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Remedial	Posted - 2006.03.07 15:02:00 - [1951] I don't believe that Syndicate can properly said to be "infested" with pirates anymore. Certainly there are pirates out and about, particularly around the 6-C, MHC, and Y9G series of gates, but the pirate presence has been greatly diminished over the past few months as OSS has taken up greater patrols of the area. I don't think the pirate problem in Syndicate is now any worse than it is in any other popular section of 0.0 space near Empire.
Drilla	Posted - 2006.03.07 15:31:00 - [1952] Excellent stuff as always Josh, keep up the good work! A small idea - the alliances that you list by acronyms, can you put them in a small legend? would be awesome :) Seek not to bar my way, for I shall win through - no matter the cost!
FolkoDemon	Posted - 2006.03.07 15:38:00 - [1953] Originally by: Alasse Cuthalion Roaming gangs of frigates unwilling to engage anything other than lone mining/npc'ing ships hardly warrants marking it as a "war zone" imo. Bring me a proper fleet to chew on, on a daily basis and we'll consider your request. I'm sorry but I have to disagree. First of all, there wouldn't be any of our presence in these regions, if this war wouldn't happened. Second thing, is that even if we often - but not always - move in frigates, we are still present there. Of course our task is to gank your miners and chainers. You see something wrong with that? You don't do that? And still Stain is marked as war zone. If you want to discuss why we don't engage your 60hac gang with 10 ceptors to get fair fights, please start new thread :) Apart from that, big thanks to Tribal Souls for all fights we had till now, both in Stain and Paragon Soul, was nice to see carrier in action too :) ----- Quote: This world is made of Love & Peace! V. t. S.
thebold	Posted - 2006.03.07 16:00:00 - [1954] SA's Map Claim: We ARE at war with Tribal Souls,BOB,FIX SA on a daily basis killing in both Paragon Soul, Period Basis, Delve and Stain. As is all 3 abouve enemie parties engaging in the 4 abouve regions. The map requires war marker number 5 on the regions of Delve, Period Basis and Paragon Soul. This marker is used purly to show active war zones and hostile engagements just like Querious is highlighted now. If BOB/FIX/Tribal Refute these claims, then let it be known that SA war marker number 5 should no longer hold BOB/Tribal nor FIX having Stain as a hostile war zone. FIX Hardly come to Stain- They are engaged in Empire BOB Bring also Gangs into Stain on a nightly basis as we do to the abouve 3 regions. And refuting these claims is saying gangs of hostile ships creating a war zone is not applicable then... there for it is not applicable to Stains region to be marked. All 3 vs SA parties are consitantly engaging in all 4 regions on the map. Those are the facts.
Dianabolic	Posted - 2006.03.07 16:07:00 - [1955] BoB disagree that period basis requires a warzone, as is stated by the op for this request you merely use it to travel thru, there is no pitched battles and hardly any losses from either side. A war zone would denote pitched battles, I would think, those do not happen in Period Basis. Originally by: Thomas Jefferson A society that will trade a little liberty for a little security will lose both and deserve neither
FolkoDemon	Posted - 2006.03.07 16:35:00 - [1956] When we move to Paragon Soul thru Period Basis, we check most main systems there, including popular chaining places, thats why I wanted war icon there in first place. Also, I actually belive we were there every two days, last few days it's been every day. I think it's more then enough to mark it war zone. -----
Alasse Cuthalion	Posted - 2006.03.07 16:52:00 - [1957] Nobody's denying that you don't pass through the Period Basis or Delve regions, you clearly do. But that is ALL you do, it is not a WAR ZONE. For example: Monday: 1 bs lost, 2 frigates killed. Sunday: 1 hac lost, 2 frigates killed. Saturday: 0 losses, 0 kills. The above stats are for Delve only and are 100% correct to my knowledge, if there any kills missing from our killboard please contact me via eve mail to have this corrected. On the other hand, you currently have BNC living in your own region fighting toe to toe with SA on a daily basis. Current RKK Ranking: (CAL15) Gensui
