you confirm this by stating that you're in empire.
We said that we agree [g] are operating in Delve, albeit at a fairly low tempo it is enough to warrant the suggestion of a warzone marker (just about) and I'm sure they'd agree with that, too.
So, a friendly tip: Wind your neck in.
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viper adt
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Posted - 2005.08.27 19:25:00 -
[526]
Originally by: Dianabolic
Originally by: viper adt One fatal flaw in what you have said, imp are in empire... even tho we are fighting and killing BoB battleships in 4C as shown by your killboard.
Go lie to someone else.
Where's the lie? We said that imp weren't in Delve, you confirm this by stating that you're in empire.
We said that we agree [g] are operating in Delve, albeit at a fairly low tempo it is enough to warrant the suggestion of a warzone marker (just about) and I'm sure they'd agree with that, too.
So, a friendly tip: Wind your neck in.
A friendly tip to you, get your eyes checked. Not once did i say we were in empire. That was the lie that bizzare told... sheesh talk about failing before you start...
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Dianabolic
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Posted - 2005.08.27 20:34:00 -
[527]
Originally by: viper adt
Originally by: Dianabolic
Originally by: viper adt One fatal flaw in what you have said, imp are in empire... even tho we are fighting and killing BoB battleships in 4C as shown by your killboard.
Go lie to someone else.
Where's the lie? We said that imp weren't in Delve, you confirm this by stating that you're in empire.
We said that we agree [g] are operating in Delve, albeit at a fairly low tempo it is enough to warrant the suggestion of a warzone marker (just about) and I'm sure they'd agree with that, too.
So, a friendly tip: Wind your neck in.
A friendly tip to you, get your eyes checked. Not once did i say we were in empire. That was the lie that bizzare told... sheesh talk about failing before you start...
My apologies, that wasn't how I read it.
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viper adt
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Posted - 2005.08.27 22:09:00 -
[528]
Originally by: Dianabolic
Originally by: viper adt
Originally by: Dianabolic
Originally by: viper adt One fatal flaw in what you have said, imp are in empire... even tho we are fighting and killing BoB battleships in 4C as shown by your killboard.
Go lie to someone else.
Where's the lie? We said that imp weren't in Delve, you confirm this by stating that you're in empire.
We said that we agree [g] are operating in Delve, albeit at a fairly low tempo it is enough to warrant the suggestion of a warzone marker (just about) and I'm sure they'd agree with that, too.
So, a friendly tip: Wind your neck in.
A friendly tip to you, get your eyes checked. Not once did i say we were in empire. That was the lie that bizzare told... sheesh talk about failing before you start...
My apologies, that wasn't how I read it.
I appologise for my harsh reply also.
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Abdalion

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Posted - 2005.08.28 03:57:00 -
[529]
Watch it.
Read the rules of this thread, AND the rules of this forum, I really don't want to have to send you a formal reminder. --
I ♥ You.... ® Shepherd of the [23] |
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Elenor
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Posted - 2005.08.29 02:02:00 -
[530]
Just again for u all guys.
1. G isnt intrested in a market ATM 1.1 G never has been added to any marker but we've been in Fountain and in OR, but we want to fight the "enemie" and dont want to post about a marker. 2. If G would like to have a marker well let u know 2.1 We know how to let u guys setup a marker 3. Sending a ganking squad is not realy a war, its fun and ganking 3.3 ganking is boring but effective 4. See u all again soon in Space and dont spame the Forum, fight all of u, now :P
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TWD
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Posted - 2005.08.29 18:12:00 -
[531]
BoB is requesting to remove contested status between Imperium and BoB over Fountain, we have seen no Imperium ships in Fountain for a while, except the odd frigate or cruiser. |

FatBalls
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Posted - 2005.08.29 21:30:00 -
[532]
Apostles of Insanity are asking you remove bobby from being in our space. We only see a few of them at best and they are merely huggin a pos and or logging off. Their is only four in our space atm so thats not really an assault is it ? Also Imperium fleets are all over fountain space its just bobby arent... If you want to see somethig you would have to be in that space. So please feel free to contest things but we have the screen shots to prove it or we can escort the person whom is making this map out and all thru our space to prove you wrong. as for being in g space what happened to you all when g took you all out and then your pos ? I do not think they are there anymore either.
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Vince Draken
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Posted - 2005.08.29 21:40:00 -
[533]
Originally by: FatBalls Apostles of Insanity are asking you remove bobby from being in our space. We only see a few of them at best and they are merely huggin a pos and or logging off. Their is only four in our space atm so thats not really an assault is it ? Also Imperium fleets are all over fountain space its just bobby arent... If you want to see somethig you would have to be in that space. So please feel free to contest things but we have the screen shots to prove it or we can escort the person whom is making this map out and all thru our space to prove you wrong. as for being in g space what happened to you all when g took you all out and then your pos ? I do not think they are there anymore either.
You posting on behalf of Imperium now?
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Alasse Cuthalion
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Posted - 2005.08.29 21:41:00 -
[534]
lying isn't "cool" Fatballs.
The hostile forces in Fountain over the last week have been:
G - full fleet which has been active in YZ-LQL, mostly destroyed on Saturday night, retreated back to Cloud Ring to deal with others it seems.
ELA - Frigate/cruiser raids in to core and a continued presence in the D4KU area during US timezones.
DMGI - As above but less frequent and fewer numbers.
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pershphanie
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Posted - 2005.08.29 22:14:00 -
[535]
The forsaken empire alliance has total control of northern vale. There is no one there contesting that. The only smash/cruel in vale are to the far south on the germinate border. |

Cmd Woodlouse
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Posted - 2005.08.30 09:57:00 -
[536]
Originally by: Alasse Cuthalion
G - full fleet which has been active in YZ-LQL, mostly destroyed on Saturday night, retreated back to Cloud Ring to deal with others it seems.
Im sorry, but our "full fleet" doesnt consist of only 9 BS 
And yes, we went back to fight SE.
-G- Pink Power
Darko1107 > so play a fluffy game Darko1107 > like pokemon |

csebal
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Posted - 2005.08.30 10:27:00 -
[537]
Edited by: csebal on 30/08/2005 10:28:38
Originally by: TWD BoB is requesting to remove contested status between Imperium and BoB over Fountain, we have seen no Imperium ships in Fountain for a while, except the odd frigate or cruiser.
Oye m8, why didn't you tell me? Guys in 4c are sitting at the POS all day, so we may as well go and visit fountain for a change. We still consider it home ya know. So if you need some xelas/bob ships removed from there, drop me an eve-mail and we'll organize somethin'.
csebal is requesting the system A1CON to be marked as contested between HUN corp and BOB. The spirits of our clones died in defense of that system still haunt the Xelas / BOB people living there, so we definitely have a constant - even though spiritual - presence there. Or maybe we could just have a little ghost marker there, saying it is haunted by HUN spirits? :)
to the mods / mapmaker: if you find my request to be.. well.. inadequate. well i'll get over it i guess. - This post is my personal opinion. It does not represent the standpoint of the HUN Corporation or that of the Imperium Alliance in any way. - - |

Dianabolic
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Posted - 2005.08.30 14:57:00 -
[538]
Originally by: csebal Oye m8, why didn't you tell me? Guys in 4c are sitting at the POS all day, so we may as well go and visit fountain for a change. We still consider it home ya know. So if you need some xelas/bob ships removed from there, drop me an eve-mail and we'll organize somethin'.
We've spent the last 3 days and nights sitting in the open hoping we'd be attacked, when we have been attacked we've repelled it and held the battlefield. Else how have we got the kills we've got?
Don't lie to people, csebal, it sullies the good name of HUN.
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Dianabolic
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Posted - 2005.08.30 14:58:00 -
[539]
Originally by: Cmd Woodlouse Im sorry, but our "full fleet" doesnt consist of only 9 BS 
And yes, we went back to fight SE.
I think (hope) alasse meant that the fleet that was there has now left, damn I hope your fleet is more than 9 bs . What happened to it and how is immaterial, I know we had fun, I hope you and your guys did, too.
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Alasse Cuthalion
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Posted - 2005.08.30 15:09:00 -
[540]
Originally by: Cmd Woodlouse
Originally by: Alasse Cuthalion
G - full fleet which has been active in YZ-LQL, mostly destroyed on Saturday night, retreated back to Cloud Ring to deal with others it seems.
Im sorry, but our "full fleet" doesnt consist of only 9 BS 
And yes, we went back to fight SE.
My apologies Woodlouse... I didn't mean to imply your "entire combat force", just that the fleet was a mixed one including battleships.
I had some *****ing fights with your guys in Fountain core and it took us a while to dislodge you. No offence/trolling intended.
Regards,
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Cmd Woodlouse
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Posted - 2005.08.30 15:17:00 -
[541]
Originally by: Dianabolic
Originally by: Cmd Woodlouse Im sorry, but our "full fleet" doesnt consist of only 9 BS 
And yes, we went back to fight SE.
I think (hope) alasse meant that the fleet that was there has now left, damn I hope your fleet is more than 9 bs . What happened to it and how is immaterial, I know we had fun, I hope you and your guys did, too.
Be sure we had tons of fun!
And now u can maybe understand why we are angry at stain 
Anyways, to get back on topic: mapmaker could mark a warzone marker in lower snydicate (pf-346). It could say SE/ASCN vs. G/IMP.
If SE and ASCN agree, that is.
-G- Pink Power
Darko1107 > so play a fluffy game Darko1107 > like pokemon |

csebal
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Posted - 2005.08.30 17:05:00 -
[542]
Originally by: Dianabolic
We've spent the last 3 days and nights sitting in the open hoping we'd be attacked, when we have been attacked we've repelled it and held the battlefield. Else how have we got the kills we've got?
I made a map change request - which would be fun to see - and told TWD to tell me, if they miss our company in Fountain core. Take your off topic comments into other threads please.
Quote:
Don't lie to people, csebal, it sullies the good name of HUN.
Please see my posts in this thread about lies and the truth on these boards. http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=218089 - This post is my personal opinion. It does not represent the standpoint of the HUN Corporation or that of the Imperium Alliance in any way. - - |

Dianabolic
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Posted - 2005.08.30 17:55:00 -
[543]
csebal, u said that we were sitting at the POS all day, I pointed out that that was, at best, a gross inaccuracy.
If that wasn't what you meant then I misunderstood, my apologies.
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viper adt
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Posted - 2005.08.30 19:19:00 -
[544]
Originally by: Dianabolic csebal, u said that we were sitting at the POS all day, I pointed out that that was, at best, a gross inaccuracy.
If that wasn't what you meant then I misunderstood, my apologies.
Diane, dont speak absolute twoddle.
Your battleships sit in the POS, when your frigates report that theres a BS undocked or a cruiser, your BS's warp to them... If theres a fleet however, your frigates return to the POS.
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Dianabolic
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Posted - 2005.08.30 20:33:00 -
[545]
Originally by: viper adt
Originally by: Dianabolic csebal, u said that we were sitting at the POS all day, I pointed out that that was, at best, a gross inaccuracy.
If that wasn't what you meant then I misunderstood, my apologies.
Diane, dont speak absolute twoddle.
Your battleships sit in the POS, when your frigates report that theres a BS undocked or a cruiser, your BS's warp to them... If theres a fleet however, your frigates return to the POS.
Yeah, ok mate, keep telling yourself that, you and I both know who's telling the truth, people can see our killboard if they want confirmation, just because we're not dieing doesn't mean you're not shooting us.
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viper adt
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Posted - 2005.08.31 08:53:00 -
[546]
Originally by: Dianabolic
Originally by: viper adt
Originally by: Dianabolic csebal, u said that we were sitting at the POS all day, I pointed out that that was, at best, a gross inaccuracy.
If that wasn't what you meant then I misunderstood, my apologies.
Diane, dont speak absolute twoddle.
Your battleships sit in the POS, when your frigates report that theres a BS undocked or a cruiser, your BS's warp to them... If theres a fleet however, your frigates return to the POS.
Yeah, ok mate, keep telling yourself that, you and I both know who's telling the truth, people can see our killboard if they want confirmation, just because we're not dieing doesn't mean you're not shooting us.
And we arent down in yz killing you...
Josh if you need proof contact Aneu Angellus ingame he will be more than happy to provide his own kill-logs of BoB in YZ over the past two days... "This post is and has no bearing on Imperium's views! it is only my viewpoint and should not be taken as anything said by my alliance." |

ZelRox
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Posted - 2005.08.31 09:28:00 -
[547]
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DB Preacher
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Posted - 2005.08.31 09:32:00 -
[548]
1 random dude killing 1 random bs and a proph in a week does not mean you are contesting the region.
dbp
Current RKK Ranking: (CAL4) Soldier
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Cmd Woodlouse
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Posted - 2005.08.31 10:10:00 -
[549]
Originally by: viper adt Josh if you need proof contact Aneu Angellus ingame he will be more than happy to provide his own kill-logs of BoB in YZ over the past two days...
Erm... Hmmm... Ok, just have to say this that Aneu might not be the best person on reliable Information as he was the same person who spread the rumour that G had killed a BoB Dreadnought, which wasnt even remotely true 
-G- Pink Power
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Treebeard dk
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Posted - 2005.08.31 10:45:00 -
[550]
Great Wildlands is no longer contested its 100% owned by V Alliance and have been for several weeks now. ------
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Dianabolic
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Posted - 2005.08.31 11:02:00 -
[551]
Originally by: viper adt ...over the past two days...
lol
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Juan Andalusian
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Posted - 2005.08.31 12:33:00 -
[552]
Originally by: viper adt
Originally by: Dianabolic
Originally by: viper adt
Originally by: Dianabolic csebal, u said that we were sitting at the POS all day, I pointed out that that was, at best, a gross inaccuracy.
If that wasn't what you meant then I misunderstood, my apologies.
Diane, dont speak absolute twoddle.
Your battleships sit in the POS, when your frigates report that theres a BS undocked or a cruiser, your BS's warp to them... If theres a fleet however, your frigates return to the POS.
Yeah, ok mate, keep telling yourself that, you and I both know who's telling the truth, people can see our killboard if they want confirmation, just because we're not dieing doesn't mean you're not shooting us.
And we arent down in yz killing you...
Josh if you need proof contact Aneu Angellus ingame he will be more than happy to provide his own kill-logs of BoB in YZ over the past two days...
There is a difference between harrasment and conquest. BoB is in OR with a POS, 1/3 of it's full force at all times, while IMP presence in YZ is Rubra corp and Anue and his 2 day kill logs. If that deserves a contested region marker to IMP then TWD should be crowned King of FADE and Bizarre should be the Duke of c4c and l-c.
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Darko1107
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Posted - 2005.08.31 12:40:00 -
[553]
Originally by: Cmd Woodlouse
Originally by: viper adt Josh if you need proof contact Aneu Angellus ingame he will be more than happy to provide his own kill-logs of BoB in YZ over the past two days...
Erm... Hmmm... Ok, just have to say this that Aneu might not be the best person on reliable Information as he was the same person who spread the rumour that G had killed a BoB Dreadnought, which wasnt even remotely true 
No way, Anue is the most reliable person ingame!
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Vince Draken
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Posted - 2005.08.31 14:42:00 -
[554]
Originally by: Dianabolic
Originally by: viper adt ...over the past two days...
lol

That is all
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FalloutBoy
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Posted - 2005.09.01 19:01:00 -
[555]
meh just throw up a giant sign saying North Vs. South war in progress all 0.0 regions are war zones, although fight is mostly consentrated in the Northern and Western regions
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pershphanie
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Posted - 2005.09.01 21:20:00 -
[556]
Originally by: FalloutBoy meh just throw up a giant sign saying North Vs. South war in progress all 0.0 regions are war zones, although fight is mostly consentrated in the Northern and Western regions
Yep. Sounds pretty accurate.
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DB Preacher
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Posted - 2005.09.01 23:16:00 -
[557]
Regions should continue to be on a region to region basis as they have been.
dbp
Current RKK Ranking: (CAL4) Soldier
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Sochin
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Posted - 2005.09.01 23:46:00 -
[558]
Originally by: viper adt
Originally by: Dianabolic csebal, u said that we were sitting at the POS all day, I pointed out that that was, at best, a gross inaccuracy.
If that wasn't what you meant then I misunderstood, my apologies.
Diane, dont speak absolute twoddle.
Your battleships sit in the POS, when your frigates report that theres a BS undocked or a cruiser, your BS's warp to them... If theres a fleet however, your frigates return to the POS.
I must have imagined all those hours camping the stations in 4c with 20 in gang and 45 in local, and not seeing a peep from Imperium the entire time other then Aneu docking and redocking over and over.
We play outside the POS alot, you guys just need to actually UNDOCK to notice.
Nemo me impune lacessit
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Kuang
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Posted - 2005.09.02 00:14:00 -
[559]
Edited by: Kuang on 02/09/2005 00:14:52 Would like to mention that the Stain region ( not paragon soul area ) ... should be considered contested if the current situation does not change .... I do understand that some stain went up north but if they choose to do that they are opening a achance to lose total control of one of their regions
VIRII and others have been in control of upper stain ( 16-18 hours of the day and haven't been blobbed out since they went up north )
What another corp noticed on another thread ... half way down poster was gort of mass
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Zubenelgenubi
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Posted - 2005.09.02 00:43:00 -
[560]
Quote: I do understand that some stain went up north
Bit of understatemnt
What are you guys upto down there anyway killing POS or what?
Dunno if you quite merit a contested region yet....
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Elenia Kheynes
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Posted - 2005.09.02 01:38:00 -
[561]
Originally by: Zubenelgenubi
Quote: I do understand that some stain went up north
Bit of understatemnt
What are you guys upto down there anyway killing POS or what?
Dunno if you quite merit a contested region yet....
we just want you to come back you know  it's not like if you were gonna win battles in the north ;s
Dear friendly customer... Can I have your money ?
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Weeman
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Posted - 2005.09.02 07:14:00 -
[562]
Virii look to gank and get cheap kills, not claim space. Being able to dock in an npc station in 0.0 does not constitute a contested region.
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Hast
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Posted - 2005.09.02 09:27:00 -
[563]
5 people docked in lgk does not constitute a contested region Virii 
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shooting dutchman
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Posted - 2005.09.02 14:04:00 -
[564]
Virii isn't a corp that is looking for easy kills, they fight even if they are heavily outnumbered.
if stain can't control there space then it should be contested.
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FalloutBoy
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Posted - 2005.09.02 14:37:00 -
[565]
Virri contesting stain? thats laughable at best. just because we are off on vacaction doesn't mean to claim the region. All our conquerable stations are locked up so all the assets in our space are out of your tiny little corps grasp. Nnow if your bored in our space you could always pull out and help your allies in the north, because they need it
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Cmd Woodlouse
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Posted - 2005.09.02 14:45:00 -
[566]
Originally by: FalloutBoy Virri contesting stain? thats laughable at best. just because we are off on vacaction doesn't mean to claim the region. All our conquerable stations are locked up so all the assets in our space are out of your tiny little corps grasp. Nnow if your bored in our space you could always pull out and help your allies in the north, because they need it
If 20-30 ppl max means SE is "out on vaction" then u have a serious huge amount of empire players/agent runners.
Cause thats the amount left in PF-346 camping the gate.
-G- Pink Power
Darko1107 > so play a fluffy game Darko1107 > like pokemon |

FalloutBoy
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Posted - 2005.09.02 14:53:00 -
[567]
Originally by: Cmd Woodlouse Edited by: Cmd Woodlouse on 02/09/2005 14:51:37
Originally by: FalloutBoy Virri contesting stain? thats laughable at best. just because we are off on vacaction doesn't mean to claim the region. All our conquerable stations are locked up so all the assets in our space are out of your tiny little corps grasp. Nnow if your bored in our space you could always pull out and help your allies in the north, because they need it
If 20-30 ppl max means SE is "out on vaction" then u have a serious huge amount of empire players/agent runners.
Cause thats the amount left in PF-346 camping the gate. The amount of SE in the north has dropped CONSIDERABLY.
We dont need help, stop your propaganda. Infact SE has totally been driven out of Outer Ring. Since one week at most the only thing you are doing is camping the PF-346 shooting at EVERYTHING not blue to you.
Thats like pirating in my eyes. As soon as some opposition meets your gatecamp you either run to empire or get smashed into oblivion.
look closer just because our individual gangs are smaller doesn't mean our forces have droped at all.
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Cmd Woodlouse
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Posted - 2005.09.02 15:10:00 -
[568]
Originally by: FalloutBoy
Originally by: Cmd Woodlouse Edited by: Cmd Woodlouse on 02/09/2005 14:51:37
Originally by: FalloutBoy Virri contesting stain? thats laughable at best. just because we are off on vacaction doesn't mean to claim the region. All our conquerable stations are locked up so all the assets in our space are out of your tiny little corps grasp. Nnow if your bored in our space you could always pull out and help your allies in the north, because they need it
If 20-30 ppl max means SE is "out on vaction" then u have a serious huge amount of empire players/agent runners.
Cause thats the amount left in PF-346 camping the gate. The amount of SE in the north has dropped CONSIDERABLY.
We dont need help, stop your propaganda. Infact SE has totally been driven out of Outer Ring. Since one week at most the only thing you are doing is camping the PF-346 shooting at EVERYTHING not blue to you.
Thats like pirating in my eyes. As soon as some opposition meets your gatecamp you either run to empire or get smashed into oblivion.
look closer just because our individual gangs are smaller doesn't mean our forces have droped at all.
Falloutboy i am very active in the cloud ring / sndicate corridor.
If your small gangs are the ones in Orvolle docked at station, then it doesnt change things at all, does it?
Tbh we would like SE to get us, to fight us and to invade us. Give it atleast a try, i cant imagine that PF-346 is THAT exciting.
-G- Pink Power
Darko1107 > so play a fluffy game Darko1107 > like pokemon |

Darko1107
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Posted - 2005.09.02 15:23:00 -
[569]
Looks like SE are as **** at propaganda as they are at PVP.
No offence, but get a fkin clue.
Your alliance has taken a kick in the face and a sharp wake up call that your not all that since you came to the north. G need no help now that they are back in Cloud Ring, its quite clear to everyone that they can deal with you quite easily on thier own. Maybe if you left your safespot in PF-346 for longer than 5 mins to gank a noob ship at the orvolle gate you would realise this.
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shivan
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Posted - 2005.09.02 16:03:00 -
[570]
Stain Empire forces are activly hunting and engageing IRON GIMP in Syndacte and Cloud Ring --------------------------------------- (\_/) (O.o) (> <) This is Bunny. Copy Bunny into your signature to help him on his way to world domination http://ZeldereX.com/?topic=7599
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shivan
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Posted - 2005.09.02 16:04:00 -
[571]
Originally by: shooting dutchman Virii isn't a corp that is looking for easy kills, they fight even if they are heavily outnumbered.
if stain can't control there space then it should be contested.
OMFG,
go away and come back when you wanner post with your alt --------------------------------------- (\_/) (O.o) (> <) This is Bunny. Copy Bunny into your signature to help him on his way to world domination http://ZeldereX.com/?topic=7599
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Cmd Woodlouse
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Posted - 2005.09.02 16:27:00 -
[572]
Originally by: shivan Stain Empire forces are activly hunting and engageing IRON GIMP in Syndacte and Cloud Ring
No u dont do anything effectively xcept hug the Orvolle gate in PF-346.
-G- Pink Power
Darko1107 > so play a fluffy game Darko1107 > like pokemon |

William Dampier
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Posted - 2005.09.02 17:17:00 -
[573]
You know I am so tired of rules in these forums only seeming to apply to certain people. The post by kuang was an FYI, we didn't really wish to "contest" Stain region, it was more a statement that if you can't control your own space you shouldn't be off in someone else's. Mods are constantly in this thread talking about no flames this and that stay on the map topic yet you guys are allowed to make statements like we only have 5 docked in LGK, we don;t fight fair, we only gank... blah blah blah this thread is for the map maker to decide as an impartial party what needs to be on the map and what doesn't.
Now as for the propaganda BS about us only having 5 guys docked in LGK, and the bs about only ganking or this or that, you can say whatever you like, it's funny reading Stain alliance chat with 260+ people and seeing people ask for a gang to take on 10 virii and seeing no one respond, and seeing people get berated for announcing ship loses in chat because the leaders don't want it public how much the alliance is getting owned. Reading the Stain forums and seeing how you have to threaten people with fines for not sending members to deal with the "VIRII Issue", whatever.
Lets deal with facts Fact: Since we came to Stain space we have killed more people then anyone in the region, period (this includes kills on SE, 5, V, ASCN and various other entities) Fact: Since we came to Stain space we have complete run of the region the vast majority of the time
Now all that aside like I said it really wasn't a "place a contested sign now" post, it was a "if things don't change" post. But after reading these posts, I make a simple request to the map maker, visit our website and kill statistics look at the kill list since 07/15/05, click on the Stain Empire Stats and then compare those numbers and where they occurred to your other "contested regions" and you tell me if we deserve to have northern stain contested, cause that's what this thread is for right, for the map maker to be presented with evidence and make a conclusion based on that. Now if SE thinks this is an illegitimate claim they can post links to their evidence in the same period and you can look at those numbers, where they are at and against who and make your decision.
As far as our alliances in the north go, we are not members of any alliance north or otherwise, and from the intel we have (which includes sources within Stain Empire) it's not the northern alliances that need the help its Stain Empire. So maybe you should do yourself a favor and come back home and deal with our "tiny little corp", while you still have a home to come back to.
No other baseless accusations or comments will be dealt with, our numbers speak for themselves and feel free to refer to them the next time you feel compelled to talk about how we only gank or stay docked all the time, all 5 of us.
V I R I I Head Quarters & Kill Statistics http://virii.homeip.net
V I R I I - We Are Here For Your Daughters
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shooting dutchman
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Posted - 2005.09.02 17:40:00 -
[574]
Originally by: shivan
Originally by: shooting dutchman Virii isn't a corp that is looking for easy kills, they fight even if they are heavily outnumbered.
if stain can't control there space then it should be contested.
OMFG,
go away and come back when you wanner post with your alt
this is my 1 of my main's my other one is maria stallion, and I know what I talking about. thank you kindly :)
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Koth Krakenworth
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Posted - 2005.09.02 22:27:00 -
[575]
I'd like to see proof of Geminate being contested by SMASH. Bring me a couple of killmails and you guys can have the honor of keeping this status, though since I havn't heard of any confrontations for a long period of time in Geminate, I'd like to see if this is still the case. Sadly our corp isn't active on the nights where you guys have your primetime, so it's possible I've missed something. I've asked around with other RO/CRUEL guys and none seem to know about any losses to SMASH recently.
Thanks. And, I really tried to make this post as friendly as possible so please don't counter with flame.
I really tried 
I wont care if you have proof or not, I just like to keep this map as true as possible. I often use it myself and I hate being fed false information.
"It is a mistake to think you can solve any major problems just with potatoes."
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Robotek Hybrid
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Posted - 2005.09.03 06:45:00 -
[576]
just an FYI Vale of the Silents area doesnt correspond to what smash claim/control. claiming "Vale of the silent" is form the system jzv to ls-j and the stretch of space in between. The p3 corridor and above to tribute while it is in vale of the silent region has never been treated as such and is controled by the F-E alliance. --------------------------------------------
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Sir JoJo
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Posted - 2005.09.03 13:06:00 -
[577]
just let Joshua take a look in stain i am sure he will change the map if needed.
Originally by: Eris Discordia As a minmatar I have to say the only good Amarr is a dead Amarr
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Ramireza
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Posted - 2005.09.03 13:23:00 -
[578]
Edited by: Ramireza on 03/09/2005 13:23:29
Originally by: shivan Stain Empire forces are activly hunting and engageing IRON GIMP in Syndacte and Cloud Ring
Thats a joke, right ?
G VS. Stain after 1 Week : (and REALY only G and Stain)
Stain Losses / G Losses
Battleships54 / 7 Cruiser 51 / 11 Tech1 Frigs 35 / 22 Interceptors 41 / 22 Assault Frigs 18 / 7 HAC 8 / 5 Destroyer 10 / 0 Battlecruiser 9 / 3 Faction Frigs 1 / 0 Cloaker 1 / 0
231 / 77
nuff said
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Dianabolic
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Posted - 2005.09.03 13:58:00 -
[579]
Originally by: Ramireza Edited by: Ramireza on 03/09/2005 13:23:29
Originally by: shivan Stain Empire forces are activly hunting and engageing IRON GIMP in Syndacte and Cloud Ring
Thats a joke, right ?
G VS. Stain after 1 Week : (and REALY only G and Stain)
Stain Losses / G Losses
Battleships54 / 7 Cruiser 51 / 11 Tech1 Frigs 35 / 22 Interceptors 41 / 22 Assault Frigs 18 / 7 HAC 8 / 5 Destroyer 10 / 0 Battlecruiser 9 / 3 Faction Frigs 1 / 0 Cloaker 1 / 0
231 / 77
nuff said
Erm, haven't you just proved his point..?
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Darko1107
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Posted - 2005.09.03 14:07:00 -
[580]
Originally by: Dianabolic
Originally by: Ramireza Edited by: Ramireza on 03/09/2005 13:23:29
Originally by: shivan Stain Empire forces are activly hunting and engageing IRON GIMP in Syndacte and Cloud Ring
Thats a joke, right ?
G VS. Stain after 1 Week : (and REALY only G and Stain)
Stain Losses / G Losses
Battleships54 / 7 Cruiser 51 / 11 Tech1 Frigs 35 / 22 Interceptors 41 / 22 Assault Frigs 18 / 7 HAC 8 / 5 Destroyer 10 / 0 Battlecruiser 9 / 3 Faction Frigs 1 / 0 Cloaker 1 / 0
231 / 77
nuff said
Erm, haven't you just proved his point..?
Think the point was that they werent actively hunting, they are being actively hunted   
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Ramireza
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Posted - 2005.09.03 15:16:00 -
[581]
Originally by: Darko1107
Originally by: Dianabolic
Originally by: Ramireza Edited by: Ramireza on 03/09/2005 13:23:29
Originally by: shivan Stain Empire forces are activly hunting and engageing IRON GIMP in Syndacte and Cloud Ring
Thats a joke, right ?
G VS. Stain after 1 Week : (and REALY only G and Stain)
Stain Losses / G Losses
Battleships54 / 7 Cruiser 51 / 11 Tech1 Frigs 35 / 22 Interceptors 41 / 22 Assault Frigs 18 / 7 HAC 8 / 5 Destroyer 10 / 0 Battlecruiser 9 / 3 Faction Frigs 1 / 0 Cloaker 1 / 0
231 / 77
nuff said
Erm, haven't you just proved his point..?
Think the point was that they werent actively hunting, they are being actively hunted   
EXACTLY :)
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Dianabolic
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Posted - 2005.09.03 15:27:00 -
[582]
I still don't see the difference, they're engaging you, they may well be hunting you, you (according to your figures) are just getting more kills.
I think the post by Ramireza is unnecessary, tbh.
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Ramireza
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Posted - 2005.09.03 15:31:00 -
[583]
Edited by: Ramireza on 03/09/2005 15:31:48
Originally by: Dianabolic they're engaging you, they may well be hunting you,
No.
And THATS the point.
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Dianabolic
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Posted - 2005.09.03 16:57:00 -
[584]
Originally by: Ramireza Edited by: Ramireza on 03/09/2005 15:31:48
Originally by: Dianabolic they're engaging you, they may well be hunting you,
No.
And THATS the point.
Ramireza, I think you're getting confused by the English I'm using but, as your English is an awful lot better than my German, I'll let it slide 
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Darko1107
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Posted - 2005.09.03 17:08:00 -
[585]
Edited by: Darko1107 on 03/09/2005 17:08:41 No Really, stain are getting actively hunted, they are not hunting at all. They sit in pf-346 all day (mostly), the stupid targets come to them and get killed, not sure whether you can class that as hunting or not. I always here on ts from time to time "Lol an entire fleet just ran away from our 20 frigs", and you always know its exagerated a or a complete lie...
Until you meet SE! 
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Ramireza
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Posted - 2005.09.04 00:41:00 -
[586]
Originally by: Dianabolic
Originally by: Ramireza Edited by: Ramireza on 03/09/2005 15:31:48
Originally by: Dianabolic they're engaging you, they may well be hunting you,
No.
And THATS the point.
Ramireza, I think you're getting confused by the English I'm using but, as your English is an awful lot better than my German, I'll let it slide 
REALY SORRY, i know my english isnt the best. I will try to keep it more clearly in the future, give me time to improve it 
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Sarmaul
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Posted - 2005.09.04 12:41:00 -
[587]
I was wondering if it would be possible to release a one-off copy of the map that didn't have any territorial details on it, just the regions marked and shaded in the style of this one.
Working out the exact areas of Cloud Ring, Syndicate and Fountain or the majority of [5] space is a little difficult when you're trying to explain the regions to people :).
As this data would only change when CCP rework the routes, it wouldn't require any extra effort besides the initial time to make it.
Pleeeeeeeease?
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Joshua Foiritain
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Posted - 2005.09.04 14:54:00 -
[588]
Everything from page 1 up to this point can be deleted. ------------------
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Cmd Woodlouse
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Posted - 2005.09.04 17:13:00 -
[589]
SE has completely abandoned PF-346 and Orvolle. They seem to have left the north totally.
Correct me if i am wrong.
-G- Pink Power
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DrunkenOne
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Posted - 2005.09.04 18:54:00 -
[590]
Originally by: Cmd Woodlouse SE has completely abandoned PF-346 and Orvolle. They seem to have left the north totally.
Correct me if i am wrong.
I think they have bigger things back home to worry about now.
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QwaarJet
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Posted - 2005.09.04 20:44:00 -
[591]
Nexus union has 3 systems, so since you added frege, you could add us to the map. "Hobbes, she stepped into the Perimter Of Wisdom.Run!" |

danneh
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Posted - 2005.09.04 23:59:00 -
[592]
Originally by: QwaarJet Nexus union has 3 systems, so since you added frege, you could add us to the map.
Might wanna tell him what systems you are claiming.
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QwaarJet
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Posted - 2005.09.05 13:47:00 -
[593]
ZKYV-W, F-NMX6, J-OK0C. "Hobbes, she stepped into the Perimter Of Wisdom.Run!" |

General Killah
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Posted - 2005.09.05 21:10:00 -
[594]
Thanks for the mark Josh, all the Vale stations are now ours. ---------------------------------
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Sakura Nihil
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Posted - 2005.09.06 00:05:00 -
[595]
would it be possible to get a GIF animation of these maps when next week comes out, it would be cool to see the change of the borders over time
thx for this service!
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Amthrianius
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Posted - 2005.09.06 04:26:00 -
[596]
Venal is a warzone, ATUK and Black reign live in H-PA uncontestedly and have a large pos up here to demonstrate this. Minimal PA presence if im honest and the little groups they get are not much of a problem as they are ineffective :) ---------------
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AnubsiRa
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Posted - 2005.09.06 21:01:00 -
[597]
Why GW is Contested again -V- vs. F?? You see only at a few days 1-2 F guys in GW mostly docked that¦s not really a presence to Contest something ;).
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UnIQu3
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Posted - 2005.09.06 21:44:00 -
[598]
Think ya maybe have to make stain region contested ?!
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pershphanie
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Posted - 2005.09.06 23:42:00 -
[599]
Originally by: Amthrianius Venal is a warzone, ATUK and Black reign live in H-PA uncontestedly and have a large pos up here to demonstrate this. Minimal PA presence if im honest and the little groups they get are not much of a problem as they are ineffective :)
question... if you live up in hpa uncontested what happend to the first pos you put up there? |

FalloutBoy
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Posted - 2005.09.06 23:46:00 -
[600]
Edited by: FalloutBoy on 06/09/2005 23:56:35 forget it
need a sig? Gallery Contact me for more information |
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Moridin
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Posted - 2005.09.07 00:07:00 -
[601]
u might as well make the entire stain from paragon to catch contested
____ (\_/) (> <) (X.x) This is Headless Bunny. Copy Headless Bunny into your signature to help prevent his attempt at world domination.
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Trooper B99
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Posted - 2005.09.07 10:05:00 -
[602]
I don't know how "official" this was, but no one from COE gainsayed it.
COE leave Providence
I don't rightly know how this overtly effects the map, but I thought I'd pop it in for you Josh.
Wirykomi Team Racer - COLOSSUS Championships Year 106
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DB Preacher
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Posted - 2005.09.07 10:55:00 -
[603]
Since the map has been updated since TWD's statement I relay it again.
Fountain is not being contested.
thx dbp
Current RKK Ranking: (CAL5) Second Lieutenant
Drop by and say hi in Reikoku Forums.
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DoctorGonzo
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Posted - 2005.09.07 15:47:00 -
[604]
Originally by: DB Preacher Since the map has been updated since TWD's statement I relay it again.
Fountain is not being contested.
thx dbp
We might have to ask for the Outer Ring to be uncontested too as there is just no contest atm, IMP are putting up less of a fight than FA did.
Black Nova Corporation COO
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CdCommander
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Posted - 2005.09.08 00:03:00 -
[605]
ASCN hold Omist.......... for now anyways
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Cpt Pugwash
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Posted - 2005.09.08 00:47:00 -
[606]
Originally by: DB Preacher Since the map has been updated since TWD's statement I relay it again.
Fountain is not being contested.
thx dbp
I Contest this statement, FA, IMP, VC ELA+Friends all have people living and fighting in Fountain BoB/Xelas claim only MN5 and sometimes YZ-LQL all other systems are either Dominated by other entities or are used only occasionally
Please also mark Delve as a war zone VC fly here regular killing BoB ISS Blood Dudes Etc.
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Cpt Pugwash
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Posted - 2005.09.08 00:50:00 -
[607]
You might also want to remove VC from Stain as we haven't been operating there in any numbers for some time.
I am sure we will return sometime but for now we have other fish to fry.
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TWD
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Posted - 2005.09.08 00:58:00 -
[608]
I quote Coug from VC (1 week ago):
Originally by: Coug
We might not be strong enough or organized enough to make Fountain our home as of yet, but that's fine. Unlike the FA of old, we understand our limits and understand how to adapt to change. We enjoy the guerilla attacks and lifestyle infinately better than fleet fights as they are in this day in age.
That is exactly what it comes down to - little warskull fits that nicely instead of being contested. |

Cpt Pugwash
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Posted - 2005.09.08 01:06:00 -
[609]
Originally by: TWD I quote Coug from VC (1 week ago):
Originally by: Coug
We might not be strong enough or organized enough to make Fountain our home as of yet, but that's fine. Unlike the FA of old, we understand our limits and understand how to adapt to change. We enjoy the guerilla attacks and lifestyle infinately better than fleet fights as they are in this day in age.
That is exactly what it comes down to - little warskull fits that nicely instead of being contested.
But VC are not the only group operating in Fountain. FYI DK4-3WE is also a part of Fountain and is controlled by ELA and friends, I never see any Xelas or BOB in WY-9LL, A1-CON is a mix of the FA corps living there and Xelas trying to pass through to their POS in TU without getting ganked. FA also have a presance in Chimera and just north of Core. Imperium make regular incursions into Core and force Bob/Xelas to Dock for long periods.
Whilst VC alone are not enough to contest the region all these hostiles together mean Bob is far from in control of the Fountain region
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Tholarim
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Posted - 2005.09.08 01:18:00 -
[610]
Originally by: pershphanie
Originally by: Amthrianius Venal is a warzone, ATUK and Black reign live in H-PA uncontestedly and have a large pos up here to demonstrate this. Minimal PA presence if im honest and the little groups they get are not much of a problem as they are ineffective :)
question... if you live up in hpa uncontested what happend to the first pos you put up there?
Yep, our small pos with 1 gun attracted a 150 person blob to come kill it. We all had a good laugh about it, and then setup the pos we were actually planning on putting up not 12 hours later.
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Kelgen Thann
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Posted - 2005.09.08 05:34:00 -
[611]
As might have been stated, the Whole of Stain Space is all contested, Stain Alliance vs. Stain Empire. the fighting goes from up by Catch right through to Paragon Soul.
It is completely contested no Side has claim to any area at the moment
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DB Preacher
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Posted - 2005.09.08 06:52:00 -
[612]
Originally by: Cpt Pugwash
Originally by: TWD I quote Coug from VC (1 week ago):
Originally by: Coug
We might not be strong enough or organized enough to make Fountain our home as of yet, but that's fine. Unlike the FA of old, we understand our limits and understand how to adapt to change. We enjoy the guerilla attacks and lifestyle infinately better than fleet fights as they are in this day in age.
That is exactly what it comes down to - little warskull fits that nicely instead of being contested.
But VC are not the only group operating in Fountain. FYI DK4-3WE is also a part of Fountain and is controlled by ELA and friends, I never see any Xelas or BOB in WY-9LL, A1-CON is a mix of the FA corps living there and Xelas trying to pass through to their POS in TU without getting ganked. FA also have a presance in Chimera and just north of Core. Imperium make regular incursions into Core and force Bob/Xelas to Dock for long periods.
Whilst VC alone are not enough to contest the region all these hostiles together mean Bob is far from in control of the Fountain region
Yes, it's a warzone. That's exactly what you described. No-one is contesting the region from us.
If you want to contest the region then say it clearly pugwash. A simple "we are contesting the region post".
dbp
Current RKK Ranking: (CAL5) Second Lieutenant
Drop by and say hi in Reikoku Forums.
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Trooper B99
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Posted - 2005.09.08 09:34:00 -
[613]
Originally by: CdCommander ASCN hold Omist.......... for now anyways
Cd, holding is one thing, it's not claiming it territorially. After all, Cyvok said in his first press release on 2005.09.07 02:34:00 that
Originally by: CYVOK We ARE NOT claming OMIST
Mind you saying that, in the last paragraph we have
Quote: Stay out of ASCN space (to include Ominst)
Josh,. might be worth speaking directly to Cyvok and Trigger etc to get the whole omist question sorted as the forums seem to contradict each other a bit. 
Wirykomi Team Racer - COLOSSUS Championships Year 106
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pshepherd
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Posted - 2005.09.08 10:35:00 -
[614]
Stain Alliance is in complete control of paragon soul btw,
not sure about Estonia or Stain though.
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Mafdet
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Posted - 2005.09.08 12:52:00 -
[615]
Originally by: pshepherd Stain Alliance is in complete control of paragon soul btw,
not sure about Estonia or Stain though.
Surely you mean STAIN ALLAINCE?
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Arud
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Posted - 2005.09.08 15:55:00 -
[616]
Originally by: Mafdet
Originally by: pshepherd Stain Alliance is in complete control of paragon soul btw,
not sure about Estonia or Stain though.
Surely you mean STAIN ALLAINCE?

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pshepherd
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Posted - 2005.09.08 19:14:00 -
[617]
i'm really hoping it gets changed tbh, the spelling mistake and the overuse of caps are making all my posts look moronic.
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Doctor Shady
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Posted - 2005.09.08 21:23:00 -
[618]
bz-0gw is now under SA control, the station that is
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Joshua Foiritain
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Posted - 2005.09.08 22:15:00 -
[619]
Originally by: pshepherd i'm really hoping it gets changed tbh, the spelling mistake and the overuse of caps are making all my posts look moronic.
I hope they leave it this way tbh, it makes browsing the forums so much more fun  ------------------
[Coreli Corporation Mainframe] |

ChefAce
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Posted - 2005.09.09 11:34:00 -
[620]
Originally by: DoctorGonzo
We might have to ask for the Outer Ring to be uncontested too as there is just no contest atm, IMP are putting up less of a fight than FA did.
I would have to disagree.
Camping ONE system in a whole region does not make it a contested region. That would be like saying that the occasional gate campers in PF-346 are contesting all of Syndicate. Not likely.
Outer Ring still belongs to Imperium. It always will.
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Thun
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Posted - 2005.09.09 13:30:00 -
[621]
I have a question about the listing of the older versions. Are they listed from most current (old) to oldest? Sorry if I'm missing the obvious. I just want clarification.
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Kaell Meynn
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Posted - 2005.09.09 19:26:00 -
[622]
ASCN holds Omist (perhaps mark as contested, though it's not really contested by any force). MASS doesn't hold any space AFAIK because they are members of SA now, who I think hold Paragon Soul. I'd just mark all of SE space as contested, and either set Omist as ASCN protectorate, or mark as contested.
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Aeryn Sun
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Posted - 2005.09.10 07:00:00 -
[623]
Omist is contested politically.
Stain Alliance has Stain, Esoteria, Paragon Sol, and Catch.
/aeryn
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Emilia White
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Posted - 2005.09.10 07:09:00 -
[624]
Originally by: Aeryn Sun Omist is contested politically.
Stain Alliance has Stain, Esoteria, Paragon Sol, and Catch.
/aeryn
u don't have catch
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Cujo
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Posted - 2005.09.10 07:16:00 -
[625]
Stain Empire has Stain and Catch. Esoteria and Paragon is currenty contested. ------------------------------
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pshepherd
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Posted - 2005.09.10 09:56:00 -
[626]
Edited by: pshepherd on 10/09/2005 09:56:03 Paragon can't be contested if i've been here for a week without being shot. (after joining SA)
Theres the odd SE, but they refuse to fire on any SA pilots, and thus we don't fire on them.
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Kipkruide
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Posted - 2005.09.10 10:44:00 -
[627]
as of last night all stations in esoteria are under SA control,
paragon soul has been under sa control from the moment we joined obviously.
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Angelus X
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Posted - 2005.09.10 15:34:00 -
[628]
Originally by: Aeryn Sun Omist is contested politically.
Excuse my noobieness, but what does contested politically mean? 
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pershphanie
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Posted - 2005.09.10 17:59:00 -
[629]
Edited by: pershphanie on 10/09/2005 17:59:07
Originally by: pshepherd
Theres the odd SE, but they refuse to fire on any SA pilots, and thus we don't fire on them.
wow. Sounds like the lamest war ever. Maybe the map should put a little mining laser symbol of the region instead of a warzone marker? |

pshepherd
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Posted - 2005.09.10 22:26:00 -
[630]
Originally by: Angelus X
Originally by: Aeryn Sun Omist is contested politically.
Excuse my noobieness, but what does contested politically mean? 
means noone's sure who owns it, and noones fighting.
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QwaarJet
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Posted - 2005.09.11 10:12:00 -
[631]
Any chance of an update Joshua? "Hobbes, she stepped into the Perimter Of Wisdom.Run!" |

Wendat Huron
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Posted - 2005.09.11 11:07:00 -
[632]
Surely there must be some changes pending.
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Joshua Foiritain
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Posted - 2005.09.11 16:22:00 -
[633]
Changes indeed are pending, so is corp and real life stuff atmish though 
Prolly tommorow or tuesday. ------------------
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TFU 2
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Posted - 2005.09.11 18:58:00 -
[634]
Edited by: TFU 2 on 11/09/2005 18:58:49 Just some alterations to syndicate
Polish Task Forces [PTF] claim y9g-ks PTF are 3rd front Therefore 3rd front must claim Y9G-KS
Currently 3rd Front space (Y9G-KS) is being invaded by Armoured Assassins[ASS] and Freeks[FREEKS] Corp. These two corps as rightful home so this area is now contested space.
See diagram Tactical Info
We will free the mystical cookie factory contained in depths of Y9G-KS
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pshepherd
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Posted - 2005.09.11 21:19:00 -
[635]
Originally by: pershphanie Edited by: pershphanie on 10/09/2005 17:59:07
Originally by: pshepherd
Theres the odd SE, but they refuse to fire on any SA pilots, and thus we don't fire on them.
wow. Sounds like the lamest war ever. Maybe the map should put a little mining laser symbol of the region instead of a warzone marker?
i like that idea. But Stain Alliance has just declared war on Stain Empire, so who knows, it might change.
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Roxanna Kell
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Posted - 2005.09.11 22:51:00 -
[636]
Originally by: Joshua Foiritain Edited by: Joshua Foiritain on 03/09/2005 00:38:31
Latest Version: Latest Pending Changes: None.
Older Versions: 03.09.107, 22.08.107, 16.08.107, 12.08.107, 08.08.107, 27.07.107, 25.07.107, 22.07.107, 20.07.107, 19.07.107, 14.07.107, 07.07.107.
I would also like to make a list of contacts within each of the alliances, so either leave the contacts for your alliance in this topic or evemail them to me as soon as possible.
dont u think its about time u update ur map properly.
se doesn t have that space any more
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Roxanna Kell
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Posted - 2005.09.11 22:54:00 -
[637]
Edited by: Roxanna Kell on 11/09/2005 22:54:35
Originally by: Cujo Stain Empire has Stain and Catch. Esoteria and Paragon is currenty contested.
you are the ****iest person i ever meet cujo, in fact i still havnt meet you, and good i wouldnt want to, i eman why the hell do u lie so much,
u know what u own all the regions, here is a lolly got nock ur self out.
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Vishnej
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Posted - 2005.09.11 23:42:00 -
[638]
I believe that Vale should be marked contested, as reflected by the ingame map.
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Wicke
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Posted - 2005.09.12 01:58:00 -
[639]
Originally by: TFU 2 Edited by: TFU 2 on 11/09/2005 19:13:43 Edited by: TFU 2 on 11/09/2005 18:58:49 Just some alterations to syndicate
Polish Task Forces [PTF] claim y9g-ks PTF are 3rd front Therefore 3rd front must claim Y9G-KS
Currently 3rd Front space (Y9G-KS) is being invaded by Armoured Assassins[ASS] and Freeks[FREEKS] Corp. These two corps claim it as their rightful home therfore this area is now contested space.
See diagram Tactical Info
We will free the mystical cookie factory contained in depths of Y9G-KS
Well done -ASS-. That was quick.
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pershphanie
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Posted - 2005.09.12 02:23:00 -
[640]
The forsaken empire has taken the station in jvz-f4. Vale is now contested between The forsaken empire and smash. |
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Ichabod Crane
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Posted - 2005.09.12 09:40:00 -
[641]
Originally by: TFU 2 Edited by: TFU 2 on 11/09/2005 19:13:43 Edited by: TFU 2 on 11/09/2005 18:58:49 Just some alterations to syndicate
Polish Task Forces [PTF] claim y9g-ks PTF are 3rd front Therefore 3rd front must claim Y9G-KS
Currently 3rd Front space (Y9G-KS) is being invaded by Armoured Assassins[ASS] and Freeks[FREEKS] Corp. These two corps claim it as their rightful home therfore this area is now contested space.
See diagram Tactical Info
We will free the mystical cookie factory contained in depths of Y9G-KS
Regardless of what you or PTF may think, 3rd Front does not claim Y9G, but by all means, feel free to fight amongst yourselves for the crokite
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MickeyFinn
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Posted - 2005.09.12 10:28:00 -
[642]
Originally by: Ichabod Crane
Originally by: TFU 2 Edited by: TFU 2 on 11/09/2005 19:13:43 Edited by: TFU 2 on 11/09/2005 18:58:49 Just some alterations to syndicate
Polish Task Forces [PTF] claim y9g-ks PTF are 3rd front Therefore 3rd front must claim Y9G-KS
Currently 3rd Front space (Y9G-KS) is being invaded by Armoured Assassins[ASS] and Freeks[FREEKS] Corp. These two corps claim it as their rightful home therfore this area is now contested space.
See diagram Tactical Info
We will free the mystical cookie factory contained in depths of Y9G-KS
Regardless of what you or PTF may think, 3rd Front does not claim Y9G, but by all means, feel free to fight amongst yourselves for the crokite
Ahh well thats all sorted then. ASS and FREEKS claim Y9 as home.....oh wait, what about the cans around the surrounding systems that claim ownership by 3rd Front?? Oh never mind, i must have imagined them.
The Artist Formely Known As Wishdokkta
Website of certain doom! |

Kyogen Steiner
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Posted - 2005.09.12 15:48:00 -
[643]
Originally by: pershphanie Edited by: pershphanie on 10/09/2005 17:59:07
Originally by: pshepherd
Theres the odd SE, but they refuse to fire on any SA pilots, and thus we don't fire on them.
wow. Sounds like the lamest war ever. Maybe the map should put a little mining laser symbol of the region instead of a warzone marker?
Thats comment actually made my day.
Thx  ------------------------------------------------
We are the bringers of hatred! |

Wraithstorm
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Posted - 2005.09.13 00:41:00 -
[644]
FIX requests that CATCH is updated to reflect uncontested FIX territory. FIX holds 2 stations as well as Soverignty. (Pardon spelling.) FIX maintains the Travel Corridors open for free travel, and claims its borders at HY-RWO as well as the backdoor system VTGN-U
Thank you Muchly
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Nya
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Posted - 2005.09.13 10:09:00 -
[645]
Originally by: Ichabod Crane
Originally by: TFU 2 Edited by: TFU 2 on 11/09/2005 19:13:43 Edited by: TFU 2 on 11/09/2005 18:58:49 Just some alterations to syndicate
Polish Task Forces [PTF] claim y9g-ks PTF are 3rd front Therefore 3rd front must claim Y9G-KS
Currently 3rd Front space (Y9G-KS) is being invaded by Armoured Assassins[ASS] and Freeks[FREEKS] Corp. These two corps claim it as their rightful home therfore this area is now contested space.
See diagram Tactical Info
We will free the mystical cookie factory contained in depths of Y9G-KS
Regardless of what you or PTF may think, 3rd Front does not claim Y9G, but by all means, feel free to fight amongst yourselves for the crokite
Screw the crokite, we want powah ! Powah to the cookies ya hear !
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Seleene
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Posted - 2005.09.13 13:48:00 -
[646]
Edited by: Seleene on 13/09/2005 13:51:37
I have a question for JF, and the following statement marks the perfect opportunity to ask it:
Originally by: Cpt Pugwash Please also mark Delve as a war zone VC fly here regular killing BoB ISS Blood Dudes Etc.
To me a "war zone" is when you have two dedicated, large and aggressive factions beating the crap out of each other on a regular basis. I'm talking about a war. CA and SA was a war. BoB / the galaxy vs. PA was a war and so on and so forth...
Due to a current agreement with BoB, parts of the MC are sun bathing and playing volleyball on our self-imposed vacation down in the Delve area. I am personally online down there every night and at least a dozen of my corp mates and close to fifty other MC'ers have also rented condos in the area to take part in the local attractions. You know what's nice about Delve?
It's quiet. Every now and then a group of people pass through to say hi, but I could probably park my ship outside the station in NOL and go AFK for three or four hours with not many worries. My point?
Not a "war zone".
This is not a dig at Cpt Pugwash, but by the logic of your above statement every time the MC declared war on a 0.0 alliance, they should mark their territory as a war zone. We send HAC / AF squads, even BS sometimes, into claimed space all the time but in no way can those kind of tactical raids be thought to turn the area into a "war zone". Now, if we moved 40 or 50 BS into the area, set up a POS and started going out every night blowing the crap out of everything.... that's a war zone! 
Now, all of the above is just my opinion. Flame me if you please and JF can run his map however he wishes. I just wanted to put my .02 ISK forward.
Cheers!  -
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Kyle Caldrel
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Posted - 2005.09.13 14:43:00 -
[647]
im not friendly with bob but i also pass thru delve often. I have seen a total of 2 VC gank crews roll thru there in a month. That is it. No great contestation or anything.
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Joshua Foiritain
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Posted - 2005.09.13 15:25:00 -
[648]
Map Updated, 2 Changes are still pending but i wont have time for those today.
To the [ASS] person; Im afraid im not going to mark a single system claim on the map as its faaaarrr to tiny to actually be markable and before we know it everyone will be wanting their 1 system claim on the map, which is bad 
Another update tommorow. ------------------
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Cloned Mark
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Posted - 2005.09.13 16:46:00 -
[649]
Have you even been to Cache recently Josh? -----------------------------
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Xavier Zyrae
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Posted - 2005.09.13 16:46:00 -
[650]
Nice map Josh, but how about visiting Cache? You'll find [5] holds all 3 PCS there (and has done for the last week or so), and also claims sov in those 3 systems. That should at the very least make cache 'contested', if not [5] claimed.
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super4lt
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Posted - 2005.09.13 16:48:00 -
[651]
super4lt would advice Josh not to quit his day job
Super4lt is here to let yall know what time it is
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Avalon Beholder
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Posted - 2005.09.13 16:56:00 -
[652]
Josh, in your latest update you have changed Cache from Contested to Pure RA controlled, when .5. have held all 3 stations for at least a week now, and the 995 one for a lot longer.
Its still contested, just about, as RA still occasionally pop a small POS of ours.
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Proconsul Para
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Posted - 2005.09.13 17:01:00 -
[653]
Nice work Josh, but making Cache a RA region, you have insulted The Five. 995, M53 and P7- stations belong to us. RA still has sovereignity over a few backwater systems, but we're in the process of eradicating those POSes.
RA activity in the area is limited to ganking the lone BS and sneaking in fuel for their remaining POSes.
Shield Inversion works best at lighting cigarettes in windy weather.
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The Enslaver
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Posted - 2005.09.13 17:05:00 -
[654]
We only control all cache stations, etc.
Uhuh, you should really check this out Josh... And release a new map.  --------
FireFoxx80: If you think you can do a better job, go find yourself a datacentre to host a box, get a copy of Visual Studio, and STFU. |

Drakos
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Posted - 2005.09.13 17:20:00 -
[655]
oooops on the cache thingy :) --------
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Cloned Mark
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Posted - 2005.09.13 17:33:00 -
[656]
Also remove the war tag on Great Wildlands. A single small corp proclaiming to be part of an alliance that died ages ago doesn't deserve a tag, especially when they are no where to be seen in the region.
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Shredder
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Posted - 2005.09.13 17:45:00 -
[657]
honestly i dont know where you're getting your info on the [5] area from, but it needs double checking, as stated above we own all those stations which are in 'RA' space, in both cache and great wildlands, change it please 
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Slaveabuser
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Posted - 2005.09.13 17:57:00 -
[658]
Josh......
"youre fired"
Nothing personal |

siim
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Posted - 2005.09.13 18:06:00 -
[659]
Having catch without Contested and belongs to RA is just wrong 
Could of atleast do with a contested status. Since we own all the stations there and i think thats a reason enough for it 
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Zagum Darkfin
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Posted - 2005.09.13 18:26:00 -
[660]
Venal is a War Zone for the last 2 weeks. Atuk/Reign vs PA + friends.
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Kantar
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Posted - 2005.09.13 18:38:00 -
[661]
Stain is SA now not contested territory.
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Nebba Kenezzer
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Posted - 2005.09.13 18:43:00 -
[662]
It's probably just a misunderstanding.
No need to beat up on Josh; he does a great job.
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Melonie
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Posted - 2005.09.13 18:54:00 -
[663]
Edited by: Melonie on 13/09/2005 18:58:41 New elections are needed to select a map maker who has the resolve to update the maps in a timely fashion.
Edit: Didn't mean to post with alt - Saladin - VIRII
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QwaarJet
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Posted - 2005.09.13 19:29:00 -
[664]
Where's Nexus Union, Josh? We should have a small slice of the Pure Blind pie. "Hobbes, she stepped into the Perimter Of Wisdom.Run!" |

pshepherd
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Posted - 2005.09.13 19:32:00 -
[665]
Originally by: Melonie
New elections are needed to select a map maker who has the resolve to update the maps in a timely fashion.
If you can do a better job, make your own map. If it is more popular than this then it'll replace it. Simple enough? 
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The Enslaver
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Posted - 2005.09.13 19:50:00 -
[666]
Originally by: Wraithstorm Edited by: Wraithstorm on 13/09/2005 00:52:11
FIX requests that CATCH is updated to reflect uncontested FIX territory. FIX holds 2 stations as well as Soverignty. (Pardon spelling.) FIX Honors the Travel Corridors ( HED-GP- UQ-) open for free travel, and claims its borders at HY-RWO as well as the backdoor system VTGN-U
Thank you Muchly
So basically, you only claim part of catch; the part that used to be claimed by SE.
Right? --------
FireFoxx80: If you think you can do a better job, go find yourself a datacentre to host a box, get a copy of Visual Studio, and STFU. |

Wraithstorm
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Posted - 2005.09.13 19:58:00 -
[667]
That is Correct. An Official announcement regarding exactly how FIX will treat this space is upcoming. Is there something missing from my original post?
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Carth Jared
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Posted - 2005.09.13 19:59:00 -
[668]
The guy does more updates and seems like he puts more work in makin it accurat than most mapmakers has. So can we stop some of this "omg we need a new mapmaker" bs plz?
Jeez :/
ATUK | The 5
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Joshua Foiritain
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Posted - 2005.09.13 20:34:00 -
[669]
Originally by: QwaarJet Where's Nexus Union, Josh? We should have a small slice of the Pure Blind pie.
Check my post.
As for the rest; Blame CCP. My map showed RA in control of cache. Ill updatezor the map tommorow. ------------------
[Coreli Corporation Mainframe] |

Amataras
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Posted - 2005.09.13 20:44:00 -
[670]
Edited by: Amataras on 13/09/2005 20:44:22 Fix owns Catch, and ASCN own Omist now I believe. -------------- The Eve Diplomacy Table |
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QwaarJet
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Posted - 2005.09.13 21:12:00 -
[671]
I checked the post, but what part are you referring too? Tomorrow's update or the too small part?
Considering we have 3 systems in close proximity to each other, we should probably still get on the map. "Hobbes, she stepped into the Perimter Of Wisdom.Run!" |

The Enslaver
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Posted - 2005.09.13 21:59:00 -
[672]
Originally by: Amataras Edited by: Amataras on 13/09/2005 20:44:22 Fix owns Catch, and ASCN own Omist now I believe.
FIX does not own nor claim Catch. FIX claims the small part of Catch that contains the three conquerable stations.
The routes between HED, U-Q and the systems between U-Q and DSS are not claimed by FIX, nor those areas of catch, nor any of northern catch. --------
FireFoxx80: If you think you can do a better job, go find yourself a datacentre to host a box, get a copy of Visual Studio, and STFU. |

Dianabolic
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Posted - 2005.09.13 22:27:00 -
[673]
Originally by: Melonie Edited by: Melonie on 13/09/2005 18:58:41 New elections are needed to select a map maker who has the resolve to update the maps in a timely fashion.
Edit: Didn't mean to post with alt - Saladin - VIRII
Completely and utterly disagree with this utter tosh of a post.
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Wraithstorm
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Posted - 2005.09.14 00:02:00 -
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Apologies for the poor choice of words in my orignal post. As you could imagine my Geography of a new area of space is still shaky. ( Thats what happens when you live like a sardine eh, lol) Anyways, allow me to ellaborate.
FIX claims the following in CATCH -
HY-RWO back to 4-07 MY-W1Z back to 4-07
FIX does not claim any part of The Corridor. DSS- HED-GP remains free space, as it was before. The borders outlined make it to where noone needs to enter these systems for anything. Just a small extention with no backdoors to slip through. Noone should make a "wrong turn" etc. You know how that goes.
Entities wishing to still have use of the travel pipe. Now if your KOS with FIX, I wont even attempt to tell you you'll be safe in there. I hope this clarifies things, and if it doesnt you are welcome to EVE-mail/convo me or any FIX JCoS (Joint Chief of Staff) ingame to talk about it
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DrunkenOne
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Posted - 2005.09.14 00:30:00 -
[675]
Originally by: Carth Jared The guy does more updates and seems like he puts more work in makin it accurat than most mapmakers has. So can we stop some of this "omg we need a new mapmaker" bs plz?
Jeez :/
Totally agree. JF 4tw.
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Aman Sul
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Posted - 2005.09.14 03:23:00 -
[676]
Originally by: Dianabolic
Originally by: Melonie Edited by: Melonie on 13/09/2005 18:58:41 New elections are needed to select a map maker who has the resolve to update the maps in a timely fashion.
Edit: Didn't mean to post with alt - Saladin - VIRII
Completely and utterly disagree with this utter tosh of a post.
I completly agree with your disagreement
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Avernus
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Posted - 2005.09.14 03:51:00 -
[677]
Looking at the map history, I see 10 days as being about the longest we've had to wait for an update..... if 10 days isn't often enough for you, you need an extra hobby.
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Avalon Beholder
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Posted - 2005.09.14 05:59:00 -
[678]
Originally by: Wraithstorm Apologies for the poor choice of words in my orignal post. As you could imagine my Geography of a new area of space is still shaky. ( Thats what happens when you live like a sardine eh, lol) Anyways, allow me to ellaborate.
FIX claims the following in CATCH -
HY-RWO back to 4-07 MY-W1Z back to 4-07
FIX does not claim any part of The Corridor. DSS- HED-GP remains free space, as it was before. The borders outlined make it to where noone needs to enter these systems for anything. Just a small extention with no backdoors to slip through. Noone should make a "wrong turn" etc. You know how that goes.
Entities wishing to still have use of the travel pipe. Now if your KOS with FIX, I wont even attempt to tell you you'll be safe in there. I hope this clarifies things, and if it doesnt you are welcome to EVE-mail/convo me or any FIX JCoS (Joint Chief of Staff) ingame to talk about it
Your lucky you clarified that :P
HED is the graveyard of a half dozen alliances
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Wraithstorm
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Posted - 2005.09.14 06:21:00 -
[679]
Originally by: Avalon Beholder
Originally by: Wraithstorm Apologies for the poor choice of words in my orignal post. As you could imagine my Geography of a new area of space is still shaky. ( Thats what happens when you live like a sardine eh, lol) Anyways, allow me to ellaborate.
FIX claims the following in CATCH -
HY-RWO back to 4-07 MY-W1Z back to 4-07
FIX does not claim any part of The Corridor. DSS- HED-GP remains free space, as it was before. The borders outlined make it to where noone needs to enter these systems for anything. Just a small extention with no backdoors to slip through. Noone should make a "wrong turn" etc. You know how that goes.
Entities wishing to still have use of the travel pipe. Now if your KOS with FIX, I wont even attempt to tell you you'll be safe in there. I hope this clarifies things, and if it doesnt you are welcome to EVE-mail/convo me or any FIX JCoS (Joint Chief of Staff) ingame to talk about it
Your lucky you clarified that :P
HED is the graveyard of a half dozen alliances
Lol, well in all honesty, it could prove a fun playground as Im sure it does for many, but other then that its of no importance to us. Ive heard the horror stories of HED.
/emote shivers
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pershphanie
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Posted - 2005.09.14 06:25:00 -
[680]
Originally by: Avernus Looking at the map history, I see 10 days as being about the longest we've had to wait for an update..... if 10 days isn't often enough for you, you need an extra hobby.
Yeah I agree. Best map maker ever. Very quick updates. No map maker can ever make everyone happy. Best they can do is provide quick updates. That gets done. |
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Loka
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Posted - 2005.09.14 07:12:00 -
[681]
Originally by: Kantar Stain is SA now not contested territory.
hehe lol, nice try  _________________________ Dead or Alive
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Treebeard dk
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Posted - 2005.09.14 08:43:00 -
[682]
Can we please make GW a non-contested area, I posted before about this, its not been contested for over 2 months, V alliance have full control of that area.
Also, RA have no control over cache, the 5 owns all the stations and have close to full control about 20 hours a day in the region so region should be contested at least. ------
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Nork
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Posted - 2005.09.14 09:45:00 -
[683]
Edited by: Nork on 14/09/2005 09:45:19
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HeadHunta II
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Posted - 2005.09.14 09:48:00 -
[684]
For the GW: GW isnt contested anymore, simple because Foundation gave up resistance and admitted defeat. There are a few of them still arround in N-D - JUKO area. V is aware of it but dont consider them as a real thread, since they show no intentions to attack us and dont have the numbers to try it. They are atm still KOS but negotiations with Lokesh about allowing those to stay in that area or not are running.
The system N-Rael should be marked as dangerous area, since this is a chokepoint between V, RA and 5. Every neutral using this or other entry systems to GW will be considered as hostile. "-V- Vice President" "-V- Minister of Foreign affairs" "CEO Ascendancy-Inc."
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pshepherd
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Posted - 2005.09.14 11:07:00 -
[685]
Originally by: Loka
To the mapmaker. Could you pls change the colors for Stain-Alliance. Its almost the same as for FIX. It is confuseing most ppl iam pretty sure ;), not only the one colorblind hehe.
Something more drastical would be cool. Probably black :P just kidding, but green would suit perfect as contrast. Or orange or something going into purple
Pink, it has to be bright pink.
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Omeega
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Posted - 2005.09.14 12:06:00 -
[686]
Originally by: HeadHunta II
The system N-Rael should be marked as dangerous area, since this is a chokepoint between V, RA and 5. Every neutral using this or other entry systems to GW will be considered as hostile.
/signed.
Don't speak english. F1,f2,f3...
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Blackest Sheep
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Posted - 2005.09.14 14:18:00 -
[687]
Originally by: pshepherd
Pink, it has to be bright pink.
Nah, that would annoy Woodlouse to no end. [G] pink power and all that... 
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QwaarJet
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Posted - 2005.09.14 14:48:00 -
[688]
"Looking at the map history, I see 10 days as being about the longest we've had to wait for an update..... if 10 days isn't often enough for you, you need an extra hobby."
I don't think that's your business to judge if people need a new hobby or not.10 days is a heck of a lot of time in EVE, and things change.People need their info. "Hobbes, she stepped into the Perimter Of Wisdom.Run!" |

Joshua Foiritain
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Posted - 2005.09.14 14:55:00 -
[689]
GW hasnt been a contested region on the map for quite some time...
Fix is Green/Limesh where SA is Yellow, they dont really look the same at all to me.  Plus both FIX and SA space have their own labels attached to them.
Map updated, my ingame map updated too.
@the nexus guy, as my post said; I didnt have time to add Nexus and to update Frege last night so it was on todays to-do list. 
@Saladin; Go away. ------------------
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pardux
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Posted - 2005.09.14 15:48:00 -
[690]
Originally by: Joshua Foiritain
Fix is Green/Limesh where SA is Yellow, they dont really look the same at all to me.  Plus both FIX and SA space have their own labels attached to them.
:/ look the same make SA pink :]
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Darko1107
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Posted - 2005.09.14 18:29:00 -
[691]
Edited by: Darko1107 on 14/09/2005 18:29:04 Just make everyone the same coulours as in game.
Iron = PINK
Good job josh! Your maps have been the best i have seen so far.
(Remember josh doesnt get payed or anything.)
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General Killah
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Posted - 2005.09.14 20:50:00 -
[692]
Sorry guys, when it came down to it, SMASH got the pink(check last map version).
Oh yeah... ---------------------------------
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Proconsul Para
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Posted - 2005.09.14 21:23:00 -
[693]
Poll:
When we oust them RA off our space, The Five teritorry will look like:
A) A Guitar B) A Pear

Shield Inversion works best at lighting cigarettes in windy weather.
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Kyle Caldrel
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Posted - 2005.09.14 23:51:00 -
[694]
Josh has been doing a great job with the map, even if his changes arnt instant, they shouldent be. Map should reflect longterm stayingpower, not here one day, gone the next.
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Avernus
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Posted - 2005.09.15 05:20:00 -
[695]
Originally by: QwaarJet "Looking at the map history, I see 10 days as being about the longest we've had to wait for an update..... if 10 days isn't often enough for you, you need an extra hobby."
I don't think that's your business to judge if people need a new hobby or not.10 days is a heck of a lot of time in EVE, and things change.People need their info.
I think your missing the point; 'get a hobby' is an expression. The point is, JF likely has a life other than Eve, I'm pretty sure of it. Its an unreal expectation on his time to have him doing an update every few days; Imo, getting an update out once every 10 days is pretty exceptional from what I have seen.
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Tansien
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Posted - 2005.09.15 09:05:00 -
[696]
Also this is not a super-exact map, theres an ingame map if you need more information :S
Cant expect the mapmaker to change the map every time a POS gets destroyed or a conq station gets captured...
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DB Preacher
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Posted - 2005.09.15 10:02:00 -
[697]
Edited by: DB Preacher on 15/09/2005 10:02:44
Quote: Patience is the greatest of all virtues. Cato the Elder (234 BC - 149 BC)
The mapmaker is doing an awesome job, along with the constant moderation of the thread and the general acceptance by the eve community to follow the rules of the thread, this thread currently works very well.
Josh does not, imo, need to speed up the updates because everyone can see what updates people have reported in the actual thread. By checking the current map and reading the posts that are in the thread you will have as accurate a picture of the eve political situation as you can get.
Keep up the good work, Josh. thx, dbp
Current RKK Ranking: (CAL5) Second Lieutenant
Drop by and say hi in Reikoku Forums.
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CEO Rockhound
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Posted - 2005.09.15 11:46:00 -
[698]
Dear Mapmakers :
ASCN should not be shown as 'owners' of Omist. This does not reflect the official ASCN anouncements on this board, as they are only 'holding' it untill the SE / SA conflict is solved.
With the current markings, it will look to the rest of the world like ASCN are looseing a region once the map is upgraded, and that could be a source of confusion.
I whould like to ask kindly that Omist are marked as 'unavailable to all'. or 'blocked space'.
Norsk Gruvedrift. We will rock you. |

elorran
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Posted - 2005.09.15 12:39:00 -
[699]
Originally by: QwaarJet "Looking at the map history, I see 10 days as being about the longest we've had to wait for an update..... if 10 days isn't often enough for you, you need an extra hobby."
I don't think that's your business to judge if people need a new hobby or not.10 days is a heck of a lot of time in EVE, and things change.People need their info.
Chill. These things get done when people get around to them. It's not like we own half the universe anyway 
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Joshua Foiritain
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Posted - 2005.09.15 12:44:00 -
[700]
Originally by: CEO Rockhound Dear Mapmakers :
ASCN should not be shown as 'owners' of Omist. This does not reflect the official ASCN anouncements on this board, as they are only 'holding' it untill the SE / SA conflict is solved.
I whould like to ask kindly that Omist are marked as 'unavailable to all'. or 'blocked space'.
Whether theyre gonna give it away in the future or not doesnt matter all that much ASCN claims it here and now and quite possibly for quite some time. Marking it as blocked or unavailable would most likely cause more confusion as people wouldnt understand why it is blocked. In the current form they can easily see ASCN will podkill anyone that enters their space illegaly. (Atleast i think they will, most alliances do these days) ------------------
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Ithildin
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Posted - 2005.09.15 17:03:00 -
[701]
Originally by: Joshua Foiritain
Originally by: CEO Rockhound Dear Mapmakers :
ASCN should not be shown as 'owners' of Omist. This does not reflect the official ASCN anouncements on this board, as they are only 'holding' it untill the SE / SA conflict is solved.
I whould like to ask kindly that Omist are marked as 'unavailable to all'. or 'blocked space'.
Whether theyre gonna give it away in the future or not doesnt matter all that much ASCN claims it here and now and quite possibly for quite some time. Marking it as blocked or unavailable would most likely cause more confusion as people wouldnt understand why it is blocked. In the current form they can easily see ASCN will podkill anyone that enters their space illegaly. (Atleast i think they will, most alliances do these days)
Or even better, why not mark it as ASCN's protectorate? Just add a little lable saying "Protectorate". Just a thought. --
I'm in to murder, arson, and pillaging. I differe from a soldier in nothing but name and allegience. |

Harisdrop
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Posted - 2005.09.15 17:38:00 -
[702]
Originally by: Zagum Darkfin Venal is a War Zone for the last 2 weeks. Atuk/Reign vs PA + friends.
Venal is a warzone not Branch! -------------------------- Does it matter why, its when is more crucial!
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Komolov
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Posted - 2005.09.15 17:47:00 -
[703]
Originally by: Treebeard dk Also, RA have no control over cache, <..> The Five have close to full control about 20 hours a day.
Really? 
.5. don't have anything even close to control over Cache when RA boys online. At this time .5. controls only one system in Cache - system where their blob's present. Sincerely yours, Dmitry V. Komolov FSP-B |

siim
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Posted - 2005.09.15 17:55:00 -
[704]
Originally by: Komolov
Originally by: Treebeard dk Also, RA have no control over cache, <..> The Five have close to full control about 20 hours a day.
Really? 
.5. don't have anything even close to control over Cache when RA boys online. At this time .5. controls only one system in Cache - system where their blob's present.
Sure thing Dima
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Duke Galadrien
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Posted - 2005.09.15 18:01:00 -
[705]
Originally by: Proconsul Para Poll:
When we oust them RA off our space, The Five teritorry will look like:
A) A Guitar B) A Pear

I was thinking more like C) A cuddly dog.
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Zarthanon
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Posted - 2005.09.16 07:15:00 -
[706]
Originally by: Duke Galadrien
Originally by: Proconsul Para Poll:
When we oust them RA off our space, The Five teritorry will look like:
A) A Guitar B) A Pear

I was thinking more like C) A cuddly dog.
Like this bundle of joy!!!
Originally by: ParMizaN i mayv or may nit abe a bit drunk
Originally by: Buddrow TO THETR DRUMNBS OF WAR WET GHO
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NAFnist
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Posted - 2005.09.16 11:07:00 -
[707]
Edited by: NAFnist on 16/09/2005 11:07:58 nm
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Hastrabull
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Posted - 2005.09.16 11:25:00 -
[708]
This thread is not for flaming! This thread is information only.
Move your forum wars away . ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
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Cloned Mark
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Posted - 2005.09.16 23:51:00 -
[709]
Edited by: Cloned Mark on 16/09/2005 23:51:47 Josh I think you have tickers 3) and 7) confused. RUS are contesting 6 regions on their own and although 3) is on the key, I cant see it anywhere on the map  -----------------------------
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DB Preacher
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Posted - 2005.09.17 09:08:00 -
[710]
Imp have abandoned Outer Ring, BoB are now in control.
They are down to minimal forces in the area therefore it should remain as a warzone.
Thx dbp
Current RKK Ranking: (CAL5) Second Lieutenant
Drop by and say hi in Reikoku Forums.
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ChefAce
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Posted - 2005.09.17 11:10:00 -
[711]
Edited by: ChefAce on 17/09/2005 11:13:39
Originally by: DB Preacher Imp have abandoned Outer Ring, BoB are now in control.
They are down to minimal forces in the area therefore it should remain as a warzone.
Thx dbp
You really need to squash that ego of yours.
Outer Ring still belongs to Imperium as the only place you're found most of the time is 4C-B7X.
Like I said previously, camping one system does not comprise of a whole region.
*edit*
If owning a POS in your enemies region constitues it as being a contested area, then I contest Delve.
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DB Preacher
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Posted - 2005.09.17 12:34:00 -
[712]
Edited by: DB Preacher on 17/09/2005 12:38:08 There is no ego. There is only facts.
Come take a look for yourself josh, Outer Ring is for the most part abandoned. That includes everything outside 4c- as well as the system we base from.
And please, do not turn this thread into a flamefest.
Thanks, dbp
Current RKK Ranking: (CAL5) Second Lieutenant
Drop by and say hi in Reikoku Forums.
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Nafri
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Posted - 2005.09.17 13:16:00 -
[713]
Originally by: DB Preacher Edited by: DB Preacher on 17/09/2005 12:38:08 There is no ego. There is only facts.
Come take a look for yourself josh, Outer Ring is for the most part abandoned. That includes everything outside 4c- as well as the system we base from.
And please, do not turn this thread into a flamefest.
Thanks, dbp
The situation is pretty much the same like 5 month ago 
Your bla bla hit bla bla for bla bla damage. Wanna have some bubu now? |

Christopher Multsanti
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Posted - 2005.09.17 13:51:00 -
[714]
Edited by: Christopher Multsanti on 17/09/2005 13:51:36 nm
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Nick Curso
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Posted - 2005.09.17 21:12:00 -
[715]
ASCN reconise our claim on Omist once again :)
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dj lightning
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Posted - 2005.09.18 01:05:00 -
[716]
plz add a war zone in great wildlands NBSI are attacking -v- atm thx. :)
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nitr0s
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Posted - 2005.09.18 13:26:00 -
[717]
Originally by: dj lightning plz add a war zone in great wildlands NBSI are attacking -v- atm thx. :)
Tired of getting owned at home already?
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Tomsudy
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Posted - 2005.09.18 13:44:00 -
[718]
Originally by: Joshua Foiritain Map Updated, 2 Changes are still pending but i wont have time for those today.
To the [ASS] person; Im afraid im not going to mark a single system claim on the map as its faaaarrr to tiny to actually be markable and before we know it everyone will be wanting their 1 system claim on the map, which is bad 
Another update tommorow.
I think you should add ASS/FREEKS vs Nap sol/ PTF warzone over the solitude region and y9g-ks
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Cartiff
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Posted - 2005.09.18 18:36:00 -
[719]
nitr0s, i don't know who you are, but there are nohostiles, or battles going on in tenal, its quiet.
Please changed GW to Contested, between NBSI and VI
Cartiff, CEO Euphoria Released NBSI 4TW
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dj lightning
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Posted - 2005.09.18 18:38:00 -
[720]
Originally by: nitr0s
Originally by: dj lightning plz add a war zone in great wildlands NBSI are attacking -v- atm thx. :)
Tired of getting owned at home already?
LOL @ nOOb http://nbsi.eve-killboard.net/ thats all i need to say.
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nitr0s
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Posted - 2005.09.18 18:52:00 -
[721]
Originally by: dj lightning
Originally by: nitr0s
Originally by: dj lightning plz add a war zone in great wildlands NBSI are attacking -v- atm thx. :)
Tired of getting owned at home already?
LOL @ nOOb http://nbsi.eve-killboard.net/ thats all i need to say.
All I need to say is:
Quote: Killmails The posting of killmails or use of killboard links will be considered as trolling or off-topic, and subject to removal or warning.
There will be no discussion allowed of privately run killboard issues/accuracies taking place in this forum. It has been proven that such discussions inevitably invite ill-spirited comments and off-topic issues. It is recommended that you contact the administrator of the private killboard wherein an error is perceived.
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Angelus X
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Posted - 2005.09.18 18:54:00 -
[722]
Originally by: dj lightning LOL @ nOOb http://nbsi.eve-killboard.net/ thats all i need to say.
Glad to see the no-smack policy still in force eh 
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Richard Dawkins
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Posted - 2005.09.18 19:21:00 -
[723]
Originally by: Angelus X
Originally by: dj lightning LOL @ nOOb http://nbsi.eve-killboard.net/ thats all i need to say.
Glad to see the no-smack policy still in force eh 
Yeah, because it's not like he was provoked or anything, right? 
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heyjoe52
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Posted - 2005.09.18 19:35:00 -
[724]
come on ppl this is not a flame thread. We contest V's claim to GW, we fight them daily and they fight us. So thusly we contest. End Statement.
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Admiral IceBlock
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Posted - 2005.09.18 20:13:00 -
[725]
Edited by: Admiral IceBlock on 18/09/2005 20:13:55 just becouse you got some people in -v- space doesnt mean its contested. please, get a grip...
"We brake for nobody"
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Nork
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Posted - 2005.09.18 20:53:00 -
[726]
Edited by: Nork on 18/09/2005 20:53:00 funny
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HeadHunta II
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Posted - 2005.09.18 20:54:00 -
[727]
Edited by: HeadHunta II on 18/09/2005 20:54:48
Originally by: Cartiff nitr0s, i don't know who you are, but there are nohostiles, or battles going on in tenal, its quiet.
Please changed GW to Contested, between NBSI and VI
Our official reply: Contested? Honestly, it needs a bit more to contest an area than coming from an empire base with a part of an alliance, fly some attack raids, gank some of us. We agree to mark 7Q-8Z2 as "warzone" between our alliances but thats it. If you want to contest GW, bring more ppl, base in GW, state that you want to start to claim GW, show up constantly.
We spoke already together and you said you just want to have fun in GW fighting us. Good. We love to pvp. We welcome you in GW, like i told you already. You killed some of us yes, we killed some of you. End of story.
Killboard linking, funny, if you need it. Every selfconfident alliance dont need to do it. "Mine is longer than yours" O.M.G 
Btw...only officials should post in this thread. /me looks at V-Members also with saying this, thx.
"-V- Vice President" "-V- Minister of Foreign affairs" "CEO Ascendancy-Inc."
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Antoinette Civari
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Posted - 2005.09.18 21:10:00 -
[728]
Originally by: Cartiff Please changed GW to Contested, between NBSI and VI
Do you plan to conquer great wildlands and to keep the region ? Because otherwise its only a warzone.
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Cartiff
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Posted - 2005.09.18 21:11:00 -
[729]
Our assaults on GW started on wednesday, we have been in GW everyday since then, and several large battles and smaller skirmishes have taken place since then.
The fights have been lots of fun, and we are enjoying ourselves. Our motives for this attack are our own, we are asking for a contested in GW, that is all.
As you have seen, more and more NBSI pilots are coming to the area, and so the engagement are only gonna heat up.
Lets have lots of fun and shoot lots.
BTW, Myself, DJ and Parity are the leaders of NBSI, Heyjoe is a director of E-R so we can all post in an official stance in this thread.
Cartiff, CEO Euphoria Released NBSI 4TW
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Avalon Beholder
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Posted - 2005.09.19 03:11:00 -
[730]
Originally by: Cartiff Our assaults on GW started on wednesday, we have been in GW everyday since then, and several large battles and smaller skirmishes have taken place since then.
The fights have been lots of fun, and we are enjoying ourselves. Our motives for this attack are our own, we are asking for a contested in GW, that is all.
As you have seen, more and more NBSI pilots are coming to the area, and so the engagement are only gonna heat up.
Lets have lots of fun and shoot lots.
BTW, Myself, DJ and Parity are the leaders of NBSI, Heyjoe is a director of E-R so we can all post in an official stance in this thread.
You dont contest a region by taking some fleets there for a few days. Warzone at best.
To contest youll need to be there a few weeks constantly at least.
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Kyle Caldrel
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Posted - 2005.09.19 04:54:00 -
[731]
Edited by: Kyle Caldrel on 19/09/2005 04:56:52 There needs to be agreedupon termenology.
Contested means 2 sides are fighting constantly for posession of a region
Warzone should mark escalated fighting in a region.
So it can change one week at a time- nothing to warzone, warzone to contested, and back again? what do you think JF?
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thoth foc
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Posted - 2005.09.19 06:48:00 -
[732]
Originally by: Avalon Beholder
Originally by: Cartiff Our assaults on GW started on wednesday, we have been in GW everyday since then, and several large battles and smaller skirmishes have taken place since then.
The fights have been lots of fun, and we are enjoying ourselves. Our motives for this attack are our own, we are asking for a contested in GW, that is all.
As you have seen, more and more NBSI pilots are coming to the area, and so the engagement are only gonna heat up.
Lets have lots of fun and shoot lots.
BTW, Myself, DJ and Parity are the leaders of NBSI, Heyjoe is a director of E-R so we can all post in an official stance in this thread.
You dont contest a region by taking some fleets there for a few days. Warzone at best.
To contest youll need to be there a few weeks constantly at least.
tbh unless NBSI have managed more than their usual friggie gank squads, which i seriously doubt, a pirate tag is more suitable..
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Raxxar
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Posted - 2005.09.19 06:59:00 -
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Cache has 3 systems of .5 and 2 systems of RA for ages, isn't it a reason for "contested" mark?
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Tansien
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Posted - 2005.09.19 08:29:00 -
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Originally by: Raxxar Cache has 3 systems of .5 and 2 systems of RA for ages, isn't it a reason for "contested" mark?
They dont hold any of the conq stations, so you mean that if we fly up to "IRON" (or whoever) territory and place a POS there we're contesting the region, even if we dont have any troops there?
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Cartiff
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Posted - 2005.09.19 09:26:00 -
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I won't link to our killbaord, but I'm sure peeps know where it is. You will notice we have been flying BS fleets with support. no frig raids.
Different tactics for different situations.
As to the length of our attacks, as i said we only started the invasion on wedensday, so it is work in progess
Cartiff, CEO Euphoria Released NBSI 4TW
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DB Preacher
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Posted - 2005.09.19 09:39:00 -
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Originally by: Tansien
Originally by: Raxxar Cache has 3 systems of .5 and 2 systems of RA for ages, isn't it a reason for "contested" mark?
They dont hold any of the conq stations, so you mean that if we fly up to "IRON" (or whoever) territory and place a POS there we're contesting the region, even if we dont have any troops there?
Agreed.
Pos + troops + offical forum post declaring the contesting of a region = Contested Region. Constant daily attacks from troops over a sustained period of time with the troops living in the region or very nearby (not just roadtrips) = Warzone.
Pretty simple i.m.o.
Lots of peeps in this thread seem to just want thier name on the map without actually putting in the groundwork in the game.
dbp
Current RKK Ranking: (CAL5) Second Lieutenant
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Ku'Gras
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Posted - 2005.09.19 09:58:00 -
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Originally by: Kyle Caldrel Edited by: Kyle Caldrel on 19/09/2005 04:56:52 There needs to be agreedupon termenology.
Contested means 2 sides are fighting constantly for posession of a region
Warzone should mark escalated fighting in a region.
So it can change one week at a time- nothing to warzone, warzone to contested, and back again? what do you think JF?
Agrees and agrees with what dpb said.
@ Antoinette Civari: Intention of keeping the territory is not enough to set it to contested. Intentions may not match your military power.
However: if the offensive part states that they are _not_ there to contest they territory but only looking for fun, pirating or on a more than one week road trip the territory should only be marked as a warzone, never as contested.
@ Raxxar: POS is a military or financial tool, it does not in itself hinder anyone from entering the system. The day we have player owned structures that actively shoots enemies or otherwise hinders their activites having them in enemy territory = contesting it.
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Cartiff
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Posted - 2005.09.19 10:37:00 -
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if we can get something official worked out regarding contestion and actually set some rules, it will eb alot easier for everyone to understand the maps and post their opinions.
I like the BOB post a few up, regarding contesting
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thoth foc
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Posted - 2005.09.19 10:59:00 -
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Originally by: DB Preacher
Pos + troops + offical forum post declaring the contesting of a region = Contested Region. Constant daily attacks from troops over a sustained period of time with the troops living in the region or very nearby (not just roadtrips) = Warzone.
tbh.. Pos + troops can = road trip also.. and given the regular updates of the map and the fact the politics are mostly static.. is the "sustained period of time" important? in reality the warzones are just different battlefields for old conflicts..
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DB Preacher
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Posted - 2005.09.19 11:26:00 -
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Originally by: thoth foc tbh.. Pos + troops can = road trip also..
ofc, but combined with an official statement of intent in the forums then it is a contested region.
If it is a roadtrip with pos and troops for a weekend then it's just a roadtrip...
If it is a roadtrip with pos and troops for an extended period then it is a warzone :)
imo ofc dbp
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RUNYOUFOOLS
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Posted - 2005.09.19 13:11:00 -
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Originally by: DB Preacher
ofc, but combined with an official statement of intent in the forums then it is a contested region.
If it is a roadtrip with pos and troops for a weekend then it's just a roadtrip...
If it is a roadtrip with pos and troops for an extended period then it is a warzone :)
imo ofc dbp
yup think that sums it up, well as close as your gonna get in eve, any chance of a rule change?.
Originally by: Ginger Magician I am the best and few would privately dispute it
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DesertKing
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Posted - 2005.09.19 14:51:00 -
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Originally by: Ku'Gras
@ Raxxar: POS is a military or financial tool, it does not in itself hinder anyone from entering the system. The day we have player owned structures that actively shoots enemies or otherwise hinders their activites having them in enemy territory = contesting it.
I wrote what I see : three red dots and two blue in cache. Not a big difference. From my side 40% (2 of 5) is 'enemy' for owners - almost half.And it looks like Cache owned by both sides. If .5. have no power to take them all then it is not their.
The number of troops cannot be checked by mapmaker. The number of nice coloured dots can. There is always doubts when there is no proof.
PS: As I can see from that thread Cache marked blue only cause of some forum-bots, not cause real reasons.
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Hast
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Posted - 2005.09.19 16:40:00 -
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Originally by: DesertKing
Originally by: Ku'Gras
@ Raxxar: POS is a military or financial tool, it does not in itself hinder anyone from entering the system. The day we have player owned structures that actively shoots enemies or otherwise hinders their activites having them in enemy territory = contesting it.
I wrote what I see : three red dots and two blue in cache. Not a big difference. From my side 40% (2 of 5) is 'enemy' for owners - almost half.And it looks like Cache owned by both sides. If .5. have no power to take them all then it is not their.
The number of troops cannot be checked by mapmaker. The number of nice coloured dots can. There is always doubts when there is no proof.
PS: As I can see from that thread Cache marked blue only cause of some forum-bots, not cause real reasons.
well, Our POS's are where they count, namely in the station systems.
hope that clears it up.
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Nytemaster
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Posted - 2005.09.19 20:32:00 -
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Edited by: Nytemaster on 19/09/2005 20:32:15 You want to contest based on less than a week of raiding? Unless you are the only ones there or are getting a 10:1 kill ratio with -V- still there, that's just a warzone based soley on your own words. Contested means you plan on taking the space as your own, not just so you can get a pretty little label on the next map.
I'm beginning to think the map is a bad idea because of these types of posts. This reminds me why a public and official killboard is not necessary.
Originally by: Cartiff I won't link to our killbaord, but I'm sure peeps know where it is. You will notice we have been flying BS fleets with support. no frig raids.
Different tactics for different situations.
As to the length of our attacks, as i said we only started the invasion on wedensday, so it is work in progess
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Vince Draken
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Posted - 2005.09.19 20:43:00 -
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Originally by: Nytemaster Edited by: Nytemaster on 19/09/2005 20:32:15 You want to contest based on less than a week of raiding? Unless you are the only ones there or are getting a 10:1 kill ratio with -V- still there, that's just a warzone based soley on your own words. Contested means you plan on taking the space as your own, not just so you can get a pretty little label on the next map.
I'm beginning to think the map is a bad idea because of these types of posts. This reminds me why a public and official killboard is not necessary.
Originally by: Cartiff I won't link to our killbaord, but I'm sure peeps know where it is. You will notice we have been flying BS fleets with support. no frig raids.
Different tactics for different situations.
As to the length of our attacks, as i said we only started the invasion on wedensday, so it is work in progess
AMEN!
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Light Darkness
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Posted - 2005.09.19 20:47:00 -
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Edited by: Light Darkness on 19/09/2005 20:47:33 Funny....
-V- worked over 21/2 month to claim/contest the GW.
Now you come since wednesday into GW and say contested??
Stay 2 month in GW and we get fun and you contested space.
Regards And wait for fun....
/LD
...sry for my bad english.But you know what i mean. *-V-President* *-V-Fleet Command* *-V- Public Killbord*
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Antoinette Civari
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Posted - 2005.09.19 22:00:00 -
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Originally by: Ku'Gras
@ Antoinette Civari: Intention of keeping the territory is not enough to set it to contested. Intentions may not match your military power.
Exactly, i`d say that intention of taking and holding the region + troops in the region for certain period of time + the possession of conquerable stations ( if any aviable ) in the region = contested status.
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thelung187
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Posted - 2005.09.20 01:45:00 -
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The [5] now wish to label Venal as a contested region, as the Phoenix Alliance controls virtually no systems within the area, as well as are rarely seen in a militaristic sense. Furthermore, Arcane Technologies extends an official invitation to Joshua to see for himself the control we currently exert over said area.
[ 2005.05.19 22:54:23 ] InnerDrive > only solution safespot till you leave or mine in empire till you leave or something |

Freezal
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Posted - 2005.09.20 23:33:00 -
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See 5's post 2 above about 5's def of contested space....
The PA wish to assert that a gank squad and pos for armored safe spot do not = contested space. Every time PA is in system ATUK log or SS this is not control. Ganking individul pilots while fun for them is not control. While shooting them is fun, we see this as a pirate infestation and a combat opertunity but ATUK have not interupted normal PA operations nor held any system against the will of the PA.
And yes please see lower venal at any time during PA normal operational hours to see just how untrue the above statement is.
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Cartiff
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Posted - 2005.09.21 01:37:00 -
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Concidering the general consensus regarding contested regions, NBSI will retract the contrested GW statement and instead ask for a warzone label.
NBSI are not taking POS's to the area, and so we fail to meet 1 crutial criteria. The invasion however, continues
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thelung187
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Posted - 2005.09.21 01:57:00 -
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Originally by: Freezal See 5's post 2 above about 5's def of contested space....
The PA wish to assert that a gank squad and pos for armored safe spot do not = contested space. Every time PA is in system ATUK log or SS this is not control. Ganking individul pilots while fun for them is not control. While shooting them is fun, we see this as a pirate infestation and a combat opertunity but ATUK have not interupted normal PA operations nor held any system against the will of the PA.
And yes please see lower venal at any time during PA normal operational hours to see just how untrue the above statement is.
Freezal PA Press Officer
I chose to remain professional and refrain from any sort of passive-aggressive smacktalk, I ask only that you treat me with the same respect. The fact of you saying whenever PA is in system ATUK log or safespots is simply untrue, and, again, I invite Joshua to see the sitaution for what it truly is. At the *VERY* least, Venal should be labeled a warzone, but time and again, Arcane Technologies waits for a fight, as ganking is the only recourse we have when the Phoenix Alliance is unable to call up it's own members to defend it's space in an organized group.
[ 2005.05.19 22:54:23 ] InnerDrive > only solution safespot till you leave or mine in empire till you leave or something |

Freezal
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Posted - 2005.09.21 02:19:00 -
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Agreed a warzone would be correct and accurate for the lower venal area around "hpa" and "6nj"....
Now that this is setteled let's get back to shooting each other.......
Good fights to all and to all a good death.....
Freezal PA Press Officer
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upsideup
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Posted - 2005.09.21 03:30:00 -
[753]
Originally by: DB Preacher
Pos + troops + offical forum post declaring the contesting of a region = Contested Region.
If thats the case, S******dly could have made forum post and contested the Deklein region for months. A contested region is going to have to require more then a POS and an extended military presence.
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NAFnist
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Posted - 2005.09.21 04:48:00 -
[754]
Originally by: upsideup
Originally by: DB Preacher
Pos + troops + offical forum post declaring the contesting of a region = Contested Region.
If thats the case, S******dly could have made forum post and contested the Deklein region for months. A contested region is going to have to require more then a POS and an extended military presence.
I agree with DBP here. Snig didnt wanna contest anything, ergo they didnt, even if they have been in control.
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thelung187
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Posted - 2005.09.21 15:47:00 -
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Originally by: Freezal Agreed a warzone would be correct and accurate for the lower venal area around "hpa" and "6nj"....
Now that this is setteled let's get back to shooting each other.......
Good fights to all and to all a good death.....
Freezal PA Press Officer
Then we are in mutual agreement, Venal in said areas will be labeled a warzone, until such time a different label is needed or removed.
[ 2005.05.19 22:54:23 ] InnerDrive > only solution safespot till you leave or mine in empire till you leave or something |

Recruitment1
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Posted - 2005.09.21 20:46:00 -
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bodycollecter
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Posted - 2005.09.22 02:40:00 -
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First Time looking at This Map. You have done a nice job props. Didn't even realize FREGE was on the map till someone told me the other day that our space was contested by -PH- lol. Only Problem is FREGE space is not contested.TBH I don't care what the map says. I usually only talk ingame. but I have members who got upset on the false accusations so here I am. Well now that the facts are straight Take care and safe journeys.
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Brigar Starcleaver
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Posted - 2005.09.22 12:00:00 -
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some of you people get way too political over this kind of stuff....
get a job !
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Joshua Foiritain
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Posted - 2005.09.22 14:05:00 -
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Contesting a Region with PCS; This is the easy one, invade the region, cap the stations, Blow up a lot of their ships, kill a few POSes they have sitting around and the next update should reflect your ownership.
Contesting a Region with NPC Stations or full NPC sovereignty; This is more tricky as you cant really claim anything, You cant prevent access to the stations as theyÆre npc owned and thus you cant kick them out. In regions like GWor OR its also not possible to see any POSes on the map, making the deployment and destruction of them hard to track.
Contesting a Region that has NPC stations takes a lot more time because of this, it will take an even longer time to get it uncontested. Coming down to take a look (If ive got the time) can speed things up.
WTB: One of them polaris ships with teleporter thingies. 
Anyhow, does anyone have a full region insta bms set for Outer Ring they feel like escrowing to me? (Preferably inside Gallente space)
Some minor updates today; PH contesting Frege space removed, its been a week and they havent downed or deployed a single POS, changed to warzone. ASCN gave Stain their space back. Forsaken Empire is capturing Smash space. NBSI fightin in GW. ------------------
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pershphanie
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Posted - 2005.09.22 21:39:00 -
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ls-jep now belongs to the forsaken empire. We have soverignty over and claim all of the vale stations. Vale belongs to the forsaken empire.
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HellsRazor
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Posted - 2005.09.23 06:20:00 -
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how is stain contested against VIRII + friends? Virii and SA have plus standings ..unless something has changed, guess you didnt read virii statement or they came out with a new one. if stain is contested by a couple se corps coming thru every once and awhile then all regions should be contested imo. but again i dont keep up with politics intensely
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Dalilah
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Posted - 2005.09.23 08:04:00 -
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Originally by: HellsRazor how is stain contested against VIRII + friends?
Take a look to legenda of Warzones. 5) VIRII + friends vs Stain Empire. Warzone is not contested space. It's a point of regular battles between two sides that involved in conlict.
P.S. And you still can enjoy by friendship of corporation that have killed 600++ ships of SE and SA in last 3 months. Good luck and sorry for off-topic.
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Ithildin
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Posted - 2005.09.23 08:24:00 -
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Ah, Joshua, you might want to add one more thing: both parties want to contest the region.
If one party is only there to blow stuff up and make life misserable for the other - then it's a warzone at most, I should say. --
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IcedBach Jr
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Posted - 2005.09.23 10:18:00 -
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How on earth can Stain still be contested space, Xenos are doing their job yes but they are exactly the same as Virii was to SE, and then it wasnt contested was it. Praeludium to success |

Joshua Foiritain
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Posted - 2005.09.23 11:54:00 -
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Originally by: Dalilah
Originally by: HellsRazor how is stain contested against VIRII + friends?
Take a look to legenda of Warzones. 5) VIRII + friends vs Stain Empire. Warzone is not contested space. It's a point of regular battles between two sides that involved in conlict.
P.S. And you still can enjoy by friendship of corporation that have killed 600++ ships of SE and SA in last 3 months. Good luck and sorry for off-topic.
Stain Region is contested between the Stain- Alliance and the Stain Empire. Virii and friends are fighting Stain Empire inside Stain too. ------------------
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IcedBach Jr
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Posted - 2005.09.23 12:30:00 -
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SE is now limited to 1 system mainly, just like virii did effectivly, hence they dont contest the whole region except in words. Stain should now be set only as SA controlled space with warzones like 4gq. Praeludium to success |

Evil Thug
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Posted - 2005.09.23 14:45:00 -
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Immensea and Detorid - contested regions too. ----------------------------------------------- Ash to Ash Dust to Dust |

Joshua Foiritain
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Posted - 2005.09.23 15:46:00 -
[768]
Originally by: Evil Thug Immensea and Detorid - contested regions too.
The Brutor Tribe is invading 0.0 space? ------------------
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Dalilah
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Posted - 2005.09.23 16:12:00 -
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Originally by: IcedBach Jr SE is now limited to 1 system mainly, just like virii did effectivly, hence they dont contest the whole region except in words. Stain should now be set only as SA controlled space with warzones like 4gq.
4GQ is a strategical cross of 3 ways - to West Stain, to North Stain/Catch and to Esoteria. So not amazing that 4GQ is a main point of our interests but we have our own reasons to limit military presence by Stain and North Esoteria only atm.
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Elenia Kheynes
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Posted - 2005.09.23 16:25:00 -
[770]
Originally by: Joshua Foiritain
Originally by: Evil Thug Immensea and Detorid - contested regions too.
The Brutor Tribe is invading 0.0 space?
Evil Thug is ceo of Rage and Terror -_-;;
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Cloned Mark
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Posted - 2005.09.23 16:58:00 -
[771]
Originally by: Elenia Kheynes
Originally by: Joshua Foiritain
Originally by: Evil Thug Immensea and Detorid - contested regions too.
The Brutor Tribe is invading 0.0 space?
Evil Thug is ceo of Rage and Terror -_-;;
He left.
Nice alliance btw Virii :) -----------------------------
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Omeega
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Posted - 2005.09.23 17:52:00 -
[772]
Originally by: Cloned Mark
Originally by: Elenia Kheynes
Originally by: Joshua Foiritain
Originally by: Evil Thug Immensea and Detorid - contested regions too.
The Brutor Tribe is invading 0.0 space?
Evil Thug is ceo of Rage and Terror -_-;;
He left.
Nice alliance btw Virii :)
He's still CEO. I confirm what he said.
Don't speak english. F1,f2,f3...
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Elenia Kheynes
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Posted - 2005.09.23 23:15:00 -
[773]
Originally by: Cloned Mark
Originally by: Elenia Kheynes
Originally by: Joshua Foiritain
Originally by: Evil Thug Immensea and Detorid - contested regions too.
The Brutor Tribe is invading 0.0 space?
Evil Thug is ceo of Rage and Terror -_-;;
He left.
Nice alliance btw Virii :)
And you haven't seen the titles yet >.<
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LoxyRider
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Posted - 2005.09.24 10:10:00 -
[774]
Originally by: Omeega
Originally by: Cloned Mark
Originally by: Elenia Kheynes
Originally by: Joshua Foiritain
Originally by: Evil Thug Immensea and Detorid - contested regions too.
The Brutor Tribe is invading 0.0 space?
Evil Thug is ceo of Rage and Terror -_-;;
He left.
Nice alliance btw Virii :)
He's still CEO. I confirm what he said.
So RA speak for RAT then? ----- Eris Discordia; I think the proper term is <3
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MAXSuicide
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Posted - 2005.09.24 10:26:00 -
[775]
Originally by: LoxyRider
Originally by: Omeega
Originally by: Cloned Mark
Originally by: Elenia Kheynes
Originally by: Joshua Foiritain
Originally by: Evil Thug Immensea and Detorid - contested regions too.
The Brutor Tribe is invading 0.0 space?
Evil Thug is ceo of Rage and Terror -_-;;
He left.
Nice alliance btw Virii :)
He's still CEO. I confirm what he said.
So RA speak for RAT then?
maybe he just knows evil thug ingame?
dont jump to conclusions loxy and this is the map thread not 5 vs ra thread :)
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Drezzster
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Posted - 2005.09.24 11:06:00 -
[776]
Was just thinking... Isn't Fountain jointly owned by BOB and Xelas alliance? Not just BOB
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Dianabolic
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Posted - 2005.09.24 11:16:00 -
[777]
Fountain is part of the BoB Community, inhabited and occupied by XELAS.
Mark that how you wish.
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Drezzster
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Posted - 2005.09.24 11:21:00 -
[778]
Edited by: Drezzster on 24/09/2005 11:22:13 Ok, but why did Cochise make this post then?
"Official Xelas Announcement:
Greetings,
The Xelas Alliance has been offered and accepted the opportunity to co-occupy the Region of Fountain along with BoB.
Have a nice day!"
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Dianabolic
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Posted - 2005.09.24 11:25:00 -
[779]
Originally by: Drezzster Edited by: Drezzster on 24/09/2005 11:22:13 Ok, but why did Cochise make this post then?
"Official Xelas Announcement:
Greetings,
The Xelas Alliance has been offered and accepted the opportunity to co-occupy the Region of Fountain along with BoB.
Have a nice day!"
Which part of my post are you having problems with?
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Hast
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Posted - 2005.09.24 11:25:00 -
[780]
Originally by: Drezzster Edited by: Drezzster on 24/09/2005 11:22:13 Ok, but why did Cochise make this post then?
"Official Xelas Announcement:
Greetings,
The Xelas Alliance has been offered and accepted the opportunity to co-occupy the Region of Fountain along with BoB.
Have a nice day!"
does it really matter?
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Drezzster
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Posted - 2005.09.24 11:49:00 -
[781]
Edited by: Drezzster on 24/09/2005 11:50:02
Originally by: Hast
does it really matter?
No, I am just bored
And I am not having "problems" with your post Dianabolic, its just that you said xelas occupie Fountain but Cochise said co-occupie as in 50/50 share of Fountain.
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Dianabolic
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Posted - 2005.09.24 12:09:00 -
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Fair enough Drezz, we'll let the mapmaker leave it as it is, change it, mark it differently, whatever, XS are there with more numbers more often, we fought for and conquered the region and invited them up there.
Dunno if it makes any difference, tbh.
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MAXSuicide
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Posted - 2005.09.24 14:25:00 -
[783]
Cosmic Fusion vs FIX Alliance warzone over Querious plz.
Petition inc had been attacking the area for some time, and have merged into Cosmic Fusion who have also continued the attacks.
Change the map accordingly plz 
Your doing a great job josh.
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corporal hicks
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Posted - 2005.09.24 20:00:00 -
[784]
Originally by: MAXSuicide Cosmic Fusion vs FIX Alliance warzone over Querious plz.
Petition inc had been attacking the area for some time, and have merged into Cosmic Fusion who have also continued the attacks.
Change the map accordingly plz 
Your doing a great job josh.
Max i think the warzone stuff is really just for alliance versus alliance, no matter how big you might like to think your corp is!
" Stay Frosty "
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Cartiff
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Posted - 2005.09.24 20:19:00 -
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VIRII + friend are/were on the map, so i suppose its how much damage they inflict as to weither they are o nthe map or not.
I dunno, I'm a newb
(waits for someone to quote the above, to prove that IQ's are dropping around the world)  
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MAXSuicide
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Posted - 2005.09.24 20:57:00 -
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Edited by: MAXSuicide on 24/09/2005 21:01:01
Originally by: corporal hicks
Originally by: MAXSuicide Cosmic Fusion vs FIX Alliance warzone over Querious plz.
Petition inc had been attacking the area for some time, and have merged into Cosmic Fusion who have also continued the attacks.
Change the map accordingly plz 
Your doing a great job josh.
Max i think the warzone stuff is really just for alliance versus alliance, no matter how big you might like to think your corp is!
Negative.
We have seen warzones before, such as in pure blind that have been caused just by Death Row in the past. We have seen the FREGE Alliance vs Pilots of honour in pure blind too, and as cart said above, VIRII were making warzones as well. Its not the size of the dog, its the fight in the dog.
Again i request to map maker to take our request into consideration. Thanks.
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Elenia Kheynes
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Posted - 2005.09.24 23:59:00 -
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Originally by: Cartiff VIRII + friend are/were on the map, so i suppose its how much damage they inflict as to weither they are o nthe map or not.
I dunno, I'm a newb
(waits for someone to quote the above, to prove that IQ's are dropping around the world)  
we're on the map because we're cute 
Dear friendly customer... Can I have your money ?
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Cartiff
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Posted - 2005.09.25 13:34:00 -
[788]
a cute frenchmen, scary
Cartiff, CEO Euphoria Released NBSI 4TW
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Elenia Kheynes
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Posted - 2005.09.25 15:49:00 -
[789]
You love frenchies, you just can't admit it 
Dear friendly customer... Can I have your money ?
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Muthsera
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Posted - 2005.09.26 04:33:00 -
[790]
Edited by: Muthsera on 26/09/2005 04:33:50 if anybody bothered to check. The RO alliance is long dead. Cruel own germinate for the last 3-4 weeks now. And Smash don't despute it. If 4s or xan want to despute it thats up to them, smash however isn't anywhere to be seen. SoonÖ
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pershphanie
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Posted - 2005.09.26 08:28:00 -
[791]
Edited by: pershphanie on 26/09/2005 08:28:51
Originally by: Muthsera Edited by: Muthsera on 26/09/2005 04:33:50 if anybody bothered to check. The RO alliance is long dead. Cruel own germinate for the last 3-4 weeks now. And Smash don't despute it. If 4s or xan want to despute it thats up to them, smash however isn't anywhere to be seen.
this is true
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Cartiff
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Posted - 2005.09.26 09:39:00 -
[792]
yup, smash have been, well............. smashed
Cartiff, CEO Euphoria Released NBSI 4TW
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R4d1o4ct1v3
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Posted - 2005.09.26 09:55:00 -
[793]
I've been around Stain region for a while now and I must say calling it a contested zone because of SE is not right. I've maybe seen two members of SE inside the Stain region in the past week. There will always be sombody in 4GQ bugging us but thats just life as usual in the Stain region. ------------------- "I don't suffer from insanity, I'm enjoying every second of it." |

raVn666
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Posted - 2005.09.27 05:53:00 -
[794]
smashed... ..well outnumbered ...as always outkilled ... never enjoy vale enemies ...we sure will 
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DB Preacher
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Posted - 2005.09.27 08:06:00 -
[795]
Edited by: DB Preacher on 27/09/2005 08:06:41 Imp have abandoned Outer Ring. There is no fighting there (as can be seen from our killboard.)
BoB forces are in control of the region.
dbp
Current RKK Ranking: (CAL5) Kenin
Drop by and say hi in Reikoku Forums.
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Dalilah
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Posted - 2005.09.27 09:33:00 -
[796]
Originally by: R4d1o4ct1v3 I've been around Stain region for a while now and I must say calling it a contested zone because of SE is not right. I've maybe seen two members of SE inside the Stain region in the past week.
And that 2 members were kill your Arma and pod 2 days ago so I think you still angry? FYI you're not a centre of the world and if you haven't see something it's not mean that some things not exist ever. Imho Joushua is more objective in his decision to mark Stain and North Esoteria as contested space.
The Xenobytes will give you experience beyond limits - pain and pleasure indivisible |

pardux
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Posted - 2005.09.27 11:21:00 -
[797]
Dalilah xb still mining in d-f ? :o
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Dalilah
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Posted - 2005.09.27 11:43:00 -
[798]
Originally by: pardux Dalilah xb still mining in d-f ? :o
Nope. XB still enjoy your miners 
The Xenobytes will give you experience beyond limits - pain and pleasure indivisible |

Klav
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Posted - 2005.09.27 12:40:00 -
[799]
Originally by: Dalilah And that 2 members were kill your Arma and pod 2 days ago so I think you still angry? FYI you're not a centre of the world and if you haven't see something it's not mean that some things not exist ever. Imho Joushua is more objective in his decision to mark Stain and North Esoteria as contested space.
Do you have the goal to take over stain from SA? Is it even remotely possible with current numbers on each side, ~2400 vs ~400?
Both should be fulfilled for it to be contested and not a warzone. If you have some hidden card then show it or reapply for contested space then/if the status changes.
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Dalilah
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Posted - 2005.09.27 13:34:00 -
[800]
Edited by: Dalilah on 27/09/2005 13:35:17
Originally by: Klav Do you have the goal to take over stain from SA? Is it even remotely possible with current numbers on each side, ~2400 vs ~400?
May be I something missed but is contested space has defined by member count already?
Quote: Both should be fulfilled for it to be contested and not a warzone. If you have some hidden card then show it or reapply for contested space then/if the status changes.
Same question. If 2400 and 400 members of both alliances no have a doubts that they controls region - are you win because your alliance chat have more icons of characters in it? And about our hidden card: off forum not a best place for talks about our own military advantages. See you again in Stain tonight...
Ohhh... No tears, please. It's a waste of good suffering... |
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Agil Scout
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Posted - 2005.09.27 15:36:00 -
[801]
Originally by: Dalilah Edited by: Dalilah on 27/09/2005 13:35:17
Originally by: Klav Do you have the goal to take over stain from SA? Is it even remotely possible with current numbers on each side, ~2400 vs ~400?
May be I something missed but is contested space has defined by member count already?
Quote: Both should be fulfilled for it to be contested and not a warzone. If you have some hidden card then show it or reapply for contested space then/if the status changes.
Same question. If 2400 and 400 members of both alliances no have a doubts that they controls region - are you win because your alliance chat have more icons of characters in it? And about our hidden card: off forum not a best place for talks about our own military advantages. See you again in Stain tonight...
This Thread is not for you lot to squabble in, now step away from it or make a new thread, this is wasting bandwith in here.
------------ [IAC] Teh best noob corp in the world. I R AN ALT FEAR ME! |

Light Darkness
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Posted - 2005.09.27 21:59:00 -
[802]
1st:
Foundation dont live anymore = no pvp action against Foundation in GW
2nd:
NBSI activitys switched to Frig squads and mostly under control in GW. 7Q- is a "hotspot". not more.
Regards /LD
*-V-President* *-V-Fleet Command* *-V- Public Killbord*
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Cartiff
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Posted - 2005.09.28 10:30:00 -
[803]
we'll see
Cartiff, CEO Euphoria Released NBSI 4TW
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Omeega
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Posted - 2005.09.28 11:58:00 -
[804]
Originally by: Cartiff
we'll see
:)
Don't speak english. F1,f2,f3...
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DoctorGonzo
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Posted - 2005.09.28 16:02:00 -
[805]
Originally by: DB Preacher Edited by: DB Preacher on 27/09/2005 08:06:41 Imp have abandoned Outer Ring. There is no fighting there (as can be seen from our killboard.)
BoB forces are in control of the region.
dbp
Just to reiterate what DB has said for the next map, BoB are in full control of The Outer Ring. To be honest it doesn't even warrant a war zone marker, but I'm not going to quibble over that.
Get Your BoB Protection Kit Here |

Light Darkness
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Posted - 2005.09.28 20:03:00 -
[806]
Edited by: Light Darkness on 28/09/2005 20:03:09 and we wait @Cartiff 
*-V-President* *-V-Fleet Command* *-V- Public Killbord*
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Corak
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Posted - 2005.09.28 20:23:00 -
[807]
immensea too 
UA Industry :: We produce frags |

Kathleen
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Posted - 2005.09.29 05:39:00 -
[808]
"The Five" hasn't been sighted in PA space in atleast a week, they got tired of getting spanked, hiding in their POS wasn't much fun I guess.
Anyway the #11 warzone should be put into pending for removal, they have moved back where they belong.
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The Monitor
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Posted - 2005.09.29 06:46:00 -
[809]
Originally by: Kathleen "The Five" hasn't been sighted in PA space in atleast a week, they got tired of getting spanked, hiding in their POS wasn't much fun I guess.
Anyway the #11 warzone should be put into pending for removal, they have moved back where they belong.
ROFL!~!!!
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LoxyRider
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Posted - 2005.09.29 07:52:00 -
[810]
Originally by: Kathleen "The Five" hasn't been sighted in PA space in atleast a week, they got tired of getting spanked, hiding in their POS wasn't much fun I guess.
Anyway the #11 warzone should be put into pending for removal, they have moved back where they belong.
Funny , but yes roadtrip is over so you can remove the marker. Feel free to check our killboard for who got "spanked" lol. ----- Eris Discordia; I think the proper term is <3
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nitr0s
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Posted - 2005.09.29 08:31:00 -
[811]
Originally by: Kathleen "The Five" hasn't been sighted in PA space in atleast a week, they got tired of getting spanked, hiding in their POS wasn't much fun I guess.
Anyway the #11 warzone should be put into pending for removal, they have moved back where they belong.
At first I thought you were an alt, due to the sheer redicliousness of your post. Until I learned (to my amazment) that you are in fact a PA member. You guys got beatdown to the point OCC and someone else left you because they couldnt stand the embarrsement of being associated with you. So, please, enter reality and make sure your CEO gags you.
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DoctorGonzo
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Posted - 2005.09.29 08:47:00 -
[812]
Originally by: Joshua Foiritain Anyhow, does anyone have a full region insta bms set for Outer Ring they feel like escrowing to me? (Preferably inside Gallente space)
I'm trying to get these sorted for you today.
You'll need a Syndicate set too, or at least Orvolle to 3KNK, then The Outer Ring set will kick in.
Get Your BoB Protection Kit Here |

Joshua Foiritain
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Posted - 2005.09.29 09:35:00 -
[813]
Originally by: DoctorGonzo
Originally by: Joshua Foiritain Anyhow, does anyone have a full region insta bms set for Outer Ring they feel like escrowing to me? (Preferably inside Gallente space)
I'm trying to get these sorted for you today.
You'll need a Syndicate set too, or at least Orvolle to 3KNK, then The Outer Ring set will kick in.
Thanks and no worries, ive got Syndicate covered  ------------------
[Coreli Corporation Mainframe] |

Corak
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Posted - 2005.09.29 11:02:00 -
[814]
and immensea ?
UA Industry :: We produce frags |

Cartiff
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Posted - 2005.09.29 21:18:00 -
[815]
Well, Light, we're here
Cartiff, CEO Euphoria Released NBSI 4TW
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Uggs386
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Posted - 2005.09.29 21:42:00 -
[816]
only problem is v doesnt seem to be here atm.
Pat and Max sitting in a tree, K I S S I N G MAXSuicide > dude, u couldnt get enough of me the other night Cmdr Patrick > i love you |

nitr0s
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Posted - 2005.09.29 23:41:00 -
[817]
Smalking in the map thread 4TL guys......
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Mystiel Raleigh
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Posted - 2005.09.30 04:51:00 -
[818]
Originally by: nitr0s
At first I thought you were an alt, due to the sheer redicliousness of your post. Until I learned (to my amazment) that you are in fact a PA member. You guys got beatdown to the point OCC and someone else left you because they couldnt stand the embarrsement of being associated with you. So, please, enter reality and make sure your CEO gags you.
Originally by: nitr0s Smalking in the map thread 4TL guys......
Hypocrisy 4tw.
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Omeega
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Posted - 2005.09.30 10:44:00 -
[819]
Originally by: Mystiel Raleigh
Originally by: nitr0s
At first I thought you were an alt, due to the sheer redicliousness of your post. Until I learned (to my amazment) that you are in fact a PA member. You guys got beatdown to the point OCC and someone else left you because they couldnt stand the embarrsement of being associated with you. So, please, enter reality and make sure your CEO gags you.
Originally by: nitr0s Smalking in the map thread 4TL guys......
Hypocrisy 4tw.
10/10
Don't speak english. F1,f2,f3...
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Ifni
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Posted - 2005.09.30 13:52:00 -
[820]
There is a typo in the map:
Contested Region B) Our Ring (Bottom half)
SHould be Outer. -
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xPreatorianx
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Posted - 2005.09.30 16:43:00 -
[821]
was wondering is there anyway to get this map ingame?Paragon soul is owned by sa and there are no wars at all down there its been safe for 2 months atleast so why is tehre the war icon there?
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Agil Scout
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Posted - 2005.09.30 18:37:00 -
[822]
Originally by: xPreatorianx was wondering is there anyway to get this map ingame?Paragon soul is owned by sa and there are no wars at all down there its been safe for 2 months atleast so why is tehre the war icon there?
Copy n paste teh link into ingame browser for latest.jpg
http://www.eve-files.com/media/corp/CRII/Latest.jpg
------------ [IAC] Teh best noob corp in the world. I R AN ALT FEAR ME! |

Edoo
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Posted - 2005.10.01 18:29:00 -
[823]
Originally by: nitr0s
Originally by: Kathleen "The Five" hasn't been sighted in PA space in atleast a week, they got tired of getting spanked, hiding in their POS wasn't much fun I guess.
Anyway the #11 warzone should be put into pending for removal, they have moved back where they belong.
At first I thought you were an alt, due to the sheer redicliousness of your post. Until I learned (to my amazment) that you are in fact a PA member. You guys got beatdown to the point OCC and someone else left you because they couldnt stand the embarrsement of being associated with you. So, please, enter reality and make sure your CEO gags you.
You have no idea why OCC left, and being embarrassed of being asscosiated with them? If that was the case then i might have a different bio by now.
To everyone: lets keep smack out of this thread
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Yo Fore
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Posted - 2005.10.02 11:27:00 -
[824]
Time to change Fountain to contested space again. FA and former FA corp gangs do as they please in Fountain space with little or no resistance. Kill boards will show heavy losses on Xelas alliance, minimal on FA.
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Dianabolic
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Posted - 2005.10.02 12:04:00 -
[825]
Originally by: Yo Fore Time to change Fountain to contested space again. FA and former FA corp gangs do as they please in Fountain space with little or no resistance. Kill boards will show heavy losses on Xelas alliance, minimal on FA.
BoB reject this claim, a warzone marker is adequate.
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TWD
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Posted - 2005.10.02 13:01:00 -
[826]
Originally by: Yo Fore Time to change Fountain to contested space again. FA and former FA corp gangs do as they please in Fountain space with little or no resistance. Kill boards will show heavy losses on Xelas alliance, minimal on FA.
I have seen no FA gangs in Fountain except for a few frigate pilots and Friendmaster. Where and when can I find these gangs?
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Fast Track
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Posted - 2005.10.02 13:17:00 -
[827]
Originally by: TWD
Originally by: Yo Fore Time to change Fountain to contested space again. FA and former FA corp gangs do as they please in Fountain space with little or no resistance. Kill boards will show heavy losses on Xelas alliance, minimal on FA.
I have seen no FA gangs in Fountain except for a few frigate pilots and Friendmaster. Where and when can I find these gangs?
Maybe you should spend alittle more time around Fountain, I'm there almost all the time. Speak what you know, not what you wish. Btw, I'm Yo Fore.
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TWD
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Posted - 2005.10.02 13:20:00 -
[828]
Originally by: Fast Track
Originally by: TWD
Originally by: Yo Fore Time to change Fountain to contested space again. FA and former FA corp gangs do as they please in Fountain space with little or no resistance. Kill boards will show heavy losses on Xelas alliance, minimal on FA.
I have seen no FA gangs in Fountain except for a few frigate pilots and Friendmaster. Where and when can I find these gangs?
Maybe you should spend alittle more time around Fountain, I'm there almost all the time. Speak what you know, not what you wish. Btw, I'm Yo Fore.
Just give me the location and the time when the FA are online then. |
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Zhuge Liang

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Posted - 2005.10.02 13:52:00 -
[829]
Originally by: TWD
Originally by: Fast Track
Originally by: TWD
Originally by: Yo Fore Time to change Fountain to contested space again. FA and former FA corp gangs do as they please in Fountain space with little or no resistance. Kill boards will show heavy losses on Xelas alliance, minimal on FA.
I have seen no FA gangs in Fountain except for a few frigate pilots and Friendmaster. Where and when can I find these gangs?
Maybe you should spend alittle more time around Fountain, I'm there almost all the time. Speak what you know, not what you wish. Btw, I'm Yo Fore.
Just give me the location and the time when the FA are online then.
You are reminded that this is forum is for the submission of map changes only.
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John Blackthorn
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Posted - 2005.10.02 15:29:00 -
[830]
Romainian Alliance and Crule Alliance do not exsit in any form in the Gemniate Region. The Upper region is fully controled by FE, the very lower area is where Coalition of Empire resides. There is no fighting going on in the area and hasn't been for several weeks.
n-r is still a hot zone between RA/5 though COE moves through that system dail but very carefully to avoid both groups.
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Good'eye
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Posted - 2005.10.02 20:52:00 -
[831]
Originally by: John Blackthorn Romainian Alliance and Crule Alliance do not exsit in any form in the Gemniate Region. The Upper region is fully controled by FE, the very lower area is where Coalition of Empire resides. There is no fighting going on in the area and hasn't been for several weeks.
n-r is still a hot zone between RA/5 though COE moves through that system dail but very carefully to avoid both groups.
I've been flyin all over gemniate all week. I've seen more romanians than i can count... ive also seen assloads of cruels. Ive seen 0 FE...
Im not in any alliance so im unbias, seems to me like your info is inaccurate.
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sableye
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Posted - 2005.10.02 21:37:00 -
[832]
Norad claim the qs constellation in syndicate, its not contested and as far as I'm aware no really prior claim, the reason its not contested is its a dump but norad live there.
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Joshua Foiritain
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Posted - 2005.10.02 23:02:00 -
[833]
I'm Curious about the Fountain thing; I assume you guys arent running around trough the Core? I saw a grand total of 1 fountian alliance member during my tour, compared to quite a lot of Xelas with a few Bob mixed in.
Will look around some more soon. Will look into COE, Cruel, RO situation too  ------------------
[Coreli Corporation Mainframe] |

John Blackthorn
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Posted - 2005.10.03 03:05:00 -
[834]
I am not here to argue a point but to state what I have seen in lower Gemniate. Plenty of FE roaming through the area looking for Crule in the evening. Plenty of 5 roaming through the day time hours. We see one or two crule come passing through with idle threats. We see The RA keeping to them selfs (not entering Gemni) and fighting 5 all the time near n-r.
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Muthsera
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Posted - 2005.10.03 12:02:00 -
[835]
Originally by: Joshua Foiritain I'm Curious about the Fountain thing; I assume you guys arent running around trough the Core? I saw a grand total of 1 fountian alliance member during my tour, compared to quite a lot of Xelas with a few Bob mixed in.
Will look around some more soon. Will look into COE, Cruel, RO situation too 
There will be deltas and some cruel pilots around. However the numbers will be limited. Also. There is a small pos community in the lower parts that I dunno who is currently. Have not been in germinate for a week. But the RO alliance is no more after some insidents around 1 month ago. FE I think is desputing the easter part of vale whit smash as your map shows. There should be xanadu and 4s pilots in germinate using either bwf or akkio as access routes. I don't know if they plan to despute the region. As we're no longer part of cruel and have only week old info on it. Thats the best picture I can give of the situation.
Unless anyone give any other info to despute it I think you should see if the situation is status que. SoonÖ
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QwaarJet
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Posted - 2005.10.04 11:20:00 -
[836]
Best remove nexus from the map.Only 1 system held and almost all of us left, except the Executor corp, BGBR. "Hobbes, she stepped into the Perimter Of Wisdom.Run!" |

ExarKun99
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Posted - 2005.10.04 17:32:00 -
[837]
Originally by: John Blackthorn Romainian Alliance and Crule Alliance do not exsit in any form in the Gemniate Region. The Upper region is fully controled by FE, the very lower area is where Coalition of Empire resides. There is no fighting going on in the area and hasn't been for several weeks.
n-r is still a hot zone between RA/5 though COE moves through that system dail but very carefully to avoid both groups.
We (Cruel) r still here, still fighting... RO Alliance killed itself by backstabbing Delta Team, which r still with us. Only ppl seen around Geminate r Shinra, 4S Corp, COE (Haulers,etc for their POS's) Of course there r many other ppl aswell, because Geminate has so many entrances but above mentioned corps r the only ones showing up in some numbers!
Feel free to answer...
Never hunt something you can't strike down... |

Drew Kelly
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Posted - 2005.10.05 02:35:00 -
[838]
Red Alliance owns the region of Immensea...there is no contest as Shinra has withdrawn. Before you say i'm not in Red Alliance.. I fly with them and it shows plainly on the map as well.
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John Blackthorn
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Posted - 2005.10.05 15:55:00 -
[839]
I can agree with ExarKun99 statement. So now you have confirm from several sides :P
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Sakura Nihil
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Posted - 2005.10.06 14:39:00 -
[840]
updates?
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Joshua Foiritain
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Posted - 2005.10.06 14:47:00 -
[841]
Originally by: Sakura Nihil updates?
Working on the last changes atm, had a lot of stuff to check  ------------------
[Coreli Corporation Mainframe] |

The Hooch
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Posted - 2005.10.06 15:52:00 -
[842]
The Tarus area in Fountain is certainly not controlled by BoB or Xe'las.
Hooch
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Kleric
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Posted - 2005.10.06 16:30:00 -
[843]
Originally by: Joshua Foiritain Edited by: Joshua Foiritain on 06/10/2005 15:39:12
Originally by: Sakura Nihil updates?
Working on the last changes atm, had a lot of stuff to check 
Edit: Changes; RA claimed whats-that-region called. COE moved to Geminate. FE captured all but 1 system in Vale. Imp is no longer active in Outer ring. FA's request to mark Fountain has been denied due to only being able to find a Single FA pilot in the region.
Think thats about it.
What about the SA space? .. i dont think few frigs a week can count as contested ... im ATM whining to the alliance about how few target ive had for a long time.
99% of what i post is bull**** and in no way represent my corp or alliance |

Mang0o
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Posted - 2005.10.06 17:37:00 -
[844]
Josh: Add Querious to your changes, as MAXSuicide said earlier, Cosmic Fusion were and are around querious often, as our other groups. Warzone over querious would be fine. We have all the pe****on guys in C-F now and we have been fighting FIX for a long time.. Thx m8
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FalloutBoy
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Posted - 2005.10.06 18:19:00 -
[845]
Originally by: Kleric
Originally by: Joshua Foiritain Edited by: Joshua Foiritain on 06/10/2005 15:39:12
Originally by: Sakura Nihil updates?
Working on the last changes atm, had a lot of stuff to check 
Edit: Changes; RA claimed whats-that-region called. COE moved to Geminate. FE captured all but 1 system in Vale. Imp is no longer active in Outer ring. FA's request to mark Fountain has been denied due to only being able to find a Single FA pilot in the region.
Think thats about it.
What about the SA space? .. i dont think few frigs a week can count as contested ... im ATM whining to the alliance about how few target ive had for a long time.
remember what happend last time you complained about a lack of targets?
need a sig? Gallery Contact me for more info |

Daroh
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Posted - 2005.10.06 18:40:00 -
[846]
Please mark all "Wicked Creek" region as Red Alliance space. I think also "Cache", "Detorid" and "Scalding Pass" should be marked as "Contested space". thx.
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Kleric
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Posted - 2005.10.06 19:15:00 -
[847]
Originally by: FalloutBoy
Originally by: Kleric
Originally by: Joshua Foiritain Edited by: Joshua Foiritain on 06/10/2005 15:39:12
Originally by: Sakura Nihil updates?
Working on the last changes atm, had a lot of stuff to check 
Edit: Changes; RA claimed whats-that-region called. COE moved to Geminate. FE captured all but 1 system in Vale. Imp is no longer active in Outer ring. FA's request to mark Fountain has been denied due to only being able to find a Single FA pilot in the region.
Think thats about it.
What about the SA space? .. i dont think few frigs a week can count as contested ... im ATM whining to the alliance about how few target ive had for a long time.
remember what happend last time you complained about a lack of targets?
Yes, i got targets .. and lost a ship .. who cares at least i saw there was some life.
But i must say i havnt seen anyone from Species and adeptus something in a long time, the only thing i see from SE is the occasional XB ship.
99% of what i post is bull**** and in no way represent my corp or alliance |

DrunkenOne
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Posted - 2005.10.06 19:40:00 -
[848]
Originally by: Mang0o Josh: Add Querious to your changes, as MAXSuicide said earlier, Cosmic Fusion were and are around querious often, as our other groups. Warzone over querious would be fine. We have all the pe****on guys in C-F now and we have been fighting FIX for a long time.. Thx m8
Not needed g0o, empire wars/contracts doesn't necessarily mean warzone or contested, and most of the fighting is around agil<-->badivefi area anyways 
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Omeega
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Posted - 2005.10.06 20:29:00 -
[849]
Originally by: Daroh Please mark all "Wicked Creek" region as Red Alliance space. I think also "Cache", "Detorid" and "Scalding Pass" should be marked as "Contested space". thx.
/signed.
Don't speak english. F1,f2,f3...
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Jeebs
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Posted - 2005.10.06 20:39:00 -
[850]
just out of curiosity, where are the "pirate" hotspots these days? .
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LoxyRider
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Posted - 2005.10.06 21:00:00 -
[851]
Originally by: Omeega
Originally by: Daroh Please mark all "Wicked Creek" region as Red Alliance space. I think also "Cache", "Detorid" and "Scalding Pass" should be marked as "Contested space". thx.
/signed.
Tbh you just ruined your credibility on this thread.
F-
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Cloned Mark
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Posted - 2005.10.06 21:34:00 -
[852]
Originally by: LoxyRider
Originally by: Omeega
Originally by: Daroh Please mark all "Wicked Creek" region as Red Alliance space. I think also "Cache", "Detorid" and "Scalding Pass" should be marked as "Contested space". thx.
/signed.
Tbh you just ruined your credibility on this thread.
F-
/signed ----------------------------- hmmm
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Omeega
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Posted - 2005.10.06 21:55:00 -
[853]
Edited by: Omeega on 06/10/2005 21:57:40 ?
Don't speak english. F1,f2,f3...
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Hassis
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Posted - 2005.10.06 22:07:00 -
[854]
Originally by: LoxyRider
Originally by: Omeega
Originally by: Daroh Please mark all "Wicked Creek" region as Red Alliance space. I think also "Cache", "Detorid" and "Scalding Pass" should be marked as "Contested space". thx.
/signed.
Tbh you just ruined your credibility on this thread.
F-
Remember last time you was in game not on forums dude. You'd better fight for your rights, do not fight using your tongue :)
UA Industry :: We produce frags |

Mang0o
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Posted - 2005.10.06 22:08:00 -
[855]
Originally by: LoxyRider
Originally by: Omeega
Originally by: Daroh Please mark all "Wicked Creek" region as Red Alliance space. I think also "Cache", "Detorid" and "Scalding Pass" should be marked as "Contested space". thx.
/signed.
Tbh you just ruined your credibility on this thread.
F-
What ya mean by that lozyrider?!
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John Blackthorn
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Posted - 2005.10.06 23:03:00 -
[856]
Geminate looks very correct.
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Joshua Foiritain
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Posted - 2005.10.06 23:34:00 -
[857]
Whoopsie daisy forgot about Scalding Pass. Stupid POS/sovernigty wars are confusing my poor ingame map 
I realized something though, imagine if RA and the Five where to form an alliance and invaded GW theyd have the same space as CA did back in them days including 2 regions extra. Not to mention theyd have more then enough power to take over the entire south east of the universe 
Imagine...one big block on the map covering everything between Catch, Paragon, Cache and GW...  ------------------
[Coreli Corporation Mainframe] |

Cartiff
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Posted - 2005.10.07 00:37:00 -
[858]
i demand more warzone markers on the map, WAR = fun
Cartiff, CEO Euphoria Released NBSI 4TW
"Uggs386 > omfg i like little boys"
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Orc A
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Posted - 2005.10.07 00:39:00 -
[859]
Edited by: Orc A on 07/10/2005 00:39:33
Quote: Imagine...one big block on the map covering everything between Catch, Paragon, Cache and GW...
Hey, I remember when Cyvok tried to do that.... -Orky |

Dalilah
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Posted - 2005.10.07 11:25:00 -
[860]
Edited by: Dalilah on 07/10/2005 11:28:14
Originally by: Kleric But i must say i havnt seen anyone from Species and adeptus something in a long time, the only thing i see from SE is the occasional XB ship.
I can sell you uber-"occasional XB ship" that have killed 475 SA ships during last month. It much more stronger then a dread. Price is reasonable  P.S. When you was in Stain last time bro?
Edit: spelling
Ohhh... No tears, please. It's a waste of good suffering... |
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OzaLoni
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Posted - 2005.10.07 11:38:00 -
[861]
Originally by: LoxyRider
Originally by: Kathleen "The Five" hasn't been sighted in PA space in atleast a week, they got tired of getting spanked, hiding in their POS wasn't much fun I guess.
Anyway the #11 warzone should be put into pending for removal, they have moved back where they belong.
Funny , but yes roadtrip is over so you can remove the marker. Feel free to check our killboard for who got "spanked" lol.
Can number 11 be removed.... regardless of who got what.... they have left.... of that both sides agree! Don't **** me off! I'm running out of places to hide the bodies...
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Kleric
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Posted - 2005.10.07 12:26:00 -
[862]
Originally by: Dalilah Edited by: Dalilah on 07/10/2005 11:28:14
Originally by: Kleric But i must say i havnt seen anyone from Species and adeptus something in a long time, the only thing i see from SE is the occasional XB ship.
I can sell you uber-"occasional XB ship" that have killed 475 SA ships during last month. It much more stronger then a dread. Price is reasonable  P.S. When you was in Stain last time bro?
Edit: spelling
I havnt left 0,0 space in about a month "bro" .
99% of what i post is bull**** and in no way represent my corp or alliance |

Vuka
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Posted - 2005.10.07 17:17:00 -
[863]
2005.09.18 15:39:00
Victim: Kleric Alliance: Stain- Alliance Corporation: The Collective Destroyed Type: Dominix Solar System: Leva System Security Level: 0.6
after u loose mining Domi in empire))
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reaTh
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Posted - 2005.10.07 17:23:00 -
[864]
post killmails 4tl ? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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Kleric
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Posted - 2005.10.07 18:57:00 -
[865]
Originally by: Vuka 2005.09.18 15:39:00
Victim: Kleric Alliance: Stain- Alliance Corporation: The Collective Destroyed Type: Dominix Solar System: Leva System Security Level: 0.6
after u loose mining Domi in empire))
Ok, i went to empire to empire to buy a dominix .. whoopy doo
Ill refrase my statement, i have lived in 0,0 for many months with some trips to empire.
99% of what i post is bull**** and in no way represent my corp or alliance |

Cartiff
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Posted - 2005.10.07 19:03:00 -
[866]
Did someone really just post a killmail in a map thread?
OMG
Cartiff, CEO Euphoria Released NBSI 4TW
"Uggs386 > omfg i like little boys"
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Palicate
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Posted - 2005.10.07 20:46:00 -
[867]
COE and Cruel intentions are now at war
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Logan Williams
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Posted - 2005.10.07 21:48:00 -
[868]
Originally by: Joshua Foiritain Whoopsie daisy forgot about Scalding Pass. Stupid POS/sovernigty wars are confusing my poor ingame map 
I realized something though, imagine if RA and the Five where to form an alliance and invaded GW theyd have the same space as CA did back in them days including 2 regions extra. Not to mention theyd have more then enough power to take over the entire south east of the universe 
Imagine...one big block on the map covering everything between Catch, Paragon, Cache and GW... 
Originally by: Zhuge Liang You are reminded that this is forum is for the submission of map changes only.
I really think our map guy should be less suggestive than this. Other than that, the map looks great. Keep up the good work. Tnx |

Joshua Foiritain
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Posted - 2005.10.07 22:44:00 -
[869]
Edited by: Joshua Foiritain on 07/10/2005 22:44:06
Originally by: Logan Williams I really think our map guy should be less suggestive than this.
Hypocracy 4tl? 
Originally by: Zhuge Liang You are reminded that this is forum is for the [color=orange]submission of map changes only.[/color]
Happy now?  ------------------
[Coreli Corporation Mainframe] |

Agil Scout
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Posted - 2005.10.07 23:04:00 -
[870]
Originally by: Vuka 2005.09.18 15:39:00
Victim: Kleric Alliance: Stain- Alliance Corporation: The Collective Destroyed Type: Dominix Solar System: Leva System Security Level: 0.6
after u loose mining Domi in empire))
OHNOES A NUBBIN, NUBBIN ALERT EVERYBODY LETS ALL GO AND HIDE. ------------ [IAC] Teh best noob corp in the world. I R AN ALT FEAR ME! |
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Kyle Caldrel
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Posted - 2005.10.08 02:44:00 -
[871]
Josh, with the recent MC announcement of Gem, i would suggest that you at least put a war marker over it.
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zincol
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Posted - 2005.10.08 08:37:00 -
[872]
Gem is still CI,COE just have pos's and dont claim gem at all,or otherwise any 1 could build 3-4 pos's and claim a region.
CI/sas ect is friendly to mc also. so as i see it it's messy and that mc r killin all the unwanted ex-FA out of gem.
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Seleene
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Posted - 2005.10.08 10:05:00 -
[873]
Edited by: Seleene on 08/10/2005 10:05:38
Josh can do with the map as he sees fit. You won't see any MC in this thread in a ****ing contest about labels. The players of the area are in communication and the reality of the situation will sort itself out soon enough. -
We're outnumbered! That simplifies the problem! |

Cartiff
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Posted - 2005.10.08 10:16:00 -
[874]
well said
Cartiff, CEO Euphoria Released NBSI 4TW
"Uggs386 > omfg i like little boys"
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Komolov
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Posted - 2005.10.09 09:11:00 -
[875]
Originally by: Cartiff i demand more warzone markers on the map, WAR = fun
Move your ass to Tenerifis and put it on fire. This will help a lot to mapmaker :)
-------------------- Sincerely yours, Dmitry V. Komolov FSP-B |

Destroyer Draxx
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Posted - 2005.10.09 11:26:00 -
[876]
Edited by: Destroyer Draxx on 09/10/2005 11:27:27 Stain region still contested :?
So Far So Good....So What |

Ngozi
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Posted - 2005.10.09 16:27:00 -
[877]
Yes its contested. Why not?
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Creamster
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Posted - 2005.10.09 16:49:00 -
[878]
Originally by: Destroyer Draxx Edited by: Destroyer Draxx on 09/10/2005 11:27:27 Stain region still contested :?
I also find it strange that Stain is still contested. We roam around every day, kill what we can, haven't seen SA fleets or even decent size gangs for weeks. Yes there are SA folks staying docked and minding their own business but no military resistance. This caused us to move our operations further south. What SE has to do to have Stain uncontested? Would destroying SA pos'es help? ___________ 2005.09.04:"After the 7 days SE corporations will be removed from the said regions" (Q) XB killboard |

Destroyer Draxx
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Posted - 2005.10.09 20:30:00 -
[879]
Smite did what u did, but Stain was not contested m8. This is not the part of the forums to discuss bout it so I ll stfu 
So Far So Good....So What |

Nick Curso
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Posted - 2005.10.09 21:17:00 -
[880]
Well unless XB have moved outta 4gq and about 3 systems around it errm can anyone say smite again? and how much SE clamed they wernt a prob.
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Elenia Kheynes
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Posted - 2005.10.09 23:38:00 -
[881]
Originally by: Komolov
Originally by: Cartiff i demand more warzone markers on the map, WAR = fun
Move your ass to Tenerifis and put it on fire. This will help a lot to mapmaker :)
There is nothing to put on fire in Tenerifis atm. Otherwise I would be busy burning it. 
Dear friendly customer... Can I have your money ?
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Cartiff
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Posted - 2005.10.10 02:04:00 -
[882]
Tene is boring
Cartiff, CEO Euphoria Released NBSI 4TW
"Uggs386 > omfg i like little boys"
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Creamster
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Posted - 2005.10.10 02:51:00 -
[883]
Originally by: Nick Curso Well unless XB have moved outta 4gq and about 3 systems around it errm can anyone say smite again? and how much SE clamed they wernt a prob.
Current situation in Stain is quite simple: there are two alliances, one has an organized pvp fleet out every day, the other doesn't. However SA is very strong in Isoteria and Paragon, that's why we prefer fighting there instead of camping npc stations in DSS, LGK, 9RQ, G-ME ___________ 2005.09.04:"After the 7 days SE corporations will be removed from the said regions" (Q) XB killboard |

Komolov
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Posted - 2005.10.10 06:48:00 -
[884]
Originally by: Cartiff Tene is boring
Ok, lots of ATUKs expected in Cache. Fell free to join the fun. 
-------------------- Sincerely yours, Dmitry V. Komolov FSP-B |

Elenia Kheynes
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Posted - 2005.10.10 11:39:00 -
[885]
Detorid looks better, but it's not really close from any station 
Dear friendly customer... Can I have your money ?
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Edward Black
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Posted - 2005.10.11 18:14:00 -
[886]
No decent SA gangs to fight eh O-o
Daily IE-Ex alone foots a 10 or more person gang for atleast 5 hours and often more.
And i know a few other corps do similar, if you'd look a bit harder you might find a fight
Btw creamster, everytime bar one iv run into you with even numbers you ran 
Oh well, my point is that Stain inst really contested anymore.
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Nick Curso
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Posted - 2005.10.11 20:51:00 -
[887]
Maybe a war zone marker for stain?
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IcedBach Jr
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Posted - 2005.10.11 23:54:00 -
[888]
Originally by: Creamster
Originally by: Nick Curso Well unless XB have moved outta 4gq and about 3 systems around it errm can anyone say smite again? and how much SE clamed they wernt a prob.
Current situation in Stain is quite simple: there are two alliances, one has an organized pvp fleet out every day, the other doesn't. However SA is very strong in Isoteria and Paragon, that's why we prefer fighting there instead of camping npc stations in DSS, LGK, 9RQ, G-ME
Roaming around super safes is not exactly a reason to contest a whole region, and btw, if all of SA would be in 4GQ instead of doing things in 3 regions maybe some more pilots would be stationed in that system, how on earth can you have that region contested. Praeludium to success |

Creamster
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Posted - 2005.10.12 01:06:00 -
[889]
Originally by: IcedBach Jr
Roaming around super safes is not exactly a reason to contest a whole region, and btw, if all of SA would be in 4GQ instead of doing things in 3 regions maybe some more pilots would be stationed in that system, how on earth can you have that region contested.
You sir can clearly see the results of our roaming on our killboard. Btw today was the first day SA had a fleet in 4GQ in weeks, nice progress in uncontesting, but still I wonder if you guys are up for a fight or just trying to scare us with your numbers.  ___________ 2005.09.04:"After the 7 days SE corporations will be removed from the said regions" (Q) XB killboard |

Vince Draken
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Posted - 2005.10.12 02:09:00 -
[890]
Originally by: Creamster
Originally by: IcedBach Jr
Roaming around super safes is not exactly a reason to contest a whole region, and btw, if all of SA would be in 4GQ instead of doing things in 3 regions maybe some more pilots would be stationed in that system, how on earth can you have that region contested.
You sir can clearly see the results of our roaming on our killboard. Btw today was the first day SA had a fleet in 4GQ in weeks, nice progress in uncontesting, but still I wonder if you guys are up for a fight or just trying to scare us with your numbers. 
If all you got left is posting on the map section bragging about killmails in a pathetic hope to get some form of recognition, you've already lost pal. A region isnt contested with inferior numbers that employ the usual gurilla tactics. Espicially a region with NPC stations...
The above thoughts and statements are IC and should be taken as such. |
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Creamster
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Posted - 2005.10.12 02:32:00 -
[891]
It's contested allright if superior numbers are sitting docked or simply are not present in the region. Oh well what i know, i better go back to my guerilla super safe spot roaming  ___________ 2005.09.04:"After the 7 days SE corporations will be removed from the said regions" (Q) XB killboard |

j0rz
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Posted - 2005.10.12 03:42:00 -
[892]
SA space is still contested by SE, i roam through there everyday and inever see SA fleets. I wish se the ebst of luck, map maker keep up the good work :)
Such is Life
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Camador
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Posted - 2005.10.12 18:07:00 -
[893]
SE is the dominating force around 4GQ. whereas SA have a heavy prescence in esoteria and paragon. minor SA prescence around 9rq and upper stain. ______________________________
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Shin Ra
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Posted - 2005.10.12 19:47:00 -
[894]
I wouldn't say Stain is contested. Its a warzone deffinatly (centered around 4GQ) where SE seems to be based.
This from a non biased outside opinion
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Kleric
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Posted - 2005.10.12 20:21:00 -
[895]
Staying at SS's and docked in a system when you even outnumber the opponent isnt "contesting a region" AFAIK
99% of what i post is bull**** and in no way represent my corp or alliance |

Krazow
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Posted - 2005.10.13 01:40:00 -
[896]
Why does the map show The Five as controlling most of the eastern regions? Clearly this is not the case. I'm sitting here scratching my head trying to figure out how an alliance can control without contest the regions that The Five control (according to Josh's map) with only having sovereignty in 2 of the regions, and only sovereignty over 3 systems.
Am I missing something or does the map not reflect the situation accurately?
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Pepperami
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Posted - 2005.10.13 02:43:00 -
[897]
Originally by: Krazow Why does the map show The Five as controlling most of the eastern regions? Clearly this is not the case. I'm sitting here scratching my head trying to figure out how an alliance can control without contest the regions that The Five control (according to Josh's map) with only having sovereignty in 2 of the regions, and only sovereignty over 3 systems.
Am I missing something or does the map not reflect the situation accurately?
Due to the way sovereignty works (badly), it's easy to stick up POSes before downtime and claim sovereignty when you're not a dominent force in an area. If you actually fly in those regions you'll realise that they are completely under .5. control, the warzone markers are sufficiant to show RA's "presence".
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DesertKing
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Posted - 2005.10.13 08:53:00 -
[898]
Originally by: Pepperami
Due to the way sovereignty works (badly), it's easy to stick up POSes before downtime and claim sovereignty when you're not a dominent force in an area. If you actually fly in those regions you'll realise that they are completely under .5. control, the warzone markers are sufficiant to show RA's "presence".
These days "sovereignty" means dominant forces. Somewhere. It does not mean defending actual space.
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Hassis
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Posted - 2005.10.13 11:03:00 -
[899]
Originally by: Krazow Why does the map show The Five as controlling most of the eastern regions? Clearly this is not the case. I'm sitting here scratching my head trying to figure out how an alliance can control without contest the regions that The Five control (according to Josh's map) with only having sovereignty in 2 of the regions, and only sovereignty over 3 systems.
Am I missing something or does the map not reflect the situation accurately?
You are right, but its hard to find anyone from Red alliance or Teh Five who bother to post intel about 5/RA regions on forums :)
We'd better continue kill each other
UA Industry :: We produce frags |

Hast
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Posted - 2005.10.13 13:50:00 -
[900]
Originally by: Hassis
Originally by: Krazow Why does the map show The Five as controlling most of the eastern regions? Clearly this is not the case. I'm sitting here scratching my head trying to figure out how an alliance can control without contest the regions that The Five control (according to Josh's map) with only having sovereignty in 2 of the regions, and only sovereignty over 3 systems.
Am I missing something or does the map not reflect the situation accurately?
You are right, but its hard to find anyone from Red alliance or Teh Five who bother to post intel about 5/RA regions on forums :)
We'd better continue kill each other
Hassis 4tw
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ramelof
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Posted - 2005.10.13 15:08:00 -
[901]
Originally by: Kleric Staying at SS's and docked in a system when you even outnumber the opponent isnt "contesting a region" AFAIK
*write Kleric after lose arma and pod at the ss
http://www.xenobytes.net/ |
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Abdalion

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Posted - 2005.10.13 19:01:00 -
[902]
Originally by: Joshua Foiritain
Working on the last changes atm, had a lot of stuff to check
Joshua,
Please be so kind as to post me a "you can delete all posts before this one" when you update.
Also, people in this thread: Read the rules laid out in the second post. Some of you may wish to check your emails too, as a nice reminder link to the rules is included. ---
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John Novastar
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Posted - 2005.10.14 13:01:00 -
[903]
just a quick note about the key on the right.
Talking about germinate, shouldn't it be Cruel vs COE not Cruel vs FE??
Ours is not to reason why, Ours is but to do or die
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Orc A
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Posted - 2005.10.15 11:36:00 -
[904]
Edited by: Orc A on 15/10/2005 11:36:54 Creamster, My friend - the reason you dont see any fleets that are trying to counter you, is because we get bored of hunting you guys. We get a fleet, u get outnumbered and go safe... etc. I'm sorry if this may sound alittle disrespectfull, and i asure you, it's not ment to be such: You are just not of enough importance. Nor enough of a threat.
As for your "Contesting" of Stain, come on, you know it's bull****. You are having a few kills here and there, but really, in the eyes of the average Stainer, your just another passing thing, like Smite, Burn eden... You will eventually either get bored and leave, either run out of supplies and start operating in northern corridor (which i would very like, cuz our corpgangs dont usually like going south of 9rq, we prefer 9rq and north :))
Anyways You know that i respect all of you guys a whole bunch, but come on, drop the "contesting" act.
-Orky |

Hans Roaming
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Posted - 2005.10.15 12:13:00 -
[905]
Low sec Domain, Tash-Murkon and upper CVA space has become a war zone between The Priory + TSBS (Pirate corps) and The Huzzah Federation, don't know if you want to show this.
Outreach Executive Huzzah Foreign Affairs
Into PVP? Join us to fight some of the best pvpers. |

Amthrianius
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Posted - 2005.10.15 23:23:00 -
[906]
Feel free to remove [5] from everywhere apart from Curse [Even tho we still own numerous stations in PCS regions, feel free to grab them, if you want them, we don't]  ---------------
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SirMolle
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Posted - 2005.10.17 05:05:00 -
[907]
Request to mark down Aridia as a warzone according to;
http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=236930
This to make sure no one misses it.
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Seleene
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Posted - 2005.10.17 08:26:00 -
[908]
Edited by: Seleene on 17/10/2005 08:26:33
Please mark Geminate as a warzone.
From what we have seen and been told, Cruel Intentions is no longer a viable entity.
Coalition of Empires has lost eleven corps in the last week and has no military presence whatsoever in the region. They do have a few POS's which are being starved, destroyed or taken down.
4S Corp is the only viable military force in the region and they rarely move anywhere other than the route between FDZ and Empire. -
We're outnumbered! That simplifies the problem! |

Coug
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Posted - 2005.10.17 17:27:00 -
[909]
I hereby state my objection to BoB's warzone marker on Empire territory. Empire is a fluid warzone and/or safe haven for all. Empire is not the 0.0 player's canvas for political power or control. If you mark this down, where do you stop? which alliance conflicts, which pirate infestation of <.5 space?
I will not discuss this here beyond this post, as this is not the place according to the rules, but I do feel that it is within the rules to make a singular objection in this thread.
~C~ |

Blacklight
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Posted - 2005.10.17 17:57:00 -
[910]
Originally by: Coug I hereby state my objection to BoB's warzone marker on Empire territory. Empire is a fluid warzone and/or safe haven for all. Empire is not the 0.0 player's canvas for political power or control. If you mark this down, where do you stop? which alliance conflicts, which pirate infestation of <.5 space?
I will not discuss this here beyond this post, as this is not the place according to the rules, but I do feel that it is within the rules to make a singular objection in this thread.
Dispute it all you like, it's about to become a warzone and if we feel like it it'll become contested and then owned. Until a Dev tells us otherwise we'll do what we please with the mechanics we're given.
Aridia will be a warzone from Friday, it should be marked on the map to help those uninvolved in the conflict keep clear.
Joshua we'll let you know when we decide to contest it or own it.
Eve Blacklight Style
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Berak FalCheran
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Posted - 2005.10.17 21:38:00 -
[911]
Originally by: Coug I hereby state my objection to BoB's warzone marker on Empire territory. Empire is a fluid warzone and/or safe haven for all. Empire is not the 0.0 player's canvas for political power or control. If you mark this down, where do you stop? which alliance conflicts, which pirate infestation of <.5 space?
I will not discuss this here beyond this post, as this is not the place according to the rules, but I do feel that it is within the rules to make a singular objection in this thread.
Signed.
To allow this claim would would be an absolutely *rediculous* precedent to set. I won't discuss anymore either. :)
Originally by: Malthros Zenobia In short: Cry me a river, build a bridge, and get over it.
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Dianabolic
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Posted - 2005.10.17 22:08:00 -
[912]
Originally by: Berak FalCheran
Originally by: Coug I hereby state my objection to BoB's warzone marker on Empire territory. Empire is a fluid warzone and/or safe haven for all. Empire is not the 0.0 player's canvas for political power or control. If you mark this down, where do you stop? which alliance conflicts, which pirate infestation of <.5 space?
I will not discuss this here beyond this post, as this is not the place according to the rules, but I do feel that it is within the rules to make a singular objection in this thread.
Signed.
To allow this claim would would be an absolutely *rediculous* precedent to set. I won't discuss anymore either. :)
The precedent is already set, please see CVA space.
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Joshua Foiritain
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Posted - 2005.10.17 22:17:00 -
[913]
Edited by: Joshua Foiritain on 17/10/2005 22:18:16
Originally by: Dianabolic
Originally by: Berak FalCheran
Originally by: Coug I hereby state my objection to BoB's warzone marker on Empire territory. Empire is a fluid warzone and/or safe haven for all. Empire is not the 0.0 player's canvas for political power or control. If you mark this down, where do you stop? which alliance conflicts, which pirate infestation of <.5 space?
I will not discuss this here beyond this post, as this is not the place according to the rules, but I do feel that it is within the rules to make a singular objection in this thread.
Signed.
To allow this claim would would be an absolutely *rediculous* precedent to set. I won't discuss anymore either. :)
The precedent is already set, please see CVA space.
CVA claims providence, which is 0.0. Empire space is not claimable as you cant actually contest it from its rightfull owners and thus empire space claims will not be marked on the map.
A warzone marker however sounds fair to me since Bob plans on wardecing everyone they see, which would make it a hostile warzone towards random pilots moving trough there. ------------------
[Coreli Corporation Mainframe] |

Dianabolic
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Posted - 2005.10.17 22:59:00 -
[914]
Originally by: Joshua Foiritain Edited by: Joshua Foiritain on 17/10/2005 22:18:16
Originally by: Dianabolic
Originally by: Berak FalCheran
Originally by: Coug I hereby state my objection to BoB's warzone marker on Empire territory. Empire is a fluid warzone and/or safe haven for all. Empire is not the 0.0 player's canvas for political power or control. If you mark this down, where do you stop? which alliance conflicts, which pirate infestation of <.5 space?
I will not discuss this here beyond this post, as this is not the place according to the rules, but I do feel that it is within the rules to make a singular objection in this thread.
Signed.
To allow this claim would would be an absolutely *rediculous* precedent to set. I won't discuss anymore either. :)
The precedent is already set, please see CVA space.
CVA claims providence, which is 0.0. Empire space is not claimable as you cant actually contest it from its rightfull owners and thus empire space claims will not be marked on the map.
A warzone marker however sounds fair to me since Bob plans on wardecing everyone they see, which would make it a hostile warzone towards random pilots moving trough there.
Sorry Josh, my bad, as previously stated a warzone is all we're asking for - however, regards claiming NPC space, there IS precedent - see Geminate, Venal, Fountain, Curse... unless you're referring to areas that are only 0.0 (of which Aridia has quite a few, but "empire" 0.0).
Anyway, something for you to perhaps consider for the future.
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Aquiesse Erus
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Posted - 2005.10.18 07:29:00 -
[915]
Dianabolic, you are taking that quite a bit too far, what Joshua meant is EMPIRE space as in 0,0(with sentrys) to 1.0 will not be shown on his map if someone claims it.
Everyone knows you cannot own a part of empire, this is just basic fact.
It would be terrble to allow BoB this one thing because the results would be outrageous.
New character-X comes here and says he/she claims Yulai... New Character Y comes and says he/she claims All of Tash-Murkon etc... etc...
Very bad!
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Nafri
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Posted - 2005.10.18 09:53:00 -
[916]
Edited by: Nafri on 18/10/2005 12:13:58 I better say nothing --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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Tiberius Caesar
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Posted - 2005.10.18 10:00:00 -
[917]
Originally by: Nafri You cannot wardec noobcorps, so all you attempts are merly a joke guys
Since thy dont have the tools to bring total war on lowsec thy dont deserve a warzone. When we were lowsec pirating we basicly controlled Verge-Vercor/Essence and some other regions, noone was safe there and often we were the only ones in space in this region.
Did we own it? No..
Controled = SS when anything not a soft target is in local you mean?
Whatever, nobody cares about you guys. Camping low sec empire is so 2003.
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Aquiesse Erus
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Posted - 2005.10.18 10:46:00 -
[918]
Indeed, Zombie Inc didnt get Yulai put under their name when they tanked concord :)
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Joshua Foiritain
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Posted - 2005.10.18 14:19:00 -
[919]
Originally by: Dianabolic however, regards claiming NPC space, there IS precedent - see Geminate, Venal, Fountain, Curse... unless you're referring to areas that are only 0.0 (of which Aridia has quite a few, but "empire" 0.0).
True but those NPC regions allow you to shoot anyone freely, CONCORD will not come in and defend people so any claims have to backed up by the players 100% or someone else will simply kick them out.
Ill keep an eye on the Aridia Situation, assuming Bob really starts to wardec corporations there it will most likely be marked as a warzone because... eeeh... itll be a warzone  ------------------
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Nobues
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Posted - 2005.10.18 15:37:00 -
[920]
Edited by: Nobues on 18/10/2005 15:37:27 all I want is the map to be updated 18days is way to long for maps not to be updated. Or if the map maker who does it now can't update it faster than a almost a month can we get a new map maker please.
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ParMizaN
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Posted - 2005.10.18 15:53:00 -
[921]
Originally by: Nobues Edited by: Nobues on 18/10/2005 15:37:27 all I want is the map to be updated 18days is way to long for maps not to be updated. Or if the map maker who does it now can't update it faster than a almost a month can we get a new map maker please.
lets not go through this: it s frequent enough as it is.. show your apreciation.
We DO NOT need a new mapmaker k?
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Nez Perces
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Posted - 2005.10.18 16:13:00 -
[922]
Originally by: Nobues Edited by: Nobues on 18/10/2005 15:37:27 all I want is the map to be updated 18days is way to long for maps not to be updated. Or if the map maker who does it now can't update it faster than a almost a month can we get a new map maker please.
Joshua is one of the best mapmakers this community has had, twice a month for a map update is just fine tbh.
Josh ftw, keep up the great work.
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Kcel Chim
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Posted - 2005.10.18 16:44:00 -
[923]
Originally by: Nobues Edited by: Nobues on 18/10/2005 15:37:27 all I want is the map to be updated 18days is way to long for maps not to be updated. Or if the map maker who does it now can't update it faster than a almost a month can we get a new map maker please.
some changes need time to confirm them and to "sink in". Hence a 2 week or 18 day period will reflect nicely what happened while a shorter time will only display the claims of those who lack any patience. Not even mentioning that it will most likely be a waste as some regions in space change quicker then others while others dont change at all.
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Hoshi
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Posted - 2005.10.18 16:52:00 -
[924]
Yeah not an easy time to update the map, for example how are you going to mark all the regions .5. left?
I do agree that because lots of stuff has happend a map update should be comming soon but question is if it's not better to wait a bit longer to see how certain regions will end up.
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Joshua Foiritain
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Posted - 2005.10.18 20:12:00 -
[925]
Edited by: Joshua Foiritain on 18/10/2005 20:17:12
Originally by: Nobues all I want is the map to be updated 18days is way to long for maps not to be updated. Or if the map maker who does it now can't update it faster than a almost a month can we get a new map maker please.
Feel to contact Zhuge Liang about your complaint, if he agress ill be more then happy to step down.
In the mean time id like to see you check out a dozen of diffrent contesting claims spread over eve, (Edit: Playing eve should be in here too) and combine that with a reasonably active life outside eve and see if you can make the updates faster  Plus the last update was 12 days ago, (today) 18 - (Last Update) 6 = (*gasp*) 12 days.
Edit: Will do Abdalion. ------------------
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Abdalion

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Posted - 2005.10.18 20:14:00 -
[926]
Joshua,
When you do update, please let me know when I can delete all the posts above yours.
Thanks. ---
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Hast
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Posted - 2005.10.19 20:02:00 -
[927]
maybe its time to just put a big warzone marker all over empire 
I dont think that so many alliances have been at empire war with eachother before
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Hast
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Posted - 2005.10.19 20:06:00 -
[928]
Edited by: Hast on 19/10/2005 20:05:58
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pershphanie
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Posted - 2005.10.19 20:23:00 -
[929]
Originally by: Hast maybe its time to just put a big warzone marker all over empire 
I dont think that so many alliances have been at empire war with eachother before
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Uggs386
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Posted - 2005.10.19 21:03:00 -
[930]
Edited by: Uggs386 on 19/10/2005 21:03:12
Originally by: Hast maybe its time to just put a big warzone marker all over empire 
I dont think that so many alliances have been at empire war with eachother before
This man speaks the truth now lets get him a beer.
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Hast
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Posted - 2005.10.19 21:35:00 -
[931]
Originally by: Uggs386 Edited by: Uggs386 on 19/10/2005 21:03:12
Originally by: Hast maybe its time to just put a big warzone marker all over empire 
I dont think that so many alliances have been at empire war with eachother before
This man speaks the truth now lets get him a beer.
I like the way this man thinks.
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The Enslaver
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Posted - 2005.10.20 08:00:00 -
[932]
Requesting warzone marker's over:
Lonetrek The Forge The Citadel Heimatar Metropolis Molden Heath
And like, all over empire regions.
Factions:
North Vs. South :) --------
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emptydude
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Posted - 2005.10.21 12:57:00 -
[933]
omg wrong character ftl 
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Paul Castrin
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Posted - 2005.10.21 23:25:00 -
[934]
Originally by: Dianabolic Sorry Josh, my bad, as previously stated a warzone is all we're asking for - however, regards claiming NPC space, there IS precedent - see Geminate, Venal, Fountain, Curse... unless you're referring to areas that are only 0.0 (of which Aridia has quite a few, but "empire" 0.0).
Anyway, something for you to perhaps consider for the future.
I'd say that if you can't change the sovereignty of a system then it can't be claimed by any save the NPC empire that already has (thus the definition of "empire" space). AFAIK Aridia even though it has .0 space is permanently marked as Amarr sovereign space and no POSes or Outposts can change that.
So using that logic, only war markers should be placed in empire space. At least until CCP changes things to allow PC alliances to take over empire space.
Honestly I have a problem with any alliance claiming space when they put no more effort to control / defend it than ganking people at gates. Unfortunately the current system is in its infancy and has a long way to go before PC alliances can truly build PC empires that mean more than just cute colors on an out of game map.
Gl, gh and hf all!
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Kyle Caldrel
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Posted - 2005.10.22 00:16:00 -
[935]
Originally by: Paul Castrin
Originally by: Dianabolic Sorry Josh, my bad, as previously stated a warzone is all we're asking for - however, regards claiming NPC space, there IS precedent - see Geminate, Venal, Fountain, Curse... unless you're referring to areas that are only 0.0 (of which Aridia has quite a few, but "empire" 0.0).
Anyway, something for you to perhaps consider for the future.
I'd say that if you can't change the sovereignty of a system then it can't be claimed by any save the NPC empire that already has (thus the definition of "empire" space). AFAIK Aridia even though it has .0 space is permanently marked as Amarr sovereign space and no POSes or Outposts can change that.
So using that logic, only war markers should be placed in empire space. At least until CCP changes things to allow PC alliances to take over empire space.
Honestly I have a problem with any alliance claiming space when they put no more effort to control / defend it than ganking people at gates. Unfortunately the current system is in its infancy and has a long way to go before PC alliances can truly build PC empires that mean more than just cute colors on an out of game map.
Gl, gh and hf all!
By that reasoning, NPC regions cant be calimed like Stain so on and so forth.
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Admiral HashBlock
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Posted - 2005.10.22 03:56:00 -
[936]
Omg Dude, the only reason you "dont agree" with the fact that "PC Empires" dontrol (or dont control) space, as you say, is because u are bitter because you are not part of an aliance. You are part of a gank squad. I understand how lonelly it might get, and i understand that you simply dont have the numbers to claim your own space, but come on, deal with it like a man, and not like BE, wearing 5 WCS.
kthnxbye
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Rod Blaine
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Posted - 2005.10.22 14:15:00 -
[937]
I think it's fairly simple.
Aridia has a few high sec systems, but mostly low sec and empire 0.0.
The agression in that region will not be restricted to targets of war only. And if 'illegal' agression isn't enough for some target corporations then their turn in the war queue will come sooner or later.
Effectively, this makes the region a warzone to all who travel in it.
On the other hand, the rest of empire, massive alliance wars notwithstanding, are quite safe for the majority of Eve. These wars only concern those involved in these alliances, and noone has stated the intention to declare or wage war on everyone in any other empire region.
Lastly, the distinction between say Aridia and Stain escapes me. Both are NPC sovereignty and thus cant be claimed effectively through game mechanics. The only difference is in those few high sec systems in Aridia that have concord protection. But then again, that's what the war declarations are for. If we can declare war on the inhabitants and make them leave, then I would say that effectively proves dominance over the region, concord or no concord.
A warzone mark is by no means a strange thing under the current circumstances, and neither would be a full claim and ownership flag on Joshua's map IF the situation that we ask for it and can back up the claim ever arises.
I don't doubt we could, but we haven't asked for it nor proven this ability so that discussion is useless now. Let's keep it for the time we come here and ask for the region to be coloured as our property ok ? _______________________________________________
Yes yes, blogging is passÚ I know. Rod's Ramblingz on Eve-Online Solutions to your issues. |

Cartiff
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Posted - 2005.10.22 16:05:00 -
[938]
Rod, would it not be quicker, to have the individual corps in BOB leave the alliance, thne then war dec corps seperately, thus instead of 3wars, you could have 12
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Fred0
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Posted - 2005.10.22 16:20:00 -
[939]
Originally by: Rod Blaine Lastly, the distinction between say Aridia and Stain escapes me.
I think Joshua argued the concord perspective. IE it's more claimed than stain because concord does not consider the agression in stain to validate concord intervention. Something it does in aridia.
It seems like a rather flimsy argument but works ok if you give the map the background of something official. Maybe distributet through concord.
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Rod Blaine
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Posted - 2005.10.22 16:32:00 -
[940]
Originally by: Fred0
Originally by: Rod Blaine Lastly, the distinction between say Aridia and Stain escapes me.
I think Joshua argued the concord perspective. IE it's more claimed than stain because concord does not consider the agression in stain to validate concord intervention. Something it does in aridia.
It seems like a rather flimsy argument but works ok if you give the map the background of something official. Maybe distributet through concord.
Well, I think the map is about giving players info, not about fitting into the CCP storylined background (at least, less so). And as I said, in aridia concord is not much of an issue. Check the regional layout and you'll see what i mean.
From a perspective of correctness, sovereignty can not be an argument that prevents marking an area as someone's space. Not becuase of mechanics, but because of correctness of the info the map provides.
As to our corps leaving the iga to declare more wars, like I said, we don't need to do that. And also, remember that leaving the iga has some consequences for our sovereignty in other areas.
All in all I can safely say we do not care much for the map as a tool of measuring peen. The only reason I would care is because the map provides usefull information for alot of players out there.
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John Blackthorn
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Posted - 2005.10.22 16:34:00 -
[941]
While I no longer hold any diplomatic positions and have since switched alliance many independent corps still live in the lower gemni region. There is no Coalition of Empire (COE) or Crule Intentions presence in the region.
I consider FE to be the dominate force in upper Gemni and the lower is basicly just indepedents.
The mercenary's roam through the sytems from time to time but most people just don't give them any targets. We do other things such as mine, npc hunt, and moon mining in times they are not around.
If you look at ship kills you will see that the only hot spot in the area is the entrace from empire to 0.0 which is the n-r system. And even that isn't hard to get through either.
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pershphanie
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Posted - 2005.10.22 17:26:00 -
[942]
Originally by: John Blackthorn While I no longer hold any diplomatic positions and have since switched alliance many independent corps still live in the lower gemni region. There is no Coalition of Empire (COE) or Crule Intentions presence in the region.
I consider FE to be the dominate force in upper Gemni and the lower is basicly just indepedents.
The mercenary's roam through the sytems from time to time but most people just don't give them any targets. We do other things such as mine, npc hunt, and moon mining in times they are not around.
If you look at ship kills you will see that the only hot spot in the area is the entrace from empire to 0.0 which is the n-r system. And even that isn't hard to get through either.
MC dominates central and lower germinate including FDZ. They are uncontested there. We are not fighting them for it. |

John Blackthorn
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Posted - 2005.10.22 18:42:00 -
[943]
Ok well it seems FE has spoken about the FDZ area but please do not think MC dominates the lower region because they just don't. A group of players that roam through the systems and gone 90% of the day does not dominate anything.
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Paul Castrin
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Posted - 2005.10.22 21:32:00 -
[944]
Edited by: Paul Castrin on 22/10/2005 21:34:47
Originally by: Kyle Caldrel
Originally by: Paul Castrin
Originally by: Dianabolic Sorry Josh, my bad, as previously stated a warzone is all we're asking for - however, regards claiming NPC space, there IS precedent - see Geminate, Venal, Fountain, Curse... unless you're referring to areas that are only 0.0 (of which Aridia has quite a few, but "empire" 0.0).
Anyway, something for you to perhaps consider for the future.
I'd say that if you can't change the sovereignty of a system then it can't be claimed by any save the NPC empire that already has (thus the definition of "empire" space). AFAIK Aridia even though it has .0 space is permanently marked as Amarr sovereign space and no POSes or Outposts can change that.
So using that logic, only war markers should be placed in empire space. At least until CCP changes things to allow PC alliances to take over empire space.
Honestly I have a problem with any alliance claiming space when they put no more effort to control / defend it than ganking people at gates. Unfortunately the current system is in its infancy and has a long way to go before PC alliances can truly build PC empires that mean more than just cute colors on an out of game map.
Gl, gh and hf all!
By that reasoning, NPC regions cant be calimed like Stain so on and so forth.
You are correct and I see that my logic is flawed. I didn't look at all non-empire regions and thus missed that some regions are actually heavily claimed by certain non-empire factions. Stain being one (Sansha Nation) but there are others as you note.
I guess that until PC alliances can wage proper 'war' on NPC alliances / factions and wrest control of regions from them we will be stuck with an imperfect system. Till then I'd say the only limit should be if a region is claimed by a race empire, all the rest are open season (pretty much as it already is).
At least we have a nice map to argue over. :)
Gl, gh and hf all!
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Seleene
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Posted - 2005.10.23 00:42:00 -
[945]
Originally by: John Blackthorn Ok well it seems FE has spoken about the FDZ area but please do not think MC dominates the lower region because they just don't. A group of players that roam through the systems and gone 90% of the day does not dominate anything.
Do you have any idea how many POS's in lower Geminate we have destroyed in the last two weeks? I seriously doubt it.
Upper, lower... what's the difference? When we see a dot / blob on the map, we move to investigate or kill it. Pretty simple, really. -
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Dortock
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Posted - 2005.10.23 01:30:00 -
[946]
Edited by: Dortock on 23/10/2005 01:36:11
Quote: Edited by: Seleene on 08/10/2005 10:05:38
Josh can do with the map as he sees fit. You won't see any MC in this thread in a ****ing contest about labels. The players of the area are in communication and the reality of the situation will sort itself out soon enough.
You're better than this 
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j0rz
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Posted - 2005.10.24 01:28:00 -
[947]
I don't see why alliances should be allowed to rest empire from factions, because tbh if bob go against Armarr and it's made offical, no offence but if CCP set armarr to kill any BOB, ud lose so bad, and if CCP game controllers sent armarr fleets to low sec, ud die, i think ur kidding urself tbh
But good luck, i think this move is brilliant and very stupid at the same time
Such is Life
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ElricUK
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Posted - 2005.10.24 01:55:00 -
[948]
Edited by: ElricUK on 24/10/2005 01:56:59 If BoB can achieve a lock down of the region and mantain a heavy presence there then I think the map should reflect that.
One of the nice things about EvE is that it has always been about what the players can do with the game, whether it was anticipated/expected by the devs or not. If BoB want to restle control of a region from an empire then I say its up to CCP to catch up and make changes to the game to allow it to happen (with in reason of course and not without suitable repocutions). A subject for a different thread tho perhaps 
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Mr Jack
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Posted - 2005.10.24 06:42:00 -
[949]
even so, it would be pretty cool to reflect the whole north v south situation in empire somewhow.
This could be achieved by a line in the sand, a kick ass border which roughly cuts through the universe, that'd look pretty cool, but would be hard to keep track of.
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DB Preacher
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Posted - 2005.10.24 07:19:00 -
[950]
Edited by: DB Preacher on 24/10/2005 07:20:11
Originally by: j0rz I don't see why alliances should be allowed to rest empire from factions, because tbh if bob go against Armarr and it's made offical, no offence but if CCP set armarr to kill any BOB, ud lose so bad, and if CCP game controllers sent armarr fleets to low sec, ud die, i think ur kidding urself tbh
Let me highlight the important parts of your post.
Originally by: j0rz if
Originally by: j0rz if
Originally by: j0rz if
Originally by: j0rz if
Your post has no relevance to whether or not there should be a warzone in Aridia to warn neutrals that we are killing everything there.
dbp
Current RKK Ranking: (CAL5) Kenin
Drop by and say hi in Reikoku Forums.
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Assassin 2
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Posted - 2005.10.24 07:35:00 -
[951]
Branch needs to be contested between RISK and Pheonix Alliance, Risk have taken 1 station and total sovereignity over D4R, we also have soveriegnity over BKG but dont own the station......................yet.
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j0rz
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Posted - 2005.10.24 09:57:00 -
[952]
Originally by: DB Preacher Edited by: DB Preacher on 24/10/2005 07:20:11
Originally by: j0rz I don't see why alliances should be allowed to rest empire from factions, because tbh if bob go against Armarr and it's made offical, no offence but if CCP set armarr to kill any BOB, ud lose so bad, and if CCP game controllers sent armarr fleets to low sec, ud die, i think ur kidding urself tbh
Let me highlight the important parts of your post.
Originally by: j0rz if
Originally by: j0rz if
Originally by: j0rz if
Originally by: j0rz if
Your post has no relevance to whether or not there should be a warzone in Aridia to warn neutrals that we are killing everything there.
dbp
Its not ur space and nor will it ever be
Such is Life
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DoctorGonzo
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Posted - 2005.10.24 10:18:00 -
[953]
Originally by: j0rz
Originally by: DB Preacher Edited by: DB Preacher on 24/10/2005 07:20:11
Originally by: j0rz I don't see why alliances should be allowed to rest empire from factions, because tbh if bob go against Armarr and it's made offical, no offence but if CCP set armarr to kill any BOB, ud lose so bad, and if CCP game controllers sent armarr fleets to low sec, ud die, i think ur kidding urself tbh
Let me highlight the important parts of your post.
Originally by: j0rz if
Originally by: j0rz if
Originally by: j0rz if
Originally by: j0rz if
Your post has no relevance to whether or not there should be a warzone in Aridia to warn neutrals that we are killing everything there.
dbp
Its not ur space and nor will it ever be
Depends on how factional warfare is implemented so, never say never, it could one day belong to BoB and not the Amarr Empire, but I suppose that discussions for another thread!
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DB Preacher
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Posted - 2005.10.24 12:51:00 -
[954]
Originally by: j0rz Its not ur space and nor will it ever be
And at no point have we tried to claim it.
Please read before wasting bw, Thanks, dbp
Current RKK Ranking: (CAL5) Kenin
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John Blackthorn
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Posted - 2005.10.24 16:02:00 -
[955]
I'd like to applogize to the residence of the upper Gemni region. It seems I was wrong in my assumptions of the FDZ area. I had thought FE was still there but have been corrected on these forms as well as several polite eve mails.
From now on I'll just limit my observations to the lower gemni o-v to atioth area. Which has a mixture of eight to ten indendent corps.
We regonize the upper Gemni being part of 4s, the Great Wildlands being part of -v-, and Cache/Insomother being part of Red Alliance.
-BT
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batardion
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Posted - 2005.10.24 16:43:00 -
[956]
Do NBSI still wage war in GW as the map says? What do they say?
Similarly do "Foundation" corps believe that they are in a position to wage war there? (as opposed to being awarded a "pirate infestation" marker for say 01:00 - 03:00 GMT)
I am not saying this is or isnt the case just asking for their honest opinion if they feel like giving it. 
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pershphanie
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Posted - 2005.10.24 17:55:00 -
[957]
MC has left geminate and it is once again property of the forsaken empire. |

Seleene
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Posted - 2005.10.24 18:15:00 -
[958]
Originally by: John Blackthorn I'd like to applogize to the residence of the upper Gemni region. It seems I was wrong
You should have stopped right there, TBH.  -
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Qwynn
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Posted - 2005.10.24 20:00:00 -
[959]
Are we going to get a map update anytime soon? 
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dimitri karamazov
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Posted - 2005.10.24 21:09:00 -
[960]
zomfg i want a map update now!
its been almost 20 days, dont make me start a new map maker thread!
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Kyle Caldrel
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Posted - 2005.10.24 21:23:00 -
[961]
Originally by: dimitri karamazov zomfg i want a map update now!
its been almost 20 days, dont make me start a new map maker thread!
Stop using alts.
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Maggot
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Posted - 2005.10.25 04:43:00 -
[962]
Providence is now under attack by Ushra'khan. No POS yet destroyed but three in re-inforced.
Also seems to be a lot of pirate trouble there - RAT from the HED side in Huzzah space and Priory & TSBS from R3-k.
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Joshua Foiritain
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Posted - 2005.10.25 09:13:00 -
[963]
Originally by: dimitri karamazov zomfg i want a map update now!
its been almost 20 days, dont make me start a new map maker thread!
Go ahead, school deadlines come first, plus still waiting on 3 answers from alliances. ------------------
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pershphanie
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Posted - 2005.10.25 09:21:00 -
[964]
Originally by: Joshua Foiritain
Originally by: dimitri karamazov zomfg i want a map update now!
its been almost 20 days, dont make me start a new map maker thread!
Go ahead, school deadlines come first, plus still waiting on 3 answers from alliances.
Lets keep in mind Joshua has updated the map more frequently than any other previous map maker. some slack is deserved. |

Seleene
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Posted - 2005.10.25 11:30:00 -
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Joshua's map and attention to detail rules. Personally, I think a once a month update is just fine. Only groups with "staying power" deserve a spot on it anyway. -
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Cartiff
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Posted - 2005.10.25 11:47:00 -
[966]
we're still on the map, wow
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Seleene
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Posted - 2005.10.25 12:33:00 -
[967]
Originally by: Cartiff we're still on the map, wow
You've been holding it upside down again, haven't you? -
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Joshua Foiritain
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Posted - 2005.10.25 16:01:00 -
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Yaarrr both Project and Map done, uploading new one atm.
No warzone markers on empire space for the North vs south war, mainly as it does not affect the local population in any way due to concord protection. However a warzone marker placed on Aridia as it does affect the local populace ie by them dieing at the hands of Bob 
Red Alliance got big btw 
Bunch of new warzones added here and there, i think ive got them all... Little bit of region ownership changes too.
Scream if i missed anything.
@ the Mods, everything up to this point can be deleted. ------------------
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Narciss Sevar
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Posted - 2005.10.25 16:20:00 -
[969]
Just thought i'd mention its Risk fighting PA up in branch and that we have soveriegnity over one constellation so far. But meh. --------
A pretty girl can kiss a guy, a bird can kiss a butterfly. Teh rising sun can kiss the grass, but you my friend can kiss my A**E! |

Babs Johnson
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Posted - 2005.10.25 16:36:00 -
[970]
Originally by: Joshua Foiritain
Scream if i missed anything.
/emote screams.
:)
I sent you an EVEmail a while back, but if your inbox is anything like mine, I understand if you missed it.
Ekliptika is in constellation K-QUVW in Pure Blind. We've been there for about two months and we light up 5 of the six systems there.
Thanks.
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Blitzmoon
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Posted - 2005.10.25 16:50:00 -
[971]
About Tenerifis
You sure that RA is claming it ?
You got some MWA ppl living there after 5 left it.
Maybee some from RA should confirm this
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DrunkenOne
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Posted - 2005.10.25 17:09:00 -
[972]
cosmic fusion 4tw
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LoxyRider
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Posted - 2005.10.25 17:16:00 -
[973]
Dont know their stance towards each other but the Tenerifis stations are held by miners with attiude. Apart from that looks good.
Cosmic fusion on the map?  Are RA actually fighting for Geminate? 
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danneh
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Posted - 2005.10.25 17:17:00 -
[974]
Branch is contested on behalf on the R.I.S.K Alliance we have secured 1 station.
Thanks.
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Amthrianius
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Posted - 2005.10.25 17:26:00 -
[975]
/me wonders what Josh was smoking when he did stain  ---------------
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maria stallion
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Posted - 2005.10.25 17:49:00 -
[976]
Edited by: maria stallion on 25/10/2005 17:49:31 The marker RA vs F-E in Geminate is incorrect I believe.
We helped RA out and we got a plus standing with them. The rest looks good from what I know, goodjob joshua.
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Carth Jared
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Posted - 2005.10.25 17:52:00 -
[977]
You can remove Warzone no. 11 dude
ATUK | The 5
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Camador
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Posted - 2005.10.25 18:22:00 -
[978]
Edited by: Camador on 25/10/2005 18:23:31 What, cosmic fusion controls western stain?
I humbly request that control of 37S-KO in stain be given over to us.
also, I believe some sort of warzone or hostile marker for ASCN space is needed. As multiple pirate groups and other alliances are hitting their space quite hard. Both In impass and a lesser extent, lower feyth. ______________________________
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benwallace
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Posted - 2005.10.25 19:00:00 -
[979]
top answer the cosmic fusion part we do we kicked out the stain there and made it our backyard playing catch and such and if anyone wants a npcing pass contact me ---------------------------------------------------
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Camador
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Posted - 2005.10.25 19:12:00 -
[980]
Well same here then. we kicked out SA from 37s and now base there. Some of us npc there and nobody comes to bother us.
You can even apply at our office in 37s! ______________________________
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Fargas
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Posted - 2005.10.25 19:23:00 -
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Tenerifis is populated by MWA alliance, not RED. Also we have + to F-E and have little to no interest in geminate
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zcinner
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Posted - 2005.10.25 19:24:00 -
[982]
we own space !!
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Righteous Fury
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Posted - 2005.10.25 20:09:00 -
[983]
I think you're missing a couple of numbered warzones on the map, namely IMP vs BOB (#9). That war is pretty much encompassed by BOB vs Aridia locals, so do with it what you will.
Nice work.
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FolkoDemon
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Posted - 2005.10.25 20:55:00 -
[984]
Edited by: FolkoDemon on 25/10/2005 20:56:42 Edited by: FolkoDemon on 25/10/2005 20:56:26
Originally by: benwallace top answer the cosmic fusion part we do we kicked out the stain there and made it our backyard playing catch and such and if anyone wants a npcing pass contact me
U did what?? Who are u guys in first place?? Why do i learn bout your presence in Stain from map, and why u are even listed there claiming our space??  -----
Quote: This world is made of Love & Peace! V. t. S.
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Kyle Caldrel
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Posted - 2005.10.25 21:02:00 -
[985]
Originally by: FolkoDemon Edited by: FolkoDemon on 25/10/2005 20:56:42 Edited by: FolkoDemon on 25/10/2005 20:56:26
Originally by: benwallace top answer the cosmic fusion part we do we kicked out the stain there and made it our backyard playing catch and such and if anyone wants a npcing pass contact me
U did what?? Who are u guys in first place?? Why do i learn bout your presence in Stain from map, and why u are even listed there claiming our space?? 
Because you arnt out here with us?
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FolkoDemon
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Posted - 2005.10.25 21:05:00 -
[986]
And it's enuf? Then I officially claim Tribute, cuz i'm mostly alone when I'm there. -----
Quote: This world is made of Love & Peace! V. t. S.
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Joshua Foiritain
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Posted - 2005.10.25 21:10:00 -
[987]
Originally by: danneh Branch is contested on behalf on the R.I.S.K Alliance we have secured 1 station.
Thanks.
Having some trouble finding it, all stations seems PA owned apart from your POS in D4R.
Originally by: Amthrianius /me wonders what Josh was smoking when he did stain 
Plastic 
Originally by: Camador Well same here then. we kicked out SA from 37s and now base there. Some of us npc there and nobody comes to bother us.
You can even apply at our office in 37s!
Noted.
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DrunkenOne
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Posted - 2005.10.25 21:18:00 -
[988]
Originally by: FolkoDemon Edited by: FolkoDemon on 25/10/2005 20:56:42 Edited by: FolkoDemon on 25/10/2005 20:56:26
Originally by: benwallace top answer the cosmic fusion part we do we kicked out the stain there and made it our backyard playing catch and such and if anyone wants a npcing pass contact me
U did what?? Who are u guys in first place?? Why do i learn bout your presence in Stain from map, and why u are even listed there claiming our space?? 
       