thebold	Posted - 2006.03.07 16:55:00 - [1958] Originally by: Dianabolic BoB disagree that period basis requires a warzone, as is stated by the op for this request you merely use it to travel thru, there is no pitched battles and hardly any losses from either side. Fair enough Originally by: Dianabolic A war zone would denote pitched battles, I would think, those do not happen in Period Basis. Correct meerly ganks, But you do not note to the fights from Delve :) But then you have no millitary in PB Originally by: Dianabolic You do not come to period basis every night. YOu are not based in period basis or putting any pressure on that area. We do.. We have to it is a requirment to reach Tribal Souls... Tpar and nearby systems are normaly bussy Originally by: Dianabolic BoB, however, have teams permanently based in Stain, so your logic is flawed (imo). SA is having a hard time finding these 'teams' apart from the one that is based from Agil
FolkoDemon	Posted - 2006.03.07 16:57:00 - [1959] I agree, there is not much BoB presence in Period Basis, however we kill also MC members and TS members there, who like to chain in your systems. Look at it this way: we kill everything we see in Period Basis (however lots of these guys are no noobs and safespot really fast ;) ), but all we see is not really BoB. However according to map, it's claimed BoB space, and we brought war there. So it should be fair to mark it war zone. -----
hoebela	Posted - 2006.03.07 17:13:00 - [1960] Edited by: hoebela on 07/03/2006 17:14:41 Originally by: FolkoDemon I agree, there is not much BoB presence in Period Basis, however we kill also MC members and TS members there, who like to chain in your systems. Look at it this way: we kill everything we see in Period Basis (however lots of these guys are no noobs and safespot really fast ;) ), but all we see is not really BoB. However according to map, it's claimed BoB space, and we brought war there. So it should be fair to mark it war zone. No place for trolling. Period basis is one of the most peaceful 0.0 regions in EVE. A few frigates travelling through our region does not mean a warzone. - TWD (wrong default char)
DoctorGonzo	Posted - 2006.03.07 17:13:00 - [1961] Originally by: FolkoDemon I agree, there is not much BoB presence in Period Basis, however we kill also MC members and TS members there, who like to chain in your systems. Look at it this way: we kill everything we see in Period Basis (however lots of these guys are no noobs and safespot really fast ;) ), but all we see is not really BoB. However according to map, it's claimed BoB space, and we brought war there. So it should be fair to mark it war zone. Well according to your own Killboard you have killed less than one ship a day over the last month in Period Basis (Minus shuttles, pods and newbie ships) - does that really constitute a war zone marker? Get Your BoB Protection Kit Here
DoctorGonzo	Posted - 2006.03.07 17:17:00 - [1962] ..and Delve is even worse you've only killed 16 ships in the last month (again minus shuttles, pods and newbie ships) - No war zone marker for either region in my opinion. Get Your BoB Protection Kit Here
FolkoDemon	Posted - 2006.03.07 17:20:00 - [1963] Originally by: hoebela Edited by: hoebela on 07/03/2006 17:14:41 Originally by: FolkoDemon I agree, there is not much BoB presence in Period Basis, however we kill also MC members and TS members there, who like to chain in your systems. Look at it this way: we kill everything we see in Period Basis (however lots of these guys are no noobs and safespot really fast ;) ), but all we see is not really BoB. However according to map, it's claimed BoB space, and we brought war there. So it should be fair to mark it war zone. No place for trolling. Period basis is one of the most peaceful 0.0 regions in EVE. A few frigates travelling through our region does not mean a warzone. - TWD (wrong default char) No trolling in my post. What is wrong with telling thruth. TS, BoB and MC chaining there, are good at what they do, and ss fast when cought by superior numbers. Still we are forcing them to ss. Those who fail, loose ships there. -----
TWD	Posted - 2006.03.07 17:47:00 - [1964] Originally by: FolkoDemon No trolling in my post. What is wrong with telling thruth. TS, BoB and MC chaining there, are good at what they do, and ss fast when cought by superior numbers. Still we are forcing them to ss. Those who fail, loose ships there. A warzone is when two (or more) groups fight. There is no fighting, because you don't want to fight us. It doesn't get more simple than that.