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Cpt Pugwash
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Posted - 2005.10.25 21:27:00 -
[989]
Still not marked Fountain as contested?
VC have controlled 3WE-D4 for months and have had a large force in Fountain core systems for 4 weeks.
We fight Xelas and Bob in fountain on a daily basis.
Bob announce they are attacking Aridia and you give them a war zone marker within a week, VC fight in Fountain every day for months and cannot get contested space.
I think it is time for a more objective map maker
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FolkoDemon
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Posted - 2005.10.25 21:27:00 -
[990]
Edited by: FolkoDemon on 25/10/2005 21:27:50
Originally by: Joshua Foiritain
Originally by: Camador Well same here then. we kicked out SA from 37s and now base there. Some of us npc there and nobody comes to bother us.
You can even apply at our office in 37s!
Noted.
Errr... You've got to be kidding me, U are taking that as their space only because they have their 5 full stabbed ravens there once every few days, that are so insignificant and at the same time so hard to kill that we don't bother to chase em? Josh please tell me that's not tru? -----
Quote: This world is made of Love & Peace! V. t. S.[/i]
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FalloutBoy
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Posted - 2005.10.25 21:30:00 -
[991]
Originally by: FolkoDemon Edited by: FolkoDemon on 25/10/2005 20:56:42 Edited by: FolkoDemon on 25/10/2005 20:56:26
Originally by: benwallace top answer the cosmic fusion part we do we kicked out the stain there and made it our backyard playing catch and such and if anyone wants a npcing pass contact me
U did what?? Who are u guys in first place?? Why do i learn bout your presence in Stain from map, and why u are even listed there claiming our space?? 
Your too busy hiding from XB to know whats going on in your own space 
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thebold
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Posted - 2005.10.25 21:34:00 -
[992]
To Cosmic Fusion.. We have no idea who you are.. and you found a hole in stain.. Congratz. All pvpers get bored of chaining sometime and go somewhere else to shoot things:) ==============================================
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thebold
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Posted - 2005.10.25 21:44:00 -
[993]
Edited by: thebold on 25/10/2005 21:45:12
Originally by: DrunkenOne
We dont really care if blobbing alliances "have no idea who we are," better luck with the flame next time.
.. Enjoy your hole.
But its Stain Space not yours ;) the map is wrong thats like saying. We moved in no sa here (yet Soon TM') we will claim it. ==============================================
The Boom Board |

Kyle Caldrel
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Posted - 2005.10.25 21:51:00 -
[994]
Originally by: thebold Edited by: thebold on 25/10/2005 21:45:12
Originally by: DrunkenOne
We dont really care if blobbing alliances "have no idea who we are," better luck with the flame next time.
.. Enjoy your hole.
But its Stain Space not yours ;) the map is wrong thats like saying. We moved in no sa here (yet Soon TM') we will claim it.
How is the map wrong? you have no pressence there aside from PSI, who have quickly learned to leave the area alone. We have been out there for 2 months and not seen one responce from SA/SE/anyone
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benwallace
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Posted - 2005.10.25 21:52:00 -
[995]
Originally by: thebold Edited by: thebold on 25/10/2005 21:45:12
Originally by: DrunkenOne
We dont really care if blobbing alliances "have no idea who we are," better luck with the flame next time.
.. Enjoy your hole.
But its Stain Space not yours ;) the map is wrong thats like saying. We moved in no sa here (yet Soon TM') we will claim it.
no your wrong there were sa(ps.i) we kicked them out and we chain your alliance ok our pvpers > your pvpers(miners) if your so bold on your statement come down and back it up ---------------------------------------------------
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Kate Moss
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Posted - 2005.10.25 21:52:00 -
[996]
Originally by: DrunkenOne
Originally by: thebold To Cosmic Fusion.. We have no idea who you are.. and you found a hole in stain.. Congratz. All pvpers get bored of chaining sometime and go somewhere else to shoot things:)
We dont really care if blobbing alliances "have no idea who we are," better luck with the flame next time.
Translation = We can't consistenly field 10-man gangs
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Camador
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Posted - 2005.10.25 21:57:00 -
[997]
Same here, We knocked off a PSI freighter one day and thats about all weve seen of SA around these parts.
if cosmic fusion can claim that space because of...
1. No SA response or prescence 2. SA getting their asses handed to them when they try
then they should claim it.
(same for 37s-ko. its burn eden space ) ______________________________
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DrunkenOne
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Posted - 2005.10.25 22:01:00 -
[998]
Edited by: DrunkenOne on 25/10/2005 22:03:50
Originally by: Kate Moss Translation = We can't consistenly field 10-man gangs
Awwwwwww upset that all the pretty space that used to be 5's is now RA's?
Originally by: thebold
.. Enjoy your hole.
But its Stain Space not yours ;) the map is wrong thats like saying. We moved in no sa here (yet Soon TM') we will claim it.
...thats exactly what we are saying. We moved in, theres no one there, so we are claiming it. Oh its being enjoyed... and its no hole... officer spawns 4tw. 
Originally by: Camador Same here, We knocked off a PSI freighter one day and thats about all weve seen of SA around these parts.
if cosmic fusion can claim that space because of...
1. No SA response or prescence 2. SA getting their asses handed to them when they try
then they should claim it.
(same for 37s-ko. its burn eden space )
Yeah I dont really see how you can say "its SA space, we just dont have anyone there ever to actually physically claim it, but, uh... its ours."
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thebold
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Posted - 2005.10.25 22:01:00 -
[999]
OK i understand: A Group of PVP'ers have moved into this SA corner on the map. They have been there for 2 months now~...
You claim the surrounding systems based souly on the fact the rest of SA is currently living in Empire fighting another war.
OK.
Now if i move a few pvp corps in to populate the area and make it there permanent residence within Stain your claim will become irrelevant. Situation Solved.
33 Man corp Max gang numbers Estimate 20 - 15 more than 2 corps is over kill ==============================================
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Camador
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Posted - 2005.10.25 22:04:00 -
[1000]
Originally by: thebold OK i understand: A Group of PVP'ers have moved into this SA corner on the map. They have been there for 2 months now~...
You claim the surrounding systems based souly on the fact the rest of SA is currently living in Empire fighting another war.
OK.
Now if i move a few pvp corps in to populate the area and make it there permanent residence within Stain your claim will become irrelevant. Situation Solved.
33 Man corp Max gang numbers Estimate 20 - 15 more than 2 corps is over kill
So do it. I see MASS has the same problem as ASND.
You guys can talk the talk, but cant walk the walk.
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FalloutBoy
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Posted - 2005.10.25 22:06:00 -
[1001]
Originally by: thebold OK i understand: A Group of PVP'ers have moved into this SA corner on the map. They have been there for 2 months now~...
You claim the surrounding systems based souly on the fact the rest of SA is currently living in Empire fighting another war.
OK.
Now if i move a few pvp corps in to populate the area and make it there permanent residence within Stain your claim will become irrelevant. Situation Solved.
33 Man corp Max gang numbers Estimate 20 - 15 more than 2 corps is over kill
SA has pvp corps?
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Avatar Ashlee
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Posted - 2005.10.25 22:09:00 -
[1002]
SA was in an empire war 2 months ago?
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FalloutBoy
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Posted - 2005.10.25 22:12:00 -
[1003]
Originally by: Avatar Ashlee SA was in an empire war 2 months ago?
yah tey got slaughterd
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Dianabolic
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Posted - 2005.10.25 22:34:00 -
[1004]
Originally by: Cpt Pugwash I think it is time for a more objective map maker
lmao.
Here we go again, oh look, one of the people that whined last time.
If you're gonna object, pugwash, then fine, but calling for a replacement mapmaker because he doesn't meet YOUR agenda?
Lame.
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Nick Curso
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Posted - 2005.10.25 22:41:00 -
[1005]
Fallout i remember u flying under bolds command many tinmes and not complaining. U dont like someone fair enough but disrespecting anothers abilitys wen u know better is childish.
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Tamora
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Posted - 2005.10.25 22:51:00 -
[1006]
everyone knows maxsuicide packs teh fudge anyway.
I would have a sig here but they always get removed...
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Rasitiln
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Posted - 2005.10.25 23:18:00 -
[1007]
branch should be contested by RISK alliance....and the northern portion should be claimed by Risk as we have the station.
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Trepkos
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Posted - 2005.10.25 23:20:00 -
[1008]
Stain,
Nice hole, We'll take it. ---------------- Cosmic Fusion Killboard
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Creamster
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Posted - 2005.10.25 23:31:00 -
[1009]
Originally by: thebold
Now if i move a few pvp corps in to populate the area and make it there permanent residence within Stain your claim will become irrelevant. Situation Solved.
Do it. While on it move other pvp corps to 4gq. p.s. Joshua, afaik Virii are not fighting SE in Stain. Haven't seen them for quite some time. ___________ 2005.09.04:"After the 7 days SE corporations will be removed from the said regions" (Q) XB killboard |

Alasse Cuthalion
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Posted - 2005.10.25 23:52:00 -
[1010]
Edited by: Alasse Cuthalion on 25/10/2005 23:52:21
Originally by: Cpt Pugwash Still not marked Fountain as contested?
VC have controlled 3WE-D4 for months and have had a large force in Fountain core systems for 4 weeks.
We fight Xelas and Bob in fountain on a daily basis.
Bob announce they are attacking Aridia and you give them a war zone marker within a week, VC fight in Fountain every day for months and cannot get contested space.
I think it is time for a more objective map maker
That's because Fountain is infact, about as contested as my title as "international sex god".
Your little raiding parties constitute little more than a minor ***** in our collective arse.
Every time VC tries anything warranting a response from us they're crushed, see POS in mn5n, what was it? 12hrs before it was in reinforced mode and no one could be arsed to come and defend it?
Nothing to see here, move along.
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FalloutBoy
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Posted - 2005.10.26 00:10:00 -
[1011]
Originally by: Nick Curso Fallout i remember u flying under bolds command many tinmes and not complaining. U dont like someone fair enough but disrespecting anothers abilitys wen u know better is childish.
bold is a perfectly competent fleet comander. but not a ruler of an alliance. and its just fun to push his buttons :P
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Nick Curso
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Posted - 2005.10.26 00:28:00 -
[1012]
lol i have to agree pising bold off is fun :)
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FalloutBoy
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Posted - 2005.10.26 00:29:00 -
[1013]
Originally by: Nick Curso lol i have to agree pising bold off is fun :)
oh **** we agree on something...quick insult me this can't happen
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Nick Curso
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Posted - 2005.10.26 00:31:00 -
[1014]
err err errr u smell.
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Schroni
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Posted - 2005.10.26 02:50:00 -
[1015]
atleast a little warzone marker would have been nice for Branch  ---
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Vince Draken
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Posted - 2005.10.26 03:38:00 -
[1016]
Quality work as usual.
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Mang0o
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Posted - 2005.10.26 03:48:00 -
[1017]
Edited by: Mang0o on 26/10/2005 03:49:04 Brun eden is right, Its not the size of the corp or alliance we still have the right to claim a space and we did, SA and SE dont really care, thay dont use that part of space and dont even "own" stain yet thay are still fighting for it.. thay will not really care about that litel "hole" of ours.. The only pepole that has been around to fight us is PS.I, and i think thay left now.. have not seen them for a while.. 
btw we like being close to FIX space.. it makes us feel all warm inside..   
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Laythun
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Posted - 2005.10.26 03:55:00 -
[1018]
when we see SA 'pvp'ers' comin to take that part of stain. we'll be there ready. were pvp'ers we live for it. that space is ours till someone tries to take it.
an alliance with no [resence has no claim to it, just 'saying' its urs isnt enough im afraid.
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shivan
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Posted - 2005.10.26 05:34:00 -
[1019]
I think this is heliours, after being in Stain in one form or another for over 2 years I was on the inside, and I vehmently denined any accusations that Stain was under control of anyone else other than the current rulling Alliance/Empire.
Now Im on the outside looking in and I just think its pathetic the way SA says "oh, we stick 30 men corp and you go bye bye."
If its so easy, do it!!!
Geez, at least then when someone in SA puffs out there chest and beats on it and goes, "I'm so uber, look at my pecks", some one might take notice.
Stop all the smack about XB snipe and ECM, and Burn Eden fly stabbed up ravens.
Big Whop de ******* do dar.
Then if they do that, blob them for a month solid and force them out.
Use the one advantage you guys have left and put guns on your miners apocs. 
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Jaqs
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Posted - 2005.10.26 05:49:00 -
[1020]
Yall suppose ot smack in other parts of forums not here and its been asked by moderators not too. offical non bs info. not flapping of the mouths lmao.
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Berak FalCheran
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Posted - 2005.10.26 06:00:00 -
[1021]
Originally by: Dianabolic
Originally by: Cpt Pugwash I think it is time for a more objective map maker
lmao.
Here we go again, oh look, one of the people that whined last time.
If you're gonna object, pugwash, then fine, but calling for a replacement mapmaker because he doesn't meet YOUR agenda?
Lame.
omg - agreeing with dianabolic. (hell freezes over)
we have a great map maker, even if that last update was a little slow ::wink:: -- but seriously, he's good, timely and unbiased so stfu.
Originally by: Malthros Zenobia In short: Cry me a river, build a bridge, and get over it.
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Mang0o
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Posted - 2005.10.26 06:23:00 -
[1022]
Originally by: shivan
Stop all the smack about XB snipe and ECM, and Burn Eden fly stabbed up ravens.
Well it looks like there fitting works fine.. thay are killing alot of pepole.. dont whine about someones fitting on the forums 
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Vince Draken
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Posted - 2005.10.26 06:50:00 -
[1023]
Com'mon guys, lets not pollute this thread. Even though it's probably gonna be cleaned very soon you should leave this thread for what it's meant for. Smalking your enemies isnt one of the purposes.
For Shame...
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Vishnej
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Posted - 2005.10.26 08:13:00 -
[1024]
Edited by: Vishnej on 26/10/2005 08:13:46 Edited by: Vishnej on 26/10/2005 08:13:34 F-E, PA, and NBSI are fighting R.I.S.K. in Tribute, Venal, and Branch as they try to support their new station - deserves a warzone somewhere in there(at least, more than the [5] do in Tribute - with the war on I would turn that into [5], -V-, [SA], R.I.S.K.). ----------------- T2 Destroyers: a proposal |

Blacklight
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Posted - 2005.10.26 08:30:00 -
[1025]
Originally by: Cpt Pugwash Still not marked Fountain as contested?
VC have controlled 3WE-D4 for months and have had a large force in Fountain core systems for 4 weeks.
We fight Xelas and Bob in fountain on a daily basis.
Bob announce they are attacking Aridia and you give them a war zone marker within a week, VC fight in Fountain every day for months and cannot get contested space.
I think it is time for a more objective map maker
Awwww.... bless /pats Pugwash on the head. 'sup crybaby, it finally sinking in that your lil' ol' piwate tactics are never going to change the map?
Instead of crying for a new mapmaker why don't you try some new tactics and actually contest the regions you want?
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Eteoneus
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Posted - 2005.10.26 08:55:00 -
[1026]
I just wonder why -V- (including me) is still fighting Foundation in their space. There's not much Foundation left to fight except a hand of people hugging N-DQ station. ---
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Joshua Foiritain
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Posted - 2005.10.26 08:57:00 -
[1027]
Originally by: FolkoDemon Errr... You've got to be kidding me, U are taking that as their space only because they have their 5 full stabbed ravens there once every few days, that are so insignificant and at the same time so hard to kill that we don't bother to chase em? Josh please tell me that's not tru?
As i said, its been noted and will be looked at. Just because their combat tactics are not as heroic as other alliance tactics doesnt really make their claim any less valid. 
Originally by: Cpt Pugwash Still not marked Fountain as contested?
VC have controlled 3WE-D4 for months and have had a large force in Fountain core systems for 4 weeks.
We fight Xelas and Bob in fountain on a daily basis.
Bob announce they are attacking Aridia and you give them a war zone marker within a week, VC fight in Fountain every day for months and cannot get contested space.
During my tour in Fountain 1.5 weeks ago i found quite a few bobs and a lot of Xelas. I also found 2 VC's and 1 FAer and 2 neutrals. Aridia on the other hand as an obvious hostile Bob presence... ------------------
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IcedBach Jr
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Posted - 2005.10.26 09:24:00 -
[1028]
Wait, these BE idiots, 6 man corp and cosmic smth that noone know lay a claim and get it right away since they find some **** hole but SA cant get the region even though XB mostly are in empire atm.
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Laythun
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Posted - 2005.10.26 09:50:00 -
[1029]
Originally by: IcedBach Jr Wait, these BE idiots, 6 man corp and cosmic smth that noone know lay a claim and get it right away since they find some **** hole but SA cant get the region even though XB mostly are in empire atm.
This map maker is biased.
stop flaming this thread ffs. why do u have to be 'well known' to claim anything??? is not your presence in force enough? is not being there on a daily basis and not seeing anyone else enough, is not killing the residents and forcing them too move enough? and why keep dissing the space we claim?? stop flaming the map maker, if u dont want us to lay claim to it, get ur shiny bs and come see us.
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Eddie Gordo
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Posted - 2005.10.26 10:39:00 -
[1030]
Incase maggots statement was missed, amongst all the bickering 
The Ushra'khan has started a full scale campaign against Huzzah Fedaration in Providence, aswell as the CVA. For now I would show it as a warzone, definatly not contested yet but time will tell 
Now recruiting
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Aussie Trader
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Posted - 2005.10.26 10:54:00 -
[1031]
Trolling the forums every day is a shoe-in for claiming space, then?
Gee, I better get on with it ! 
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Aquiesse Erus
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Posted - 2005.10.26 12:19:00 -
[1032]
\o/ Yay for a BoB Fanboy as the map-maker, Go JC!
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DoctorGonzo
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Posted - 2005.10.26 12:32:00 -
[1033]
Originally by: Aquiesse Erus \o/ Yay for a BoB Fanboy as the map-maker, Go JC!
I think if anyone's a Fanboi at the moment it's you Mr Alty! You just can't stop flaming and trolling today can you?

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Aquiesse Erus
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Posted - 2005.10.26 12:50:00 -
[1034]
Originally by: DoctorGonzo
Originally by: Aquiesse Erus \o/ Yay for a BoB Fanboy as the map-maker, Go JC!
I think if anyone's a Fanboi at the moment it's you Mr Alty! You just can't stop flaming and trolling today can you?

Flaming would be being disrespectful. Is being a bob fanboi a bad thing? Is that me being disrespectful? Is that what you are implying sir?
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Joshua Foiritain
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Posted - 2005.10.26 13:50:00 -
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Originally by: Vishnej Edited by: Vishnej on 26/10/2005 08:19:20 F-E, PA, and NBSI are fighting R.I.S.K. in Tribute, Venal, and Branch as they try to support their new station - deserves a warzone somewhere in there at least as much as [5]. [5], -V-, and SA deserve it equally, though I'd prefer the marker be over lonetrek.
Aye, forgot about that. Im still having trouble finding the station though?
Originally by: IcedBach Jr Wait, these BE idiots, 6 man corp and cosmic smth that noone know lay a claim and get it right away since they find some **** hole but SA cant get the region even though XB mostly are in empire atm.
So fly down there and kick them out, if XB and the other Se corps are in empire you should have the time to do so anyway no?
Originally by: Aquiesse Erus \o/ Yay for a BoB Fanboy as the map-maker, Go JC!
JC? Surely you mean JF?
Originally by: Eteoneus I just wonder why -V- (including me) is still fighting Foundation in their space. There's not much Foundation left to fight except a hand of people hugging N-DQ station.
Will look into it.
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Laythun
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Posted - 2005.10.26 13:50:00 -
[1036]
STOP flaming ffs.
omg let the man make his maps.
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Nez Perces
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Posted - 2005.10.26 14:04:00 -
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Bah.... Josh comes across as very objective and level headed mapmaker... keep up the good work.
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Kinsy
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Posted - 2005.10.26 14:27:00 -
[1038]
Please Add:-
BoB vs Unassociated
Exuro Mortis vs Unassociated
IMP vs Exuro Mortis
All happening in the Aridia region.
Were not locals in Aridia...
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Paul Castrin
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Posted - 2005.10.26 14:43:00 -
[1039]
Originally by: Joshua Foiritain
Originally by: Cpt Pugwash Still not marked Fountain as contested?
VC have controlled 3WE-D4 for months and have had a large force in Fountain core systems for 4 weeks.
We fight Xelas and Bob in fountain on a daily basis.
Bob announce they are attacking Aridia and you give them a war zone marker within a week, VC fight in Fountain every day for months and cannot get contested space.
During my tour in Fountain 1.5 weeks ago i found quite a few bobs and a lot of Xelas. I also found 2 VC's and 1 FAer and 2 neutrals. Aridia on the other hand as an obvious hostile Bob presence...
It's an understandable mistake to think that Fountain is not contested. Since you don't say when you went there it's quite possible that you didn't see many VC around. The area has a noticeable ebe and flow that I think you have missed but being that your just one person, like I said, it's understandable.
We have refused to play BoB's game. Blobing is not winning control of a region, but having multiple systems not 'safe' for our enemies to travel through is. Currently we have major forces in core which are keeping BoB in station during our time (note: one problem, and this happened in the BoB vs FA war, is that differing timezones are playing a major factor in the region). Forces in other areas of Fountain are set to harass and impede any enemies from travailing safely through. As for Aridia, honestly we don't worry about it. Its Empire space, and a nice vacation area, but hardly of any more interest than that.
On a personal note I think your doing a fine job as map maker. I had to do a similar 'job' in another game that had a strategic element to it so I know what youÆre up against. Keep up the good work and we'll try to keep you on your toes. 
Peace.
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DB Preacher
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Posted - 2005.10.26 14:59:00 -
[1040]
Originally by: Paul Castrin
Originally by: Joshua Foiritain
Originally by: Cpt Pugwash Still not marked Fountain as contested?
VC have controlled 3WE-D4 for months and have had a large force in Fountain core systems for 4 weeks.
We fight Xelas and Bob in fountain on a daily basis.
Bob announce they are attacking Aridia and you give them a war zone marker within a week, VC fight in Fountain every day for months and cannot get contested space.
During my tour in Fountain 1.5 weeks ago i found quite a few bobs and a lot of Xelas. I also found 2 VC's and 1 FAer and 2 neutrals. Aridia on the other hand as an obvious hostile Bob presence...
It's an understandable mistake to think that Fountain is not contested. Since you don't say when you went there it's quite possible that you didn't see many VC around. The area has a noticeable ebe and flow that I think you have missed but being that your just one person, like I said, it's understandable.
We have refused to play BoB's game. Blobing is not winning control of a region, but having multiple systems not 'safe' for our enemies to travel through is. Currently we have major forces in core which are keeping BoB in station during our time (note: one problem, and this happened in the BoB vs FA war, is that differing timezones are playing a major factor in the region). Forces in other areas of Fountain are set to harass and impede any enemies from travailing safely through. As for Aridia, honestly we don't worry about it. Its Empire space, and a nice vacation area, but hardly of any more interest than that.
On a personal note I think your doing a fine job as map maker. I had to do a similar 'job' in another game that had a strategic element to it so I know what youÆre up against. Keep up the good work and we'll try to keep you on your toes. 
Peace.
You are not contesting Fountain. You have not came in, stuck your flag down and said "this is ours".
You know you can't do that because you do not have the forces to do that.
If you did, you would have done it.
That is why there is a warzone in Fountain and not a contested region.
dbp
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Righteous Fury
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Posted - 2005.10.26 15:42:00 -
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Originally by: Aquiesse Erus \o/ Yay for a BoB Fanboy as the map-maker, Go JC!
I remember being accused of this as well - Josh, I trust you recieved my propaganda mail? 
Keep up the good work.
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danneh
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Posted - 2005.10.26 15:50:00 -
[1042]
To see the R.I.S.K claimed station do info on S******dly corporation.
P.S sorry for late response i had isp issues .
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Paul Castrin
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Posted - 2005.10.26 16:59:00 -
[1043]
Edited by: Paul Castrin on 26/10/2005 17:00:13
Originally by: DB Preacher You are not contesting Fountain. You have not came in, stuck your flag down and said "this is ours".
You know you can't do that because you do not have the forces to do that.
If you did, you would have done it.
That is why there is a warzone in Fountain and not a contested region.
dbp
Respectfully I disagree:
v. conòtestòed, conòtestòing, conòtests (kn-tst, kntst) v. tr. 1. To compete or strive for. 2. To call into question and take an active stand against; dispute or challenge: contest a will. See Synonyms: oppose.
Considering that on a daily basis control moves back and forth and that VC and BoB meet often to hammer on one another IMHO that is the very definition of contesting the control of the region.
Also I'd like to point out that BoB has no "flags" in Fountain. Xelas yes but BoB no. A blob is not a flag. As for VC having a flag I guess we do but the powers above me continually say that we are a mobile force, more for attacking and PvP than holding territory. Just because they say that however doesn't mean we don't view Fountain as our home.
In any case you have your pov and we have ours. I respect BoB as a powerful enemy but that doesn't mean I won't pitch our case to the map maker. If he leaves Fountain as BoB controlled then so be it but that won't change the fact that VC is there in force (whatever force we can or are willing to commit at any given time).
Peace.
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DB Preacher
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Posted - 2005.10.26 17:14:00 -
[1044]
Edited by: DB Preacher on 26/10/2005 17:16:34 In the same way that using the dictionary definition of pirate for this game, the dictionary definition of contested doesn't work.
Please read JF's initial post on the front for his official take on it.
And in your own words... you are a mobile force, how can you hold territory?
Thinking a place is your home is not the same as actually holding territory because if that was the case then please, mark BKG as mine on the map because my heart will always belong to it.
thanks, dbp
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Paul Castrin
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Posted - 2005.10.26 17:28:00 -
[1045]
Originally by: DB Preacher Edited by: DB Preacher on 26/10/2005 17:16:34 In the same way that using the dictionary definition of pirate for this game, the dictionary definition of contested doesn't work.
Please read JF's initial post on the front for his official take on it.
And in your own words... you are a mobile force, how can you hold territory?
Thinking a place is your home is not the same as actually holding territory because if that was the case then please, mark BKG as mine on the map because my heart will always belong to it.
thanks, dbp
We agree to disagree, 'nuff said.
Further comment will only result in flames (from you or other BoB members) so I'll not go further. I've made my point as well as I could, dismiss it if you wish.
Gl gh and hf all.
Peace.
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John Blackthorn
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Posted - 2005.10.26 18:07:00 -
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Johsh Thanks for the map, I'm sure it's difficult to decifer all of the posts.
What guildlines are we using to mark territory?
Shouldn't it be that a near 24 hour presents, along with a conqurable and pos sovernty determine the map lines? And if a force is in the area contesting that is also there near 24 hours would be marked contested?
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Leno
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Posted - 2005.10.26 18:33:00 -
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Originally by: IcedBach Jr Wait, these BE idiots, 6 man corp and cosmic smth that noone know lay a claim and get it right away since they find some **** hole but SA cant get the region even though XB mostly are in empire atm.
This map maker is biased.
The corp has me in it ffs! What more do you need!?  ---------------
RIP - Smoske, My Friend
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John Blackthorn
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Posted - 2005.10.26 20:23:00 -
[1048]
Edited by: John Blackthorn on 26/10/2005 20:23:52 Snip - Delete Me
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pershphanie
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Posted - 2005.10.26 20:53:00 -
[1049]
Originally by: Joshua Foiritain
Forsaken Empire is capturing Smash space.
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Entschlossen
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Posted - 2005.10.26 21:25:00 -
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1) add Veritas to the Warzone in Tribute against NBSI, PA, FE 2) remove Foundation from the Warzone in GW (perhaps NBSI too, we fight the most of them here in Tribute and Empire i think) 3) take a look at Tribute in the next weeks, i feel like it will be contested from someone, if it doesn't gets defended better   
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Cartiff
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Posted - 2005.10.26 21:41:00 -
[1051]
NBSI had a small gang in GW few days ago, no targets so they came back into empire.
Empire is more fun that 0.0, wow, never thought I'd say that
Cartiff, CEO Euphoria Released NBSI 4TW
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pershphanie
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Posted - 2005.10.26 22:07:00 -
[1052]
Edited by: pershphanie on 26/10/2005 22:08:20
Originally by: Entschlossen 1) add Veritas to the Warzone in Tribute against NBSI, PA, FE 2) remove Foundation from the Warzone in GW (perhaps NBSI too, we fight the most of them here in Tribute and Empire i think) 3) take a look at Tribute in the next weeks, i feel like it will be contested from someone, if it doesn't gets defended better   
Warzone marker for V,5,SA in tribute would be appropriate. As far as contesting it. lol Sending a fleet up a few times is not contesting. |

Entschlossen
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Posted - 2005.10.26 22:35:00 -
[1053]
Originally by: pershphanie
Warzone marker for V,5,SA in tribute would be appropriate. As far as contesting it. lol Sending a fleet up a few times is not contesting.
I didn't said we want to contest Tenal atm. But i hope the lack of defence the last few days is only a short weakness. So simply see what the next weeks will bring. Hope to see some more PA & FE to encounter our fleets and we will have as much fun as in the beginning of the war.
Greetings Entschlossen
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Toohot
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Posted - 2005.10.27 00:10:00 -
[1054]
fountain is contested space bob vs vertigo coalition and outer ring is not in bob control norad has control over the region no bob at all in that region
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DB Preacher
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Posted - 2005.10.27 01:11:00 -
[1055]
Originally by: Toohot fountain is contested space bob vs vertigo coalition and outer ring is not in bob control norad has control over the region no bob at all in that region
Please leave the map claims to corporations/alliances actually involved in the regions please.
If either side from any of the regions has anything to say I am sure they will.
Thanks, dbp
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Schroni
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Posted - 2005.10.27 01:46:00 -
[1056]
Originally by: Joshua Foiritain
Originally by: Vishnej F-E, PA, and NBSI are fighting R.I.S.K. in Tribute, Venal, and Branch as they try to support their new station - deserves a warzone somewhere in there at least as much as [5]. [5], -V-, and SA deserve it equally, though I'd prefer the marker be over lonetrek.
Aye, forgot about that. Im still having trouble finding the station though?
top-left of the map, a bit left of the PA blob  ---
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Toohot
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Posted - 2005.10.27 04:13:00 -
[1057]
Originally by: DB Preacher
Originally by: Toohot fountain is contested space bob vs vertigo coalition and outer ring is not in bob control norad has control over the region no bob at all in that region
Please leave the map claims to corporations/alliances actually involved in the regions please.
If either side from any of the regions has anything to say I am sure they will.
Thanks, dbp
well since the smite brotherhood are members of vertigo coalition and we fighting bob if you where thier fighting instead of mining and npcing in delve you would know
thank you
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fugazii
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Posted - 2005.10.27 05:21:00 -
[1058]
ive been gone for a while....5 was at war w/reds, has ra rly won back thier space and then some? is there even still a war between the 2?
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DB Preacher
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Posted - 2005.10.27 07:25:00 -
[1059]
Originally by: Toohot
Originally by: DB Preacher
Originally by: Toohot fountain is contested space bob vs vertigo coalition and outer ring is not in bob control norad has control over the region no bob at all in that region
Please leave the map claims to corporations/alliances actually involved in the regions please.
If either side from any of the regions has anything to say I am sure they will.
Thanks, dbp
well since the smite brotherhood are members of vertigo coalition and we fighting bob if you where thier fighting instead of mining and npcing in delve you would know
thank you
Then as already stated in the last time by your own members:
"VC is a mobile force who do not wish to hold territory"
Bit difficult to contest a region when you don't want to hold territory.
dbp
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Aquiesse Erus
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Posted - 2005.10.27 08:39:00 -
[1060]
Originally by: DB Preacher
Originally by: Toohot
Originally by: DB Preacher
Originally by: Toohot fountain is contested space bob vs vertigo coalition and outer ring is not in bob control norad has control over the region no bob at all in that region
Please leave the map claims to corporations/alliances actually involved in the regions please.
If either side from any of the regions has anything to say I am sure they will.
Thanks, dbp
well since the smite brotherhood are members of vertigo coalition and we fighting bob if you where thier fighting instead of mining and npcing in delve you would know
thank you
Then as already stated in the last time by your own members:
"VC is a mobile force who do not wish to hold territory"
Bit difficult to contest a region when you don't want to hold territory.
dbp
Thats one thing you cannot use against VC. Things change, when VC said that it was just Rubra and DMGI now VC are larger.
Please, get off your high horse, take that silver spoon out of your mouth and wipe those chips of your shoulder. You have no right to tell anyone what they can and cannot do.
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Drilla
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Posted - 2005.10.27 08:48:00 -
[1061]
The Great Wildlands warzones can be lifted.
The warzone between RA and .5. in Curse is non exsistant. The Five still claims it uncontested.
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DB Preacher
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Posted - 2005.10.27 09:14:00 -
[1062]
Edited by: DB Preacher on 27/10/2005 09:15:11
Originally by: Aquiesse Erus
Thats one thing you cannot use against VC. Things change, when VC said that it was just Rubra and DMGI now VC are larger.
That was a direct quote from a VC member before the last thread clean up yesterday.
As I stated above, unless you are actually involved in the fighting, please refrain from commenting and turning this thread into a flamefest.
thanks again lame troll alt, dbp
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Eteoneus
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Posted - 2005.10.27 09:31:00 -
[1063]
Originally by: Cartiff NBSI had a small gang in GW few days ago, no targets so they came back into empire.
Indeed, but the small gang should have got targets, at least I was among the gang chasing them. ;) ---
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maria stallion
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Posted - 2005.10.27 09:46:00 -
[1064]
Originally by: Entschlossen
Originally by: pershphanie
Warzone marker for V,5,SA in tribute would be appropriate. As far as contesting it. lol Sending a fleet up a few times is not contesting.
I didn't said we want to contest Tenal atm. But i hope the lack of defence the last few days is only a short weakness. So simply see what the next weeks will bring. Hope to see some more PA & FE to encounter our fleets and we will have as much fun as in the beginning of the war.
Greetings Entschlossen
F-E is on the offensive side aswell, but I think we defending our space more then V atm not intended as flames, but I'm having trouble finding V in there homespace aswell.
Since we are both attacking severall party's most of both sides seem to fight it out in empire.
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Cartiff
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Posted - 2005.10.27 09:49:00 -
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Originally by: Drilla The Great Wildlands warzones can be lifted.
The warzone between RA and .5. in Curse is non exsistant. The Five still claims it uncontested.
[5] claim GW ? i don't think VI would like that lol
Cartiff, CEO Euphoria Released NBSI 4TW
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Cartiff
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Posted - 2005.10.27 09:49:00 -
[1066]
maybe i read that wrong lol
Cartiff, CEO Euphoria Released NBSI 4TW
"Uggs386 > omfg i like little boys"
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Hast
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Posted - 2005.10.27 10:10:00 -
[1067]
Originally by: Cartiff maybe i read that wrong lol

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Aquiesse Erus
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Posted - 2005.10.27 10:12:00 -
[1068]
Originally by: DB Preacher Edited by: DB Preacher on 27/10/2005 09:15:11
Originally by: Aquiesse Erus
Thats one thing you cannot use against VC. Things change, when VC said that it was just Rubra and DMGI now VC are larger.
That was a direct quote from a VC member before the last thread clean up yesterday.
As I stated above, unless you are actually involved in the fighting, please refrain from commenting and turning this thread into a flamefest.
thanks again lame troll alt, dbp
I dont expect you to have all the facts on my account but still.
This character is the main on this account. The only character infact and will be put into the field against BoB once iv trained up a certain skill tree.
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DB Preacher
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Posted - 2005.10.27 10:28:00 -
[1069]
Edited by: DB Preacher on 27/10/2005 10:30:08
Originally by: Aquiesse Erus Back on top, VC diserve a warzone marker.
They have a warzone marker. 
Please leave the commenting to people actually involved in the war.
Thanks again lame troll alt, dbp
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Treebeard dk
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Posted - 2005.10.27 11:06:00 -
[1070]
Edited by: Treebeard dk on 27/10/2005 11:06:34 Edited by: Treebeard dk on 27/10/2005 11:06:02
Originally by: Cartiff NBSI had a small gang in GW few days ago, no targets so they came back into empire.
Empire is more fun that 0.0, wow, never thought I'd say that
A small gang roaming for 1 day hardly makes it a warzone if you ask me :)
On the other hand, as you say yourself, -V- is nowhere to be found in GW atm, same as many other of the warring alliances in their home regions. I think all warzones in 0.0 regions will be VERY hard to map the next weeks/months to come so dont take things as accurate because things change really fast in a war, we know where we fight and that should be enough (this goes only for the warring alliances though).
Good job JF.
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Fallange
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Posted - 2005.10.27 11:40:00 -
[1071]
Originally by: Treebeard dk Edited by: Treebeard dk on 27/10/2005 11:06:34 Edited by: Treebeard dk on 27/10/2005 11:06:02
Originally by: Cartiff NBSI had a small gang in GW few days ago, no targets so they came back into empire.
Empire is more fun that 0.0, wow, never thought I'd say that
A small gang roaming for 1 day hardly makes it a warzone if you ask me :)
On the other hand, as you say yourself, -V- is nowhere to be found in GW atm, same as many other of the warring alliances in their home regions. I think all warzones in 0.0 regions will be VERY hard to map the next weeks/months to come so dont take things as accurate because things change really fast in a war, we know where we fight and that should be enough (this goes only for the warring alliances though).
Good job JF.
but a smoll gang roming and not find any opponent what makes the reggion?
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Kartassio
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Posted - 2005.10.27 11:41:00 -
[1072]
oups post with my alt
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Raxxar
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Posted - 2005.10.27 13:33:00 -
[1073]
Originally by: Drilla
The warzone between RA and .5. in Curse is non exsistant. The Five still claims it uncontested.
Negative. Our killboard shows some recent activity of RA in Curse.
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ND01
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Posted - 2005.10.27 14:45:00 -
[1074]
Originally by: Drilla
The warzone between RA and .5. in Curse is non exsistant. The Five still claims it uncontested.
Normal you should marker Curse as RA space. There are no real Forces from the 5 in Curse only a few friends of them which protect Curse for them. For example UK Corp,Delta team,German Cyberdome Corp and FinFleet. The Five claims at the moment nothing. Most of the time is Curse under RA controll.
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Slaveabuser
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Posted - 2005.10.27 16:25:00 -
[1075]
Originally by: Raxxar
Originally by: Drilla
The warzone between RA and .5. in Curse is non exsistant. The Five still claims it uncontested.
Negative. Our killboard shows some recent activity of RA in Curse.
Yes this is correct. Every once in a while one single, or some RA duo enters HLW to have a look for easy ganks.
That is all.
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Slaveabuser
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Posted - 2005.10.27 16:31:00 -
[1076]
Edited by: Slaveabuser on 27/10/2005 16:31:58
Originally by: ND01
Most of the time is Curse under RA controll.
You are Joseph Goebbels alt and I claim my five pounds!
Reallife a-hole, not just on the internet |

danneh
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Posted - 2005.10.27 17:03:00 -
[1077]
My post seems to have been deleted, R.i.S.K still holds D4R station in branch and we are contesting it.
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Toohot
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Posted - 2005.10.27 20:05:00 -
[1078]
Originally by: DB Preacher
Originally by: Toohot
Originally by: DB Preacher
Originally by: Toohot fountain is contested space bob vs vertigo coalition and outer ring is not in bob control norad has control over the region no bob at all in that region
Please leave the map claims to corporations/alliances actually involved in the regions please.
If either side from any of the regions has anything to say I am sure they will.
Thanks, dbp
well since the smite brotherhood are members of vertigo coalition and we fighting bob if you where thier fighting instead of mining and npcing in delve you would know
thank you
Then as already stated in the last time by your own members:
"VC is a mobile force who do not wish to hold territory"
Bit difficult to contest a region when you don't want to hold territory.
dbp
oh yea your right forget my last post i forgot we not trying to claim space sorry bob just trying to get on your nerves :)
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Laythun
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Posted - 2005.10.27 23:57:00 -
[1079]
Edited by: Laythun on 27/10/2005 23:57:54 we'd like to officially change the name of our controlled area to
'the Hole'
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Archonon
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Posted - 2005.10.28 00:30:00 -
[1080]
Originally by: Slaveabuser
Yes this is correct. Every once in a while one single, or some RA duo enters HLW to have a look for easy ganks.
That is all.
Yes this is correct. Every once in a while one single .5. gang enters H-ADOC to have a look for easy ganks.
That is all.
Facts are both alliances have others things to do atm than be in curse, but JF knows very well the situation in curse and where he's flying ...  _______________________ Lokan > fire Lokan > what's up with section 13? Lokan > they flaming us on the forums
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DesertKing
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Posted - 2005.10.28 07:06:00 -
[1081]
Originally by: ND01
Originally by: Drilla
The warzone between RA and .5. in Curse is non exsistant. The Five still claims it uncontested.
Normal you should marker Curse as RA space. There are no real Forces from the 5 in Curse only a few friends of them which protect Curse for them. For example UK Corp,Delta team,German Cyberdome Corp and FinFleet. The Five claims at the moment nothing. Most of the time is Curse under RA controll.
Negative, RA not contesting Curse. But warzone mark still valid.
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Raxxar
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Posted - 2005.10.28 07:07:00 -
[1082]
Upper is mine.
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Joshua Foiritain
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Posted - 2005.10.28 12:50:00 -
[1083]
Originally by: Archonon
Originally by: Slaveabuser
Yes this is correct. Every once in a while one single, or some RA duo enters HLW to have a look for easy ganks.
That is all.
Yes this is correct. Every once in a while one single .5. gang enters H-ADOC to have a look for easy ganks.
That is all.
Facts are both alliances have others things to do atm than be in curse, but JF knows very well the situation in curse and where he's flying ... 
I know Curse quite well, i rarely see any RA's though. Apart from the occasional sniper that is. I do see quite a bit of the Fives, Section XII's and a pile of 5 sponsored people though. ------------------
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Wanda Haulur
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Posted - 2005.10.28 23:23:00 -
[1084]
The Cosmic Fusion space is contested. Pic to prove it: http://www.eve-files.com/media/10/CosmicallyContested.png Also, we have more guys there. That is all, regards,
Wanda Haulur and Pegasus Mining and Securities Corporation(member of the Stain- Alliance).
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Kyle Caldrel
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Posted - 2005.10.29 06:12:00 -
[1085]
Originally by: Wanda Haulur Edited by: Wanda Haulur on 28/10/2005 23:26:46 The Cosmic Fusion space is contested. Pic to prove it: http://www.eve-files.com/media/10/Cosmically_Contested.png Also, we have more guys there. That is all, regards,
Wanda Haulur and Pegasus Mining and Securities Corporation(member of the Stain- Alliance).
Unless you have significant pressence there at all hours and/or are killing us, your just simply raiders.
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GLok
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Posted - 2005.10.29 06:24:00 -
[1086]
Yeah, nice job camping me for 5 minutes. Your going to need more 'Presence' than a 7 or so man gang with sniper ships trying to pick off 1 person to take the space.
Great work! i see stain finally accheived something i was camped for 5 minutes. Do you want a medal for it? -------------------------------------------------
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Laythun
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Posted - 2005.10.29 10:04:00 -
[1087]
Originally by: Wanda Haulur Edited by: Wanda Haulur on 28/10/2005 23:26:46 The Cosmic Fusion space is contested. Pic to prove it: http://www.eve-files.com/media/10/Cosmically_Contested.png Also, we have more guys there. That is all, regards,
Wanda Haulur and Pegasus Mining and Securities Corporation(member of the Stain- Alliance).
right.
i contest stain itself too. i flew through there uncontested yesterday ( bar 1 RA zealot) i camped all there miners (they docked whn i went through) so therefore by your logic cos i was there 5mins i contest it all on my own. mmkay.
just so you know how absurd your claims are. it is not contested as kyle says that was a simple raid.
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HellsRazor
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Posted - 2005.10.29 16:45:00 -
[1088]
yawn* hmmmmm....i claim the last system before entering Stain from the north...umm...yah...since im only one there consistantly and umm no one else stays there consistantly to contest it...umm yeah. its mine go ahead and add that uber mapmaker 
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Laythun
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Posted - 2005.10.29 17:31:00 -
[1089]
Edited by: Laythun on 29/10/2005 17:31:28 stop whining if u dont care.
SA invasion
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ParMizaN
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Posted - 2005.10.29 23:43:00 -
[1090]
Originally by: Laythun Edited by: Laythun on 29/10/2005 17:31:28 stop whining if u dont care.
SA invasion
great.. but the link contains a lot of swearing :| and max wtf @ u usining an apoc with 2 free highs :|
Killing the rich and giving to me |
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j0sephine
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Posted - 2005.10.30 02:07:00 -
[1091]
"and max wtf @ u usining an apoc with 2 free highs :|"
Free slots don't show on the display... a bit of creative editing going there, i guess ;s
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ParMizaN
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Posted - 2005.10.30 02:17:00 -
[1092]
Originally by: j0sephine "and max wtf @ u usining an apoc with 2 free highs :|"
Free slots don't show on the display... a bit of creative editing going there, i guess ;s
right click -> show empty slots.

Killing the rich and giving to me |

Rasitiln
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Posted - 2005.10.30 05:39:00 -
[1093]
Also RISK has claimed D4R and is contesting all of branch
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Catella
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Posted - 2005.10.31 11:10:00 -
[1094]
hi!
yes it might be time to put the contested flag up over outer ring once again.. presence of both bobs and norads last night.. dont know how the negotiations are going.. but contested for sure..
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DB Preacher
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Posted - 2005.10.31 11:21:00 -
[1095]
Originally by: Catella hi!
yes it might be time to put the contested flag up over outer ring once again.. presence of both bobs and norads last night.. dont know how the negotiations are going.. but contested for sure..
Hi,
Until a proper NORAD diplomat stands up and says they are contesting the region then the region simply isn't being contested.
Considering they have made a very large point of publically disclaiming all alt posts recently, I imagine yours will be ignored too.
There have been some occasional ganks by us this weekend against some interlopers into our territory but there is no real fighting going on.
Thanks, dbp
Current RKK Ranking: (CAL5) Kenin
Drop by and say hi in Reikoku Forums.
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HeadHunta II
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Posted - 2005.10.31 11:21:00 -
[1096]
V requests to mark Tribute as a warzone between V and F-E,NBSI,PA. Just add us to the existing Nr.8 warzone.
Also there is no NBSI attacks on Great Wildlands anymore so this warzone can be deleted for now. Foundation is not attacking us in Great Wildlands, so this is not a warzone anymore. Since ages btw. thx
"-V- Vice President" "-V- Minister of Foreign affairs" "CEO Ascendancy-Inc."
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sableye
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Posted - 2005.10.31 12:58:00 -
[1097]
Originally by: Catella hi!
yes it might be time to put the contested flag up over outer ring once again.. presence of both bobs and norads last night.. dont know how the negotiations are going.. but contested for sure..
not an official norad post, any official postings will be made by Takagamu.
NORAD Is Recruiting Corps Now |

Catella
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Posted - 2005.10.31 13:04:00 -
[1098]
Edited by: Catella on 31/10/2005 13:08:15 nope this screw up is just on me... forgot what thread i was in (shouldnt play all evening and work after that and then hit the forums after a night shift) and didnt understand the weight of posting in this thread should have put it in some other way..
not anything related to norad or any views on that they have.. i screwed up sorry.. and also didnt really grasp the contested thingy there.. thought it was when 2 or more parties have an interest in one region..
sorry ones again didnt mean to offend anyone..
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DB Preacher
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Posted - 2005.10.31 13:25:00 -
[1099]
Originally by: sableye
Originally by: Catella hi!
yes it might be time to put the contested flag up over outer ring once again.. presence of both bobs and norads last night.. dont know how the negotiations are going.. but contested for sure..
not an official norad post, any official postings will be made by Takagamu.
Thanks for the clarification Sableye.
dbp
Current RKK Ranking: (CAL5) Kenin
Drop by and say hi in Reikoku Forums.
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Cartiff
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Posted - 2005.10.31 14:15:00 -
[1100]
Originally by: HeadHunta II V requests to mark Tribute as a warzone between V and F-E,NBSI,PA. Just add us to the existing Nr.8 warzone.
Also there is no NBSI attacks on Great Wildlands anymore so this warzone can be deleted for now. Foundation is not attacking us in Great Wildlands, so this is not a warzone anymore. Since ages btw. thx
Yup, thats about right, no point going to GW anymore, more targets in empire. Empire wars 4tw
Cartiff, CEO Euphoria Released NBSI 4TW
"Uggs386 > omfg i like little boys"
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Eriqeu
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Posted - 2005.10.31 18:56:00 -
[1101]
Originally by: Entschlossen 1) add Veritas to the Warzone in Tribute against NBSI, PA, FE 2) remove Foundation from the Warzone in GW (perhaps NBSI too, we fight the most of them here in Tribute and Empire i think) 3) take a look at Tribute in the next weeks, i feel like it will be contested from someone, if it doesn't gets defended better   
FOUNDATION still has POS's in GW. (Where do you think that other tower is that we stole from you???) I think it is you my friend who has not been in GW in awhile and needs to get a clue.. ;)
FOUNDATION IS IN GW TO STAY.
FOUNDATION -E-
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Eriqeu
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Posted - 2005.10.31 18:59:00 -
[1102]
Originally by: HeadHunta II V requests to mark Tribute as a warzone between V and F-E,NBSI,PA. Just add us to the existing Nr.8 warzone.
Also there is no NBSI attacks on Great Wildlands anymore so this warzone can be deleted for now. Foundation is not attacking us in Great Wildlands, so this is not a warzone anymore. Since ages btw. thx
Hmmm.. Seems an NBSI member just last night was flying with us, and we happen to kill 3 -V- Ships. The things that make you go Hmmmmm...... FOUNDATION -E-
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Rod Blaine
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Posted - 2005.10.31 19:00:00 -
[1103]
/me rushes over and plants a small tower or two in Curse.
Mine, all mine !!
I think someone lost sight of what can objectively be seen as a measure of presence/contesting/fighting a war. _______________________________________________
Power to the players !
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Harisdrop
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Posted - 2005.10.31 19:34:00 -
[1104]
Edited by: Harisdrop on 31/10/2005 19:34:34
-------------------------- Does it matter why, its when is more crucial!
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Nork
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Posted - 2005.10.31 23:18:00 -
[1105]
Edited by: Nork on 31/10/2005 23:17:57
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HeadHunta II
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Posted - 2005.10.31 23:19:00 -
[1106]
Quote:
FOUNDATION still has POS's in GW. (Where do you think your other large tower is that we captured just the other day??? Oh yeah, and thanks for the industrials, Keep our supplies coming..) I think it is you, my friend, who has not been in GW in awhile!
FOUNDATION IS IN GW TO STAY.
Claim control of Great Wildlands in game and not on the forums... (End of Line) MCP
Lol? You kidding me? Sry, but now i really have enough of this crap. Was looking long on these post of you guys without response, since i am the diplo of V and normally dont response to post like this. But enough is enough, everyone knows me as a fair man, but i cant see this crap any longer.
You know as good as everyone else that V fully controls GW. Yes you still have a POS, and? V have some POS in F-E space too.This means you control anything? No. Its about the domination pvp-power in the region and this is without doubt in GW ->V. You are sitting in N-D with a handfull guys, without forming active gangs to attack us. You mine, support your POS and dock as soon someone of us enters N-D. This is no warzone nor it is contested space.
Form up an official alliance and let the community see whats left of "Foundation". Fight us active, kill some of us everyday, form gangs and dont post on the forums like you were still alive and kicking.
We are already fighting many ex-foundation within F-E. Those are the guys who fought active, gave their isk in the V vs Foundation war and those guys have my full respect since they also admitted defeat in a very honest way. You do nothing and claim things you cant back up. Cant see it anymore.
This is my first and last post in this matter. I am not the man posting chatlogs on the forums but if you go on like this i really have to think about posting some logs i saved, the community of eve would enjoy and those make you guys looking very bad. So shut that now.
And again, as official V-Member, i say: GW is not contested nor a warzone atm. "-V- Vice President" "-V- Minister of Foreign affairs" "CEO Ascendancy-Inc."
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Eriqeu
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Posted - 2005.11.01 00:31:00 -
[1107]
Originally by: HeadHunta II
Quote:
FOUNDATION still has POS's in GW. (Where do you think your other large tower is that we captured just the other day??? Oh yeah, and thanks for the industrials, Keep our supplies coming..) I think it is you, my friend, who has not been in GW in awhile!
FOUNDATION IS IN GW TO STAY.
Claim control of Great Wildlands in game and not on the forums... (End of Line) MCP
Lol? You kidding me? Sry, but now i really have enough of this crap. Was looking long on these post of you guys without response, since i am the diplo of V and normally dont response to post like this. But enough is enough, everyone knows me as a fair man, but i cant see this crap any longer.
You know as good as everyone else that V fully controls GW. Yes you still have a POS, and? V have some POS in F-E space too.This means you control anything? No. Its about the domination pvp-power in the region and this is without doubt in GW ->V. You are sitting in N-D with a handfull guys, without forming active gangs to attack us. You mine, support your POS and dock as soon someone of us enters N-D. This is no warzone nor it is contested space.
Form up an official alliance and let the community see whats left of "Foundation". Fight us active, kill some of us everyday, form gangs and dont post on the forums like you were still alive and kicking.
We are already fighting many ex-foundation within F-E. Those are the guys who fought active, gave their isk in the V vs Foundation war and those guys have my full respect since they also admitted defeat in a very honest way. You do nothing and claim things you cant back up. Cant see it anymore.
This is my first and last post in this matter. I am not the man posting chatlogs on the forums but if you go on like this i really have to think about posting some logs i saved, the community of eve would enjoy and those make you guys looking very bad. So shut that now.
And again, as official V-Member, i say: GW is not contested nor a warzone atm.
FOUNDATION -E-
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Mr Herb
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Posted - 2005.11.01 07:00:00 -
[1108]
Edited by: Mr Herb on 01/11/2005 07:04:59 delete
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AnubsiRa
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Posted - 2005.11.01 10:06:00 -
[1109]
All i can say is lol.
Sitting most Time on Station or on SS or kill a Single Indutrial or Assault Frig sometimes is not a reason to Claim/warzone GW for you.
The most Time more neutral (2-3) are in GW as Foundation Members Loool.
So bring your hole not offical existing Foundation into GW and fight or be Still. btw if you don¦t realized it your former Foundation members Corps joined other Alliances like F-E/PA etc.
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Pepperami
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Posted - 2005.11.01 13:20:00 -
[1110]
The only place G-W is being fought over by you guys is in that post.
You don't engage us in gangs bigger than 3, your targets are industrials and easy pray.. Hell, your targets are mainly cargo cans. You can keep "fighting" as you do, but it's not a war. You're not a force, you're pirates. Oh, and you don't kill us daily.
As soon as a force consisting of anything other than haulers tries to engage you, you dock or deep safe.. You want G-W.. Fight us for it. Untill then, you're pirates and the warzone marker is misleading and wrong.
If Foundation keep their war marker, I demand "State War Acadamy" gets one too, I see much more activity from them and they undock, too.
[We're Recruiting!] [http://spankage.co.uk/] |
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Entschlossen
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Posted - 2005.11.01 20:36:00 -
[1111]
Lol Eriqeu.
Form an Alliance (but i doubt you have the cash). We will declare war immeadiatly all you have to do is makle it mutual. We will see how long your 20 member ally survive   
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HeadHunta II
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Posted - 2005.11.01 21:39:00 -
[1112]
Oh well, You have your opinion, we have ours. This should not end in a flame-fest since there is simply no reason to talk about such things. You are no thread atm. If you become one again, good, we will be rdy again and we would love to fight in GW again anyway, since (like you say) many of us are in Empire atm, just because GW = to less enemys. Give us a reason to come back...we would love it.
The the "you bite more than you can chew" comment: At least V can/is able to fight on their own and dont need to wait for other alliances to support and "activate" a gang. And btw, YOU as "Foundation" want to fight us, so pls stop crying for friends even before a real war between F and V has started again. We would love to see Foundation alive again, since we had fun with you guys, but try it alone this time if YOU now say you are very active again. NBSI, F-E, UK, they all supported you, but also all left again. Why? Well, at least from Uk i know they left because they lost their ships in YOUR war, without much support. Bet others feel same.
So become bigger again and fight us. And yes, i really thing the original Foundation is dead. Sry.
"-V- Vice President" "-V- Minister of Foreign affairs" "CEO Ascendancy-Inc."
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Aeon
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Posted - 2005.11.02 00:14:00 -
[1113]
/me grabs some popcorn and a soda
Please continue Erique 
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DB Preacher
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Posted - 2005.11.02 08:47:00 -
[1114]
Originally by: Kinsy Please Add:-
BoB vs Unassociated
Exuro Mortis vs Unassociated
IMP vs Exuro Mortis
All happening in the Aridia region.
Were not locals in Aridia...
Unassociated have moved out of Aridia.
dbp
Current RKK Ranking: (CAL5) Kenin
Drop by and say hi in Reikoku Forums.
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Eteoneus
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Posted - 2005.11.02 10:51:00 -
[1115]
@Eriqeu Just one thing to Foundation is alive an kickin'. Some days ago, there was a small V squad in N-DQ, a Raven, a Dominix and 2 ceptors. F had a Raven, a Geddon and a Rupture somewhere safespotting will we left. We begged for a fight but we only got flame in local. Even a 1on1 was not possible! In my oppinion the in N-DQ remaining F ppl are cowards that only crawl up their whole when they sense an easy kill! ---
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DjDangle
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Posted - 2005.11.02 13:32:00 -
[1116]
Eriqeu - All i can do is a "lol"
ITFB have been active in GW for 3/4 months now. I have only ever seen Foundation a few times if that, and they never last very long because within long a gang is formed and they flee. GW is not even close to a warzone.
1/2 of our force got bored of waiting for the mighty un-dead Foundation to fight as promised so we went to have more fun.
When you decide to show up and "contest" the space. We'll be waiting. For now, the map needs to be updated. 1 or 2 people does not constitute a warzone marker. ------------
http://www.itfb.org/banner.jpg
"On My Signal, Unleash Hell"
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Elfaen Ethenwe
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Posted - 2005.11.03 08:37:00 -
[1117]
Are you guys goner update Branch,
at the least its in conflict
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Tomski Ruslav
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Posted - 2005.11.04 10:50:00 -
[1118]
As of last night RISK controls both stations in branch - please update the map accordingly. If it helps you to verify it we are the 2 little green dots on the map where PA was.
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Edward Black
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Posted - 2005.11.05 19:40:00 -
[1119]
How about a big warzone marker over empire 
And p'hapse Tribute needs one, it seems to end up with a nice chuck of the NvS 0.0 battles.
Latest Video: Happy Mining |

Invisible Touch
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Posted - 2005.11.05 19:50:00 -
[1120]
Originally by: Tomski Ruslav As of last night RISK controls both stations in branch - please update the map accordingly. If it helps you to verify it we are the 2 little green dots on the map where PA was.
Nothing is left of the RISK territorials claims.
Every day we stand is another day for PA
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thoth foc
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Posted - 2005.11.06 01:57:00 -
[1121]
Originally by: Invisible Touch
Originally by: Tomski Ruslav As of last night RISK controls both stations in branch - please update the map accordingly. If it helps you to verify it we are the 2 little green dots on the map where PA was.
Nothing is left of the RISK territorials claims.
the area looks very contested on our few trips up..
--thoth [5], ex-Curse Alliance ex-DSMA |

pershphanie
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Posted - 2005.11.06 04:05:00 -
[1122]
Originally by: thoth foc
Originally by: Invisible Touch
Originally by: Tomski Ruslav As of last night RISK controls both stations in branch - please update the map accordingly. If it helps you to verify it we are the 2 little green dots on the map where PA was.
Nothing is left of the RISK territorials claims.
the area looks very contested on our few trips up..
Risk caught PA napping and managed to sneak a station or two. But after some mild housekeeping all bases once again belong to their rightfull owners, PA. |

Seleene
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Posted - 2005.11.06 07:38:00 -
[1123]
FFS, guys, this is the reason Josh only does an update every few weeks. All respect to those involved, but capturing a station for a day or two is hardly worthy of a map update. Hold it for a few weeks and THEN make a post on this thread.  -
'You have foolishly engaged the MC in Empire space. Prepare to suffer the consequences!' |

Lunas Feelgood
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Posted - 2005.11.06 19:23:00 -
[1124]
Quote: FFS, guys, this is the reason Josh only does an update every few weeks. All respect to those involved, but capturing a station for a day or two is hardly worthy of a map update. Hold it for a few weeks and THEN make a post on this thread.
aye thats right taking a stn for a couple of days is not worth the map makers time..
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Valdi
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Posted - 2005.11.07 03:03:00 -
[1125]
about stain region..
It is Stain- Alliance property.
SE aren't putting up much of a fight for it.. the only system they are in is 4gq.. soooo --- We just came to crush...
Director of Recruitment
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FalloutBoy
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Posted - 2005.11.07 06:11:00 -
[1126]
Originally by: Valdi about stain region..
It is Stain- Alliance property.
SE aren't putting up much of a fight for it.. the only system they are in is 4gq.. soooo
considering the fact that you can't even hold on to the stations you actaully own, you obviously aren't in control of an NPC region such as stain SE or not
Watch out, Radioactive Man! |

Elfaen Ethenwe
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Posted - 2005.11.07 09:43:00 -
[1127]
i requested a conflict zone marker thats all
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Masu'di
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Posted - 2005.11.07 17:17:00 -
[1128]
there are small angry bands of Great Wildlands residents roaming about who are not happy with their Veritas Incontenentus neighbours. i think the Great Wildlands deserves a civil unrest marker at the least.
POS Drug Refinery |

thoth foc
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Posted - 2005.11.07 17:36:00 -
[1129]
Originally by: Seleene FFS, guys, this is the reason Josh only does an update every few weeks. All respect to those involved, but capturing a station for a day or two is hardly worthy of a map update. Hold it for a few weeks and THEN make a post on this thread. 
mhm ur over rating pos warfare tbh.. RISK have been in the area for a number of weeks by now..
--thoth [5], ex-Curse Alliance ex-DSMA |

Darkrydar
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Posted - 2005.11.07 21:32:00 -
[1130]
Originally by: Masu'di there are small angry bands of Great Wildlands residents roaming about who are not happy with their Veritas Incontenentus neighbours. i think the Great Wildlands deserves a civil unrest marker at the least.
It's called 0.0 space.
Just because you can fly your probe around in 0.0 space doesnt mean anything.
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Masu'di
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Posted - 2005.11.07 23:07:00 -
[1131]
Edited by: Masu''di on 07/11/2005 23:12:50
Originally by: Darkrydar
Originally by: Masu'di there are small angry bands of Great Wildlands residents roaming about who are not happy with their Veritas Incontenentus neighbours. i think the Great Wildlands deserves a civil unrest marker at the least.
It's called 0.0 space.
Just because you can fly your probe around in 0.0 space doesnt mean anything.
My Probe would own you any day, if it wasn't for the fact that your head was already shoved up your arse. |

Aeon Yakati
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Posted - 2005.11.08 10:06:00 -
[1132]
Edited by: Aeon Yakati on 08/11/2005 10:05:49
Originally by: Masu'di My Probe would own you any day, if it wasn't for the fact that your head was already shoved up your arse.
With that remark you just threw your credibility out of the window. Mods please delete this and Masu'di's post.
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Masu'di
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Posted - 2005.11.08 10:46:00 -
[1133]
Originally by: Aeon Yakati Edited by: Aeon Yakati on 08/11/2005 10:05:49
Originally by: Masu'di My Probe would own you any day, if it wasn't for the fact that your head was already shoved up your arse.
With that remark you just threw your credibility out of the window. Mods please delete this and Masu'di's post.
yes, i posted a tongue in cheek comment, which was followed by a ridiculous comment so responed with an even more one so. and i don't think the mods need telling how to do their job, im sure they know what to do ;) |

Joshua Foiritain
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Posted - 2005.11.08 10:53:00 -
[1134]
Originally by: Valdi about stain region..
It is Stain- Alliance property.
SE aren't putting up much of a fight for it.. the only system they are in is 4gq.. soooo
Last week neither had any presence worthy of claiming it, though since nobody else does either ill leave it as it currently is. ------------------
[Coreli Corporation Mainframe] |

Practice 1
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Posted - 2005.11.08 22:04:00 -
[1135]
Edited by: Practice 1 on 08/11/2005 22:05:49 Stain is definately contested. Barely any SA presence but lots of presence from IRON and G alliance. Not many SE though either.
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Cmd Woodlouse
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Posted - 2005.11.08 22:43:00 -
[1136]
Originally by: Practice 1 Edited by: Practice 1 on 08/11/2005 22:05:49 Stain is definately contested. Barely any SA presence but lots of presence from IRON and G alliance. Not many SE though either.
1. Post with ur main
2. Its up to us, IRON and Razor if we would like to ask for a contested marker, not you.
Thank you.
-G- Pink Power
Darko1107 > so play a fluffy game Darko1107 > like pokemon |

oidalia
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Posted - 2005.11.08 23:13:00 -
[1137]
actually its up to the mapmaker/the community and well SA territory is for sure contested (that doesnt need any claims of G or Iron).
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DB Preacher
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Posted - 2005.11.09 00:16:00 -
[1138]
Edited by: DB Preacher on 09/11/2005 00:16:46
Originally by: oidalia actually its up to the mapmaker/the community and well SA territory is for sure contested (that doesnt need any claims of G or Iron).
Actually, I disagree.
It's up to the corps involved to inform Joshua if they are contesting a region or not.
G/Iron might be there for a roadtrip, they might be there to stay.
Without an alliance informing the public of a serious intention to take over a region then it isn't being contested.
I am sure they will let the community know if they are intending on doing so.
oh and chicken lamer alts shouldn't have a say either way.
dbp
Current RKK Ranking: (CAL5) Kenin
Drop by and say hi in Reikoku Forums.
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oidalia
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Posted - 2005.11.09 00:23:00 -
[1139]
Edited by: oidalia on 09/11/2005 00:25:45
Originally by: DB Preacher Edited by: DB Preacher on 09/11/2005 00:16:46
Originally by: oidalia actually its up to the mapmaker/the community and well SA territory is for sure contested (that doesnt need any claims of G or Iron).
Actually, I disagree.
It's up to the corps involved to inform Joshua if they are contesting a region or not.
G/Iron might be there for a roadtrip, they might be there to stay.
Without an alliance informing the public of a serious intention to take over a region then it isn't being contested.
I am sure they will let the community know if they are intending on doing so.
oh and chicken lamer alts shouldn't have a say either way.
dbp
i consider 30+ G POS in SA's outpost system more than a road trip but whatever this whole "contested" thing is anyways kinda useless because its changing so often and so fast that the map can hardly show whats really happening.
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Creamster
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Posted - 2005.11.09 01:39:00 -
[1140]
SA's outpost system (16P) is not in stain region. XB gave up attempts to find any SA targets worth bringing our battleship gangs after G/IRON invasion. Those rare SA pilots who dare to travel on highways in stain are often being slaughtered by G. Not much we can do to those who prefer sitting docked. :( ___________ 2005.09.04:"After the 7 days SE corporations will be removed from the said regions" (Q) XB killboard |
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j0rz
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Posted - 2005.11.09 04:38:00 -
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Originally by: DB Preacher Edited by: DB Preacher on 09/11/2005 00:16:46
Originally by: oidalia actually its up to the mapmaker/the community and well SA territory is for sure contested (that doesnt need any claims of G or Iron).
Actually, I disagree.
It's up to the corps involved to inform Joshua if they are contesting a region or not.
G/Iron might be there for a roadtrip, they might be there to stay.
Without an alliance informing the public of a serious intention to take over a region then it isn't being contested.
I am sure they will let the community know if they are intending on doing so.
oh and chicken lamer alts shouldn't have a say either way.
dbp
I disagree on both points, if the mapmaker decides there is conflict it up to him. Please don't be arragont, so u post with ur main, others psot with alts. And thats ur business why?
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DB Preacher
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Posted - 2005.11.09 08:32:00 -
[1142]
Edited by: DB Preacher on 09/11/2005 08:33:22
Originally by: oidalia i consider 30+ G POS in SA's outpost system more than a road trip but whatever this whole "contested" thing is anyways kinda useless because its changing so often and so fast that the map can hardly show whats really happening.
If they have 30+ POS in the outpost system then sounds to me like they wanna kill the outpost.
So yes, that would be an extended roadtrip and not contesting the region.
Not really sure why this is so hard to understand tbh, if G say they are or are not contesting a region then you can't really argue with that.
Jorz: leave the smaktalk out unless you have something to contribute to the map thread, there are plenty of other random threads in here to wee over.
dbp
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Dreez
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Posted - 2005.11.09 14:42:00 -
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PA are no longer in control of their region, we are.
I might have ATUKO in my tag, but i have OC in my DNA
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pershphanie
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Posted - 2005.11.09 15:42:00 -
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Smash alliance have vacated FE space entirly. There last pos in d7-zac was abandond and destroyed. No smash v FE warzone marker is needed. |

Soul Redemption
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Posted - 2005.11.09 16:44:00 -
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bob does not control the outer ring region its a very much disputet area
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oidalia
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Posted - 2005.11.09 16:57:00 -
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Originally by: DB Preacher
Not really sure why this is so hard to understand tbh, if G say they are or are not contesting a region then you can't really argue with that.
dbp
well i thought the map is there to show what is actually going on and not to show what the alliance PR departments want the public to know. But like i said it would be better to scrap this whole "contested" thing alltogether because there is no way to measure it.
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DB Preacher
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Posted - 2005.11.09 17:21:00 -
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Originally by: Soul Redemption bob does not control the outer ring region its a very much disputet area
*sigh*
Please check Page 2 of this thread before you post.
Specifically the part where any official posts will be made by Takagamu for NORAD.
Thanks, dbp
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dabster
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Posted - 2005.11.09 18:40:00 -
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Edited by: dabster on 09/11/2005 18:41:28 omg the world is going to end now...i agree with DB preacher :(
Without trying to sound too offensive....HELLOOOOO RETARDS!!11!1? A region isnt contested until somebody fuxking says "we are hereby contesting this region, it is our intentions to make it ours".
HOW ON EARTH CAN THAT BE SO HARD TO UNDERSTAND??!?
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oidalia
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Posted - 2005.11.09 18:58:00 -
[1149]
Originally by: dabster Edited by: dabster on 09/11/2005 18:41:28 omg the world is going to end now...i agree with DB preacher :(
Without trying to sound too offensive....HELLOOOOO RETARDS!!11!1? A region isnt contested until somebody fuxking says "we are hereby contesting this region, it is our intentions to make it ours".
HOW ON EARTH CAN THAT BE SO HARD TO UNDERSTAND??!?
EDIT; sorry for overusage of capslock, i normally dont do this :/
how about actions say more than words? I often see ppl saying a lot and then it isnt even a real try to contest something and then we have other cases where ppl say nothing and simply really do something. So should the map show what is really going on or rather just show what a few ppl tell us?
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Kyguard
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Posted - 2005.11.09 19:09:00 -
[1150]
Oidalia, it seems you are not aware that the mapmaker is in contact with most of the alliances' diplomats or representatives in-game.
Most alliances do not post here simply because they don't care or do not wish to incite the flamebait. --
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dabster
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Posted - 2005.11.09 19:10:00 -
[1151]
Originally by: oidalia
Originally by: dabster Edited by: dabster on 09/11/2005 18:41:28 omg the world is going to end now...i agree with DB preacher :(
Without trying to sound too offensive....HELLOOOOO RETARDS!!11!1? A region isnt contested until somebody fuxking says "we are hereby contesting this region, it is our intentions to make it ours".
HOW ON EARTH CAN THAT BE SO HARD TO UNDERSTAND??!?
EDIT; sorry for overusage of capslock, i normally dont do this :/
how about actions say more than words? I often see ppl saying a lot and then it isnt even a real try to contest something and then we have other cases where ppl say nothing and simply really do something. So should the map show what is really going on or rather just show what a few ppl tell us?
omg you really are retarded.
CONTESTING means stating how your intentions are to CONTEST something. WAR is so much simpler to define, go in and blow **** up or put up some POS's for fun or to **** people off. ___________________________ Chicks dig Brutor's |
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Laurelin1420

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Posted - 2005.11.09 23:38:00 -
[1152]
Please remember that this thread is for map change requests.If you wish to discuss anything else regarding corps/alliances ,there are discussion forums close-by.
Thanks :)
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bety yarr
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Posted - 2005.11.10 03:22:00 -
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just wanted to inform you that from what i hear and saw F-E space is way to big, they havent been in control of Geminite and some parts of vale of silent for a long time now.
so i recomend you put geminate region as a Free for all or unclaimed. you dont want to you to give an impresion that F-E controls it, so when F-E friends come by they get ganked.
otherwise it seems like an awsome map, keep up the good work
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pershphanie
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Posted - 2005.11.10 13:05:00 -
[1154]
Originally by: bety yarr just wanted to inform you that from what i hear and saw F-E space is way to big, they havent been in control of Geminite and some parts of vale of silent for a long time now.
so i recomend you put geminate region as a Free for all or unclaimed. you dont want to you to give an impresion that F-E controls it, so when F-E friends come by they get ganked.
otherwise it seems like an awsome map, keep up the good work
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bety yarr
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Posted - 2005.11.10 18:26:00 -
[1155]
yarrr, u know its true 
come over and will talk yarrrrrrrrrr,yarr, go get some sunny
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Demarcus
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Posted - 2005.11.10 21:23:00 -
[1156]
Esoteria should have a huge war marker over it to say the least. Contested would be a better word but you would have to convo someone higher than me to see if that would be correct. ------------------------------------- You are all worthless, and weak.
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Muthsera
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Posted - 2005.11.11 08:18:00 -
[1157]
Mate. I don't want to be a ***** about this. But in the timeframe since last update. Events have come to change several times. This map fails to keep pace whit the changing events in eve. I suddest if your able to. Make a dynamic map. Please. Flash or something similar. It will take some doing. But it will also be much easier to change. I know your working hard to keep the map updated. And I applaude you for that. But do you yourself feel that it's keeping up? SoonÖ
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Kyle Caldrel
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Posted - 2005.11.11 09:06:00 -
[1158]
map shouldent change for something htats there one day... then gone the next... it should change to long term events.
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Dawson
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Posted - 2005.11.11 09:27:00 -
[1159]
Dynamic map would be nice, should be very doable in flash.
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Agil Scout
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Posted - 2005.11.11 10:13:00 -
[1160]
Edited by: Agil Scout on 11/11/2005 10:14:15
Originally by: Muthsera Mate. I don't want to be a ***** about this. But in the timeframe since last update. Events have come to change several times. This map fails to keep pace whit the changing events in eve. I suddest if your able to. Make a dynamic map. Please. Flash or something similar. It will take some doing. But it will also be much easier to change. I know your working hard to keep the map updated. And I applaude you for that. But do you yourself feel that it's keeping up?
Mabye the dude just has a RL, xmass is just around the corner he might be busy.
Originally by: Dawson Dynamic map would be nice, should be very doable in flash.
DO IT THEN MOFO. ------------ [IAC] Teh best noob corp in the world. I R AN ALT FEAR ME! |
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Joshua Foiritain
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Posted - 2005.11.11 11:17:00 -
[1161]
Originally by: Muthsera Mate. I don't want to be a ***** about this. But in the timeframe since last update. Events have come to change several times. This map fails to keep pace whit the changing events in eve. I suddest if your able to. Make a dynamic map. Please. Flash or something similar. It will take some doing. But it will also be much easier to change. I know your working hard to keep the map updated. And I applaude you for that. But do you yourself feel that it's keeping up?
If an alliance cant support their claims for 2 weeks, theyre not worth mentioning on the map. Which is exactly why its only updated once every 2 weeks. ------------------
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Muthsera
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Posted - 2005.11.11 12:22:00 -
[1162]
Originally by: Joshua Foiritain
If an alliance cant support their claims for 2 weeks, theyre not worth mentioning on the map. Which is exactly why its only updated once every 2 weeks.
I can in large part agree whit that. But such developments that are really massive that have been going on lately have not been established on the map to follow that development. You can disagree whit the extent that one should be able to claim space. But most notably the span of three weeks that have been, severe situations have occured. The map does not reflect this. Sorry to say. Such as risk disputing branch heavily and the changes during the stain war. Red alliance pushing 5. 5 disputing venal now for two weeks. I'm sorry but it just don't reflect what is going on. It doens't take up development that well either. Justifing it whit "if an alliance isn't able to hold a region for longer than two weeks it's not worth reporting" I think that shouldn't be the goal of the map. It should be to give a clear picture of the situation, as good as it can be. It might not be an objective for an alliance to dispute the region either. It should be the maps responsability to reflect what is doing on. Not just ownership. Others might disagree on that. But if you have a dynamic map you can atleast do the changes you want much more quickly.
I atleast use the map as a situation awareness gathering. I don't take everything there are established facts for the situation right now. I don't let that have the basis of my total info gathering. But it sets the premesisses. I don't want to focus on this better. I just though I voice my opinion about it. It's your choice as a map maker to do the changes if you like. Your doing a good job at it though. Even though I feel it takes a bit long sometimes.
I'll shut up now.  SoonÖ
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DB Preacher
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Posted - 2005.11.11 13:53:00 -
[1163]
2 weeks is fine.
If anyone is interested in any changes since the last map then all they need to do is read this thread (which is cropped at each map update).
dbp
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Naurhir
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Posted - 2005.11.11 18:37:00 -
[1164]
It's his map, not yours, get over it. The map has no responsibilities that the artist / author does not give it.
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Muthsera
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Posted - 2005.11.11 19:07:00 -
[1165]
Originally by: Naurhir It's his map, not yours, get over it. The map has no responsibilities that the artist / author does not give it.
Well. I don't belive that mate. But feel free to disagree. SoonÖ
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Ithildin
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Posted - 2005.11.11 22:58:00 -
[1166]
If you want a clear view of the diplomatic situation (who is angry at who), then go to the Diplomacy Table. They're eager to update often. As Josh said, disputing a region must be a serious effort. If you're just attacking someone, then... no the map isn't for you.
I wish there were more fun skills with Memory as primary. Poor Intaki combat people with low perception... |

Narciss Sevar
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Posted - 2005.11.12 06:30:00 -
[1167]
Originally by: Ithildin If you want a clear view of the diplomatic situation (who is angry at who), then go to the Diplomacy Table. They're eager to update often. As Josh said, disputing a region must be a serious effort. If you're just attacking someone, then... no the map isn't for you.
So taking over one station for around 2 weeks and another for a couple days is not seriously contesting an area?  --------
A pretty girl can kiss a guy, a bird can kiss a butterfly. Teh rising sun can kiss the grass, but you my friend can kiss my A**E! |

Nez Perces
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Posted - 2005.11.12 14:41:00 -
[1168]
Edited by: Nez Perces on 12/11/2005 14:40:59
Originally by: Narciss Sevar
So taking over one station for around 2 weeks and another for a couple days is not seriously contesting an area? 
Correct...
manage it for around 3 - 4 weeks and then you are deserving of a spot on the map...
The amount of work that goes into updating the map means changes over a 2 week timespan are irrelevant tbh.
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Weeman
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Posted - 2005.11.12 15:56:00 -
[1169]
CVA and Huzzah claimed space is full contested warzone. War has been ongoing for over a month between Huzzah Federation + CVA vs The Priory + TSDS. HF and CVA control of and movement through these areas is severely limited and as such should be represented on the map. Please :)
See www.piracy4tw.com for war stats. The warzone isnt the providence bit with the warning sign but the empire area covered in the CVA red box thingy :)
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Lexa A
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Posted - 2005.11.13 03:35:00 -
[1170]
FOE claimed ifj- and s-n http://www.eve-files.com/media/11/banner_1_mk_2.bmp
Gah indeed, your sig image is still oversize, the maximum filesize is 24,000 bytes - Imaran  |
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pershphanie
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Posted - 2005.11.13 05:45:00 -
[1171]
Originally by: Lexa A FOE claimed ifj- and s-n
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Fairchild
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Posted - 2005.11.13 06:28:00 -
[1172]
Originally by: pershphanie
Originally by: Lexa A FOE claimed ifj- and s-n
lol. no you dont.
PLEASE stop contradicting people when they make a post telling the mapmaker what they are claiming. It's getting downright annoying. And don't flame me. Take it with good grace.
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FalloutBoy
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Posted - 2005.11.13 07:59:00 -
[1173]
Originally by: Fairchild
Originally by: pershphanie
Originally by: Lexa A FOE claimed ifj- and s-n
lol. no you dont.
PLEASE stop contradicting people when they make a post telling the mapmaker what they are claiming. It's getting downright annoying. And don't flame me. Take it with good grace.
yes mr. alt
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Eidolon
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Posted - 2005.11.13 16:45:00 -
[1174]
Esoteria = ASCN Protectorat?  ROFL, nice joke...
What kind of informants you¦re working with? _______________________
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LTD THOR
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Posted - 2005.11.13 17:42:00 -
[1175]
er.. there is no war between foundation and V in GW¦s.. since MONTH¦S!! a few lonesome visitors at several days in a week from foundation we have.. thats all m8! no warzones.. 
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arjun
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Posted - 2005.11.13 17:44:00 -
[1176]
Edited by: arjun on 13/11/2005 17:45:11 mr mapmaker. at most esoteria is a contested space between stain alliance and g alliance. g might even be satisfied with a warzone marker. atm ascn has no stake there. that may change, but acording to your own rules changes and claims on your map should be shown only after holding the area for more than a week.
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Joshua Foiritain
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Posted - 2005.11.13 17:55:00 -
[1177]
Edited by: Joshua Foiritain on 13/11/2005 17:57:27
Originally by: arjun mr mapmaker. at most esoteria is a contested space between stain alliance and g alliance. g might even be satisfied with a warzone marker. atm ascn has no stake there. that may change, but acording to your own rules changes and claims on your map should be shown only after holding the area for more than a week.
Feel free to have one of your alliance leaders contact me, as far as im aware ASCN and G/IRON/Razor have agreed to move out of Estoria/Paragon and ASCN will be moving in until the southern alliance decide what to do about the SA situation.
Originally by: Eidolon Esoteria = ASCN Protectorat?  ROFL, nice joke...
What kind of informants you¦re working with?
Eeeh, not sure, i think theyre called Cmd Woodlouse and Cyvok, ever heard of em?
Originally by: Cmd Woodlouse but a stewardship over the region by a neighbouring alliance was discussed as well as reinstating the old souvereign, Stain-Empire. [G] is expected to relocate its main fleet to an undisclosed solar system in the Fade region in the space of two weeks.
Which was verified by Cyvok, due to SA's lack in military power ASCN will be taking over estoria for the time being.
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Spuki
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Posted - 2005.11.13 17:57:00 -
[1178]
Shouldnt the map show the current situation instead of the situation that might be in a week?
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DB Preacher
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Posted - 2005.11.13 19:05:00 -
[1179]
Originally by: Spuki
Edit: Why dont you mark the empire as BOB territory? Didnt they say they will control it?
Nope.
dbp
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Turkantho
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Posted - 2005.11.13 19:22:00 -
[1180]
Edited by: Turkantho on 13/11/2005 19:26:09 @joshua pls take a look at this and change the map accordingly
http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=247327
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Kunming
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Posted - 2005.11.13 20:37:00 -
[1181]
Hey Joshua I really respect what you've been doing and never judge your job, since your doing a good job. BUT this last map "13.11.107" is kinda wrong for the south:
First of ASCN has nothing to do with Esoteria, if you wanna call it a protectorate its most probably a G protectorate, even that is wrong since OI is currently taking their outpost back.
Second, Paragon Soul is owned by STC and they are no more Stain- Alliance, so it should be shown as STC property imo.
Last but not least, you might wanna have a second look at Omist and see who owns the stations atm.
Anyway I know its a hard thing making a map with all this chaos down there but I think the map is not really accurate.
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Megan Ryder
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Posted - 2005.11.13 21:03:00 -
[1182]
Wow, not sure on your timing for the snapshot you seem to have taken. There is one thing saying only update every two weeks, but to grab an instant like that without thought as to what led to that instant seems very misleading.
truly disappointed.
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pershphanie
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Posted - 2005.11.13 21:39:00 -
[1183]
Edited by: pershphanie on 13/11/2005 21:39:30 Smash left FE space along time ago. They have no pos's, no kills in FE space. They have moved to stain I believe. So why the warzone marker? I challange the map maker to find one member of smash in our space. |

Fred0
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Posted - 2005.11.13 21:45:00 -
[1184]
The least accurate map you ever made it seems.
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Pepperami
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Posted - 2005.11.13 22:15:00 -
[1185]
Foundation still on the map?  _____________________________________________________
[We're Recruiting!] [http://spankage.co.uk] |

Righteous Fury
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Posted - 2005.11.13 22:25:00 -
[1186]
Exuro Mortis' wars with Imperium/UnAssociated in Aridia have been over for about two weeks.
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Joshua Foiritain
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Posted - 2005.11.13 22:34:00 -
[1187]
Whered the 4th page go? 
Righto, actually forgot about smash, theyll be gone on the soonÖ version. Estoria will be marked as contested between Sa and F/Iron/Razor until i can actually get some accurate info on wtf people are doing down there, cus apparently its not what i was told.
If theres anything else that needs changing in tonights update you better post it now and i show up late for class tommorow morning ill blame ehhh... some of you... ------------------
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Turkantho
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Posted - 2005.11.13 22:39:00 -
[1188]
ty
PS funny typo (i hope)
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Pepperami
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Posted - 2005.11.13 22:41:00 -
[1189]
Foundation marker needs to finally be removed, tbqh. _____________________________________________________
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Joshua Foiritain
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Posted - 2005.11.13 23:12:00 -
[1190]
Overwriting with a hopefully more correct version, will contact G/SA/STC & Oberon tommorow afternoonish about to verifiy some stuff. ------------------
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LTD THOR
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Posted - 2005.11.13 23:51:00 -
[1191]
thank you, joshua..
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Amthrianius
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Posted - 2005.11.14 00:13:00 -
[1192]
RA contest curse and Venal has no marker? 
Seriously Venal is at least a warzone if not contested and as for Curse contested  ---------------
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Atek Carr
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Posted - 2005.11.14 02:02:00 -
[1193]
Originally by: Amthrianius RA contest curse and Venal has no marker? 
Seriously Venal is at least a warzone if not contested and as for Curse contested 
Aye should at least have a warzone marker since a huge portion of our alliance is now living there...
&& Curse contested???
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Syrus666
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Posted - 2005.11.14 02:02:00 -
[1194]
Edited by: Syrus666 on 14/11/2005 02:03:25 Edited by: Syrus666 on 14/11/2005 02:02:58 My noob alt sorry... ^^
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Kyguard
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Posted - 2005.11.14 03:22:00 -
[1195]
The label on the owner of Omist should be Stain- Alliance I believe. --
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Corto Maltese
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Posted - 2005.11.14 05:27:00 -
[1196]
Looks to me that Knights of the Southerncross are the owners of Omist now. ___________________________________ |

Gaven Lok'ri
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Posted - 2005.11.14 06:20:00 -
[1197]
While I have no problem with the Contested marker for Provi...
I must point out that if a single corporation (considering that its PRiory and not TSDS) can contest a region against two separate alliances, JFs presence in Pure Blind should also have been mentioned long ago.
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Xeethra
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Posted - 2005.11.14 10:29:00 -
[1198]
Originally by: Joshua Foiritain Edited by: Joshua Foiritain on 13/11/2005 16:27:02
Latest Version: Latest Pending Changes: Nuttin.
Older Versions: 13.11.107, 25.10.107, 06.10.107, 22.09.107, 13.09.107, 03.09.107, 22.08.107, 16.08.107, 12.08.107, 08.08.107, 27.07.107, 25.07.107, 22.07.107, 20.07.107, 19.07.107, 14.07.107, 07.07.107.
Uve changed nothing,. whose bribing u?
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Joshua Foiritain
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Posted - 2005.11.14 11:31:00 -
[1199]
Originally by: Xeethra
Originally by: Joshua Foiritain Edited by: Joshua Foiritain on 13/11/2005 16:27:02
Latest Version: Latest Pending Changes: Nuttin.
Older Versions: 13.11.107, 25.10.107, 06.10.107, 22.09.107, 13.09.107, 03.09.107, 22.08.107, 16.08.107, 12.08.107, 08.08.107, 27.07.107, 25.07.107, 22.07.107, 20.07.107, 19.07.107, 14.07.107, 07.07.107.
Uve changed nothing,. whose bribing u?
Hit Ctrl+F5 and enjoy the wonderful world of caching.
Originally by: Amthrianius RA contest curse and Venal has no marker? 
Seriously Venal is at least a warzone if not contested and as for Curse contested 
Good point, pls yeah, curse is quite contested seeing as the FFA is holding mining ops, Section XXI has gank quads patrolling the highways and most of the five arent around atm.
Will sort venal in a few minutes though.
Originally by: Gaven Lok'ri While I have no problem with the Contested marker for Provi...
I must point out that if a single corporation (considering that its PRiory and not TSDS) can contest a region against two separate alliances, JFs presence in Pure Blind should also have been mentioned long ago.
Dont remember the exact reasons used back then but as far as im aware JF is fighting alliances that claim space and are friendly towards neutrals. So marking them as a warzone marker or as claiming pure blind would be sending out wrong information towards neutral travelers who might end up believing JF will gun them down.
Perhaps a diffrent marker could be useful here. ------------------
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Darcuese
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Posted - 2005.11.14 11:35:00 -
[1200]
I guess Venal is heaven on earth...peace, love, joy, happynes...and if any sinner even think on doing anything bad there, he will become blind not able to see nothing in the sky, except the stars. Come on my children , lets all play around holding hands by hands singing lolaby ---------------------------------------------------
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DB Preacher
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Posted - 2005.11.14 11:54:00 -
[1201]
Edited by: DB Preacher on 14/11/2005 11:56:18 Concerning Venal, I just thought I'd mention that we spent the weekend up in Venal.
We saw very little had changed from the time that we had left 11 months ago except [5] has moved en masse into H-PA.
There were about 10-15 PA members scattered between PF-QHK and 6NJ (BKG was surprisingly empty). This was on both Saturday and Sunday (the time when historically Alliances are at their peak numbers).
The rest of Venal was dead.
Obviously this was just one weekend but I am sure you can check up on the situation for yourself.
dbp
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Alkad Mzu
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Posted - 2005.11.14 11:55:00 -
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Looks like the latest is a bit b0rked today m8, only loading the top section here (tested in Opera and IE)
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Kartassio
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Posted - 2005.11.14 12:28:00 -
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venal sure have a warzone marked but is not contest.
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DB Preacher
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Posted - 2005.11.14 12:36:00 -
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Originally by: Kartassio venal sure have a warzone marked but is not contest.
Why not?
dbp
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maria stallion
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Posted - 2005.11.14 14:42:00 -
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Originally by: DB Preacher
Originally by: Kartassio venal sure have a warzone marked but is not contest.
Why not?
dbp
because 5 is only staying in 1 system which they have quite a number of people in it, the rest of the space 5 is almost nowhere to be found from what I see.
plus it are npc station so it should be harder to contest the whole region in my opinion.
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DB Preacher
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Posted - 2005.11.14 15:06:00 -
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Edited by: DB Preacher on 14/11/2005 15:07:06 PA are only staying in two systems, PF-QHK and 6NJ. Both are NPC station systems.
This weekend there were less PA in those systems than there were [5] in H-PA.
What is the difference?
dbp
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Trooper B99
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Posted - 2005.11.14 15:11:00 -
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I think the main question the leadership of [5] have to answer is, are they contesting with a view to settling down or is it still a "no-home" roadtrip kinda thing.
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Invisible Touch
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Posted - 2005.11.14 15:21:00 -
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Edited by: Invisible Touch on 14/11/2005 15:28:29
Originally by: DB Preacher Edited by: DB Preacher on 14/11/2005 15:07:06 PA are only staying in two systems, PF-QHK and 6NJ. Both are NPC station systems.
This weekend there were less PA in those systems than there were [5] in H-PA.
What is the difference?
dbp
As you know Venal has only NPC stations and not just the ones in the 3 systems you mentioned. RISK pilots (at least who's left up here) are seen in the PF-QHK station, selling their BS's afaik. No problem with the war marker in Branch though, for their effort so far, and their failed takeover attempt. [5] have a huge presence in H-PA where they have setup a POS, but apart from that all there is are mostly some gang squads attempting to find solo miners or careless NPCers. You also know there was a huge PA/F-E/NBSI fleet of 200+ in response to your own 80+ and [5]'s 80+ this weekend which unfortunately ended with no fun for any of the ppl involved (and no fun for the node also). After that, weekend action was limited to some POS killing and stuff afaik.
P.S. And on a lighter note (but true whatsoever), weather was sunny and warm in the area so most ppl (certainly myself) went sunbathing and beerdrinking. Some nice football games also. 
All of the above are personal views/opinions only and not that of my corp or/and alliance
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Righteous Fury
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Posted - 2005.11.14 15:47:00 -
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Just noticed a typo:
"Estoria" in the contested regions list, should be "Esoteria" 
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thoth foc
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Posted - 2005.11.14 16:11:00 -
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Originally by: Invisible Touch You also know there was a huge PA/F-E/NBSI fleet of 200+ in response to your own 80+ and [5]'s 80+ this weekend which unfortunately ended with no fun for any of the ppl involved (and no fun for the node also). After that, weekend action was limited to some POS killing and stuff afaik.
PA/F-E/NBSI's only attempts to defend the area consist of these "shows of strength" otherwise known as they try and kill the node enuff so that PVP is impossible..
appart from that, they hide in stations when hostiles are seen..
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maria stallion
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Posted - 2005.11.14 16:52:00 -
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Originally by: thoth foc
Originally by: Invisible Touch You also know there was a huge PA/F-E/NBSI fleet of 200+ in response to your own 80+ and [5]'s 80+ this weekend which unfortunately ended with no fun for any of the ppl involved (and no fun for the node also). After that, weekend action was limited to some POS killing and stuff afaik.
PA/F-E/NBSI's only attempts to defend the area consist of these "shows of strength" otherwise known as they try and kill the node enuff so that PVP is impossible..
appart from that, they hide in stations when hostiles are seen..
that funny though if 5 had any stations left they would do the same, but now they safespot when we have equal numbers, 5 still roams around in small gank squads through pa and F-E space, plus F-E don't safespot we have even engaged you when we where outnumbered 2 to 1...
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thoth foc
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Posted - 2005.11.14 17:33:00 -
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Originally by: maria stallion 5 still roams around in small gank squads through pa and F-E space
in all fairness we dont ahve a big interest in jita..
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thedragoon
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Posted - 2005.11.14 21:25:00 -
[1213]
Burn Eden Attacking the bottam part of ASCN space with the amount of kills we getting i dont think it would be fair to leave us out IMO
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Nifel
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Posted - 2005.11.15 09:33:00 -
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Originally by: thedragoon Burn Eden Attacking the bottam part of ASCN space with the amount of kills we getting i dont think it would be fair to leave us out IMO
Come back to Delve :(.
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Shayla Sh'inlux
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Posted - 2005.11.15 09:47:00 -
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Regardless of who shoots who and who has better numbers and who safespots more often, The Five only contest H-PA and are nowhere to be found anywhere else in Venal.
PA has had a long claim over Venal and to contst the entire region you need more than just sit 30 people in H-PA and send gank squads to Q-CAB and IMK.
A war marker over H-PA? Sure. A contestement of the region? Not even close.
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thoth foc
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Posted - 2005.11.15 11:17:00 -
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Originally by: Shayla Sh'inlux Regardless of who shoots who and who has better numbers and who safespots more often, The Five only contest H-PA and are nowhere to be found anywhere else in Venal.
I dont think it's up to you where we contest.. The only reason you dont find us outside H-PA is that you dont look.. u automatically assume those little blips are PA NPC'ing :)
i had a nice little chat with dbp in pf and spent most of the wkd watching PA stay docked in p-v havent been in H-PA for over a week now.. better intel ftw?
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IcedBach Jr
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Posted - 2005.11.15 12:53:00 -
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XB has left SE hence, no more SE.
No more contesting 4gq to dss.
SA has almost no precense in Esoteria for the moment.
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Gyro DuAquin1
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Posted - 2005.11.15 13:10:00 -
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IRON/RAZOR/G having some fun with ASCN now. We have just begun any maybe ASCN will kick us out shortly, well see.
And Esoteria is not contested, we have no intrestet in Esoteria and the only SA ive seen have been up in Stain. So Esoteria is our Beachhead, without any intrested in the region, we are just here for Corpses and cans.
Thats mostly it.
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uberscouts
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Posted - 2005.11.15 17:42:00 -
[1219]
typo on omist?...
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FinalHellSpawn
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Posted - 2005.11.15 18:25:00 -
[1220]
Edited by: FinalHellSpawn on 15/11/2005 18:26:23 BoB Doesn't OWN Fountain.....They have ONE small POS in 7bx and that's it. We run and own this turff and I don't see why you show them so much love. FIX IT!
Final
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Dell
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Posted - 2005.11.15 18:51:00 -
[1221]
Edited by: Dell on 15/11/2005 18:51:35
Originally by: FinalHellSpawn Edited by: FinalHellSpawn on 15/11/2005 18:26:23 BoB Doesn't OWN Fountain.....They have ONE small POS in 7bx and that's it. We run and own this turff and I don't see why you show them so much love. FIX IT!
Final
This is a false statement
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Zenst
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Posted - 2005.11.15 18:56:00 -
[1222]
Originally by: FinalHellSpawn Edited by: FinalHellSpawn on 15/11/2005 18:26:23 *SNIP* We run and own this turff and *SNIP*. FIX IT!
Final
Why yes you are correct, indeed you do run. Though I admit I had no idea you went off and did gardening inbetween running.
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Rod Blaine
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Posted - 2005.11.15 18:57:00 -
[1223]
Originally by: FinalHellSpawn Edited by: FinalHellSpawn on 15/11/2005 18:26:23 BoB Doesn't OWN Fountain.....They have ONE small POS in 7bx and that's it. We run and own this turff and I don't see why you show them so much love. FIX IT!
Final
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DB Preacher
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Posted - 2005.11.15 18:58:00 -
[1224]
Originally by: FinalHellSpawn Edited by: FinalHellSpawn on 15/11/2005 18:26:23 BoB Doesn't OWN Fountain.....They have ONE small POS in 7bx and that's it. We run and own this turff and I don't see why you show them so much love. FIX IT!
Final
No.
dbp
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Alasse Cuthalion
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Posted - 2005.11.15 18:59:00 -
[1225]
Edited by: Alasse Cuthalion on 15/11/2005 19:01:45
Originally by: FinalHellSpawn Edited by: FinalHellSpawn on 15/11/2005 18:26:23 BoB Doesn't OWN Fountain.....They have ONE small POS in 7bx and that's it. We run and own this turff and I don't see why you show them so much love. FIX IT!
Final
Look numbnuts, I'm getting tired of saying this. Your little ganksquads have zero effect on our operations in Fountain, occasionally you get lucky and you catch someone unawares but that's it.
Running ganksquads through a region does not mean you claim it. If that was the case, we would claim roughly 70% of space at the time of writing.
Whenever VC brings a fleet worthy of potentially causing us problems it's smacked down. I'd like to link you to our killboard, specifically http://www.killboard.net/?p=stats_day&d=2005-11-11 but unfortunatly forum rules prevent me from doing so.
WTB: Smacktalker infestation marker.
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HC MasiEEE
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Posted - 2005.11.15 19:02:00 -
[1226]
Originally by: FinalHellSpawn Edited by: FinalHellSpawn on 15/11/2005 18:26:23 BoB Doesn't OWN Fountain.....They have ONE small POS in 7bx and that's it. We run and own this turff and I don't see why you show them so much love. FIX IT!
Final
There are NO infidels taking over our space.
My feelings as assual we will POD them ALL (except the smelly ones) ____________ HC MasiEEE
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Lunas Feelgood
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Posted - 2005.11.15 19:08:00 -
[1227]
LMAO
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Angry Dan
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Posted - 2005.11.15 22:11:00 -
[1228]
Huzzah Federation disagrees that loser providence is contested. I won't debate or start a smack war in this thread, please see my eve mail as to the reasons.
Convo my alt or I ingame if you need further information. ++++++++++++++++++++ Founder member of the Huzzah Federation. Remember, the grass is greener on our side of the fence Widowmakers director Fear my kneepads of allure!
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Angry Dan
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Posted - 2005.11.15 22:11:00 -
[1229]
Edited by: Angry Dan on 15/11/2005 22:12:26 double post 4tl. 
I fecking hate lag  ++++++++++++++++++++ Founder member of the Huzzah Federation. Remember, the grass is greener on our side of the fence Widowmakers director Fear my kneepads of allure!
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Drilla
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Posted - 2005.11.15 22:35:00 -
[1230]
.5. Contests all of Venal - we just base out of H-PA.
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Shayla Sh'inlux
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Posted - 2005.11.15 23:13:00 -
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So if I take 30 guys with me and base out of HLW I contest curse? 
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Crusari
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Posted - 2005.11.16 00:07:00 -
[1232]
Originally by: FinalHellSpawn Edited by: FinalHellSpawn on 15/11/2005 18:26:23 BoB Doesn't OWN Fountain.....They have ONE small POS in 7bx and that's it. We run and own this turff and I don't see why you show them so much love. FIX IT!
Final
I have to disagree with him aswell, but I'm no official VC spokesperson. First of all I havent seen him around in core so I dunno where he gets his info from. Just put a warzone in Fountain from VC.
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Dianabolic
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Posted - 2005.11.16 00:20:00 -
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Originally by: Crusari Just put a warzone in Fountain from VC.
Agreed.
Originally by: Thomas Jefferson A society that will trade a little liberty for a little security will lose both and deserve neither.
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Kunming
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Posted - 2005.11.16 01:06:00 -
[1234]
Originally by: Dianabolic
Originally by: Crusari Just put a warzone in Fountain from VC.
Agreed.
Even though I dont like BoB, that gains respect ..of which we have so less around these days
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Drilla
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Posted - 2005.11.16 02:16:00 -
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Originally by: Shayla Sh'inlux So if I take 30 guys with me and base out of HLW I contest curse? 
If you move the major part of your pvp force (50? lol) to hlw and base out of there (live there, logistics in plce etc. the you contest it 
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DB Preacher
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Posted - 2005.11.16 08:03:00 -
[1236]
Originally by: Dianabolic
Originally by: Crusari Just put a warzone in Fountain from VC.
Agreed.
Already a warzone on Fountain, has been for a long time.
dbp
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Beringe
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Posted - 2005.11.16 08:44:00 -
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Originally by: Trooper B99 I think the main question the leadership of [5] have to answer is, are they contesting with a view to settling down or is it still a "no-home" roadtrip kinda thing.
I agree.
If you don't claim space, I don't see how you can contest ownership. Warzone sounds about right, unless [5] are there to stay.
Same thing with .G. in Stain. They've already said they are not there to claim it, although it might be a different situation since they were setting up POSes and such. ------------------------------------------- Sometimes, I wake up but keep on dreaming. |

Shayla Sh'inlux
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Posted - 2005.11.16 08:53:00 -
[1238]
Originally by: Drilla
Originally by: Shayla Sh'inlux So if I take 30 guys with me and base out of HLW I contest curse? 
If you move the major part of your pvp force (50? lol) to hlw and base out of there (live there, logistics in plce etc. the you contest it 
Then, by your own definition, you don't contest Venal.
Good job.
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thoth foc
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Posted - 2005.11.16 10:03:00 -
[1239]
Edited by: thoth foc on 16/11/2005 10:04:18
Originally by: Shayla Sh'inlux So if I take 30 guys with me and base out of HLW I contest curse? 
we are more active in the area than the previous "owners", we have been for quite a number of weeks..
i'm more interested in how your claiming PA are contesting the area with us.. it is us that has to look for them to engage.. they came looking for us only once in a number of weeks, and only with F-E and NBSI to hold their hands..
they stay docked mostly..
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DB Preacher
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Posted - 2005.11.16 11:11:00 -
[1240]
Edited by: DB Preacher on 16/11/2005 11:11:33 Thoth, I think what peeps are getting at is that if you want to contest Venal then you need to get one of the high ranking [5] members to make a simple post in this thread stating something like:
"Hi, we are [5] and we are here to stay in Venal."
Keeps it nice and easy mate ;)
dbp
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thoth foc
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Posted - 2005.11.16 11:49:00 -
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Originally by: DB Preacher Edited by: DB Preacher on 16/11/2005 11:11:33 Thoth, I think what peeps are getting at is that if you want to contest Venal then you need to get one of the high ranking [5] members to make a simple post in this thread stating something like:
"Hi, we are [5] and we are here to stay in Venal."
Keeps it nice and easy mate ;)
dbp
maybe.. i assumed drilla's post covered that.. (/me is just peon, polictics is for others..)
it just seems strange F-E are more active defending PA controlled space than PA.. it's more like a F-E Protectorate than a PA held area.. F-E jumping up and down saying "really PA owns it"
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DB Preacher
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Posted - 2005.11.16 11:56:00 -
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Haha,
Reading > *
Sorry, I missed Drilla's message :p
Thread could do with being tidied up tbh and peeps prolly should have a read of the rules at the top of the thread.
Me included :x
dbp
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Drilla
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Posted - 2005.11.16 13:09:00 -
[1243]
Originally by: DB Preacher Haha,
Reading > *
Sorry, I missed Drilla's message :p
You hurt my feelings 
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Drilla
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Posted - 2005.11.16 13:12:00 -
[1244]
Originally by: Shayla Sh'inlux
Originally by: Drilla
Originally by: Shayla Sh'inlux So if I take 30 guys with me and base out of HLW I contest curse? 
If you move the major part of your pvp force (50? lol) to hlw and base out of there (live there, logistics in plce etc. the you contest it 
Then, by your own definition, you don't contest Venal.
Good job.
Well we've moved more PVP'ers to H-PA than you entire alliance can field, so your point is? Stop trying to make it sound like we just have a coupple of guys in H-PA, you know damn well that the only time you came to H-PA to fight was when you came with 220 from several alliances.
Funny we had 90 people logged on at that time there when you say we've only moved 50 people there (all timezones included).

Venal is contested by [5] if you disagree, kick us out of Venal - simple as that. 
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Posted - 2005.11.16 13:19:00 -
[1245]
To reiterate, I want to know the motivation behind making Venal a contested area.
I couldn't care less whether or not the map is marked as contested or warzone, since what's on the map doesn't change what's in space. Neither does it change who and how many shoot at me.
What I find annoying is the double standard being used here.
Josh specifically states you need to do more than just have some presence for a few weeks in an NPC-station area to contest it. Ie, look at Curse, where RA surely have presence, but don't get to contest it mapwise because they 'have to do better than that'.
Then Five parks a bunch of their PvP'ers in Venal, claims they have chased PA out, who in reality were defending Branch from RISK and after a week and a half Josh puts the contestment lines on Venal.
On a sidenote, if you have a 'major part of your PvPers' parked in H-PA to contest Venal, then what's left in Curse that makes The Five claim it uncontested?
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Rod Blaine
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Posted - 2005.11.16 13:47:00 -
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Quote:
Ie, look at Curse, where RA surely have presence, but don't get to contest it mapwise because they 'have to do better than that'.
Look, i couldnt care either way about venal, but as far as i can see the latest Map shows Curse as contested between [5] and Red.
And as to 50-90 [5] being in venal meaning there's none in curse goes. If I'm shooting someone in outer ring the one minute, I can be shooting another guy in Delve the other, that's what multiple chars are good for. _______________________________________________
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Joshua Foiritain
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Posted - 2005.11.16 14:17:00 -
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Originally by: Shayla Sh'inlux To reiterate, I want to know the motivation behind making Venal a contested area.
I couldn't care less whether or not the map is marked as contested or warzone, since what's on the map doesn't change what's in space. Neither does it change who and how many shoot at me.
What I find annoying is the double standard being used here.
Josh specifically states you need to do more than just have some presence for a few weeks in an NPC-station area to contest it. Ie, look at Curse, where RA surely have presence, but don't get to contest it mapwise because they 'have to do better than that'.
Then Five parks a bunch of their PvP'ers in Venal, claims they have chased PA out, who in reality were defending Branch from RISK and after a week and a half Josh puts the contestment lines on Venal.
On a sidenote, if you have a 'major part of your PvPers' parked in H-PA to contest Venal, then what's left in Curse that makes The Five claim it uncontested?
My latest version shows curse as quite contested. Why? Because XIII (Not in the RA alliance but fighting for them) squads can roam freely trough the region without anyone stopping them. ThereÆs only a minimal amount of 5 members left, making it contested.
WhereÆd the rest of the five go? Venal apparently, they moved their entire fleet into the region and claim theyÆre not leaving anytime soon. Which makes it contested. ------------------
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CivaluZ
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Posted - 2005.11.16 14:19:00 -
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SE is not contesting stain.(only 2-3 corps left in it and species and xb left.)
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LoxyRider
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Posted - 2005.11.16 15:25:00 -
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The Loxy No Bull**** Statement on Curse .
Curse = The home of the [5], or the spiritual home at least. Whatever the situation is Curse has been the home of most of the [5] corps for years now and it will always be considered home. Whatever the situation is if the [5] decide to go back home we will do so and there will be no question of who owns it in "map terms" when we are there.
Currently however we are not there. Most of the [5] are stationed up north in venal and we do choose to contest its status (venal) at this time. Are we moving up here or will we be gone in a month? I dont know, frankly as a region its much better then curse but it isnt the same if you get me .
So going back to the point, [5] consider Curse our home, we have a lot of corp assets still there, we have a lot of members there and when we decide to go back at any time we will do as we please in what we consider our region. In "Map terms" however i think its fair to say at this time we dont have a substancial force down there, and while im not there myself and so cant see the situation the contested marker does not bother me. As you've said Shayla, the map doesnt matter, what happens in game does .
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Darkrydar
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Posted - 2005.11.16 17:53:00 -
[1250]
Originally by: Shayla Sh'inlux Edited by: Shayla Sh''inlux on 16/11/2005 13:23:24 To reiterate, I want to know the motivation behind making Venal a contested area.
I couldn't care less whether or not the map is marked as contested or warzone, since what's on the map doesn't change what's in space. Neither does it change who and how many shoot at me.
What I find annoying is the double standard being used here.
Josh specifically states you need to do more than just have some presence for a few weeks in an NPC-station area to contest it. Ie, look at Curse, where RA surely have presence, but don't get to contest it mapwise because they 'have to do better than that'.
Then Five parks a bunch of their PvP'ers in Venal, claims they have chased PA out, who in reality were defending Branch from RISK and after a week and a half Josh puts the contestment lines on Venal.
On a sidenote, if you have a 'major part of your PvPers' parked in H-PA to contest Venal, then what's left in Curse that makes The Five claim it uncontested?
(btw Drilla the 50 PvP'ers was your own number - I kinda assumed it was flamebait referring to F-E's total PvP capacity which is kinda funny since you also refer to our 'lame' 200-men blobs...)
SO much rubbish in one post.
Loxy's statement about coverts the truth.
Oh btw, that 200 pilots was maybe 1/3 (tops) F-E. Fuzzy math 4tl dude.
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Shayla Sh'inlux
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Posted - 2005.11.16 20:30:00 -
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Thanks for your clarification on Curse, Loxyrider. Good to see some actual content in a .5. post instead of the usual garbage.
And to the guy above me:
Ooh more flaming \o/.
If you've got nothing to add about the map, go to one of the other 15 threads where the less-respectful 80% of your alliance is posting away. You'd fit just fine. Loxy has enough credibility without you backing him up ok? Probably more, even.
Btw, there was 120 F-E in that blob, but whatever floats your boat.
Now can a mod clean this thread up a bit?
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ParMizaN
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Posted - 2005.11.16 20:45:00 -
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*sigh* remember this thread is not for flaming and discusson. as an outside, the way i see it is that both curse and venal are contested.
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Awalance
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Posted - 2005.11.16 22:38:00 -
[1253]
Originally by: Joshua Foiritain
Originally by: Shayla Sh'inlux To reiterate, I want to know the motivation behind making Venal a contested area.
I couldn't care less whether or not the map is marked as contested or warzone, since what's on the map doesn't change what's in space. Neither does it change who and how many shoot at me.
What I find annoying is the double standard being used here.
Josh specifically states you need to do more than just have some presence for a few weeks in an NPC-station area to contest it. Ie, look at Curse, where RA surely have presence, but don't get to contest it mapwise because they 'have to do better than that'.
Then Five parks a bunch of their PvP'ers in Venal, claims they have chased PA out, who in reality were defending Branch from RISK and after a week and a half Josh puts the contestment lines on Venal.
On a sidenote, if you have a 'major part of your PvPers' parked in H-PA to contest Venal, then what's left in Curse that makes The Five claim it uncontested?
My latest version shows curse as quite contested. Why? Because XIII (Not in the RA alliance but fighting for them) squads can roam freely trough the region without anyone stopping them. ThereÆs only a minimal amount of 5 members left, making it contested.
WhereÆd the rest of the five go? Venal apparently, they moved their entire fleet into the region and claim theyÆre not leaving anytime soon. Which makes it contested.
Section XIII are doing only ganks in curse ...RA are not araund same [5] few other corps who are there when we try to get a fight section xiii loged or running in there corner .Hardly to beleve some one can own curse . ------------------------
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Shifu
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Posted - 2005.11.16 22:56:00 -
[1254]
Originally by: CivaluZ SE is not contesting stain.(only 2-3 corps left in it and species and xb left.)
 
current target
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pardux
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Posted - 2005.11.16 23:55:00 -
[1255]
Originally by: Shifu
Originally by: CivaluZ SE is not contesting stain.(only 2-3 corps left in it and species and xb left.)
 
:o rejoined
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Joycalyn
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Posted - 2005.11.17 00:07:00 -
[1256]
Last I checked the only group claiming curse was the Angel Cartel..best marked as an alliance warzone-similar to syndicate.
The only forces fighting there are RA, locals, CHIMP, and -V-. None of which claim it, just there for fights really.
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Robapin
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Posted - 2005.11.17 05:47:00 -
[1257]
lol awalance , you can just now write on forum , or maybe take your Tempest and come at 300km of gate Robapin
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Shin Ra
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Posted - 2005.11.17 11:51:00 -
[1258]
Originally by: Shayla Sh'inlux So if I take 30 guys with me and base out of HLW I contest curse? 
If they are forum *****s then yes. If not, then you don't exist on the map.
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Seleene
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Posted - 2005.11.17 12:08:00 -
[1259]
Originally by: Shin Ra
Originally by: Shayla Sh'inlux So if I take 30 guys with me and base out of HLW I contest curse? 
If they are forum *****s then yes. If not, then you don't exist on the map.
There's a scary amount of truth in that statement...   -
The REAL Eve Political Map! |

Hast
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Posted - 2005.11.17 12:17:00 -
[1260]
Originally by: Seleene
Originally by: Shin Ra
Originally by: Shayla Sh'inlux So if I take 30 guys with me and base out of HLW I contest curse? 
If they are forum *****s then yes. If not, then you don't exist on the map.
There's a scary amount of truth in that statement...  

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Shyalud
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Posted - 2005.11.17 12:47:00 -
[1261]
Edited by: Shyalud on 17/11/2005 12:49:02 8. -V- Surrendered, SA Surrendered, The [5] is in Venal getting hammered.
FE space is secure.
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DjDangle
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Posted - 2005.11.17 12:52:00 -
[1262]
Originally by: Shyalud Edited by: Shyalud on 17/11/2005 12:49:02 8. -V- Surrendered, SA Surrendered, The [5] is in Venal getting hammered.
FE space is secure.
V didnt surrender, we just didnt pay the war bill. Your the ones that didnt make it mutual if I remember...
Wonder why that was? ------------
"On My Signal, Unleash Hell" |

Hast
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Posted - 2005.11.17 12:56:00 -
[1263]
Originally by: Shyalud The [5] is in Venal getting hammered.
If hammered as in drunk then yes 
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Raid
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Posted - 2005.11.17 14:53:00 -
[1264]
Edited by: Raid on 17/11/2005 14:58:03
Originally by: Joycalyn Last I checked the only group claiming curse was the Angel Cartel..best marked as an alliance warzone-similar to syndicate.
The only forces fighting there are RA, locals, CHIMP, and -V-. None of which claim it, just there for fights really.
The Curse Coalition has claimed curse since the first few months of the game . Others come and go but we're always here. We've been here just as long as those foolish Angels! -----------------------
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Kyle Caldrel
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Posted - 2005.11.17 15:15:00 -
[1265]
Originally by: Seleene
Originally by: Shin Ra
Originally by: Shayla Sh'inlux So if I take 30 guys with me and base out of HLW I contest curse? 
If they are forum *****s then yes. If not, then you don't exist on the map.
There's a scary amount of truth in that statement...  
Josh is not omnicient, so he needs people to give him a nudge to point out what needs to be changed.
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Darkrydar
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Posted - 2005.11.17 17:57:00 -
[1266]
Edited by: Darkrydar on 17/11/2005 17:57:36
Originally by: Shyalud Edited by: Shyalud on 17/11/2005 12:49:02 8. -V- Surrendered, SA Surrendered, The [5] is in Venal getting hammered.
FE space is secure.
Ladies and gentalmen, your typical F-E member on display...
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Rilewedge
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Posted - 2005.11.17 19:56:00 -
[1267]
The Fountain Alliance will be fighting in the fountain region until our rightful claim is restored. No amount of propaganda will change this fact. What was ours will be again, end of story. Others claim that no resistance is being offered and that any large fleet is dealt with swiftly. The statement supports our presence in the region. We do not claim to win every fight just that were there fighting. As such removing the Fountain Alliance vs. XeÆlas, Bob war zone marker from the map is wrong. We do not have forum warriors looking for things to post on so we missed our removal from the map.
Click me for REZ forum Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum viditur |

DjDangle
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Posted - 2005.11.17 20:13:00 -
[1268]
Originally by: Darkrydar Edited by: Darkrydar on 17/11/2005 17:57:36
Originally by: Shyalud Edited by: Shyalud on 17/11/2005 12:49:02 8. -V- Surrendered, SA Surrendered, The [5] is in Venal getting hammered.
FE space is secure.
Ladies and gentalmen, your typical F-E member on display...
/signed ------------
"On My Signal, Unleash Hell" |

HeadHunta II
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Posted - 2005.11.17 21:26:00 -
[1269]
Originally by: Shyalud Edited by: Shyalud on 17/11/2005 20:05:33 Edited by: Shyalud on 17/11/2005 12:49:02 8. -V- retracted, SA Surrendered, The [5] is in Venal getting hammered.
FE space is secure.
Blah, V didnt "surrender". I already talked to your alliance leadership to get the facts straight. A public statement of V, including facts about our plans, what happened and what will happen will follow soon.
And to you: You are part of the alliance - leadership? No? Then dont come along here and post rumors instead of facts.If you are part of it, well, you got something wrong there :)
This thread should be for officials only anyway. Would be maybe a good choice to make this area readable for all, but let only alliance officials leave the opportunity to POST here. Should help to keep this a bit more civil + easier for the mapmaker + way more informative. Give alliance officials just another usergroup, permission mask or whatever, or just create an area for this. Just a suggestion.
And to Joshua: Can you finally remove this warzone out of GW?? Thx. We will tell you if there is a real warzone again.
"-V- Vice President" "-V- Minister of Foreign affairs" "CEO Ascendancy-Inc."
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pershphanie
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Posted - 2005.11.17 21:44:00 -
[1270]
Originally by: HeadHunta II
Originally by: Shyalud Edited by: Shyalud on 17/11/2005 20:05:33 Edited by: Shyalud on 17/11/2005 12:49:02 8. -V- retracted, SA Surrendered, The [5] is in Venal getting hammered.
FE space is secure.
Blah, V didnt "surrender". I already talked to your alliance leadership to get the facts straight. A public statement of V, including facts about our plans, what happened and what will happen will follow soon.
And to you: You are part of the alliance - leadership? No? Then dont come along here and post rumors instead of facts.If you are part of it, well, you got something wrong there :)
This thread should be for officials only anyway. Would be maybe a good choice to make this area readable for all, but let only alliance officials leave the opportunity to POST here. Should help to keep this a bit more civil + easier for the mapmaker + way more informative. Give alliance officials just another usergroup, permission mask or whatever, or just create an area for this. Just a suggestion.
And to Joshua: Can you finally remove this warzone out of GW?? Thx. We will tell you if there is a real warzone again.
/signed |
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Joshua Foiritain
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Posted - 2005.11.17 21:48:00 -
[1271]
Originally by: HeadHunta II And to Joshua: Can you finally remove this warzone out of GW?? Thx. We will tell you if there is a real warzone again.
What warzone? Oh you mean the one i removed last week?  ------------------
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Shyalud
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Posted - 2005.11.17 23:02:00 -
[1272]
Edited by: Shyalud on 17/11/2005 23:03:24
You're absolutely right, HeadHunta. I meant to say retracted...not surrendered. Edited original post to clarify that.
Certainly no smack was intended towards -V-. I've been very impressed with your members actions.
Appologies for an unintentional misrepresentation of facts.
Shyalud
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DjDangle
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Posted - 2005.11.18 00:03:00 -
[1273]
Originally by: Joshua Foiritain
Originally by: HeadHunta II And to Joshua: Can you finally remove this warzone out of GW?? Thx. We will tell you if there is a real warzone again.
What warzone? Oh you mean the one i removed last week? 
lol, map updates 4tw \o/ ------------
"On My Signal, Unleash Hell" |

Nork
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Posted - 2005.11.18 10:50:00 -
[1274]
Edited by: Nork on 18/11/2005 10:50:21
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HeadHunta II
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Posted - 2005.11.18 10:51:00 -
[1275]
Alt posts for teh win 
Originally by: Joshua Foiritain
Originally by: HeadHunta II And to Joshua: Can you finally remove this warzone out of GW?? Thx. We will tell you if there is a real warzone again.
What warzone? Oh you mean the one i removed last week? 
K, next time i look before i start moaning 
"-V- Vice President" "-V- Minister of Foreign affairs" "CEO Ascendancy-Inc."
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Elenia Kheynes
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Posted - 2005.11.18 10:56:00 -
[1276]
Originally by: Seleene
Originally by: Shin Ra
Originally by: Shayla Sh'inlux So if I take 30 guys with me and base out of HLW I contest curse? 
If they are forum *****s then yes. If not, then you don't exist on the map.
There's a scary amount of truth in that statement...  
You could conquer the universe with the MC then 
Dear friendly customer... Can I have your money ?
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Alasse Cuthalion
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Posted - 2005.11.18 11:07:00 -
[1277]
Originally by: Rilewedge The Fountain Alliance will be fighting in the fountain region until our rightful claim is restored. No amount of propaganda will change this fact. What was ours will be again, end of story. Others claim that no resistance is being offered and that any large fleet is dealt with swiftly. The statement supports our presence in the region. We do not claim to win every fight just that were there fighting. As such removing the Fountain Alliance vs. XeÆlas, Bob war zone marker from the map is wrong. We do not have forum warriors looking for things to post on so we missed our removal from the map.
What I said was in the context of VC's inability to do any damage. FA don't even rank that highly, you're a "nothing".
FA will never "reclaim" Fountain in its current state, there are lone individuals flying around getting ganked but that's about it.
FA are a stain, not a fighting force.
Current RKK Ranking: (CAL12) Shogun |

Kyguard
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Posted - 2005.11.18 15:56:00 -
[1278]
Lets keep this thread civil and up to the topic please. As Headhunta already pointed, there's no need for people to be making out-of-topic comments for every single time a person posts.
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God is on the side with the best artillery |

M0RPH
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Posted - 2005.11.18 17:30:00 -
[1279]
Originally by: Alasse Cuthalion
Originally by: Rilewedge The Fountain Alliance will be fighting in the fountain region until our rightful claim is restored. No amount of propaganda will change this fact. What was ours will be again, end of story. Others claim that no resistance is being offered and that any large fleet is dealt with swiftly. The statement supports our presence in the region. We do not claim to win every fight just that were there fighting. As such removing the Fountain Alliance vs. XeÆlas, Bob war zone marker from the map is wrong. We do not have forum warriors looking for things to post on so we missed our removal from the map.
What I said was in the context of VC's inability to do any damage. FA don't even rank that highly, you're a "nothing".
FA will never "reclaim" Fountain in its current state, there are lone individuals flying around getting ganked but that's about it.
FA are a stain, not a fighting force.
Ask your friends in Evolution if we are still here. They are the main corp we have had engagements with. You can see that if you take a look at your killboard, even though some of your alliance members did not post their losses.
We don't want a forum war here. All we want is our warzone marker because we are still fighting and we are getting kills.
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TWD
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Posted - 2005.11.18 20:01:00 -
[1280]
Originally by: M0RPH
Ask your friends in Evolution if we are still here. They are the main corp we have had engagements with. You can see that if you take a look at your killboard, even though some of your alliance members did not post their losses.
We don't want a forum war here. All we want is our warzone marker because we are still fighting and we are getting kills.
I don't see any organized effort, just a few individuals. Not more activity than the average random corporation pirating in our space. |
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Yo Fore
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Posted - 2005.11.18 21:38:00 -
[1281]
No organised effort? You should see your personal losses as proof to the fact there is a organised effort. Why else would you be there unless you just like losing ships.

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TWD
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Posted - 2005.11.18 22:19:00 -
[1282]
Originally by: Yo Fore No organised effort? You should see your personal losses as proof to the fact there is a organised effort. Why else would you be there unless you just like losing ships.

Like I said, I just see a few individuals.
I could post numbers about kills & losses, but that would not be very nice. |

Archonon
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Posted - 2005.11.18 22:27:00 -
[1283]
Originally by: Awalance
Section XIII are doing only ganks in curse ...RA are not araund same [5] few other corps who are there when we try to get a fight section xiii loged or running in there corner .Hardly to beleve some one can own curse .
Awalance check video of XIII on forum, u'll see a nice ship called "awalance" runing (jumping) during a fleet battle (not a gank).    u blob at 100 km from every celestial object, u claim nothing.
M.corp and friendSS...SS are the only .5. active presence in Curse atm, and there is no dout in case of return of .5. that'll change but it's not the case atm. "Contested region" could have many reasons and senses, but same state = hostiles everywhere/everytime _______________________ Lokan > fire Lokan > what's up with section 13? Lokan > they flaming us on the forums
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Yo Fore
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Posted - 2005.11.18 22:39:00 -
[1284]
Very true, I see your killboards and I know what our losses are and what yours are. I doubt you would really like to post them, alittle mud on the face would be coming for you. So, as was stated earlier, Fountain is still a warzone against FA.
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TWD
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Posted - 2005.11.18 23:54:00 -
[1285]
Originally by: Yo Fore Very true, I see your killboards and I know what our losses are and what yours are. I doubt you would really like to post them, alittle mud on the face would be coming for you. So, as was stated earlier, Fountain is still a warzone against FA.
I guess I'll take the bait then, since you also said that we like to lose ships - the killratio is 4:1 in our favor. you can see it at our killboard.
I object against a warzone, since FA simply lacks in having active people here. |

Yo Fore
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Posted - 2005.11.19 02:49:00 -
[1286]
Originally by: TWD
Originally by: Yo Fore Very true, I see your killboards and I know what our losses are and what yours are. I doubt you would really like to post them, alittle mud on the face would be coming for you. So, as was stated earlier, Fountain is still a warzone against FA.
I guess I'll take the bait then, since you also said that we like to lose ships - the killratio is 4:1 in our favor. you can see it at our killboard.
I object against a warzone, since FA simply lacks in having active people here.
The fact you are still discussing the issue with me proves my point. Fountain is still a warzone and your puppet alliance there is dying, as well as any of the BoB that come to help them.
Warzone it is until you remove us.
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reef
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Posted - 2005.11.19 08:57:00 -
[1287]
Edited by: reef on 19/11/2005 08:56:43
_____________________________________________ For all your BS needs, buy XiiX Technologies.
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Stratego
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Posted - 2005.11.19 08:59:00 -
[1288]
Yo Fore, how would you know what the situation in Fountain is? You havent been there since february.
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Yo Fore
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Posted - 2005.11.19 13:56:00 -
[1289]
Originally by: Stratego Yo Fore, how would you know what the situation in Fountain is? You havent been there since february.
I have mentioned this before, my fighting account is Fast Track and he is always there.
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Dianabolic
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Posted - 2005.11.19 14:26:00 -
[1290]
You've participated in 13 kills and died 21 times.
Originally by: Thomas Jefferson A society that will trade a little liberty for a little security will lose both and deserve neither.
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Cmd Woodlouse
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Posted - 2005.11.19 14:33:00 -
[1291]
Originally by: Dianabolic You've participated in 13 kills and died 21 times.
Rofl, totally owned 
-G- Pink Power
Darko1107 > so play a fluffy game Darko1107 > like pokemon |

Yo Fore
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Posted - 2005.11.19 16:48:00 -
[1292]
Originally by: Dianabolic You've participated in 13 kills and died 21 times.
Yeah yeah, per your kill board which not all kills are posted. Plus it doesn't show all the Xelas kills, which is a BoB puppet alliance. But that does prove there is a warzone.
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j0sephine
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Posted - 2005.11.19 17:03:00 -
[1293]
"Yeah yeah, per your kill board which not all kills are posted. Plus it doesn't show all the Xelas kills, which is a BoB puppet alliance. But that does prove there is a warzone."
... your dying in Fountain once every three weeks (10 ships with associated pods over course of 8 months) and killing something every 6 weeks on average... is a proof the place is a warzone..? o,O
think more people die in Jita alone daily due to random accidents...
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Dianabolic
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Posted - 2005.11.19 17:22:00 -
[1294]
Originally by: Yo Fore
Originally by: Dianabolic You've participated in 13 kills and died 21 times.
Yeah yeah, per your kill board which not all kills are posted. Plus it doesn't show all the Xelas kills, which is a BoB puppet alliance. But that does prove there is a warzone.
That old chestnut again, huh?
If there is a loss or kill missing, send it to us, until then, stfu.
Originally by: Thomas Jefferson A society that will trade a little liberty for a little security will lose both and deserve neither.
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Yo Fore
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Posted - 2005.11.19 17:50:00 -
[1295]
Originally by: Dianabolic
Originally by: Yo Fore
Originally by: Dianabolic You've participated in 13 kills and died 21 times.
Yeah yeah, per your kill board which not all kills are posted. Plus it doesn't show all the Xelas kills, which is a BoB puppet alliance. But that does prove there is a warzone.
That old chestnut again, huh?
If there is a loss or kill missing, send it to us, until then, stfu.
A bit touchy are we? We have sent plenty of mails complaining of lack of kill posts. Need the warzone put back in Fountain. And you BoB forum hoes can just keep whining.
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Dianabolic
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Posted - 2005.11.19 18:11:00 -
[1296]
Originally by: Yo Fore
Originally by: Dianabolic
Originally by: Yo Fore
Originally by: Dianabolic You've participated in 13 kills and died 21 times.
Yeah yeah, per your kill board which not all kills are posted. Plus it doesn't show all the Xelas kills, which is a BoB puppet alliance. But that does prove there is a warzone.
That old chestnut again, huh?
If there is a loss or kill missing, send it to us, until then, stfu.
A bit touchy are we? We have sent plenty of mails complaining of lack of kill posts. Need the warzone put back in Fountain. And you BoB forum hoes can just keep whining.
Actually, we were just disagreeing with you. We also tried to offer evidence to support our claim.
You, however, have done nothing but claim heresy and conjecture, with no proof.
So, who's the one that is actually whining?
Originally by: Thomas Jefferson A society that will trade a little liberty for a little security will lose both and deserve neither.
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Dianabolic
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Posted - 2005.11.19 18:11:00 -
[1297]
Originally by: Yo Fore
Originally by: Dianabolic
Originally by: Yo Fore
Originally by: Dianabolic You've participated in 13 kills and died 21 times.
Yeah yeah, per your kill board which not all kills are posted. Plus it doesn't show all the Xelas kills, which is a BoB puppet alliance. But that does prove there is a warzone.
That old chestnut again, huh?
If there is a loss or kill missing, send it to us, until then, stfu.
A bit touchy are we? We have sent plenty of mails complaining of lack of kill posts. Need the warzone put back in Fountain. And you BoB forum hoes can just keep whining.
Actually, we were just disagreeing with you. We also tried to offer evidence to support our claim.
You, however, have done nothing but claim heresy and conjecture, with no proof.
So, who's the one that is actually whining?
Originally by: Thomas Jefferson A society that will trade a little liberty for a little security will lose both and deserve neither.
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DoctorGonzo
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Posted - 2005.11.19 18:19:00 -
[1298]
Including pods and shuttles, FA have killed 49 BoB ships (4 of which were BS) in the last month, that's about 1.5 ships per day - do you really think that deserves a war zone marker?
Get Your BoB Protection Kit Here |

Yo Fore
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Posted - 2005.11.19 19:16:00 -
[1299]
Originally by: DoctorGonzo Including pods and shuttles, FA have killed 49 BoB ships (4 of which were BS) in the last month, that's about 1.5 ships per day - do you really think that deserves a war zone marker?
FA has 173 kills in the last 7 days, I would say that makes it a warzone. As I said we are fighting your puppet alliance Xelas too. Can't help it that there aren't enough BoB to kill.
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Dianabolic
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Posted - 2005.11.19 19:30:00 -
[1300]
Originally by: Yo Fore FA has 173 kills in the last 7 days...
Prove it.
Originally by: Yo Fore Can't help it that there aren't enough BoB to kill.
13 to 21.
Originally by: Thomas Jefferson A society that will trade a little liberty for a little security will lose both and deserve neither.
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Garnerius De'Nugent
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Posted - 2005.11.19 19:51:00 -
[1301]
Edited by: Garnerius De''Nugent on 19/11/2005 19:52:44
Originally by: Yo Fore FA has 173 kills in the last 7 days
As i have access to the FA killboard ( ), i can safely say "bull****".
51 kills (+25 pods) in the last 7 days.
Then;
"Most active corporations the last 7 days A list with the 10 most active corporations. Counting both final blows and assists".
I make this week to be 172 
How you get 173 kills is beyond me.
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Latton CALLAN
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Posted - 2005.11.19 20:23:00 -
[1302]
Originally by: Dianabolic
Prove it.
Open map every night at the same hour and click on show destroy ship and pod kill in last 24h. Do it every day, that's all. We don't talk about who loss or win, just that lot of ship are destroyed every day = warzone
Why BOB doesn't have killmail ? is is simple, Major part of BOB is not into FA core, it is only their puppet XS.
BOB you are not the center of univers, if you have few loss/kill, it is perhaps also because you're are not here. And if you have no entries into you're killboard doesn't means Fountain Region is not a warzone.
Regards, ----------- >> COLSUP: Consortium des SociTtTs Unies Pacifiques recrute ! |

Dianabolic
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Posted - 2005.11.19 20:27:00 -
[1303]
Lattan, YOU prove it, don't ask me to - you're (and your "alliance)so insistent on it, YOU do it.
Originally by: Thomas Jefferson A society that will trade a little liberty for a little security will lose both and deserve neither.
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Abdalion

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Posted - 2005.11.19 21:21:00 -
[1304]
Thats about enough of the BoB and FA business.
Take it ingame.
Read the Rules: Map Thread Rules ---
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Lilan Kahn
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Posted - 2005.11.20 18:02:00 -
[1305]
Originally by: Shyalud Edited by: Shyalud on 17/11/2005 20:05:33 Edited by: Shyalud on 17/11/2005 12:49:02 8. -V- retracted, SA Surrendered, The [5] is in Venal getting hammered.
FE space is secure.
hey uni***** your the worest pvper ever, oh btw nice reform of teh uni*****s on F-E tag rolf lolis and what ever
btw
DIE YOU BACK STAPING CORP ROBING SACK OF ****
*hides from the mods*
Originally by: Eris Discordia
We break after X amount of threads, then we go wild and then we get our medication.
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Dianabolic
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Posted - 2005.11.20 18:54:00 -
[1306]
Lilan, edit or delete your post please, it has no place in this thread (or probably on this forum).
Originally by: Thomas Jefferson A society that will trade a little liberty for a little security will lose both and deserve neither.
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pershphanie
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Posted - 2005.11.20 20:43:00 -
[1307]
Originally by: Lilan Kahn Edited by: Lilan Kahn on 20/11/2005 19:03:41 FE shut up abut how much you pwn, go pwn some roids freaking carebears
I'm looking at 7pages of people bragging about how much they pwn. I see one FE post of that nature. The pilot then appologised for what she said. I think your frustration with ppl bragging about how much they pwn is misguided. No doubt its an issue here, im just not sure its fair to blame fe for that. |

pshepherd
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Posted - 2005.11.21 23:57:00 -
[1308]
just to keep you updated. Paragon soul is now claimed by Tribal Souls.
http://www.tribalsouls.org/forums/showthread.php?t=4
(just in case you want to read more info about us)
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Solwolf
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Posted - 2005.11.22 05:34:00 -
[1309]
Please put the warzone back up for FA in Fountain. Sorry for bringing this up again Mod people. Latton Callan is a Co-chair of FA so he has asked for this and he does have the authority to do so. Our killboard is private, but as they say a picture is worth a thousand words. Here's the evidence that everyone was asking for.
http://www.eve-files.com/media/11/11-1a.JPG http://www.eve-files.com/media/11/11-1b.JPG http://www.eve-files.com/media/11/11-1c.JPG http://www.eve-files.com/media/11/11-8a.JPG http://www.eve-files.com/media/11/11-8b.JPG http://www.eve-files.com/media/11/11-8c.JPG http://www.eve-files.com/media/11/11-8d.JPG http://www.eve-files.com/media/11/11-8e.JPG http://www.eve-files.com/media/11/11-15a.JPG http://www.eve-files.com/media/11/11-15b.JPG http://www.eve-files.com/media/11/11-15c.JPG http://www.eve-files.com/media/11/11-15d.JPG http://www.eve-files.com/media/11/11-15e.JPG http://www.eve-files.com/media/11/11-15f.JPG http://www.eve-files.com/media/11/11-21a.JPG http://www.eve-files.com/media/11/11-21b.JPG http://www.eve-files.com/media/11/11-21c.JPG http://www.eve-files.com/media/11/11-21d.JPG
That's FA's recorded kills for the last month.
Before I get flamed for not participating, I've been taking a break from pvping. I'll get back into it. I've done my share of killing and dying for FA too.
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Joycalyn
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Posted - 2005.11.22 06:28:00 -
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N-RAEL corridor and Curse was hot last week with skirmishes between RA and -V- ...
Let's see how this week goes...so far some GF's in Doril (curse) between RA & Tyrell Corp (-V-)
Map Edit: Change Curse to RA vs -V- (rather than RA vs 5)
Thanks
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pershphanie
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Posted - 2005.11.22 08:28:00 -
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tribute is no longer a warzone. it is now painfully boring. |

DoctorGonzo
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Posted - 2005.11.22 10:42:00 -
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Edited by: DoctorGonzo on 22/11/2005 10:42:37
Originally by: Solwolf Please put the warzone back up for FA in Fountain. Sorry for bringing this up again Mod people. Latton Callan is a Co-chair of FA so he has asked for this and he does have the authority to do so. Our killboard is private, but as they say a picture is worth a thousand words. Here's the evidence that everyone was asking for.
http://www.eve-files.com/media/11/11-1a.JPG http://www.eve-files.com/media/11/11-1b.JPG http://www.eve-files.com/media/11/11-1c.JPG http://www.eve-files.com/media/11/11-8a.JPG http://www.eve-files.com/media/11/11-8b.JPG http://www.eve-files.com/media/11/11-8c.JPG http://www.eve-files.com/media/11/11-8d.JPG http://www.eve-files.com/media/11/11-8e.JPG http://www.eve-files.com/media/11/11-15a.JPG http://www.eve-files.com/media/11/11-15b.JPG http://www.eve-files.com/media/11/11-15c.JPG http://www.eve-files.com/media/11/11-15d.JPG http://www.eve-files.com/media/11/11-15e.JPG http://www.eve-files.com/media/11/11-15f.JPG http://www.eve-files.com/media/11/11-21a.JPG http://www.eve-files.com/media/11/11-21b.JPG http://www.eve-files.com/media/11/11-21c.JPG http://www.eve-files.com/media/11/11-21d.JPG
That's FA's recorded kills for the last month.
Before I get flamed for not participating, I've been taking a break from pvping. I'll get back into it. I've done my share of killing and dying for FA too.
Your average is less than 6 kills a day and a battleship kill less than one every two days. If you filter out pods, shuttles and newbie ships your average is less than 4 kills a day. So your pictures actually prove you are definitely not having an impact in Fountain. At best you're pirating in our space with the odd kill.
You're losses are not accurate either as we know by looking at our killboard and by speaking to the Xelas guys you have lost more than you've killed. So you're not even doing the piracy thing very well.
ItÆs not up to me, but I personally donÆt think your efforts deserve a war marker.
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DB Preacher
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Posted - 2005.11.22 11:12:00 -
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Edited by: DB Preacher on 22/11/2005 11:13:43 Alright enough.
Josh: If you think ~4 ships a day is a warzone then by all means add FA to the already present VC warzone over Fountain.
However, be careful about what that could trigger because you will potentially have every pirate corp in the game requesting a Warzone (e.g. BE etc).
Furthermore, just think how many warzones BoB could go on to create by putting a pocket of 10 pilots into every alliance space in the game.
It's up to you how you want to play it, you have the facts.
Can everyone please now stfu about fountain.
I don't know about the rest of you but is anyway else getting an amazing DEJA VU feeling of FA attempting to disrupt the Map Thread?
kthx dbp
Current RKK Ranking: (CAL5) Kenin
Drop by and say hi in Reikoku Forums.
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Agil Scout
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Posted - 2005.11.22 13:14:00 -
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Originally by: Solwolf Please put the warzone back up for FA in Fountain. Sorry for bringing this up again Mod people. Latton Callan is a Co-chair of FA so he has asked for this and he does have the authority to do so. Our killboard is private, but as they say a picture is worth a thousand words. Here's the evidence that everyone was asking for.
http://www.eve-files.com/media/11/11-1a.JPG http://www.eve-files.com/media/11/11-1b.JPG http://www.eve-files.com/media/11/11-1c.JPG http://www.eve-files.com/media/11/11-8a.JPG http://www.eve-files.com/media/11/11-8b.JPG http://www.eve-files.com/media/11/11-8c.JPG http://www.eve-files.com/media/11/11-8d.JPG http://www.eve-files.com/media/11/11-8e.JPG http://www.eve-files.com/media/11/11-15a.JPG http://www.eve-files.com/media/11/11-15b.JPG http://www.eve-files.com/media/11/11-15c.JPG http://www.eve-files.com/media/11/11-15d.JPG http://www.eve-files.com/media/11/11-15e.JPG http://www.eve-files.com/media/11/11-15f.JPG http://www.eve-files.com/media/11/11-21a.JPG http://www.eve-files.com/media/11/11-21b.JPG http://www.eve-files.com/media/11/11-21c.JPG http://www.eve-files.com/media/11/11-21d.JPG
That's FA's recorded kills for the last month.
Before I get flamed for not participating, I've been taking a break from pvping. I'll get back into it. I've done my share of killing and dying for FA too.
Images that Show killboards are banned arent they?, ban this nub. ------------ [IAC] Teh best noob corp in the world. I R AN ALT FEAR ME! |

Righteous Fury
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Posted - 2005.11.22 14:40:00 -
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Originally by: DB Preacher I don't know about the rest of you but is anyway else getting an amazing DEJA VU feeling of FA attempting to disrupt the Map Thread?
Hmm, glad its not just me then. Good luck with the decision Josh, I know all too well how its going to result. 
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Solwolf
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Posted - 2005.11.22 16:39:00 -
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Originally by: Agil Scout ... Images that Show killboards are banned arent they?, ban this nub.
If you think I should be banned, you should contact the moderators, thanks. If what I've done warrants a ban, then I apologize and I'll take my licks.
What makes you think I'm a nub anyway?
I agree the number of kills might be low. However, with the exception of BOB, when they're around, it's difficult to get a fight in Fountain. It's either a blob or lot's of warp core stabs. I'm not trying to flame either. I'm merely offering an explanation for the low numbers.
How could you classify the Fountain Alliance as pirating too? The Fountain Alliance made Fountain it's home for a couple of years. Many, including me, still consider it home. A warzone marker seems more appropriate to me than a pirate zone.
Righteous, why did you feel the need to post anyway? You haven't added anything to the dicussion except an insult, thanks.
Okay, I'm done posting here. If someone wants to discuss this please contact me ingame thanks.
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Raid
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Posted - 2005.11.22 17:00:00 -
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Originally by: Joycalyn N-RAEL corridor and Curse was hot last week with skirmishes between RA and -V- ...
Let's see how this week goes...so far some GF's in Doril (curse) between RA & Tyrell Corp (-V-)
Map Edit: Change Curse to RA vs -V- (rather than RA vs 5)
Thanks
I confirm the above statement. Fighting in Doril over the last 2 weeks has been fun. Tyrell vs RA + VIRII though the majority of the fighting is Tyrell vs RA. War marker should apply as this is not a part time thing but full time combat between residence of curse. -----------------------
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Shin Ra
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Posted - 2005.11.22 17:55:00 -
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KOS alliance are fighting SE for control of Omist. Stations are changing daily so contested is probably appropriate. G controls the c9n factory in esoteria. Tribal souls control the other 3 stations in that region. AZN and surrounding systems is a warzone between G/IRON vs ASCN.
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Cmd Woodlouse
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Posted - 2005.11.22 19:41:00 -
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Originally by: Solwolf If you think I should be banned, you should contact the moderators, thanks. If what I've done warrants a ban, then I apologize and I'll take my licks.
What makes you think I'm a nub anyway?
I agree the number of kills might be low. However, with the exception of BOB, when they're around, it's difficult to get a fight in Fountain. It's either a blob or lot's of warp core stabs. I'm not trying to flame either. I'm merely offering an explanation for the low numbers.
I will try not to flame... i highlighted the words that explain it all. Hell i think bob and XS lose far more to npcs in a single day. showing 18 (!!!omgwtfbbq!!!) kills on pics in one month is:
a. lame like posting killmails b. a testament for ur inability to pose any real threat to the forces there
and b is whats it about. a war zone marker should be there if the residents are under a medium threat at least which clearly cant be the case. under that circumstance the whole galaxy has to be a single huge warzone marker.
i really would like FA to STOP this crap before its destroying the map thread again¦(and then alot of ppl might become VERY angry).
Thx 
-G- Pink Power
Darko1107 > so play a fluffy game Darko1107 > like pokemon |

Seleene
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Posted - 2005.11.22 21:07:00 -
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Originally by: Cmd Woodlouse i really would like FA to STOP this crap before its destroying the map thread again¦(and then alot of ppl might become VERY angry).
Thx 
Agreed. -
The REAL Eve Political Map! |
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Kyguard
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Posted - 2005.11.22 21:38:00 -
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Edited by: Kyguard on 22/11/2005 21:38:38
Originally by: Cmd Woodlouse i really would like FA to STOP this crap before its destroying the map thread again¦(and then alot of ppl might become VERY angry).
Thx 
You've got to be joking right?  --
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Cmd Woodlouse
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Posted - 2005.11.22 21:50:00 -
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Originally by: Kyguard Edited by: Kyguard on 22/11/2005 21:38:38
Originally by: Cmd Woodlouse i really would like FA to STOP this crap before its destroying the map thread again¦(and then alot of ppl might become VERY angry).
Thx 
You've got to be joking right? 
No, i aint.
And btw to come back to topic: We request a warzone marker for ASCN space. IRON, Razor and G vs. ASCN.
-G- Pink Power
Darko1107 > so play a fluffy game Darko1107 > like pokemon |

Creamster
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Posted - 2005.11.22 22:23:00 -
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Indeed Omist is contested between SE and KoS+BE  ___________ 2005.09.04:"After the 7 days SE corporations will be removed from the said regions" (Q) XB killboard |

Raid
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Posted - 2005.11.23 02:26:00 -
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Edited by: Raid on 23/11/2005 02:28:24 Im sorry but come on guys... FA isnt destorying this thread its the ammount of non-affiliated replys that are destroying it. Dont post here unless you have something to add to the map regarding your own situation.
FA has every right to post their views on the situation. If your not part of FA, Xellas or BOB then you really shouldnt be commenting on their situation. Focus on posting about your own alliances/affiliations and how it effects the map, and leave FA/BOB/Xellas to fight their own battles.
Edit: dont reply to this just take it as a message... Any replys just adds more garbage that has no place in this thread. -----------------------
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Shin Ra
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Posted - 2005.11.23 11:58:00 -
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Originally by: Creamster Indeed Omist is contested between SE and KoS+BE 
We contest nothing. We kill KoS as much as we do SE.
3-ways 4tw
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Hans Roaming
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Posted - 2005.11.23 13:34:00 -
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Got some updates on the situaion in Providence.
Huzzah Federation space is no longer contested. No 4 should change to TSDS vs Huzzah and is in low sec domain rather than Providence. No 11 is also now in low sec domain and Providence (Ushra'Khan vs CVA & Huzzah) The area of space being fought over (CVA space) is between TSDS and CVA and that is contested.
Effectivly CVA & Huzzah are allies, The Sudden Death Squad are fighting to take over CVA space and Ushra'Khan are just coming down to have some fights as well with CVA and Huzzah.
Regards Hans Roaming
El Presedente
Anti Pirate? Tired of sec hits? Join us for free wars! |

awebon
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Posted - 2005.11.23 16:07:00 -
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Originally by: Shin Ra
Originally by: Creamster Indeed Omist is contested between SE and KoS+BE 
3-ways 4tw
mmmmm 3-ways are good
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Tatzlwurm
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Posted - 2005.11.23 16:11:00 -
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BE is just taking advantage of the frequent travel both SE and KOS must do to conest the regions. They can sometimes get easy ganks this way, they arent contesting the actual space itself.
However KOS holds Sov in most of the systems. and are taking stations from SE. 6t is secure and is ours. Soon they all will be.
and SE called our alliance small????? ________________________________________
"Hey if your gonna do it, do it naked"
"would you rather sandpaper an alligators A**hole in a phonebooth?" |

Namelesz
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Posted - 2005.11.23 16:37:00 -
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quick note to mapmaker. You do indeed have SE in control of Omist, and they did for about a week. I was just under the impression that there had to be some more time of a corp/alliance in said space before total control was earned via this map. Once KOS takes full control though, I would not expect the map to be all KOS right away till we hold in a few weeks at least. Leave it as contested for a bit. thank you,
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FalloutBoy
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Posted - 2005.11.24 08:15:00 -
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Originally by: Tatzlwurm BE is just taking advantage of the frequent travel both SE and KOS must do to conest the regions. They can sometimes get easy ganks this way, they arent contesting the actual space itself.
However KOS holds Sov in most of the systems. and are taking stations from SE. 6t is secure and is ours. Soon they all will be.
and SE called our alliance small?????
the only station you have sov in is 6t which is the armpit of Omist, and SE holds the other two stations with sov. doesn't look like your doing all that well
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Agil Scout
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Posted - 2005.11.24 11:53:00 -
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Originally by: FalloutBoy
Originally by: Tatzlwurm BE is just taking advantage of the frequent travel both SE and KOS must do to conest the regions. They can sometimes get easy ganks this way, they arent contesting the actual space itself.
However KOS holds Sov in most of the systems. and are taking stations from SE. 6t is secure and is ours. Soon they all will be.
and SE called our alliance small?????
the only station you have sov in is 6t which is the armpit of Omist, and SE holds the other two stations with sov. doesn't look like your doing all that well
STOP BICKERING AND RANTING
YOUR NOT SE ANYMORE SO DROP IT OR TAKE IT TO ANOTHER THREAD.
KUDOS TO THE G DUDE FOR TELLING THE FA DUDE TO DO THE SAME. ------------ [IAC] Teh best noob corp in the world. I R AN ALT FEAR ME! |

FalloutBoy
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Posted - 2005.11.24 17:58:00 -
[1332]
Originally by: Agil Scout
Originally by: FalloutBoy
Originally by: Tatzlwurm BE is just taking advantage of the frequent travel both SE and KOS must do to conest the regions. They can sometimes get easy ganks this way, they arent contesting the actual space itself.
However KOS holds Sov in most of the systems. and are taking stations from SE. 6t is secure and is ours. Soon they all will be.
and SE called our alliance small?????
the only station you have sov in is 6t which is the armpit of Omist, and SE holds the other two stations with sov. doesn't look like your doing all that well
STOP BICKERING AND RANTING
YOUR NOT SE ANYMORE SO DROP IT OR TAKE IT TO ANOTHER THREAD.
KUDOS TO THE G DUDE FOR TELLING THE FA DUDE TO DO THE SAME.
ok mr. alt
you also might want to get your cap locks key looked at
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Namelesz
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Posted - 2005.11.24 21:39:00 -
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excuse me if I am out of line here, but I dont think any member of KOS stated we controlled Omist. We are basically stating this area is contested. 6t3 belongs to KOS and the other 2 systems with stations in them have had sovereignity changing hands what seems like daily. Let the POS wars ring on. . . . *sigh*
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Creamster
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Posted - 2005.11.25 01:13:00 -
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Oh yeah, pos war at its ugliest. Nameless are you guys willing to duke it out in the open fleet battle?  ___________ 2005.09.04:"After the 7 days SE corporations will be removed from the said regions" (Q) XB killboard |

Tatzlwurm
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Posted - 2005.11.25 01:22:00 -
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i think we did that today. Bship losses only, because to be frank who cares about the frig and cruiser losses? I hate POS wars....Sov in z-7 belongs to KOS by tomorrow. SE tried to actually bring a dread in on this. Its been interesting and alot of fun.
SE losses - 6 KOS losses - 1 (yes that was my raven i lost - damn bump kept me from warping) ________________________________________
"Hey if your gonna do it, do it naked"
"would you rather sandpaper an alligators A**hole in a phonebooth?" |

Khirzan Wolfson
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Posted - 2005.11.25 04:10:00 -
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Omist region is now being claimed by KOS alliance, Knights of the SouthernCross, and we have conquered 6T station and held it for about a week almost, and are POS warring in the whole region. SE is gonna be outta here! Please update map for omist to be a warzone
-Khirzan Wolfson X/O The Taining Corp Executor Corp, KOS Alliance
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thedragoon
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Posted - 2005.11.25 07:46:00 -
[1337]
KOS 4tw in omist
  
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HellsRazor
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Posted - 2005.11.25 11:01:00 -
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umm..i been away a few weeks but i dont believe STAIN REGION is contested anymore....seeing SE is focused in OMIST now and other hostiles in Stain region arent contesting it just having fun fighting us periodicly ;P so.... CHANGE please.
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Hans Roaming
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Posted - 2005.11.25 11:44:00 -
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Warzone number 4 is no longer valid as The Priory and TSDS have both retracted their wars against the Huzzah Federation.
El Presedente
Anti Pirate? Tired of sec hits? Join us for free wars! |

Khirzan Wolfson
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Posted - 2005.11.26 00:41:00 -
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KOS Alliance now has Pos control and sov in the Z7 and 6t Stations in Omist, which mean the war is now in 2/3 in favor of KOS. Omist will be under KOS control by the end of the weekend, with the area secured.
-Khirzan Wolfson X/O The Taining Corp Executor Corp, KOS Alliance
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ElricUK
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Posted - 2005.11.26 04:26:00 -
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Edited by: ElricUK on 26/11/2005 04:34:20
Quote: i dont believe STAIN REGION is contested anymore.... seeing SE is focused in OMIST now and other hostiles in Stain region arent contesting it just having fun fighting us periodicly
It is true that there are very few SE forces in the stain region (from what I have seen) however, do not assume that G/IRON are not contesting it. Certainly a high level of IRON presence there.
#5 Stain war zone should read IRON vrs SA at the very least.
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HellsRazor
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Posted - 2005.11.26 15:51:00 -
[1342]
Originally by: ElricUK Edited by: ElricUK on 26/11/2005 04:44:05
Quote: i dont believe STAIN REGION is contested anymore.... seeing SE is focused in OMIST now and other hostiles in Stain region arent contesting it just having fun fighting us periodicly
It is true that there are very few SE forces in the stain region (from what I have seen) however, im pretty sure IRON are contesting the region.
#5 Stain war zone should read IRON vrs SA.
The G/IRON fighting with ASCN also needs to be reflected somehow.
your contesting STAIN region...? SO you mean to live there and control it is your intention? or do you just want a little conflict looking tab? because if any space is considered contested because there hostile forces killing in "your home turf" ...then i suggest you look at our killboards at www.interexodus.com because that would mean some of the northern space is contested.
just want to make a point because you fight there unless you plan to live there or run that said region is it really being contested or should it just have conflict mark?
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ElricUK
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Posted - 2005.11.26 20:36:00 -
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A war zone is probably sufficient for now.
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Siobhan
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Posted - 2005.11.28 17:32:00 -
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PROVIDENCE
A few points:
CVA & Huzzah are allied. Huzzah operate mainly in the 'southern' section of 0.0 Providence and CVA mainly in the NW section (immediate surrounds of R3) into low sec Empire - but there is a lot of overlap - so the one 'bubble' covering both is fine.
In relation to the conflicts in that area. Priory do pirate there on occasion although its on an ad-hoc basis - certainly not a consistent ongoing threat.
More importantly TSDS alliance was formed about a month ago by TSBS and friends. They decced on CVA and Huzzah. They have retracted now vs Huzzah and have also started moving away from CVA area (whether that is permanent or not is another question).
Re. Ushra Khan alliance - yes they are at war with Huzzah and CVA but again this consists mainly of occasional raiding fleets rather than any ongoing presence. They also tend to leave neutrals in the area alone (as long as they aint CVA or Huzzah)
CVA and Huzzah space in Providence has never been 'closed'. It is open for all who wish to access 0.0 as long as they do not pirate. Any corps interested in moving to the area for peaceful 0.0 business are welcome but they should really flag themselves to Aralis (CVA) or Zarniewhoop (Huzzah) in advance to avoid any 'incidents'.
The area is 'reasonably safe' as both CVA and Huzzah normally react to any pirate threats - however there is no guarantee. While anyone 'neutral' visiting the area to mine or NPC have nothing to fear from CVA or Huzzah but they should show the usual 0.0 caution as pirates do slip through.
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j0rz
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Posted - 2005.11.28 18:45:00 -
[1345]
Originally by: HellsRazor
Originally by: ElricUK Edited by: ElricUK on 26/11/2005 04:44:05
Quote: i dont believe STAIN REGION is contested anymore.... seeing SE is focused in OMIST now and other hostiles in Stain region arent contesting it just having fun fighting us periodicly
It is true that there are very few SE forces in the stain region (from what I have seen) however, im pretty sure IRON are contesting the region.
#5 Stain war zone should read IRON vrs SA.
The G/IRON fighting with ASCN also needs to be reflected somehow.
your contesting STAIN region...? SO you mean to live there and control it is your intention? or do you just want a little conflict looking tab? because if any space is considered contested because there hostile forces killing in "your home turf" ...then i suggest you look at our killboards at www.interexodus.com because that would mean some of the northern space is contested.
just want to make a point because you fight there unless you plan to live there or run that said region is it really being contested or should it just have conflict mark?
look SA litle boy, get off this thread, u are not SA high command so stop trying to pick a fight. SA space is heavily contested between SE,IRON,SA, so pls
SHUT UP
Quote: Originally by: ParMizaN -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- i mayv or may nit abe a bit drunk -------------------------------------------
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HellsRazor
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Posted - 2005.11.28 19:35:00 -
[1346]
Edited by: HellsRazor on 28/11/2005 19:44:24
BOY well this "boy" will still serve you a MANLY BEATING.
MY COMMENTS where not flame at all an observation, you sorry puppet. You want official......ok I Officially claim your a flamer.
things were civil till you decided to say anything so run along and play with you wild *****cats.
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Garnerius De'Nugent
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Posted - 2005.11.28 20:41:00 -
[1347]
Originally by: j0rz SHUT UP
you are Eve's worst forum *****. take your own advice.
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Raid
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Posted - 2005.11.28 21:33:00 -
[1348]
Originally by: j0rz
look SA litle boy, get off this thread, u are not SA high command so stop trying to pick a fight. SA space is heavily contested between SE,IRON,SA, so pls
SHUT UP
That was a very unconstructive and disrespectful post. -----------------------
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Voltron
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Posted - 2005.11.28 21:51:00 -
[1349]
/me enters thread......./me beats his chest like a gorrilla....../me exits thread in hunt of bananas.
Volt
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Ithildin
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Posted - 2005.11.29 07:37:00 -
[1350]
Originally by: Zhuge Liang Rules for this thread
1. Only post changes you believe should be made to the map.
2. If you disagree with the map makers decisions, contact a representative of your alliance and have them contact the map maker via eve mail or similar.
3. If you disagree with the map makers decisions, do not post, your post will be considered off topic and deleted, you may recieve a warning or a ban.
4. If the situation can not be solved with a discussion between the contesting alliances and the map maker you can contact the moderator team and ask them to mediate.
I think it's time for a little reminder. Now, all you people, just imagine it's Zhuge Liang posting, and not me.
So. When are these forums going live in game? |
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HellsRazor
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Posted - 2005.11.29 14:08:00 -
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well, I went with rule 1. i was trying to establish whos still actively contesting the region i stated. As far as official map representative....i think im one of the closes things to it considering most have given up trying to make observations and trying to get legit answers as far as whos contesting/warzone a region....but all i get is flame for trying to get hostile intent to update the map with imput clearly posted by both sides rather then just me says what i want. In away it was fine an IRON person even stated he thought it was sufficient enough for a warzone tab....and SE isnt actively in Stain region because for the moment there focus is else where. Anyways, thanks to those that tryed to be civil and can see i was just trying to make a legit change to map with a chance for hostiles to give there imput.
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Rod Blaine
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Posted - 2005.11.29 14:19:00 -
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Just ignore J0rz, his post are inconsequential and noone takes him seriously anyway.
Really, I'm serious, ignore him, nothing works better. _______________________________________________
Power to the players !
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Hast
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Posted - 2005.11.29 21:16:00 -
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Originally by: Rod Blaine Just ignore J0rz, his post are inconsequential and noone takes him seriously anyway.
Really, I'm serious, ignore him, nothing works better.
I'm just curious on who the hell he is and what gives him the right to be know everything and flame everyone.
and I'm tempted to war dec his corp just to shut him up...
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DustAngle
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Posted - 2005.11.29 22:17:00 -
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Originally by: Hast
Originally by: Rod Blaine Just ignore J0rz, his post are inconsequential and noone takes him seriously anyway.
Really, I'm serious, ignore him, nothing works better.
I'm just curious on who the hell he is and what gives him the right to be know everything and flame everyone.
and I'm tempted to war dec his corp just to shut him up...
Josh, would you put a big heart around empire with the lable "I love my hastipoo" please. Its really needed. Only one account at a time now hastie <3
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DB Preacher
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Posted - 2005.11.30 10:04:00 -
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Please remove warzone 9.
Imp pulled out en masse from Aridia after Huns left for F-E and NORAD got all their assets swiped.
We haven't been fighting them for a while now.
dbp
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Seleene
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Posted - 2005.11.30 12:13:00 -
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Great Wildlands is most definitely a war zone between MC and V. Pend Insurance is working overtime in the area.
Also, Foundation seems to be making a comeback. We've seen roaming gangs of 20+ Foundation battleships and frig squads roaming the region for a couple weeks now. I'm not sure what your criteria for a "contested" region is thought, Joshua. Just thought I'd mention it.
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DjDangle
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Posted - 2005.11.30 13:51:00 -
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Edited by: DjDangle on 30/11/2005 13:51:50
Originally by: Seleene Great Wildlands is most definitely a war zone between MC and V. Pend Insurance is working overtime in the area.
Also, Foundation seems to be making a comeback. We've seen roaming gangs of 20+ Foundation battleships and frig squads roaming the region for a couple weeks now. I'm not sure what your criteria for a "contested" region is thought, Joshua. Just thought I'd mention it.
Warzone between V and Mc, I wholeheartedly agree....
Foundation though? Who? and Where? 20+ you say? Hmmmmm  ------------
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Seleene
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Posted - 2005.11.30 14:34:00 -
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Edited by: Seleene on 30/11/2005 14:36:02
Originally by: DjDangle Warzone between V and Mc, I wholeheartedly agree....
Foundation though? Who? and Where? 20+ you say? Your only saying that because you were hired to say that lol, Hmmmmm 
Just calling it like I see it, DJ. No one paid me to say anything of the sort. We've bumped into them quite a few times lately. It's up to them if they want to file for one of those "contested area" thingies, but they are around, as is RA it seems lately. 
EDIT - I really have no clue if FD are doing anything to you guys or vice versa. I certianly hope they aren't using Scorpions and Megathrons as tour buses tho!  -
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sableye
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Posted - 2005.11.30 14:53:00 -
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Originally by: DB Preacher Please remove warzone 9.
Imp pulled out en masse from Aridia after Huns left for F-E and NORAD got all their assets swiped.
We haven't been fighting them for a while now.
dbp
Norad enver got any assets swiped I know you can;t stop thinking about us but that would be rona 
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Nebuli
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Posted - 2005.11.30 15:02:00 -
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20 ship Foundation fleets in GW??
Has been for weeks??
This must be a different GW to the one I live in, plenty of MC and some great fights, realy enjoyable, but dont know anything about this 20 man Foundation fleet thing actualy IN GW, occasionaly get them venture to Egbinger, named 0.0 1 jump from GW, and the occasional pilot roaming about in a cov ops, or sat in a station or safe spot, but thats all I can say I've seen in GW of Foundation.
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DB Preacher
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Posted - 2005.11.30 15:14:00 -
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Originally by: sableye
Originally by: DB Preacher Please remove warzone 9.
Imp pulled out en masse from Aridia after Huns left for F-E and NORAD got all their assets swiped.
We haven't been fighting them for a while now.
dbp
Norad enver got any assets swiped I know you can;t stop thinking about us but that would be rona 
whoooooooops,
nothing to see here, I'm not a Norad wannabee, honest.
I meant Rona of course :|
I'm tired cut me some slack :P
dbp
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Seleene
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Posted - 2005.11.30 16:24:00 -
[1362]
OK OK OK!!! There are no Foundation in Great Wildlands!! Sheesh, fellas!  -
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Krazow
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Posted - 2005.11.30 20:18:00 -
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Originally by: Seleene OK OK OK!!! There are no Foundation in Great Wildlands!! Sheesh, fellas! 
It's ok Seleene, the more they deny the facts the worse it makes them look when their lies are no longer believable. Oh and there's nothing to see in GW Josh, just ask -v-, they'll tell you how it is. 
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Eriqeu
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Posted - 2005.11.30 21:06:00 -
[1364]
Quote: Foundation though? Who?
Veritas Immortalis...You claim we do not exist.. I have one question for you.. How can you declare war on something that does not exist? Look in the OFFICIAL Alliance standings.. You see our name. I rest my case.. Call the area contested, or not.. Your call.. Stop denying what you know in your heart to be true DJ. "YES.... I AM YOUR FATHER!" Darth Vader 
Eriqeu FOUNDATION -E-
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Dust Angel
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Posted - 2005.11.30 21:13:00 -
[1365]
Originally by: Eriqeu
Quote: Foundation though? Who?
Veritas Immortalis...You claim we do not exist.. I have one question for you.. How can you declare war on something that does not exist? Look in the OFFICIAL Alliance standings.. You see our name. I rest my case.. Call the area contested, or not.. Your call.. Stop denying what you know in your heart to be true DJ. "YES.... I AM YOUR FATHER!" Darth Vader 
Eriqeu
Finally formed an alliance? at least that shows a little dedication.
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DjDangle
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Posted - 2005.11.30 21:27:00 -
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Errr, no, really. Your not.
Originally by: Eriqeu
Quote: Foundation though? Who?
DJ. "YES.... I AM YOUR FATHER!" Darth Vader 
Eriqeu
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Eriqeu
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Posted - 2005.11.30 22:00:00 -
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Quote: Errr, no, really. Your not.
It was a quote.. ;) Nothing more...
FOUNDATION -E-
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Eriqeu
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Posted - 2005.11.30 22:12:00 -
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Oh yes.. And for anyone interested.. Check out our KillBoard..
http://greatwildlands.info/kills/index.php FOUNDATION -E-
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Menfany
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Posted - 2005.12.01 00:16:00 -
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Edited by: Menfany on 01/12/2005 00:20:03 Edited by: Menfany on 01/12/2005 00:19:21 if MC really want to have the "contested" marker on GW i aggree with them IF they swear that they only visit us there for fun and not if they do this for money because they get payed for this
IF they get payed for the attacks they should shut up, because its not theyre own will to be there so they dont have to take care about the political situation
to the "F"-guys... if you want to get GW back from at least start to fight do not duck and hide if you think hiring MC to get us out of GW is the right way...you are totaly wrong atm we use MC as a good training-partner for our newer member...and they are a good Pvpers so they are welcome
if you didnt get the point...you cant make us leaving GW in consequence of having pvp there thats why we play PVP you only can get us out there when we get bored enough to leave the area....so stay in egbinger and send in MC each day we will enjoy this
PS: btw...thx for hiring MC to give some practice for our members without moving accross the whole galaxy
EDIT: sorry for choosing wrong character to post this...-V- Menf
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Jenny Spitfire
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Posted - 2005.12.01 00:39:00 -
[1370]
Edited by: Jenny Spitfire on 01/12/2005 00:41:55
Originally by: Eriqeu
Quote: Foundation though? Who?
Veritas Immortalis...You claim we do not exist.. I have one question for you.. How can you declare war on something that does not exist? Look in the OFFICIAL Alliance standings.. You see our name. I rest my case.. Call the area contested, or not.. Your call.. Stop denying what you know in your heart to be true DJ. "YES.... I AM YOUR FATHER!" Darth Vader 
Eriqeu FOUNDATION -E-
DjDangle has a point though... I see Foundati*0*n and not Foundation. Just thought you might have realised this. 
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Pepperami
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Posted - 2005.12.01 00:49:00 -
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Originally by: Seleene Also, Foundation seems to be making a comeback. We've seen roaming gangs of 20+ Foundation battleships and frig squads roaming the region for a couple weeks now.
lol! What? Do you mean 20 docked.. In Egbinger? The biggest F gang I've seen in Great Wildlands is 5, two of which were the same guy.. And that was once :(
MC want a warzone, no one will disagree, There should be one. F want a warzone? Well technically we're at war, but they're not an issue. A marker should indicate fighting going on. F Contesting G-W? That's just laughable. They're taking oppertunist ganks (as shown on their killboard:- haulers and barges = GG? Hardly any loses = Yea.. Whatever.) because they (or a friend of theirs) has paid MC to attack us. _____________________________________________________
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Seleene
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Posted - 2005.12.01 07:23:00 -
[1372]
*sigh*
Okay, I didn't mean to start a forum war over a random comment. Let me break it down like this though:
Are we working with Foundation? Only to the point of sharing Intel ATM. I will say though that the more than once we haven't had to send out a scout because someone in Foundation has given us spot on Intel and it's not always the same guy so there are at least three or four of them out there. 
People can speculate about our client all they wish. He/she/it/they will make themselves known to the V leadership at the appropriate time.
My intent here was simply to seek out a war zone marker for the area so that neutrals and tourists would know to steer clear of the region. My apologies if my comment about FD caused people to have an anxiety attack.
BTW, Josh, your sig should be done sometime this weekend. Sorry for the delay but our artist decided that RL work was more important this week than 'Imaginary Spaceship Land'.  -
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kashkaisha
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Posted - 2005.12.01 19:41:00 -
[1373]
Why the map is not showing the vertigo coalition in aridia who also claim the d4ku area .They also contest fountain and delve area so you should at least place a sign of it on the next update?!
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Rod Blaine
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Posted - 2005.12.01 19:49:00 -
[1374]
Edited by: Rod Blaine on 01/12/2005 19:52:28
Originally by: kashkaisha Why the map is not showing the vertigo coalition in aridia who also claim the d4ku area .They also contest fountain and delve area so you should at least place a sign of it on the next update?!
++ kash
We've been over that three times now, and BoB, Josh and VC have agreed that a warzone marker for fountain core is sufficient seeing the blatant facts we have gone voer ample times now.
Btw, since when have VC let PA speak for them ? Let's hope this is not a trend hey VC  _______________________________________________
Power to the players !
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Blacklight
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Posted - 2005.12.01 20:04:00 -
[1375]
Edited by: Blacklight on 01/12/2005 20:04:08
Originally by: kashkaisha Why the map is not showing the vertigo coalition in aridia who also claim the d4ku area .They also contest fountain and delve area so you should at least place a sign of it on the next update?!
++ kash
Unless you want your nobody alliance of two-bit empire huggers to get dismantled bit by bit for the second time in a year I suggest you shut up about things that are none of your concern and get back in your hole.
Those involved and those that need to know i.e. Josh have all the correct information they need and trolling responses from random nubbins who should be more concerned about their own area of the map are not required. End yourself.
Eve Blacklight Style
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Baun
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Posted - 2005.12.01 20:46:00 -
[1376]
Edited by: Baun on 01/12/2005 20:48:53 Edited by: Baun on 01/12/2005 20:47:03
Originally by: Blacklight Edited by: Blacklight on 01/12/2005 20:04:08
Originally by: kashkaisha Why the map is not showing the vertigo coalition in aridia who also claim the d4ku area .They also contest fountain and delve area so you should at least place a sign of it on the next update?!
++ kash
Unless you want your nobody alliance of two-bit empire huggers to get dismantled bit by bit for the second time in a year I suggest you shut up about things that are none of your concern and get back in your hole.
Those involved and those that need to know i.e. Josh have all the correct information they need and trolling responses from random nubbins who should be more concerned about their own area of the map are not required. End yourself.
FA still lives in Fountain, I see members of each of the corps in the alliance there all the time. Indeed, the last several times I have been in Fountain (about 3 times in 3 weeks, for varying periods) I have seen more FA than BoB and almost as many FA as Xelas (alot more FA in U.S times and quite a bit more Xelas in Euro times).
VC still lives in Fountain. They and Celes roam around the core area brutalizing Xelas until a big BoB force shows up. They have POSs everywhere in the region and have replaced every single one you have managed to destroy.
Just because you haven't been able to remove them from the region or been able to succesfully destroy the FA and VC POSs littered across Fountain is no reason to make such a hostile post. Since you obviously disagree with him, you would be wise to calmly explain why instead of calling him names.
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Blacklight
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Posted - 2005.12.01 21:03:00 -
[1377]
Edited by: Blacklight on 01/12/2005 21:06:04
Originally by: Baun FA still lives in Fountain, I see members of each of the corps in the alliance there all the time. Indeed, the last several times I have been in Fountain (about 3 times in 3 weeks, for varying periods) I have seen more FA than BoB and almost as many FA as Xelas (alot more FA in U.S times and quite a bit more Xelas in Euro times).
VC still lives in Fountain. They and Celes roam around the core area brutalizing Xelas until a big BoB force shows up. They have POSs everywhere in the region and have replaced every single one you have managed to destroy.
Just because you haven't been able to remove them from the region or been able to succesfully destroy the FA and VC POSs littered across Fountain is no reason to make such a hostile post. Since you obviously disagree with him, you would be wise to calmly explain why instead of calling him names.
Meh I am not going to get into debating your spin here Baun, you are also uninvolved and should equally know to keep out of it and that this thread isn't the place for it. If VC or FA want to make a statement I am sure they know how.
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Dianabolic
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Posted - 2005.12.01 21:03:00 -
[1378]
Edited by: Dianabolic on 01/12/2005 21:03:16
Originally by: Baun Edited by: Baun on 01/12/2005 20:48:53 Edited by: Baun on 01/12/2005 20:47:03
Originally by: Blacklight Edited by: Blacklight on 01/12/2005 20:04:08
Originally by: kashkaisha Why the map is not showing the vertigo coalition in aridia who also claim the d4ku area .They also contest fountain and delve area so you should at least place a sign of it on the next update?!
++ kash
Unless you want your nobody alliance of two-bit empire huggers to get dismantled bit by bit for the second time in a year I suggest you shut up about things that are none of your concern and get back in your hole.
Those involved and those that need to know i.e. Josh have all the correct information they need and trolling responses from random nubbins who should be more concerned about their own area of the map are not required. End yourself.
FA still lives in Fountain, I see members of each of the corps in the alliance there all the time. Indeed, the last several times I have been in Fountain (about 3 times in 3 weeks, for varying periods) I have seen more FA than BoB and almost as many FA as Xelas (alot more FA in U.S times and quite a bit more Xelas in Euro times).
VC still lives in Fountain. They and Celes roam around the core area brutalizing Xelas until a big BoB force shows up. They have POSs everywhere in the region and have replaced every single one you have managed to destroy.
Just because you haven't been able to remove them from the region or been able to succesfully destroy the FA and VC POSs littered across Fountain is no reason to make such a hostile post. Since you obviously disagree with him, you would be wise to calmly explain why instead of calling him names.
Those that have been replaced, were done so by using an exploit.
And they still haven't replaced them all.
Once this particular exploit is fixed, we'll be back to finsih them off.
Until then, VC and "fountain alliance" are nothing but pirates, an annoyance that every region in the game has. When we want to do things, we do them with next to no resistance from VC / "FA" in any timezone.
As you're not up here, Baun, you wouldn't know this, so kindly keep your own comments to things that concern you, in this thread.
That will be my last post on Fountain, because once again all you pretenders are flooding this thread with misinformation and lies.
To quote abdalion:
"That's enough about BoB and FA".
Originally by: Thomas Jefferson A society that will trade a little liberty for a little security will lose both and deserve neither.
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Ugluuk
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Posted - 2005.12.01 21:45:00 -
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Well..I saw a 7 man fleet of foundation in empire..Until they met me that is..
Then they became the next biggest fleet iv`e seen of them..2..
in Gw..zero http://bydi.digilo.net/forum/ Edited, Ugluuk rox my boxxor -Dyvim
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Abriana Overlord
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Posted - 2005.12.01 23:06:00 -
[1380]
Please update map
Paragon Soul is Tribal Souls [TRIBE] territory
TY
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Paul Castrin
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Posted - 2005.12.01 23:42:00 -
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Originally by: Blacklight If VC or FA want to make a statement I am sure they know how.
We do but we won't and usually don't.
Warzone marker in Fountain is fine IMHO. Note: I'm not an authoritative person in VC. If you want an official stance you'll have to convo a CEO in game.
gl gh and hf!
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Baun
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Posted - 2005.12.02 01:33:00 -
[1382]
Edited by: Baun on 02/12/2005 01:34:28
Originally by: Dianabolic
As you're not up here, Baun, you wouldn't know this, so kindly keep your own comments to things that concern you, in this thread.
Apparently you don't spend much time in Fountain. I have been in Fountain for the last 3 days and have spent the majority of the last 3 weeks there. Heck, I even fought with CELES against Xelas in a few small engagements.
Quote:
That will be my last post on Fountain, because once again all you pretenders are flooding this thread with misinformation and lies.
I don't get it. What was I lying about? FA and VC members are still very prevalent around Fountain core, just as much as BoB and Xelas are and VC and FA still have tons of POSs up (they claim more systems in Fountain than BoB and Xelas).
I don't care how the map does or does not refelct this, and I don't claim that this neccesarily should make the region contested (though this is fairly clear evidence that BoB isnt, in any real sense, in control of that region). I simply think it a travesty that people like you and Blacklight can dismiss people by calling them liars instead of actually discussing the reality of the situation. After all, if one cares that the map is accurate then one must certainly be willing to discuss the information that the map is based on.
So again, someone said that Fountain should be contested because 2 alliances hostile to BoB have many POSs in the region and live there. You seem to disagree. Therefore, would you be willing to discuss why this does not or does not merit a contested region or are you and your BNC buddy more interested in calling me a liar and insulting PA.
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Galavet
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Posted - 2005.12.02 02:47:00 -
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Move over ChefAce, Here comes Baun for your #1 BoB stalker Title!!
How is the view from the other side of the map btw?
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Baun
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Posted - 2005.12.02 02:54:00 -
[1384]
Originally by: Galavet Move over ChefAce, Here comes Baun for your #1 BoB stalker Title!!
How is the view from the other side of the map btw?
I am logged off in Fountain right now and have been flying around the region for weeks.
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Galavet
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Posted - 2005.12.02 03:01:00 -
[1385]
And the FA is winning the war, Its all so clear now. Damn, I didnt even notice we were losing. 
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Werner Bohr
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Posted - 2005.12.02 03:59:00 -
[1386]
Edited by: Werner Bohr on 02/12/2005 03:58:58 meh
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Cosma Shiva
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Posted - 2005.12.02 05:56:00 -
[1387]
Edited by: Cosma Shiva on 02/12/2005 06:01:04
Originally by: Galavet And the FA is winning the war, Its all so clear now. Damn, I didnt even notice we were losing. 
But you aint winning it either, by far. But good try tho. 
sry this was supposed to be posted by Anchra (Member of SH Brotherhood [VC]) and not my alt
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Anchra
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Posted - 2005.12.02 06:34:00 -
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And one more thing. BoB claims they can not remove VC's POS coz we're using an exploit and wont come back to finish them off until CCP has fixed that. Last time we checked, we where allowed to unanchor structures and take them down while in reinforcement mode. About the issue of goin from reinforcement mode to another and another, its not an exploit but part of the game mechanics for how the pos makes use of its resources. I suggest u make ur homework before accusing ppl for cheating. And if winning a war means making CCP altering the game mechanics to ur favor, then u truly are good and deserve to win.
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DB Preacher
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Posted - 2005.12.02 07:21:00 -
[1389]
Hi,
Baun please stop being so bitter and trying to disrupt another map thread.
BoB, we've said our peice, Josh is more than welcome to come visit any of our regions for a true reflection of the areas without listening to the bitter twisted hopes and dreams of a null alliance.
Move along, nothing to see here. dbp
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Shin Ra
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Posted - 2005.12.02 07:52:00 -
[1390]
I think everyone needs to take a step back and recite 10 reasons why they shouldn't care so much about the map.
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No1 Target
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Posted - 2005.12.02 07:57:00 -
[1391]
Originally by: Galavet And the FA is winning the war, Its all so clear now. Damn, I didnt even notice we were losing. 
Whoa... Bring in huge forces for a POS attack? I'm personally thinking BoB is just trying to force a Blob war... since that's all they are good at doing anymore... and back out of anything else... and really POS's don't really cost that much... so really a worthless venture. Those POS's cost not much more than a BS... So your venture is merely to force people into a battle that will cost them more. Those POS's will probably be put back up as quickly as they are taken down... aren't you glad you spent all that ISK on the Dreads? So where was the lose on this venture? For the 5 Dreads? Oh how horrible taking down the POS's thru fountain? Let's get the figures on this battle... lol. Bet it doesn't match up to the cost on them dreads. I tremble under the great hand of BoB... "The force is strong with this one."
You guys have a good force... how bout taking it against a force that is actually in-game at the time of your attacks... I bet you get different figures from the attacks. Did ya'll figure this equation into your war plans? Oh great ones... that have such a big concuring rate. Hmmm... It's pretty easy to concur an area when those people are asleep or at work. Pretty easy to burn my neighbor's house to the ground when he's away. I smell poo tang.
Great thing is I watched someone "Smack talk" how long it took VC to come up with a defensive against the BoB fleet... Tell me... How long did it take for a planning of this attack? Was it just a bunch of BoB sitting on a station one night saying "Jesus... I'm bored... let's go attack VC"... or was it a planned attack? Did it take a few days for the planning? Probably not... since BoB is such a powerful force and can do things at a whim... so probably took about 5 minutes huh? So the defensive should take about that long too... huh?
What a pile of crap you fill the Eve world up with. Don't let Black Sea Industries go out and Merc Corp... that would leave Delve open to attack with all your forces presently attacking the POS's out in fountain that would leave you open for such things. And you have to show your power up north soon now don't you? Your killing yourselves... it's so awesome to watch.
It's so awesome to watch the in-game propaganda... check all the posts between BoB and others. I think you will find that it is 90% BoB smacktalking over anyone else. I think they should control their posts a bit, because it's mostly people that don't know WTF is going on. Plus they actually admit to things in alot of their posts, but are overpowered by those that don't know WTF is going on... lol. It's an awesome look at the situation.
After you reach the end of fountain BoB... might have to make plans to head back to Hophib because I think you will find most of them towers will be put back up... might have to lay-off them plans for the up-north venture. I hate it when situations just make you change your grand plans. I do love the entertaining crap you fill the Eve world up with tho... Talk does sometimes gets you power don't it? Might have to control it soon tho... Much like Mahammid Ali ending up with brain damage... sometimes too much talk will end you up in a place where you don't know WTF is going on, but you will be remembered.
I love you guys... much more of a media entertainment then anything else.
Laterz, Target
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Julian Delphicki
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Posted - 2005.12.02 07:59:00 -
[1392]
Edited by: Julian Delphicki on 02/12/2005 07:59:30 sigh, scrolled characters
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Baun
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Posted - 2005.12.02 08:00:00 -
[1393]
Edited by: Baun on 02/12/2005 08:02:27
Originally by: DB Preacher
Baun please stop being so bitter and trying to disrupt another map thread.