FolkoDemon	Posted - 2006.03.07 17:51:00 - [1965] Edited by: FolkoDemon on 07/03/2006 17:55:17 For two groups to fight, first thing that is needed are two groups. I didn't saw any organized BoB gang in Period Basis so far, when we go to Delve ok - u mobilize in seconds and face us, but you are simply not present in PB. Thats why we didn't had fights there yet I think. -added after edit, so this don't turn into flame war: - Second reason may be that we simply are diffrent time zones etc, but IMHO fact we are there and harassing you or your allies at any chance, should be enough of the reason to make it war zone. -----
TWD	Posted - 2006.03.07 18:06:00 - [1966] Originally by: FolkoDemon Edited by: FolkoDemon on 07/03/2006 17:55:17 For two groups to fight, first thing that is needed are two groups. I didn't saw any organized BoB gang in Period Basis so far, when we go to Delve ok - u mobilize in seconds and face us, but you are simply not present in PB. Thats why we didn't had fights there yet I think. -added after edit, so this don't turn into flame war: - Second reason may be that we simply are diffrent time zones etc, but IMHO fact we are there and harassing you or your allies at any chance, should be enough of the reason to make it war zone. When a few pilots go to a random region and get a kill now and then it doesn't make it a warzone. Same situation at this. The Period Basis/ Delve regions are as peaceful as always and you make no difference to it. If you actually bring people and actively fight us I would agree to it being a warzone. Currently its far from that.
FolkoDemon	Posted - 2006.03.07 18:13:00 - [1967] Very well, then remove war marker from Stain. When your gang comes sometimes, it forces us to mobilize and fight (or to ignore you), but eventually you go away quite fast and life goes as before. Sounds fair TWD? Apart from that - i made my point, you guys made yours. This is not thread for discussion, now it's only for Joshua to decide, and mods will prolly delete these notes soon, so I won't post in this thread anymore :) TWD start new thread if you want, and we can discuss this more :) -----
DoctorGonzo	Posted - 2006.03.07 18:50:00 - [1968] Originally by: FolkoDemon Very well, then remove war marker from Stain. When your gang comes sometimes, it forces us to mobilize and fight (or to ignore you), but eventually you go away quite fast and life goes as before. Sounds fair TWD? No - read my posts above - you have less than one kill a day in Period Basis and one kill every two days in Delve. Where as we're killing lots of SA every day in Stain and Catch. There is a big difference. Get Your BoB Protection Kit Here
Durvaul	Posted - 2006.03.07 21:20:00 - [1969] Edited by: Durvaul on 07/03/2006 21:22:25 SA, you will not flood the map with warzone markers to keep your ego in check Your claims are to put across you are a amazing alliance with huge power. The map is for heavily contested regions. When one alliance or corp contest the region and tries to take the region and make it a warzone. You are doing neither. Fix state you are not attempting to take Catch and Tribal Souls claim you are just ganking easy kills in Paragon and not contesting. Neither are you contesting BOB Space. Now u call me a nub and so on and thats fine. But sumone has to stop you attemtping to make our your area huge like RA. Do your properganda elsewhere. RA is falling apart and if you keep on the same will happen to you. NPC region or not you can still be kicked out. Regardless of your personal opinions. This is for the map thread and not properganda. Omg, Mods Get off My Sig Mmkay? Recruitment Is Open EMF Webpage, Click On EMF Public Discussions
Ishtar Amin	Posted - 2006.03.08 01:55:00 - [1970] Chimp do not own northern immensea, they control the south yes but not the north.
Seleene	Posted - 2006.03.08 11:05:00 - [1971] Originally by: FolkoDemon No trolling in my post. What is wrong with telling thruth. TS, BoB and MC chaining there, are good at what they do, and ss fast when cought by superior numbers. Still we are forcing them to ss. Those who fail, loose ships there. I can't speak for the dozens of losses that are obviously being inflicted against BoB and TS, but MC is losing ships in Period Basis? We lost a Mega in NOL about two weeks ago. I think that's actually in Delve, not PB. Yes, we've seen your frig gangs around TPAR from time to time, but they've had no effect on the few MC in the area. Period Basis has got to be one of the most silent and peaceful places in EVE. It's at the ass end of nowhere and if you pull up the "Ships destroyed in the last 24 hours" map, it's going to be very dead at almost any time of the week. If you want to make PB a WAR ZONE, then go for the fun option and bring a fleet to TPAR to try to take the station. Then, if you win, base a permanent force out of there and try to contest the area. THAT is a war zone, baby. - Who is the MC? Watch!