This all started because BoB's response to someone's (note: not mine) claim that Fountain should be contested was that they were empire dwelling noobs. I suggested rather simply that that response was overly hostile and unwaranted and offered some reasons for not dismissing the person's claim out of hand. Then of course, again, instead of addressing the claim at all, I was flamed by 3 BoB people (one of which decided to start a whole new thread to flame me).
Whats more disruptive in the thread; The attempt to discuss what the map is supposed to be based on or flaming several people who are trying to do that?
Whether or not you believe me to be bitter or not has absolutely no effect on the truth vallue of the rather minute claims I have made or the fact that *you guys* are the one disrupting the thread. Shockingly, the mere fact that someone doesn't agree with you doesn't make them: 1) a noob 2) bitter 3) a liar 4) automatically wrong. So, if you have anything to say in response to the simple factual assertions I made (which, by the way, had no reference to any desire to see Fountain switched to being contested), you ought to say it instead of flaming me.
The Enemy's Gate is Down
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Tadamitsu
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Posted - 2005.12.02 08:09:00 -
[1394]
Could we beg an update?
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Sochin
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Posted - 2005.12.02 08:44:00 -
[1395]
Edited by: Sochin on 02/12/2005 08:47:11
Originally by: Anchra Edited by: Anchra on 02/12/2005 06:47:50 And one more thing. BoB claims they can not remove VC's POS coz we're using an exploit and wont come back to finish them off until CCP has fixed that. Last time we checked, we where allowed to unanchor structures and take them down while in reinforcement mode. About the issue of goin from reinforcement mode to another and another, its not an exploit but part of the game mechanics for how the pos makes use of its resources. I suggest u make ur homework before accusing ppl for cheating. And if winning a war means making CCP altering the game mechanics to ur favor, then u truly are good and deserve to win.
Vertigo Coalition and Fountain Alliance still going strong.
Its obviously a goddamn exploit because it completely circumvents the entire purpose of reinforced mode, which is to set a scheduled time for the owner and attacker of the POS to fight over the POS. Reinforced mode is to prevent people from ganking pos while it's owners are asleep, NOT for letting the owner to remove everything of value from the control tower and anchor it at a brand new tower at another moon.
What the hell is WRONG with you?
Nemo me impune lacessit
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DB Preacher
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Posted - 2005.12.02 10:08:00 -
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Edited by: DB Preacher on 02/12/2005 10:08:03 Baun, Target, I'm not even going to bother wasting my time reading your posts.
We answered loooong time ago in this thread, in the last thread and in the thread before that exactly WHY FA are a non-entity.
Considering they need a pair of random nobodies like you to talk for them goes a loooong way.
Concentrate on your own corps and leave the map thread to people actually involved.
Enjoy the game and please, don't be so bitter because we beat you, it is getting quite sad.
dbp
Current RKK Ranking: (CAL5) Kenin
Drop by and say hi in Reikoku Forums.
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Bizarre
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Posted - 2005.12.02 11:32:00 -
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I've been in Fountain the past week or so now. We have The Priory docked in YZ, CELES getting owned whenever Evolution forms a gang and COLSUP flying around in frigate fleets.
If this is enough for a warzone, then so be it. But Baun and all you other fanboys, stop whining in this thread. You've got your warzone, it's all you claim to want. Now shut up about it.
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Dyvim Tvars
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Posted - 2005.12.02 12:40:00 -
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Thread in process of being cleaned. Everyone please read the rules on the 1st page.
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Rajof
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Posted - 2005.12.02 15:40:00 -
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detorid should at least be a war zone, I've seen more CHIMP guys down here than RA. They're stealing all my kills  ---|||--- A Saint till I Die |

0Virtu0
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Posted - 2005.12.02 21:01:00 -
[1400]
Nothing like an inaccurate outdated map that hasnt been touched in a month.
I think it's about that time for a new mapmaker. ---------------------------------- I play EvE and I don't even get a stupid signature. |
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Kyguard
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Posted - 2005.12.02 21:11:00 -
[1401]
Originally by: 0Virtu0 Nothing like an inaccurate outdated map that hasnt been touched in a month.
I think it's about that time for a new mapmaker.
Hm, I'll admit I would like to see the changes happen a lot quicker, but hey it's good enough tbh. It hasn't even been a month yet... -- I don't represent my alliance
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Xachiriah
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Posted - 2005.12.02 21:14:00 -
[1402]
Edited by: Xachiriah on 02/12/2005 21:13:44
Originally by: 0Virtu0 Nothing like an inaccurate outdated map that hasnt been touched in a month.
I think it's about that time for a new mapmaker.
Someone complained about this before the last update and it came to nothing, stop complaining.
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Joshua Foiritain
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Posted - 2005.12.02 23:38:00 -
[1403]
Originally by: 0Virtu0 Nothing like an inaccurate outdated map that hasnt been touched in a month.
I think it's about that time for a new mapmaker.
14 + 18 = 2, normally months have 30/31 days. Now less moaning and more actually posting useful info.
Anyhows, new version is up, i think i got everything mentioned in this topic and trough evemail. ------------------
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Kirex
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Posted - 2005.12.02 23:49:00 -
[1404]
Number 11 in domain....uh?
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Wuubaa
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Posted - 2005.12.03 00:15:00 -
[1405]
Originally by: 0Virtu0 Nothing like an inaccurate outdated map that hasnt been touched in a month.
I think it's about that time for a new mapmaker.
If you cant hold something for a few weeks u dont deserve to be on the map.
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Harry MacDougal
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Posted - 2005.12.03 01:23:00 -
[1406]
I don't notice warzone 3 anywhere on the map. Perhaps its supposed to be in curse? or detroid?
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Joshua Foiritain
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Posted - 2005.12.03 01:30:00 -
[1407]
Originally by: Kirex Number 11 in domain....uh?
Originally by: Harry MacDougal I don't notice warzone 3 anywhere on the map. Perhaps its supposed to be in curse? or detroid?
Whoopsy, both are fixed now. ------------------
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F'nog
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Posted - 2005.12.03 03:37:00 -
[1408]
Edited by: F''nog on 03/12/2005 03:37:52
Originally by: Joshua Foiritain
Originally by: Kirex Number 11 in domain....uh?
Originally by: Harry MacDougal I don't notice warzone 3 anywhere on the map. Perhaps its supposed to be in curse? or detroid?
Whoopsy, both are fixed now.
Gah, no love for ASCN/GIRON. We've got Eve's biggest war going and don't even make it on the map.
EDIT - oops, NM. But the "Latest" link goes to an older map, not the most current one.
Originally by: rowbin hod Fragm's Oversized Ego Cannon barely scratches the forums, inflicting omgnoonecares damage.
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Pepperami
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Posted - 2005.12.03 03:44:00 -
[1409]
Originally by: F'nog EDIT - oops, NM. But the "Latest" link goes to an older map, not the most current one.
Press ctrl-f5 to refresh the image, or alternatively clear your cache. The "latest" image is latest  _____________________________________________________
[We're Recruiting!] [http://spankage.co.uk] |

F'nog
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Posted - 2005.12.03 05:08:00 -
[1410]
Originally by: Pepperami
Originally by: F'nog EDIT - oops, NM. But the "Latest" link goes to an older map, not the most current one.
Press ctrl-f5 to refresh the image, or alternatively clear your cache. The "latest" image is latest 
Hmm, still showing up as the wrong version. Must be a FF thing. 
Originally by: rowbin hod Fragm's Oversized Ego Cannon barely scratches the forums, inflicting omgnoonecares damage.
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Joshua Foiritain
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Posted - 2005.12.03 11:34:00 -
[1411]
Originally by: F'nog
Originally by: Pepperami
Originally by: F'nog EDIT - oops, NM. But the "Latest" link goes to an older map, not the most current one.
Press ctrl-f5 to refresh the image, or alternatively clear your cache. The "latest" image is latest 
Hmm, still showing up as the wrong version. Must be a FF thing. 
My FF showed me the latest after refreshing  ------------------
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sidthesexist
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Posted - 2005.12.03 13:03:00 -
[1412]
As far as im aware from being in the region.
Stain: Is contested but i mostly see VIRII in Curse/Catch while IRON/G/RZR patrol from HED down to Estoria.
___________ Drones of Annihilation I.R.O.N |

Logan Williams
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Posted - 2005.12.03 13:14:00 -
[1413]
Edited by: Logan Williams on 03/12/2005 13:14:46 I haven't been there to see it personally but, isn't there an FSA refinery smack in the middle of the "Uncontested" region of Teneferis?
My comments are my own. More often than not I have moments of sheer stupidity. I don't need to drag my friends and allies down with me. |

Quent
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Posted - 2005.12.03 15:40:00 -
[1414]
Tenerifis is contested between FSA and MWA(I think so)
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Shin Ra
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Posted - 2005.12.03 22:31:00 -
[1415]
Originally by: Quent Tenerifis is contested between FSA and MWA(I think so)
I think so too.
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Creamster
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Posted - 2005.12.04 06:05:00 -
[1416]
Warzone 5 is nonexistant. And Omist is contested between kos and se. ___________ 2005.09.04:"After the 7 days SE corporations will be removed from the said regions" (Q) XB killboard |

Nelson Vandermark
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Posted - 2005.12.04 11:12:00 -
[1417]
Requesting the map maker to review the war mark number 7 on the map and see if it is still warranted, as today marks the two week period for the update to war markers addition to the political medium which the map maker maintains.
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G'ulSera
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Posted - 2005.12.04 11:55:00 -
[1418]
Can you plz change the name of our alliance?
It says Chimera Pact on the map... It's Chimaera Pact :)
Thanx in advance... *For Blood and Honour* *The difference between a killer and a soldier is a question of loyalty*
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Comanche26
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Posted - 2005.12.04 15:04:00 -
[1419]
SN - Stella Nova is currently living in South Germ. FE is allowing SN to have a bit of thier territory. The area covered is from Atioth - O-VWPB. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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Kim Landis
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Posted - 2005.12.04 17:43:00 -
[1420]
since i led a gaggle of ibis though the cloud ring and into the fade and back, and even mined a few roids, does that mean the caldari ibis squad can claim territory 
in all seriousness, good luck with the person who doing this map, its all depends on reports from those involved...
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Laurelin1420

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Posted - 2005.12.04 19:11:00 -
[1421]
Thread cleaned following update :)
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John Blackthorn
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Posted - 2005.12.04 20:51:00 -
[1422]
Edited by: John Blackthorn on 04/12/2005 20:52:39 Delete ME
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Amthrianius
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Posted - 2005.12.05 07:40:00 -
[1423]
Venal is pretty much ours now, the only people who actually fight us in Venal are F-E. Seems PA have fled the region. ---------------
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thoth foc
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Posted - 2005.12.05 13:20:00 -
[1424]
Originally by: Amthrianius Venal is pretty much ours now, the only people who actually fight us in Venal are F-E. Seems PA have fled the region.
PA seemed to have moved to branch last i was there..
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Sister 9
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Posted - 2005.12.05 14:31:00 -
[1425]
OR-GZQ is pretty much mine now. No one is fighting me here, and i have been unopposed for weeks.
Joshua, if you would like to come along and let me show you around, give me a pm ingame.
many thanks,
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Trading Master
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Posted - 2005.12.05 18:19:00 -
[1426]
uhm i noticed FE presence in Venal, indeed, i noticed [5] presence in H-PA29 , i noticed PA in 6nj, y-4cfk, p-vyl , bkg and empire, PA is fighting in Empire also, FE is in venal to help as is NBSI , now ... how can you claim it when ya stay in 1 sistem (h-pa) and PA lives in 3 other ? and allies of PA help PA? how ? i just cant see that claim to be true. Pa is fighing 2 alliances, they are few but the nuclem of PVP force remained, [5] claim is non-sense... for now.
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Trading Master
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Posted - 2005.12.05 18:20:00 -
[1427]
Edited by: Trading Master on 05/12/2005 18:25:19 double post soz f***** net connection
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danneh
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Posted - 2005.12.06 04:12:00 -
[1428]
Originally by: Trading Master uhm i noticed FE presence in Venal, indeed, i noticed [5] presence in H-PA29 , i noticed PA in 6nj, y-4cfk, p-vyl , bkg and empire, PA is fighting in Empire also, FE is in venal to help as is NBSI , now ... how can you claim it when ya stay in 1 sistem (h-pa) and PA lives in 3 other ? and allies of PA help PA? how ? i just cant see that claim to be true. Pa is fighing 2 alliances, they are few but the nuclem of PVP force remained, [5] claim is non-sense... for now.
I see more BOB and .5. in Venal then PA.
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c0rn1
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Posted - 2005.12.06 15:11:00 -
[1429]
Edited by: c0rn1 on 06/12/2005 15:13:07 A short information about Tenerifis:
NZW and dz6 station are currently under our control and sovereignity. MWA decreased from 600+ members to 200+ within the past 2 weeks whereas FSA is growing. Contested area in Tenerifis is currently the pipe dz6 <-> jv1 and jv1 itself. just check spacemap for sov you'll see that this is the current status out there.
Cheers
edit: typos
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Ilany
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Posted - 2005.12.07 14:27:00 -
[1430]
The Pirate Infestation in lower Domain could be downgraded (for now). The major pirate factions (Priory and TSDS) are currently AWOL. -------
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Caeneus
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Posted - 2005.12.07 17:32:00 -
[1431]
As of now FSA has full contorl of nzw and dz6. MWA is moving out this weekend and FSA will take and control Tenerifis by monday's DT. thanks Caeneus - Dir of Apoct and FSA YARRR |

Adamus TorK
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Posted - 2005.12.08 08:20:00 -
[1432]
Originally by: danneh
Originally by: Trading Master uhm i noticed FE presence in Venal, indeed, i noticed [5] presence in H-PA29 , i noticed PA in 6nj, y-4cfk, p-vyl , bkg and empire, PA is fighting in Empire also, FE is in venal to help as is NBSI , now ... how can you claim it when ya stay in 1 sistem (h-pa) and PA lives in 3 other ? and allies of PA help PA? how ? i just cant see that claim to be true. Pa is fighing 2 alliances, they are few but the nuclem of PVP force remained, [5] claim is non-sense... for now.
I see more BOB and .5. in Venal then PA.
I see more ATUK logging out with WCS when we form a gang than ever before. ---------------------------------
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pershphanie
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Posted - 2005.12.08 10:36:00 -
[1433]
Edited by: pershphanie on 08/12/2005 10:37:55
Originally by: Amthrianius Venal is pretty much ours now, the only people who actually fight us in Venal are F-E. Seems PA have fled the region.
Thats a lie. We only goto Venal to mine. I'd like to request a big mining laser symbol over venal and tribute. |

Xeethra
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Posted - 2005.12.08 15:34:00 -
[1434]
Originally by: Adamus TorK
Originally by: danneh
Originally by: Trading Master uhm i noticed FE presence in Venal, indeed, i noticed [5] presence in H-PA29 , i noticed PA in 6nj, y-4cfk, p-vyl , bkg and empire, PA is fighting in Empire also, FE is in venal to help as is NBSI , now ... how can you claim it when ya stay in 1 sistem (h-pa) and PA lives in 3 other ? and allies of PA help PA? how ? i just cant see that claim to be true. Pa is fighing 2 alliances, they are few but the nuclem of PVP force remained, [5] claim is non-sense... for now.
I see more BOB and .5. in Venal then PA.
I see more ATUK logging out with WCS when we form a gang than ever before.
i see more FE smack on the forums that i do actual fighting, loser ---------------------------------------------
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Berrik Radhok
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Posted - 2005.12.08 15:54:00 -
[1435]
Syndicate isn't a pirate infestation, Omega Security Syndicate controls part of it :)
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Recscue
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Posted - 2005.12.09 15:10:00 -
[1436]
Originally by: Xeethra
Originally by: Adamus TorK
Originally by: danneh
Originally by: Trading Master uhm i noticed FE presence in Venal, indeed, i noticed [5] presence in H-PA29 , i noticed PA in 6nj, y-4cfk, p-vyl , bkg and empire, PA is fighting in Empire also, FE is in venal to help as is NBSI , now ... how can you claim it when ya stay in 1 sistem (h-pa) and PA lives in 3 other ? and allies of PA help PA? how ? i just cant see that claim to be true. Pa is fighing 2 alliances, they are few but the nuclem of PVP force remained, [5] claim is non-sense... for now.
I see more BOB and .5. in Venal then PA.
I see more ATUK logging out with WCS when we form a gang than ever before.
i see more FE smack on the forums that i do actual fighting, loser
5 does enough smacktalking on their own, they don't need others doing it for them

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maria stallion
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Posted - 2005.12.10 10:45:00 -
[1437]
Originally by: Xeethra
Originally by: Adamus TorK
Originally by: danneh
Originally by: Trading Master uhm i noticed FE presence in Venal, indeed, i noticed [5] presence in H-PA29 , i noticed PA in 6nj, y-4cfk, p-vyl , bkg and empire, PA is fighting in Empire also, FE is in venal to help as is NBSI , now ... how can you claim it when ya stay in 1 sistem (h-pa) and PA lives in 3 other ? and allies of PA help PA? how ? i just cant see that claim to be true. Pa is fighing 2 alliances, they are few but the nuclem of PVP force remained, [5] claim is non-sense... for now.
I see more BOB and .5. in Venal then PA.
I see more ATUK logging out with WCS when we form a gang than ever before.
i see more FE smack on the forums that i do actual fighting, loser
the reason why you see us not fighting is because everytime we get a fleet 5 goes back to H-pa and dock or get there 150 km snipping bs. even on equal numbers...
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ZedLey
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Posted - 2005.12.10 10:58:00 -
[1438]
Originally by: maria stallion
Originally by: Xeethra
Originally by: Adamus TorK
Originally by: danneh
Originally by: Trading Master uhm i noticed FE presence in Venal, indeed, i noticed [5] presence in H-PA29 , i noticed PA in 6nj, y-4cfk, p-vyl , bkg and empire, PA is fighting in Empire also, FE is in venal to help as is NBSI , now ... how can you claim it when ya stay in 1 sistem (h-pa) and PA lives in 3 other ? and allies of PA help PA? how ? i just cant see that claim to be true. Pa is fighing 2 alliances, they are few but the nuclem of PVP force remained, [5] claim is non-sense... for now.
I see more BOB and .5. in Venal then PA.
I see more ATUK logging out with WCS when we form a gang than ever before.
i see more FE smack on the forums that i do actual fighting, loser
the reason why you see us not fighting is because everytime we get a fleet 5 goes back to H-pa and dock or get there 150 km snipping bs. even on equal numbers...
Yes. because everyone believes what you say . Fact is I dont see you neither I see your corp in Tribute fighting us _ever_. Sad thing is you got nothing to backup your forum smack.
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Alex Krause
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Posted - 2005.12.10 11:29:00 -
[1439]
Originally by: maria stallion
Originally by: Xeethra
Originally by: Adamus TorK
Originally by: danneh
Originally by: Trading Master uhm i noticed FE presence in Venal, indeed, i noticed [5] presence in H-PA29 , i noticed PA in 6nj, y-4cfk, p-vyl , bkg and empire, PA is fighting in Empire also, FE is in venal to help as is NBSI , now ... how can you claim it when ya stay in 1 sistem (h-pa) and PA lives in 3 other ? and allies of PA help PA? how ? i just cant see that claim to be true. Pa is fighing 2 alliances, they are few but the nuclem of PVP force remained, [5] claim is non-sense... for now.
I see more BOB and .5. in Venal then PA.
I see more ATUK logging out with WCS when we form a gang than ever before.
i see more FE smack on the forums that i do actual fighting, loser
the reason why you see us not fighting is because everytime we get a fleet 5 goes back to H-pa and dock or get there 150 km snipping bs. even on equal numbers...
Stop embarrasing youself.
Look at the Recruitment Section to see where all your alliance m8's are bailing to.
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Shin Ra
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Posted - 2005.12.10 11:54:00 -
[1440]
MWA have left tenerifis. FSA control 2 of the stations and Shinra/Mcorp control the JV1V station.
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thoth foc
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Posted - 2005.12.10 11:55:00 -
[1441]
Originally by: maria stallion
the reason why you see us not fighting is because everytime we get a fleet 5 goes back to H-pa and dock or get there 150 km snipping bs. even on equal numbers...
so.. you saying.. if you get a fleet, and we get our fleet.. u run away..
isnt that enuff to remove F-E control of tribute?
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maria stallion
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Posted - 2005.12.10 21:17:00 -
[1442]
just telling the situation during the time I'm one these situation are most commen atm, but that doesn't mean it happends all the time, for people not seeing me in h-pa that is very well possible since I'm not always on or in h-pa, but I don't see every 5 member in h-pa aswell only a couple does that mean you aren't there?
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Recluse Viramor
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Posted - 2005.12.11 03:42:00 -
[1443]
this thread needs some mopping up, clean out the smack and spam
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Abdalion

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Posted - 2005.12.11 06:58:00 -
[1444]
Originally by: Recluse Viramor this thread needs some mopping up, clean out the smack and spam
Done.
No more unidentified alt posting in this thread.
Instawarn.
Reread Zhuge's post up above for rule update.
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thedragoon
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Posted - 2005.12.11 13:55:00 -
[1445]
Burn Eden Have pulled out of the KOS/SE area and have started engaging RA and 5 in Curse and have operations deep in RA space.
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ZedLey
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Posted - 2005.12.11 16:28:00 -
[1446]
Edited by: ZedLey on 11/12/2005 16:29:31
Originally by: thedragoon Burn Eden Have pulled out of the KOS/SE area and have started engaging RA and 5 in Curse and have operations deep in RA space.
I reckon this is what you had in mind

Edit: I was bored k ;(
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Edoo
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Posted - 2005.12.11 17:56:00 -
[1447]
Originally by: Amthrianius Venal is pretty much ours now, the only people who actually fight us in Venal are F-E. Seems PA have fled the region.
[5] have very little control over the region. Atuk are found redocking outside H-PA station or refuelling their SS POS. PA on the whole continue their daily life as normal, and [5] manage to gank the odd NPCer... and occasionally have the guts to engage PvPers when a GM is helping them, or the numbers are heavily in their favour.
If you can exadurate, so will I. You know well PA are still in the area and fighting you, and you have zero influence outside H-PA.
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Amthrianius
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Posted - 2005.12.11 19:49:00 -
[1448]
Originally by: Edoo
Originally by: Amthrianius Venal is pretty much ours now, the only people who actually fight us in Venal are F-E. Seems PA have fled the region.
[5] have very little control over the region. Atuk are found redocking outside H-PA station or refuelling their SS POS. PA on the whole continue their daily life as normal, and [5] manage to gank the odd NPCer... and occasionally have the guts to engage PvPers when a GM is helping them, or the numbers are heavily in their favour.
If you can exadurate, so will I. You know well PA are still in the area and fighting you, and you have zero influence outside H-PA.
Do you contest Venal?
Didn't think so, your corp quickly left PA so you im afraid have no position to argue for PA as it is only for the contesting alliance to do. Not to mention most of your post is false. ---------------
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danneh
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Posted - 2005.12.12 07:09:00 -
[1449]
Originally by: Edoo
Originally by: Amthrianius Venal is pretty much ours now, the only people who actually fight us in Venal are F-E. Seems PA have fled the region.
[5] have very little control over the region. Atuk are found redocking outside H-PA station or refuelling their SS POS. PA on the whole continue their daily life as normal, and [5] manage to gank the odd NPCer... and occasionally have the guts to engage PvPers when a GM is helping them, or the numbers are heavily in their favour.
If you can exadurate, so will I. You know well PA are still in the area and fighting you, and you have zero influence outside H-PA.
GM helping them?, you seriously need to grow up.
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Garnerius De'Nugent
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Posted - 2005.12.12 10:22:00 -
[1450]
Edited by: Garnerius De''Nugent on 12/12/2005 10:22:41 Edited by: Garnerius De''Nugent on 12/12/2005 10:22:18
Originally by: Edoo [5] manage to gank the odd NPCer... and occasionally have the guts to engage PvPers when a GM is helping them
/me can smell a ban coming. idiot. 
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Adamus TorK
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Posted - 2005.12.12 11:05:00 -
[1451]
Originally by: Garnerius De'Nugent Edited by: Garnerius De''Nugent on 12/12/2005 10:22:41 Edited by: Garnerius De''Nugent on 12/12/2005 10:22:18
Originally by: Edoo [5] manage to gank the odd NPCer... and occasionally have the guts to engage PvPers when a GM is helping them
/me can smell a ban coming. idiot. 
I'm sorry if all sign pointing to that possibility, but things aint looks absolute fair in this war when a GM shows up. We can blame CCP for lag, GMs to helping BoB or ATUK or anyone, but its unnecessary. In my opinion, ppl play this game and not computers. And ppl are abominable... ppl mess up wars with spies. Gathering infos from forums would be enought, but no... ppl wants to know all informations of it's enemy movement, so they hear our command on TS, read our Gang chat and military channels.
I hate all spies.... you blow the morale up for gameplay pleasure... ---------------------------------
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ZedLey
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Posted - 2005.12.12 11:57:00 -
[1452]
Originally by: Adamus TorK
Originally by: Garnerius De'Nugent Edited by: Garnerius De''Nugent on 12/12/2005 10:22:41 Edited by: Garnerius De''Nugent on 12/12/2005 10:22:18
Originally by: Edoo [5] manage to gank the odd NPCer... and occasionally have the guts to engage PvPers when a GM is helping them
/me can smell a ban coming. idiot. 
I'm sorry if all sign pointing to that possibility, but things aint looks absolute fair in this war when a GM shows up. We can blame CCP for lag, GMs to helping BoB or ATUK or anyone, but its unnecessary. In my opinion, ppl play this game and not computers. And ppl are abominable... ppl mess up wars with spies. Gathering infos from forums would be enought, but no... ppl wants to know all informations of it's enemy movement, so they hear our command on TS, read our Gang chat and military channels.
I hate all spies.... you blow the morale up for gameplay pleasure...
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Ithildin
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Posted - 2005.12.12 12:45:00 -
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Just when you add it, we move away. MC are no longer harassing -V- in Great Wildlands, but you all knew this by now.
Ar+es n. Greek Mythology - The god of war. v. Eve online - Expensive and useless |

threeD
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Posted - 2005.12.12 13:03:00 -
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branch - RISK is no more - therefore branch is totaly under PA control venal - only place contested in this region is HP-A system [5] sits there and lauch thier gank squads - there is no way that whole venal is contested since we all live there w/o any trouble
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thoth foc
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Posted - 2005.12.12 13:26:00 -
[1455]
Originally by: threeD
venal - only place contested in this region is HP-A system [5] sits there and lauch thier gank squads - there is no way that whole venal is contested since we all live there w/o any trouble
if PA had any kind of control on venal, you would maybe try and stop our roaming squads.. the fact you dont speaks volumes about who controls teh space.. i remember being in a roaming squad stuck in PA space for 3 days when you camped us in with bubbles for that long.. doesnt happen now.. as soon as you see a BS you insta dock. there is still PA in venal, but F-E fight more there than PA do
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Drilla
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Posted - 2005.12.13 11:40:00 -
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[5] are in total and undisputed control of Tenerifis.
Sov. is ours not even contested, stations are ours and space is quiet.
Seek not to bar my way, for I shall win through - no matter the cost! |

Awalance
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Posted - 2005.12.14 11:17:00 -
[1457]
Originally by: thoth foc
Originally by: threeD
venal - only place contested in this region is HP-A system [5] sits there and lauch thier gank squads - there is no way that whole venal is contested since we all live there w/o any trouble
if PA had any kind of control on venal, you would maybe try and stop our roaming squads.. the fact you dont speaks volumes about who controls teh space.. i remember being in a roaming squad stuck in PA space for 3 days when you camped us in with bubbles for that long.. doesnt happen now.. as soon as you see a BS you insta dock. there is still PA in venal, but F-E fight more there than PA do
actualy all remain pvp PA grup are in HED-GP ..... ------------------------
after you die ,and all peoples who knows you die also ..its like you never exist |

Political Observer
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Posted - 2005.12.14 19:12:00 -
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BoB is contesting Deklien. BoB captured IRON outpost in JU-.
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DB Preacher
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Posted - 2005.12.14 20:19:00 -
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Originally by: Political Observer BoB is contesting Deklien. BoB captured IRON outpost in JU-.
NO.
Quote: 5. Unidentified alts should not post in this thread -Abdalion
Don't waste your time posting for BoB again.
dbp
Current RKK Ranking: (CAL6) Tanto
Drop by and say hi in Reikoku Forums.
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Constantine Arcanum
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Posted - 2005.12.14 20:57:00 -
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Update- The Miners With Attitude Alliance has lost control of Tenerifis after being captured by the Free Space Alliance. The area could be classed as a warzone, as lots of other alliances have moved in to Tenerifis to exploit this.
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Shivin
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Posted - 2005.12.15 18:30:00 -
[1461]
Outer Ring is NORAD, see very few BoB there these days
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Bass
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Posted - 2005.12.15 19:16:00 -
[1462]
Originally by: Constantine Arcanum Update- The Miners With Attitude Alliance has lost control of Tenerifis after being captured by the Free Space Alliance. The area could be classed as a warzone, as lots of other alliances have moved in to Tenerifis to exploit this.
Your news is old, the stations have changed hands twice since FSA had it. Knights of the Southerncross had them, and now [5] has control of the entire region.
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Senjii
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Posted - 2005.12.16 11:43:00 -
[1463]
Originally by: Bass
Originally by: Constantine Arcanum Update- The Miners With Attitude Alliance has lost control of Tenerifis after being captured by the Free Space Alliance. The area could be classed as a warzone, as lots of other alliances have moved in to Tenerifis to exploit this.
Your news is old, the stations have changed hands twice since FSA had it. Knights of the Southerncross had them, and now [5] has control of the entire region.
.5. or rather M Corp/Shinra? 
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danneh
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Posted - 2005.12.16 12:08:00 -
[1464]
Originally by: Senjii
Originally by: Bass
Originally by: Constantine Arcanum Update- The Miners With Attitude Alliance has lost control of Tenerifis after being captured by the Free Space Alliance. The area could be classed as a warzone, as lots of other alliances have moved in to Tenerifis to exploit this.
Your news is old, the stations have changed hands twice since FSA had it. Knights of the Southerncross had them, and now [5] has control of the entire region.
.5. or rather M Corp/Shinra? 
Does it matter? they are both .5.
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Bass
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Posted - 2005.12.16 18:11:00 -
[1465]
Originally by: Senjii
Originally by: Bass
Originally by: Constantine Arcanum Update- The Miners With Attitude Alliance has lost control of Tenerifis after being captured by the Free Space Alliance. The area could be classed as a warzone, as lots of other alliances have moved in to Tenerifis to exploit this.
Your news is old, the stations have changed hands twice since FSA had it. Knights of the Southerncross had them, and now [5] has control of the entire region.
.5. or rather M Corp/Shinra? 
Corps don't have sovreignty, alliances do.
- Bass
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pershphanie
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Posted - 2005.12.17 21:19:00 -
[1466]
Originally by: danneh
Originally by: Senjii
Originally by: Bass
Originally by: Constantine Arcanum Update- The Miners With Attitude Alliance has lost control of Tenerifis after being captured by the Free Space Alliance. The area could be classed as a warzone, as lots of other alliances have moved in to Tenerifis to exploit this.
Your news is old, the stations have changed hands twice since FSA had it. Knights of the Southerncross had them, and now [5] has control of the entire region.
.5. or rather M Corp/Shinra? 
Does it matter? they are both .5.
no they arent |

Pepperami
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Posted - 2005.12.17 21:56:00 -
[1467]
Originally by: pershphanie
Originally by: danneh
Originally by: Senjii
.5. or rather M Corp/Shinra? 
Does it matter? they are both .5.
no they arent
How long you been waiting to reply with that?  ___________________________
Originally by: TheKiller8 anyone who disagrees with my opinion is a racist.
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pershphanie
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Posted - 2005.12.18 00:23:00 -
[1468]
Originally by: Pepperami
Originally by: pershphanie
Originally by: danneh
Originally by: Senjii
.5. or rather M Corp/Shinra? 
Does it matter? they are both .5.
no they arent
How long you been waiting to reply with that? 
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Amthrianius
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Posted - 2005.12.18 06:07:00 -
[1469]
PA are for the most part still not around venal. Most we see of them is logging on 3 seconds after dt, doing a 8/10 complex and logging off.  ---------------
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Edoo
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Posted - 2005.12.18 17:04:00 -
[1470]
Edited by: Edoo on 18/12/2005 17:11:42
Originally by: Amthrianius PA are for the most part still not around venal. Most we see of them is logging on 3 seconds after dt, doing a 8/10 complex and logging off. 
Dude i think you're on drugs
I realise things are getting tough for Atuk atm, but this propaganda is getting you nowhere 
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Amthrianius
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Posted - 2005.12.18 18:05:00 -
[1471]
Originally by: Edoo Edited by: Edoo on 18/12/2005 17:11:42
Originally by: Amthrianius PA are for the most part still not around venal. Most we see of them is logging on 3 seconds after dt, doing a 8/10 complex and logging off. 
Dude i think you're on drugs
I realise things are getting tough for Atuk atm, but this propaganda is getting you nowhere 
To quote what i said earlier
Quote: Do you contest Venal?
Didn't think so, your corp quickly left PA so you im afraid have no position to argue for PA as it is only for the contesting alliance to do. Not to mention most of your post is false.
Also, who are you? I havent seen you in venal, have you ever been to venal, or is the only time you actually travel through venal is when you go from IMK to Tenal in your osprey with thos ep-s gaussians?. Clearly you have great insight into venal as you know the only times you have encountered us you have died without us suffering a single loss by you, i mean, you havent even participated on a single kill on us, but ok, keep lying, its all good. But covering your eyes and screaming "i cant see you i cant see" you only works for so long. ---------------
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Edoo
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Posted - 2005.12.18 18:40:00 -
[1472]
Originally by: Amthrianius
Originally by: Edoo Edited by: Edoo on 18/12/2005 17:11:42
Originally by: Amthrianius PA are for the most part still not around venal. Most we see of them is logging on 3 seconds after dt, doing a 8/10 complex and logging off. 
Dude i think you're on drugs
I realise things are getting tough for Atuk atm, but this propaganda is getting you nowhere 
To quote what i said earlier
Quote: Do you contest Venal?
Didn't think so, your corp quickly left PA so you im afraid have no position to argue for PA as it is only for the contesting alliance to do. Not to mention most of your post is false.
Also, who are you? I havent seen you in venal, have you ever been to venal, or is the only time you actually travel through venal is when you go from IMK to Tenal in your osprey with thos ep-s gaussians?. Clearly you have great insight into venal as you know the only times you have encountered us you have died without us suffering a single loss by you, i mean, you havent even participated on a single kill on us, but ok, keep lying, its all good. But covering your eyes and screaming "i cant see you i cant see" you only works for so long.
I don't live in tenal, and i have always lived in Venal. I am ex- PA, and I have been fighting in empire with this char as the killboards show, but i have a char in PA who lives in Venal permanently. I must admit i havn't killed an Atuk member for quite some time, due to their consistent use of warp core stabilisers, but that is a seperate issue.
I never gloated saying i killed lots of you, im just saying your post was propaganda, and is a very warped perception of reality. No need to get worked up or try to insult me, so just relax.
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Vince Draken
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Posted - 2005.12.18 23:31:00 -
[1473]
Originally by: Edoo
Originally by: Amthrianius
Originally by: Edoo Edited by: Edoo on 18/12/2005 17:11:42
Originally by: Amthrianius PA are for the most part still not around venal. Most we see of them is logging on 3 seconds after dt, doing a 8/10 complex and logging off. 
Dude i think you're on drugs
I realise things are getting tough for Atuk atm, but this propaganda is getting you nowhere 
To quote what i said earlier
Quote: Do you contest Venal?
Didn't think so, your corp quickly left PA so you im afraid have no position to argue for PA as it is only for the contesting alliance to do. Not to mention most of your post is false.
Also, who are you? I havent seen you in venal, have you ever been to venal, or is the only time you actually travel through venal is when you go from IMK to Tenal in your osprey with thos ep-s gaussians?. Clearly you have great insight into venal as you know the only times you have encountered us you have died without us suffering a single loss by you, i mean, you havent even participated on a single kill on us, but ok, keep lying, its all good. But covering your eyes and screaming "i cant see you i cant see" you only works for so long.
I don't live in tenal, and i have always lived in Venal. I am ex- PA, and I have been fighting in empire with this char as the killboards show, but i have a char in PA who lives in Venal permanently. I must admit i havn't killed an Atuk member for quite some time, due to their consistent use of warp core stabilisers, but that is a seperate issue.
I never gloated saying i killed lots of you, im just saying your post was propaganda, and is a very warped perception of reality. No need to get worked up or try to insult me, so just relax.
Atleast you're wearing a tinfoil hat ingame too.
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Edoo
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Posted - 2005.12.19 00:25:00 -
[1474]
lol 
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shivan
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Posted - 2005.12.20 01:20:00 -
[1475]
Catch is now contested between the combined froces of SA/Huzzah and FIX.
SA and Huzzah now control 5-NE2Y and V2-VC2 stations.
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fugazii
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Posted - 2005.12.20 03:58:00 -
[1476]
Originally by: Amthrianius PA are for the most part still not around venal. Most we see of them is logging on 3 seconds after dt, doing a 8/10 complex and logging off. 
dont you know your own propaganda? pa died months ago.
(couldnt resist )
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Orc A
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Posted - 2005.12.20 11:29:00 -
[1477]
Hey josh. Please remove warzone from Stain region - Virii are not there for a long time now, and SE are dealing with omyst, and are not present in the Stain region. No active war in the Stain region, Catch (the fix part of it) and querious deserve War zone markers.
2 Stations has been captured by the combined forces of Huzzuh and SA, and sov is claimed at atleast 1 of those systems. I dunno if it deserves a contested space mark, but a warzone it surelly is.
Thanks :)
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Orc A
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Posted - 2005.12.20 11:30:00 -
[1478]
Also, SA arent really present up north anymore. We are concentrated on some pixies. err, i meant Fixies.
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CT BadIronTree
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Posted - 2005.12.20 13:53:00 -
[1479]
update the map man or quit and let someone start it over again :PPP ps: good job so far btw :) ============================================ Colossus Technologies The first and oldest corp in eve! BadIronTree Head of Production
CSM Chat Log September 25, 2003: Fuhry> Some things we simply cannot test, and therefore we just put it on Tranq. cross our fingers and then get into panic mode. --------------------------------------- playing (or beta testing)since Sat, 2 Nov 2002 16:06 (beta 5) ---------------------------------------
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Raid
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Posted - 2005.12.20 14:26:00 -
[1480]
Originally by: Orc A Hey josh. Please remove warzone from Stain region - Virii are not there for a long time now.
Confirmed, Virii can be found docked inside stations within curse. Primarily we have seen them in Utopia. -----------------------
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Creamster
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Posted - 2005.12.20 14:31:00 -
[1481]
Edited by: Creamster on 20/12/2005 14:32:36 SE is in full control of Omist. All of the stations have been ours for at least a week, and we have a superior military presense pretty much 24/7. Got an official declared as well. 
edit: Bass, afaik KOS alliance has never had any stations in Tenerifis ___________ If you need further assistance, please don't hesitate to contact us again. We'll do all we can to help. |

CT BadIronTree
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Posted - 2005.12.20 14:54:00 -
[1482]
and from my report say that 5 dont have anything in PA space exept 1 system... and that F-E are kick their ass :) ============================================ Colossus Technologies The first and oldest corp in eve! BadIronTree Head of Production
CSM Chat Log September 25, 2003: Fuhry> Some things we simply cannot test, and therefore we just put it on Tranq. cross our fingers and then get into panic mode. --------------------------------------- playing (or beta testing)since Sat, 2 Nov 2002 16:06 (beta 5) ---------------------------------------
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Joshua Foiritain
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Posted - 2005.12.20 18:28:00 -
[1483]
Edited by: Joshua Foiritain on 20/12/2005 18:29:15
New update, i think i covered everything in this topic accept for possible changes to PA space. I was unable to do any real scouting of their space due to RMR, will do it for the next update.
Shout if missed/messed anything. ------------------
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pershphanie
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Posted - 2005.12.20 18:41:00 -
[1484]
Edited by: pershphanie on 20/12/2005 18:41:19
Originally by: Joshua Foiritain Edited by: Joshua Foiritain on 20/12/2005 18:29:15
New update, i think i covered everything in this topic accept for possible changes to PA space. I was unable to do any real scouting of their space due to RMR, will do it for the next update.
Shout if missed/messed anything.
You have marker 8 listed as the5, -V-, SA vs PA, FE, NBSI. SA, -V-, the5 are no longer fighting there. It is only atuk there now |

Drilla
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Posted - 2005.12.20 20:03:00 -
[1485]
Josh - if you could remove the space between VOL and TERRA so it's Volterra, that would be awesome.

Seek not to bar my way, for I shall win through - no matter the cost! |
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Laurelin1420

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Posted - 2005.12.20 20:45:00 -
[1486]
Thread cleaned following map update 
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thoth foc
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Posted - 2005.12.20 20:59:00 -
[1487]
Originally by: pershphanie
You have marker 8 listed as the5, -V-, SA vs PA, FE, NBSI. SA, -V-, the5 are no longer fighting there. It is only atuk there now
it has been 99% ATUK for all but a couple of weeks, there is no change to our presence but i'd say removing SA and -V- is very appropriate..
as for scouting the area, well it kinna needs fixing by CCP b4 anything much can happen..
--thoth [5], ex-Curse Alliance ex-DSMA |

CT BadIronTree
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Posted - 2005.12.20 22:29:00 -
[1488]
Originally by: thoth foc
Originally by: pershphanie
You have marker 8 listed as the5, -V-, SA vs PA, FE, NBSI. SA, -V-, the5 are no longer fighting there. It is only atuk there now
it has been 99% ATUK for all but a couple of weeks, there is no change to our presence but i'd say removing SA and -V- is very appropriate..
as for scouting the area, well it kinna needs fixing by CCP b4 anything much can happen..
from what hear 5 dont control all the region only the main entry system... people do mining and hunt npc 3 jumps from the 5's system ============================================ Colossus Technologies The first and oldest corp in eve! BadIronTree Head of Production
CSM Chat Log September 25, 2003: Fuhry> Some things we simply cannot test, and therefore we just put it on Tranq. cross our fingers and then get into panic mode. --------------------------------------- playing (or beta testing)since Sat, 2 Nov 2002 16:06 (beta 5) ---------------------------------------
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Joshua Foiritain
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Posted - 2005.12.20 22:36:00 -
[1489]
Originally by: Drilla Josh - if you could remove the space between VOL and TERRA so it's Volterra, that would be awesome.
Hmm i could have sworn i saw a space in it on the forum listing...
Originally by: thoth foc as for scouting the area, well it kinna needs fixing by CCP b4 anything much can happen..
Fix what exactly? ------------------
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thoth foc
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Posted - 2005.12.21 01:25:00 -
[1490]
Edited by: thoth foc on 21/12/2005 01:27:10
Originally by: Joshua Foiritain
Originally by: thoth foc as for scouting the area, well it kinna needs fixing by CCP b4 anything much can happen..
Fix what exactly?
5->10 minute delays on doing anything in a couple of the systems.. jumping, aligning warping activating modules... u get the idea.. i didnt even bother logging in today cuz when i got on ts, i heard about alot of us were experiencing CTD's every time they tried to do anything in certain places.. most ops were just cancelled this evening, due to lack of confidence in servers about here..
1 of the main routes from venal to tribute was having problems pre patch, lots of ppl getting stuck etc.. well post patch things seem to have gotten much worse..
i think F-E will support the assessment if you wanna check here for pershphanie's assessment of the area
--thoth [5], ex-Curse Alliance ex-DSMA |
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pershphanie
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Posted - 2005.12.21 03:36:00 -
[1491]
Originally by: thoth foc Edited by: thoth foc on 21/12/2005 01:27:10
Originally by: Joshua Foiritain
Originally by: thoth foc as for scouting the area, well it kinna needs fixing by CCP b4 anything much can happen..
Fix what exactly?
5->10 minute delays on doing anything in a couple of the systems.. jumping, aligning warping activating modules... u get the idea.. i didnt even bother logging in today cuz when i got on ts, i heard about alot of us were experiencing CTD's every time they tried to do anything in certain places.. most ops were just cancelled this evening, due to lack of confidence in servers about here..
1 of the main routes from venal to tribute was having problems pre patch, lots of ppl getting stuck etc.. well post patch things seem to have gotten much worse..
i think F-E will support the assessment if you wanna check here for pershphanie's assessment of the area
Yep. The game is pretty much unplayable in all of tribute and some parts of venal and vale. |

Xrak
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Posted - 2005.12.21 05:18:00 -
[1492]
So basically josh, put a big blob over the north, under the claim of the LA (Lag alliance).
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Goberth Ludwig
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Posted - 2005.12.21 09:25:00 -
[1493]
Theres no Iron left down south, only a few G.
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Archangel Deck
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Posted - 2005.12.21 11:00:00 -
[1494]
Yes IRON and G have left the southern regions for the time being _____________________________
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Orc A
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Posted - 2005.12.21 11:09:00 -
[1495]
Confirmation from SA: No SA in the northern regions what so ever anymore.
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shivan
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Posted - 2005.12.21 11:11:00 -
[1496]
link is borked 
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DjDangle
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Posted - 2005.12.21 11:56:00 -
[1497]
Originally by: pershphanie
Originally by: thoth foc Edited by: thoth foc on 21/12/2005 01:27:10
Originally by: Joshua Foiritain
Originally by: thoth foc as for scouting the area, well it kinna needs fixing by CCP b4 anything much can happen..
Fix what exactly?
5->10 minute delays on doing anything in a couple of the systems.. jumping, aligning warping activating modules... u get the idea.. i didnt even bother logging in today cuz when i got on ts, i heard about alot of us were experiencing CTD's every time they tried to do anything in certain places.. most ops were just cancelled this evening, due to lack of confidence in servers about here..
1 of the main routes from venal to tribute was having problems pre patch, lots of ppl getting stuck etc.. well post patch things seem to have gotten much worse..
i think F-E will support the assessment if you wanna check here for pershphanie's assessment of the area
Yep. The game is pretty much unplayable in all of tribute and some parts of venal and vale.
Maybe a warzone marker is needed for F.E vs. CCP servers? ------------
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thoth foc
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Posted - 2005.12.21 12:00:00 -
[1498]
Originally by: DjDangle
Maybe a warzone marker is needed for F.E vs. CCP servers?
[.5.] + F-E v CCP 
--thoth [5], ex-Curse Alliance ex-DSMA |

Talyn Draco
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Posted - 2005.12.21 17:02:00 -
[1499]
number 10 should actually read BOB/XELAS v. VC,FA and celset,serp -----------------------
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dabster
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Posted - 2005.12.21 17:09:00 -
[1500]
Edited by: dabster on 21/12/2005 17:09:46 More accurate would be to remove Fountain as claimed region. Make it 'contested region', and call the warzone marker Xelas vs Fountain locals. Bob shouldnt be mentioned at all as they havent been in the region for several weeks, they're up north mainly. ___________________________ Chicks dig Brutor's |
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DB Preacher
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Posted - 2005.12.21 17:18:00 -
[1501]
Edited by: DB Preacher on 21/12/2005 17:24:33 BoB controls fountain.
Since the hostiles aggressing in Fountain do not have the means to control it, it is not being contested.
If we see a change in that, we will return to defend the area and clear out any pirate infestation.
A warzone in our space is still the most accurate marker for the moment.
Thanks, dbp
Current RKK Ranking: (CAL6) Tanto
Drop by and say hi in Reikoku Forums.
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dabster
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Posted - 2005.12.21 17:25:00 -
[1502]
Dear Db, try to leave your normal arrogance out of this topic ok?
The purpose of the map is to show the community who lives where and controls what. To say Bob controls Fountain is plain lies and you know it. Xelas knows it, FA and VC knows it, and Celes knows it. The point that you call me random smacktalker shows exactly how completly NULL your presence in Fountain has been for the past month+. Celes alone is probably the largest entity - in regards to numbers in space - that has inhabitated Fountain since Bob moved north.
If you insist on outright lying then I really must say you hit a new low.
NO other entity than BOB has laid any claim to Fountain ever since the FA of old shattered. BOB no longer controls the region and as such, the region should be marked contested or neutral, on the MAP informing the community of how things are going there. ___________________________ Chicks dig Brutor's |

DB Preacher
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Posted - 2005.12.21 17:27:00 -
[1503]
Please be sure to read the rules above and keep any smak and flames out of the map thread.
A return to the past map threads is not welcome.
thanks, dbp
Current RKK Ranking: (CAL6) Tanto
Drop by and say hi in Reikoku Forums.
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dabster
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Posted - 2005.12.21 17:30:00 -
[1504]
gj editing. ___________________________ Chicks dig Brutor's |

DB Preacher
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Posted - 2005.12.21 17:31:00 -
[1505]
Edited by: DB Preacher on 21/12/2005 17:31:35
Originally by: dabster gj editing.
Yes apologies, I thought you stated "xelas vs fountain", not "xelas vs fountain locals". I edited my post accordingly.
dbp
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dabster
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Posted - 2005.12.21 17:38:00 -
[1506]
I retract my statement that Fountain should be marked contested, on the grounds that no current entity there has laid official claims to it.
Fountain should be marked un-claimed, on the grounds that the currently claiming alliance does not live there.
Offtopic: with the exception of "gj editing", not in 1 post did i sidestep the rules. I am informing the map-maker of current status, no less no more. ___________________________ Chicks dig Brutor's |

DB Preacher
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Posted - 2005.12.21 17:58:00 -
[1507]
BoB has laid official claims to it, hence why it is under our control.
BoB lives there but are merely on a short road trip as previously stated.
Again, just to reiterate, if we feel Fountain is under threat by anything other than a small pirate invasion, we will return.
This will be my final post on the matter and as feel I have stated our position rather firmly.
thanks, dbp
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darth solo
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Posted - 2005.12.21 18:35:00 -
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Fountain is mine.
d solo.
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Malken
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Posted - 2005.12.21 18:57:00 -
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Originally by: darth solo Fountain is mine.
d solo.
see Db, Darth is in Fountain and says he claims it thus he controls it as there havent been any bob there for a month+
you have to be in the area and be in control of it to claim it as yours on the maps. if you cannot do that then your claim is null and void Db. xelas keeps running and docking at the mere hearsay of Celest pilots in fountain. that sounds like Celes are in power of the fountain area and not bob who havent been seen there for a long time at all.
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Hoshi
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Posted - 2005.12.21 19:10:00 -
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Some time ago there was a discussion here about what it takes to contest a region, maybe we need one about what it takes to claim one in the first place. I don't know about the situation in Fountain so I won't comment about it but I do know about the situation is curse and to have it marked as claimed by .5. is ridiculous to say the least.
As it seems now the only thing you need to do to claim a region is to make a post here as a member of a large alliance. To have any kind of presence in or control of the area seems to be of no importance.
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TheJay
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Posted - 2005.12.22 00:05:00 -
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Actually, I lay claim to Fountain.
Its not yours Darth.
I base this claim on the amount of ISK I've earnt from shooting the NPC's, and how quickly I can make Xelas dock (I log on, and they all just run and hide)
Get 30+ pilots to come up to YZ-LQL dbp, and we'll see who controls Fountain.
Can I get an amen?
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Alasse Cuthalion
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Posted - 2005.12.22 00:21:00 -
[1512]
Originally by: TheJay
Get 30+ pilots to come up to YZ-LQL dbp, and we'll see who controls Fountain.
O RLY?
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Dianabolic
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Posted - 2005.12.22 00:25:00 -
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Originally by: TheJay Get 30+ pilots to come up to YZ-LQL dbp, and we'll see who controls Fountain.
Do you have a preferred time of day for this, or can we do it for all 3 of our timezones?
Originally by: Thomas Jefferson A society that will trade a little liberty for a little security will lose both and deserve neither.
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Blacklight
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Posted - 2005.12.22 00:27:00 -
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Edited by: Blacklight on 22/12/2005 00:27:43
Originally by: TheJay Get 30+ pilots to come up to YZ-LQL dbp, and we'll see who controls Fountain.
If we turn up with 30 pilots you'd all dock, safespot or log because last time you didn't you got so royally owned you now only come out when the coast is clear and we're not at home.
Don't make promises you don't have the co.jones to keep.
We'll be back soon enough and I will quote this post at you every single time you fail to engage when we have 30+ pilots.
Eve Blacklight Style
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TheJay
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Posted - 2005.12.22 00:35:00 -
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Originally by: Blacklight Edited by: Blacklight on 22/12/2005 00:27:43
Originally by: TheJay Get 30+ pilots to come up to YZ-LQL dbp, and we'll see who controls Fountain.
If we turn up with 30 pilots you'd all dock, safespot or log because last time you didn't you got so royally owned you now only come out when the coast is clear and we're not at home.
Don't make promises you don't have the co.jones to keep.
We'll be back soon enough and I will quote this post at you every single time you fail to engage when we have 30+ pilots.
Gonna get me on semantics? 
I should edit it and put "a decent number of ships" . Showing up would be nice, because Xelas seriously suck - seriously, why are these people your allies? 
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TheJay
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Posted - 2005.12.22 00:36:00 -
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Originally by: Dianabolic
Originally by: TheJay Get 30+ pilots to come up to YZ-LQL dbp, and we'll see who controls Fountain.
Do you have a preferred time of day for this, or can we do it for all 3 of our timezones?
European timezone would be best I should think.
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TWD
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Posted - 2005.12.22 00:41:00 -
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Edited by: TWD on 22/12/2005 00:43:27
Originally by: TheJay
I should edit it and put "a decent number of ships" . Showing up would be nice, because Xelas seriously suck - seriously, why are these people your allies? 
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Alasse Cuthalion
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Posted - 2005.12.22 00:49:00 -
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Edited by: Alasse Cuthalion on 22/12/2005 00:48:58
Originally by: TheJay
Originally by: Blacklight Edited by: Blacklight on 22/12/2005 00:27:43
Originally by: TheJay Get 30+ pilots to come up to YZ-LQL dbp, and we'll see who controls Fountain.
If we turn up with 30 pilots you'd all dock, safespot or log because last time you didn't you got so royally owned you now only come out when the coast is clear and we're not at home.
Don't make promises you don't have the co.jones to keep.
We'll be back soon enough and I will quote this post at you every single time you fail to engage when we have 30+ pilots.
Gonna get me on semantics? 
I should edit it and put "a decent number of ships" . Showing up would be nice, because Xelas seriously suck - seriously, why are these people your allies? 
Because they suck a lot less than you do, now quit it with the trolling nublet.
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Rajon Kelper
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Posted - 2005.12.22 01:16:00 -
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I'd like to point out that [5] claims to not claim any space, and is currently residing in an NPC station.
I cant see how this could make Venal considered 'contested space', but I guess if you consider occupation for tactical location as permanent residence, then yes, the map is accurate. 
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DB Preacher
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Posted - 2005.12.22 03:06:00 -
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Originally by: TheJay Get 30+ pilots to come up to YZ-LQL dbp, and we'll see who controls Fountain.
/me shrugs
Last time I did that and we actually got a fleet battle, we killed 14 BS and 9 support for the loss of 2 wolf's and 2 t1 frigs after we jumped into your camp and bubbles.
Forgive me if I am not particularily worried about a return trip.
dbp
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Malken
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Posted - 2005.12.22 06:06:00 -
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Originally by: DB Preacher
Originally by: TheJay Get 30+ pilots to come up to YZ-LQL dbp, and we'll see who controls Fountain.
/me shrugs
Last time I did that and we actually got a fleet battle, we killed 14 BS and 9 support for the loss of 2 wolf's and 2 t1 frigs after we jumped into your camp and bubbles.
Forgive me if I am not particularily worried about a return trip.
dbp
so that means you dont want to come back and defend the space you so to say lay claim to. if so your claim is null and void.
can the mapmaker put a "here be Darth Land" on Fountain region pls.
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DB Preacher
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Posted - 2005.12.22 07:05:00 -
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*sigh*
read my posts on page 1, specifically the last one.
GG
dbp
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Malken
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Posted - 2005.12.22 07:46:00 -
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Originally by: DB Preacher *sigh*
read my posts on page 1, specifically the last one.
GG
dbp
i did and i saw the ramblings of yesteryear, if you want to claim the space you will need to have to be the dominat force every day and not one day every 6 months. your claim is null and void. its Darth Land now
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DB Preacher
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Posted - 2005.12.22 08:05:00 -
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Last Celest Apoc loss in Fountain was Alvaron on 01-12-2005.
Roadtrip ftw.
Thanks. dbp
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Puncher
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Posted - 2005.12.22 08:05:00 -
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@Celes
You guys are wasting your words here, Joshua is dpb's little lapdog or alt. He was in Fountain recently (just prior to this update), he witnessed the complete lack of BoB presence, he witnessed us camping Xelas in their station in A-1, and yet makes no change to the region. Oh well, Xelas has come apart at the seams with the departure of 20th (the only real combatants in Xelas) and now SMK (put up a pretty good fight) - so we camp the remaining carebears in A-1 and we know who controls Fountain; this map means nothing to anyone save the forum *****s.
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Cpt Pugwash
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Posted - 2005.12.22 08:29:00 -
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Bob have never controlled fountain, they are more like a bunch of pirates that come in for a few cheap ganks from time to time.
They stopped doing even that some weeks ago yet they are still marked as controlling the region.
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Malken
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Posted - 2005.12.22 08:37:00 -
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maybe its time for joshua to step down from the mapmaker post then if he is indeed biased as you say.
but no bob everyday in control of fountain = no bob claim.
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DB Preacher
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Posted - 2005.12.22 08:44:00 -
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Don't worry boys, I know you miss us but we'll be back before you know it.
I hope your whining on this thread is justified by actions ingame when we return.
dbp
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Jonkai
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Posted - 2005.12.22 09:35:00 -
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Edited by: Jonkai on 22/12/2005 09:45:55 Link doesn't work :/
DBP How can you claim a region when you are never there?
Blacklight: 
Edit... o yeah "roadtrip ftw" 
Happy Christmas everyone!
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Dell
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Posted - 2005.12.22 10:21:00 -
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every time the map is updated we get the same wannabes *****ing about fountain. Bob doesnt own it, change the map maker cry cry cry Celestial you are a 58 member corp, that isnt bigger enough to claim any region.
BoB Killboard
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Jonkai
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Posted - 2005.12.22 10:31:00 -
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Edited by: Jonkai on 22/12/2005 10:31:16 Believers of your own hypocrisy 
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Malken
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Posted - 2005.12.22 11:34:00 -
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Originally by: Dell every time the map is updated we get the same wannabes *****ing about fountain. Bob doesnt own it, change the map maker cry cry cry Celestial you are a 58 member corp, that isnt bigger enough to claim any region.
well bob alliance is 0 members in fountain celestial apoc is 58members in fountain
who has most control? my guess is those that inhabit the area and has kicked xelas black&blue daily.
and Db, stop foaming around the mouth it doesnt look good. you cant claim it as you are not there and have not been there in months. to claim a area you need to have control of the area. bob do not have any control over fountain space and their lapdogs xelas dock and run at the first sight of a celest member.
id say that that constitutes celest control over fountain area.
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Quarantine
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Posted - 2005.12.22 11:39:00 -
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Originally by: Goberth Ludwig Theres no Iron left down south, only a few G.
Confirmed, the warzone marker #4 can be removed. Additionally, western Stain Regions seem to be hardly claimed by SA, they are home to various corps and allies and probably deserve a Pirate Infestation marker or something to represent that.
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Sister 9
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Posted - 2005.12.22 11:40:00 -
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Originally by: Puncher this map means nothing to anyone save the forum *****s.
we don't need pointing out the obvious, i thought this was the forum warrior map.  |

DB Preacher
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Posted - 2005.12.22 11:44:00 -
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Yawn malken.
You stated your alt point, stop spamming and trolling now.
thanks, dbp
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Masu'di
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Posted - 2005.12.22 11:58:00 -
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Originally by: Malken maybe its time for joshua to step down from the mapmaker post then if he is indeed biased as you say.
but no bob everyday in control of fountain = no bob claim.
Joshua does make nice looking maps, and i don't think anyone else could do a better job. Maps by there very nature are biased, you'll never find a map maker that is not.
I think a look at Joshua's ingame npc standings reveals the two regions, where the natural bias is most likely to be ... This is not to say that Curse are Fountain are necessarily inacurate, just this is where the map maker has the most vested interest.
If you are looking for a rough idea of what's happening in 0.0, then Joshua's map is very good, but like all maps its important to not put too much authority on them, and to recognise that a map maker can never be truly objective. |

Malken
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Posted - 2005.12.22 12:21:00 -
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Originally by: DB Preacher Yawn malken.
You stated your alt point, stop spamming and trolling now.
thanks, dbp
its not trolling, it is facts presented to the public and to the mapmaker. infact its more like you are trolling and trying to influence people of a fantasy version of soverenity over fountain region. you are not there and havent been in a long while so you cannot claim it period. celest is there and is claiming it as per darths post. there is no faction in fountain to dispute his claim so he is correct when he says it is Darth Land now.
now go troll and spread fantasies about bob in another thread Db, you have nothing else to add to this thread.
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Renox
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Posted - 2005.12.22 12:49:00 -
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Originally by: DB Preacher Yawn malken.
You stated your alt point, stop spamming and trolling now.
thanks, dbp
really not part of the map discussion which I really don't care about, but I like Malken and he is no alt. Check up on him and you'll see. Call him a forum ***** if you wish, that is much more fitting then alt. ;)
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Vince Draken
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Posted - 2005.12.22 12:49:00 -
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Originally by: Malken
Originally by: DB Preacher Yawn malken.
You stated your alt point, stop spamming and trolling now.
thanks, dbp
its not trolling, it is facts presented to the public and to the mapmaker. infact its more like you are trolling and trying to influence people of a fantasy version of soverenity over fountain region. you are not there and havent been in a long while so you cannot claim it period. celest is there and is claiming it as per darths post. there is no faction in fountain to dispute his claim so he is correct when he says it is Darth Land now.
now go troll and spread fantasies about bob in another thread Db, you have nothing else to add to this thread.
You are not in any of the corporations involved. You need to STFU. Stick to trying to gank noobs in a .4 system, k?
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Tiwaz
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Posted - 2005.12.22 13:42:00 -
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Malken is a firm (altho mislead) friend. I would hate to see him leave our treads.
Fountain is boring and not much happens here. Any1 who wanna make some good isk, should go there and start ratting.
Dont worry about xelas(docked) and us, imo neutrals are free to do what they want.
tiwaz
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DB Preacher
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Posted - 2005.12.22 14:53:00 -
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Celest are turning into the Burn Eden of 2006.
Please, get some more of your members and friends to troll the map thread, it's really constructive.
Considering your corp doesn't have the member base nor the balls to hold any space, I have no clue why you are whining in here.
It's going to be hilarious watching you guys turn tail and run to empire soon.
dbp
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Dianabolic
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Posted - 2005.12.22 14:59:00 -
[1542]
Originally by: TheJay
Originally by: Dianabolic
Originally by: TheJay Get 30+ pilots to come up to YZ-LQL dbp, and we'll see who controls Fountain.
Do you have a preferred time of day for this, or can we do it for all 3 of our timezones?
European timezone would be best I should think.
So you can't take us on in 2 of the 3 other timezones, glad to have that one worked out - and your guys are claiming that they contest or control fountain?
Yeah, righto.
Once again Fountain becomes the central issue in the map thread, despite us just disagreeing with someone claiming it to be contested, thus followed by pages of "omg you don't control it" and flames, to which we respond to.
Grow the hell up, all of you.
We'll be seeing you in the euro timezone really soon, thejay.
Originally by: Thomas Jefferson A society that will trade a little liberty for a little security will lose both and deserve neither.
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Raid
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Posted - 2005.12.22 15:06:00 -
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Originally by: Quarantine western Stain Regions seem to be hardly claimed by SA, they are home to various corps and allies and probably deserve a Pirate Infestation marker or something to represent that.
Theres corps living in every NPC region. Western stain is no different. If an infestation marker is waranted in this case then it should go on every NPC region because their all infested. SA is the only large organized force in that area. Unless some of those corps put together some sort of alliance and lay claim to that end of stain, there should be no changes. -----------------------
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TheJay
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Posted - 2005.12.22 15:42:00 -
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Originally by: Dianabolic
Originally by: TheJay
Originally by: Dianabolic
Originally by: TheJay Get 30+ pilots to come up to YZ-LQL dbp, and we'll see who controls Fountain.
Do you have a preferred time of day for this, or can we do it for all 3 of our timezones?
European timezone would be best I should think.
So you can't take us on in 2 of the 3 other timezones, glad to have that one worked out - and your guys are claiming that they contest or control fountain?
Yeah, righto.
Once again Fountain becomes the central issue in the map thread, despite us just disagreeing with someone claiming it to be contested, thus followed by pages of "omg you don't control it" and flames, to which we respond to.
Grow the hell up, all of you.
We'll be seeing you in the euro timezone really soon, thejay.
Groovy. I'll try and find time from my social life to log in for you
Obviously you'll now take this as I'm chicken ****, or something. I really do have a life that comes before EVE, sorry
But yes, see you soooon.
Lots of lubs
TJ
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darth solo
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Posted - 2005.12.22 15:54:00 -
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CANT NONE OF YOU READ...
FOUNTAIN IS MINE.
DARTH IS EVE.
aye.
d solo.
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Tiwaz
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Posted - 2005.12.22 15:57:00 -
[1546]
Edited by: Tiwaz on 22/12/2005 15:58:20
Originally by: DB Preacher Celest are turning into the Burn Eden of 2006.
Please, get some more of your members and friends to troll the map thread, it's really constructive.
Considering your corp doesn't have the member base nor the balls to hold any space, I have no clue why you are whining in here.
It's going to be hilarious watching you guys turn tail and run to empire soon.
dbp
we dont care for holding space and you know it. This tread was about bob claiming space they dont control. You might control it when ur here in force, but atm you arent.
Any1 who dont agree with you Preacher, is aparently a troll/forumwarrior/alt. tbh i see you posting here on these boards like there where no tommorrow, so whos the troll/alt/forumwarrior i ask?.
EVE politics is for geeks, and as far as i can tell you fit right into that catagori.
pff! grown men playing a game.
tiwaz
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Malken
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Posted - 2005.12.22 16:04:00 -
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fact still reamins, no daily force to control/inhabit the area=no claim.
remove bob marker from fountain space.
if not you can add my name to every region in eve as i claim them if that is so the severenity game is played. except for fountain as that is now Darth Land with fun sheep rides that only cost 2 trit an hour to ride.
you really need to get a life Db.
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Abdalion

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Posted - 2005.12.22 16:26:00 -
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Locked for cleanup.
Stop trolling, berating, and insinuating. ---
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Abdalion

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Posted - 2005.12.22 17:42:00 -
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Originally by: Tiwaz This tread was about bob claiming space they dont control.
This thread is a community resource, subject to the rules in the sticky.
It is not for arguments between corporations and factions. There are other places for that.
Please stick to the topic, or don't post. Read the Stickies for the rules.
Thread reopened. ---
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pershphanie
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Posted - 2005.12.22 23:13:00 -
[1550]
Edited by: pershphanie on 22/12/2005 23:14:36 Again. There is no SA, -V-, or .5. in tribute. Only atuk. SA confermed they are not there. The5 confermed it. We are now at + standings with -v-. Saying SA,-V-, and the5 have a warzone in tribute is misleading. |
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Cmd Woodlouse
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Posted - 2005.12.22 23:21:00 -
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Originally by: Goberth Ludwig Theres no Iron left down south, only a few G.
jupp, thats correct. josh u can remove the warzone in ascn space, we finally made it out of the south under horrible lag. Finally... 
-G- Pink Power
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Joshua Foiritain
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Posted - 2005.12.23 00:24:00 -
[1552]
Originally by: pershphanie Again. There is no SA, -V-, or .5. in tribute. Only atuk. SA confermed they are not there. The5 confermed it. We are now at + standings with -v-. Saying SA,-V-, and the5 have a warzone in tribute is misleading.
Gah, will edit it right now otherwise itll just slip again. ------------------
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Vince Draken
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Posted - 2005.12.23 02:29:00 -
[1553]
Fyi, Delta Team (5) is there as well.
But, awalance can speak for that better than I.
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Amthrianius
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Posted - 2005.12.23 09:10:00 -
[1554]
If ATUK are there persh, it is [5] that are there as we are part of [5]
Unless we want to go corp by corp of people? I mean would could say FE arent in tribute only FE - MLM.  ---------------
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Edoo
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Posted - 2005.12.23 16:21:00 -
[1555]
Originally by: Amthrianius If ATUK are there persh, it is [5] that are there as we are part of [5]
Unless we want to go corp by corp of people? I mean would could say FE arent in tribute only FE - MLM. 
Lol a strange tactic you have of praising an individual corp in an alliance. Psycological warfare i guess. Merry Christmas.
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Heritor
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Posted - 2005.12.23 16:37:00 -
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Who are these pirates you talk about at location 1 in PB ???
I have been resident there a long time and not many pirates come thru that way only northern aliances sitting on gate to torrinos 
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pershphanie
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Posted - 2005.12.23 19:39:00 -
[1557]
Originally by: Amthrianius blah blah blah
Jezzz. You guys just had several threads flaming FE saying we werent fighting the5 only auk. Now when I say that I get flamed? Sometimes I think you guys just like to disagree with me for the sake of starting an arguement. If I wanted to do that I'd stop ignoring my girlfriend.
Whatever you guys say Fine. The warzone in tribute should be the5 vs fe. There is no SA or -V- there. |

hired goon
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Posted - 2005.12.23 20:21:00 -
[1558]
Originally by: Heritor Who are these pirates you talk about at location 1 in PB ???
I have been resident there a long time and not many pirates come thru that way only northern aliances sitting on gate to torrinos 
I have to agree with my noble but slightly annoying enemy here. 'pirate infestation' is much much too harsh for Pure Blind. Maybe take off the word 'infestation' and it would be more accurate. -omg-
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Xeriuz
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Posted - 2005.12.24 00:39:00 -
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Domain 1. ? the region is most .5 and higher the .4 and lower, kinda hard to be pirate infestation dont you think, but thats just me
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Amerame
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Posted - 2005.12.27 04:36:00 -
[1560]
Curse should no longer be contested between .5. and RA. .5. Left this area weeks ago, and only a few NPCers are left. There are lots of squimirshes in curse between the various factions in the area, but no major battles. In my opinion Curse should be considered as RA territory and a battlefield with -V-, .5., LV & co
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Rajof
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Posted - 2005.12.28 00:08:00 -
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Originally by: Amerame Curse should no longer be contested between .5. and RA. .5. Left this area weeks ago, and only a few NPCers are left. There are lots of squimirshes in curse between the various factions in the area, but no major battles. In my opinion Curse should be considered as RA territory and a battlefield with -V-, .5., LV & co
I'd say Tyrell hold it most of the time, with the odd RA incursion but then again i only see late euro timezones. ---|||--- A Saint till I Die |

Angry Dan
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Posted - 2005.12.28 00:17:00 -
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Originally by: Xeriuz Domain 1. ? the region is most .5 and higher the .4 and lower, kinda hard to be pirate infestation dont you think, but thats just me
Theres regualr fighting between the local allainces and pirates in the lower sec areas of domain, IE the routes from Hibi & Mista (0.5 systems) down to Misaba (0.1) and R3-K7K (0.0). It's nothing like the death trap that syndicate and the north lonetrek are like, but the fighting is regular and heavy.
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Amerame
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Posted - 2005.12.28 00:40:00 -
[1563]
Originally by: Rajof
Originally by: Amerame Curse should no longer be contested between .5. and RA. .5. Left this area weeks ago, and only a few NPCers are left. There are lots of squimirshes in curse between the various factions in the area, but no major battles. In my opinion Curse should be considered as RA territory and a battlefield with -V-, .5., LV & co
I'd say Tyrell hold it most of the time, with the odd RA incursion but then again i only see late euro timezones.
Tyrell sometimes camp Doril that's all, they're pretty much never to be seen inside curse.
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Kaiser
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Posted - 2005.12.28 13:53:00 -
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I don't understand why all space must be "assigned". In my experience, some of the space you assign as contested/claimed is a desert.
My suggestion to the author based on my knowledge: 1) Stain region is actually no-man land. Have been there last 2 months and see some Vertigo, some SE, SA, ASCN, COSMIC, TRS and so on. None controls the region nor try to control. I would put the whole Stain region as unclaimed. 2) Fountain: all space north of yz-lql is unassigned as well...no pos, none mining, none around. Near Aridia there's actually only VC, but it's not cliamed either.
For the rest good work.
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Raid
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Posted - 2005.12.28 19:40:00 -
[1565]
Originally by: Amerame
Originally by: Rajof
Originally by: Amerame Curse should no longer be contested between .5. and RA. .5. Left this area weeks ago, and only a few NPCers are left. There are lots of squimirshes in curse between the various factions in the area, but no major battles. In my opinion Curse should be considered as RA territory and a battlefield with -V-, .5., LV & co
I'd say Tyrell hold it most of the time, with the odd RA incursion but then again i only see late euro timezones.
Tyrell sometimes camp Doril that's all, they're pretty much never to be seen inside curse.
We dont "sometimes" camp doril. If you pass through doril without instas and in anything less than a fleet, expect to get killed.
We have always lived in curse, for you to say you dont see us inside of curse is an outright lie, or proof that you yourself dont live in curse.
There are more non-RA pilots inside of curse then there are RA pilots.. that is a FACT! No one has outright control of the curse region.
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Amerame
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Posted - 2005.12.29 00:52:00 -
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RA might not be in majority in curse, but it's the largest faction there. Though I do not know in which curse you're living, but there is no military activity to speak of Tyrell past Doril.
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Archonon
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Posted - 2005.12.29 00:57:00 -
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Originally by: Raid
We dont "sometimes" camp doril. If you pass through doril without instas and in anything less than a fleet, expect to get killed.
Of course it's a chokepoint !
Quote:
There are more non-RA pilots inside of curse then there are RA pilots.. that is a FACT! No one has outright control of the curse region.
Having more pilot doesn't mean u've got the control, Curse is contested region noone have got the full control. All u can say is some constellations are under RA control others under non-faction control but no active defence from those non-factions expect the doril chokepoint mainly hold by TYC. _______________________ Lokan > fire Lokan > what's up with section 13? Lokan > they flaming us on the forums
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Raid
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Posted - 2005.12.29 03:35:00 -
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you said it yourself here:
Originally by: Amerame In my opinion Curse should be considered as RA territory and a battlefield with -V-, .5., LV & co
Originally by: Archonon
Having more pilot doesn't mean u've got the control, Curse is contested region noone have got the full control. All u can say is some constellations are under RA control others under non-faction control but no active defence from those non-factions expect the doril chokepoint mainly hold by TYC.
Conflicting views from you guys. What we can agree on im sure is that RA does not control curse. Saying you guys control it is VERY misleading. Though, by the same logic saying the .5. currently control it is also misleading.
If you will agree on this then i suggest removing all control over curse region and placing a war marker on the region between various forces. Until a single faction can live and control the region it should not be under anyones control. -----------------------
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Velsharoon
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Posted - 2005.12.30 00:04:00 -
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Curse is a no mans land no one can claim it, to many npc stations. Tyrell chap is overstating the doril thing but similary the RA chap is overstating his side. Anyone who is anyone lives in Curse :D
Lets all be happy and call it a warzone between eleventy one factions
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Zubenelgenubi
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Posted - 2006.01.01 03:55:00 -
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i hope this post this came from is really old .
im to ****ed to ook..::
1) Stain region is actually no-man land. Have been there last 2 months and see some Vertigo, some SE, SA, ASCN, COSMIC, TRS and so on. None controls the region nor try to control. I would put the whole Stain region as unclaimed
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Spartan239
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Posted - 2006.01.01 14:39:00 -
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Cosmic Fusion's space is currently uncontested
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Blitz0r
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Posted - 2006.01.03 16:23:00 -
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How about a update?
Long time has passed since the last one.
Curse is a "warzone" not claimed by anyone atm, i know i can fly there safely, except some XIII once in a while doing raides for 30 minutes.
Cheers!
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Shinnen
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Posted - 2006.01.03 18:44:00 -
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Warzones - V - vs RA on the GW borders. systems such as N-RAEL etc. ---
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Raid
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Posted - 2006.01.03 20:32:00 -
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Edited by: Raid on 03/01/2006 20:32:36 Curse should be unclaimed space with warmarker reading CC/CHIMP/LV vs RA. VIRRI should be removed from the warmarker as they are not a big factor these days. -----------------------
The Canadian got in a store and said to the seller: - I'm a Canadian and I can kill you! - Can what? - Canadian! |

Archonon
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Posted - 2006.01.03 22:22:00 -
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Originally by: Raid Edited by: Raid on 03/01/2006 20:32:36 Curse should be unclaimed space with warmarker reading CC/CHIMP/LV vs RA. VIRRI should be removed from the warmarker as they are not a big factor these days.
Atm RA can fly without siginficant resistance accross Curse, CC/CHIMP & others npcers seemes not to be able to undock. But josh knows very well the situation in Curse since he's back near us  _______________________ Lokan > fire Lokan > what's up with section 13? Lokan > they flaming us on the forums
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Paul Castrin
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Posted - 2006.01.03 23:33:00 -
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Originally by: DB Preacher BoB has laid official claims to it, hence why it is under our control.
With due respect DBP, claiming and controlling are two very different things (thus why they have different definitions in a dictionary) ... well except maybe where the map maker is concerned.
But then we are ok with that. We generally view it as a 100% waste of time to discuss Fountain here thus why you will not get much of anything but agreement from us.
*This is not the alliance you are looking for ...* *You may go about your vacation ...*
IMHO to control a thing you 1)live there constantly (or some what regularly), 2)build up the area and, 3)patrol and make the area "safe" for other alliance members.
Who is doing what in Fountain I leave to the general player base to determine. I just wanted to point out that some have a different view of what it means to 'control' a region (regardless of what a player created map says).
Originally by: DB Preacher Again, just to reiterate, if we feel Fountain is under threat by anything other than a small pirate invasion, we will return.
When you do please just don't blob, k? Blobs suck.
Much more fun when you get lag free engagements.
Peace.
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Raid
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Posted - 2006.01.03 23:52:00 -
[1577]
Edited by: Raid on 03/01/2006 23:54:39
Originally by: Archonon
Originally by: Raid Edited by: Raid on 03/01/2006 20:32:36 Curse should be unclaimed space with warmarker reading CC/CHIMP/LV vs RA. VIRRI should be removed from the warmarker as they are not a big factor these days.
Atm RA can fly without siginficant resistance accross Curse, CC/CHIMP & others npcers seemes not to be able to undock. But josh knows very well the situation in Curse since he's back near us 
Im confused are you disagreeing with what im saying or agreeing? Please feel free to tell us how you think curse should be represented on the map.
Edit: just to add... everyone can fly through curse with little resistance atm... its a wide open region. -----------------------
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Shinnen
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Posted - 2006.01.04 12:54:00 -
[1578]
Originally by: Archonon
Originally by: Raid Edited by: Raid on 03/01/2006 20:32:36 Curse should be unclaimed space with warmarker reading CC/CHIMP/LV vs RA. VIRRI should be removed from the warmarker as they are not a big factor these days.
Atm RA can fly without siginficant resistance accross Curse, CC/CHIMP & others npcers seemes not to be able to undock. But josh knows very well the situation in Curse since he's back near us 
Agreed, curse is pretty quiet sometimes. ---
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pershphanie
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Posted - 2006.01.04 13:03:00 -
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Edited by: pershphanie on 04/01/2006 13:04:07
once again. I'd ask that you take off the war vs SA and -V- in tribute marker. It is not at all accurate. All sides have confirmed this. If you have any questions about it feel free to eve mail me.
there are no SA or -V- attacking tribute. not a smaller amount, not less frequently, none at all. And there hasnt been for almost 2 months. |

Shin Ra
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Posted - 2006.01.04 22:16:00 -
[1580]
This is whats really going on in the curse region:
There are no 5 in curse worth mentioning.
Some of that Loka.... whatever alliance pass thru from time to time.
Curse is home to a variety of smaller corps who npc hunt in one or two systems each. Called Curse Locals.
Curse is also home to a variety of pirate corps.
RA have a presence in Curse, often taking trips to Doril with ganksquads and with ppl living in deeper areas of Curse.
Chimp have a lot of ppl, usually around p04f, again they move around in groups doing stuff.
Tyrell camp Doril, and sometimes move around, although not as much as RA or Chimp.
So its pretty much open space (nobody is trying to claim it), with the following factions present: RA/Chimp/CC(tyrell corp)/Curse Locals/pirates
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Seleene
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Posted - 2006.01.05 07:07:00 -
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Josh, on behalf of the MC and our resident designer, Mon Palae [BDCI], we present to you a token of our respect and appreciation for all the hard work you put into this community resource:
We hope you like it and keep up the outstanding work.  -
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Joshua Foiritain
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Posted - 2006.01.05 11:58:00 -
[1582]
Rawr Seleene, thanks a lot 
Originally by: pershphanie once again. I'd ask that you take off the war vs SA and -V- in tribute marker. It is not at all accurate. All sides have confirmed this. If you have any questions about it feel free to eve mail me.
there are no SA or -V- attacking tribute. not a smaller amount, not less frequently, none at all. And there hasnt been for almost 2 months.
I could have sworn i removed it in the last update, oddness. Its gone now though 
Originally by: Shin Ra This is whats really going on in the curse region:
There are no 5 in curse worth mentioning.
Some of that Loka.... whatever alliance pass thru from time to time.
Curse is home to a variety of smaller corps who npc hunt in one or two systems each. Called Curse Locals.
Curse is also home to a variety of pirate corps.
RA have a presence in Curse, often taking trips to Doril with ganksquads and with ppl living in deeper areas of Curse.
Chimp have a lot of ppl, usually around p04f, again they move around in groups doing stuff.
Tyrell camp Doril, and sometimes move around, although not as much as RA or Chimp.
So its pretty much open space (nobody is trying to claim it), with the following factions present: RA/Chimp/CC(tyrell corp)/Curse Locals/pirates
True theres not a whole lot of fives there at the moment, theres quite a few sponsored allied corps of the five there though. I talked to CC who currently do not wish to claim curse, they are fighting the red alliance and are allied with the five though. The region will still be marked as contested between the five and friends vs RA since neither party is really in control, CC has doril locked down most of the time and lives closer to the back of curse, Section XIII has a gank squad running trough the region and then theres piles of neutrals in every single corner of the region and an occasional Viri camp in Utopia.
Anyhows, id like to hear some comments about Outer Ring, Venal and Branch as i currently do not have the time to fly down there myself and remember that the more neutral you sound the bigger the chances are i believe you  -------------
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Edoo
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Posted - 2006.01.05 15:27:00 -
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Branch - PA space, not even a warzone Venal - Warzone
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Amthrianius
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Posted - 2006.01.05 17:01:00 -
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Originally by: Edoo Branch - PA space, not even a warzone Venal - Warzone
To have a warzone, PA would have to fight for their region, they dont, we own it and let me tell you again
YOU ARE NBSI, YOU DONT SPEAK FOR PA. ---------------
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maxsuicide1
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Posted - 2006.01.05 17:33:00 -
[1585]
Originally by: Amthrianius
YOU ARE NBSI, YOU DONT SPEAK FOR PA.
he is in the warzone, why cant he?
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Darpz
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Posted - 2006.01.05 17:34:00 -
[1586]
your warzone marker for SA/huzzah vs Fix is misleading, it should be over Catch and Q
Originally by: TomB
Originally by: Darpz
Originally by: Sobeseki Pawi CCP will nerf this probably, but hey, worth a try 
so your saying I should of kept my mouth shut?
Yup.
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Creed Richards
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Posted - 2006.01.05 17:57:00 -
[1587]
Originally by: Darpz your warzone marker for SA/huzzah vs Fix is misleading, it should be over Catch and Q
Well, you only have our FAST station in V2, we destroyed your POS in 5-N and you have made no serious attempts to capture any of our stations in FIX space proper. So I believe the current map is accurate.
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Lord Hells
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Posted - 2006.01.05 18:20:00 -
[1588]
Edited by: Lord Hells on 05/01/2006 18:20:48 err wrong char.
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Darpz
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Posted - 2006.01.05 18:29:00 -
[1589]
Originally by: Creed Richards
Originally by: Darpz your warzone marker for SA/huzzah vs Fix is misleading, it should be over Catch and Q
Well, you only have our FAST station in V2, we destroyed your POS in 5-N and you have made no serious attempts to capture any of our stations in FIX space proper. So I believe the current map is accurate.
I'm not saying that the contested part is wrong i'm just stating showing that fighting is only happening in Catch in prolly not the best representation of current events
Originally by: TomB
Originally by: Darpz
Originally by: Sobeseki Pawi CCP will nerf this probably, but hey, worth a try 
so your saying I should of kept my mouth shut?
Yup.
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Laurelin1420

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Posted - 2006.01.05 20:47:00 -
[1590]
Thread cleaned following update :)
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hired goon
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Posted - 2006.01.05 22:44:00 -
[1591]
Once again I ask the 'pirate infestation' marker be removed from Pure Blind. There is no pirate infestation and as a regular traveller I should know. I ask any other residents to come forward in support of this (including Jericho Fraction and PLYT).
And if anyone has any reason why it should remain, please speak up also. -omg-
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Crucifier
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Posted - 2006.01.05 22:52:00 -
[1592]
Maybe its just me but shouldnt Catch be contested? And shouldnt Querious be contested to :/? |

Light Darkness
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Posted - 2006.01.05 23:26:00 -
[1593]
-V- have fun in Scalding and Insmother.
Ra and -V- get both fun in the JLO-C-J area.
Regards /LD
*-V-President* *-V-Fleet Command*
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Joshua Foiritain
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Posted - 2006.01.05 23:31:00 -
[1594]
Originally by: Light Darkness -V- have fun in Scalding and Insmother.
Ra and -V- get both fun in the JLO-C-J area.
Hmm forgot about that, will fix it in soon.
Originally by: Crucifier Maybe its just me but shouldnt Catch be contested? And shouldnt Querious be contested to :/?
SA holds 0 sov and 0 stations within Querious afaik.
Originally by: hired goon Once again I ask the 'pirate infestation' marker be removed from Pure Blind. There is no pirate infestation and as a regular traveller I should know. I ask any other residents to come forward in support of this (including Jericho Fraction and PLYT).
Noted. -------------
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Slender Brenda
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Posted - 2006.01.06 00:45:00 -
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No RISK fighting in branch --------------------------- George Bush "I believe the human being and fish can coexist peacefully" |

Effei Gloom
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Posted - 2006.01.06 02:39:00 -
[1596]
Commonwealth Alliance ticker: CCC
claiming part of northern CATCH region: JZV-06 Constellation + WLAR-J system
RNF-YH is contested space between CCC and IAC (Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate)
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netochka
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Posted - 2006.01.06 05:20:00 -
[1597]
Originally by: Crucifier Maybe its just me but shouldnt Catch be contested? And shouldnt Querious be contested to :/?
Why? To boost SA ego, querious isnt contested, SA can't even control there own space let alone take sumone else's, your a dieing alliance.
Don't waste bandwith k?
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Amthrianius
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Posted - 2006.01.06 07:10:00 -
[1598]
Originally by: maxsuicide1
Originally by: Amthrianius
YOU ARE NBSI, YOU DONT SPEAK FOR PA.
he is in the warzone, why cant he?
He came to venal once and kept indocking and redocking in an ishkur. Havent seen him since and kb shows he is in empire, not venal. ---------------
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Puncher
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Posted - 2006.01.06 09:13:00 -
[1599]
Why are 7 & 10 still on the map? In all seriousness, FA is fighting Xelas in Fountain core and lower, VC has upper Fountain and Aridia on complete lock-down. There is no one (read: zip, zero, nada, nobody) fighting BoB here. No doubt, if BoB were here, someone would be fighting them - but they are not, they are busy up north. This is no secret, no one controls Fountain, however if you won't cede to that; at least remove the silly non-existent war markers.
Ty.
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DB Preacher
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Posted - 2006.01.06 10:35:00 -
[1600]
Originally by: Puncher Why are 7 & 10 still on the map? In all seriousness, FA is fighting Xelas in Fountain core and lower, VC has upper Fountain and Aridia on complete lock-down. There is no one (read: zip, zero, nada, nobody) fighting BoB here. No doubt, if BoB were here, someone would be fighting them - but they are not, they are busy up north. This is no secret, no one controls Fountain, however if you won't cede to that; at least remove the silly non-existent war markers.
Ty.
Hi,
We're on a short road trip and will be back SoonTM.
There are a few pirate forces around Fountain but nothing of any concern to our forces when we return.
Since no-one can challenge our claim directly, we still claim Fountain in our name and ofc, will back up that claim to the hilt.
Thanks, dbp
Current RKK Ranking: (CAL6) Tanto
Drop by and say hi in Reikoku Forums.
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Stulmar Eskanti
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Posted - 2006.01.06 18:34:00 -
[1601]
No RISK in Branch, it`s PA space, u can remove the warzone marker.Venal is indeed a warzone between .5., PA and F-E.
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Kleric
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Posted - 2006.01.06 19:54:00 -
[1602]
Originally by: DB Preacher
Originally by: Puncher Why are 7 & 10 still on the map? In all seriousness, FA is fighting Xelas in Fountain core and lower, VC has upper Fountain and Aridia on complete lock-down. There is no one (read: zip, zero, nada, nobody) fighting BoB here. No doubt, if BoB were here, someone would be fighting them - but they are not, they are busy up north. This is no secret, no one controls Fountain, however if you won't cede to that; at least remove the silly non-existent war markers.
Ty.
Hi,
We're on a short road trip and will be back SoonTM.
There are a few pirate forces around Fountain but nothing of any concern to our forces when we return.
Since no-one can challenge our claim directly, we still claim Fountain in our name and ofc, will back up that claim to the hilt.
Thanks, dbp
TBH if you arent in the area you dont control it, though i know that when your roadtrip is over you will take fountain again easy .. just that atm you arent in cotrol there.
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Wizie
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Posted - 2006.01.06 20:09:00 -
[1603]
Originally by: Kleric
Originally by: DB Preacher
Originally by: Puncher Why are 7 & 10 still on the map? In all seriousness, FA is fighting Xelas in Fountain core and lower, VC has upper Fountain and Aridia on complete lock-down. There is no one (read: zip, zero, nada, nobody) fighting BoB here. No doubt, if BoB were here, someone would be fighting them - but they are not, they are busy up north. This is no secret, no one controls Fountain, however if you won't cede to that; at least remove the silly non-existent war markers.
Ty.
Hi,
We're on a short road trip and will be back SoonTM.
There are a few pirate forces around Fountain but nothing of any concern to our forces when we return.
Since no-one can challenge our claim directly, we still claim Fountain in our name and ofc, will back up that claim to the hilt.
Thanks, dbp
TBH if you arent in the area you dont control it, though i know that when your roadtrip is over you will take fountain again easy .. just that atm you arent in cotrol there.
Last night I was in a 0.0 system "claimed" by some alliance, but no one was in it. So its mine. Plz change accordingly. XYZ-90 belongs to me.
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Edoo
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Posted - 2006.01.06 23:30:00 -
[1604]
Edited by: Edoo on 06/01/2006 23:33:31
Originally by: Amthrianius
Originally by: maxsuicide1
Originally by: Amthrianius
YOU ARE NBSI, YOU DONT SPEAK FOR PA.
he is in the warzone, why cant he?
He came to venal once and kept indocking and redocking in an ishkur. Havent seen him since and kb shows he is in empire, not venal.
I have many chars, and i know whats going on.
However i do remember that instance when i was in my ishkur, when i got insults about my mother in caps lock from one of your members.
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Kleric
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Posted - 2006.01.06 23:52:00 -
[1605]
Originally by: Wizie
Originally by: Kleric
Originally by: DB Preacher
Originally by: Puncher Why are 7 & 10 still on the map? In all seriousness, FA is fighting Xelas in Fountain core and lower, VC has upper Fountain and Aridia on complete lock-down. There is no one (read: zip, zero, nada, nobody) fighting BoB here. No doubt, if BoB were here, someone would be fighting them - but they are not, they are busy up north. This is no secret, no one controls Fountain, however if you won't cede to that; at least remove the silly non-existent war markers.
Ty.
Hi,
We're on a short road trip and will be back SoonTM.
There are a few pirate forces around Fountain but nothing of any concern to our forces when we return.
Since no-one can challenge our claim directly, we still claim Fountain in our name and ofc, will back up that claim to the hilt.
Thanks, dbp
TBH if you arent in the area you dont control it, though i know that when your roadtrip is over you will take fountain again easy .. just that atm you arent in cotrol there.
Last night I was in a 0.0 system "claimed" by some alliance, but no one was in it. So its mine. Plz change accordingly. XYZ-90 belongs to me.
So 1 alliance leave 1 system empty .. and one alliance leave the entire region empty for a while .. and your saying its the same? ..
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Vince Draken
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Posted - 2006.01.07 00:20:00 -
[1606]
Originally by: Edoo Edited by: Edoo on 06/01/2006 23:33:31
Originally by: Amthrianius
Originally by: maxsuicide1
Originally by: Amthrianius
YOU ARE NBSI, YOU DONT SPEAK FOR PA.
he is in the warzone, why cant he?
He came to venal once and kept indocking and redocking in an ishkur. Havent seen him since and kb shows he is in empire, not venal.
I have many chars, and i know whats going on.
However i do remember that instance when i was in my ishkur, when i got insults about my mother in caps lock from one of your members.
And this belongs in the Map Thread why?
The above thoughts and statements are IC and should be taken as such. |

thoth foc
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Posted - 2006.01.07 00:46:00 -
[1607]
Originally by: Edoo Edited by: Edoo on 06/01/2006 23:33:31
Originally by: Amthrianius
Originally by: maxsuicide1
Originally by: Amthrianius
YOU ARE NBSI, YOU DONT SPEAK FOR PA.
he is in the warzone, why cant he?
He came to venal once and kept indocking and redocking in an ishkur. Havent seen him since and kb shows he is in empire, not venal.
I have many chars, and i know whats going on.
However i do remember that instance when i was in my ishkur, when i got insults about my mother in caps lock from one of your members.
i'm sure your mother is important to this thread, but your info is always very bias and rather inaccuate tbh..
--thoth [5], ex-Curse Alliance ex-DSMA |

Edoo
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Posted - 2006.01.07 01:07:00 -
[1608]
Edited by: Edoo on 07/01/2006 01:08:50
Originally by: thoth foc
Originally by: Edoo Edited by: Edoo on 06/01/2006 23:33:31
Originally by: Amthrianius
Originally by: maxsuicide1
Originally by: Amthrianius
YOU ARE NBSI, YOU DONT SPEAK FOR PA.
he is in the warzone, why cant he?
He came to venal once and kept indocking and redocking in an ishkur. Havent seen him since and kb shows he is in empire, not venal.
I have many chars, and i know whats going on.
However i do remember that instance when i was in my ishkur, when i got insults about my mother in caps lock from one of your members.
i'm sure your mother is important to this thread, but your info is always very bias and rather inaccuate tbh..
As biased as yours, however i miss the entire point of the first part of your post unless you are trying to insult me, if so leave it out.
edit: Vince - im just defending myself against all the constant crap being fired at me. I cant understand why you cant respond with your opinions on the map rather than trying to discredit me.
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Vince Draken
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Posted - 2006.01.07 05:25:00 -
[1609]
Originally by: Edoo Edited by: Edoo on 07/01/2006 01:08:50
Originally by: thoth foc
Originally by: Edoo Edited by: Edoo on 06/01/2006 23:33:31
Originally by: Amthrianius
Originally by: maxsuicide1
Originally by: Amthrianius
YOU ARE NBSI, YOU DONT SPEAK FOR PA.
he is in the warzone, why cant he?
He came to venal once and kept indocking and redocking in an ishkur. Havent seen him since and kb shows he is in empire, not venal.
I have many chars, and i know whats going on.
However i do remember that instance when i was in my ishkur, when i got insults about my mother in caps lock from one of your members.
i'm sure your mother is important to this thread, but your info is always very bias and rather inaccuate tbh..
As biased as yours, however i miss the entire point of the first part of your post unless you are trying to insult me, if so leave it out.
edit: Vince - im just defending myself against all the constant crap being fired at me. I cant understand why you cant respond with your opinions on the map rather than trying to discredit me.
I can't understand what your mother has to do with the map tbfh. I wouldnt have had reason to post had you not gone offtopic.
I'm sure the mods will sort you though.
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maxsuicide1
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Posted - 2006.01.07 12:30:00 -
[1610]
Edited by: maxsuicide1 on 07/01/2006 12:32:24 atuk again make a thread into a flame fest. - its always the same ones isnt it? lol..
GJ.
vince: u must have missed half the thread out, but basically this is a run down of what happened to turn this thread into a smack fest between atuk and edoo.
edoo posts honest opinion/suggestion for the map. Amth comes in and then smacktalks him, saying he cant comment on the map. I say 'he is in the warzone, why cant he?' Amth says he only seen edoo around once and all he did was dock and undock and not much else. Edoo says he has many characters, one of which has been smacktalked about his mother by members of atuk, either refering to the smacktalk going on in this thread or maybe that amth was in local at the time this happened ingame. Enter thoth and amth again to smack edoo down. Edoo defends himself. Enter vince as backup for thoth and amth.
Why do u atuk guys feel the need to smack in every thread available to you? This is a map thread, not a 'omgwtfpafenbsigettingowned!!11' thread is it?
Give it a rest already, if you have nothing good to say dont post at all.
I somehow think mods will be deleting pretty much all posts up to edoo's first soon.
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thoth foc
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Posted - 2006.01.07 12:50:00 -
[1611]
Originally by: maxsuicide1 Edited by: maxsuicide1 on 07/01/2006 12:32:24 atuk again make a thread into a flame fest. - its always the same ones isnt it? lol..
GJ.
vince: u must have missed half the thread out, but basically this is a run down of what happened to turn this thread into a smack fest between atuk and edoo.
edoo posts honest opinion/suggestion for the map. Amth comes in and then smacktalks him, saying he cant comment on the map. I say 'he is in the warzone, why cant he?' Amth says he only seen edoo around once and all he did was dock and undock and not much else. Edoo says he has many characters, one of which has been smacktalked about his mother by members of atuk, either refering to the smacktalk going on in this thread or maybe that amth was in local at the time this happened ingame. Enter thoth and amth again to smack edoo down. Edoo defends himself. Enter vince as backup for thoth and amth.
Why do u atuk guys feel the need to smack in every thread available to you? This is a map thread, not a 'omgwtfpafenbsigettingowned!!11' thread is it?
Give it a rest already, if you have nothing good to say dont post at all.
I somehow think mods will be deleting pretty much all posts up to edoo's first soon.
This is a map thread, ur posts do not relate to the map.. nor does Edoo's references to smack or his mother..
Edoo's alliance next to never enters venal, to even have any accurate info on the situation, Edoo's PA character sits docked in 6nj most of the time. There are few kills in venal these days as our attention has been elsewhere, and it is only us that aggressively defend our space. A matter of a handful of PA actively fight in the area.. and these will be setup to kill smaller ships and run away..
--thoth [5], ex-Curse Alliance ex-DSMA |

maxsuicide1
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Posted - 2006.01.07 13:05:00 -
[1612]
his first post was related to the map, u guys then flamed him.
Thats how the smacktalk came about mate, there didnt have to be any smack, but u atuk guys made sure that there was.
Make posts about the map then, isntead of smacking a guy for making an honest opinion on the matter.
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Edoo
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Posted - 2006.01.07 13:06:00 -
[1613]
Originally by: thoth foc
Originally by: maxsuicide1 Edited by: maxsuicide1 on 07/01/2006 12:32:24 atuk again make a thread into a flame fest. - its always the same ones isnt it? lol..
GJ.
vince: u must have missed half the thread out, but basically this is a run down of what happened to turn this thread into a smack fest between atuk and edoo.
edoo posts honest opinion/suggestion for the map. Amth comes in and then smacktalks him, saying he cant comment on the map. I say 'he is in the warzone, why cant he?' Amth says he only seen edoo around once and all he did was dock and undock and not much else. Edoo says he has many characters, one of which has been smacktalked about his mother by members of atuk, either refering to the smacktalk going on in this thread or maybe that amth was in local at the time this happened ingame. Enter thoth and amth again to smack edoo down. Edoo defends himself. Enter vince as backup for thoth and amth.
Why do u atuk guys feel the need to smack in every thread available to you? This is a map thread, not a 'omgwtfpafenbsigettingowned!!11' thread is it?
Give it a rest already, if you have nothing good to say dont post at all.
I somehow think mods will be deleting pretty much all posts up to edoo's first soon.
This is a map thread, ur posts do not relate to the map.. nor does Edoo's references to smack or his mother..
Edoo's alliance next to never enters venal, to even have any accurate info on the situation, Edoo's PA character sits docked in 6nj most of the time. There are few kills in venal these days as our attention has been elsewhere, and it is only us that aggressively defend our space. A matter of a handful of PA actively fight in the area.. and these will be setup to kill smaller ships and run away..
Hah shows how much you know. I have never lived in 6nj, and only ever docked there once, about 8 months ago. I have a character in PA who actively PvPs in Venal. Nevermind the mods will sort you.
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ZedLey
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Posted - 2006.01.07 13:20:00 -
[1614]
Edoo if you need to defend PA or our claim for Venal then use your imaginary PA character for it.
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DB Preacher
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Posted - 2006.01.07 13:34:00 -
[1615]
Ye know, the mods should just stop random people posting about a region if their alliance/corp has nothing to do with that region.
Would save a helluva alot of problems in this thread.
dbp
Current RKK Ranking: (CAL6) Tanto
Drop by and say hi in Reikoku Forums.
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hired goon
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Posted - 2006.01.07 14:32:00 -
[1616]
Better chance number 12 from BOB VS IRON to BOB/5 vs IRON/G. -omg-
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StoreSlem
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Posted - 2006.01.07 16:31:00 -
[1617]
Edited by: StoreSlem on 07/01/2006 16:32:28 I would dispute FE's claim to Geminate, FE doesn't really have a presense there. See a lot more of FOE and Stella Nova and Big Blue guys there anyways.
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TWD
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Posted - 2006.01.07 17:52:00 -
[1618]
Originally by: hired goon Better chance number 12 from BOB VS IRON to BOB/5 vs IRON/G.
Don't bother, we've pulled down our online POS'.
In the process of moving out, just a lil crowd of 150 angry locals are slightly slowing us down. |

Slender Brenda
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Posted - 2006.01.07 18:49:00 -
[1619]
Originally by: ZedLey
Edoo if you need to defend PA or our claim for Venal then use your imaginary PA character for it.
fine.
Branch - PA Venal - warzone
m'kay? --------------------------- George Bush "I believe the human being and fish can coexist peacefully" |

Vince Draken
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Posted - 2006.01.07 23:05:00 -
[1620]
Originally by: maxsuicide1 his first post was related to the map, u guys then flamed him.
Thats how the smacktalk came about mate, there didnt have to be any smack, but u atuk guys made sure that there was.
Make posts about the map then, isntead of smacking a guy for making an honest opinion on the matter.
Nobody cares about you.
This isnt a thread for random alts ( ) that arent even involved.
Stick to out of pod where you can pretend to quit to get some attention.
The above thoughts and statements are IC and should be taken as such. |
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maxsuicide1
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Posted - 2006.01.07 23:38:00 -
[1621]
Edited by: maxsuicide1 on 07/01/2006 23:39:36
Originally by: Vince Draken
Originally by: maxsuicide1 his first post was related to the map, u guys then flamed him.
Thats how the smacktalk came about mate, there didnt have to be any smack, but u atuk guys made sure that there was.
Make posts about the map then, isntead of smacking a guy for making an honest opinion on the matter.
Nobody cares about you.
This isnt a thread for random alts ( ) that arent even involved.
Stick to out of pod where you can pretend to quit to get some attention.
Well thank u vince for proving my point.
dear oh dear oh dear...
oh and fyi, i only quit once, i have no idea where u get this quit thing from..
but oh well, enjoy your forum suspension 
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Vince Draken
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Posted - 2006.01.08 00:53:00 -
[1622]
Originally by: maxsuicide1 Edited by: maxsuicide1 on 07/01/2006 23:39:36
Originally by: Vince Draken
Originally by: maxsuicide1 his first post was related to the map, u guys then flamed him.
Thats how the smacktalk came about mate, there didnt have to be any smack, but u atuk guys made sure that there was.
Make posts about the map then, isntead of smacking a guy for making an honest opinion on the matter.
Nobody cares about you.
This isnt a thread for random alts ( ) that arent even involved.
Stick to out of pod where you can pretend to quit to get some attention.
Well thank u vince for proving my point.
dear oh dear oh dear...
oh and fyi, i only quit once, i have no idea where u get this quit thing from..
but oh well, enjoy your forum suspension 
You too
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Creamster
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Posted - 2006.01.08 00:58:00 -
[1623]
SE is out of Omist. We're back to Stain, gonna need a warzone sign  ___________ If you need further assistance, please don't hesitate to contact us again. We'll do all we can to help. |

thoth foc
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Posted - 2006.01.08 03:23:00 -
[1624]
Originally by: Slender Brenda
Originally by: ZedLey
Edoo if you need to defend PA or our claim for Venal then use your imaginary PA character for it.
fine.
Branch - PA Venal - warzone
m'kay?
we kill as much in branch and tenal as PA do in venal.. so if 1 is a warzone then both should be.. not really bothered which josh picks tbh..
--thoth [5], ex-Curse Alliance ex-DSMA |

Slender Brenda
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Posted - 2006.01.08 03:33:00 -
[1625]
Originally by: thoth foc
Originally by: Slender Brenda
Originally by: ZedLey
Edoo if you need to defend PA or our claim for Venal then use your imaginary PA character for it.
fine.
Branch - PA Venal - warzone
m'kay?
we kill as much in branch and tenal as PA do in venal.. so if 1 is a warzone then both should be.. not really bothered which josh picks tbh..
No because Branch is no more dangerous than in times of peace. The odd gank squad comes through, but there are no battles, and no constant conflict. --------------------------- George Bush "I believe the human being and fish can coexist peacefully" |

thoth foc
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Posted - 2006.01.08 04:38:00 -
[1626]
Originally by: Slender Brenda
Originally by: thoth foc
Originally by: Slender Brenda
Originally by: ZedLey
Edoo if you need to defend PA or our claim for Venal then use your imaginary PA character for it.
fine.
Branch - PA Venal - warzone
m'kay?
we kill as much in branch and tenal as PA do in venal.. so if 1 is a warzone then both should be.. not really bothered which josh picks tbh..
No because Branch is no more dangerous than in times of peace. The odd gank squad comes through, but there are no battles, and no constant conflict.
Which roughly describes venals wrt [5]/PA.. PA dont try to engage [5] in venals, and we at least try to engage PA in branch..
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Necronom
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Posted - 2006.01.08 06:28:00 -
[1627]
um alts arent allowed in this thread, mmkay.
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Slender Brenda
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Posted - 2006.01.08 12:09:00 -
[1628]
Originally by: thoth foc
Originally by: Slender Brenda
Originally by: thoth foc
Originally by: Slender Brenda
Originally by: ZedLey
Edoo if you need to defend PA or our claim for Venal then use your imaginary PA character for it.
fine.
Branch - PA Venal - warzone
m'kay?
we kill as much in branch and tenal as PA do in venal.. so if 1 is a warzone then both should be.. not really bothered which josh picks tbh..
No because Branch is no more dangerous than in times of peace. The odd gank squad comes through, but there are no battles, and no constant conflict.
Which roughly describes venals wrt [5]/PA.. PA dont try to engage [5] in venals, and we at least try to engage PA in branch..
propaganda ftl. --------------------------- George Bush "I believe the human being and fish can coexist peacefully" |

ZedLey
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Posted - 2006.01.08 12:48:00 -
[1629]
Slender they are called facts. PA doesnt want or try to engage us thus the region is ours.
But since you got nothing more to reply than "propaganda 4tl" then I think Josh can decide from that tbh.
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Edoo
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Posted - 2006.01.08 13:16:00 -
[1630]
Originally by: ZedLey
Slender they are called facts. PA doesnt want or try to engage us thus the region is ours.
But since you got nothing more to reply than "propaganda 4tl" then I think Josh can decide from that tbh.
ATUK never engage when they cannot win, and are always running from our PvPers. I cannot begin to describe how retarded your propaganda actually is, and how comically far from the truth it is.
I think thoth's comment about me being docked in 6nj says it all - you are willing to make up the most farfetched crap ever just to make people think that you are in control of Venal, but the fact is you are not, you cannot control it and you will not. Your propaganda sucks, and you can't face the facts in game so you come to the forums to maintain the 'atuk rule' image.
Im sorry to have been blunt there, and i wish i could have some respect for you, but its what you get for being a **** when i simply post my opinions on the map.
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ZedLey
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Posted - 2006.01.08 13:36:00 -
[1631]
Edited by: ZedLey on 08/01/2006 13:45:02
Originally by: Edoo
Originally by: ZedLey
Slender they are called facts. PA doesnt want or try to engage us thus the region is ours.
But since you got nothing more to reply than "propaganda 4tl" then I think Josh can decide from that tbh.
ATUK never engage when they cannot win, and are always running from our PvPers. I cannot begin to describe how retarded your propaganda actually is, and how comically far from the truth it is.
Do you umm realise wich one of us is the retarded one?
Your whole alliance cant bring the numbers to fight us. So what the #### are you saying?
Originally by: Edoo Im sorry to have been blunt there, and i wish i could have some respect for you, but its what you get for being a **** when i simply post my opinions on the map.
Your opinions have no truth in them. You could ask F-E what we do in Venal, we fight them everyday but your little pathetic bunch of rags wont even move a finger to defend your home region and let others do it for you.
PA has no presence what so ever in venal, everytime u get a small gang together you run back to 6nj/y-4 and logoff.
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Edoo
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Posted - 2006.01.08 13:45:00 -
[1632]
Siim your propaganda is plain stupid and anyone in the north knows it, now stop smacktalking and grow up.
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ZedLey
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Posted - 2006.01.08 13:46:00 -
[1633]
Originally by: Edoo Siim your propaganda is plain stupid and anyone in the north knows it, now stop smacktalking and grow up.
prove anything that I said is wrong. 
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Abdalion