ToxicFire	Posted - 2006.03.08 12:52:00 - [1972] The Core Collective (TCC) and Black Reign Syndicate (BRS) at war in south syndicate/solitude border zone BRS also at war with other local alliances.
Geralt Rivia	Posted - 2006.03.08 17:33:00 - [1973] Originally by: Seleene snip THAT is a war zone, baby. wouldn`t that be contesting??
Jaqs	Posted - 2006.03.08 21:01:00 - [1974] Bashing at each other is for the forums not official map thread.
Illuvator Brightstar	Posted - 2006.03.09 06:30:00 - [1975] You might be able to legitimately place an "ASCN Infestation" in Pure Blind/Fade/Dek. Judging by the ships killed in last 24 hrs, pure blind and dek especially are lit up like a christmas tree, though I can't attest to how much of that is the ASCN presence and how much is something else.
Satanista	Posted - 2006.03.09 14:59:00 - [1976] Originally by: Illuvator Brightstar You might be able to legitimately place an "ASCN Infestation" in Pure Blind/Fade/Dek. Judging by the ships killed in last 24 hrs, pure blind and dek especially are lit up like a christmas tree, though I can't attest to how much of that is the ASCN presence and how much is something else. found this on ASCN killboards, sees to be due to them: Current Campaigns NameStart dateKillsISK (M)LossesISK (M)Efficiency Ze Northern Slaughter - 2006-032006-03-014045865.441601816.676.35% also something from earlier today: http://ascn.eve-killboard.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=76561
Cmd Woodlouse	Posted - 2006.03.09 18:49:00 - [1977] Originally by: Satanista Originally by: Illuvator Brightstar You might be able to legitimately place an "ASCN Infestation" in Pure Blind/Fade/Dek. Judging by the ships killed in last 24 hrs, pure blind and dek especially are lit up like a christmas tree, though I can't attest to how much of that is the ASCN presence and how much is something else. found this on ASCN killboards, sees to be due to them: Current Campaigns NameStart dateKillsISK (M)LossesISK (M)Efficiency Ze Northern Slaughter - 2006-032006-03-014045865.441601816.676.35% also something from earlier today: http://ascn.eve-killboard.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=76561 What has a killboard to do in this thread? Anyway, if the hobbits want a war marker, why dont they ask with a main? To excited about that single carrier kill like it was something uber that cripples an entire alliance? -------------------------------- I am G and i am IRON - as we all are brothers in arms and times of need.
Illuvator Brightstar	Posted - 2006.03.09 20:56:00 - [1978] Originally by: Satanista Originally by: Illuvator Brightstar You might be able to legitimately place an "ASCN Infestation" in Pure Blind/Fade/Dek. Judging by the ships killed in last 24 hrs, pure blind and dek especially are lit up like a christmas tree, though I can't attest to how much of that is the ASCN presence and how much is something else. found this on ASCN killboards, sees to be due to them: Current Campaigns NameStart dateKillsISK (M)LossesISK (M)Efficiency Ze Northern Slaughter - 2006-032006-03-014045865.441601816.676.35% also something from earlier today: http://ascn.eve-killboard.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=76561 Killboard stats mean nothing in this really. I just mentioned it because from looking at the map, the area is quite lit up with someone losing a lot of ships, can't say who really.
Gyro DuAquin1	Posted - 2006.03.10 00:42:00 - [1979] unimportant ganking Would u mind to post with ur main?

Abdalion	Posted - 2006.03.10 03:14:00 - [1980] Originally by: Illuvator Brightstar You might be able to legitimately place A "you might" doesn't cut it in this thread. Alt trolls aren't welcome here. Center for Advanced Studies didn't elect you to speak for them. ___ forum rules \| [email protected]


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