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Posted - 2006.01.08 15:52:00 -
[1634]
Time to put the smackdown on this thread again.
Locked till I can sort the alts and trolls.
Click. ---
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Abdalion

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Posted - 2006.01.08 15:53:00 -
[1635]
And for your reading pleasure while I clean, warn, and ban...I present to you all the rules!
Linkage ---
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Boonaki
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Posted - 2006.01.08 18:37:00 -
[1636]
Can remove BoB vs IRON in Dek. Fear the Ibis of doom. |

pershphanie
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Posted - 2006.01.09 03:37:00 -
[1637]
Edited by: pershphanie on 09/01/2006 03:39:29
Originally by: StoreSlem Edited by: StoreSlem on 07/01/2006 16:32:28 I would dispute FE's claim to Geminate, FE doesn't really have a presense there. See a lot more of FOE and Stella Nova and Big Blue guys there anyways.
Big blue and stella nova are in geminate with FE's permission. If the map maker thinks foe has a big enough presence in geminate to warrent a warzone marker we will respect his decision. It is true that FE are primarily in venal atm however we will be back down to clear out the pirate activity in geminate shortly. Shooting at something else for a little while doesnt warrent 'losing space' (ex - see fountain and delve.) |

hired goon
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Posted - 2006.01.09 15:00:00 -
[1638]
Edited by: hired goon on 09/01/2006 14:59:53
Originally by: TWD
Originally by: hired goon Better chance number 12 from BOB VS IRON to BOB/5 vs IRON/G.
Don't bother, we've pulled down our online POS'.
I can verify this. -omg-
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hired goon
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Posted - 2006.01.09 15:20:00 -
[1639]
Originally by: Boonaki Can remove BoB vs IRON in Dek.
I verify this too. Pwnt  -omg-
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hired goon
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Posted - 2006.01.09 15:32:00 -
[1640]
Originally by: pershphanie Edited by: pershphanie on 09/01/2006 03:39:29
Originally by: StoreSlem Edited by: StoreSlem on 07/01/2006 16:32:28 I would dispute FE's claim to Geminate, FE doesn't really have a presense there. See a lot more of FOE and Stella Nova and Big Blue guys there anyways.
Big blue and stella nova are in geminate with FE's permission. If the map maker thinks foe has a big enough presence in geminate to warrent a warzone marker we will respect his decision. It is true that FE are primarily in venal atm however we will be back down to clear out the pirate activity in geminate shortly. Shooting at something else for a little while doesnt warrent 'losing space' (ex - see fountain and delve.)
I agree with this. Otherwise you might as well have un-claimed Delve, Fountain, and Period Basis for BoB while they were north.
Sorry about the amount of replies, I'm frisky atm -omg-
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Light Darkness
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Posted - 2006.01.10 18:47:00 -
[1641]
1V-LI2 claimed by -V-
Fights between RA and -V- in the JLO / 1V- / Konora area. Some RAT was listen in E02.
Regards /LD
*-V-President* *-V-Fleet Command*
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Xaarist
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Posted - 2006.01.10 20:21:00 -
[1642]
Chimaera Pact got a hold on the former Red Alliance refinery station in 0-W778 system this afternoon. We are still officially contesting the region - now that we have that station a contested marker would be appropriate for Detorid region.
---------------- (\_/) (O.o) (> <) This is an alien dressed as Bunny to secretly gain world domination. |

Serendipity Max
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Posted - 2006.01.10 21:35:00 -
[1643]
LV holds Omist without contest.
CHIMP seem to be contesting Detorid
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BoneEater
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Posted - 2006.01.11 04:21:00 -
[1644]
the Ushra¦Khan allaince claims some systems in the providence region :) |

Chowdown
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Posted - 2006.01.11 07:50:00 -
[1645]
Originally by: Serendipity Max LV holds Omist without contest.
CHIMP seem to be contesting Detorid
When we want to claim space in map threads expect to hear from us. In the mean time please mind your own business.
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Sergio Ling
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Posted - 2006.01.11 12:24:00 -
[1646]
TSDS claimed area - more like pirate infestation in all honesty. They're fighting about 5 different alliances, and they aint the only ones claiming the space. it's very fragmented, is upper providence
Originally by: Lluthiunne Atalaron He's too busy adjusting his leather pants and mullet to worry about petty things such as physics.
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Maggot
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Posted - 2006.01.11 16:03:00 -
[1647]
Originally by: Sergio Ling TSDS claimed area - more like pirate infestation in all honesty. They're fighting about 5 different alliances, and they aint the only ones claiming the space. it's very fragmented, is upper providence
Agreed - there are a number of systems claimed by different alliances and a large number of different pirate groups (including 1 pilot from BoB!) patroling the area . Should either be left as one large war zone, marked as contested, or as big infestation as suggested above.
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Naphtalia
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Posted - 2006.01.11 16:14:00 -
[1648]
Please move Warzone 8 (D7-ZAC) to H-PA in venal (F-E/PA/.5.) almost no fighting in Tribute for the last few weeks and 80-180 pilots in H-PA local multiple fleetfights in H-PA 15+ hours of the day. 10x the ammount of BS kills in H-PA over D7-Zac as well.
Cheers
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Kcel Chim
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Posted - 2006.01.11 16:23:00 -
[1649]
youve barely been a week in hpa and youre already requesting mapchanges.
Guess why the map is updated in certain intervalls? so that there are no "today we do this and 2morrow that happened" arguments.
P.S. we are still roaming d7 and plan to do so in future aswell.
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Naphtalia
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Posted - 2006.01.12 10:44:00 -
[1650]
lol ok :) roaming != warzone I thought.. we are still roaming in curse as well.. fleetbattles are happening in H-PA not in D7, but I don't want to map updated now. just want to get this info in so with the next update it can be taken into account.
It is just that ATUK are owning our fleets in Venal now (pa contested space) instead of tribute (f-e contested space)...
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thoth foc
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Posted - 2006.01.12 12:57:00 -
[1651]
Originally by: Naphtalia lol ok :) roaming != warzone I thought.. we are still roaming in curse as well.. fleetbattles are happening in H-PA not in D7, but I don't want to map updated now. just want to get this info in so with the next update it can be taken into account.
It is just that ATUK are owning our fleets in Venal now (pa contested space) instead of tribute (f-e contested space)...
i think a better solution would be to add F-E to the warzone marker in venal (if they arent there already) or maybe merge the warzone markers in some way (F-E are more active than PA in venal anyway)..
we arent overly active in specifically tribute atm, but we are fighting just 6 jumps away.. it's teh same war with the same ppl, and i dont think we need weekly updates on the weekly hot spots..
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Xaarist
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Posted - 2006.01.13 13:35:00 -
[1652]
CHIMP took DG- station yesterday, too. may change again, but last time i checked nothing was done by RA to get it back. ---------------- (\_/) (O.o) (> <) This is an alien dressed as Bunny to secretly gain world domination. |
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Abdalion

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Posted - 2006.01.14 00:21:00 -
[1653]
Originally by: Xaarist CHIMP took DG- station yesterday, too. may change again, but last time i checked nothing was done by RA to get it back.
Hello all,
Please take a look at this post by Zhuge: Linkage
1. Only post changes you believe should be made to the map.
That is the part I am referring to. So many stations change hands on a daily/weekly basis, that it would be near impossible to keep up a map with such events. Please list the region needing attention/changing, and hold on to the space for a decent length of time before making claims.
Note to Xaarist, I noted on the map that your alliance has a War Zone marked as #9. If this station taking you describe means that you are contesting the region, please post that clearly. ---
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Xaarist
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Posted - 2006.01.14 11:47:00 -
[1654]
Edited by: Xaarist on 14/01/2006 11:55:35 Edited by: Xaarist on 14/01/2006 11:52:24 Edited by: Xaarist on 14/01/2006 11:51:51 Edited by: Xaarist on 14/01/2006 11:50:26 Edited by: Xaarist on 14/01/2006 11:48:24 dear abdalion.
i have posted earlier that detorid deserves a contested marker.
page 1: me, myself and i said: "Chimaera Pact got a hold on the former Red Alliance refinery station in 0-W778 system this afternoon. We are still officially contesting the region - now that we have that station a contested marker would be appropriate for Detorid region."
see that "still" there? we contested it before, we even said in the interview which was on the news we do contest it, and it never showed up on or was removed from the map.
i wrote we took the dg- station just to give information to joshua on what is going on to help him in his decision if a contested marker would be appropriate. i could have written we killed 3 POS (incidents for contesting a region as posted in one of the initial posts) and placed some of our own, but i wanted to say it shorter because it all led to us taking the station, so i believed that this information would be short for: we came here with a lot of primates, blew things up, blew pos up, enjoyed everything, placed our own pos, had bananas for breakfast, lunch and dinner, lost some ships, too, brought freighters and dreadnought here, shot and finally took the station, so look, we are contesting in some way...
some of these things are definately those that are written in the section "how to "earn" a contested marker for a non npc region iirc. hence i wrote it the shortest way i could even imagine.
in all other points you are right, and it would have sent this to you by pm, but i am missing the option. i will send joshua an evemail then. read and delete if you want. ---------------- (\_/) (O.o) (> <) This is an alien dressed as Bunny to secretly gain world domination. |

Archonon
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Posted - 2006.01.14 19:39:00 -
[1655]
A long and interesting story (for u), but daily reports are useless when map is updated one time or twice by mounth. Map should represent a mean of the control during this period, wait for the next update and give intel at this time. _______________________ XIII member in local and all docked in Curse XIII's fleet around -V-'s dread and they called for Blob-jamming-Backup |

JGR Guinevere
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Posted - 2006.01.15 21:58:00 -
[1656]
Yes, the post was intended to submit for a change on the map in. Detroid is now legitamently contested. Please contact us in game if you require details about the situation. JGR Guinevere -=Lick My Toad=-
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Mari Cruel
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Posted - 2006.01.16 17:20:00 -
[1657]
Geminate is from long time not owned by FE - region is operated by 4s corp, Force of Evil aliance and Stella Nova United aliance
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Mari Cruel
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Posted - 2006.01.16 17:43:00 -
[1658]
i forgot - there is big blue too
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Recluse Viramor
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Posted - 2006.01.16 21:43:00 -
[1659]
Originally by: Mari Cruel Geminate is from long time not owned by FE - region is operated by 4s corp, Force of Evil aliance and Stella Nova United aliance
If either one of those entities wanted to lay claim to the region they would do it with a main, postings by alts mean nothing in this thread
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pershphanie
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Posted - 2006.01.17 01:25:00 -
[1660]
Originally by: Mari Cruel Geminate is from long time not owned by FE - region is operated by 4s corp, Force of Evil aliance and Stella Nova United aliance
we'll see about that :) |
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John Blackthorn
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Posted - 2006.01.17 01:35:00 -
[1661]
I am an offical of Stella Nova United. We are making no requests for map changes at this time. But you can consider gemni a war zone between f-e, 4s, snu, foe and possibly even big blue (though big blue can make that statement if they wish too).
John Blackthorn SNU - Diplomat
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Sethon
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Posted - 2006.01.17 04:32:00 -
[1662]
Stella Nova United does not need alts to make official posts for them. I believe John Blackthorn, and myself, are perfectly capable to make such announcements.
Sethon, Chairman Stella Nova United
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dResche
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Posted - 2006.01.17 13:24:00 -
[1663]
Stain Empire officially claims R-IZDC Constellation from now on. C-F seems to have lost interest for this constellation and haven¦t showed up for a fight since november ¦05. We have been very calm about the map since they managed to get on it and grace period is over now.
If you think that we have no right to claim this area, please feel free to pay us a visit. Forum postings in any kind will be ignored, as always.
Cheers, dResche
CEO of P.S.I Executor of Stain Empire
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thoth foc
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Posted - 2006.01.17 14:17:00 -
[1664]
Josh have you had a chance to scout venal yet?
With F-E officially leaving venal F-E Official Post and citing lack of support defending it from PA as 1 of the reasons, you might want to consider changing the map to reflex our full control of the area. PA had left the defence of the area to F-E for quite sometime and this final impediment is now gone.
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Hans Roaming
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Posted - 2006.01.17 14:34:00 -
[1665]
The pirate infestation in Domain has calmed down dramatically, however the HED pipe centered around Sv5 and 9k0e down to 36n is infested by pirates and camped daily so deserves a marker.
The Firmus Ixion space in Catch is now fully contested by forces from SA, KAOS and Huzzah, FAT is FIX, 5-n is Neytral and V2-VC2 is Huzzah and fighting has been going on for nearly a month now.
There is lots of conflict going on in Querilous too but am not sure this warrants a contested designation at this time, maybe just a warzone tag.
Hans
President Huzzah Federation
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dailyhazard
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Posted - 2006.01.17 20:46:00 -
[1666]
Originally by: dResche Stain Empire officially claims R-IZDC Constellation from now on. C-F seems to have lost interest for this constellation and haven¦t showed up for a fight since november ¦05. We have been very calm about the map since they managed to get on it and grace period is over now.
If you think that we have no right to claim this area, please feel free to pay us a visit. Forum postings in any kind will be ignored, as always.
Cheers, dResche
CEO of P.S.I Executor of Stain Empire
Sorry but staying in 1 station does not state a claim. Joshua pay no attention to these time wasters. ------------------------------------------------ need a sig tbfh |

pershphanie
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Posted - 2006.01.18 04:16:00 -
[1667]
Edited by: pershphanie on 18/01/2006 04:22:45
Originally by: thoth foc Josh have you had a chance to scout venal yet?
With F-E officially leaving venal F-E Official Post and citing lack of support defending it from PA as 1 of the reasons, you might want to consider changing the map to reflex our full control of the area. PA had left the defence of the area to F-E for quite sometime and this final impediment is now gone.
Confirmed. Pa's presence in venal should be a minor pirate infestation at best. |

theRaptor
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Posted - 2006.01.18 06:44:00 -
[1668]
I am claiming Delve for theRaptor alliance. I haven't seen a BoB pilot with a PVP fitting here for two weeks now.
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Tadis
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Posted - 2006.01.18 07:38:00 -
[1669]
Originally by: Hans Roaming The pirate infestation in Domain has calmed down dramatically, however the HED pipe centered around Sv5 and 9k0e down to 36n is infested by pirates and camped daily so deserves a marker.
The Firmus Ixion space in Catch is now fully contested by forces from SA, KAOS and Huzzah, FAT is FIX, 5-n is Neytral and V2-VC2 is Huzzah and fighting has been going on for nearly a month now.
There is lots of conflict going on in Querilous too but am not sure this warrants a contested designation at this time, maybe just a warzone tag.
Hans
FAT - Firmus Ixion 5-N - Firmus Ixion V2- - Huzzah Querious - Only gank squads, no sovereignity threatened, so hardly a war with the focus being in Catch.
Agree tho, Catch is a warzone between Firmus Ixion V SA, Huzzah, Kaos.
HED is of course pirate infested, and as such surrounding systems should be markered to reflect this.
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Rafaello Cruel
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Posted - 2006.01.18 09:57:00 -
[1670]
lol - Mari Cruel is my alt - thats true - my mistake - im not writing to much on forum - i have mistake to not check when posting (i dont know why is primary !?) but that is no difference on that FE is not owner of Geminate region from about half year you guys not interested in that area - i have not seen any fleet from 6 months... true is FE has lie some people about Geminate rights
so imho FE owning for Geminate must be removed ------------------------------------- best regards Rafaello Cruel
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pershphanie
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Posted - 2006.01.18 11:02:00 -
[1671]
Originally by: Rafaello Cruel lol - Mari Cruel is my alt - thats true - my mistake - im not writing to much on forum - i have mistake to not check when posting (i dont know why is primary !?) but that is no difference on that FE is not owner of Geminate region from about half year you guys not interested in that area - i have not seen any fleet from 6 months... true is FE has lie some people about Geminate rights
so imho FE owning for Geminate must be removed
FE has been involved in some major conflicts elsewhere for the past several months. But dont worry we are on our way to kick you out of geminate now. cya soon.
FE would like to request our warzone marker over tribute be moved to vale. The sides are FE vs foe vs 4s and SNU
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Shyalud
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Posted - 2006.01.18 15:15:00 -
[1672]
Edited by: Shyalud on 18/01/2006 15:17:02
Originally by: pershphanie But dont worry we are on our way to kick you out of geminate now. cya soon.
FEFTFW!! 
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Rafaello Cruel
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Posted - 2006.01.18 15:20:00 -
[1673]
so... lets fun begin :) ------------------------------------- best regards Rafaello Cruel
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Abdalion

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Posted - 2006.01.18 18:43:00 -
[1674]
Originally by: Rafaello Cruel so... lets fun begin :)
This isn't a discussion thread.
Originally by: Rafaello Cruel so imho FE owning for Geminate must be removed
This thread is also not for non-representatives to make requests in. Your alliance chairman designated himself and another above.
Please go through them to make your opinion known. ---
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Raid
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Posted - 2006.01.18 18:53:00 -
[1675]
Edited by: Raid on 18/01/2006 18:55:20 You gave control of Curse to the Red alliance?
Even though many people living in curse including yourself know that they do not control the region. Very misleading to people who will view this map. Curse should not be controled by anyone.
Edit: You also have something labeled CC in northern catch. That should read CCC not CC. CC = Curse coalition and we do not claim any space. ---------------------------- You can lead a dead horse to water but you can't make him drink.
Trolling sig statement removed -Abdalion
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Mystiel Raleigh
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Posted - 2006.01.18 20:43:00 -
[1676]
Figured I'd clarify something that's been bothering me for a while on these forums (it's also mispelled on the map.)
It's spelled 'Detorid.' Not Detroid, not Detroit (although your chances of getting shot at in Detorid are roughly the same as getting shot at in Detroit.)
Hope this helps, and yes I know I'm a spelling jerk for pointing this out.
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El Covah
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Posted - 2006.01.18 22:15:00 -
[1677]
Venal is still claimed by the Phoenix Alliance.
It is true that the infestation with the 5 around H-PA makes this part of Venal a contested part of the region. But nothing more.
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Joshua Foiritain
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Posted - 2006.01.18 23:46:00 -
[1678]
Originally by: Raid You gave control of Curse to the Red alliance?
Even though many people living in curse including yourself know that they do not control the region. Very misleading to people who will view this map. Curse should not be controled by anyone.
Edit: You also have something labeled CC in northern catch. That should read CCC not CC. CC = Curse coalition and we do not claim any space.
Well the five arent in curse, CC didnt want to officialy contest Curse, RA has become quite active in curse and therefor is well above the current alliances that want to claim it.
Personally i think marking a region as unclaimed would be more confusing as having it marked towards the strongest party in the region that wishes to claim it.
And whoops missed a C there. 
Originally by: Mystiel Raleigh (although your chances of getting shot at in Detorid are roughly the same as getting shot at in Detroit.)
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Raid
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Posted - 2006.01.19 00:03:00 -
[1679]
Originally by: Joshua Foiritain
Well the five arent in curse, CC didnt want to officialy contest Curse, RA has become quite active in curse and therefor is well above the current alliances that want to claim it.
Just because someone wants to claim it doesnt mean they actually do claim it. If someone enters through the heaven constellation they will not see any red alliance. Its more likely they will see CC of CDC corps! The Vast majority of the region is either a wasteland or inhabited by individual corps. So yes, i really do think its misleading to say curse is under the control of someone.
Historically it has always been claimed by someone since the CA held the majority of the systems. Those days are long over and until most of the red alliance lives in Curse (not just RUSH and section XIII) it should not be shown as controled by them.
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Rafaello Cruel
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Posted - 2006.01.19 02:32:00 -
[1680]
Originally by: Abdalion
Originally by: Rafaello Cruel so imho FE owning for Geminate must be removed
This thread is also not for non-representatives to make requests in. Your alliance chairman designated himself and another above. Please go through them to make your opinion known.
"Rules for this thread 1. Only post changes you believe should be made to the map."
FE not OWNING GEMINATE don't remove my post again map saying its FE region - and that is lie... even FE talking about lack of presence there.. if they want geminate back.. they need take it
and it is not about SNU will , it is not about FE will to make changes on map - it is about representing actual situation... ------------------------------------- best regards Rafaello Cruel
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pershphanie
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Posted - 2006.01.19 02:49:00 -
[1681]
Edited by: pershphanie on 19/01/2006 02:50:16
Originally by: Rafaello Cruel
Originally by: Abdalion
Originally by: Rafaello Cruel so imho FE owning for Geminate must be removed
This thread is also not for non-representatives to make requests in. Your alliance chairman designated himself and another above. Please go through them to make your opinion known.
"Rules for this thread 1. Only post changes you believe should be made to the map."
FE not OWNING GEMINATE don't remove my post again map saying its FE region - and that is lie... even FE talking about lack of presence there.. if they want geminate back.. they need take it
and it is not about SNU will , it is not about FE will to make changes on map - it is about representing actual situation...
So by your definition any alliance that fight a war somewhere other than their home space loses their space by default? Claiming space means the pilots of an alliance are not allowed to leave?
We are on our way down there. If you can take the space from us then you will claim it. Time will tell. You were an FE protectorate untill 3 days ago. I dont think inhabiting space for 3 days warrents a map change.
snu - get a handle on your noobs. They are just going to make your punishment worse. |

Rafaello Cruel
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Posted - 2006.01.19 15:01:00 -
[1682]
you misunderstand me... im not talking about SNU claim... im talking about free space - more not claimed...
what is your definition of claimed space ? true is ... no one claim that space for 100% -and if anyone is on that space and trying claim that space for now that in not FE ! im not asking to change claim to SNU or other aliance/corp - im just bring atention to fact that space is uncclaimed by no one that is a difference SNU not claimed that space for now - and statment is not my decision my intention is to claryfy on map fact there is no claim for no one
of coure i can change my point of view if you will tell me what is your definition for claimed space for now geminate is not claimed from 3 month i can see on that space: -4S -Big Blue -Force of Evil -Stella Nova United
if im not wrong - 4s, BB, FOE ale not a part of FE - i even belive you dont like too much ;) at last you have done agression to SNU and FE set SNU to kos - so even SNU is no longer friendly to FE it is not my decision who is owning that space... but for sure is that reagion is not claimed by FE
------------------------------------- best regards Rafaello Cruel
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Sergio Ling
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Posted - 2006.01.19 15:24:00 -
[1683]
I re-iterate what i said earlier, and what Maggot agreed to. upper providence (which I class as north of CVA/Huzzah space) is not TSDS. it's not UNITY. It's not CORVD. there are at least 4 alliances working there, and a couple of strong corporations, and pirates too. It's certainly not claimed by anyone.
of course, I mean no disrespect to either TSDS nor UNITY, who appear on the map as controlling sections, but it simply isn't true
Malthros Zenobia Says - You: , Us: |

Joshua Foiritain
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Posted - 2006.01.19 16:08:00 -
[1684]
Edited by: Joshua Foiritain on 19/01/2006 16:09:07
Alrighty, added "Multi Factional Warzones" which basicaly indicates a part of space is being fought over and being populated by to many diffrent alliances, corps and pilots and as such isnt really controlled by anyone nor cant it accuratly be listed as to who is fighting who.
Edit: If you still see the old map, hit CTRL+F5 while viewing it. This will force your browser to clear its cache and load the latest map. -------------
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Sergio Ling
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Posted - 2006.01.19 16:20:00 -
[1685]
that's a lot better, thanks. let it be noted that had the map said CORVD controlled space, i would have made the same objections.
for the sake of accuracy, we have three distinct sides, but not completely official:
CORVD, UNITY, SHOP and MAELSTROM
TSDS
Spontaneous Defenestration and KROM, with some help from FE
Malthros Zenobia Says - You: , Us: |

Xrak
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Posted - 2006.01.19 16:35:00 -
[1686]
Any chance of the numbers being made slightly bigger please?
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Khirion El'Laputa
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Posted - 2006.01.19 16:52:00 -
[1687]
Edited by: Khirion El''Laputa on 19/01/2006 16:52:55 Just one notice.
Rafaello Cruel is not diplomat for SNU, nor one of executives.
Regards Khirion
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Rafaello Cruel
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Posted - 2006.01.19 17:16:00 -
[1688]
yes - thats why im only informing about unclaimed space im not asking to move claim to other aliance/corp ------------------------------------- best regards Rafaello Cruel
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Drakoumel inSpace
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Posted - 2006.01.19 17:56:00 -
[1689]
I had the impression that venal was much more than just H-PA
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Argumentative
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Posted - 2006.01.19 18:09:00 -
[1690]
Immensea has been peacefully handed over to the Immensea residents by the Red Alliance.
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Light Darkness
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Posted - 2006.01.19 18:35:00 -
[1691]
Originally by: Argumentative Immensea has been peacefully handed over to the Immensea residents by the Red Alliance.
Lol....and wich alt you are????
Regards /LD
*-V-President* *-V-Fleet Command*
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Sethon
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Posted - 2006.01.19 19:21:00 -
[1692]
The only map change SNU wishes to propose is a war marker over Geminate. Any other changes will be presented by John Blackthorn or Myself no other SNU member has any authority to post anytihng offical on SNU's behalf.
SNU - This is not the place to discuss who Geminate's true owners are, regardless of personal feelings.
Let the guns speak, and a GL to FE, we look forward to it.
If anyone else from SNU posts here you will be added to my to-do list. This is not the place for you to post.
Sethon, Chairman SNU |

spookz
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Posted - 2006.01.19 20:45:00 -
[1693]
I don't see how the map should show 5 as the main occupier in venal. Sure enough they have pretty much owned us in H-PA, but owning one system doesn't equate to owning the whole region.
Join FCON |

Archonon
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Posted - 2006.01.20 00:22:00 -
[1694]
Originally by: Raid
Historically it has always been claimed by someone since the CA held the majority of the systems. Those days are long over and until most of the red alliance lives in Curse (not just RUSH and section XIII) it should not be shown as controled by them.
There is no active defence from hostile faction in Curse, RA&friends hold a large part of Curse atm. And u can't consider corp/alliance docked 23/24h in a single system as a contesting faction. _______________________ XIII's member in local and all docked in Curse XIII's fleet around -V-'s dread and they called for Blob-jamming-Backup |

Amthrianius
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Posted - 2006.01.20 01:19:00 -
[1695]
Edited by: Amthrianius on 20/01/2006 01:21:18
Originally by: spookz I don't see how the map should show 5 as the main occupier in venal. Sure enough they have pretty much owned us in H-PA, but owning one system doesn't equate to owning the whole region.
To attempt any claim of our region you would need to attack us. You havent the last remenants of PA this week were crushed at their own POS which was also destroyed. Sure you can log on and off in weird out of the way systems and NPC, but thats not protecting, claiming or fighting for a region, thats called npcing in our space.
This is your eviction notice
Leave.
EDIT: and oh, if at anytime you want to attempt to attack our region with a fleet then feel free, we need some large T1 guns to refine. ---------------
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Mortuus
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Posted - 2006.01.20 01:55:00 -
[1696]
Does this mean that all one needs to do to claim a region is take one system with NPC stations, and set up a large PoS? Occassus Republica, NBSI |

Amthrianius
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Posted - 2006.01.20 01:58:00 -
[1697]
Originally by: Mortuus Does this mean that all one needs to do to claim a region is take one system with NPC stations, and set up a large PoS?
No you also need unhindered travel rights wherever you go with enemies that darent come out of their shell npc stations or log in and out in complex systems. No real threat to our security of the region. To claim a region you have to fight for it, for which the Phoenix Alliance has failed. ---------------
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Raid
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Posted - 2006.01.20 02:39:00 -
[1698]
Edited by: Raid on 20/01/2006 02:39:30
Originally by: Archonon
There is no active defence from hostile faction in Curse, RA&friends hold a large part of Curse atm. And u can't consider corp/alliance docked 23/24h in a single system as a contesting faction.
Map illustrates that RA does not control the region. It is not contested between any two factions but multiple factions within the region. You have no control over the region, neither do we or anyone else. Thats what the map illustrates.
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Mephistos
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Posted - 2006.01.20 03:06:00 -
[1699]
Amth, honestly, I don't think I've seen you guys outside of H-PA, 9-2 and D-8 with the exception of some small raids.
I'm sure it can be agreed that you control southern Venal, but most of the region can be travelled unhindered by ATUK.
For now I believe it should still be considered contested.
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Kcel Chim
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Posted - 2006.01.20 10:49:00 -
[1700]
Originally by: Mephistos Amth, honestly, I don't think I've seen you guys outside of H-PA, 9-2 and D-8 with the exception of some small raids.
I'm sure it can be agreed that you control southern Venal, but most of the region can be travelled unhindered by ATUK.
For now I believe it should still be considered contested.
May i ask you what youre doing to contest the region then ? a) you have not more pilots in the region (active) b) youve lost every fleetbattle, if you ever managed to make a fleet c) your allies abandones you because of a)+b) d) we roam freely, you guys are forced to dock
so in short sitting all day in a pos makes you contest a region ?
I think the mapmaker got it right, especially with the recent FE statement (rather objectiv) about your activities in that area.
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Mephistos
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Posted - 2006.01.20 11:06:00 -
[1701]
Well first and foremost I'm not a member of the PA (I've just been too lazy to put on the setting that shows corp and alliance).
a) Well that might be a matter of the times I'm on and around, because I tend to see more PA members out and about then 5, then again I recognize that you folks control H-PA and don't make a habit of making casual stops there. Although I've made many a hauler run into the system without any sort of opposition that threatened me.
b) All of you silly people tend to have fleet battles when I'm not at home, but if one managed to muster a fleet and engage wouldn't that indicate contention of space? If one loses constantly and one force is spreading and taking control of space then I'd say that yes, you are controlling the space. However you don't seem to be leaving the general H-PA area, which is why I believe there is still contention over Venal as a whole.
c) F-E abandoned PA yes, but how does that affect whether or not PA controls the region?
d) I roam the place freely, one of Atuk's haulers logged :p Actually, the only time that I haven't been able to roam freely was when I wasn't paying attention and tried to go through H-PA during a heavy fleet battle day. In general if you roam through a place where people are NPC'ing with a gank squad their pilots dock. By your standards there at various times I've controlled GW and most of ASCN space as well.
Basically all of your arguements boil down to, "We control this small section of Venal, and we can send out gank squads , we must control the region!"
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Archonon
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Posted - 2006.01.20 11:06:00 -
[1702]
Originally by: Raid
Map illustrates that RA does not control the region. It is not contested between any two factions but multiple factions within the region. You have no control over the region, neither do we or anyone else. Thats what the map illustrates.
U can't contested something u're not defending, u avoid any fight u're not a contested faction neither than the others corp docked in Curse. Again been docked in doril doesn't mean u contested something. _______________________ XIII's member in local and all docked in Curse XIII's fleet around -V-'s dread and they called for Blob-jamming-Backup |

Kcel Chim
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Posted - 2006.01.20 11:17:00 -
[1703]
these ramblings will be removed anyways.
If PA wishes to contest the region let them bring a fleet and achieve something.
After you added your tag i start to wonder tho why you as an NBSI pilot dispute a contested or owned status for another alliance (hence my first assumption that you were actually PA).
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jernej
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Posted - 2006.01.20 11:51:00 -
[1704]
Edited by: jernej on 20/01/2006 11:51:43
Originally by: Kcel Chim these ramblings will be removed anyways.
If PA wishes to contest the region let them bring a fleet and achieve something.
After you added your tag i start to wonder tho why you as an NBSI pilot dispute a contested or owned status for another alliance (hence my first assumption that you were actually PA).
He has to do that because we don't like to post on forums. And why should we send a fleet to fight one of the best pvp alliances for h-pa when we have 5 other systems with stations in Venal that are just as good.
  
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pershphanie
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Posted - 2006.01.20 11:53:00 -
[1705]
Edited by: pershphanie on 20/01/2006 11:55:27
Originally by: jernej [ He has to do that because we don't like to post on forums. And why should we send a fleet to fight one of the best pvp alliances for h-pa when we have 5 other systems with stations in Venal that are just as good.
  
and ppl wonder why things had to turn out like this. If anyone would like to know why fe is no longer in venal please look above.
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Cmd Woodlouse
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Posted - 2006.01.20 12:33:00 -
[1706]
Originally by: jernej Edited by: jernej on 20/01/2006 11:51:43
Originally by: Kcel Chim these ramblings will be removed anyways.
If PA wishes to contest the region let them bring a fleet and achieve something.
After you added your tag i start to wonder tho why you as an NBSI pilot dispute a contested or owned status for another alliance (hence my first assumption that you were actually PA).
He has to do that because we don't like to post on forums. And why should we send a fleet to fight one of the best pvp alliances for h-pa when we have 5 other systems with stations in Venal that are just as good.
  
omg 
if thats the general PA attitude, the mapmaker did his job indeed right.
Would be interesting to hear an official PA spokesperson on this matter 
-G- Pink Power
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jernej
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Posted - 2006.01.20 12:49:00 -
[1707]
Originally by: pershphanie Edited by: pershphanie on 20/01/2006 11:55:27
Originally by: jernej [ He has to do that because we don't like to post on forums. And why should we send a fleet to fight one of the best pvp alliances for h-pa when we have 5 other systems with stations in Venal that are just as good.
  
and ppl wonder why things had to turn out like this. If anyone would like to know why fe is no longer in venal please look above.
I do understand your frustration and I don't want this to become a debate about how to best fight the war or who is pulling more weight or why FE came to h-pa or why they left it. But I think that if ATUK allocated more resources in controlling their shiny new reigion then your frustration would be less.
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Raid
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Posted - 2006.01.20 14:38:00 -
[1708]
Originally by: Archonon
Originally by: Raid
Map illustrates that RA does not control the region. It is not contested between any two factions but multiple factions within the region. You have no control over the region, neither do we or anyone else. Thats what the map illustrates.
U can't contested something u're not defending, u avoid any fight u're not a contested faction neither than the others corp docked in Curse. Again been docked in doril doesn't mean u contested something.
Your missing the point. RA doesnt control curse any more than we do.
For your next post how about you just post changes you feel should be made to the map and back it up with some logic rather than "everyone but RA is docked 23/7" because you look stupid when you make stuff up like that.
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pacifica
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Posted - 2006.01.20 15:32:00 -
[1709]
dear Map maker
Pls can u correct the venal region was fast to give it to .5. when they control only 1 system.
.5. Are in h-pa
if u think that controling 1 system give u the region then it not very wize.
Venal is a battle field.
H-PA why we don t go in is simple this system can t handle fleet fight the lag is terrible. so pls correct your Map.
Tks
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Stulmar Eskanti
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Posted - 2006.01.20 16:05:00 -
[1710]
You gotta love it how controling one system in an npc region gives u control over the whole region. .5. control h-pa there`s no question about that, they massed their whole alliance in that system and through all the lag that folowed they managed to defeat any attempts by the PA to kick em out. But that`s all that they control.Venal also has 6nj,y-4,pf-,p-v,k3 and n5 with stations that are all controled by the PA.So lets see PA controls 6 of the 7 systems with station but still Five shows up as claiming the region.Nice move mr. mapmaker 
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Laurelin1420

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Posted - 2006.01.20 20:26:00 -
[1711]
Once again.....this is NOT a discussion thread.
You have a Corporation and Alliance forum for that.
Thanks 
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Gypsy Djinn
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Posted - 2006.01.20 22:23:00 -
[1712]
Originally by: Raid
Originally by: Archonon
Originally by: Raid
Map illustrates that RA does not control the region. It is not contested between any two factions but multiple factions within the region. You have no control over the region, neither do we or anyone else. Thats what the map illustrates.
U can't contested something u're not defending, u avoid any fight u're not a contested faction neither than the others corp docked in Curse. Again been docked in doril doesn't mean u contested something.
Your missing the point. RA doesnt control curse any more than we do.
For your next post how about you just post changes you feel should be made to the map and back it up with some logic rather than "everyone but RA is docked 23/7" because you look stupid when you make stuff up like that.
Normally I would be the last person to back up a Tyrell member but in this case, the only fair thing to do is to set the record straight. As far as Tyrell always being docked in Doril, while this may be a funny comment for a normal thread it's just ridicules in this one. Tyrell are very active in the region and fight daily with us, and now the Battle Angels that were hired by ISS for protection (from both of our groups).
While we are allies of RA in this confrontation in the south against the same enemies, RA does not have forces in number in the curse area marked as contested with CC on the map. RA has their hands full elsewhere as is well documented in this thread and we have no problem with the current battlefields being drawn as such but if anything the map should show CC vs VIRII in that area as, in my estimation VIRII fights CC more then RA fights them and kills and loses for all combatants would reflect that, but thats neither here nor there, the fact is that CC is an active entity in the area and should be shown as such until such time that VIRII completes running them out of the region (sorry had to toss that jab in Raid, was being way to cordial and we can't have that, people will start to talk... )
V I R I I HeadQuarters http://virii.homeip.net
V I R I I - We Are Here For Your Daughters
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Raeff
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Posted - 2006.01.20 22:24:00 -
[1713]
venal = contested
not much discussion to it tbh
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oidalia
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Posted - 2006.01.20 22:59:00 -
[1714]
giving Venal to 5 is redicilous, thats like G/Iron would have gotten the whole area of ASCN/SA space when they owned C9N/AZN. Sometimes u should at least think a bit about what u change and get some informations before u do major mistakes like this one because stuff like that makes the map totaly meaningless.
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Angry Dan
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Posted - 2006.01.20 23:55:00 -
[1715]
Huzzah Federation now hold 2 stations in Catch. V2VC2 has been held for a few weeks now, and 5-N2EY fell to us alst night.
Allied forces of Huzzah Federation, Kaos Empire and Stain Alliance are engaged all over Catch now, as well as mounting regular raids into FiX territory. Notice I said raids, not invasion.
Pirates have started to make regular raids in lower Providence since the start of the war.Even though they had been camping the Hed-GP pipe for some time prior to this, and are for the most part ex FiX corps, there sudden appearance is totally unconnected with the FiX war. It must be a coincidence that they suddenly started jumping into Providence instead of catch.
So, in summary, Catch is now totally contested. Pirate activity in lower Providence has dramatically increased, and so a pirate infestation marker is probably warranted around Hed-GP/lower Providence. ++++++++++++++++++++ Founder member of the Huzzah Federation. Remember, the grass is greener on our side of the fence Widowmakers director Fear my kneepads of allure!
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Riley Craven
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Posted - 2006.01.21 15:16:00 -
[1716]
Mr map maker. I would like to add my two cents.
While this would overcomplicate the map hugely, claims should really be done by solarsytems and then have an overreaching claim. For exmaples ISS owns a number of systems in the querious region but they dont get credit for that.
Secondly, your map seems to be done by entire regions. In practice an allaince could actaully only hold half of the region and not contest the other half. Just my ideas
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Edoo
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Posted - 2006.01.21 15:35:00 -
[1717]
Originally by: Riley Craven Mr map maker. I would like to add my two cents.
While this would overcomplicate the map hugely, claims should really be done by solarsytems and then have an overreaching claim. For exmaples ISS owns a number of systems in the querious region but they dont get credit for that.
Secondly, your map seems to be done by entire regions. In practice an allaince could actaully only hold half of the region and not contest the other half. Just my ideas
Agreed.
Northern Venal is totally PA, southern is contested. JF you are a fool for believing the propaganda 
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Ituralde
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Posted - 2006.01.22 00:26:00 -
[1718]
Reccomend syndicate for a multi-factional warzone thing?
Also would it be too much of a pain to put down alliance blocks or parties in major wars going on? I think it might add more information for those who are not familiar with all of alliance politics going on and who is fighting who, and who is buddy-buddy with who.
Just random two cents.
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Vishnej
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Posted - 2006.01.22 01:09:00 -
[1719]
Bottommost Vale and Geminate deserve a warzone marker - F-E is going to be taking part in the three+ way bout down there, and LS-JEP station was just taken.
Between who and who, I'm not sure... you should check out the thread
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VantDre
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Posted - 2006.01.22 11:15:00 -
[1720]
Go easy on him guys, afterall he is responsible for alot of information that might not be given accurately depending on swift ownership changes. Making solar system representations would require a much larger map and would be harder to precieve direct alliance growth.
I'd like to ask that venal is changed to contested aswell like my PA fellows. One among many resisting ATUK in HPA and surrounding systems.
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G'ulSera
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Posted - 2006.01.22 13:43:00 -
[1721]
Originally by: Ituralde Reccomend syndicate for a multi-factional warzone thing?
Also would it be too much of a pain to put down alliance blocks or parties in major wars going on? I think it might add more information for those who are not familiar with all of alliance politics going on and who is fighting who, and who is buddy-buddy with who.
Just random two cents.
You can check the diplomacy table for that... *For Blood and Honour* *The difference between a killer and a soldier is a question of loyalty*
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Rover Vitesse
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Posted - 2006.01.22 17:06:00 -
[1722]
Edited by: Rover Vitesse on 22/01/2006 17:06:31 Wicked Creek is now a warzone between -LV-/KOS/CHIMP and RA/FFA.
 Chimaera Pact Minister For Propaganda Rovers Chronicles
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MakkAnzy
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Posted - 2006.01.22 23:24:00 -
[1723]
You should just put all of space under The Five and be done with it, Venal under The Five is a farce they have never been sucessfull getting themselves out of one system.
To that I claim all of empire!
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Ichabod Crane
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Posted - 2006.01.23 00:52:00 -
[1724]
Originally by: Ituralde Reccomend syndicate for a multi-factional warzone thing?
Also would it be too much of a pain to put down alliance blocks or parties in major wars going on? I think it might add more information for those who are not familiar with all of alliance politics going on and who is fighting who, and who is buddy-buddy with who.
Just random two cents.
Problem with Syndicate is it isnt really a warzone that could be considered contested, its more of an intergalactic free for all.
There are only two or three areas that are actually claimed by anyone and the bits in between is open space, hence the reason why it doesnt have a marker... same as northern Pure Blind.
But... then this thread isnt for a discussion right? 
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Darkrydar
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Posted - 2006.01.23 01:26:00 -
[1725]
PA and NBSI are much like FA in its dying days.
They can't bring it ingame, so they attack the map maker.
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pacifica
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Posted - 2006.01.23 03:21:00 -
[1726]
Originally by: Darkrydar PA and NBSI are much like FA in its dying days.
They can't bring it ingame, so they attack the map maker.
BTW i didn t attack the map Maker
if u hold venal that mean V C hold Fountain
Simple
can we agree that we was in h-pa and yes the lag was terrible we lost 1 POS but was 24hrs we was trying to get in.
So if u hold Venal then Fountain is to Vertigo Coalition ty  Respect and Honor is the way to go in the game. |

Vina
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Posted - 2006.01.23 09:01:00 -
[1727]
You lost 1 large POS and 21 battleships.
We lost a stilleto and rifter.
The skill difference between us pacifica... it means something too. Not to mention you guys just logoff now if you even see us in local in 6NJ or Y-4. -----------------------------------
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spookz
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Posted - 2006.01.23 11:09:00 -
[1728]
This is why we lost 21 BS.
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Hoshi
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Posted - 2006.01.23 11:13:00 -
[1729]
Originally by: Vina You lost 1 large POS and 21 battleships.
We lost a stilleto and rifter.
The skill difference between us pacifica... it means something too. Not to mention you guys just logoff now if you even see us in local in 6NJ or Y-4.
Since when is control of a region decided by losses? In that case I guess G should be given control of all ascn space on default even if they are not where anymore.
I still say we need to get clear definitions posted about what it takes to control a region. Similar to the one Joshua has on contesting regions.
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thoth foc
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Posted - 2006.01.23 11:41:00 -
[1730]
Originally by: Hoshi
Since when is control of a region decided by losses? In that case I guess G should be given control of all ascn space on default even if they are not where anymore.
I still say we need to get clear definitions posted about what it takes to control a region. Similar to the one Joshua has on contesting regions.
try: Control descriptions
ATUK/.5. have shown a clear military dominance in the area for an extended period of time (and we're talking months here). This has been confirmed by entities hostile to us, and even some PA. We patiently waited recognition of this fact, despite it being obvious to anyone that cared by the area (which largely doesnt include PA) from the earliest engagements of the campaign.
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Hoshi
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Posted - 2006.01.23 14:35:00 -
[1731]
Originally by: thoth foc try: Control descriptions
ATUK/.5. have shown a clear military dominance in the area for an extended period of time (and we're talking months here). This has been confirmed by entities hostile to us, and even some PA. We patiently waited recognition of this fact, despite it being obvious to anyone that cared by the area (which largely doesnt include PA) from the earliest engagements of the campaign.
That's NOT control descriptions but contesting descriptions, these are 2 VERY different things.
I don't care about venal, what I do care about is people (5 being one of the most notorious but are far from alone) claiming and being given control on map over region which they have no real in game control over what so ever.
This is why I again call for clear rules of what it takes to claim control over a region, specialy npc regions.
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pacifica
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Posted - 2006.01.23 15:13:00 -
[1732]
Originally by: Vina You lost 1 large POS and 21 battleships.
We lost a stilleto and rifter.
The skill difference between us pacifica... it means something too. Not to mention you guys just logoff now if you even see us in local in 6NJ or Y-4.
Your Ego is so Big
Look i can say ATUK do the same when u know at 90% that your winning chance is 0 then better log Off
Exemple dear Atuk : 5 hac enter 1 system (Atuk) 1 lonely BS ins system. Persone go SS it normal then u smack her
we enter same system u guys run to SS and log Off.
But us we can t smack cause u are Uber. Right hand off
Atuk leader need to teach is mate that telling ppl to cancel subscription is bad. in local a lot of Atuk member do that. calling name treating ppl real life in smack you guys loose control of your smack machine.
i don t care about smack but when it it personel thing it hard u don t take it as a game any more dear Atuk or Five.
all the corp in The Five live in the shadow Of ATUK.
Over and Out i hope 1 day the ATUK leader teach is smack machine to get real.
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thoth foc
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Posted - 2006.01.23 15:20:00 -
[1733]
Originally by: Hoshi
I don't care about venal, what I do care about is people (5 being one of the most notorious but are far from alone) claiming and being given control on map over region which they have no real in game control over what so ever.
why do you care about us? if you have no concerns in the area, why infer you have any knowledge of the current situation here?
--thoth [5], ex-Curse Alliance ex-DSMA |

DJTheBaron
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Posted - 2006.01.23 15:21:00 -
[1734]
/me smacks & flames
seriousily, theres a reason why you peole dont post your losses, it would be embarasing to look at your wn killboards __________________________________________________
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Br0dY
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Posted - 2006.01.23 15:33:00 -
[1735]
IMO it is your own fault that Venal has been designated under our control. The mapmaker did announce in his previus update, that he'd be scouting the area and u did nothing until FE broke your pact to defend any system in Venal. Since then even your futile attempts have been dealt with and tbh, PA should cease and decease.
Venal is under the Five's control.
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pacifica
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Posted - 2006.01.23 15:55:00 -
[1736]
Ok u see now.
Atuk response. Look at the video u will see what i say.
we post our lost u guys forget your lost too so no big deal.
answer us ATUK own H-PA with the lag advantage. Get real we did go their we did fight the lag we did target the space.
For FE the communication was not good the organization wasn t be able to be make So the Thing betown FE and US stay with us. ATM i m glad to fight u or at lease to try to fight U before u log OFF
For the MAP Venal is a contess region u Can get a region by 1 system. If SO GIVE FOUNTAIN TO VC. they have POS in Fountain BOB have none.
Venal is contested by PA,RISK,ATUK and all the ppl that want to try their Mark in 0.0 space
It simple. ATUK own nothing just a contested Space ATM.
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DB Preacher
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Posted - 2006.01.23 16:25:00 -
[1737]
Edited by: DB Preacher on 23/01/2006 16:31:39
Originally by: pacifica For the MAP Venal is a contess region u Can get a region by 1 system. If SO GIVE FOUNTAIN TO VC. they have POS in Fountain BOB have none.
Please leave Fountain out of your dialogue in this thread.
As VC have consistently stated, they have no desire to control Fountain.
Oh and we do have POS in fountain.
You lost Venal, good luck getting it back, I don't imagine for a second you will be too successful if 5 decide to remain there.
However, next time you are going to attempt to use a completely different situation to reflect your own, at least make some attempt to get the facts correct.
Thanks, dbp
Current RKK Ranking: (CAL6) Tanto
Drop by and say hi in Reikoku Forums.
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thoth foc
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Posted - 2006.01.23 17:20:00 -
[1738]
Originally by: pacifica ATM i m glad to fight u or at lease to try to fight U before u log OFF
...
Venal is contested by PA,RISK,ATUK and all the ppl that want to try their Mark in 0.0 space
Firstly RISK have never indicated they wish to be involved in contesting Venal unless you are now a RISK spokesperson?
Secondly as F-E have testified, .5. have been involved in defending our region daily for weeks. If you claimed this region why was it F-E fighting for it and not you?
If PA decide to contest the region ingame, the results will be self evident. So lets leave this discussion to ingame (for guns) and if PA have significant results to prove they are at least trying to fight us, by the next map update, then i have no doubt Joshua will consider your claims.
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Abdalion

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Posted - 2006.01.23 17:56:00 -
[1739]
Reopened.
5 and PA are having issues with Venal, that much is clear.
Pick ONE person to post about it from either side, and stick to that. There will not be arguing in this thread. Be polite, respectful, or don't post. ---
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John Blackthorn
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Posted - 2006.01.23 18:44:00 -
[1740]
Stella Nova United is located in the lower Gemni region from Atioth to ov-pb. We have been there in some form or another for 6-8 months. We had a nap with f-e at the time. SNU is now at war with f-e over a dispute on who we should be shooting in Gemni.
SNU is naped with 4S corp (and there new alliance), Big Blue, Red Alliance, PA, NBSI and several other smaller but good friends.
4S seem to reside in the Vale of Silent area and are in a very hostile area but seem to be making good process against f-e :)
Big Blue holds a Neutrality agreement with most groups and they are trying to be respectfull of the area that they hold on the West side of Gemni off the BWF gate.
Force Of Evil are also in the Gemni region and are currently kos to basicly everyone. But they do mange to put some fleet action in the area as well. So it's an nice 4 way battle with 1 neutral enity in the area.
I imagine this will be a long term conflict for all sides.
Regards, John Blackthorn Stella Nova United
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Riley Craven
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Posted - 2006.01.23 19:35:00 -
[1741]
Mr map maker. I would like to add my two cents.
While this would overcomplicate the map hugely, claims should really be done by solarsytems and then have an overreaching claim. For exmaples ISS owns a number of systems in the querious region but they dont get credit for that.
Secondly, your map seems to be done by entire regions. In practice an allaince could actaully only hold half of the region and not contest the other half. Just my ideas
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Xachiriah
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Posted - 2006.01.23 19:41:00 -
[1742]
Originally by: Riley Craven Mr map maker. I would like to add my two cents.
While this would overcomplicate the map hugely, claims should really be done by solarsytems and then have an overreaching claim. For exmaples ISS owns a number of systems in the querious region but they dont get credit for that.
Dont you think if they wanted to make a claim they would ask for it to be marked themselves?
If im not mistaken ISS's sov claims are done as necessity and game mechanics demands it. Try reading their mission statement or whatever it is, and I think you'll find they dont officially claim anything based on their desire to be a neutral entity.
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Abdalion

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Posted - 2006.01.23 22:03:00 -
[1743]
Originally by: Riley Craven Mr map maker. I would like to add my two cents.
Ms. Craven, please eve-mail the mapmaker in game. ---
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Edge1
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Posted - 2006.01.24 15:22:00 -
[1744]
Someone should knock up a little animated thing, so you can see how the regions have changed hands over the years.
That would be cool 
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pershphanie
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Posted - 2006.01.24 22:39:00 -
[1745]
Originally by: Edge1 Someone should knock up a little animated thing, so you can see how the regions have changed hands over the years.
That would be cool 
best idea ever
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Pehova Mindtriq
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Posted - 2006.01.25 12:18:00 -
[1746]
Is it possible to see those really old maps? Anyone got links to those?
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Delthus
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Posted - 2006.01.25 15:22:00 -
[1747]
Originally by: John Blackthorn Edited by: John Blackthorn on 23/01/2006 18:59:24
4S seem to reside in the Vale of Silent area and are in a very hostile area but seem to be making good process against f-e :)
4s has been removed from vale of silent region thank you for ur tiem on this matter
 
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Pepperami
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Posted - 2006.01.25 15:42:00 -
[1748]
Edited by: Pepperami on 25/01/2006 15:43:24 ugh, ignore me, IGB cache ftl  ___________________________
Originally by: TheKiller8 anyone who disagrees with my opinion is a racist.
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Sethon
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Posted - 2006.01.25 23:37:00 -
[1749]
Originally by: Abdalion To all alliances:
Please pick ONE person per alliance/faction to post about your claims from either side, and stick to that.
Stella Nova United has 2 people with authority to post here. Myself and John Blackthorn. If you wish us to reduce that to 1, then I will be the one to make posts here.
Idea: Could we perhaps get a post from ISD in this thread with Alliance > Designated Poster to avoid confusion.
Sethon, Chairman Stella Nova United
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Hrypa Neriansson
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Posted - 2006.01.26 09:48:00 -
[1750]
Excuse me Mr Map maker, I whish to comment on the æBand of Brothers Vs Aridia localsÆ to be reviewed.
I have been basing my operations out of Aridia for the past two months I believe this is invalid since the only people I see are Vertigo Collation and Imperium Alliance patrolling the region, I have not seen these æBand of BrothersÆ anywhere within this region.
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DB Preacher
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Posted - 2006.01.26 12:46:00 -
[1751]
Edited by: DB Preacher on 26/01/2006 12:53:31
Originally by: Hrypa Neriansson Excuse me Mr Map maker, I whish to comment on the æBand of Brothers Vs Aridia localsÆ to be reviewed.
I have been basing my operations out of Aridia for the past two months I believe this is invalid since the only people I see are Vertigo Collation and Imperium Alliance patrolling the region, I have not seen these æBand of BrothersÆ anywhere within this region.
Check our kb for confirmation that we are still purging Aridia.
I'll make sure to do an agent locator on you tonight Mr Neriansson but why do I get the feeling I won't find you anywhere near aridia.
There is no need for blatant lies on the map thread, especially when they can be found out within 3 seconds of checking.
thanks, dbp
Current RKK Ranking: (CAL6) Tanto
Drop by and say hi in Reikoku Forums.
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Abdalion

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Posted - 2006.01.26 21:19:00 -
[1752]
Originally by: Sethon
Idea: Could we perhaps get a post from ISD in this thread with Alliance > Designated Poster to avoid confusion.
Sethon, your post is noted about the two posters.
All,
It isn't necessary to have any form of official designation as to who can post. Just make sure whoever posts from your respective alliances does so in a uniform manner, without conflicts.
Many posts were deleted from different parties requesting different things within the same alliance. This is redundant information, and if I see it, I will delete it with a message to make contact with the mapmaker in-game. If it continues past that, warnings will be sent for off-topic.
As stated repeatedly, this map thread is a community resource, and should be maintained as a place for main corp/alliance characters to request their piece of the pie to be considered.
Originally by: Sethon Stella Nova United has 2 people with authority to post here. Myself and John Blackthorn. If you wish us to reduce that to 1, then I will be the one to make posts here.
It would also greatly assist if Mr. Blackthorn would show his corp and alliance tag on the forums  ---
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Klakaitoa
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Posted - 2006.01.27 12:49:00 -
[1753]
Originally by: Edge1 Someone should knock up a little animated thing, so you can see how the regions have changed hands over the years.
I saw this on EVE-Fanfest on Island. It was made by one of the lead game designers. Maybe he can upload it for the community ? 
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Parity
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Posted - 2006.01.27 16:25:00 -
[1754]
Venal = FIVE space???
I C manytimes in forums five say that they don't claim any space... Am i wrong here and if so make only H-PA 5 space not the hole venal thats mostly empty...
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CaptainCrunch
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Posted - 2006.01.27 23:15:00 -
[1755]
Originally by: Parity Venal = FIVE space???
I C manytimes in forums five say that they don't claim any space... Am i wrong here and if so make only H-PA 5 space not the hole venal thats mostly empty...
2006.01.27 23:11 The scumsucker Parity is located at Esa VIII - Moon 2 - Viziam Warehouse station in the Peges constellation of Tash-Murkon region.
An amazing knowledge of Venal you have from Esa.
Please dont get into things that do not involve you at the other side of the map as im sure thats against the rules of this thread.
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Orc A
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Posted - 2006.01.28 02:48:00 -
[1756]
Also, for those who haven't noticed, Kaos isnt present in Catch/Querious anymore.
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Orc A
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Posted - 2006.01.28 02:48:00 -
[1757]
Fix No longers owns any stations in the Catch region.
The cleansing continues...
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Tadis
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Posted - 2006.01.29 06:57:00 -
[1758]
FAT station is at the time of writing this post, under SA/Huzzah control.
However it is still contested by Fix forces.
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Hithero Wolf
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Posted - 2006.01.29 11:28:00 -
[1759]
Originally by: Tadis FAT station is at the time of writing this post, under SA/Huzzah control.
However it is still contested by Fix forces.
how can it be contested when you take down a pos? If you had use that 80ppl gang to try take out SA pos or something d agree with you but when that gang was used to cover for the takedown of one f your own pos, its not contested.
Atleast for me contesting an area is not just saying it, it is also backing it up with action and your not.
Sincerly Hithero Wolf
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Abdalion

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Posted - 2006.01.29 20:28:00 -
[1760]
Originally by: krendos
He's just using propaganda Hith.
STOP. No more junk in this thread. Send evemail, smoke signals, post drivel on your own forums or alliance chat. ---
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Shinnen
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Posted - 2006.01.29 22:43:00 -
[1761]
Scalding Pass - V Upper Detorid - CHIMP Lower Detorid - LV ---
INFOD |

MakkAnzy
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Posted - 2006.01.29 23:44:00 -
[1762]
Originally by: CaptainCrunch
Originally by: Parity Venal = FIVE space???
2006.01.27 23:11 The scumsucker Parity is located at Esa VIII - Moon 2 - Viziam Warehouse station in the Peges constellation of Tash-Murkon region.
An amazing knowledge of Venal you have from Esa.
Please dont get into things that do not involve you at the other side of the map as im sure thats against the rules of this thread.
The only space the Atuk holds is safespots, Venal is hardly contested by the Five let alone claimable.
Not a discussion thread I disagree when posts like the quoted is left up.
Think I will go camp a moon in Fountain and claim that!
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Emily Black
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Posted - 2006.01.30 07:14:00 -
[1763]
Catch: Uncontested SA/Huzzah Q: should be changed to BOB since Fix sure isn't the one defeding it
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thedragoon
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Posted - 2006.01.30 16:26:00 -
[1764]
Burn eden is now contestiong The Big Blue space
What have we killed today - Burn Eden Kill Board
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Hast
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Posted - 2006.01.30 17:05:00 -
[1765]
Edited by: Hast on 30/01/2006 17:06:24
Give miners a log off timer
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Dianabolic
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Posted - 2006.01.30 18:24:00 -
[1766]
Originally by: Emily Black Catch: Uncontested SA/Huzzah Q: should be changed to BOB since Fix sure isn't the one defeding it
BoB recognise FIX sovereignty in Querious, we are not the dominant force there.
Originally by: Thomas Jefferson A society that will trade a little liberty for a little security will lose both and deserve neither.
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Sethon
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Posted - 2006.01.30 22:05:00 -
[1767]
[Official Announcement]
Stella Nova United wishes to ask the map maker to change ownership of SOUTH Geminate from FE to SNU. The link below shows the area we control, and now wish to claim:
SNU MAP
Stella Nova United also wishes to CONTEST the area of Geminate between the borders of: 39-DGG north up to 9P40-F east, 13 systems total.
Anyone living in South Geminate would agree FE has not been here in force for months, and that SNU are the true owners of Geminate. SNU, on Jan. 27th, attacked the last FE pos in the area detailed in the map above, and got it to reinforced mode. The corp was removed from FE, and last night (Jan 29 to Jan 30) SNU forces destroyed the POS which was the last remaining enemy pos in our space. The only people who reside here now are SNU, and the in-game map attests to this when "show soverignty" is selected.
Thank-you! Sethon, Chairman Stella Nova United
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Just Collections
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Posted - 2006.01.31 04:22:00 -
[1768]
Originally by: thedragoon Burn eden is now contestiong The Big Blue space
BE Is not contesting BB Space as they don't have the numbers or firepower to takedow out POS network or take on our fleet.
Please ignore him
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thoth foc
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Posted - 2006.01.31 11:38:00 -
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You can remove the war marks between F-E and .5.
--thoth [5], ex-Curse Alliance ex-DSMA
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thedragoon
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Posted - 2006.01.31 12:17:00 -
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Originally by: Just Collections
Originally by: thedragoon Burn eden is now contestiong The Big Blue space
BE Is not contesting BB Space as they don't have the numbers or firepower to takedow out POS network or take on our fleet.
Please ignore him
This is not the case we have over 30 pos's read to be dropped in their space we have there main system on lockdown and the numbers in local fall every day.
We are contesting this space and we will POS them out of it..
Please listen to the director of burn eden and not some silly alt..
BE does also have an active war with BB Burn Eden Kill Board
Bruno Octavius > Are you guys winning up there by the way? Keirin Hanzo > no wer not winning, wer whining |
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DB Preacher
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Posted - 2006.01.31 12:56:00 -
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Originally by: thedragoon
This is not the case we have over 30 pos's read to be dropped in their space
Then come back when this is done and ask for it and I'm sure the whole of eve will agree that 30 pos are expected before you come back in the thread.
dbp
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Seleene
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Posted - 2006.01.31 14:20:00 -
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Is Burn Eden going to form an alliance so they can properly claim sovereignty with thier 30 POS's? -
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Just Collections
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Posted - 2006.01.31 17:20:00 -
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Originally by: Seleene Is Burn Eden going to form an alliance so they can properly claim sovereignty with thier 30 POS's?
I doubt it, they can't even win a war
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thedragoon
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Posted - 2006.02.01 01:14:00 -
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Originally by: Seleene Is Burn Eden going to form an alliance so they can properly claim sovereignty with thier 30 POS's?
We have an alliance in place to take the space as stated in another thread. 
so yes we still however have alot of work and our allies are making the way to this space as we speak...
Burn Eden Kill Board
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Joshua Foiritain
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Posted - 2006.02.01 13:35:00 -
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Originally by: thedragoon Burn eden is now contestiong The Big Blue space
Slighty problem, Big Blue doesnt actually claim any space on the map. -------
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Lizz Litebeer
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Posted - 2006.02.01 16:20:00 -
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Originally by: Joshua Foiritain
Originally by: thedragoon Burn eden is now contestiong The Big Blue space
Slighty problem, Big Blue doesnt actually claim any space on the map.
Thedragons brain doesn't stretch that far, as i said before
BE are just randomly ganking our members and have not as yet done any damage worth mentioning
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Pastora
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Posted - 2006.02.02 14:20:00 -
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Originally by: Shinnen Scalding Pass - V Upper Detorid - CHIMP Lower Detorid - LV
Great Wildlands - RED _______________________________________________ If ifs and ands were pots and pans, I would grow mushrooms in my pants. |

DjDangle
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Posted - 2006.02.02 15:21:00 -
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Originally by: Pastora
Originally by: Shinnen Scalding Pass - V Upper Detorid - CHIMP Lower Detorid - LV
Great Wildlands - RED
  
Wait, that was a joke right?
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Pastora
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Posted - 2006.02.02 16:00:00 -
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Originally by: DjDangle
Originally by: Pastora
Originally by: Shinnen Scalding Pass - V Upper Detorid - CHIMP Lower Detorid - LV
Great Wildlands - RED
  
Wait, that was a joke right?
As much as the original one. =) _______________________________________________ If ifs and ands were pots and pans, I would grow mushrooms in my pants. |

Aeon Yakati
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Posted - 2006.02.02 16:14:00 -
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Originally by: Pastora
Originally by: Shinnen Scalding Pass - V Upper Detorid - CHIMP Lower Detorid - LV
Great Wildlands - RED
Shinnen is not a -V- official. If there's any change to the claims as shown on the map, expect to hear so from HH or LD directly.
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Shinnen
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Posted - 2006.02.02 18:28:00 -
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Originally by: Aeon Yakati
Originally by: Pastora
Originally by: Shinnen Scalding Pass - V Upper Detorid - CHIMP Lower Detorid - LV
Great Wildlands - RED
Shinnen is not a -V- official. If there's any change to the claims as shown on the map, expect to hear so from HH or LD directly.

lol im sorry, I was only messing around being a fool :) ---
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Boonaki
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Posted - 2006.02.02 19:10:00 -
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Edited by: Boonaki on 02/02/2006 19:10:08 I think...
#5 can be changed to FIX, BoB, Trible Souls, Exo, people that I forgot, and friends vs SA
#6 can add the anti SA collition to that marker.
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pershphanie
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Posted - 2006.02.02 21:04:00 -
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Originally by: thoth foc You can remove the war marks between F-E and .5.
confirmed.
also perhaps a road kill icon is appropriate over venal tenal and branch.
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Angry Dan
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Posted - 2006.02.03 01:01:00 -
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Huzzah Federation now hold 2 stations in Catch. V2-VC2 has been held for a few weeks now, and 5-N2EY are solidly Huzzah Federation space.
FAT-6P is more complex. Right now, SA holds it, but that is not confirmed.
Huzzah Federation has declared neutrality in the SA VS BoB & the "weeee everyone lets pile on war". We have a NAP with BoB and FiX, and we expect it to hold. We still maintain good relations to SA, but we are not assisting them in this war.
Pirates are making regular raids in lower Providence. Even though they had been camping the HED-GP pipe for some time prior to this, and are for the most part ex FiX corps, there sudden appearance is totally unconnected with the FiX war. It must be a coincidence that they suddenly started jumping into Providence instead of Catch. Maybe the sign to DSS got whacked the other day, I just don't know.
/me hides crayons
So, in summary, a pirate infestation marker is probably warranted around HED-GP/lower Providence. Huzzah Federation holds 2 stations, but those pesky, "omg we are so not fix" ex fixians are proving a might troublesome to shift. Next week, we try soap. I'm not privy to Stain intel, so I cannot confirm or deny any comments regarding that. ++++++++++++++++++++ Founder member of the Huzzah Federation. Remember, the grass is greener on our side of the fence Widowmakers director Fear my kneepads of allure!
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Joshua Foiritain
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Posted - 2006.02.04 17:23:00 -
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Note to self; Double check backups before formatting. Fonts are important  Managed to rretrieve most, at least all of the map related ones 
Anyhow sooo; Map updated, think ive got everything covered lemme know if missed something/screwed something up. -------
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spookz
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Posted - 2006.02.04 18:58:00 -
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5 occupy H-PA only (in venal), I still don't get why the map shows them controlling all of venal when the majority of this region is occupied by PA.
No doubt this will be ignored again.
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Stulmar Eskanti
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Posted - 2006.02.04 19:38:00 -
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Edited by: Stulmar Eskanti on 04/02/2006 19:42:04 Oh a new update and no change for Venal although the mods themselves asked u to do something about it since yer last update started flaiming here.
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TornSoul
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Posted - 2006.02.05 06:36:00 -
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Originally by: Joshua Foiritain Contesting a Region that has NPC stations takes a lot more time because of this, it will take an even longer time to get it uncontested. Coming down to take a look (If ive got the time) can speed things up.
I suggest you take a week or so off, or however much you deem necessary, and spend that time in Outer Ring and Fountain.
The current map doesnt reflect the situation in either of those regions (and hasnt for a long time - shrug)
I dont know what kind of 'meassure' you use - But how about "Who are you most likely to run into, (and potentially) get shot at by, the majority of the time"
I'll let you be the judge of what to put in place of the current.
But change is needed.
(Please note, that although my alliance affiliation more or less gives away in what direction I would prefer the change, I have not impossed this on you or anyone else - But simply invited you to come take a look yourself. This is as much a note for all the would-be flamers - Save it!)
BIG Lottery
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TWD
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Posted - 2006.02.05 09:33:00 -
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Originally by: TornSoul
Originally by: Joshua Foiritain Contesting a Region that has NPC stations takes a lot more time because of this, it will take an even longer time to get it uncontested. Coming down to take a look (If ive got the time) can speed things up.
I suggest you take a week or so off, or however much you deem necessary, and spend that time in Outer Ring and Fountain.
The current map doesnt reflect the situation in either of those regions (and hasnt for a long time - shrug)
I dont know what kind of 'meassure' you use - But how about "Who are you most likely to run into, (and potentially) get shot at by, the majority of the time"
I'll let you be the judge of what to put in place of the current.
But change is needed.
(Please note, that although my alliance affiliation more or less gives away in what direction I would prefer the change, I have not impossed this on you or anyone else - But simply invited you to come take a look yourself. This is as much a note for all the would-be flamers - Save it!)
This is about territorial control. We can enforce the claim, while others cannot. An example for this can be found here |

Rover Vitesse
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Posted - 2006.02.05 11:16:00 -
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Immensea is now warzone between Southern Border Alliance and CHIMP/LV. Chimaera Pact Minister For Propaganda Rovers Chronicles
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Sergio Ling
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Posted - 2006.02.05 14:48:00 -
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really appreciate this map btw Joshua - ego ftw.
as to marker #2 in upper providence:
with TSDS leaving over a month ago, and KROM finding new challenges elsewhere, it has calmed down a lot, and the space is now held jointly between three friendly alliances: CORVD, UNITY, and -M-.
There are still pirates (mainly W1N NWDR and Elliot Manchild) but it's a lot more stable, sovreignty is held by the three friendly factions stated above, and there's a safety network in place for neutrals to approach the area ____________________________ Malthros Zenobia Says - You: , Us:
You volunteered... (but i love you) - Wrangler [red]Wrangler loves me yay -Sergio[/red |

Cpt Pugwash
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Posted - 2006.02.05 16:29:00 -
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Originally by: TWD
Originally by: TornSoul
Originally by: Joshua Foiritain Contesting a Region that has NPC stations takes a lot more time because of this, it will take an even longer time to get it uncontested. Coming down to take a look (If ive got the time) can speed things up.
I suggest you take a week or so off, or however much you deem necessary, and spend that time in Outer Ring and Fountain.
The current map doesnt reflect the situation in either of those regions (and hasnt for a long time - shrug)
I dont know what kind of 'meassure' you use - But how about "Who are you most likely to run into, (and potentially) get shot at by, the majority of the time"
I'll let you be the judge of what to put in place of the current.
But change is needed.
(Please note, that although my alliance affiliation more or less gives away in what direction I would prefer the change, I have not impossed this on you or anyone else - But simply invited you to come take a look yourself. This is as much a note for all the would-be flamers - Save it!)
This is about territorial control. We can enforce the claim, while others cannot. An example for this can be found here
Blobbing a system once a month does not constitute control
Bob lost their last sovereinghty claiming POS to VC/IMP and have not dared to put one back as they know they do not have the manpower to defend it.
Bob are overstretched and incapable of controlling Fountain.
At best you deserve a pirate marker for the occasional raid on Fountain space
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Righteous Fury
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Posted - 2006.02.05 16:41:00 -
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Originally by: Cpt Pugwash Blobbing a system once a month does not constitute control
Bob lost their last sovereinghty claiming POS to VC/IMP and have not dared to put one back as they know they do not have the manpower to defend it.
Bob are overstretched and incapable of controlling Fountain.
At best you deserve a pirate marker for the occasional raid on Fountain space
Pugwash, you have no place to comment on Fountain considering your corp has abandoned Fountain and is now based out of 37S-KO in Stain.
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Tadis
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Posted - 2006.02.05 17:57:00 -
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FAT now Fix ownership.
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Dianabolic
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Posted - 2006.02.05 18:34:00 -
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Originally by: Cpt Pugwash Bob lost their last sovereinghty claiming POS to VC/IMP and have not dared to put one back as they know they do not have the manpower to defend it.
2 things:
1 - It was a military pos that was never meant to stay there as long as it did - I'd have preferred to take it down myself, but you taking down an unarmed pos hardly constitutes your chest beating.
2 - It's quite easy for anyone to check the soverignty map and see BoB claiming pos's in fountain, so you're either lieing (easy to spot) or don't have the first idea of what is in fountain, becuase you're not there - and therefor have no right to comment in this thread.
Originally by: Thomas Jefferson A society that will trade a little liberty for a little security will lose both and deserve neither
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TornSoul
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Posted - 2006.02.05 18:35:00 -
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Originally by: TWD
This is about territorial control. We can enforce the claim, while others cannot. An example for this can be found here
If destroying a POS is all it takes - Then we (FA) has exactly the same claim. The only difference beeing that we dont make a post on the forums each time we nuke a POS in Fountain.
And what Cpt Pugwash says about BoB presense is actually pretty much the truth.
But again - As stated in my initial post, let Joshua come have a look for himself.
The lot of us getting into an argument here isnt going to change a thing, and will only lead to some mod cleaining.
Which is .excactly. why I left out any 'fingerpointing' in my initial post.
BIG Lottery
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Dell
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Posted - 2006.02.05 18:50:00 -
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i saw a member of black sun in NOL-M9 yesterday their for they should claim delve
BoB Killboard
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TWD
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Posted - 2006.02.05 19:00:00 -
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Originally by: TornSoul
If destroying a POS is all it takes - Then we (FA) has exactly the same claim. The only difference beeing that we dont make a post on the forums each time we nuke a POS in Fountain.
And what Cpt Pugwash says about BoB presense is actually pretty much the truth.
But again - As stated in my initial post, let Joshua come have a look for himself.
The lot of us getting into an argument here isnt going to change a thing, and will only lead to some mod cleaining.
Which is .excactly. why I left out any 'fingerpointing' in my initial post.
There have been no succesful attempts to take down any of our POS that is online and is defended by structures. When you put up a POS, we are able to take it down and from past experiences you are not able to get a fleet together to defend it. That is the main difference. We have people living in the Fountain and exploiting its resources. When there is a hostile fleet in Fountain threatening our sovereignty they will get a response from us. That is why we control the region. |

TornSoul
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Posted - 2006.02.05 20:03:00 -
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Originally by: TWD
Originally by: TornSoul
If destroying a POS is all it takes - Then we (FA) has exactly the same claim. The only difference beeing that we dont make a post on the forums each time we nuke a POS in Fountain.
And what Cpt Pugwash says about BoB presense is actually pretty much the truth.
But again - As stated in my initial post, let Joshua come have a look for himself.
The lot of us getting into an argument here isnt going to change a thing, and will only lead to some mod cleaining.
Which is .excactly. why I left out any 'fingerpointing' in my initial post.
There have been no succesful attempts to take down any of our POS that is online and is defended by structures.
I could say the same for any number of corps in FA/VC etc - But as I dont have the details for each and every one of them - I'll leave out the corp names.
Not to mention... Where excactly are the BoB POS's in say Fountain... In core or some dead end arm noone really gives a toss about anyhow... (at least not enough to bother with pulling them down - yet...)
Originally by: TWD
When you put up a POS, we are able to take it down and from past experiences you are not able to get a fleet together to defend it.
It's matter of choice if you want to defend it or not aint it? As with the BoB POS that got nuked.... The endless excuses for that one are getting boring. Kettle meet pot.
Originally by: TWD
That is the main difference. We have people living in the Fountain and exploiting its resources.
As do FA, as do VC as do... BoB pilots .living. in Fountiain & Outer Ring are .vastly. outnumbered by non-BoB pilots.
Originally by: TWD
When there is a hostile fleet in Fountain threatening our sovereignty they will get a response from us.
We probably have differing opinions on what "threatening our sovereignty" means excactly... But the fact is - Fountain & Outer Ring is .steaming. with forces hostile to BoB&Friends (see furthermore above about numbers)
Originally by: TWD
That is why we control the region.
As pugwash said - Your so called 'control' is limited to 'once a month'. Doing 'raids' is not control.
Its more like the anthics of a GF that one time a month... Theres a few days you have to be carefull what you say and do - The rest of the time... well...
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This will be my last post on this. I sadly see myself pulled into excactly the discussion I wanted to avoid in the first place.
I see that no amount of sound reasoning and bringing facts to the table can burst the bubble that BoB lives in (with regards to Fountain & Outer Ring).
Enjoy your bubble.
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DB Preacher
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Posted - 2006.02.05 20:12:00 -
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Josh, anytime you want to drop by Fountain, please do not hesitate to do so.
Tornsoul: Until you can pull together any sort of forces to challenge our claim, please refrain from spilling onto this thread after every update when nothing has changed.
We maintain our control on fountain but ofc there are random pirate forces running around which are already represented by the warzone on the map.
Thanks, dbp
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KeyboardMasher
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Posted - 2006.02.05 22:08:00 -
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Originally by: TornSoul
Originally by: TWD
This is about territorial control. We can enforce the claim, while others cannot. An example for this can be found here
If destroying a POS is all it takes - Then we (FA) has exactly the same claim. The only difference beeing that we dont make a post on the forums each time we nuke a POS in Fountain.
And what Cpt Pugwash says about BoB presense is actually pretty much the truth.
But again - As stated in my initial post, let Joshua come have a look for himself.
The lot of us getting into an argument here isnt going to change a thing, and will only lead to some mod cleaining.
Which is .excactly. why I left out any 'fingerpointing' in my initial post.
you killed an offline pos and now control fountain?
tbh, you need to stop living in the past and get on with it. I mean, you still carry the fountain alliance tag. I'd have thought the denial phase would have ended by now....
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Joshua Foiritain
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Posted - 2006.02.05 22:20:00 -
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Anyone have a helios + Cov ops cloak + 3 nanofibers for sale in YZ-LQL? Otherwise ill have to drop by empire first. -------
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Dell
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Posted - 2006.02.05 22:55:00 -
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Edited by: Dell on 05/02/2006 22:58:59 TornSoul if you or any other force wish to take control of fountain then gather a force bring it down and try and take it back until then please stop with your "Corporation, Alliance and Organization Discussions" everytime a new map comes out, its boring, you bore me and everyone else who reads your posts, infact you should be banned from posting in "Corporations and Alliances Summit" being as u dont actually have an alliance anymore bar game mechanics
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Komolov
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Posted - 2006.02.05 23:31:00 -
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Originally by: DjDangle
Originally by: Pastora
Originally by: Shinnen Scalding Pass - V Upper Detorid - CHIMP Lower Detorid - LV
Great Wildlands - RED
  
Wait, that was a joke right?
You meant Shinnen's post, right?
The fact you're living in one system doesn't mean you own region, isn't it?
Since -V-'s leadership repeatedly denied long term intentions to claim Scalding Pass so this region is not even contested. 
And don't forget to pray your gods daily they created only 5 moons in 1V-. 
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DjDangle
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Posted - 2006.02.05 23:50:00 -
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Originally by: Komolov
Originally by: DjDangle
Originally by: Pastora
Originally by: Shinnen Scalding Pass - V Upper Detorid - CHIMP Lower Detorid - LV
Great Wildlands - RED
  
Wait, that was a joke right?
You meant Shinnen's post, right?
The fact you're living in one system doesn't mean you own region, isn't it?
Since -V-'s leadership repeatedly denied long term intentions to claim Scalding Pass so this region is not even contested. 
And don't forget to pray your gods daily they created only 5 moons in 1V-. 
Afaik it's plain to see you do not control Scalding Pass. I would go as far to say you are not there enough to even contest it.
As for V's plans. Any updates/announcements will be made by an official V spokesperson and I have no intention of talking about them here.
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Komolov
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Posted - 2006.02.05 23:58:00 -
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Edited by: Komolov on 05/02/2006 23:59:40 afaik YOU do not control Scalding Pass. Miners are mining, hunters are hunting. Everyone ignores poor -V-. 
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Xaarist
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Posted - 2006.02.06 08:13:00 -
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You may check the borders of Detorid Joshua, since they are not correct in your map. LV claimed space should be extended to the north including the pipe to insmother and CHIMP space as shown on the map does not reach immensea borders. additional there is missing something at the border to wicked creek. just a blemish, you may change it if you don't have better things to do.
and for the RA guy in the thread: the only thing that's ignoring the enemy presence in scalding seems to be your killboard. ---------------- (\_/) (O.o) (> <) This is an alien dressed as Bunny to secretly gain world domination. |

DjDangle
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Posted - 2006.02.06 09:50:00 -
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Edited by: DjDangle on 06/02/2006 09:52:57 Joshua - I'm confused, the latest map has been changed from the one on the 04.02.108 regarding The Southern situation and is now not accurate? The 04.02.108 is more accurate tho.
EDIT: Sorry ignore me, I was looking at the old cached map. Nubbins.
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Shivaja
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Posted - 2006.02.06 11:12:00 -
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Ownership of region is by all means defined by those who live and defend the space against intrudes and hostiles on daily basis not by those who come once in 2 month with big force and shoot everithing that moves an are gone afret 4 days. that is in my eyes piracy not ownership of region so there fore u got the map for Outer Ring wrong for few months. 
Shivaja CHON CEO NORAD Military Commander NORAD Kill Board
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DB Preacher
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Posted - 2006.02.06 12:19:00 -
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Originally by: Shivaja Ownership of region is by all means defined by those who live and defend the space against intrudes and hostiles on daily basis not by those who come once in 2 month with big force and shoot everithing that moves an are gone afret 4 days. that is in my eyes piracy not ownership of region so there fore u got the map for Outer Ring wrong for few months. 
Shivaja CHON CEO NORAD Military Commander
Do NORAD want to officially contest Outer Ring?
A simple Yes or No will suffice.
dbp
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Shivaja
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Posted - 2006.02.06 13:14:00 -
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No we dont want contestit. Outr Ring always was, is and will be NORAD teritory why can u get this stright guys and your fleet field trips up here newer gona change that u dont live here.
Shivaja Queen of Outer Ring CHON ceo NORAD Military Commander NORAD Kill Board
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DB Preacher
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Posted - 2006.02.06 13:22:00 -
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Originally by: Shivaja No we dont want contestit. Outr Ring always was, is and will be NORAD teritory why can u get this stright guys and your fleet field trips up here newer gona change that u dont live here.
Shivaja Queen of Outer Ring CHON ceo NORAD Military Commander
It is under our control from when we removed yourselves and IMP from the area. It is highlighted on the map as such. If you want to take it back from us then you need to contest it in accordance with the rules stated above by the moderators and Josh.
dbp
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Justus Imperius
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Posted - 2006.02.06 13:46:00 -
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Edited by: Justus Imperius on 06/02/2006 13:47:45 nvm
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Shivaja
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Posted - 2006.02.06 13:58:00 -
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Originally by: DB Preacher
Originally by: Shivaja No we dont want contestit. Outr Ring always was, is and will be NORAD teritory why can u get this stright guys and your fleet field trips up here newer gona change that u dont live here.
Shivaja Queen of Outer Ring CHON ceo NORAD Military Commander
It is under our control from when we removed yourselves and IMP from the area. It is highlighted on the map as such. If you want to take it back from us then you need to contest it in accordance with the rules stated above by the moderators and Josh.
dbp
well i done it i send lots of eve mails to map maker nothing change no single response i gues something smels fishy here mabey he is BOB alt thats why they hold such big area on map without changes reflecting the actual situation of the area.
Shivaja CHON ceo NORAD Military Commander NORAD Kill Board
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DB Preacher
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Posted - 2006.02.06 14:12:00 -
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Edited by: DB Preacher on 06/02/2006 14:13:31
Originally by: Shivaja
well i done it i send lots of eve mails to map maker nothing change no single response i gues something smels fishy here mabey he is BOB alt thats why they hold such big area on map without changes reflecting the actual situation of the area.
Shivaja CHON ceo NORAD Military Commander
Putting forward conspiracy theories benefit no-one, everything BoB does is publically put forward on this thread backed up with factual evidence to support our claims.
But when we wish to claim/contest somewhere we generally take over the area then state on this thread clearly and without fluff.
If NORAD wish to contest the Outer Ring area from BoB's current control (as it is stated on the map) then all you need to do is move forces into the area in accordance with what Josh has directed above and state here clearly that you wish to contest it from us.
dbp
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Shivaja
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Posted - 2006.02.06 14:18:00 -
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Originally by: DB Preacher Edited by: DB Preacher on 06/02/2006 14:13:31
Originally by: Shivaja
well i done it i send lots of eve mails to map maker nothing change no single response i gues something smels fishy here mabey he is BOB alt thats why they hold such big area on map without changes reflecting the actual situation of the area.
Shivaja CHON ceo NORAD Military Commander
Putting forward conspiracy theories benefit no-one, everything BoB does is publically put forward on this thread backed up with factual evidence to support our claims.
But when we wish to claim/contest somewhere we generally take over the area then state on this thread clearly and without fluff.
If NORAD wish to contest the Outer Ring area from BoB's current control (as it is stated on the map) then all you need to do is move forces into the area in accordance with what Josh has directed above and state here clearly that you wish to contest it from us.
dbp
Well we doing it on daily basis by living in Outer Ring u dont !
Shivaja CHON ceo NORAD Military Commander
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John Blackthorn
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Posted - 2006.02.06 14:48:00 -
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Joshua,
I would like request that you update the map to show the lower Gemni system o-v to atioth as Stella Nova United Territory. While the war marker is appreciated it is just not correct. The lower area is controled, owned and defeded by SNU. We have no claim nor desire of the FDZ and upper region of Gemni.
The maps have shown F-E own and control the area for quite some time, and it's just not correct. They are not fighting us, they never have. They are up north yes, but we have been here quite a while now. If you get a chance drive through the area.
The only incursions is when the mercs strole through the area every few days. As soon as we send a few fighters in there direction they log, save spot or run for empire.
If you would like confirm of what I say talk to 4S (Shone, Bladze), Talk to Big Blue, or I can let you conact any othe other SNU ceo/members (Seth, Elkcon, Modune, Freakazoid)
-John
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Dianabolic
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Posted - 2006.02.06 15:00:00 -
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Originally by: Shivaja
Originally by: DB Preacher Edited by: DB Preacher on 06/02/2006 14:13:31
Originally by: Shivaja
well i done it i send lots of eve mails to map maker nothing change no single response i gues something smels fishy here mabey he is BOB alt thats why they hold such big area on map without changes reflecting the actual situation of the area.
Shivaja CHON ceo NORAD Military Commander
Putting forward conspiracy theories benefit no-one, everything BoB does is publically put forward on this thread backed up with factual evidence to support our claims.
But when we wish to claim/contest somewhere we generally take over the area then state on this thread clearly and without fluff.
If NORAD wish to contest the Outer Ring area from BoB's current control (as it is stated on the map) then all you need to do is move forces into the area in accordance with what Josh has directed above and state here clearly that you wish to contest it from us.
dbp
Well we doing it on daily basis by living in Outer Ring u dont !
Just say "yes, we want to contest it" Shivaja, as per the RULE OF THIS THREAD.
You will then receive an official bob response, rather than just *****ing around, ok?
Originally by: Thomas Jefferson A society that will trade a little liberty for a little security will lose both and deserve neither
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Shivaja
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Posted - 2006.02.06 15:38:00 -
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Originally by: Dianabolic
Originally by: Shivaja
Originally by: DB Preacher Edited by: DB Preacher on 06/02/2006 14:13:31
Originally by: Shivaja
well i done it i send lots of eve mails to map maker nothing change no single response i gues something smels fishy here mabey he is BOB alt thats why they hold such big area on map without changes reflecting the actual situation of the area.
Shivaja CHON ceo NORAD Military Commander
Putting forward conspiracy theories benefit no-one, everything BoB does is publically put forward on this thread backed up with factual evidence to support our claims.
But when we wish to claim/contest somewhere we generally take over the area then state on this thread clearly and without fluff.
If NORAD wish to contest the Outer Ring area from BoB's current control (as it is stated on the map) then all you need to do is move forces into the area in accordance with what Josh has directed above and state here clearly that you wish to contest it from us.
dbp
Well we doing it on daily basis by living in Outer Ring u dont !
Just say "yes, we want to contest it" Shivaja, as per the RULE OF THIS THREAD.
You will then receive an official bob response, rather than just *****ing around, ok?
If yes means there will be contest butom on map then 'YES' becouse we alredy contest u anyway 
Shivaja CHON ceo NORAD Military Commander NORAD Kill Board
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Dianabolic
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Posted - 2006.02.06 16:04:00 -
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Originally by: Shivaja ...'YES'...
I snipped the utter flannel from your post, and your alliance wonders why we get bored of dealing with you? Try just cutting the rubbish every now and then and getting to the point?
You'll have your answer shortly.
Originally by: Thomas Jefferson A society that will trade a little liberty for a little security will lose both and deserve neither
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Serendipity007
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Posted - 2006.02.06 16:38:00 -
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Edited by: Serendipity007 on 06/02/2006 16:38:37 I see the Syndicate Region as "Infested with Pirates". What exactly does this mean, and how much change would we need to effect to get that little footnote off the map?
My corp operates out of the Syndicate region BTW. ___________________________________________________ "I'm an engineer, not a miracle worker!" - Scotty, Star Trek: The Original Series |

DB Preacher
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Posted - 2006.02.06 17:01:00 -
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Originally by: Shivaja
If yes means there will be contest butom on map then 'YES' becouse we alredy contest u anyway 
Thank you, now that wasn't difficult was it.
We agree that this area should be contested because you are actually contesting it in-game with fleets and not just on the forums... unlike some other alliances.
dbp
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munchy
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Posted - 2006.02.07 00:32:00 -
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Edited by: munchy on 07/02/2006 00:32:13 v control 1 station in scalding pass, and thats only because it only has 5 moons in system. how does controlling 1 station count as holding a whole region?
im not saying that RA control it, but im saying its contested.
also, GW should be a warzone at the least, we have frequent skirmishes in n-rael and surrounding areas, and i know for a fact that a number of ra pilots hunt and operate in and around e02. ---
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Wendat Huron
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Posted - 2006.02.07 05:50:00 -
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Who are the CCC and the SBA?
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zcinner
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Posted - 2006.02.07 06:42:00 -
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Josusha SBA is contested now i think.. and please but C-F X13 and OC in our lil hole :)
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DjDangle
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Posted - 2006.02.07 10:15:00 -
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Occasional ganks into an area by a max of 3 or 4 pilots does not constitute a warzone marker. But what the hell, go for it.
As for scalding pass, according to the map we only control part of it, not the whole region. Nuff said.
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genocide holder
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Posted - 2006.02.07 14:18:00 -
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Originally by: DB Preacher Edited by: DB Preacher on 06/02/2006 17:10:16
Originally by: Shivaja
If yes means there will be contest butom on map then 'YES' becouse we alredy contest u anyway 
Thank you, now that wasn't difficult was it.
We agree that this area should be contested because you are actually contesting it, in-game, with fleets and not just on the forums... unlike some other alliances.
dbp
i think what norad dude trys to tell u is that if u claim a part of space u have to occupy it. what i see bob do is take a region and go on to the next. bob leaves the region to the locals and those are left alone again. thats not actualy suporting ur claim is it.
becouse bob takes so many regoins and is active over a big part of space they lose grip of whats actualy going on in the regons. they rely on the map to suply them with activitys. this is not realy the way it should work. the map should rely on the region holders to suply the info. like as in norad does now.
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Hoshi
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Posted - 2006.02.07 14:48:00 -
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Originally by: Wendat Huron Who are the CCC and the SBA?
CCC is Commonwealth Alliance SBA is Southern Border Alliance.
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DB Preacher
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Posted - 2006.02.07 16:14:00 -
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Originally by: genocide holder
i think what norad dude trys to tell u is that if u claim a part of space u have to occupy it. what i see bob do is take a region and go on to the next. bob leaves the region to the locals and those are left alone again. thats not actualy suporting ur claim is it.
becouse bob takes so many regoins and is active over a big part of space they lose grip of whats actualy going on in the regons. they rely on the map to suply them with activitys. this is not realy the way it should work. the map should rely on the region holders to suply the info. like as in norad does now.
Please do not entice flames in this thread mr n00b alt.
dbp
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YodaMasterJedi
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Posted - 2006.02.07 21:25:00 -
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i am not an alt. i have wasted 3 mins of my life reading your childish arguing.
both of you need to grow up.
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dralid
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Posted - 2006.02.08 08:50:00 -
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Nice work Joshua, is it possible to make a mirror somewehre else, as my work's firewall blocks eve-files website :( -- All lies! |

Equin
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Posted - 2006.02.08 13:49:00 -
[1832]
Edited by: Equin on 08/02/2006 13:53:28 Please remove CCC's claim on jzv-06: We moved out or will move out of that area soon, and we certainly don't claim it anymore. I believe it's a warzone now, with IAC and CC fighting over the space. Not to mention some pirate corporations and BoB guys that show up from time to time. (no idea what they want) - don't quote me on all that though :) ------------- If you're interested in joining a great PvP geared 0.0 corporation, try this one. linkage |

Raid
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Posted - 2006.02.08 14:31:00 -
[1833]
Originally by: Equin don't quote me on all that though :)
Yes please dont quote him on all that. Thanks
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Equin
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Posted - 2006.02.08 16:08:00 -
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Edited by: Equin on 08/02/2006 16:08:56 Hmm, care to explain yourself Raid? I have heard of some CC vs IAC battles :) ------------- If you're interested in joining a great PvP geared 0.0 corporation, try this one. linkage |

Malicious Wraith
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Posted - 2006.02.08 21:11:00 -
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*hrmmhrmm*
I believe that tribute should be listed as F-E v NBSI at the least, because there are many gangs are send into there to attack ^.^
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pershphanie
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Posted - 2006.02.09 03:06:00 -
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Originally by: Malicious Wraith *hrmmhrmm*
I believe that tribute should be listed as F-E v NBSI at the least, because there are many gangs are send into there to attack ^.^
a few frigs running around isnt worth a marker. nbsi's presence isnt noticable in tribute or anywhere else for that matter.
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WETRAIN
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Posted - 2006.02.09 20:41:00 -
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uhm Persh lets be honest, i do think tribute should have a marker and if not tribute then between tribute and tenal atleast, there is fights going on. tbh everyone is in on the kill. - I am the Voice - I am the Eyes -
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zippster smith
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Posted - 2006.02.09 22:45:00 -
[1838]
Frege Alliance has now laid claim to contsellation 34z-r in pureblind
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insuperable
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Posted - 2006.02.09 23:27:00 -
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Originally by: zippster smith Frege Alliance has now laid claim to contsellation 34z-r in pureblind
Dont you mean 304r-z :P
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zippster smith
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Posted - 2006.02.09 23:59:00 -
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yep thats the one :)
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Edge1
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Posted - 2006.02.10 12:17:00 -
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Edited by: Edge1 on 10/02/2006 12:17:30 Edited by: Edge1 on 10/02/2006 12:17:12 I just knocked this together during Dt, I hope mr map maker doesnt mind.
Fighting for control
Its an easy way to see how the regions have been changing hands since July.
If people are interested, then I will try to do the same with the older maps too.
Edge
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Sister 9
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Posted - 2006.02.10 16:08:00 -
[1842]
Sister 9 claims solar system W-RFUO
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Ichabod Crane
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Posted - 2006.02.10 18:09:00 -
[1843]
Originally by: Edge1
I just knocked this together during Dt, I hope mr map maker doesnt mind.
Fighting for control
Its an easy way to see how the regions have been changing hands since July.
If people are interested, then I will try to do the same with the older maps too.
Edge
You couldve done that with an animated gif and it wouldnt have taken 19meg 
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Qualitan
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Posted - 2006.02.10 20:47:00 -
[1844]
Here is a bit better movie of the territory over time.
The framerate is 2 days per second.
Qualitan Quintessential Xelas Alliance
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Edge1
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Posted - 2006.02.10 22:13:00 -
[1845]
Originally by: Ichabod Crane
You couldve done that with an animated gif and it wouldnt have taken 19meg 
Yeah but I dont know **** about gif, so I did what I knew how to do :P
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Daniel Jackson
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Posted - 2006.02.12 19:51:00 -
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Originally by: Qualitan Here is a bit better movie of the territory over time.
The framerate is 2 days per second.
Qualitan Quintessential Xelas Alliance
can you make that in to a differnt format, because quick time, divix, etc wont play it, says its missing files or somthing
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Vishnej
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Posted - 2006.02.12 21:15:00 -
[1847]
Edited by: Vishnej on 12/02/2006 21:19:23
Originally by: Daniel Jackson
Originally by: Qualitan Here is a bit better movie of the territory over time.
The framerate is 2 days per second.
Qualitan Quintessential Xelas Alliance
can you make that in to a differnt format, because quick time, divix, etc wont play it, says its missing files or somthing
Trying to open it makes quicktime alternative crash firefox, however media player classic will open it if I save as just fine.
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Dyvim Tvars
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Posted - 2006.02.12 22:57:00 -
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Edited, thread cleaned- Reminder: This IS NOT a discussion thread nor is it a debating thread. If you cant follow the rules your posting priveleges can and will be removed -Dyvim
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Danton Marcellus
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Posted - 2006.02.13 11:26:00 -
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How come there never are any pending changes? Sure if the pending changes are based on inacture info it will be pulled but there's never been any that I can recall, so why the feature?
Here's the chief input; How about entering actual claims into the map? Factual map sovereignty to be clear beyond the point of assumption. With outspoken claims being shaded and actual painted in a more solid color.
This would mean small areas will shine as enclaves in hostile territory while others still might enjoy a brushover as protectorates of the supposed rulers.
Remind me about The Maze.
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Chowdown
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Posted - 2006.02.13 12:15:00 -
[1850]
By this coming weekend you will be able to label Wicked Creak KOS.
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Joshua Foiritain
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Posted - 2006.02.13 13:46:00 -
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Originally by: Danton Marcellus How come there never are any pending changes? Sure if the pending changes are based on inacture info it will be pulled but there's never been any that I can recall, so why the feature?
Here's the chief input; How about entering actual claims into the map? Factual map sovereignty to be clear beyond the point of assumption. With outspoken claims being shaded and actual painted in a more solid color.
The pending is only really used when ive missed part of an update or something needs correcting but im unable to do it at the time.
Anyhow, Claiming sov on a system is easy and doesnt really mean anything, smuggling a small pos with some fuel into some deep end of the universe doesnt really mean you actually have any form of claim over the system or constellation. -------
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Shin Ra
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Posted - 2006.02.14 12:03:00 -
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I have to say, Stella Nova United are indeed in full control of lower gemenite. Loads of POSs and all that rubbish . FE do not have any presence in the space SNU occupies. They do have ppl elsewhere in gemenite tho. I think SNU deserve full control of their constilations. Deffinatly not contested or a warzone.
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sidthesexist
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Posted - 2006.02.14 12:12:00 -
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Originally by: Chowdown By this coming weekend you will be able to label Wicked Creak KOS.
Wicked Creak 4tw! ________ Shinra
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Shivaja
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Posted - 2006.02.14 13:36:00 -
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OK once again clearly it did not make it into changes Outer Ring shall be marked as contested space betwen NORAD and BOB are clear on that or not
Shivaja CHON ceo NORAD Military Commander NORAD Kill Board
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DB Preacher
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Posted - 2006.02.14 13:38:00 -
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Originally by: Shivaja OK once again clearly it did not make it into changes Outer Ring shall be marked as contested space betwen NORAD and BOB are clear on that or not
Agreed.
dbp
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Edoo
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Posted - 2006.02.14 13:54:00 -
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Josh likes to make his map futuristic, or at least what he things might happen one day you see. Thats why 5 control all of Venal 
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Archonon
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Posted - 2006.02.14 17:06:00 -
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Originally by: sidthesexist
Originally by: Chowdown By this coming weekend you will be able to label Wicked Creak KOS.
Wicked Creak 4tw!
Very usefull answer, have u some visions from the future ? Contested space no more there and between force in presence (i.e no KOS). _______________________ XIII's member in local and all docked in Curse XIII's fleet around -V-'s dread and they called for Blob-jamming-Backup |

Joshua Foiritain
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Posted - 2006.02.14 18:03:00 -
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Originally by: Shivaja OK once again clearly it did not make it into changes Outer Ring shall be marked as contested space betwen NORAD and BOB are clear on that or not
The map hasnt been updated yet actually... -------
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Hardin
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Posted - 2006.02.14 18:50:00 -
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Joshua
Just a quick post to let you know that I think you do a fantatsic job with this map - and successfully managing all those who would see it warped for their own agendas...
Keep up the good work!
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Mang0o
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Posted - 2006.02.14 20:16:00 -
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hello CF merg into x13.. so change our space to x13 plz thx its only a new name
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dralid
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Posted - 2006.02.15 15:42:00 -
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Josh, is there any way you can put the actual (current) map on a mirror, as my work blocks the eve-files website.
Thanks mate, and sorry for the repost, post got deleted in a string of offtopics I guess :) -- All lies! |
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Abdalion

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Posted - 2006.02.16 23:12:00 -
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Originally by: dralid Josh, is there any way you can put the actual (current) map on a mirror, as my work blocks the eve-files website.
Thanks mate, and sorry for the repost, post got deleted in a string of offtopics I guess :)
So you post again?
Send eve-mail. ---
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dralid
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Posted - 2006.02.17 08:38:00 -
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// offtopic : Replied :)
Btw, Number 2, where it says warzone with mutliple corps, it's now under control of Ushra'khan, Corvid and Maelstrom -- All lies! |

Edoo
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Posted - 2006.02.17 11:57:00 -
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Tribute is a warzone come see for yourself or check killboards.
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Shin Ra
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Posted - 2006.02.17 12:05:00 -
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Originally by: Edoo Tribute is a warzone come see for yourself or check killboards.
Yeah deffinatly. Not only does it have PA/NBSI + FE beating seven senses of crap out of eachothers, but there are a bundle of pirate corps: BE, CELES, Biomass, The Kouncil and other ex PA/NBSI corps all fighting the alliances and eachother.
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Elve Sorrow
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Posted - 2006.02.17 14:49:00 -
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Did you just call CELES pirates?
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Shin Ra
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Posted - 2006.02.17 15:45:00 -
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Originally by: Elve Sorrow Did you just call CELES pirates?
U know what i mean.
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Elve Sorrow
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Posted - 2006.02.17 17:48:00 -
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I do, but its almost too tempting to remove my current sig and replace it with a quote of that post. Who'd have thought that CELES were going to be named in the same sentence as BE, Biomass and pirates. 
Contact 'The Enslaver' ingame for good prices on Cap Recharger IIs, Zealots, Vagabonds and several other Tech2 Items + HACs!
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Hans Roaming
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Posted - 2006.02.18 16:43:00 -
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Hi, In the catch region after negitiations between FIX and Huzzah, Huzzah claims the systems from SNFV-1 all the way west up to but not including X4-WLO. FIX space in Catch starts at 4-07MU and goes east up to but not including X4-WLO, that system is nuetral ground.
Thanks Hans
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Xidde
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Posted - 2006.02.19 22:26:00 -
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Thx for change on the name joshua forget about my last post.. sry.. dident see you change it.. thx
//Mang0o
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Joshua Foiritain
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Posted - 2006.02.20 16:29:00 -
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Map updated, shout if i missed anything. -------
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thoth foc
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Posted - 2006.02.20 17:14:00 -
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Before we get a stream of PA/NBSI complaining, I would suggest branch should remain a warzone marker atm, as i'm not sure we wish to "officially contest" the region..
--thoth [5], ex-Curse Alliance ex-DSMA
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Edoo
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Posted - 2006.02.20 19:05:00 -
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Tribute not a warzone? Josh just go look, check killboards or something, but i think you percieve it as not a warzone because we have numbers against us, and if so thats the case then that isn't a very proffessional of you, and you should re-evaluate your decision on the area.
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Harry MacDougal
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Posted - 2006.02.20 19:08:00 -
[1874]
Nice job Josh. One thing I noticed, you have a marker over Great Wildlands, but there isn't a number to go with it.
Thanks for all the hard work, your maps are how I keep up with what's going on in the world of EvE
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Joshua Foiritain
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Posted - 2006.02.22 16:38:00 -
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Originally by: Edoo Tribute not a warzone? Josh just go look, check killboards or something, but i think you percieve it as not a warzone because we have numbers against us, and if so thats the case then that isn't a very proffessional of you, and you should re-evaluate your decision on the area.
I checked PA, NBSI and FE killboards, i couldnt find anything accept for a few kills in the chokepoints. Feel free to evemail me the links to the kills youre refering too. -------
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dabster
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Posted - 2006.02.22 17:21:00 -
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Originally by: Joshua Foiritain
Originally by: Edoo Tribute not a warzone? Josh just go look, check killboards or something, but i think you percieve it as not a warzone because we have numbers against us, and if so thats the case then that isn't a very proffessional of you, and you should re-evaluate your decision on the area.
I checked PA, NBSI and FE killboards, i couldnt find anything accept for a few kills in the chokepoints. Feel free to evemail me the links to the kills youre refering too.
Probably because thats where it is the easiest to get people to gank and/or fight. Other places of importance are systems with playerowned stations, and seeing as there is no contesting going on, you wont see much action in those. Doesnt mean it isnt infested with various entities though. ___________________________ Brutors Rule! My Eve-vids; Click. |

Naphtalia
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Posted - 2006.02.22 17:34:00 -
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Just an update from the N/E
1) Tribute/Vale chokepoints are hot (P3/M-O) with PA/NBSI/F-E/Pirats*/Cruel shooting eachother. 2) Tribute/Vale/Branch/Tenal/venal have several incursions of gank-packs both ways 3) Hostilities have ceased between F-E/SNU/MIHI/4s (what is their alliance name? Rawr? Yarr? something.) 4) SNU claims Lower Geminate uncontested, Possibly Warzone in the south with V (confirm?) 5) Mihi/Rawr Claim upper geminate (except for v1g constellation) no hostilities between F-E and residents of upper geminate 6) ATUK took BKG station and are waging POSWar in BKG 7) KAOS is playing Station Pingpong with NBSI in upper Tenal POSWar there as well
*Pirats: Burn Eden, CELES, Kouncil, Cruel Intentions sometimes even RISK
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DjDangle
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Posted - 2006.02.22 18:27:00 -
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V have no presence in Geminate.
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Ange1
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Posted - 2006.02.22 21:46:00 -
[1879]
I think upper Providence is heavily pirate infested, perhaps this should be reflected on the map? Depends how other upper Providence locals see it. ======================= The Establishment is at your service...
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Yakti
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Posted - 2006.02.22 23:11:00 -
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Originally by: Ange1 I think upper Providence is heavily pirate infested, perhaps this should be reflected on the map? Depends how other upper Providence locals see it.
Pirates? Pirates? Its boring there 95% of the time, thats how many pirates there are!
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pershphanie
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Posted - 2006.02.23 09:16:00 -
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Edited by: pershphanie on 23/02/2006 09:18:47 FE acknoledges SNU's claim to lower geminate and does not dispute it. We are not fighting them there. Do not need a marker for it. Same goes for big blue's constilation in geminate. They are in possetion of it Fe is not contesting it nor fighting for it.
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DB Preacher
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Posted - 2006.02.23 09:35:00 -
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The main VC corps have left Fountain and moved to Stain a while ago. Marker 10 should be removed as such.
We still have fights with a random bunch of corps in the Aridia/d4ku are including FA/IMP/VC carebears/local aridians, so that should remain as a warzone.
cheers, dbp
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Rover Vitesse
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Posted - 2006.02.24 00:06:00 -
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Contested and warzone marker can be removed from Detorid. One sniper tempest and his sensor boosting sidekick permanantly aligned and at speed does not constitute a contest nor war.

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Drakus
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Posted - 2006.02.24 07:24:00 -
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not sure if its been said BEFORE but the Ushra'khan has soverty over many systems on the north-east side of providence and has had that for weeks now... havn't lost and systems, just been gaining... might be nice to see us on there.
Just a suggestion :)
This post does not relfect the opinions of the Ushra'Khan or any of its members.
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Xaarist
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Posted - 2006.02.24 09:06:00 -
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Originally by: Rover Vitesse Contested and warzone marker can be removed from Detorid. One sniper tempest and his sensor boosting sidekick permanantly aligned and at speed does not constitute a contest nor war.

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Vishnej
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Posted - 2006.02.24 21:10:00 -
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Edited by: Vishnej on 24/02/2006 21:16:45 Geminate should have SNU, Blue, and RAWR for territory - and F-E is at peace with all of the above. As far as the Far North goes, it's a multi-region three-way battle between A) [5]/F-E/Kaos, B) PA/NBSI/CRUEL, and C) G/IRON.
Both branch and tenal are contested by force A, and defended by force B. Force C has been running offensives against force A there, but we've recently been informed that they attack B too. As for how much progress has been made there, the only reliable way to check that is checking station ownership for every ingame station up there, just before you release your next map.
As for the divisions: At this point I'd say that all of the above have played major parts in the fighting, and deserve to be included. Generally though, I think Kaos tend to be in Tenal, [5] in Branch, and F-E all over.
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Light Darkness
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Posted - 2006.02.25 03:40:00 -
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Edited by: Light Darkness on 25/02/2006 03:42:59 Thx for your work Joshua tbh...
atm the situation -V- against RA:
GW = not contested but still fights N-Rael/Konora (Hot spot) Scalding Pass = -V- Control 1V- and half Scalding Pass (full contested) Insmother (C-J6 and area) = -V- gangs and fleets around there (half contested)
My point of view and situation(i dont speak for CHIMP/KOS/LV/SMASH):
Wicked Creek = KOS still fight for the Stations and got most control (half KOS - half contested) Insmother = Allied Forces around there (CHIMP/KOS/LV/V) (half contested) Cache = SMASH engaged RA in Cache (half contested)
Regards /LD
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Archonon
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Posted - 2006.02.26 00:02:00 -
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Originally by: Light Darkness Edited by: Light Darkness on 25/02/2006 03:42:59 Thx for your work Joshua tbh... GW = not contested but still fights N-Rael/Konora (Hot spot) Scalding Pass = -V- Control 1V- and half Scalding Pass (full contested) Insmother (C-J6 and area) = -V- gangs and fleets around there (half contested)
My point of view and situation(i dont speak for CHIMP/KOS/LV/SMASH):
Wicked Creek = KOS still fight for the Stations and got most control (half KOS - half contested) Insmother = Allied Forces around there (CHIMP/KOS/LV/V) (half contested) Cache = SMASH engaged RA in Cache (half contested)
Regards /LD
? hostiles gang in your ennemi regions means contested but not in the other way ? LoL
Contested means "u live in" u fight for and have success in, cache/insmother/half scalding aren't contested, for wicked creek just 2 or 3 hostiles KOS pos and nothing more (KOS don't fight). Map seems correct atm. _______________________ XIII's member in local and all docked in Curse XIII's fleet around -V-'s dread and they called for Blob-jamming-Backup |

DjDangle
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Posted - 2006.02.26 00:09:00 -
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Originally by: Archonon Contested means "u live in" u fight for and have success in, cache/insmother/half scalding aren't contested, for wicked creek just 2 or 3 hostiles KOS pos and nothing more (KOS don't fight). Map seems correct atm.
Indeed, all of which, we have.
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nync
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Posted - 2006.02.27 05:01:00 -
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Edited by: nync on 27/02/2006 05:03:26 Edited by: nync on 27/02/2006 05:02:52 Official. GW = warzone and contested, check our killboard, our gangs and fleets killing -V- in GW on daily basis. ALTZ doing excellent job. N-RAEL hot spot. Scalding Pass = contested , as -V- control 1v- system and hug station in this system (Light Darkness > 30 V here and a small red gang fly around and kill ships Rogthgar > we are all station huggers :D Light Darkness > i know that Light Darkness Rogthgar > ) Insmother = not contested, under full RA control. just enemy gangs occasionally flying around. Wicked Creek = all stations under full RA control, and since -LV- and CHIMP united dred gang lost 3 dreds in engagement on pos in q-gq, -LV- and CHIMP are mining for a new ones and not contesting wicked creek for a moment. just couple of KOS poses left in region, they are beeing dealt with . Cache = SMASH and Fallen Souls and couple of their sponsored corps put 2 POSes in 995 and are busy moving fuel to feed them. Lets put it half-contested Detorid = contested. Joshua, thank you for your work, regards
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Kriger
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Posted - 2006.02.27 10:13:00 -
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dude.. its no secret RA has gank squads in GW.. now if your fleets actually did anything but gank lone players and not log every time any sizeable V gang moves into the area, you guys MIGHT claim GW would be contested.. but you dont, so it isnt. No offence intended btw, but to claim something is contested u need to actually put up a fight for it. This btw the same argument why V claims more regions further south are contested.
My views - not those of my corp or alliance.
Kriger
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Cpt Pugwash
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Posted - 2006.02.27 21:07:00 -
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Originally by: DB Preacher The main VC corps have left Fountain and moved to Stain a while ago. Marker 10 should be removed as such.
We still have fights with a random bunch of corps in the Aridia/d4ku are including FA/IMP/VC carebears/local aridians, so that should remain as a warzone.
cheers, dbp
Only 1 VC corp has moved to Stain Reformation.
You are right Fountain is not a warzone it is contested 1 weekend in Fountain does not give you control nor remove a war marker.
You post above is nothing more than blatant trolling
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DB Preacher
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Posted - 2006.02.27 21:38:00 -
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Originally by: Cpt Pugwash
Originally by: DB Preacher The main VC corps have left Fountain and moved to Stain a while ago. Marker 10 should be removed as such.
We still have fights with a random bunch of corps in the Aridia/d4ku are including FA/IMP/VC carebears/local aridians, so that should remain as a warzone.
cheers, dbp
Only 1 VC corp has moved to Stain Reformation.
You are right Fountain is not a warzone it is contested 1 weekend in Fountain does not give you control nor remove a war marker.
You post above is nothing more than blatant trolling
Just to back up my post above, all VC pos have been removed, all VC have moved out of fountain into Aridia. We haven't seen seen any VC in ages.
We are in complete control in Fountain.
dbp
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Cpt Pugwash
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Posted - 2006.02.27 21:54:00 -
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I was in fountain last night killed a Xelas industrial on my travels. Saw 30 FA in WY-9LL countless VC and not a single Bob member.
As has been stated before coming in force once a month does not constitute Control.
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Alasse Cuthalion
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Posted - 2006.02.27 23:01:00 -
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Edited by: Alasse Cuthalion on 27/02/2006 23:01:26 Whining on the forum once a month does not constitute "control" either.
Perhaps if you'd been in Fountain tonight you would've seen 50+ BoB and an assload of Xelas ships out in force taking down an FA pos erected 24hrs earlier with ZERO resistance.
In future, please refrain from commenting on regions you have no first hand experience of Stabwash, leave it to one of your alliance mates that actually tries to live in the area eh?
Thanks,
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j0sephine
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Posted - 2006.02.27 23:39:00 -
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"As has been stated before coming in force once a month does not constitute Control."
neither does having one man kill single industrial and telling stories about what he saw and what he did not.
and please, review the thread rules before you start accusing others of trolling:
2. If you disagree with the map makers decisions, contact a representative of your alliance and have them contact the map maker via eve mail or similar.
3. If you disagree with the map makers decisions, do not post, your post will be considered off topic and deleted, you may recieve a warning or a ban.
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Linavin
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Posted - 2006.02.28 05:53:00 -
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Originally by: Drakus not sure if its been said BEFORE but the Ushra'khan has soverty over many systems on the north-east side of providence and has had that for weeks now... havn't lost and systems, just been gaining... might be nice to see us on there.
Just a suggestion :)
I would vouch for UK, seeing as they have claimed much of upper providence and held it for at least 3 or 4 weeks now. Upper providence also has Malestrom Alliance and Corvid Free Space Syndicate claiming space, as well as ASCN claiming a single system with acess to the Tash-Murkon region. On top of all that Southern Border Alliance also claims one system in upper providence. The political situation between the alliances is relativley unknown on the other hand, the area may warrant a multi-faction warzone title or may just be a collection of small, unrelated claims. ---
Originally by: Sarmaul nm, that says lub not lube
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Cpt Pugwash
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Posted - 2006.02.28 07:49:00 -
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Is this how Bob intend to conqueor the forums with insults
Originally by: Alasse Cuthalion
Whining on the forum once a month does not constitute "control" either.
Originally by: Alasse Cuthalion Stabwash,
False assumptions that I have only 1 charachter and never go to Fountain
Originally by: Alasse Cuthalion
In future, please refrain from commenting on regions you have no first hand experience of Stabwash, leave it to one of your alliance mates that actually tries to live in the area eh?
Originally by: j0sephine neither does having one man kill single industrial and telling stories about what he saw and what he did not.
And Blobbing the forums in total disregard to the rules whilst trying to twist the rules to apply in their favour.
1 representative from each alliance is all it takes to make your claim on here, VC can stick to that rule why do Bob think it does not apply to them?
Fountain is contested, to claim it is not even a war zone whislt you have a 50 man fleet in there enfocing your claim on the area is trolling.
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UnIQu3
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Posted - 2006.02.28 09:12:00 -
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x13 have been removed from western stain...
As they cant claim a space when they dont undock...
But also they only have a deimos and isthar in t-nn left.
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Mang0o
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Posted - 2006.02.28 11:09:00 -
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Originally by: UnIQu3 x13 have been removed from western stain...
As they cant claim a space when they dont undock...
But also they only have a deimos and isthar in t-nn left.
We dont claim a space we have a space.. We are there, i hear some mass look in sometimes.. that aint really what we care about.. 2-3 mass coming in for a fast gank and running back home... we dont have time for that kind of stuff  If so i want to claim the stain region.. i was there and no one tryed to kill me..
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Durvaul
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Posted - 2006.02.28 11:17:00 -
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Originally by: UnIQu3 x13 have been removed from western stain...
As they cant claim a space when they dont undock...
But also they only have a deimos and isthar in t-nn left.
U cant even remove gankers so wtf u on about This Sig May Contain Voilent Messages that Only A Trained Spy Of Assassin Can See, mmkay? |

dabster
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Posted - 2006.02.28 11:29:00 -
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Dont bother Pug, this thread turns into something similar about monthly.
We all know Fountain is going to be renamed darthland in Kali anyway, Assembly in YZ will be named Solosembly. They are also going to introduce a new serp called blob, a 4k frig last i heard, to make sure they remain in control over the belts. On darths demand, Y-2ANO will be HI-2U. ___________________________ Brutors Rule! My Eve-vids; Click. |

j0sephine
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Posted - 2006.02.28 12:30:00 -
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"1 representative from each alliance is all it takes to make your claim on here, VC can stick to that rule why do Bob think it does not apply to them?"
Oh, so it's you who is the official VC representative for this thread, then? If that's the case then please excuse me. Honestly couldn't remember and thought it's someone else... wouldn't have replied otherwise :/
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Geralt Rivia
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Posted - 2006.02.28 18:01:00 -
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Edited by: Geralt Rivia on 28/02/2006 18:01:54
Originally by: j0sephine "1 representative from each alliance is all it takes to make your claim on here, VC can stick to that rule why do Bob think it does not apply to them?"
Oh, so it's you who is the official VC representative for this thread, then? If that's the case then please excuse me. Honestly couldn't remember and thought it's someone else... wouldn't have replied otherwise :/
whois BoB representative for this thread?
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DB Preacher
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Posted - 2006.02.28 19:32:00 -
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Originally by: Cpt Pugwash
Fountain is contested, to claim it is not even a war zone whislt you have a 50 man fleet in there enfocing your claim on the area is trolling.
Re-read the rules in big letters on the front page about contesting npc regions.
We have a 50 man fleet every night in delve as well. It doesn't mean that is contested by anyone |:
Don't see why you care anyway, your corp was the one who abandoned the area and left all your alliances pos to be cleared out without any resistance.
dbp
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Babs Johnson
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Posted - 2006.02.28 19:58:00 -
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By the time of the next map update, the FREGE - Ekliptika merger will be complete. Please remove both FREGE and EKP from the map, and replace them with SunStorm Dominion [SDX]. And, can we have another color besides pink? ;)
The claimed territory is central Pure Blind, between KLY-C0 and B-9C24 and south to RQH-MY, consisting of constellations K-QUVW, 304Z-R, and S4GH-I.
Thanks for your good work, Joshua. Convo me with any questions.
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Gunther Hoosler
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Posted - 2006.02.28 20:30:00 -
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Edited by: Gunther Hoosler on 28/02/2006 20:31:36 EDIT : Spoke to soon, Puggie is on the case :¼) __________________________________________________ Gunther Hoosler ALi Director
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TWD
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Posted - 2006.02.28 20:44:00 -
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Originally by: Cpt Pugwash
And Blobbing the forums in total disregard to the rules whilst trying to twist the rules to apply in their favour.
1 representative from each alliance is all it takes to make your claim on here, VC can stick to that rule why do Bob think it does not apply to them?
Fountain is contested, to claim it is not even a war zone whislt you have a 50 man fleet in there enfocing your claim on the area is trolling.
What is your problem dude?
A respresentative of your alliance already said a while back that VC has no interest in holding space.
Besides that point, we have removed every VC POS in our space with no resistance!
Your corporation lives in Stain and pretty much waved away that 'issue' of us killing the POS as not being your problem. Why do you even dare to make posts like this? |

Cmd Woodlouse
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Posted - 2006.03.01 00:22:00 -
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Originally by: UnIQu3 x13 have been removed from western stain...
As they cant claim a space when they dont undock...
But also they only have a deimos and isthar in t-nn left.
lots of x13 spotted in torrinos, they have an empire war vs. us, so that may explain their lack of presence in the south.
Dunno if its permanent or only a roadtrip, so they might come back  --------------------------------
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UnIQu3
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Posted - 2006.03.01 00:34:00 -
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Originally by: Cmd Woodlouse
Originally by: UnIQu3 x13 have been removed from western stain...
As they cant claim a space when they dont undock...
But also they only have a deimos and isthar in t-nn left.
lots of x13 spotted in torrinos, they have an empire war vs. us, so that may explain their lack of presence in the south.
Dunno if its permanent or only a roadtrip, so they might come back 
Well, if i understand it correct, if they are not present or only 2 guys there... they shouldnt be able to claim the space... enuff said.
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dabster
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Posted - 2006.03.01 07:29:00 -
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Originally by: UnIQu3
Originally by: Cmd Woodlouse
Originally by: UnIQu3 x13 have been removed from western stain...
As they cant claim a space when they dont undock...
But also they only have a deimos and isthar in t-nn left.
lots of x13 spotted in torrinos, they have an empire war vs. us, so that may explain their lack of presence in the south.
Dunno if its permanent or only a roadtrip, so they might come back 
Well, if i understand it correct, if they are not present or only 2 guys there... they shouldnt be able to claim the space... enuff said.
So make an official claim for contested then instead of whining. ___________________________ Brutors Rule! My Eve-vids; Click. |

Xaarist
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Posted - 2006.03.01 10:01:00 -
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Originally by: nync
Wicked Creek = all stations under full RA control, and since -LV- and CHIMP united dred gang lost 3 dreds in engagement on pos in q-gq, -LV- and CHIMP are mining for a new ones and not contesting wicked creek for a moment. ... Detorid = contested.
1. CHIMP did never contest wicked creek, we were just assisting our allies from time to time. 2. detorid: there was a time when RA had more ppl and pos in detorid where you admitted you no longer contest it. now, you have one pos left, and almost no RA are seen except from a few occasions, and contest it again? nice one... ---------------- (\_/) (O.o) (> <) This is an alien dressed as Bunny to secretly gain world domination. ...if you don't know Happy Tree Friends, just imagine Teletubbies on LSD... |

UnIQu3
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Posted - 2006.03.01 12:13:00 -
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Originally by: dabster
Originally by: UnIQu3
Originally by: Cmd Woodlouse
Originally by: UnIQu3 x13 have been removed from western stain...
As they cant claim a space when they dont undock...
But also they only have a deimos and isthar in t-nn left.
lots of x13 spotted in torrinos, they have an empire war vs. us, so that may explain their lack of presence in the south.
Dunno if its permanent or only a roadtrip, so they might come back 
Well, if i understand it correct, if they are not present or only 2 guys there... they shouldnt be able to claim the space... enuff said.
So make an official claim for contested then instead of whining.
No need to claim it, just look at our alliance name... we allways been claiming it.
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Mang0o
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Posted - 2006.03.01 13:34:00 -
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Originally by: UnIQu3
Originally by: Cmd Woodlouse
Originally by: UnIQu3 x13 have been removed from western stain...
As they cant claim a space when they dont undock...
But also they only have a deimos and isthar in t-nn left.
lots of x13 spotted in torrinos, they have an empire war vs. us, so that may explain their lack of presence in the south.
Dunno if its permanent or only a roadtrip, so they might come back 
Well, if i understand it correct, if they are not present or only 2 guys there... they shouldnt be able to claim the space... enuff said.
Im sure we have alot more then 2players in our space.. But feel free to claim it and we might come up once the G, Iron war is over.. claim it if u want not like we gonna leave the area.. we did claim that space for fun nothing els.. But pepole coming into our space is nothing new SE has been there a long time, BOB has been there.. alot of others even sudden death squad.. and we cant stop that.. aint like bob can stop us coming into there space ganking and going back.. but if u are in that space for 2weeks and no resistance the space is yours..
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UnIQu3
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Posted - 2006.03.01 23:06:00 -
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Originally by: Mang0o
Originally by: UnIQu3
Originally by: Cmd Woodlouse
Originally by: UnIQu3 x13 have been removed from western stain...
As they cant claim a space when they dont undock...
But also they only have a deimos and isthar in t-nn left.
lots of x13 spotted in torrinos, they have an empire war vs. us, so that may explain their lack of presence in the south.
Dunno if its permanent or only a roadtrip, so they might come back 
Well, if i understand it correct, if they are not present or only 2 guys there... they shouldnt be able to claim the space... enuff said.
Im sure we have alot more then 2players in our space.. But feel free to claim it and we might come up once the G, Iron war is over.. claim it if u want not like we gonna leave the area.. we did claim that space for fun nothing els.. But pepole coming into our space is nothing new SE has been there a long time, BOB has been there.. alot of others even sudden death squad.. and we cant stop that.. aint like bob can stop us coming into there space ganking and going back.. but if u are in that space for 2weeks and no resistance the space is yours..
Thank you - ill grab it :)
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Durvaul
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Posted - 2006.03.02 09:13:00 -
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Originally by: UnIQu3
Originally by: Cmd Woodlouse
Originally by: UnIQu3 x13 have been removed from western stain...
As they cant claim a space when they dont undock...
But also they only have a deimos and isthar in t-nn left.
lots of x13 spotted in torrinos, they have an empire war vs. us, so that may explain their lack of presence in the south.
Dunno if its permanent or only a roadtrip, so they might come back 
Well, if i understand it correct, if they are not present or only 2 guys there... they shouldnt be able to claim the space... enuff said.
Don't play the [5] games and forumw arrioer map claims
I went down there and i was dead, ganked by 30 of them, it is still there space. Damn, enuff with u This Sig May Contain Voilent Messages that Only A Trained Spy Of Assassin Can See, mmkay? |

Khirzan Wolfson
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Posted - 2006.03.02 20:14:00 -
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KOS alliance currently has held 2/3 of WC stations for over 2 weeks. 4-E station is still contested. Can we please be put up on your next update Josh? Also, you are one cool cat for doing this for Eve players! -Khirzan Wolfson X/O, The Taining Corp KOS Foreign Affairs
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Kunming
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Posted - 2006.03.02 21:47:00 -
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Originally by: Khirzan Wolfson KOS alliance currently has held 2/3 of WC stations for over 2 weeks. 4-E station is still contested. Can we please be put up on your next update Josh? Also, you are one cool cat for doing this for Eve players!
I'm glad KOS could find a new home and get settled down. I kinda felt guilty for what happened in Omist, each side did what they had to do but it was our internal matters that started it all.
Wish you luck in WC..
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Pastora
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Posted - 2006.03.03 11:52:00 -
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If LD of -V- claims, that Insmother is contested, then the following territories are contested as well: Detorid, Scalding Pass, Tenerifis and Omist. _______________________________________________ If ifs and ands were pots and pans, I would grow mushrooms in my pants. |

Pegas
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Posted - 2006.03.03 12:20:00 -
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Originally by: Pastora If LD of -V- claims, ...... Tenerifis and Omist.
I want some of what u smoke. Unfortunately Tenefris and Omist don`t have complexes so no need to mark them as contested. Pods warpgangs also don`t count.
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Ruby Kahn
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Posted - 2006.03.03 12:23:00 -
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Originally by: Pastora If LD of -V- claims, that Insmother is contested, then the following territories are contested as well: Detorid, Scalding Pass, Tenerifis and Omist.
Detorid is not contested either so stop talking nonsense to try and mess up the map. Solo gankers & gankfleets don't constitute contest.
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G'ulSera
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Posted - 2006.03.03 12:24:00 -
[1922]
Originally by: Ruby Kahn
Originally by: Pastora If LD of -V- claims, that Insmother is contested, then the following territories are contested as well: Detorid, Scalding Pass, Tenerifis and Omist.
Detorid is not contested either so stop talking nonsense to try and mess up the map. Solo gankers & gankfleets don't constitute contest.
I'm gonna kill this alt damnit
Main
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Pastora
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Posted - 2006.03.03 12:35:00 -
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Originally by: Ruby Kahn
Originally by: Pastora If LD of -V- claims, that Insmother is contested, then the following territories are contested as well: Detorid, Scalding Pass, Tenerifis and Omist.
Detorid is not contested either so stop talking nonsense to try and mess up the map. Solo gankers & gankfleets don't constitute contest.
Maybe you should stop to do it first, don't you?! _______________________________________________ If ifs and ands were pots and pans, I would grow mushrooms in my pants. |

Ruby Kahn
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Posted - 2006.03.03 14:21:00 -
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Originally by: Pastora
Originally by: Ruby Kahn
Originally by: Pastora If LD of -V- claims, that Insmother is contested, then the following territories are contested as well: Detorid, Scalding Pass, Tenerifis and Omist.
Detorid is not contested either so stop talking nonsense to try and mess up the map. Solo gankers & gankfleets don't constitute contest.
Maybe you should stop to do it first, don't you?!
This is not the place for discussion. -out-
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Tock Lapar
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Posted - 2006.03.03 15:12:00 -
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995-3G in Cache is under Fallen souls, But the whole area is under contest with Smash / Fallen souls as a Team VS REDS. This has been the case for a number of weeks but we now have soverenty.
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munchy
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Posted - 2006.03.04 06:30:00 -
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Edited by: munchy on 04/03/2006 06:31:20
Originally by: Tock Lapar 995-3G in Cache is under Fallen souls, But the whole area is under contest with Smash / Fallen souls as a Team VS REDS. This has been the case for a number of weeks but we now have soverenty.
you have had soverenitiy for less than a day, and you only have it because of a bug, you are already losing pos's in the system, and i doubt you will have soverentiy for very much longer. getting sov for a few hours does not count as being "under" your alliance imo.
EDIT - you dont even hold the station either ---
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Komolov
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Posted - 2006.03.04 07:14:00 -
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Sure Cache is not contested since erupting few POSes in one system is not equal to contesting region.:)
As munchy said they got sovereignity only for few hours right after that patch (only god knows why). And they were unable to do with this anything while their POSes were destroyed and their ships killed.
I'm not even sure that Cache should have war mark on it since i suppose that couple of scirmishes per day against gang of 2-5 ships is not equal to war :)
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Stefoudemon
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Posted - 2006.03.04 15:34:00 -
[1928]
Originally by: Tock Lapar 995-3G in Cache is under Fallen souls, But the whole area is under contest with Smash / Fallen souls as a Team VS REDS. This has been the case for a number of weeks but we now have soverenty.
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DjDangle
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Posted - 2006.03.04 19:27:00 -
[1929]
RA have a lot of representatives don't they /\
ITFB Website
Veritas Immortalis Website
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Laurelin1420

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Posted - 2006.03.04 22:59:00 -
[1930]
Thread cleaned (AGAIN) This is NOT a discussion thread....
..So stop it. 
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pershphanie
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Posted - 2006.03.05 01:00:00 -
[1931]
The forces of FE/the5/kaos empire have taken both the v7-mid and 6oy stations in tenal. I'd like to request that tenal be a contested region as we now hold 2/3 of it and nbsi only 1/3.
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Rover Vitesse
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Posted - 2006.03.05 10:05:00 -
[1932]
Immensea can now be shown as contested between CHIMP and SBA. We have moved POS and forces in there over the last week and are taking the stations now. Half of SBA have left the alliance, the other half keep convoing our FCs trying to make deals to save their own assets by spying on their remaining friends. Its very confusing, so we just kill them and inform their CEOs when they do this.  Chimaera Pact Minister For Propaganda Rovers Chronicles
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Komolov
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Posted - 2006.03.05 11:37:00 -
[1933]
Originally by: Laurelin1420 Thread cleaned (AGAIN) This is NOT a discussion thread....
..So stop it. 
I sometimes think that mods do not realise what they're doing. If someone write here that he's contesting half of regions in eve you'll probably delete all responses since it is not discussion thread and next Joshua's update show half of eve in one color :)
Once again i repeat - Cache is not contested. And today - even more than yesterday. We killed their last POS in Cache tonight ;)
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c0rn1
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Posted - 2006.03.05 22:32:00 -
[1934]
Edited by: c0rn1 on 05/03/2006 22:32:47
Originally by: nync
Wicked Creek = all stations under full RA control, and since -LV- and CHIMP united dred gang lost 3 dreds in engagement on pos in q-gq, -LV- and CHIMP are mining for a new ones and not contesting wicked creek for a moment. just couple of KOS poses left in region, they are beeing dealt with .
A short Look at the map would provide you better infos' than listening to the red alliance propaganda channel. Then You'd see that we got sov in all 3 station systems and the last station is right now being taken, whereas we keep the Q-GQ and F-EM stations for at least 2 weeks now. But furthermore: enjoy yourself and we enjoy Wicked Creek. thnx
c0rn1 - KOS Defense Minister - x x x x x x x x x x x x x x
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mamolian
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Posted - 2006.03.06 05:20:00 -
[1935]
Originally by: Linavin Edited by: Linavin on 01/03/2006 02:30:04
Originally by: Drakus not sure if its been said BEFORE but the Ushra'khan has soverty over many systems on the north-east side of providence and has had that for weeks now... havn't lost and systems, just been gaining... might be nice to see us on there.
Just a suggestion :)
I would vouch for UK, seeing as they have claimed much of upper providence and held it for at least 3 or 4 weeks now. Upper providence also has Malestrom Alliance and Corvid Free Space Syndicate claiming space, as well as ASCN claiming a single system with acess to the Tash-Murkon region. On top of all that Southern Border Alliance also claims one system in upper providence. The political situation between the alliances is relativley unknown on the other hand, the area may warrant a multi-faction warzone title or may just be a collection of small, unrelated claims.
Upper Providence Is mostly under UK control, the little pocket ajoining kbp7-g, is under Corvid Alliance Control, Maelstrom Alliance, claimed space only for pos fuel saving, and were guests to the locals, all 3 alliances work to help clear kbp7-g, along with other Providence local corps. Kbp7-g is a fairly bad chokepoint, choked by several well organised local pirate corps, and is never under anyones control for long.
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John Blackthorn
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Posted - 2006.03.06 15:02:00 -
[1936]
I would like to confirm that f-e and snu have a truce/nap at this time. And I would like to point out on the map that Snu/F-e did some fighting in the Gemni region however, the Vale region really didn't warrent a war marker between snu/f-e. Only mm (4S) alliance/f-e. Snu participated in a few fights in ls- but that was only a few times.
The reason that SNU and f-e were fighting was because snu are friends with 4S. And once 4S and f-e decided to stop fighting each other it removed the reason that SNU was in the fight as well.
-John Blackthorn
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Joshua Foiritain
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Posted - 2006.03.06 15:45:00 -
[1937]
Map updated, lemme know if i missed anything. -------
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Harry MacDougal
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Posted - 2006.03.06 16:08:00 -
[1938]
Marker 2 doesn't actually appear on the map. Germinate has marker 8, but neither RA nor KOS are there (and from FE statements, it doesn't really deserve a marker at all). The rest of the map looks great. Keep up the good work, Josh
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John Blackthorn
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Posted - 2006.03.06 16:21:00 -
[1939]
Correct the marker on gemni which is #8 should not be there (it's duplicate of the one already on map. No war marker needed over gemni at this time.
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Tiuwaz
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Posted - 2006.03.06 16:22:00 -
[1940]
to my knowledge k-8sqs is in firm hands of babylon federal republic and d4r-h7 is owned by black omega security (.5.)
i know of no PA attempts to actually contest or fight for those stations, so no need to show it as contested
i am no offical rep, but think that way it would be more accurate
Originally by: Oveur ****! Lets nerf it!
To the nerfmobile!
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Malka Badi'a
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Posted - 2006.03.06 17:13:00 -
[1941]
Joshua, due to the combined efforts of S******dly, Suffoco Noctis, and Wraiths would it be wise to plop a warning within Placid? While Syndicate has quite the corporation war going on the piracy has filtered into Placid and has remained there for quite some time. Depending upon your current level of piracy required for such a warning, I can provide documentation of logs even outside my corporation. The relocation of a known pirate dreadnought within the low-sec region of Placid should also elevate travel advisories. --------------
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FolkoDemon
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Posted - 2006.03.06 21:53:00 -
[1942]
Hi, can you please make Paragon Soul and Period Basis marked as regions of war of SA against BoB, TS, FIX and co.?
I can back up my statement bout presence in Paragon Soul with screenshots and fraps, if u want it Joshua, and Period Basis - we simply need to pass it to get to Paragon Soul ;) So we fight there too. -----
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pershphanie
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Posted - 2006.03.06 23:24:00 -
[1943]
Originally by: John Blackthorn I would like to confirm that f-e and snu have a truce/nap at this time. And I would like to point out on the map that Snu/F-e did some fighting in the Gemni region however, the Vale region really didn't warrent a war marker between snu/f-e. Only mm (4S) alliance/f-e. Snu participated in a few fights in ls- but that was only a few times.
The reason that SNU and f-e were fighting was because snu are friends with 4S. And once 4S and f-e decided to stop fighting each other it removed the reason that SNU was in the fight as well.
-John Blackthorn
/signed
Also FE fully acknoledges SNU's claim on lower geminate. We are not fighting over it. No warzone needed in vale or geminate.
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Lord Wimbishi
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Posted - 2006.03.07 09:45:00 -
[1944]
Edited by: Lord Wimbishi on 07/03/2006 09:48:11 This is inaccurate of course since PA is still in the middle of that and very well alive. it is kinda one sided and easy for our enemies to try to snuff us out on a map when they know full and well they are getting wiped out piece meal most of the time they come to OUR areas in Venal. Update the map correctly if you would please. If not thing oh well, doesn't hurt us at all since we are still killing you and every other goon you all try to throw at us.
Venal is ours, The Phoenix alliance till we are completely removed from this region. and should be considered either contested or still in the hands of PA.
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thoth foc
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Posted - 2006.03.07 09:52:00 -
[1945]
Originally by: Lord Wimbishi they know full and well they are getting wiped out piece meal most of the time they come to OUR areas in Venal.PA.
Which areas of venal are you claiming to control? (As in you stop us using as we want)
--thoth [5], ex-Curse Alliance ex-DSMA
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Jaqs
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Posted - 2006.03.07 10:11:00 -
[1946]
To anybody this thread is the one of the only threads that has to kept clean of bs like wimbishi posted that crap like he posted is for the discussion parts not the map thread. That goes for anybody.
Please keep it official.
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Durvaul
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Posted - 2006.03.07 10:59:00 -
[1947]
Originally by: FolkoDemon Hi, can you please make Paragon Soul and Period Basis marked as regions of war of SA against BoB, TS, FIX and co.?
I can back up my statement bout presence in Paragon Soul with screenshots and fraps, if u want it Joshua, and Period Basis - we simply need to pass it to get to Paragon Soul ;) So we fight there too.
SA have no presnece in period basis apart from random ganking idiots, we should know, we are there, u turn up in small gangs, soon as bob confront u, u log or run. No marker needed and Tribal is not under threat This Sig May Contain Voilent Messages that Only A Trained Spy Of Assassin Can See, mmkay? |

UnIQu3
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Posted - 2006.03.07 11:19:00 -
[1948]
Originally by: Durvaul
Originally by: FolkoDemon Hi, can you please make Paragon Soul and Period Basis marked as regions of war of SA against BoB, TS, FIX and co.?
I can back up my statement bout presence in Paragon Soul with screenshots and fraps, if u want it Joshua, and Period Basis - we simply need to pass it to get to Paragon Soul ;) So we fight there too.
SA have no presnece in period basis apart from random ganking idiots, we should know, we are there, u turn up in small gangs, soon as bob confront u, u log or run. No marker needed and Tribal is not under threat
I think a mark would be good enough to mark we are... but not contesting :)
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Durvaul
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Posted - 2006.03.07 12:17:00 -
[1949]
Originally by: UnIQu3
Originally by: Durvaul
Originally by: FolkoDemon Hi, can you please make Paragon Soul and Period Basis marked as regions of war of SA against BoB, TS, FIX and co.?
I can back up my statement bout presence in Paragon Soul with screenshots and fraps, if u want it Joshua, and Period Basis - we simply need to pass it to get to Paragon Soul ;) So we fight there too.
SA have no presnece in period basis apart from random ganking idiots, we should know, we are there, u turn up in small gangs, soon as bob confront u, u log or run. No marker needed and Tribal is not under threat
I think a mark would be good enough to mark we are... but not contesting :)
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Alasse Cuthalion
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Posted - 2006.03.07 14:02:00 -
[1950]
Roaming gangs of frigates unwilling to engage anything other than lone mining/npc'ing ships hardly warrants marking it as a "war zone" imo.
Bring me a proper fleet to chew on, on a daily basis and we'll consider your request.
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Remedial
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Posted - 2006.03.07 15:02:00 -
[1951]
I don't believe that Syndicate can properly said to be "infested" with pirates anymore. Certainly there are pirates out and about, particularly around the 6-C, MHC, and Y9G series of gates, but the pirate presence has been greatly diminished over the past few months as OSS has taken up greater patrols of the area. I don't think the pirate problem in Syndicate is now any worse than it is in any other popular section of 0.0 space near Empire.
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Drilla
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Posted - 2006.03.07 15:31:00 -
[1952]
Excellent stuff as always Josh, keep up the good work!
A small idea - the alliances that you list by acronyms, can you put them in a small legend? would be awesome :)
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FolkoDemon
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Posted - 2006.03.07 15:38:00 -
[1953]
Originally by: Alasse Cuthalion Roaming gangs of frigates unwilling to engage anything other than lone mining/npc'ing ships hardly warrants marking it as a "war zone" imo.
Bring me a proper fleet to chew on, on a daily basis and we'll consider your request.
I'm sorry but I have to disagree. First of all, there wouldn't be any of our presence in these regions, if this war wouldn't happened.
Second thing, is that even if we often - but not always - move in frigates, we are still present there. Of course our task is to gank your miners and chainers. You see something wrong with that? You don't do that? And still Stain is marked as war zone.
If you want to discuss why we don't engage your 60hac gang with 10 ceptors to get fair fights, please start new thread :) Apart from that, big thanks to Tribal Souls for all fights we had till now, both in Stain and Paragon Soul, was nice to see carrier in action too :) -----
Quote: This world is made of Love & Peace! V. t. S.
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thebold
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Posted - 2006.03.07 16:00:00 -
[1954]
SA's Map Claim: We ARE at war with Tribal Souls,BOB,FIX
SA on a daily basis killing in both Paragon Soul, Period Basis, Delve and Stain. As is all 3 abouve enemie parties engaging in the 4 abouve regions.
The map requires war marker number 5 on the regions of Delve, Period Basis and Paragon Soul.
This marker is used purly to show active war zones and hostile engagements just like Querious is highlighted now.
If BOB/FIX/Tribal Refute these claims, then let it be known that SA war marker number 5 should no longer hold BOB/Tribal nor FIX having Stain as a hostile war zone. FIX Hardly come to Stain- They are engaged in Empire BOB Bring also Gangs into Stain on a nightly basis as we do to the abouve 3 regions. And refuting these claims is saying gangs of hostile ships creating a war zone is not applicable then... there for it is not applicable to Stains region to be marked.
All 3 vs SA parties are consitantly engaging in all 4 regions on the map.
Those are the facts.
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Dianabolic
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Posted - 2006.03.07 16:07:00 -
[1955]
BoB disagree that period basis requires a warzone, as is stated by the op for this request you merely use it to travel thru, there is no pitched battles and hardly any losses from either side.
A war zone would denote pitched battles, I would think, those do not happen in Period Basis.
Originally by: Thomas Jefferson A society that will trade a little liberty for a little security will lose both and deserve neither
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FolkoDemon
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Posted - 2006.03.07 16:35:00 -
[1956]
When we move to Paragon Soul thru Period Basis, we check most main systems there, including popular chaining places, thats why I wanted war icon there in first place. Also, I actually belive we were there every two days, last few days it's been every day. I think it's more then enough to mark it war zone. -----
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Alasse Cuthalion
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Posted - 2006.03.07 16:52:00 -
[1957]
Nobody's denying that you don't pass through the Period Basis or Delve regions, you clearly do. But that is ALL you do, it is not a WAR ZONE.
For example:
Monday: 1 bs lost, 2 frigates killed.
Sunday: 1 hac lost, 2 frigates killed.
Saturday: 0 losses, 0 kills.
The above stats are for Delve only and are 100% correct to my knowledge, if there any kills missing from our killboard please contact me via eve mail to have this corrected.
On the other hand, you currently have BNC living in your own region fighting toe to toe with SA on a daily basis.
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thebold
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Posted - 2006.03.07 16:55:00 -
[1958]
Originally by: Dianabolic
BoB disagree that period basis requires a warzone, as is stated by the op for this request you merely use it to travel thru, there is no pitched battles and hardly any losses from either side.
Fair enough
Originally by: Dianabolic
A war zone would denote pitched battles, I would think, those do not happen in Period Basis.
Correct meerly ganks, But you do not note to the fights from Delve :) But then you have no millitary in PB
Originally by: Dianabolic
You do not come to period basis every night. YOu are not based in period basis or putting any pressure on that area.
We do.. We have to it is a requirment to reach Tribal Souls... Tpar and nearby systems are normaly bussy
Originally by: Dianabolic
BoB, however, have teams permanently based in Stain, so your logic is flawed (imo).
SA is having a hard time finding these 'teams' apart from the one that is based from Agil
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FolkoDemon
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Posted - 2006.03.07 16:57:00 -
[1959]
I agree, there is not much BoB presence in Period Basis, however we kill also MC members and TS members there, who like to chain in your systems.
Look at it this way: we kill everything we see in Period Basis (however lots of these guys are no noobs and safespot really fast ;) ), but all we see is not really BoB. However according to map, it's claimed BoB space, and we brought war there. So it should be fair to mark it war zone.
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hoebela
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Posted - 2006.03.07 17:13:00 -
[1960]
Edited by: hoebela on 07/03/2006 17:14:41
Originally by: FolkoDemon I agree, there is not much BoB presence in Period Basis, however we kill also MC members and TS members there, who like to chain in your systems.
Look at it this way: we kill everything we see in Period Basis (however lots of these guys are no noobs and safespot really fast ;) ), but all we see is not really BoB. However according to map, it's claimed BoB space, and we brought war there. So it should be fair to mark it war zone.
No place for trolling.
Period basis is one of the most peaceful 0.0 regions in EVE. A few frigates travelling through our region does not mean a warzone.
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DoctorGonzo
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Posted - 2006.03.07 17:13:00 -
[1961]
Originally by: FolkoDemon I agree, there is not much BoB presence in Period Basis, however we kill also MC members and TS members there, who like to chain in your systems.
Look at it this way: we kill everything we see in Period Basis (however lots of these guys are no noobs and safespot really fast ;) ), but all we see is not really BoB. However according to map, it's claimed BoB space, and we brought war there. So it should be fair to mark it war zone.
Well according to your own Killboard you have killed less than one ship a day over the last month in Period Basis (Minus shuttles, pods and newbie ships) - does that really constitute a war zone marker?
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DoctorGonzo
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Posted - 2006.03.07 17:17:00 -
[1962]
..and Delve is even worse you've only killed 16 ships in the last month (again minus shuttles, pods and newbie ships) - No war zone marker for either region in my opinion.
Get Your BoB Protection Kit Here |

FolkoDemon
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Posted - 2006.03.07 17:20:00 -
[1963]
Originally by: hoebela Edited by: hoebela on 07/03/2006 17:14:41
Originally by: FolkoDemon I agree, there is not much BoB presence in Period Basis, however we kill also MC members and TS members there, who like to chain in your systems.
Look at it this way: we kill everything we see in Period Basis (however lots of these guys are no noobs and safespot really fast ;) ), but all we see is not really BoB. However according to map, it's claimed BoB space, and we brought war there. So it should be fair to mark it war zone.
No place for trolling.
Period basis is one of the most peaceful 0.0 regions in EVE. A few frigates travelling through our region does not mean a warzone.
- TWD (wrong default char)
No trolling in my post. What is wrong with telling thruth. TS, BoB and MC chaining there, are good at what they do, and ss fast when cought by superior numbers. Still we are forcing them to ss. Those who fail, loose ships there. -----
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TWD
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Posted - 2006.03.07 17:47:00 -
[1964]
Originally by: FolkoDemon
No trolling in my post. What is wrong with telling thruth. TS, BoB and MC chaining there, are good at what they do, and ss fast when cought by superior numbers. Still we are forcing them to ss. Those who fail, loose ships there.
A warzone is when two (or more) groups fight. There is no fighting, because you don't want to fight us. It doesn't get more simple than that.
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FolkoDemon
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Posted - 2006.03.07 17:51:00 -
[1965]
Edited by: FolkoDemon on 07/03/2006 17:55:17 For two groups to fight, first thing that is needed are two groups. I didn't saw any organized BoB gang in Period Basis so far, when we go to Delve ok - u mobilize in seconds and face us, but you are simply not present in PB. Thats why we didn't had fights there yet I think.
-added after edit, so this don't turn into flame war: -
Second reason may be that we simply are diffrent time zones etc, but IMHO fact we are there and harassing you or your allies at any chance, should be enough of the reason to make it war zone. -----
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TWD
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Posted - 2006.03.07 18:06:00 -
[1966]
Originally by: FolkoDemon Edited by: FolkoDemon on 07/03/2006 17:55:17 For two groups to fight, first thing that is needed are two groups. I didn't saw any organized BoB gang in Period Basis so far, when we go to Delve ok - u mobilize in seconds and face us, but you are simply not present in PB. Thats why we didn't had fights there yet I think.
-added after edit, so this don't turn into flame war: -
Second reason may be that we simply are diffrent time zones etc, but IMHO fact we are there and harassing you or your allies at any chance, should be enough of the reason to make it war zone.
When a few pilots go to a random region and get a kill now and then it doesn't make it a warzone. Same situation at this.
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FolkoDemon
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Posted - 2006.03.07 18:13:00 -
[1967]
Very well, then remove war marker from Stain. When your gang comes sometimes, it forces us to mobilize and fight (or to ignore you), but eventually you go away quite fast and life goes as before. Sounds fair TWD?
Apart from that - i made my point, you guys made yours. This is not thread for discussion, now it's only for Joshua to decide, and mods will prolly delete these notes soon, so I won't post in this thread anymore :) TWD start new thread if you want, and we can discuss this more :)
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DoctorGonzo
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Posted - 2006.03.07 18:50:00 -
[1968]
Originally by: FolkoDemon Very well, then remove war marker from Stain. When your gang comes sometimes, it forces us to mobilize and fight (or to ignore you), but eventually you go away quite fast and life goes as before. Sounds fair TWD?
No - read my posts above - you have less than one kill a day in Period Basis and one kill every two days in Delve. Where as we're killing lots of SA every day in Stain and Catch. There is a big difference.
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Durvaul
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Posted - 2006.03.07 21:20:00 -
[1969]
Edited by: Durvaul on 07/03/2006 21:22:25 SA, you will not flood the map with warzone markers to keep your ego in check
Your claims are to put across you are a amazing alliance with huge power. The map is for heavily contested regions. When one alliance or corp contest the region and tries to take the region and make it a warzone. You are doing neither. Fix state you are not attempting to take Catch and Tribal Souls claim you are just ganking easy kills in Paragon and not contesting. Neither are you contesting BOB Space. Now u call me a nub and so on and thats fine. But sumone has to stop you attemtping to make our your area huge like RA. Do your properganda elsewhere. RA is falling apart and if you keep on the same will happen to you. NPC region or not you can still be kicked out. Regardless of your personal opinions.
This is for the map thread and not properganda.
Omg, Mods Get off My Sig Mmkay?
Recruitment Is Open EMF Webpage, Click On EMF Public Discussions
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Ishtar Amin
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Posted - 2006.03.08 01:55:00 -
[1970]
Chimp do not own northern immensea, they control the south yes but not the north.
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Seleene
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Posted - 2006.03.08 11:05:00 -
[1971]
Originally by: FolkoDemon No trolling in my post. What is wrong with telling thruth. TS, BoB and MC chaining there, are good at what they do, and ss fast when cought by superior numbers. Still we are forcing them to ss. Those who fail, loose ships there.
I can't speak for the dozens of losses that are obviously being inflicted against BoB and TS, but MC is losing ships in Period Basis? We lost a Mega in NOL about two weeks ago. I think that's actually in Delve, not PB.
Yes, we've seen your frig gangs around TPAR from time to time, but they've had no effect on the few MC in the area. Period Basis has got to be one of the most silent and peaceful places in EVE. It's at the ass end of nowhere and if you pull up the "Ships destroyed in the last 24 hours" map, it's going to be very dead at almost any time of the week.
If you want to make PB a WAR ZONE, then go for the fun option and bring a fleet to TPAR to try to take the station. Then, if you win, base a permanent force out of there and try to contest the area. THAT is a war zone, baby.   -
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ToxicFire
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Posted - 2006.03.08 12:52:00 -
[1972]
The Core Collective (TCC) and Black Reign Syndicate (BRS) at war in south syndicate/solitude border zone BRS also at war with other local alliances.
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Geralt Rivia
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Posted - 2006.03.08 17:33:00 -
[1973]
Originally by: Seleene *snip* THAT is a war zone, baby.  
wouldn`t that be contesting??
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Jaqs
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Posted - 2006.03.08 21:01:00 -
[1974]
Bashing at each other is for the forums not official map thread.
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Illuvator Brightstar
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Posted - 2006.03.09 06:30:00 -
[1975]
You might be able to legitimately place an "ASCN Infestation" in Pure Blind/Fade/Dek. Judging by the ships killed in last 24 hrs, pure blind and dek especially are lit up like a christmas tree, though I can't attest to how much of that is the ASCN presence and how much is something else.
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Satanista
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Posted - 2006.03.09 14:59:00 -
[1976]
Originally by: Illuvator Brightstar You might be able to legitimately place an "ASCN Infestation" in Pure Blind/Fade/Dek. Judging by the ships killed in last 24 hrs, pure blind and dek especially are lit up like a christmas tree, though I can't attest to how much of that is the ASCN presence and how much is something else.
found this on ASCN killboards, sees to be due to them:
Current Campaigns NameStart dateKillsISK (M)LossesISK (M)Efficiency Ze Northern Slaughter - 2006-032006-03-014045865.441601816.676.35%
also something from earlier today: http://ascn.eve-killboard.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=76561
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Cmd Woodlouse
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Posted - 2006.03.09 18:49:00 -
[1977]
Originally by: Satanista
Originally by: Illuvator Brightstar You might be able to legitimately place an "ASCN Infestation" in Pure Blind/Fade/Dek. Judging by the ships killed in last 24 hrs, pure blind and dek especially are lit up like a christmas tree, though I can't attest to how much of that is the ASCN presence and how much is something else.
found this on ASCN killboards, sees to be due to them:
Current Campaigns NameStart dateKillsISK (M)LossesISK (M)Efficiency Ze Northern Slaughter - 2006-032006-03-014045865.441601816.676.35%
also something from earlier today: http://ascn.eve-killboard.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=76561
What has a killboard to do in this thread? 
Anyway, if the hobbits want a war marker, why dont they ask with a main? To excited about that single carrier kill like it was something uber that cripples an entire alliance?  --------------------------------
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Illuvator Brightstar
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Posted - 2006.03.09 20:56:00 -
[1978]
Originally by: Satanista
Originally by: Illuvator Brightstar You might be able to legitimately place an "ASCN Infestation" in Pure Blind/Fade/Dek. Judging by the ships killed in last 24 hrs, pure blind and dek especially are lit up like a christmas tree, though I can't attest to how much of that is the ASCN presence and how much is something else.
found this on ASCN killboards, sees to be due to them:
Current Campaigns NameStart dateKillsISK (M)LossesISK (M)Efficiency Ze Northern Slaughter - 2006-032006-03-014045865.441601816.676.35%
also something from earlier today: http://ascn.eve-killboard.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=76561
Killboard stats mean nothing in this really. I just mentioned it because from looking at the map, the area is quite lit up with *someone* losing a lot of ships, can't say who really.
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Gyro DuAquin1
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Posted - 2006.03.10 00:42:00 -
[1979]
unimportant ganking
Would u mind to post with ur main?
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Abdalion

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Posted - 2006.03.10 03:14:00 -
[1980]
Originally by: Illuvator Brightstar You might be able to legitimately place
A "you might" doesn't cut it in this thread.
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pershphanie
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Posted - 2006.03.10 07:03:00 -
[1981]
The forces of fe/5/kaos have defeated pa/nbsi. These groups are no longer in the north. No contest or warzone is needed.
btw - this thread has so much smack in it you'd think i'd have started it.
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Kunming
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Posted - 2006.03.10 12:04:00 -
[1982]
Originally by: pershphanie ...
btw - this thread has so much smack in it you'd think i'd have started it.
Damn, now u owe me a new keyboard.. and a cup of coffee
Anyway, signed on behalf of Kaos Empire..
I'd also like to inform that Kaos now puts a claim on the following constelations: E-72A3, X-HFU3, TJ10-O, GFE-SS, 9P57-V, 2-ZRM0, including the systems 0-UVHJ, NCG-PW, IG-ZAM (which are not in any of those constelations). Hope that helps you to make a more accurate map next time, since we have no claim on S-EVIQ or V7-MID as it is shown on the current map.
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Amthrianius
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Posted - 2006.03.10 13:23:00 -
[1983]
Originally by: Kunming
Originally by: pershphanie ...
btw - this thread has so much smack in it you'd think i'd have started it.
Damn, now u owe me a new keyboard.. and a cup of coffee
Anyway, signed on behalf of Kaos Empire..
I'd also like to inform that Kaos now puts a claim on the following constelations: E-72A3, X-HFU3, TJ10-O, GFE-SS, 9P57-V, 2-ZRM0, including the systems 0-UVHJ, NCG-PW, IG-ZAM (which are not in any of those constelations). Hope that helps you to make a more accurate map next time, since we have no claim on S-EVIQ or V7-MID as it is shown on the current map.
/signed ---------------
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Hoshi
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Posted - 2006.03.11 00:04:00 -
[1984]
The Priory has joined cDc so they don't need their own marker in curse anymore. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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Raid
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Posted - 2006.03.11 07:44:00 -
[1985]
Originally by: Hoshi The Priory has joined cDc so they don't need their own marker in curse anymore.
Purhapse thats something CDC should decide, we cannot speak on their behalf... especially in this thread.
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Tigato
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Posted - 2006.03.11 13:20:00 -
[1986]
Edited by: Tigato on 11/03/2006 13:24:38
Originally by: ToxicFire The Core Collective (TCC) and Black Reign Syndicate (BRS) at war in south syndicate/solitude border zone BRS also at war with other local alliances.
i think that BRS are only pirats and so we (and the most others) kill them -> the pirate-marker is okay.
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Sethon
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Posted - 2006.03.13 04:35:00 -
[1987]
Attn: Josh and Mods
Greetings...
The official posters for Stella Nova United has changed from, Sethon and John Blackthorn, to Manalo.
Thank-you! Sethon, Creator and Founder, Chief Financial Officer, Stella Nova United
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Manalo
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Posted - 2006.03.13 04:36:00 -
[1988]
/signed
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Rift Scorn
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Posted - 2006.03.13 20:01:00 -
[1989]
Originally by: thebold [ Originally by: Dianabolic
BoB, however, have teams permanently based in Stain, so your logic is flawed (imo).
SA is having a hard time finding these 'teams' apart from the one that is based from Agil
I can understand you having a hard time finding them. You're in Delve trying to tickle EVOL atm.
IE-EX seem to be running out of 9RQ- as fast they can atm. Appears to be IGS's turn to try and fight us in that system. Let's hope they put up a better fight than IE-EX. BS of 'yours' are already getting downgraded to T1 cruisers, and anyone in your BS seen in YOUR home systems seem to set course to empire pretty quickly to get a new one; this makes me happy. warzone marker really should get changed to a 'Turkey Shoot' marker.
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thebold
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Posted - 2006.03.14 11:29:00 -
[1990]
Mr Map maker, I reinstate my original request, a dedicated force has moved into Delve and we are living in those systems.
On a daily basis Ganks and gang fights are taking place, Please check either alliance kill boards for confirmation...
Please could it be noted that VC is also apart of our gangs, We are in the Blood Raider Part of Delve which is 2 or so jumps from NOL.
Please could a VC rep and BOB rep respond..
Thanks
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DB Preacher
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Posted - 2006.03.14 11:43:00 -
[1991]
Originally by: thebold Mr Map maker, I reinstate my original request, a dedicated force has moved into Delve and we are living in those systems.
On a daily basis Ganks and gang fights are taking place, Please check either alliance kill boards for confirmation...
Please could it be noted that VC is also apart of our gangs, We are in the Blood Raider Part of Delve which is 2 or so jumps from NOL.
Please could a VC rep and BOB rep respond..
Thanks
Your original request was for a warzone over half the map which was rubbish.
However, the warzone should be placed on Delve in accordance with what you have now stated.
dbp
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thebold
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Posted - 2006.03.14 11:45:00 -
[1992]
I would also like to state that the Catch Corridor requires option 1, and 2 It is under attack from all pirates and all factions engage people in this corridor.
Its a free for all :)
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thebold
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Posted - 2006.03.14 11:46:00 -
[1993]
Originally by: DB Preacher
Your original request was for a warzone over half the map which was rubbish.
However, the warzone should be placed on Delve in accordance with what you have now stated.
dbp
My apologize.
Thanks
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WETRAIN
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Posted - 2006.03.14 12:41:00 -
[1994]
Originally by: pershphanie The forces of fe/5/kaos have defeated pa/nbsi. These groups are no longer in the north. No contest or warzone is needed.
btw - this thread has so much smack in it you'd think i'd have started it.
- agreed - - I am the Voice - I am the Eyes -
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TRIGGER
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Posted - 2006.03.14 17:36:00 -
[1995]
I Do not normally check this map but have been asked . please make the map show the following stain does not claim any part of catch from dss-ez . The map currently shows stain space up to hed-gp . The x13 space currently shown in t-nn area of stain is incorrect and needs to be addressed as there has been no x13 there for some time and therfore no claim by them can be put on these systems . If x13 would like to place pilots there and fight then please place a marker under stain space but contested or a war marker . a war marker should be put in delve only regarding SA and NOT in period basis , esoteria or paragon soul . I speak for SA only and not for any other parties friendly or allied to us .
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Krapz
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Posted - 2006.03.14 17:55:00 -
[1996]
I think it is safe to say that you can put a big red ball on Pure Blind, Fade, lower Deklein, Cloud Ring, and Syndicate in terms of ASCN involvement in the area.
We are not deploying towers at this time, but we are certainly there having fun, and killing everyone not blue. I don't think any inhabitants of the region will contest our presence in those regions.
You can reference our killboard over the last 5 - 7 weeks or so to verify our level of involvement.
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Cpt Pugwash
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Posted - 2006.03.14 18:08:00 -
[1997]
Originally by: thebold Mr Map maker, I reinstate my original request, a dedicated force has moved into Delve and we are living in those systems.
On a daily basis Ganks and gang fights are taking place, Please check either alliance kill boards for confirmation...
Please could it be noted that VC is also apart of our gangs, We are in the Blood Raider Part of Delve which is 2 or so jumps from NOL.
Please could a VC rep and BOB rep respond..
Thanks
VC Reformation is assisting SA in Delve a small number of RFM are assisting Imperium attack Delve from Sahkt.
The main body of VC will continue to operate in Fountain both from the NPC stations around YZ-LQL and out of Hophib in Aridia
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Galavet
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Posted - 2006.03.14 20:38:00 -
[1998]
Originally by: Cpt Pugwash
VC Reformation is assisting SA in Delve
This one I will give you.
Originally by: Cpt Pugwash a small number of RFM are assisting Imperium attack Delve from Sahkt.
This one I won't.
If mining in lower aridia is equal to an active war front then I might consider this. Given their new tactic of mass logoffs when you enter system with their mining parties, "War" is the polar opposite of what it should be called. The biggest threat here is their gate camps in 1-SMEB.. Thats like camping EC-P8R and claiming an active war front against people in Venal.
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Zysco
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Posted - 2006.03.14 20:44:00 -
[1999]
Originally by: Krapz Edited by: Krapz on 14/03/2006 20:02:33 I think it is safe to say that you can put a big red ball on Pure Blind, Fade, lower Deklein, Cloud Ring, and Syndicate in terms of ASCN involvement in the area.
We are not deploying towers at this time, but we are certainly there having fun, and killing everyone not blue. I don't think any inhabitants of the region will contest our presence in those regions.
You can reference our killboard over the last 5 - 7 weeks or so to verify our level of involvement.
You camp PF gate with a frig/cruiser fleet for a couple hours a day. I'm sure you kill tons of noobships and ospreys, but how is that possibly the criteria for a marker on the map?
callon > I don't like traveling much, i think its cause my father used to beat me with a globe.
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Krapz
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Posted - 2006.03.14 21:05:00 -
[2000]
Originally by: Zysco
Originally by: Krapz Edited by: Krapz on 14/03/2006 20:02:33 I think it is safe to say that you can put a big red ball on Pure Blind, Fade, lower Deklein, Cloud Ring, and Syndicate in terms of ASCN involvement in the area.
We are not deploying towers at this time, but we are certainly there having fun, and killing everyone not blue. I don't think any inhabitants of the region will contest our presence in those regions.
You can reference our killboard over the last 5 - 7 weeks or so to verify our level of involvement.
You camp PF gate with a frig/cruiser fleet for a couple hours a day. I'm sure you kill tons of noobships and ospreys, but how is that possibly the criteria for a marker on the map?
I referred to our killboard. I can't fix your ignorance or lack of motivation to click to it. I'm sure everyone can figure out where our killboard is, including you.
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liquidism
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Posted - 2006.03.15 01:32:00 -
[2001]
Originally by: Krapz Edited by: Krapz on 14/03/2006 20:02:33 I think it is safe to say that you can put a big red ball on Pure Blind, Fade, lower Deklein, Cloud Ring, and Syndicate in terms of ASCN involvement in the area.
We are not deploying towers at this time, but we are certainly there having fun, and killing everyone not blue. I don't think any inhabitants of the region will contest our presence in those regions.
You can reference our killboard over the last 5 - 7 weeks or so to verify our level of involvement.
hahaha!! sorry krapz but your tiny 15ppl gank squads containing frigs, cruisers and the occasional bs hardly make pure blind more a warzone than it already is.
our guys have been pulling this **** down at your space for ages now (check our killboard's last 5-6 months or so to verify our level of involvement ).
youre nothing more than an annoyance to the fade meatshields and the occasional unscouted solo bs.. maybe, just maybe: a funny afternoon fight for our bored pilots.
so you better cut this our or i might start claiming 4gq and turn azn, r97, 68ft and the oberon area into contested space by myself.
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Cmd Woodlouse
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Posted - 2006.03.15 01:40:00 -
[2002]
Edited by: Cmd Woodlouse on 15/03/2006 01:44:45 Edited by: Cmd Woodlouse on 15/03/2006 01:41:35
Originally by: Krapz Edited by: Krapz on 14/03/2006 20:02:33 I think it is safe to say that you can put a big red ball on Pure Blind, Fade, lower Deklein, Cloud Ring, and Syndicate in terms of ASCN involvement in the area.
We are not deploying towers at this time, but we are certainly there having fun, and killing everyone not blue. I don't think any inhabitants of the region will contest our presence in those regions.
You can reference our killboard over the last 5 - 7 weeks or so to verify our level of involvement.
Though you get kills up north, the only thing you are doing is sending in ganksquads. Requesting a warzone marker or even contested one (i hope you were joking on that tbh) makes no sense, when u dont fight at all and only gank.
We are ok however with a warzone marker over Pure Blind, as it is no claimed space and your presence is biggest there. To get your marker over claimed territories, you have to do far more than some gankings.
If you proof it and bring it, you can have it. We are not stubborn in this matter. But for now, a warzone marker isnt even remotely justified cause then we could req that also for half of the south, tribute, vale and so on.
I hope things are clear and understandable now 
EDIT: omg my spelling :( --------------------------------
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DB Preacher
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Posted - 2006.03.15 13:22:00 -
[2003]
Edited by: DB Preacher on 15/03/2006 13:23:37
Stain Alliance have all but left the Stain Region and according to their own pilots have no desire to claim the region:
Originally by: thebold Since SA wanted to loose its regions...
BoB is in control of 9rq upwards with SE in control below this.
I'm not personally sure of the situation in the Far West of the Region, it was VC but they have moved back up to Delve/Fountain/Aridia by all accounts.
Perhaps an SE representative could qualify where they are and are not living?
dbp
Current RKK Ranking: (PSCAL6) Proficient Short Tanto
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thebold
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Posted - 2006.03.15 14:48:00 -
[2004]
Originally by: DB Preacher Edited by: DB Preacher on 15/03/2006 13:23:37
Stain Alliance have all but left the Stain Region and according to their own pilots have no desire to claim the region:
Originally by: thebold Since SA wanted to loose its regions...
BoB is in control of 9rq upwards with SE in control below this.
I'm not personally sure of the situation in the Far West of the Region, it was VC but they have moved back up to Delve/Fountain/Aridia by all accounts.
Perhaps an SE representative could qualify where they are and are not living?
dbp
Clever db, my post was in accordance with the regions of paragon and estoria we hold claim to Stain. The topic of my reply was about the conquerable regions and my reference to regions was in accordance with the topic of my thought out reply. I apologize of confusing you.
Originally by: thebold Estoria is run by Oberon and ASCN now Since SA wanted to loose its regions... We know ASCN will hold them VS any Northern Entity that wanted to invade and support Oberon if they became threatened again.
Link for the confused Map Maker: http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=309177&page=1#25
All SA corps are moving into Southern and Northen Delve to engage the enemy on there home turf. SA's Claims will always stand for Stains 'NPC Region and Stations' The alliance has lost no major amount of membership since the start of the war there for we still live in the region.
We have encountered not much opposition to remove us from the region of Delve, nor can be removed from stain in the same sense.
A roaming gank gang does not quantify owning or taking over a region merely temporary control in a short term sense.
Only a full move of alliance AND assets into a region to LIVE as a home would be acceptable of owning a region, BOB has not done this.
SE controls 4gq - has done since the civil war hence the long standing war marker SA has never disputed this position.
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DB Preacher
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Posted - 2006.03.15 14:54:00 -
[2005]
Edited by: DB Preacher on 15/03/2006 14:56:33
1045 members in the SA IGA.
Delve: About 15-20 MASS actives basing from the Delve YZ- NPC Station. No stain POS in area, We control all PC stations, tons of BoB POS. When the hostiles log on, they are dealt with easily.
Stain: About 20-30 actives spread out across the whole region living in NPC stations. All have been removed from 9rq. No Pos in area, we have Pos in area. No build up of SA fleets, no organisation, no peace to do anything.
No clue where the other ~950 members are.
dbp
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Mang0o
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Posted - 2006.03.15 15:02:00 -
[2006]
Edited by: Mang0o on 15/03/2006 15:03:43
Originally by: TRIGGER I Do not normally check this map but have been asked . please make the map show the following stain does not claim any part of catch from dss-ez . The map currently shows stain space up to hed-gp . The x13 space currently shown in t-nn area of stain is incorrect and needs to be addressed as there has been no x13 there for some time and therfore no claim by them can be put on these systems . If x13 would like to place pilots there and fight then please place a marker under stain space but contested or a war marker . a war marker should be put in delve only regarding SA and NOT in period basis , esoteria or paragon soul . I speak for SA only and not for any other parties friendly or allied to us .
Ive been there for a week npcing dident see no mass coming to "kick" me out.. But i dont care if stain takes that part.. ill still npc there if i feel like it so its only a name on a map.. so i dont care.. feel free to claim it and take it.. fine by me m8.. but once SE tryed to take it.. once we got up there thay dident fight.. and once we left thay started fihgting and smacking forums again.. so dont leave if we come.. 
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thebold
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Posted - 2006.03.15 15:04:00 -
[2007]
Originally by: DB Preacher Edited by: DB Preacher on 15/03/2006 14:54:11 1045 members in the SA IGA.
Delve: About 15-20 MASS actives basing from the Delve YZ- NPC Station. No POS in area, We control all PC stations.
Stain: About 20-30 actives spread out across the whole region living in NPC stations. All have been removed from 9rq. No Pos in area, we have Pos in area.
No clue where the other 950 members are. dbp
Exactly my point your millitary also does not control all the regions you claim your intel is out dated.
What do we need a POS for ? Hence for us giving up our conquerable regions.
You own all PC but you have no millitary aswell defending your NPC stations you only have a millitary precense in NOL. We roam un-challenged,no more than you roam in stain.
SA rejects your unthought out claim. Let the map maker decide.
Your definition of owning conflicts clearly with SA's definition of owning a home.
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DB Preacher
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Posted - 2006.03.15 15:05:00 -
[2008]
Edited by: DB Preacher on 15/03/2006 15:06:30 Please read the definition of control on the front page and stop arguing in the map thread with completely illogical arguments.
You roam uncontested in delve? Please do not come in here and lie.
"SA's definition of owning a home" is not the definition stated on this thread or held by the general populace of Eve.
dbp
Current RKK Ranking: (PSCAL6) Proficient Short Tanto
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thebold
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Posted - 2006.03.15 15:06:00 -
[2009]
Originally by: DB Preacher
No clue where the other ~950 members are.
Stain is bigger than 9rq. Much bigger.
20 bob in 9rq~ 30 bob in NOL~ about 50 carebears in Paragon/Aridia/Delve
Gee can i argue the same thing now?
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DB Preacher
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Posted - 2006.03.15 15:08:00 -
[2010]
Originally by: thebold
Originally by: DB Preacher
No clue where the other ~950 members are.
Stain is bigger than 9rq. Much bigger.
20 bob in 9rq~ 30 bob in NOL~ about 50 carebears in Paragon/Aridia/Delve
Gee can i argue the same thing now?
Pull together a fleet to 9rq or NOL and see how big we are.
That's the definition of size and trust me, ours is significantly bigger than yours.
dbp
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Mauxir
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Posted - 2006.03.15 15:13:00 -
[2011]
Your e-peen and delusions of granduer are definatly bigger than ours. Can we have the map maker put that on the map?
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Dianabolic
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Posted - 2006.03.15 15:47:00 -
[2012]
Are you saying we don't and / or can't deal with every fleet you've tried to muster in either Delve or Stain, Mauxir?
(Hi btw :)
Originally by: Thomas Jefferson A society that will trade a little liberty for a little security will lose both and deserve neither
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Mauxir
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Posted - 2006.03.15 15:54:00 -
[2013]
I wont argue you have a deticated gank squad around 9rq but does not constitute regonal control.
And hi. 
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Krapz
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Posted - 2006.03.15 15:55:00 -
[2014]
Originally by: Cmd Woodlouse Edited by: Cmd Woodlouse on 15/03/2006 01:44:45 Edited by: Cmd Woodlouse on 15/03/2006 01:41:35
Originally by: Krapz Edited by: Krapz on 14/03/2006 20:02:33 I think it is safe to say that you can put a big red ball on Pure Blind, Fade, lower Deklein, Cloud Ring, and Syndicate in terms of ASCN involvement in the area.
We are not deploying towers at this time, but we are certainly there having fun, and killing everyone not blue. I don't think any inhabitants of the region will contest our presence in those regions.
You can reference our killboard over the last 5 - 7 weeks or so to verify our level of involvement.
Though you get kills up north, the only thing you are doing is sending in ganksquads. Requesting a warzone marker or even contested one (i hope you were joking on that tbh) makes no sense, when u dont fight at all and only gank.
We are ok however with a warzone marker over Pure Blind, as it is no claimed space and your presence is biggest there. To get your marker over claimed territories, you have to do far more than some gankings.
If you proof it and bring it, you can have it. We are not stubborn in this matter. But for now, a warzone marker isnt even remotely justified cause then we could req that also for half of the south, tribute, vale and so on.
I hope things are clear and understandable now 
EDIT: omg my spelling :(
I'll sun this up short and sweet. We score well over 50 - 100 kills a day on ihabitants and trevelers of all of the afore mentioned regions. I never requested that it be contested space. It IS, however, hostile space to anyone not positive with ASCN. And I will say that it is probably more hostile to people who don't have positive standings with us, moreso than it is hostile to people that don't have positive standings to you.
We ARE there, and have been there. We aren't going anywhere, and we have been and will be killing anyone and everyone not on positive standings with us. The fact that we ARE indeed doing just that, and effectively, is the basis of making the area a hostile "war zone". To deny that many, many people are dying up there to ASCN would be absurdity, and again, I'll reference Joshua to our killboard, and not some claim of what is or isn't. Maybe you can reference your killbaord and show your involvement as well?
The fact that a Northern fleet may get together every so often to push an ASCN group away from an objective is the simple fact of the matter, and why this post was being made. That's called a "conflict" and why I am requesting that the markers be placed. It is not contested, because frankly, we don't want it atm. We're just here to kill, for a long long time, or until we feel like escelating it.
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Hans Roaming
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Posted - 2006.03.15 15:55:00 -
[2015]
Originally by: TRIGGER I Do not normally check this map but have been asked . please make the map show the following stain does not claim any part of catch from dss-ez . The map currently shows stain space up to hed-gp . The x13 space currently shown in t-nn area of stain is incorrect and needs to be addressed as there has been no x13 there for some time and therfore no claim by them can be put on these systems . If x13 would like to place pilots there and fight then please place a marker under stain space but contested or a war marker . a war marker should be put in delve only regarding SA and NOT in period basis , esoteria or paragon soul . I speak for SA only and not for any other parties friendly or allied to us .
As Stain Alliance does not claim this space in Catch, the Huzzah Federation claims the space in the Catch region previously indicated on the map as Stain Alliance controlled.
President Huzzah Federation
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Dianabolic
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Posted - 2006.03.15 16:39:00 -
[2016]
Originally by: Mauxir I wont argue you have a deticated gank squad around 9rq but does not constitute regonal control.
And hi. 
No, but roaming anywhere we choose, when we choose, and facing zero resistance when we do so certainly does, surely? It is us who decides if things live in Stain at this moment in time, not the alliance which shares that name.
It is also us who decide what lives in Delve, and when or where those that live there travel or operate.
We've proven that across 2 war zones this week, Maux, you guys have proven you have a gank squad in Delve and absolutely no control whatever of anything in Stain. At least, not from what I've seen. Had some good fights though, so it's all gravy 
Originally by: Thomas Jefferson A society that will trade a little liberty for a little security will lose both and deserve neither
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Cmd Woodlouse
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Posted - 2006.03.15 17:42:00 -
[2017]
Originally by: Krapz
Originally by: Cmd Woodlouse Edited by: Cmd Woodlouse on 15/03/2006 01:44:45 Edited by: Cmd Woodlouse on 15/03/2006 01:41:35
Originally by: Krapz Edited by: Krapz on 14/03/2006 20:02:33 I think it is safe to say that you can put a big red ball on Pure Blind, Fade, lower Deklein, Cloud Ring, and Syndicate in terms of ASCN involvement in the area.
We are not deploying towers at this time, but we are certainly there having fun, and killing everyone not blue. I don't think any inhabitants of the region will contest our presence in those regions.
You can reference our killboard over the last 5 - 7 weeks or so to verify our level of involvement.
Though you get kills up north, the only thing you are doing is sending in ganksquads. Requesting a warzone marker or even contested one (i hope you were joking on that tbh) makes no sense, when u dont fight at all and only gank.
We are ok however with a warzone marker over Pure Blind, as it is no claimed space and your presence is biggest there. To get your marker over claimed territories, you have to do far more than some gankings.
If you proof it and bring it, you can have it. We are not stubborn in this matter. But for now, a warzone marker isnt even remotely justified cause then we could req that also for half of the south, tribute, vale and so on.
I hope things are clear and understandable now 
EDIT: omg my spelling :(
I'll sun this up short and sweet. We score well over 50 - 100 kills a day on ihabitants and trevelers of all of the afore mentioned regions. I never requested that it be contested space. It IS, however, hostile space to anyone not positive with ASCN. And I will say that it is probably more hostile to people who don't have positive standings with us, moreso than it is hostile to people that don't have positive standings to you.
We ARE there, and have been there. We aren't going anywhere, and we have been and will be killing anyone and everyone not on positive standings with us. The fact that we ARE indeed doing just that, and effectively, is the basis of making the area a hostile "war zone". To deny that many, many people are dying up there to ASCN would be absurdity, and again, I'll reference Joshua to our killboard, and not some claim of what is or isn't. Maybe you can reference your killbaord and show your involvement as well?
The fact that a Northern fleet may get together every so often to push an ASCN group away from an objective is the simple fact of the matter, and why this post was being made. That's called a "conflict" and why I am requesting that the markers be placed. It is not contested, because frankly, we don't want it atm. We're just here to kill, for a long long time, or until we feel like escelating it.
Let me be more direct. You only gank, you are not even seen as some kind of a threat, believe it or not. And if you refer to your kb (omg no kb discussion allowed but anyway) - well ASW from G alone killed over 40 bs in a few days in the south. That is however still no warzone. Its called ganking. Like i stated, you can have your pureblind warzone if you so heavily insist on it.
But NOT on the claimed northern regions. u dont even stay there, you only try to gank and rush through. Hell according to that, the WHOLE eve 0,0 must be marked as a huge warzone.
Final statement on behalf of G: Warzone Pure Blind (ASCN vs. Northeners). Nothing more as it would make the whole other warzones in claimed regions obsolete. --------------------------------
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Nafri
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Posted - 2006.03.15 19:04:00 -
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Originally by: Krapz
Originally by: Cmd Woodlouse Edited by: Cmd Woodlouse on 15/03/2006 01:44:45 Edited by: Cmd Woodlouse on 15/03/2006 01:41:35
Originally by: Krapz Edited by: Krapz on 14/03/2006 20:02:33 I think it is safe to say that you can put a big red ball on Pure Blind, Fade, lower Deklein, Cloud Ring, and Syndicate in terms of ASCN involvement in the area.
We are not deploying towers at this time, but we are certainly there having fun, and killing everyone not blue. I don't think any inhabitants of the region will contest our presence in those regions.
You can reference our killboard over the last 5 - 7 weeks or so to verify our level of involvement.
Though you get kills up north, the only thing you are doing is sending in ganksquads. Requesting a warzone marker or even contested one (i hope you were joking on that tbh) makes no sense, when u dont fight at all and only gank.
We are ok however with a warzone marker over Pure Blind, as it is no claimed space and your presence is biggest there. To get your marker over claimed territories, you have to do far more than some gankings.
If you proof it and bring it, you can have it. We are not stubborn in this matter. But for now, a warzone marker isnt even remotely justified cause then we could req that also for half of the south, tribute, vale and so on.
I hope things are clear and understandable now 
EDIT: omg my spelling :(
I'll sun this up short and sweet. We score well over 50 - 100 kills a day on ihabitants and trevelers of all of the afore mentioned regions. I never requested that it be contested space. It IS, however, hostile space to anyone not positive with ASCN. And I will say that it is probably more hostile to people who don't have positive standings with us, moreso than it is hostile to people that don't have positive standings to you.
We ARE there, and have been there. We aren't going anywhere, and we have been and will be killing anyone and everyone not on positive standings with us. The fact that we ARE indeed doing just that, and effectively, is the basis of making the area a hostile "war zone". To deny that many, many people are dying up there to ASCN would be absurdity, and again, I'll reference Joshua to our killboard, and not some claim of what is or isn't. Maybe you can reference your killbaord and show your involvement as well?
The fact that a Northern fleet may get together every so often to push an ASCN group away from an objective is the simple fact of the matter, and why this post was being made. That's called a "conflict" and why I am requesting that the markers be placed. It is not contested, because frankly, we don't want it atm. We're just here to kill, for a long long time, or until we feel like escelating it.
For contesting space you would need to contest the space. And that is only possible with POS wars.
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pershphanie
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Posted - 2006.03.16 00:44:00 -
[2019]
FE is in full control of the ls-jep area and v1g constilation in geminate. There is no fighting over it.
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Dianabolic
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Posted - 2006.03.16 01:02:00 -
[2020]
Originally by: thebold Mr Map maker, I reinstate my original request, a dedicated force has moved into Delve and we are living in those systems.
On a daily basis Ganks and gang fights are taking place, Please check either alliance kill boards for confirmation...
Please could it be noted that VC is also apart of our gangs, We are in the Blood Raider Part of Delve which is 2 or so jumps from NOL.
Please could a VC rep and BOB rep respond..
Thanks
As agreed previously (but the reply got deleted?) BoB agree that a war zone marker (woot, finally, \o/) is warranted in Delve. (Though on a personal note we still find it quite pathetic that SA were the ones that dec'd us, complained we didn't bring it (wtf?), then ran away after we brought it).
Originally by: Thomas Jefferson A society that will trade a little liberty for a little security will lose both and deserve neither
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Gyro DuAquin1
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Posted - 2006.03.16 01:03:00 -
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Originally by: Krapz Edited by: Krapz on 14/03/2006 20:02:33 I think it is safe to say that you can put a big red ball on Pure Blind, Fade, lower Deklein, Cloud Ring, and Syndicate in terms of ASCN involvement in the area.
We are not deploying towers at this time, but we are certainly there having fun, and killing everyone not blue. I don't think any inhabitants of the region will contest our presence in those regions.
You can reference our killboard over the last 5 - 7 weeks or so to verify our level of involvement.
Ok what u said is that u do ganking in the north, shootin anything thats not blue. AFAIK ganks squads are not worth a marker.
Try harder
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Rift Scorn
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Posted - 2006.03.16 02:56:00 -
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Originally by: Gyro DuAquin1
Originally by: Krapz Edited by: Krapz on 14/03/2006 20:02:33 I think it is safe to say that you can put a big red ball on Pure Blind, Fade, lower Deklein, Cloud Ring, and Syndicate in terms of ASCN involvement in the area.
We are not deploying towers at this time, but we are certainly there having fun, and killing everyone not blue. I don't think any inhabitants of the region will contest our presence in those regions.
You can reference our killboard over the last 5 - 7 weeks or so to verify our level of involvement.
Ok what u said is that u do ganking in the north, shootin anything thats not blue. AFAIK ganks squads are not worth a marker.
Try harder
If SA get a marker for pulling the very same stunt in Delve (although failing pretty miserable at ganking anything), i don't think you should deprive someone else of it, if you get my drift 
tbh, if Josh gets pressured into putting a marker on every 'gank' area of EVE his job is going to get a lot harder and more convaluted.
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Joycalyn
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Posted - 2006.03.16 04:36:00 -
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Smash and Fallen Souls have withdrawn from the Cache region and contested marker there can be removed.
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NeuSiresMOM
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Posted - 2006.03.16 07:22:00 -
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Edited by: NeuSiresMOM on 16/03/2006 07:22:06 i love lamp
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NeuSiresMOM
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Posted - 2006.03.16 07:26:00 -
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Edited by: NeuSiresMOM on 16/03/2006 07:25:40
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Fojar
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Posted - 2006.03.16 12:58:00 -
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Originally by: Ishtar Amin Chimp do not own northern immensea, they control the south yes but not the north.
I think you'll find we do.
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Krapz
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Posted - 2006.03.16 15:55:00 -
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Originally by: Gyro DuAquin1
Originally by: Krapz Edited by: Krapz on 14/03/2006 20:02:33 I think it is safe to say that you can put a big red ball on Pure Blind, Fade, lower Deklein, Cloud Ring, and Syndicate in terms of ASCN involvement in the area.
We are not deploying towers at this time, but we are certainly there having fun, and killing everyone not blue. I don't think any inhabitants of the region will contest our presence in those regions.
You can reference our killboard over the last 5 - 7 weeks or so to verify our level of involvement.
Ok what u said is that u do ganking in the north, shootin anything thats not blue. AFAIK ganks squads are not worth a marker.
Try harder
Seeing how there is only the occassional Northern Fleet around, would you rather we just claim Pure Blind? Or is this the part where we begin arguing that you have towers, and although 90% of the time you get killed for entering PB, it is still "your" space?
It is a fairly moot point to say that our presence is not felt. Again, the volume of kills is fairly significant here. The lack of organized resistence is more significant.
I am simply pointing out the constant presence of ASCN forces in these regions. I am referring to our killboard to validate our presence. I don't think you can deny our constant presence exists, based on the volume of kills, and timelines.
When you score a lot of kills, every day, almost every hour of every day, for weeks on end, I think that warrants a war marker being placed.
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Crean NaVar
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Posted - 2006.03.16 18:26:00 -
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One would think ASCN had the chance to learn what "war" means. 
The Northern Fleets are fighting in Tribute. Your 15 frig gank squads are of no interest for us Krapz. Stop the attention whoring for your few bored pvp¦ers.
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DB Preacher
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Posted - 2006.03.17 09:14:00 -
[2029]
Originally by: DB Preacher
I'm not personally sure of the situation in the Far West of the Region
Have been checking up on this and it is a complete wasteland over there.
There isn't any major influencing alliance in that region. No-one has any pos up, it's pretty much up for grabs.
dbp
Current RKK Ranking: (PSCAL6) Proficient Short Tanto
Drop by and say hi in Reikoku Forums.
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Nafri
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Posted - 2006.03.17 11:20:00 -
[2030]
Originally by: Krapz
Originally by: Gyro DuAquin1
Originally by: Krapz Edited by: Krapz on 14/03/2006 20:02:33 I think it is safe to say that you can put a big red ball on Pure Blind, Fade, lower Deklein, Cloud Ring, and Syndicate in terms of ASCN involvement in the area.
We are not deploying towers at this time, but we are certainly there having fun, and killing everyone not blue. I don't think any inhabitants of the region will contest our presence in those regions.
You can reference our killboard over the last 5 - 7 weeks or so to verify our level of involvement.
Ok what u said is that u do ganking in the north, shootin anything thats not blue. AFAIK ganks squads are not worth a marker.
Try harder
Seeing how there is only the occassional Northern Fleet around, would you rather we just claim Pure Blind? Or is this the part where we begin arguing that you have towers, and although 90% of the time you get killed for entering PB, it is still "your" space?
It is a fairly moot point to say that our presence is not felt. Again, the volume of kills is fairly significant here. The lack of organized resistence is more significant.
I am simply pointing out the constant presence of ASCN forces in these regions. I am referring to our killboard to validate our presence. I don't think you can deny our constant presence exists, based on the volume of kills, and timelines.
When you score a lot of kills, every day, almost every hour of every day, for weeks on end, I think that warrants a war marker being placed.
you see that pirat infestion marker? nothing more to say basicly
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Fred0
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Posted - 2006.03.17 12:44:00 -
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Not that I care much about the map but Pure Blind deserves a pirate infestation marker that seems to have gone missing. ---
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sidthesexist
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Posted - 2006.03.18 03:00:00 -
[2032]
Originally by: Dianabolic
Originally by: thebold Mr Map maker, I reinstate my original request, a dedicated force has moved into Delve and we are living in those systems.
On a daily basis Ganks and gang fights are taking place, Please check either alliance kill boards for confirmation...
Please could it be noted that VC is also apart of our gangs, We are in the Blood Raider Part of Delve which is 2 or so jumps from NOL.
Please could a VC rep and BOB rep respond..
Thanks
As agreed previously (but the reply got deleted?) BoB agree that a war zone marker (woot, finally, \o/) is warranted in Delve. (Though on a personal note we still find it quite pathetic that SA were the ones that dec'd us, complained we didn't bring it (wtf?), then ran away after we brought it).
I dont think them being in delve is 'running away'. ________ Shinra
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Dianabolic
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Posted - 2006.03.18 14:45:00 -
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Originally by: sidthesexist
Originally by: Dianabolic
Originally by: thebold Mr Map maker, I reinstate my original request, a dedicated force has moved into Delve and we are living in those systems.
On a daily basis Ganks and gang fights are taking place, Please check either alliance kill boards for confirmation...
Please could it be noted that VC is also apart of our gangs, We are in the Blood Raider Part of Delve which is 2 or so jumps from NOL.
Please could a VC rep and BOB rep respond..
Thanks
As agreed previously (but the reply got deleted?) BoB agree that a war zone marker (woot, finally, \o/) is warranted in Delve. (Though on a personal note we still find it quite pathetic that SA were the ones that dec'd us, complained we didn't bring it (wtf?), then ran away after we brought it).
I dont think them being in delve is 'running away'.
And I KNOW this isn't a discussion thread, if you have something you wish to discuss, take it to another thread.
Originally by: Thomas Jefferson A society that will trade a little liberty for a little security will lose both and deserve neither
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Elve Sorrow
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Posted - 2006.03.18 15:49:00 -
[2034]
Anue, i suggest you stay out of this thread, wether the issue concerns LV or not.
Yours,
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Shivaja
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Posted - 2006.03.19 02:06:00 -
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I am here by to declare that Outer Ring is not contested space any more is owned and ruled by NORAD alliance we were in contested mode with BOB for more than month and half and they fail to present them selves with any reasonable force here and as i stated here many times before ownership of region is presented by those who live there and defend the region against any hostile forces show in that region not by those who come here more than 5 months ago with big fleet and leaving after 4 days so dear map maker if u be so kind and set this right that the rest of the comunity can see who is the rightful owner of the region besides not speaking that we got full suport od NPC entity defactly conttoling majrity of the NPC stations in that region !!!
Shivaja Queen of Outer Ring CHON ceo NORAD Military Commander NORAD Kill Board
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Rift Scorn
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Posted - 2006.03.19 11:17:00 -
[2036]
Originally by: sidthesexist
Originally by: Dianabolic
Originally by: thebold Mr Map maker, I reinstate my original request, a dedicated force has moved into Delve and we are living in those systems.
On a daily basis Ganks and gang fights are taking place, Please check either alliance kill boards for confirmation...
Please could it be noted that VC is also apart of our gangs, We are in the Blood Raider Part of Delve which is 2 or so jumps from NOL.
Please could a VC rep and BOB rep respond..
Thanks
As agreed previously (but the reply got deleted?) BoB agree that a war zone marker (woot, finally, \o/) is warranted in Delve. (Though on a personal note we still find it quite pathetic that SA were the ones that dec'd us, complained we didn't bring it (wtf?), then ran away after we brought it).
I dont think them being in delve is 'running away'.
They try and gank stuff, and the second even half a force turns up, they log off or dock; such is the nature of Station- Allaince. When they do engage they loose 3:1
Ofc you'd know that being no where near Delve. yet another blatant display of fanboism. Stop attempting to talk of things you have absolutley no clue about.
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DB Preacher
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Posted - 2006.03.19 21:51:00 -
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Originally by: Shivaja I am here by to declare that Outer Ring is not contested space any more is owned and ruled by NORAD alliance we were in contested mode with BOB for more than month and half and they fail to present them selves with any reasonable force here and as i stated here many times before ownership of region is presented by those who live there and defend the region against any hostile forces show in that region not by those who come here more than 5 months ago with big fleet and leaving after 4 days so dear map maker if u be so kind and set this right that the rest of the comunity can see who is the rightful owner of the region besides not speaking that we got full suport od NPC entity defactly conttoling majrity of the NPC stations in that region !!!
We agree fully.
Grats.
dbp
Current RKK Ranking: (PSCAL6) Proficient Short Tanto
Drop by and say hi in Reikoku Forums.
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UnIQu3
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Posted - 2006.03.19 23:33:00 -
[2038]
Originally by: DB Preacher
BoB have put up pos in the area and have now removed all of SA's pos.
BoB is in control of 9rq upwards with SE in control below this.
I'm not personally sure of the situation in the Far West of the Region, it was VC but they have moved back up to Delve/Fountain/Aridia by all accounts.
Perhaps an SE representative could qualify where they are and are not living?
dbp
Maybe if you had time to check our killboard you would know that we are in stain... And 1 pos do not make a difference in a NPC region...
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TWD
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Posted - 2006.03.19 23:56:00 -
[2039]
Edited by: TWD on 19/03/2006 23:57:35
Originally by: UnIQu3
Maybe if you had time to check our killboard you would know that we are in stain... And 1 pos do not make a difference in a NPC region...
When you make a claim to a region you'll have to protect the claim when someone is contesting it.
SA is not doing that, it does not form a gang when hostiles are in Stain and all their POS have been removed without resistance - it was their choice.
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Justus Imperius
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Posted - 2006.03.20 15:12:00 -
[2040]
Can We Get An Update On The Map please
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Righteous Fury
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Posted - 2006.03.20 15:50:00 -
[2041]
Originally by: Justus Imperius Can We Get An Update On The Map please
Don't even start that, he'll update when he has time.
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Cmd Woodlouse
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Posted - 2006.03.20 15:56:00 -
[2042]
I think its now safe to say that Tribute should be considered as a Warzone now. Atleast every second day there are really biga$$ fleetbattles with 200-300 ppl involved, also POS's are deployed there from both warring parties. Fights going on whole day, not only ganksquads.
G/IRON/RZR/FATE/CELES vs. 5/F-E/KAOS/BM-C generally. --------------------------------
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Justus Imperius
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Posted - 2006.03.20 19:46:00 -
[2043]
whoops ^_^ that be me
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Babyface Zhang
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Posted - 2006.03.20 19:46:00 -
[2044]
Originally by: Righteous Fury
Originally by: Justus Imperius Can We Get An Update On The Map please
Don't even start that, he'll update when he has time.
My typing or asking has nothing what so ever to do with you, i am talking to Josh, not yourself. Now you mite be bobs *****es and think ur uber but i dun care k? Dont talk to me like u can order me around k? Cause i wont stand for it k?
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Righteous Fury
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Posted - 2006.03.20 20:24:00 -
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Originally by: Justus Imperius whoops ^_^ that be me
Well, considering I've been in Josh's position before, and I know how irritating impatient mental midgets like yourself can be, I would say that I am infact in a unique opinion to tell you what to do.
So how about you realize that sometimes people have lives outside Eve and stop whining that some pixels on an image haven't been changed in two weeks. k?
thx.
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Mr.Mayhem
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Posted - 2006.03.20 20:34:00 -
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I'd say your bordering on thread hijacking. If you wanna whine about how people are talking to Josh start your own thread. ---------------------
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Justus Imperius
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Posted - 2006.03.20 20:40:00 -
[2047]
Edited by: Justus Imperius on 20/03/2006 20:41:44
Originally by: Righteous Fury
Originally by: Justus Imperius whoops ^_^ that be me
Well, considering I've been in Josh's position before, and I know how irritating impatient mental midgets like yourself can be, I would say that I am infact in a unique opinion to tell you what to do.
So how about you realize that sometimes people have lives outside Eve and stop whining that some pixels on an image haven't been changed in two weeks. k?
Mental midget? u being facist? that's bannable you know. and heres another comment for u
go to hell
just because u have been a mapmaker doesnt give u the right to tel anyone what to do. So get off ur high horse abit k? He wants to be map maker and he stated every two weeks there would be a change and lateley he hasnt been doing it every two weeks. You have no right to tell anyone ine ve what to do as i dont pay u to play eve. So shut up
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Elve Sorrow
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Posted - 2006.03.20 20:52:00 -
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Oh look mummy, it's the village idiot making himself look like an idiot again. 
You don't want anyone to tell you what to do/say, but its ok if you tell someone else (Josh) what to do eh? Go make your own map if you dont like this one.
Yours,
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0153
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Posted - 2006.03.20 21:27:00 -
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Originally by: Cmd Woodlouse I think its now safe to say that Tribute should be considered as a Warzone now.
Yes but you should also marker Delklein and Fade as an warzone. If you fellow the northern alliances killboars you will see that half of the kills made in Deklein and Fade.
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TickTackTuck
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Posted - 2006.03.20 22:37:00 -
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ganking =/= war zone
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Dianabolic
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Posted - 2006.03.20 22:41:00 -
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Originally by: Elve Sorrow Oh look mummy, it's the village idiot making himself look like an idiot again. 
You don't want anyone to tell you what to do/say, but its ok if you tell someone else (Josh) what to do eh? Go make your own map if you dont like this one.
Sylvester StallOWNED is in da 'ouse.
Originally by: Thomas Jefferson A society that will trade a little liberty for a little security will lose both and deserve neither
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pershphanie
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Posted - 2006.03.21 01:12:00 -
[2052]
Edited by: pershphanie on 21/03/2006 01:13:53
Originally by: Cmd Woodlouse I think its now safe to say that Tribute should be considered as a Warzone now. Atleast every second day there are really biga$$ fleetbattles with 200-300 ppl involved, also POS's are deployed there from both warring parties. Fights going on whole day, not only ganksquads.
G/IRON/RZR/FATE/CELES vs. 5/F-E/KAOS/BM-C generally.
Agreed. Infact maybe we should just have a permanent war zone marker there since we always get action. Not having to travel for fights 4tw.
edit - also please change the ownership of southern vale/northern geminate to FE owned.
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Cmd Woodlouse
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Posted - 2006.03.21 03:53:00 -
[2053]
Originally by: 0153
Originally by: Cmd Woodlouse I think its now safe to say that Tribute should be considered as a Warzone now.
Yes but you should also marker Delklein and Fade as an warzone. If you fellow the northern alliances killboars you will see that half of the kills made in Deklein and Fade.
1. Use your hobbit main 2. Your statement is wrong 3. For a warzone in a claimed territory you have to bring more than occasional ganksquads 4. We kill and lose ALOT more in Tribute, cause we actually fight each others there --------------------------------
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Xean Peaceway
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Posted - 2006.03.21 08:57:00 -
[2054]
Just as a note for the future map,
There is a warzone in tribute between FE, 5 , KAOS & G, IRON. This war is mostly commencing in IMK, H-W, WH and D7 systems. Please take note.
Thank you.
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Josclyn Verreuil
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Posted - 2006.03.21 10:05:00 -
[2055]
Guys, guys. Stop trying to get map updates with alts please. This thread is for official stuff only, no place for alts )
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olan2005
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Posted - 2006.03.23 10:40:00 -
[2056]
pa&nbsi havent been seen i branchfor some time oly alts loggin into stations 2 pay 2b rent on offices g and iron are in venal ore map
x-f recruiting 0.0 or experienced empire players 1=pvp in groups 2=reguler corp mining ops 3=builders will be provided with mins they need
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John Blackthorn
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Posted - 2006.03.23 20:55:00 -
[2057]
Originally by: pershphanie FE is in full control of the ls-jep area and v1g constilation in geminate. There is no fighting over it.
/Signed
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UnIQu3
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Posted - 2006.03.23 22:42:00 -
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Originally by: TWD Edited by: TWD on 19/03/2006 23:57:35
Originally by: UnIQu3
Maybe if you had time to check our killboard you would know that we are in stain... And 1 pos do not make a difference in a NPC region...
When you make a claim to a region you'll have to protect the claim when someone is contesting it.
SA is not doing that, it does not form a gang when hostiles are in Stain and all their POS have been removed without resistance - it was their choice.
Can it be even more obvious that SA needs to be removed from the map?
So where did you kill posses? oh let me see none in stain, so how can that affect stain region?
You killed the one in aok, and the 1 in by-m got removed by tribal (and thats in esoteria)
Now, Mr. Map maker... The pirate infestions are based in western stain. (few of them ie. means X13) SE in 4gq BOB is only seen around 9rq and LGK - and sumtimes they fly down to 4gq.
It is not pirate infested for the hole SA region. And I think its wrong that its marked as contested, only because BOB forum warriors are writing, stain is controlled by bob and bla bla...
Regards UnIQu3
PS. I tryied to be so objective as possible! little respect from BOB would be nice on this matter.
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Berrik Radhok
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Posted - 2006.03.23 23:09:00 -
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Originally by: Krapz Edited by: Krapz on 14/03/2006 20:02:33 I think it is safe to say that you can put a big red ball on Pure Blind, Fade, lower Deklein, Cloud Ring, and Syndicate in terms of ASCN involvement in the area.
We are not deploying towers at this time, but we are certainly there having fun, and killing everyone not blue. I don't think any inhabitants of the region will contest our presence in those regions.
You can reference our killboard over the last 5 - 7 weeks or so to verify our level of involvement.
Um, what? I live in Syndicate and I've never seen any of your pilots.
BTW, the amount of space OSS is shown as claiming is too big. Last I checked we don't own Solitude ;p Signature file size and dimensions to big, please keep it under 400x120 and 24000 bytes - Petwraith |

Grimpak
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Posted - 2006.03.24 01:07:00 -
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Originally by: Berrik Radhok
Originally by: Krapz Edited by: Krapz on 14/03/2006 20:02:33 I think it is safe to say that you can put a big red ball on Pure Blind, Fade, lower Deklein, Cloud Ring, and Syndicate in terms of ASCN involvement in the area.
We are not deploying towers at this time, but we are certainly there having fun, and killing everyone not blue. I don't think any inhabitants of the region will contest our presence in those regions.
You can reference our killboard over the last 5 - 7 weeks or so to verify our level of involvement.
Um, what? I live in Syndicate and I've never seen any of your pilots.
BTW, the amount of space OSS is shown as claiming is too big. Last I checked we don't own Solitude ;p
I think Krapz meant Upper syndicate. According to our killboard, we're not as active in the PF-346 are as we are in the EC-P8R and X-7 in Pure blind, but we do go there kill some non-blue sometimes. ----------------
Originally by: Abdalion Shoot him ingame if you don't like this person. If you do like him, go mine veldspar with him.
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Joshua Foiritain
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Posted - 2006.03.24 01:28:00 -
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Originally by: Berrik Radhok BTW, the amount of space OSS is shown as claiming is too big. Last I checked we don't own Solitude ;p
Hmm i though i marked just the lower arm of syndicate, will check it in the morningish though  -------
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shivan
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Posted - 2006.03.24 01:40:00 -
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I ask for the Contested marker of Stain to be removed. BoB in no way shape or form control, from what I have personaly seen, anything in Stain.
Yes, I aggree, they have a single POS up in 9RQ. I have several times in the past week flown through 9RQ and seen more SA in local than BoB, and wihtout using my instas with TS loot in cargo I have seen ZERO BoB. The only BoB I have seen is an inderdictor that tried to gank my travel slasher in lgk-vp.
If the contested region marker cannot be removed from Stain, then with the amount of forces that Stain has deployed to Delve then that should become a contrested region as well.
All IMHO.
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Alasse Cuthalion
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Posted - 2006.03.24 02:09:00 -
[2063]
Edited by: Alasse Cuthalion on 24/03/2006 02:10:13 I ask for the Contested marker of Stain to be removed. SA in no way shape or form control, from what I have personaly seen, anything in Stain.
Yes, I aggree, we have a single POS up in 9RQ. I have several times in the past week flown through LGK and seen more BoB in local than SA, and wihtout using my instas with TS loot in cargo I have seen ZERO SA. The only SA I have seen is an inderdictor that tried to gank my travel Apoc in Agil.
If the contested region marker cannot be removed from Stain, then with the amount of forces that Stain has deployed to Khanid then that should become a contrested region as well.
All IMHO.
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CamMan
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Posted - 2006.03.24 02:47:00 -
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Originally by: shivan I ask for the Contested marker of Stain to be removed. BoB in no way shape or form control, from what I have personaly seen, anything in Stain.
Yes, I aggree, they have a single POS up in 9RQ. I have several times in the past week flown through 9RQ and seen more SA in local than BoB, and wihtout using my instas with TS loot in cargo I have seen ZERO BoB. The only BoB I have seen is an inderdictor that tried to gank my travel slasher in lgk-vp.
If the contested region marker cannot be removed from Stain, then with the amount of forces that Stain has deployed to Delve then that should become a contrested region as well.
All IMHO.
BoB's POS is publicly known and yet SA have not removed it, whilst SA have lost POS's in the region, that seems pretty contested to me. Which side is more in control is up to debate, the contested marker should not be.
Originally by: Bender Interesting, no the other one ... tedious
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Yo Fore
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Posted - 2006.03.24 03:11:00 -
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I request that posts from different people in the same alliance be removed, it is getting out of hand. Keep it to one person per alliance, this is not a discussion post.
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Abdalion

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Posted - 2006.03.24 04:21:00 -
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Originally by: Yo Fore I request that posts from different people in the same alliance be removed, it is getting out of hand. Keep it to one person per alliance, this is not a discussion post.
Yes please? ___
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shivan
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Posted - 2006.03.24 06:14:00 -
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Edited by: shivan on 24/03/2006 06:16:23
Originally by: Alasse Cuthalion Edited by: Alasse Cuthalion on 24/03/2006 02:10:13 I ask for the Contested marker of Stain to be removed. SA in no way shape or form control, from what I have personaly seen, anything in Stain.
Yes, I aggree, we have a single POS up in 9RQ. I have several times in the past week flown through LGK and seen more BoB in local than SA, and wihtout using my instas with TS loot in cargo I have seen ZERO SA. The only SA I have seen is an inderdictor that tried to gank my travel Apoc in Agil.
If the contested region marker cannot be removed from Stain, then with the amount of forces that Stain has deployed to Khanid then that should become a contrested region as well.
All IMHO.
Ok, now this post is just synoamass with all of bob's posting. I've posted in possible the one thread on this particualr board where people are meant to discuss opsing view points and you seem only to be able to flame me, albeit it without an insult.
BoB having to mock me and my post only goes to prove how out of control of the situation they really are, hence I once again ask for the contested region marker over Stain to be lifted and only a war zone marker be put into it's place.
Originally by: CamMan
BoB's POS is publicly known and yet SA have not removed it, whilst SA have lost POS's in the region, that seems pretty contested to me. Which side is more in control is up to debate, the contested marker should not be.
Why remove something when it isn't an instant threat to our, for short of a better word, livlyhood.
Its 6am here atm, so go easy on my for my SP, mmmkay?
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Sprak
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Posted - 2006.03.24 06:57:00 -
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The only spots in Northern Stain that offer any resistance are HM-UVD and Y1-/G-ME2K [kudos to The Raven Warriors]. As for the rest of Stain Alliance, you're tucked deep in Southeast Stain in the GU- area, in the main pipe in Delve or Agil. 9rq <-> HED is in BoB/Huzzah control imo. There should be a contested flag around HM-UVD and that constellation but the rest is non-contested. As for Delve, the main pipe between A2- and 319 should be contested but the rest of Delve is in BoB control.
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DB Preacher
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Posted - 2006.03.24 09:41:00 -
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Edited by: DB Preacher on 24/03/2006 09:45:30
Hi,
I'd like to clarify the position in Stain at this exact point in time. If it changes then I'll reiterate later.
I have no clue who Novus Nationis are. Never seen them in stain, never seen them in Delve.
BoB have now cleared everything North of 4GQ except for one last system of HM- where the corporation "The Raven Warriors" are the only corporation in Stain putting up a territorial fight.
The rest of SA have pulled out, en masse, from Stain and any contradiction to this is simply a lie.
I can corroborate that with the following quotes by SA members:
Originally by: thebold All SA corps are moving into Southern and Northen Delve to engage the enemy on there home turf.
Originally by: Cuebick We're not dead, and we're not in Stain
SE are in complete control of 4gq and we are not fighting them for control of Southern Stain at all. You will need to contact a representative of SE to confirm how far their control goes.
The West of Stain is devoid of any meaningful life since VC left.
dbp
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Dhannik
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Posted - 2006.03.24 10:36:00 -
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Edited by: Dhannik on 24/03/2006 10:37:22 Excellent work as usual on the map, Joshua. However I thought I might add to what Berrik said previously to help save you some time.
The area of Lower Syndicate that OSS controls overlaps quite a bit with Upper Solitude, but not all the way out to the western-most constellation of Solitude that has exits to Upper Syndicate and Aridia.
That is why the claimed territory looks a bit large, and might have irked some of Solitude's long time residents 
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Goberth Ludwig
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Posted - 2006.03.24 10:48:00 -
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I think ascn activity in pure blind deserves a marker.
- Gob
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NereSky
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Posted - 2006.03.24 11:00:00 -
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Originally by: Goberth Ludwig I think ascn activity in pure blind deserves a marker.
Yes i have to agree sadly X-7o seems very active with ASCN
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Cpt Pugwash
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Posted - 2006.03.24 11:01:00 -
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Originally by: DB Preacher Edited by: DB Preacher on 24/03/2006 09:45:30
Hi,
I'd like to clarify the position in Stain at this exact point in time. If it changes then I'll reiterate later.
I have no clue who Novus Nationis are. Never seen them in stain, never seen them in Delve.
BoB have now cleared everything North of 4GQ except for one last system of HM- where the corporation "The Raven Warriors" are the only corporation in Stain putting up a territorial fight.
The rest of SA have pulled out, en masse, from Stain and any contradiction to this is simply a lie.
I can corroborate that with the following quotes by SA members:
Originally by: thebold All SA corps are moving into Southern and Northen Delve to engage the enemy on there home turf.
Originally by: Cuebick We're not dead, and we're not in Stain
SE are in complete control of 4gq and we are not fighting them for control of Southern Stain at all. You will need to contact a representative of SE to confirm how far their control goes.
The West of Stain is devoid of any meaningful life since VC left.
dbp
More lies from DBP and Bob as we have come to expect. When are bob going to follow the thread rules and post with just one member?
VC have not left stain, VC were never in Stain. Only RFM were in stain and we haven't so much as changed station. I am sure SA SE and Tribal Souls can confirm this.
I live in stain and see more Tribal Souls than I do Bob. As in Fountain Bob Blob one area and claim they control the entire region.
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DB Preacher
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Posted - 2006.03.24 11:24:00 -
[2074]
Edited by: DB Preacher on 24/03/2006 11:26:27 Dude, don't waste your time posting rubbish.
No one takes you seriously at all, not even your own alliance according to your alliance chat.
RFM are in VC. RFM were in Stain. VC were therefore in Stain.
That isn't really rocket science now is it.
As for the rest, you said yourself that you had left to come bring it to us in delve again only 2 weeks ago.
Sorry if I'm not a mind-reader and you have now returned to Stain (but wait, that's not VC right, it's only RFM who are VC, no wait, I'm confused)
From what I can see, you have 1 character in fountain, 1 character in delve and 1 character in Stain and want to claim you are contesting all 3 regions. 
How about this... You concentrate on what VC are doing, you know... your alliance, the one that you are in and leave BoB to deal with our alliance.
So make it simple.
What "exactly" are VC doing? Are they living in Stain, Delve or Fountain? Are they trying to contest any of the regions?
Stop messing up the map thread with pointless flames about what BoB are doing and simply post about what YOU are doing.
dbp
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Cpt Pugwash
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Posted - 2006.03.24 11:48:00 -
[2075]
Originally by: DB Preacher Edited by: DB Preacher on 24/03/2006 11:26:27 Dude, don't waste your time posting rubbish.
No one takes you seriously at all, not even your own alliance according to your alliance chat.
RFM are in VC. RFM were in Stain. VC were therefore in Stain.
That isn't really rocket science now is it.
As for the rest, you said yourself that you had left to come bring it to us in delve again only 2 weeks ago.
Sorry if I'm not a mind-reader and you have now returned to Stain (but wait, that's not VC right, it's only RFM who are VC, no wait, I'm confused)
From what I can see, you have 1 character in fountain, 1 character in delve and 1 character in Stain and want to claim you are contesting all 3 regions. 
How about this... You concentrate on what VC are doing, you know... your alliance, the one that you are in and leave BoB to deal with our alliance.
So make it simple.
What "exactly" are VC doing? Are they living in Stain, Delve or Fountain? Are they trying to contest any of the regions?
Stop messing up the map thread with pointless flames about what BoB are doing and simply post about what YOU are doing.
dbp
You spread your propaganda with lies and half truths
VC as an alliance were not in Stain only RFM are in STAIN (1 corp is not the alliance)
Neither VC nor RFM have said at an time we are contesting Stain.
I never said we left Stain, only that we had been in Delve assisting SA and then only some of us not the entire corp by any means.
I never said we were contesting Delve.
I could go on to respond to your insults but this is a map thread and I will contain my response to the territorial comments above. I would apreciate it if you and you alliance could likewise try and keep to the thread/forum rules.
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DB Preacher
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Posted - 2006.03.24 11:56:00 -
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So you posted initially to agree with me that VC isn't in Stain at present.
Thanks, I appreciate it.
dbp
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UnIQu3
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Posted - 2006.03.24 13:55:00 -
[2077]
Edited by: UnIQu3 on 24/03/2006 14:00:37
Originally by: DB Preacher So you posted initially to agree with me that VC isn't in Stain at present.
Thanks, I appreciate it.
dbp
But controlling 1 system wich u dont.(9rq, where you got a pos), is enough to contest the hole region? and where is this POS you killed in stain? wasnt it one in catch?
I like to say that SA is contesting delve region, cause we have controle of yz9 80% of the time...!
Could the map maker please look trhough all these bob forum warriors posts.
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DB Preacher
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Posted - 2006.03.24 14:04:00 -
[2078]
Originally by: UnIQu3 Edited by: UnIQu3 on 24/03/2006 14:00:37
Originally by: DB Preacher So you posted initially to agree with me that VC isn't in Stain at present.
Thanks, I appreciate it.
dbp
But controlling 1 system wich u dont.(9rq, where you got a pos), is enough to contest the hole region? and where is this POS you killed in stain? wasnt it one in catch?
I like to say that SA is contesting delve region, cause we have controle of yz9 80% of the time...!
Could the map maker please look trhough all these bob forum warriors posts.
At no time have I ever said we are contesting the whole region.
Reading > *
(p.s. we killed the pos in 9rq)
dbp
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Millis
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Posted - 2006.03.24 14:45:00 -
[2079]
Edited by: Millis on 24/03/2006 14:49:30
Originally by: UnIQu3 I like to say that SA is contesting delve region, cause we have controle of yz9 80% of the time...!
Oh man ARE you really serious? This is really annoying with understandable reasons for everyone if they actually saw yz9 and the local chat EVERY day with the (S)tation (A)lliance really REFUSING to come out when they often got 10vs5. It¦s amazing how much you can lie. We¦ve even started to litterally beg them to come out...at least once...well at least TRY but they refuse. So stating what this guy here did is beyond sane.
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UnIQu3
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Posted - 2006.03.24 22:09:00 -
[2080]
DB preacher..
So controlling LGk/9RQ wich ya dont. makes hole Stain region Contested? by you ? sorry... just not right there m8
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thebold
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Posted - 2006.03.25 11:26:00 -
[2081]
Allow me to answer some of your querys.
Originally by: DB Preacher
I have no clue who Novus Nationis are. Never seen them in stain, never seen them in Delve.
They Fight You Do Not.
Originally by: DB Preacher
The rest of SA have pulled out, en masse, from Stain and any contradiction to this is simply a lie.
I can corroborate that with the following quotes by SA members:
Originally by: thebold All SA corps are moving into Southern and Northen Delve to engage the enemy on there home turf.
Originally by: Cuebick We're not dead, and we're not in Stain
The use of our opinions being quoted is seen by the public as a act of desperation and should not be held with any form of official capacity, if a official post is to be made then it is not subjective opinion but reflects ones alliance.
If you claim you can use this, I can then use your comments against you.
Originally by: DB Preacher
SE are in complete control of 4gq and we are not fighting them for control of Southern Stain at all. You will need to contact a representative of SE to confirm how far their control goes.
This has been 'undesputed since the war began. A marker has been put in place and Xenobytes have since lived in 4gq.
Originally by: DB Preacher
The West of Stain is devoid of any meaningful life since VC left.
dbp
VC are still in 37s and Western Stain you require a VC rep for this.
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olan2005
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Posted - 2006.03.26 01:03:00 -
[2082]
hmm i think syndicate should be contested ore map
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Rajon Kelper
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Posted - 2006.03.26 23:03:00 -
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olan, if you consult the map I think you will see that there already is a warzone marker over tribute.
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Jonis Sinmaker
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Posted - 2006.03.27 06:45:00 -
[2084]
Dominion Empire Alliance is in control of the 304-QS constellation in lower branch on the border of venal. These systems include F-9F6Q, JTAU-5,AH-B84, HB7R-F, O-JPKH, B-GC1T
We are allied with The Five, Forsaken Empire, and Kaos Empire.
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olan2005
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Posted - 2006.03.27 07:38:00 -
[2085]
o ye trib does have a warmarker my bat . ore map
x-f recruiting 0.0 or experienced empire players 1=pvp in groups 2=reguler corp mining ops 3. corp pvp ops
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Jonis Sinmaker
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Posted - 2006.03.27 18:48:00 -
[2086]
Edited by: Jonis Sinmaker on 27/03/2006 18:49:41 Edited by: Jonis Sinmaker on 27/03/2006 18:48:25
Originally by: Jonis Sinmaker Dominion Empire Alliance is in control of the 304-QS constellation in lower branch on the border of venal. These systems include F-9F6Q, JTAU-5,AH-B84, HB7R-F, O-JPKH, B-GC1T
We are allied with The Five, Forsaken Empire, and Kaos Empire.
Edit: NVM just saw release date of new map.
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thoth foc
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Posted - 2006.03.27 23:43:00 -
[2087]
Deklein should be marked as a warzone..
--thoth (aka orbs) [5], ex-Curse Alliance ex-DSMA
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Tasai
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Posted - 2006.03.28 04:07:00 -
[2088]
Edited by: Tasai on 28/03/2006 04:07:26 Meh delete please
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Ather Ialeas
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Posted - 2006.03.28 15:56:00 -
[2089]
Originally by: thoth foc Deklein should be marked as a warzone..
I think this was debated before the current map update and the conclusion was that there just isn't simply a big enough enemy force in Deklein to justify a warzone marker.
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Jonis Sinmaker
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Posted - 2006.03.28 17:27:00 -
[2090]
Edited by: Jonis Sinmaker on 28/03/2006 17:29:45
Originally by: Ather Ialeas
Originally by: thoth foc Deklein should be marked as a warzone..
I think this was debated before the current map update and the conclusion was that there just isn't simply a big enough enemy force in Deklein to justify a warzone marker.
I believe you are mistaken...I'm not sure which system you are hiding in but there have been incursions from Dominion Empire, Kaos Empire and Asendent Frontier.
I know, because I saw me do it with about 30 other Dominion Empire pilots everyday this weekend. Plus while we were down there we crossed paths with Asendent Frontier pilots on a few occasions. I also have reports of my pilots running into Kaos Empire pilots as well....so I can honestly say Deklien is a warzone.
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Ather Ialeas
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Posted - 2006.03.28 17:59:00 -
[2091]
Originally by: Jonis Sinmaker Edited by: Jonis Sinmaker on 28/03/2006 17:29:45
Originally by: Ather Ialeas
Originally by: thoth foc Deklein should be marked as a warzone..
I think this was debated before the current map update and the conclusion was that there just isn't simply a big enough enemy force in Deklein to justify a warzone marker.
I believe you are mistaken...I'm not sure which system you are hiding in but there have been incursions from Dominion Empire, Kaos Empire and Asendent Frontier.
I know, because I saw me do it with about 30 other Dominion Empire pilots everyday this weekend. Plus while we were down there we crossed paths with Asendent Frontier pilots on a few occasions. I also have reports of my pilots running into Kaos Empire pilots as well....so I can honestly say Deklien is a warzone.
I'm actually currently hiding in Deklein :) Yes, I know there's the ASCN ganksquad, I've been podded a couple times by them. There's also a bunch of others but haven't seen any noticeable threat or anything even reminding of some sort of war fleet in the whole Deklein area. Maybe I'm just hiding in a wrong system?
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Jonis Sinmaker
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Posted - 2006.03.28 18:27:00 -
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Edited by: Jonis Sinmaker on 28/03/2006 18:30:09 maybe 
A warzone is where two combatants fight each other over and over again. If two hostile forces goes against each other on a regular basis then it is a warzone...taking POS's down and claiming space isn't the only thing that constitutes a warzone. The end all be all of war is killing and there has been plenty of that in Deklien by hostile forces to G/Iron.
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thoth foc
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Posted - 2006.03.28 22:18:00 -
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Originally by: Ather Ialeas
Originally by: thoth foc Deklein should be marked as a warzone..
I think this was debated before the current map update and the conclusion was that there just isn't simply a big enough enemy force in Deklein to justify a warzone marker.
There isnt a big enough defensive force to warrant larger scale operations, would a "pirate infestation" marker be more appropriate? --thoth (aka orbs) [5], ex-Curse Alliance ex-DSMA
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Oceana
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Posted - 2006.03.29 05:50:00 -
[2094]
Originally by: Dhannik
The area of Lower Syndicate that OSS controls overlaps quite a bit with Upper Solitude, but not all the way out to the western-most constellation of Solitude that has exits to Upper Syndicate and Aridia.
That is why the claimed territory looks a bit large, and might have irked some of Solitude's long time residents 
I might add that NBSI Alliance have moved into Lower Syndicate and are allied with Black Reign Syndicate vs OSS corps. I think it's now something of an overstatement to suggest that the informal OSS alliance "controls" that area - at least based on our killboard you might want to suggest it's contested. 
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Ather Ialeas
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Posted - 2006.03.29 06:38:00 -
[2095]
Originally by: thoth foc
Originally by: Ather Ialeas
Originally by: thoth foc Deklein should be marked as a warzone..
I think this was debated before the current map update and the conclusion was that there just isn't simply a big enough enemy force in Deklein to justify a warzone marker.
There isnt a big enough defensive force to warrant larger scale operations, would a "pirate infestation" marker be more appropriate?
I know someone's going to hate me for saying this but maybe. Note that I do not represent any alliance or corp, I'm just a Deklein resident and more of a bystander.
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Orc A
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Posted - 2006.03.29 16:50:00 -
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I'd like to present a statement somewhat opposing to DBP's one.
boB's presence in Stain regions includes nothing more then 5 BS and 10 hacs that either sit docked or fool around from ss to ss and log off.
They have 1 POS (9rq), thats just 1 system (in which they camp an empty station). HM- and gmek area is perfectlly under SA control, and western stain is also under very little influence by bob's "invasion".
Stain armed forces are operating in multiple regions, mostlly Delve atm. Also, In HM-, not just the raven warriors are fighting for the defense of the regions, also some SGE, TAART, and some IEEX ppl.
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Blacklight
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Posted - 2006.03.29 16:53:00 -
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Originally by: Orc A I'd like to present a statement somewhat opposing to DBP's one.
boB's presence in Stain regions includes nothing more then 5 BS and 10 hacs that either sit docked or fool around from ss to ss and log off.
They have 1 POS (9rq), thats just 1 system (in which they camp an empty station). HM- and gmek area is perfectlly under SA control, and western stain is also under very little influence by bob's "invasion".
Stain armed forces are operating in multiple regions, mostlly Delve atm. Also, In HM-, not just the raven warriors are fighting for the defense of the regions, also some SGE, TAART, and some IEEX ppl.
ROFL.
I'm not even getting into a detailed arguement over that, it's just nonsense.
Everywhere north of 4GQ in Stain has been 99% locked down by BoB for about 3-4 weeks now.
Eve Blacklight Style
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Dust Angel
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Posted - 2006.03.29 17:14:00 -
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I would like to put my 2 cents in. BoB are nowhere near in controll of Stain. I have seen them on 2 occasions in stain. I primarily live in western stain, and BoB has only come into my opperating area ONCE. To say that you have these 70+ npc stations locked down is an insult to logic. You might have a small pressence around a few stations and send off some raids, but I have lived in Stain for three months and seen you TWICE that entire time. That being said, I see more OC and SE in stain than I see BoB, probably based on my location. _____________________________________ Stressed out with empire politics?
Sansha's Nation helps clear your mind.
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TWD
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Posted - 2006.03.29 17:37:00 -
[2099]
Edited by: TWD on 29/03/2006 17:42:40
Originally by: Dust Angel I would like to put my 2 cents in. BoB are nowhere near in controll of Stain. I have seen them on 2 occasions in stain. I primarily live in western stain, and BoB has only come into my opperating area ONCE. To say that you have these 70+ npc stations locked down is an insult to logic. You might have a small pressence around a few stations and send off some raids, but I have lived in Stain for three months and seen you TWICE that entire time. That being said, I see more OC and SE in stain than I see BoB, probably based on my location.
Hi. a map to help you out.
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Orc A
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Posted - 2006.03.29 18:37:00 -
[2100]
there's no need to argue, you've said your piece i said mine. I will update my view when and if it changes.
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Anathae
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Posted - 2006.03.29 18:42:00 -
[2101]
why does it show bob in control of fountain when they have a faint presence there? And why is someone deleting my posts like a noob
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CtapikKozlodoyev
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Posted - 2006.03.29 19:00:00 -
[2102]
Yup, was visiting Fountain and Aridia last couple of nights, no BoB whatsoever in aridia, lots of VC and FA though, and alot of them in Fountain aswell. Also llots of imp in fountain/aridia area.
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Soraya Silvermoon
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Posted - 2006.03.29 19:15:00 -
[2103]
A part of insmother (RA space) is contested by chimps. C-j6 is the station system under attack. Region is anything but stable...
Diplomatic statement: Diplomatic statement
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Berrik Radhok
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Posted - 2006.03.29 21:56:00 -
[2104]
Originally by: Oceana
Originally by: Dhannik
The area of Lower Syndicate that OSS controls overlaps quite a bit with Upper Solitude, but not all the way out to the western-most constellation of Solitude that has exits to Upper Syndicate and Aridia.
That is why the claimed territory looks a bit large, and might have irked some of Solitude's long time residents 
I might add that NBSI Alliance have moved into Lower Syndicate and are allied with Black Reign Syndicate vs OSS corps. I think it's now something of an overstatement to suggest that the informal OSS alliance "controls" that area - at least based on our killboard you might want to suggest it's contested. 
It's not contested because you guys arn't trying to kick us out, but just gatecamp all day. Signature file size and dimensions to big, please keep it under 400x120 and 24000 bytes - Petwraith |

Joshua Foiritain
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Posted - 2006.03.29 23:57:00 -
[2105]
Map updated, i think ive got everything, lemme know if missed something. -------
[Coreli Corporation Mainframe] |

Montero
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Posted - 2006.03.30 00:01:00 -
[2106]
BOB do not control all of that space. fact. Keep profanity & moderation discussion out of your sig, please. --Jorauk no |

The Enslaver
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Posted - 2006.03.30 00:04:00 -
[2107]
Originally by: Joshua Foiritain Map updated, i think ive got everything, lemme know if missed something.
 -------- Shinra Director
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Shivaja
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Posted - 2006.03.30 00:11:00 -
[2108]
nice April joke LOL   
Shivaja Queen of Outer Ring CHON ceo NORAD Military Commander NORAD Kill Board
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Emno
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Posted - 2006.03.30 00:12:00 -
[2109]
awesome 
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Pepperami
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Posted - 2006.03.30 00:12:00 -
[2110]
Uhm, is josh drunk? 
[Art of War][- V -] |
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Nifel
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Posted - 2006.03.30 00:14:00 -
[2111]
Edited by: Nifel on 30/03/2006 00:17:35
Originally by: Montero BOB do not control all of that space. fact.
It should have Aridia under BoB control as well. Not to mention he's completely missing out on having both the Amarr Empire and the Caldari State as BoB protectorates.
*edit*
He's also missed out on SA's claim on Agil.
"We wield swords for the sound of laughter that used to be there long ago." RKK Ranking: (MIN13) Jata |

Soraya Silvermoon
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Posted - 2006.03.30 00:16:00 -
[2112]
0.o is that a map or a prophecy?
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Abdalion

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Posted - 2006.03.30 00:18:00 -
[2113]

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Coranor
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Posted - 2006.03.30 00:24:00 -
[2114]
A vision of the future --------------
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Dianabolic
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Posted - 2006.03.30 00:24:00 -
[2115]
Nice map...
Originally by: Thomas Jefferson A society that will trade a little liberty for a little security will lose both and deserve neither
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lolz0rb
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Posted - 2006.03.30 00:26:00 -
[2116]
zomg : /
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Spartan239
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Posted - 2006.03.30 00:27:00 -
[2117]
Originally by: Shivaja nice April joke LOL   
its march 30th...
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Dianabolic
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Posted - 2006.03.30 00:29:00 -
[2118]
Originally by: Shivaja nice April joke LOL   
What's funny is you guys moan in this thread for months to get things changed, we just bribe the mapmaker.
There's a lesson to be learnt here, Shivaja.
Originally by: Thomas Jefferson A society that will trade a little liberty for a little security will lose both and deserve neither
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Phaese
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Posted - 2006.03.30 00:32:00 -
[2119]
indeed.
I lol'd. 
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The Ratfink
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Posted - 2006.03.30 00:37:00 -
[2120]
people don't know theres like a 31st of March
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Jonis Sinmaker
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Posted - 2006.03.30 00:38:00 -
[2121]
Nice....Josh is a seer of the future to come
/me bows down to might map maker
Recruiting Now! | Join us today! |

Archonon
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Posted - 2006.03.30 00:50:00 -
[2122]
Originally by: Joshua Foiritain Map updated, i think ive got everything, lemme know if missed something.
1st April _______________________ XIII's member in local and all docked in Curse XIII's fleet around -V-'s dread and they called for Blob-jamming-Backup |

Soraya Silvermoon
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Posted - 2006.03.30 00:51:00 -
[2123]
You know what scares the living crap out of alliances?
Answare: Mapmaker convoing them asking about their thoughts on the new invading force in their territory when their perfectly oblivious of any invading force...
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Raid
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Posted - 2006.03.30 01:00:00 -
[2124]
A few changes needed.
1. We're naped with the ISS and IAC 2. We are surrendered vol-me to the massive Coreli fleets 3. and we also own all of northern catch as well..
oh and space pigs can now fly in curse.
Originally by: Bared Bel'Medar Its a rare dialect called "dou'chay'ba'gh"... frequently used by members of this forum community. I was under the assumption you spoke it
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SATAN
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Posted - 2006.03.30 01:06:00 -
[2125]

WTF,
Since when do we own space???
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Azaeren
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Posted - 2006.03.30 01:13:00 -
[2126]
April 1st is about 2-3 days from now, depending on location. Nice try though.
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Kane Jacobs
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Posted - 2006.03.30 01:14:00 -
[2127]
       
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Phoenix Lord
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Posted - 2006.03.30 01:26:00 -
[2128]
That was a good fight with .5. Unfortuneately, we lost, badly :(
Nothing we could do against 10 Titans, 20 dreads, 12 carriers, a few hundred BSes and an uncountable amount of support ships.
Good fight  __________________________________________________
Quote: Hyenrg1 > i am down for light spankings but nothing crazy.
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Irrilian
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Posted - 2006.03.30 01:32:00 -
[2129]
Originally by: SATAN

WTF,
Since when do we own space???
\o/ You can be the cat herders and we can play at insurgency.
You might want to check the date on map though. - - - The Big Blue, ôExodus realised.ö |

D1ABOLIST
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Posted - 2006.03.30 01:47:00 -
[2130]
hahhaa this is lovely 
WD josh!
RA vs Lots of folks...heheh
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Archangel Deck
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Posted - 2006.03.30 02:22:00 -
[2131]
Right... ok now could u give us the real updated map? this one is 5 months early  _____________________________
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Phoenix Lord
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Posted - 2006.03.30 02:39:00 -
[2132]
Originally by: Archangel Deck Edited by: Archangel Deck on 30/03/2006 02:37:15 Notice that the map says 01:04:06
omg i didnt notice! *roll eyes*
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Quote: Hyenrg1 > i am down for light spankings but nothing crazy.
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Shiraz Merlot
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Posted - 2006.03.30 03:00:00 -
[2133]
He's just joshing you:]
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Constantinee
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Posted - 2006.03.30 03:57:00 -
[2134]
Nice little april fools joke dude :) i think all the bob space and the Red Alliance VS Alot of Folks mighta gave it away:)
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Ryoutou
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Posted - 2006.03.30 05:22:00 -
[2135]
Kudos, great one Joshua. 
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Admiral IceBlock
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Posted - 2006.03.30 05:52:00 -
[2136]
people are soo stupid these days..
"We brake for nobody"
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Komolov
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Posted - 2006.03.30 06:31:00 -
[2137]
1st April didn't come yet
-------------------- Sincerely yours, Dmitry V. Komolov FSP-B |

Crellion
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Posted - 2006.03.30 07:32:00 -
[2138]
Originally by: Komolov 1st April didn't come yet
Well by the time its 1st of April the map will be quite accurate as far as RA is concerned no? and then Josh will need to find a new joke 
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Xanataures
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Posted - 2006.03.30 07:40:00 -
[2139]
You might want to check the map, especially the soverignty options. The Five hardley has all of the north but Branch and Tenal mostly. Venal By .5. and F-E, Tribute by F-E and is being contested over by G. And at this point, Deklien is still held by IRON last I checked, what yesterday?
Please crosscheck your information as this map version is highly inaccurate.
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Ishana
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Posted - 2006.03.30 07:49:00 -
[2140]
Originally by: Xanataures You might want to check the map, especially the soverignty options. The Five hardley has all of the north but Branch and Tenal mostly. Venal By .5. and F-E, Tribute by F-E and is being contested over by G. And at this point, Deklien is still held by IRON last I checked, what yesterday?
Please crosscheck your information as this map version is highly inaccurate.
WTS clue.
Nice one josh, but you're a day early  _________________________________________________________
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Lag Fest
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Posted - 2006.03.30 08:29:00 -
[2141]
not that i complain about the map.. keep up the great work but i gotta 1 question for ya??
Were u high as a motherf**ker when u did that?
Seriously i'd like to know what u smoked.. seems to be good s**t. _______________________________________
Loved by some Hated by many Feared by all
BoB |

The Cold
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Posted - 2006.03.30 08:33:00 -
[2142]
Pwned 
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Ceratin
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Posted - 2006.03.30 08:33:00 -
[2143]
lol, although tbh ive thought most of joshua's previous maps were also laughable due to the obvious bias.
Interesting to see this 5/bob map has depicted 5 stealing space off fe tho even if it is just a joke  ------------
- All Hail, Leader of The Pod Brigade |

Uther Doull
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Posted - 2006.03.30 09:28:00 -
[2144]
lol josh you're 2 days early m8 :P
anyway, you seem pretty accurate concerning RA's space though :P
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spookz
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Posted - 2006.03.30 09:46:00 -
[2145]
Originally by: Ishana
Originally by: Xanataures You might want to check the map, especially the soverignty options. The Five hardley has all of the north but Branch and Tenal mostly. Venal By .5. and F-E, Tribute by F-E and is being contested over by G. And at this point, Deklien is still held by IRON last I checked, what yesterday?
Please crosscheck your information as this map version is highly inaccurate.
WTS clue.
Nice one josh, but you're a day early 
2 days :)
Latest Video - Leaving PA |

Joerd Toastius
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Posted - 2006.03.30 10:15:00 -
[2146]
That's a cruel thing to do to someone this early in the morning. WTS 1x Heart Attack, only used once.
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Nobues
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Posted - 2006.03.30 10:32:00 -
[2147]
nice joke m8 so can you please repost the real map ..
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Alerion
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Posted - 2006.03.30 10:36:00 -
[2148]
Hehe, it was truly hilarious - had me smiling all morning.
To get the "real" map just check the previous one at http://www.eve-files.com/media/corp/CRII/23.03.108.jpg
Step out of the spacecraft and put your hands on the airlock, SIR!
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Gyro DuAquin1
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Posted - 2006.03.30 10:36:00 -
[2149]
sry iron we did out best we couldnt stand the bistot in xzh, but ill give u guys a /me waves when iam in nonni. 
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Emno
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Posted - 2006.03.30 10:36:00 -
[2150]
Originally by: Nobues nice joke m8 so can you please repost the real map ..
i agree 5 need vale and tenal as well
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Arnold Swartzenegger
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Posted - 2006.03.30 11:09:00 -
[2151]
TBH Burn Eden probably do clain BWF/Big Blue right about now 
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quellious
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Posted - 2006.03.30 11:28:00 -
[2152]
lol :)
But, you forgot Fish contesting BoB territories ;)
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Nukeitall
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Posted - 2006.03.30 11:31:00 -
[2153]
Is stain unlabeled or is stain currently lost?
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Eelifea
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Posted - 2006.03.30 11:57:00 -
[2154]
newsflash: April Fools Day doesn't start until April 1st.
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G'ulSera
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Posted - 2006.03.30 11:59:00 -
[2155]
This made my day LMFAO 
You forgot Paara in Caldari though... it's mine i tell ya ;) *For Blood and Honour* *The difference between a killer and a soldier is a question of loyalty*
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Hans Roaming
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Posted - 2006.03.30 12:09:00 -
[2156]
I think you'll find that Mercenary Coalition owns all of Empire space.
President Huzzah Federation
Be all you can be, join the Huzzah Armed Forces today! |

Dirtyu473
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Posted - 2006.03.30 12:17:00 -
[2157]
Funniest one is . Red Vs "Lots of Folks"
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Goberth Ludwig
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Posted - 2006.03.30 12:21:00 -
[2158]
Omg ebil joshua 
- Gob
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Niraco79
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Posted - 2006.03.30 12:54:00 -
[2159]
What i do not understand: Fountain is under control of Xellas Alliance (they have POS there meaning they have ownership of those systems)..also the regular battles in Fountain are between Xellas and FA not BoB and VC...i do not mean that here we don`t see a lot of BoB and VC combats...but FA and Xellas engage on a dayly basis. Of course xellas are here with BoB permision as they are BoB`s Muppets but this means Fountain is under BoB influence not that is BoB teritory. But also maybe i am wrong ________________ THE MEGA NOOB |

Beringe
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Posted - 2006.03.30 13:17:00 -
[2160]
Hmmm...what date is it?
Ooh, April! ------------------------------------------- "Never underestimate the power of language."
--Daitan Beringe, honorary director in charge of bottles-- |
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Siopaos Soltueur
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Posted - 2006.03.30 13:57:00 -
[2161]
lol, very nice map 
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olan2005
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Posted - 2006.03.30 14:15:00 -
[2162]
err i havent seen bob in syndicate so why is that they own it on the map its wrong and i think the five only own d7-zac in venal/trib ore map
x-f recruiting 0.0 or experienced empire player 2=reguler corp mining ops 3. corp pve ops
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maria stallion
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Posted - 2006.03.30 14:38:00 -
[2163]
Josh are you just ****ed off or really drunk?
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OzaLoni
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Posted - 2006.03.30 14:49:00 -
[2164]
WTS 1 slightly used calendar, upto and including the 30th March 2006 (today) - make me an offer 

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R4d1o4ct1v3
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Posted - 2006.03.30 15:16:00 -
[2165]
uhmm.. wtf?
I think its time to find sombody else to make the maps. I will not be trusting this dude any more. ------------------- DISCLAIMER: All opinions in this post are the opinions af a week old, half eaten sandwitch and do in no way reflect the opinions of anybody within a 10km radius of the Eiffel towe |

Arianis Legaia
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Posted - 2006.03.30 15:31:00 -
[2166]
Edited by: Arianis Legaia on 30/03/2006 15:32:56 I would like to point out an error in the latest map. Impass belongs to Axiom Alliance, and is not marked as such. :)
Ascendant Frontier has also expanded and totally taken over the entirety of BoB space, didn't you know? (Happy April's 1st one day early! :P)
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Joshua Foiritain
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Posted - 2006.03.30 15:41:00 -
[2167]
Edited by: Joshua Foiritain on 30/03/2006 15:41:12
For those pondering why the map wasnt posted on the 1st of april; That would be too obvious. I was reading the ATUK split up thread and remembered april fools jokes suck if done on the correct date.
Though to prevent the biggest hellstorm of all time to figured id mark the map itself on april first, combined with RA fighting "A lot of folks", my corp owning Curse and the Bob space being marked as itll look after their invasion in June... Not everyone got the joke though 
Originally by: Soraya Silvermoon You know what scares the living crap out of alliances?
Answare: Mapmaker convoing them asking about their thoughts on the new invading force in their territory when their perfectly oblivious of any invading force...
I like that idea...  -------
[Coreli Corporation Mainframe] |
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Abdalion

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Posted - 2006.03.30 16:46:00 -
[2168]
Originally by: Joshua Foiritain Not everyone got the joke though 
Make your screenies of the thread as it is, because it will be going back to normal soon.
A few moderators got issued tinfoil beanie caps when I asked them to leave the thread alone for a little while  ___
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Mr SunTzu
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Posted - 2006.03.30 16:50:00 -
[2169]
Originally by: Joshua Foiritain
I was reading the ATUK split up thread and remembered april fools jokes suck if done on the correct date.
no just obvious jokes without imagination suck. A good april fools joke works on that day.
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maria stallion
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Posted - 2006.03.30 16:51:00 -
[2170]
Well I'm slow(even in a inty) :)
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Drilla
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Posted - 2006.03.30 17:26:00 -
[2171]
Ahaha - priceless Josh - two thumbs up!
 
Seek not to bar my way, for I shall win through - no matter the cost! |

Shin Ra
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Posted - 2006.03.30 17:51:00 -
[2172]
BURN EDEN has joined BoB, Please update Gemenite to be BoB space too. SNU were wiped out in a single forum thread, so strike them from the map too. Add a war marker for BE vs FE in Tribute.
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Dianabolic
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Posted - 2006.03.30 18:13:00 -
[2173]
Originally by: Shin Ra BURN EDEN has joined BoB, Please update Gemenite to be BoB space too. SNU were wiped out in a single forum thread, so strike them from the map too. Add a war marker for BE vs FE in Tribute.
That's BoB vs FE now. Forge ahead kind sir!
Originally by: Thomas Jefferson A society that will trade a little liberty for a little security will lose both and deserve neither
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Naphtalia
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Posted - 2006.03.30 18:18:00 -
[2174]
Not sure if you seen the map.. but a warmarker between BE and FE (or bob and fe) is silly in tribute since we don't claim tribute.
also could you add v1g constellation in Gem to F-E space.. vale is useless without that geminate constellation.
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Bruno Bonner
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Posted - 2006.03.30 18:32:00 -
[2175]
nice map
and nice joke 
regards Bruno ------ aka BinderAJ
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Beyond Horizon
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Posted - 2006.03.30 19:09:00 -
[2176]
LOL @ Coreli Corp controlling Curse Joshua 3> 
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InfernalRage
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Posted - 2006.03.30 19:28:00 -
[2177]
greatest thread ever.
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Netto
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Posted - 2006.03.30 20:08:00 -
[2178]
Originally by: R4d1o4ct1v3 uhmm.. wtf?
I think its time to find sombody else to make the maps. I will not be trusting this dude any more.
And ya see, this is what makes this a true gem. The map itself is cute, but the responses after dozens of people talking about the joke. You still have this one guy who looks at the map, takes it seriously, ignores every post in the thread, and posts his denouncement. Pure comedy! Aahahahaha!
Netto Celestial Fleet - We care. |

Ikvar
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Posted - 2006.03.30 20:17:00 -
[2179]
Originally by: Joshua Foiritain
Latest Version: Latest [
I ******* love you Josh 
Originally by: xsolarisx eve-online takes money out my credit card each month without my permission
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Raznarok
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Posted - 2006.03.30 20:52:00 -
[2180]
lol! Nice! Coreli seems to have snuck in there as well I see! 
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Constantinee
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Posted - 2006.03.30 21:05:00 -
[2181]
Originally by: Crellion
Originally by: Komolov 1st April didn't come yet
Well by the time its 1st of April the map will be quite accurate as far as RA is concerned no? and then Josh will need to find a new joke 
Pwned
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Beyond Horizon
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Posted - 2006.03.30 21:58:00 -
[2182]
Originally by: Constantinee
Originally by: Crellion
Originally by: Komolov 1st April didn't come yet
Well by the time its 1st of April the map will be quite accurate as far as RA is concerned no? and then Josh will need to find a new joke 
Pwned
orly?
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Abdalion

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Posted - 2006.03.30 22:16:00 -
[2183]
Locking this for a while, going to clean it some.
Click. ___
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Abdalion

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Posted - 2006.03.30 23:39:00 -
[2184]
Originally by: R4d1o4ct1v3 uhmm.. wtf?
I think its time to find sombody else to make the maps. I will not be trusting this dude any more.
This post wins the thread! ___
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shivan
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Posted - 2006.03.31 03:45:00 -
[2185]
Once again I ask for the contested region marker over stain to be removed as I can quite happyily fly through Stain AFK and have done so several times and only ever see SA and some times SA.
If the contested region marker over Stain cannot for whatever region be removed, then surly Stains invasion of Delve requires a contested region marker to be placed on Delve.
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Cmd Woodlouse
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Posted - 2006.03.31 04:08:00 -
[2186]
Edited by: Cmd Woodlouse on 31/03/2006 04:07:59
Originally by: shivan Once again I ask for the contested region marker over stain to be removed as I can quite happyily fly through Stain AFK and have done so several times and only ever see SA and some times SA.
If the contested region marker over Stain cannot for whatever region be removed, then surly Stains invasion of Delve requires a contested region marker to be placed on Delve.
Tbh i doubt it. And from some rare incursions i can say that BoB are infact controlling stain space, even though its npc space. stupid npc stations NEED to be removed  --------------------------------
I am G and i am IRON - as we all are brothers in arms and times of need. |

shivan
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Posted - 2006.03.31 04:25:00 -
[2187]
Originally by: Cmd Woodlouse Edited by: Cmd Woodlouse on 31/03/2006 04:07:59
Originally by: shivan Once again I ask for the contested region marker over stain to be removed as I can quite happyily fly through Stain AFK and have done so several times and only ever see SA and some times SA.
If the contested region marker over Stain cannot for whatever region be removed, then surly Stains invasion of Delve requires a contested region marker to be placed on Delve.
Tbh i doubt it. And from some rare incursions i can say that BoB are infact controlling stain space, even though its npc space. stupid npc stations NEED to be removed 
With all due respect, when exactly where you last in Stain? And don't you have your own war to be worrying about?
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Haematite
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Posted - 2006.03.31 05:25:00 -
[2188]
Edited by: Haematite on 31/03/2006 05:25:18
Originally by: shivan Once again I ask for the contested region marker over stain to be removed as I can quite happyily fly through Stain AFK and have done so several times and only ever see SA and some times SA.
Oh here we go again with the " I can afk throught stain " you sound like a broken record.
Originally by: shivan
If the contested region marker over Stain cannot for whatever region be removed, then surly Stains invasion of Delve requires a contested region marker to be placed on Delve.
How can you contest Delve when their is only ever two outcome when we meet.
1. Mass log off your Gang.
Which is most times we meet.
2. Your gang is destoyed.
As what happended from 02.46 am to 02.51 this morning, map maker can check our killboard if he needs to.
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Our Enemy call us GM's, they are not wrong, we are Masters of our Game. |

Orc A
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Posted - 2006.03.31 07:13:00 -
[2189]
With all due respect Mr BoB, camping 1 station system hardlly counts as contesting the region.
Originally by: End Yourself
hey! we are BoB's lapdogs! not Oberon's or ASCN's!!!
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DB Preacher
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Posted - 2006.03.31 07:35:00 -
[2190]
Edited by: DB Preacher on 31/03/2006 07:42:08
Just to clarify the situation... AGAIN.
Stain BoB is not contesting the whole of Stain. We are contesting the area north of 4GQ.
We have removed all resistance except 1 remaining area which is being defending by "The Raven Warrior" corp and a few other randoms. Every other system in that area is clear for the most part.
We have culled back our forces in the area as there is no need to camp 3 people with 30 every evening. Should there be an increase in numbers in the area, we will return, en masse, to deal with the threat.
SE are in control of 4GQ and south of that system.
No significant alliance controls the West of Stain, there are some very minor blips in that area but that is all.
Delve We hold this region. We control this region. Stain are stuck in two NPC systems. We keep them camped into those systems for most of the time. For most of the day they remain in ss or stations. They are not a threat to our industry nor a threat to our people. A region should only be contested if someone is actually contesting it.
I really don't think you guys get the whole map thing, you just want to lie and try and keep your names on the map but hide in Empire. It's almost a carbon copy of what happened with FA up in Fountain when they were initially kicked out. (This isn't a discussion about past FA either, what is in the past, is in the past in this thread.)
I really don't understand why people continue a pretend alliance who won't fight for territory ingame but will happily come onto the forums and say that they are contesting this and that.
If you want to contest then please, by all means, create a fleet, bring some capital ships, destroy our industrial poses, take our stations and I'll be the first on here to say "PRAISE THE LORD, OUR REGION IS CONTESTED".
Otherwise, stfu and quit whining like a 3 yr old who has been pushed out of the sandbox.
I can say with almost 100% certainty that if Delve was ever made contested by the "forces" you have in that region currently then it will be a sorry day for the map because the day after, I'll stick 5 guys in every region in the game and make it ALL contested.
dbp
Current RKK Ranking: (PSCAL6) Proficient Short Tanto
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Orc A
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Posted - 2006.03.31 07:46:00 -
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DBP, if you cant follow the thread rules, don't post in it. Also, for heavens sake, you post was almost tollerable untill that childish remark at the end of it. I was kindda hoping you suddenlly grew up or something, but oh well...
Anyways - It's Your word vs mine. I think mapmaker should have a trip down and see for himself. By the way - West stain is in full SA control, you might fail to see it due to Timezone diffrences.
Originally by: End Yourself
hey! we are BoB's lapdogs! not Oberon's or ASCN's!!!
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Dianabolic
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Posted - 2006.03.31 08:56:00 -
[2192]
There is no timezone difference, we have full coverage 23/7 - you don't control anything but the inside of your own pod.
Originally by: Thomas Jefferson A society that will trade a little liberty for a little security will lose both and deserve neither
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DB Preacher
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Posted - 2006.03.31 09:10:00 -
[2193]
Edited by: DB Preacher on 31/03/2006 09:13:17
Originally by: Orc A DBP, if you cant follow the thread rules, don't post in it. Also, for heavens sake, you post was almost tollerable untill that childish remark at the end of it. I was kindda hoping you suddenlly grew up or something, but oh well...
Anyways - It's Your word vs mine. I think mapmaker should have a trip down and see for himself. By the way - West stain is in full SA control, you might fail to see it due to Timezone diffrences.
He blatantly has seen for himself and has adjusted the map accordingly.
Stain = contested, delve = warzone.
As for childish remark... no, that's the reality of the map thread. If you can't understand that is what will happen then you really should think twice about posting.
Also, With regards breaking the rules, everytime you argue, you are also breaking the rules. This is a place for statements not discussion.
(yes, yes, I'm doing it too with this post, I know, but if no-one explains to the ignorant then they will never understand).
dbp
Current RKK Ranking: (PSCAL6) Proficient Short Tanto
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pershphanie
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Posted - 2006.03.31 11:17:00 -
[2194]
Edited by: pershphanie on 31/03/2006 11:16:38 edit - meh. im not supposed to spam here.
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bodycollecter
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Posted - 2006.03.31 11:27:00 -
[2195]
Western PB is no longer contested by SDX. It is now FREGE space.
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Random
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Posted - 2006.03.31 12:11:00 -
[2196]
Edited by: Random on 31/03/2006 12:17:39 I wuld say that north of 4gq is pretymuch empty, altho TRW (sa) and sum bobbits are fighting out in Hm-uvd and g-me2k, altho i know for a fackt its in small numbers, if that is contested shure, but controled LOL!!! Also with delve, south of Pr- is mosly small gangs of SA and north is small gangs of bobbits.. but controled by eather one LOL!!! (ALtho NOL is bobbit 100%)
And DB is a *****!!! and if u have any clue mister map maker, the u ignore him 99% of the time... Ive always liked bob, but this guy just has way to much time...
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Goberth Ludwig
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Posted - 2006.03.31 16:59:00 -
[2197]
Hi
I think you should put some kind of warzone marker or "ascn infestation" in pureblind.
- Gob
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Harry MacDougal
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Posted - 2006.03.31 20:15:00 -
[2198]
Marker #2 doesn't appear anywhere on the map
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Nifel
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Posted - 2006.03.31 20:58:00 -
[2199]
Originally by: Cmd Woodlouse Edited by: Cmd Woodlouse on 31/03/2006 04:07:59
Originally by: shivan Once again I ask for the contested region marker over stain to be removed as I can quite happyily fly through Stain AFK and have done so several times and only ever see SA and some times SA.
If the contested region marker over Stain cannot for whatever region be removed, then surly Stains invasion of Delve requires a contested region marker to be placed on Delve.
Tbh i doubt it. And from some rare incursions i can say that BoB are infact controlling stain space, even though its npc space. stupid npc stations NEED to be removed 
******* word!
/me shuffles away
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shivan
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Posted - 2006.04.01 00:12:00 -
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Originally by: DB Preacher
As for childish remark... no, that's the reality of the map thread. If you can't understand that is what will happen then you really should think twice about posting.
So calling me a child that has been pushed out of the sandbox is the level of discussion in this thread is it, I always thought a personal insult like that could be considered flaming, but hey, what do I know right. I'm the one that has a home in Stain and fights in Delve, not running agent missions in empire 
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Dianabolic
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Posted - 2006.04.01 00:22:00 -
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Originally by: shivan I'm the one that has a home in Stain and fights in Delve, not running agent missions in empire 
The pilot behind db preacher runs agent missions in empire, fights in Stain AND fights in Delve, often at the same time.
So nope, that one doesn't wash.
Originally by: Thomas Jefferson A society that will trade a little liberty for a little security will lose both and deserve neither
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Trakh Shardan
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Posted - 2006.04.01 02:08:00 -
[2202]
Originally by: DB Preacher Edited by: DB Preacher on 31/03/2006 09:13:17
Originally by: Orc A DBP, if you cant follow the thread rules, don't post in it. Also, for heavens sake, you post was almost tollerable untill that childish remark at the end of it. I was kindda hoping you suddenlly grew up or something, but oh well...
Anyways - It's Your word vs mine. I think mapmaker should have a trip down and see for himself. By the way - West stain is in full SA control, you might fail to see it due to Timezone diffrences.
He blatantly has seen for himself and has adjusted the map accordingly.
Stain = contested, delve = warzone.
As for childish remark... no, that's the reality of the map thread. If you can't understand that is what will happen then you really should think twice about posting.
Also, With regards breaking the rules, everytime you argue, you are also breaking the rules. This is a place for statements not discussion.
(yes, yes, I'm doing it too with this post, I know, but if no-one explains to the ignorant then they will never understand).
dbp
Hmm imho all the NPC systems around delve shoud be contested. Iv been living here whit my corp for the last 2 weeks and as it looks the only system whit bob init is NOL. so all of the south of NOL whit the NPC stations shoud not be in control of bob as its not in there control....
thanks mr map..
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Cmd Woodlouse
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Posted - 2006.04.01 05:51:00 -
[2203]
Originally by: Trakh Shardan
Originally by: DB Preacher Edited by: DB Preacher on 31/03/2006 09:13:17
Originally by: Orc A DBP, if you cant follow the thread rules, don't post in it. Also, for heavens sake, you post was almost tollerable untill that childish remark at the end of it. I was kindda hoping you suddenlly grew up or something, but oh well...
Anyways - It's Your word vs mine. I think mapmaker should have a trip down and see for himself. By the way - West stain is in full SA control, you might fail to see it due to Timezone diffrences.
He blatantly has seen for himself and has adjusted the map accordingly.
Stain = contested, delve = warzone.
As for childish remark... no, that's the reality of the map thread. If you can't understand that is what will happen then you really should think twice about posting.
Also, With regards breaking the rules, everytime you argue, you are also breaking the rules. This is a place for statements not discussion.
(yes, yes, I'm doing it too with this post, I know, but if no-one explains to the ignorant then they will never understand).
dbp
Hmm imho all the NPC systems around delve shoud be contested. Iv been living here whit my corp for the last 2 weeks and as it looks the only system whit bob init is NOL. so all of the south of NOL whit the NPC stations shoud not be in control of bob as its not in there control....
thanks mr map..
lol........ --------------------------------
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Xhangui Zai
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Posted - 2006.04.01 07:19:00 -
[2204]
Hi josh, can you pus tis picture over G/IRON space please?
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Cmd Woodlouse
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Posted - 2006.04.01 07:43:00 -
[2205]
Originally by: Xhangui Zai Hi josh, can you pus tis picture over G/IRON space please?
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Ather Ialeas
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Posted - 2006.04.01 07:59:00 -
[2206]
Originally by: Goberth Ludwig Hi
I think you should put some kind of warzone marker or "ascn infestation" in pureblind.
...even though most of the peeps in there at the moment are either BoB or .5.? 
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DoctorGonzo
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Posted - 2006.04.01 08:09:00 -
[2207]
Originally by: Trakh Shardan Hmm imho all the NPC systems around delve shoud be contested. Iv been living here whit my corp for the last 2 weeks and as it looks the only system whit bob init is NOL. so all of the south of NOL whit the NPC stations shoud not be in control of bob as its not in there control....
thanks mr map..
If you want to contest that area then I suggest you start trying to take down our infrastructure in those systems and replacing it with your own. I'm pretty sure Josh won't make that part of Delve contested until you've done that.
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Cell Satimo
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Posted - 2006.04.01 11:25:00 -
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Originally by: shivan Once again I ask for the contested region marker over stain to be removed as I can quite happyily fly through Stain AFK and have done so several times and only ever see SA and some times SA.
If the contested region marker over Stain cannot for whatever region be removed, then surly Stains invasion of Delve requires a contested region marker to be placed on Delve.
In Delve, I see approx. 30 BoB Sovreign systems and 5 Outposts. I see 0 Stain sovreign systems and 0 outposts.
In case SA pilots needs to check before re-posting, You can see this by pressing F10 to bring up the map, click on 'stars' tab, click on 'BoB' and 'Stain Alliance' buttons respectively.
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Draaken
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Posted - 2006.04.01 11:37:00 -
[2209]
Could we get a separate link for the April Fool's version for all those of us who missed it? It's been said to be the only really good joke so far... ____________________ first!!1!! -Capsicum |

Goberth Ludwig
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Posted - 2006.04.01 11:59:00 -
[2210]
Originally by: Ather Ialeas
Originally by: Goberth Ludwig Hi
I think you should put some kind of warzone marker or "ascn infestation" in pureblind.
...even though most of the peeps in there at the moment are either BoB or .5.? 
my post was before the big ec- thingy, and has nothing to do with that - it is about the ascn activity in pureblind during the last month (if you live in there I am pretty sure u saw us)
- Gob
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Elve Sorrow
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Posted - 2006.04.01 12:12:00 -
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Edited by: Elve Sorrow on 01/04/2006 12:13:21 Edited by: Elve Sorrow on 01/04/2006 12:12:56
Bleh nvm.
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Ituralde
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Posted - 2006.04.01 17:25:00 -
[2212]
Originally by: Draaken Could we get a separate link for the April Fool's version for all those of us who missed it? It's been said to be the only really good joke so far...
I would just like to comment on the irony that on April 1, the map is 'normal' Fear is the mind-killer. |

shivan
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Posted - 2006.04.02 03:29:00 -
[2213]
Originally by: Dianabolic
Originally by: shivan I'm the one that has a home in Stain and fights in Delve, not running agent missions in empire 
The pilot behind db preacher runs agent missions in empire, fights in Stain AND fights in Delve, often at the same time.
So nope, that one doesn't wash.
Uhm, this is around the time where I would normaly say prove it, but I'm not here to start a flame war as it's not what this thread is for, although others who shall remain nameless seem hell bent on trying to take it that way just so people won't argue back.
Going back to you're comment about having 23/7 coverage over Stain, maybe then you could tell me how I afk'd from 4gq to hm-uvd AND back again in 1 night and survived. And before you say you where up north attacking G, this happened last week, not this week, next weekend or next month. But last week where your apparent 'invasion' of Stain was still '23/7'.
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Dianabolic
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Posted - 2006.04.02 03:34:00 -
[2214]
Originally by: shivan
Originally by: Dianabolic
Originally by: shivan I'm the one that has a home in Stain and fights in Delve, not running agent missions in empire 
The pilot behind db preacher runs agent missions in empire, fights in Stain AND fights in Delve, often at the same time.
So nope, that one doesn't wash.
Uhm, this is around the time where I would normaly say prove it, but I'm not here to start a flame war as it's not what this thread is for, although others who shall remain nameless seem hell bent on trying to take it that way just so people won't argue back.
Going back to you're comment about having 23/7 coverage over Stain, maybe then you could tell me how I afk'd from 4gq to hm-uvd AND back again in 1 night and survived. And before you say you where up north attacking G, this happened last week, not this week, next weekend or next month. But last week where your apparent 'invasion' of Stain was still '23/7'.
Try moving a) on a main and b) in something bigger than a shuttle.
fwiw I can afk thru Delve 99% of the time, I obviously choose not to because that would be pretty idiotic in 0.0, no?
You obviously don't think that the character you use is worth keeping an eye on whilst travelling, what makes you think we'd then think he's worth chasing down?
Originally by: Thomas Jefferson A society that will trade a little liberty for a little security will lose both and deserve neither
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Krollji
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Posted - 2006.04.02 04:33:00 -
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Dear Mr. Foiritain,
The map under items "12" and "B" refer to the SunStorm Dominion in Pure Blind. All corporations that were in the SunStorm Dominion have returned to the Ekliptika Alliance.
The SunStorm Dominion is now a private holding in the hands of the former Prime Minister of Ekliptika.
References to "SUNSTORM DOMINION" should therefore be changed to "EKLIPTIKA".
Thank you,
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Krollji Minister of State Ekliptika (EKP)
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Abdalion

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Posted - 2006.04.02 05:51:00 -
[2216]
Originally by: Krollji Dear Mr. Foiritain,
The map under items "12" and "B" refer to the SunStorm Dominion in Pure Blind. All corporations that were in the SunStorm Dominion have returned to the Ekliptika Alliance.
The SunStorm Dominion is now a private holding in the hands of the former Prime Minister of Ekliptika.
References to "SUNSTORM DOMINION" should therefore be changed to "EKLIPTIKA".
Thank you,
I wish everyone could post in similar fashion in this thread, without resorting to the usual.
Thank you for reading the rules of this thread.
Few hours warning before a major cleanup of this thread. Edit your posts to conform or we will. A simple edit with a "nm" as someone else did earlier will work fine.
This is not a discussion thread. ___
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Dust Angel
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Posted - 2006.04.02 08:07:00 -
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Originally by: DoctorGonzo
Originally by: Trakh Shardan Hmm imho all the NPC systems around delve shoud be contested. Iv been living here whit my corp for the last 2 weeks and as it looks the only system whit bob init is NOL. so all of the south of NOL whit the NPC stations shoud not be in control of bob as its not in there control....
thanks mr map..
If you want to contest that area then I suggest you start trying to take down our infrastructure in those systems and replacing it with your own. I'm pretty sure Josh won't make that part of Delve contested until you've done that.
Contesting a NPC region is not who has the most POS up, but rather those who inhabit and live in the npc stations. As for Stain, BoB has no real pressence in stain that i can tell. _____________________________________ Stressed out with empire politics?
Sansha's Nation helps clear your mind.
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shivan
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Posted - 2006.04.02 15:49:00 -
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Originally by: Dianabolic
Try moving a) on a main and b) in something bigger than a shuttle.
fwiw I can afk thru Delve 99% of the time, I obviously choose not to because that would be pretty idiotic in 0.0, no?
You obviously don't think that the character you use is worth keeping an eye on whilst travelling, what makes you think we'd then think he's worth chasing down?
FYI
a) this is my main, as I said, I live in Stain and fight in Delve.
b) last time i checked a ceptor is bigger than a shuttle 
Again I'll restate my point. Bob are no where to be seen in Stain right now, and seeing as they have gone up north, Stain has achived its goals of wanting BoB out of Delve. Therefore I now ask for the contested marker to be lifted off of Stain and replaced onto Delve.
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AnubsiRa
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Posted - 2006.04.02 16:37:00 -
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Plz take a look on Political Situation in Scalding Pass/Insmother etc. RA Left these Regions to Cache and Curse. All Station¦s are taken over by -V-/CHIMP/LV/KOS Forces.
And Cache btw has more LV etc Inside as RA it seem¦s so take a look and build your own Opinion plz.
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Orc A
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Posted - 2006.04.02 16:37:00 -
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IEEX of SA have regained full control of 9rq-L8 system, the 1 and only system bob were in control of during their campaign.
BoB presence in Stain region is now non-existant.
Originally by: End Yourself
hey! we are BoB's lapdogs! not Oberon's or ASCN's!!!
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Ghost Reaper
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Posted - 2006.04.02 19:55:00 -
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u need to sort the curse region out, CC, and Cruel intentions only own a max of 5 systems, the rest is control by PHA and ILN and ISS (LV and chimp dnt use these parts anymore) if someone could sort that out id be greatful!!!!
gr
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Light Darkness
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Posted - 2006.04.02 23:39:00 -
[2222]
Edited by: Light Darkness on 02/04/2006 23:41:00
Situation for -V-:
Scalding Pass: - All Stations under control - Space "mostly" under Allied control (a "few" RA POS in this Region)
Insmother: - All Stations under Allied Forces (LV/CHIMP/-V-/KOS) control - Space "mostly" under Allied control (a "few" RA POS in this Region)
Cache/Curse(VOL-MI/H-ADOC): - fights between RA and Allied Forces (contested space)
Thats are the view from -V- and dont speak for our Allied friends.
Regards /LD
*-V-President* *-V-Fleet Command*
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Chowdown
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Posted - 2006.04.03 10:13:00 -
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Originally by: Light Darkness Edited by: Light Darkness on 02/04/2006 23:41:00
Situation for -V-:
Scalding Pass: - All Stations under control - Space "mostly" under Allied control (a "few" RA POS in this Region)
Insmother: - All Stations under Allied Forces (LV/CHIMP/-V-/KOS) control - Space "mostly" under Allied control (a "few" RA POS in this Region)
Cache/Curse(VOL-MI/H-ADOC): - fights between RA and Allied Forces (contested space)
Thats are the view from -V- and dont speak for our Allied friends.
Regards /LD
LV beleive this to be a fair representation of the current situation
Originally by: Ginger Magician They always have been lamers and dishonourable pvpers.
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Fargas
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Posted - 2006.04.03 11:33:00 -
[2224]
Situation for RA:
Cache: - All Stations under control - Space "mostly" under RA control
Insmother/Curse(VOL-MI/H-ADOC)/Scalding Pass/Detorid/Tenerifis/Wicked Creek: - fights between RA and Allied Forces (contested space)
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Light Darkness
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Posted - 2006.04.03 11:48:00 -
[2225]
Originally by: Fargas Situation for RA:
Cache: - All Stations under control - Space "mostly" under RA control
...is correct but N-RAEL/M9U/K-I mostly camped...
Originally by: Fargas
Insmother/Curse(VOL-MI/H-ADOC)/Scalding Pass/Detorid/Tenerifis/Wicked Creek: - fights between RA and Allied Forces (contested space)
....hmm not really Sir. We got some nice fights in XV- and SG-. But tbh Sir the most part of the fights goes into Curse...
Best Regards /LD
*-V-President* *-V-Fleet Command*
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Fargas
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Posted - 2006.04.03 14:00:00 -
[2226]
you stated your view of the situation, so did i this is not a discussion thread, so you can keep storyes about who camp where for another threads CYA
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Nebba Kenezzer
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Posted - 2006.04.03 14:41:00 -
[2227]
Zloba, bring a fleet to those locations if you'd like a war marker

Nebba - The Vocal Majority
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DoctorGonzo
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Posted - 2006.04.03 15:28:00 -
[2228]
Edited by: DoctorGonzo on 03/04/2006 15:33:13
Originally by: Orc A IEEX of SA have regained full control of 9rq-L8 system, the 1 and only system bob were in control of during their campaign.
BoB presence in Stain region is now non-existant.
SA have moved back to the the Northern part Stain (lol @ the regained full control comment - regained full control from who, who did you beat?) now that BoB are on operations in the North. We will be back, probably before the next map update.
And from a Bob point of view we were in full control of everything North of 4GQ. Any SA that undocked or left their deep space safe spots were destroyed promptly.
Get Your BoB Protection Kit Here |

Chowdown
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Posted - 2006.04.03 15:55:00 -
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Originally by: Fargas you stated your view of the situation, so did i this is not a discussion thread, so you can keep storyes about who camp where for another threads CYA
Quite correct, in this case I beleive it will come down to Joshuas interpretation, as he lives near by I am sure he will not find this to tricky.
Originally by: Ginger Magician They always have been lamers and dishonourable pvpers.
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HeadHunta II
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Posted - 2006.04.03 19:03:00 -
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Originally by: Fargas you stated your view of the situation, so did i this is not a discussion thread, so you can keep storyes about who camp where for another threads CYA
Yup agreed on that. Scalding pass is a warzone but should be marked as V space for now. All 3 station systems are under control. Like you said, who is camping where is irrelevant in this thread. Here the military superiority counts + who owns the station systems and how long. And thats def. V for quite a while now in both points.
"-V- Vice President" "-V- Minister of Foreign affairs" "CEO Ascendancy-Inc."
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Archonon
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Posted - 2006.04.03 19:24:00 -
[2231]
Edited by: Archonon on 03/04/2006 19:24:53
Originally by: Light Darkness Cache/Curse(VOL-MI/H-ADOC): - fights between RA and Allied Forces (contested space)
Good jocke No -v- or other monkey coalition contested smthg in Curse. Blobing is not constesting. Stay in ur blob and stop to deal with Curse. _______________________
XIII > 1vs1 ? -LV- > yeah wait 2 min, 1 -v- 1 Kos 1 Chimp 1 MC are on the way XIII > Wtf ?? -LV- > Ohh u run !! Noobish RA !! *%%*&&* russian !! XIII > i'm french m8 . |

Ithildin
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Posted - 2006.04.03 21:59:00 -
[2232]
Slightly unrelated.
Zhuge: you messed up Joshua's latest link, could you fix it back? (it's currently hard-linked to 23.03.108 map) Also, the link to the "April fools" is actually the correct latest link (ad it displays the 23.03.108 map), unless my browser's playing tricks on me. The linky used for April Fools is what should be entered up in latest.
Originally by: KilROCK
Originally by: Arkanor Gallente missileboat might be cool.
Pod yourself till you got no skills.[
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Joshua Foiritain
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Posted - 2006.04.03 22:50:00 -
[2233]
Originally by: Ithildin Slightly unrelated.
Zhuge: you messed up Joshua's latest link, could you fix it back? (it's currently hard-linked to 23.03.108 map) Also, the link to the "April fools" is actually the correct latest link (ad it displays the 23.03.108 map), unless my browser's playing tricks on me. The linky used for April Fools is what should be entered up in latest.
Ive fixed the Latest link in the original post, the april fools map was originally simply placed over the latest.jpg file, since i put the normal back up the latest.jpg wont display the april fools edition.
Ill upload the april edition under a seperate name tommorowish. -------
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Oceana
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Posted - 2006.04.03 23:24:00 -
[2234]
Hmmm. New map but ....
I wasn't joking when I suggested putting a "contested" into Lower Syndicate. NBSI Alliance, Black Reign Syndicate, Supremacy and Galactic Aurora effectively control Y9G and surrounding systems. That totals over 600 members fighting OSS "Alliance," and living in the area. (Not even counting other allied corps that are not formally in our Alliances.)
So far NBSI have a kill/loss ratio vs Goonies alone of over 100:1, lol. Please consider at least showing that there's a conflict there - with fleet battles every weekend and daily pvp for a month with up to 150 kills by NBSI alone in a single day, there's something going on down there.
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Morris Falter
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Posted - 2006.04.04 00:34:00 -
[2235]
Edited by: Morris Falter on 04/04/2006 00:44:59 wrong place, apologies. carry on..
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UnIQu3
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Posted - 2006.04.04 07:08:00 -
[2236]
Bob is nowhere to be seen in stain space.
Check their killboard.
So remove contested marker please.
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Shifu
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Posted - 2006.04.04 07:50:00 -
[2237]
stain is contested space, it was and it will be!
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olan2005
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Posted - 2006.04.04 09:56:00 -
[2238]
there right syndicate has nbsi and others attacking oss . plz add a contested marker 2 it ore map
x-f recruiting contact me ingame -require screenshot of u character selection screen -have ts server -all member active base -if u noy |

Joshua Foiritain
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Posted - 2006.04.04 11:28:00 -
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Originally by: Oceana Hmmm. New map but ....
Old map actually. -------
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shivan
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Posted - 2006.04.04 13:47:00 -
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Edited by: shivan on 04/04/2006 13:49:10 I retract the request for a contested region marker to be placed on Delve.
You need to rename marker A
bob are not in Stain, even by their own admission they are not. If you wanner leave it contested between SE and SA fine, but BoB are not in Stain.
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Rael Anshak
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Posted - 2006.04.04 19:56:00 -
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Edited by: Rael Anshak on 04/04/2006 20:16:04
Originally by: shivan Edited by: shivan on 04/04/2006 13:49:10 I retract the request for a contested region marker to be placed on Delve.
You need to rename marker A
bob are not in Stain, even by their own admission they are not. If you wanner leave it contested between SE and SA fine, but BoB are not in Stain.
BoB have left stain for a few days to take care of business up north. We are in no way done with you.
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Hettar
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Posted - 2006.04.04 23:08:00 -
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Huff Tech Claims Western and North Aridia, routes from zinkon in zor-azor to Syndicate Space, we contest BoB's claim to Aridia.
Hettar Director Huff Technologies Alliance Spokesman.
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King Leonidas
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Posted - 2006.04.04 23:15:00 -
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Originally by: Hettar Huff Tech Claims Western and North Aridia, routes from zinkon in zor-azor to Syndicate Space, we contest BoB's claim to Aridia.
Hettar Director Huff Technologies Alliance Spokesman.
We have no claim on Aridia as it is Empire Space.
We merely asked for a warzone to be put there to warn new players of the potential danger in that area... and was granted one as such.
Add Huff to the warzone or mark it simply as pirate infestation.
King
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Remedial
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Posted - 2006.04.05 16:45:00 -
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Originally by: Oceana Hmmm. New map but ....
I wasn't joking when I suggested putting a "contested" into Lower Syndicate. NBSI Alliance, Black Reign Syndicate, Supremacy and Galactic Aurora effectively control Y9G and surrounding systems. That totals over 600 members fighting OSS "Alliance," and living in the area. (Not even counting other allied corps that are not formally in our Alliances.)
So far NBSI have a kill/loss ratio vs Goonies alone of over 100:1, lol. Please consider at least showing that there's a conflict there - with fleet battles every weekend and daily pvp for a month with up to 150 kills by NBSI alone in a single day, there's something going on down there.
This is idiotic. S-U has between 100-200 players active in it beginning 2-3 hours after downtime and lasting until 1-2 hours beforehand. Galactic Aurora are most often seen camping the MHC gate or traveling to the 6-C gate via M2- than doing ANYTHING in Y9G. The last time we sent a fleet to Y9G, we found a total of 5 black reign/NBSI in system and killed a ratting dreadnought. Sitting AFK in Y9G station all day, occasionally running the 10/10 next door, and hunting miners in solitude or Harroule does not mean you can contest anything.
An NBSI/BRS/GA fleet of more than 10 ships has not entered S-U, the capital of OSS space in the last 2 months. OSS controls 65 belts of crokite in the S-U vicinity. There is clearly no contest of that space. Y9G is not held by OSS, but it certainly isn't held by any of the above alliances, either. The map should be updated to reflect that OSS controls the JQA constellation and that Y9G/UTKS are a "no man's land" that nobody really holds.
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Angry Dan
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Posted - 2006.04.05 20:24:00 -
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I've been looking for the real old maps. So far, the only one I could get was This ancient one by Kalshirith (v1.3 - 28/03/2003). It's hiding on MMORPG.com. If anyone feels like hosting it or dredging there browsers cache folders for others, I think the eve community would love you for ever. Possibly in a unhealthy way. ++++++++++++++++++++ Founder member of the Huzzah Federation. Remember, the grass is greener on our side of the fence Widowmakers director Fear my kneepads of allure!
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Oceana
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Posted - 2006.04.05 20:25:00 -
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Originally by: Remedial
This is idiotic. S-U has between 100-200 players active in it beginning 2-3 hours after downtime and lasting until 1-2 hours beforehand. Galactic Aurora are most often seen camping the MHC gate or traveling to the 6-C gate via M2- than doing ANYTHING in Y9G. The last time we sent a fleet to Y9G, we found a total of 5 black reign/NBSI in system and killed a ratting dreadnought. Sitting AFK in Y9G station all day, occasionally running the 10/10 next door, and hunting miners in solitude or Harroule does not mean you can contest anything.
An NBSI/BRS/GA fleet of more than 10 ships has not entered S-U, the capital of OSS space in the last 2 months. OSS controls 65 belts of crokite in the S-U vicinity. There is clearly no contest of that space. Y9G is not held by OSS, but it certainly isn't held by any of the above alliances, either. The map should be updated to reflect that OSS controls the JQA constellation and that Y9G/UTKS are a "no man's land" that nobody really holds.
I think you are out of date about what the fleets have been doing. Have a look at this thread, and I suggest that's a better place to discuss/argue?
Getting back to the map: we're not especially contesting S-U (yet), although NBSI have people who live in that system full time now, lol. However,we are certainly part of the group that claims Y9G and M2-, which is the area that I'm saying is contested for the purposes of the map.
I invite you all to look at our killboard, and those of our allies, to see the locations of our main activities.
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Remedial
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Posted - 2006.04.06 05:48:00 -
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I'd invite you to see our killboard. You guys don't defend Y9G because you don't live there. If anything you live off in Solitude and make incursions to fight around VV- when you can match 1/2 our numbers. If you want to claim that area, tell the map maker.
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UnIQu3
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Posted - 2006.04.06 14:24:00 -
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Originally by: Rael Anshak Edited by: Rael Anshak on 04/04/2006 20:16:04
Originally by: shivan Edited by: shivan on 04/04/2006 13:49:10 I retract the request for a contested region marker to be placed on Delve.
You need to rename marker A
bob are not in Stain, even by their own admission they are not. If you wanner leave it contested between SE and SA fine, but BoB are not in Stain.
BoB have left stain for a few days to take care of business up north. We are in no way done with you.
The map is to reflect the ongoing situation in the world of eve. But as you said so good yourself, "bob are not in Stain"
Suit ya self :P
Regards UnIQU3
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olan2005
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Posted - 2006.04.07 00:12:00 -
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if u have a look at iron announcment there pulling out of deklin map needs changin ore map
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pershphanie
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Posted - 2006.04.08 02:37:00 -
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FE relinquishes any claim we have over tenal to kaos empire.
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SirMolle
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Posted - 2006.04.08 06:55:00 -
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Edited by: SirMolle on 08/04/2006 06:58:49 Request to;
1) Remove Cloud Ring and Fade as G territory, since G have officially stated they are disbanding. 2) Remove Deklein as IRON territory since they have publically stated they will go elsewhere and claim no space.
Links; G statement IRON statement
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un5een
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Posted - 2006.04.08 09:39:00 -
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Originally by: SirMolle Edited by: SirMolle on 08/04/2006 06:58:49 Request to;
1) Remove Cloud Ring and Fade as G territory, since G have officially stated they are disbanding. 2) Remove Deklein as IRON territory since they have publically stated they will go elsewhere and claim no space.
Links; G statement IRON statement
are u in a hurry? ----------------------------------------------- there are 6 million ways to die... chose one!
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WarpOut
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Posted - 2006.04.08 12:04:00 -
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Edited by: WarpOut on 08/04/2006 12:04:14 wrong character -edit
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Enfoe
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Posted - 2006.04.08 12:05:00 -
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Originally by: un5een
Originally by: SirMolle Edited by: SirMolle on 08/04/2006 06:58:49 Request to;
1) Remove Cloud Ring and Fade as G territory, since G have officially stated they are disbanding. 2) Remove Deklein as IRON territory since they have publically stated they will go elsewhere and claim no space.
Links; G statement IRON statement
are u in a hurry?
care to verify your intentions to the mapmaker? If G is disbanding there should be NP relinquishing your claims to fade/cloud ring and removing you from the map.
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Cmd Woodlouse
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Posted - 2006.04.08 15:09:00 -
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Originally by: SirMolle Edited by: SirMolle on 08/04/2006 06:58:49 Request to;
1) Remove Cloud Ring and Fade as G territory, since G have officially stated they are disbanding. 2) Remove Deklein as IRON territory since they have publically stated they will go elsewhere and claim no space.
Links; G statement IRON statement
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WETRAIN
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Posted - 2006.04.09 00:46:00 -
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Babylon Federal Republic - Anihilated remove them from the map please . thx Josh . . -When People are Ready . . . The Master Will Come -
I was once called unforg1ven I am Unfo i just have a different name and mind now .. same habbits
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TuRtLe HeAd
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Posted - 2006.04.09 12:14:00 -
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Edited by: TuRtLe HeAd on 09/04/2006 12:18:00 Nice map.
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Turkantho
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Posted - 2006.04.09 13:32:00 -
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Originally by: SirMolle Edited by: SirMolle on 08/04/2006 06:58:49 Request to;
1) Remove Cloud Ring and Fade as G territory, since G have officially stated they are disbanding.
Links; G statement
Request granted, but replace G with Dusk and Dawn [D¦] please http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=321027 ________
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Martin Mckenna
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Posted - 2006.04.09 15:19:00 -
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i claim jita
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Crucifier
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Posted - 2006.04.09 22:43:00 -
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I believe all fix space should be contested between fix vs sa/huzzah
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Orc A
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Posted - 2006.04.09 23:26:00 -
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Officially: Please remove contest/warzone marker from stain regions as it's not contested by anyone nor is there any fighting there.
Please add Contested market over FiX Space - SA/HF renewed invasion.
Originally by: End Yourself
hey! we are BoB's lapdogs! not Oberon's or ASCN's!!!
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Nebuli
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Posted - 2006.04.10 03:50:00 -
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Originally by: Fargas Situation for RA:
Cache: - All Stations under control - Space "mostly" under RA control
Insmother/Curse(VOL-MI/H-ADOC)/Scalding Pass/Detorid/Tenerifis/Wicked Creek: - fights between RA and Allied Forces (contested space)
Insmother, scalding pass, detorid, tenerifis and wicked creak "contested" I dont think so sorry.
V/LV/KOS/CHIMP have these regions fully in their control, LDs summery is far more accurate, Cache I would say is contested, but non of the other regions.
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Tutsie
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Posted - 2006.04.10 08:09:00 -
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Originally by: Nebuli Insmother, scalding pass, detorid, tenerifis and wicked creak "contested" I dont think so sorry.
V/LV/KOS/CHIMP have these regions fully in their control, LDs summery is far more accurate, Cache I would say is contested, but non of the other regions.
Originally by: Zhuge Liang Rules for this thread
To all alliances:
Please pick ONE person per alliance/faction to post about your claims from either side, and stick to that. Too many people from the same alliance/faction posting differing information causes my head to explode trying to figure out who is who and trying to decipher what they are saying. I am sure the mapmaker would prefer the clarity. It is also acceptable for you to eve-mail the mapmaker in game.
No arguing in this thread. Be polite, respectful, or don't post. And please display your corp and alliance to avoid misunderstandings.
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liquidism
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Posted - 2006.04.10 08:28:00 -
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[G] Alliance disbanded and the involved corporations formed the new [D2] alliance. the territorial claims remain unchanged. please change the former [G] reference to [D2] - and maybe a new color for our new alliance ;)
tyvm //liq
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Chowdown
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Posted - 2006.04.10 10:46:00 -
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After our GM assitance Cache is in a state of Flux, please mark as contested.
Originally by: Ginger Magician They always have been lamers and dishonourable pvpers.
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DoctorGonzo
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Posted - 2006.04.10 11:10:00 -
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Originally by: liquidism - and maybe a new color for our new alliance ;)
tyvm //liq
Pink to match the colour we have you on the BoB killboard! 
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The Enslaver
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Posted - 2006.04.10 17:03:00 -
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Edited by: The Enslaver on 10/04/2006 17:06:43 Need.. New... Map...
/me starts clawing own eyes out.  -------- Shinra Director
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Joshua Foiritain
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Posted - 2006.04.10 17:58:00 -
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I need to learn how to count, 7 + 10 != 12  -------
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Angry Dan
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Posted - 2006.04.10 23:06:00 -
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Huzzah Federation, Stain Alliance and a few friends [1] are attacking FiX. Theres definately a warzone in Querious, as we are attacking in force. FAT-GP & surrounds are contested space.
[1] Believe me, I was shocked when I saw just who was on the list. ++++++++++++++++++++ Founder member of the Huzzah Federation. Remember, the grass is greener on our side of the fence Widowmakers director Fear my kneepads of allure!
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fastwind
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Posted - 2006.04.11 01:12:00 -
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NFC is claiming all the deklien region as posted in alliance disscution forums this region has been handed over to NFC by IRON. Proud member of D-S-L |
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Emno
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Posted - 2006.04.11 04:40:00 -
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when you change g to d2 you might want to change the bit around western pure blind as its a bit misleading atm as afaik g(now d2) don't claim that area its neutral space with an iss outpost in p-2 pic
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Avernus
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Posted - 2006.04.11 17:25:00 -
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Originally by: Angry Dan Huzzah Federation, Stain Alliance and a few friends [1] are attacking FiX. Theres definately a warzone in Querious, as we are attacking in force. FAT-GP & surrounds are contested space.
[1] Believe me, I was shocked when I saw just who was on the list.
This is an accurate statement.
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Orc A
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Posted - 2006.04.11 22:21:00 -
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To clearefy: SA is contesting the whole of Querios and not just the catch part of fix territory.
Originally by: End Yourself
hey! we are BoB's lapdogs! not Oberon's or ASCN's!!!
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Double TaP
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Posted - 2006.04.11 23:15:00 -
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Originally by: Joshua Foiritain Edited by: Joshua Foiritain on 10/04/2006 21:18:55
I need to learn how to count, 7 + 10 != 12 
Update will come tommorowish.
Yay! Except it is tomorrow. Guess its coming on the ish.
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Crucifier
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Posted - 2006.04.11 23:23:00 -
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Give us a new map already :(
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Joshua Foiritain
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Posted - 2006.04.11 23:36:00 -
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Edited by: Joshua Foiritain on 11/04/2006 23:37:30
Pffft, 24 minutes left till the end of tommorow, hence the new map 
I think i got everything. -------
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