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Knorkor Spartan Advanced Mining It's Not Fair 15	Posted - 2013.02.07 01:40:00 - [1] - Quote Seriously, give it 200 m3 more. We need at least be able to have enough different mining crystals in there. I tend to concentrate on one ore, while mining a big variety into jets. I need those crystals around. 200 m3 more won't break anything. Thanks.
Rengerel en Distel Amarr Science and Industry 1155	Posted - 2013.02.07 02:27:00 - [2] - Quote get some from your orca support? With the increase in shiptoasting, the Report timer needs to be shortened.
RubyPorto Sniggwaffe YOUR VOTES DON'T COUNT 2586	Posted - 2013.02.07 03:06:00 - [3] - Quote Get them from your fleet support or anchor a GSC. This is EVE - Everybody Versus Everybody. "the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built and we want to keep that (infact, this is much more representative of the consensus opinion within CCP)." -CCP Solomon
Knorkor Spartan Advanced Mining It's Not Fair 15	Posted - 2013.02.07 05:20:00 - [4] - Quote RubyPorto wrote: Get them from your fleet support or anchor a GSC. Why do you assume there is a fleet all the time? There is not. I still use a Hulk. Mackinaw has 100m3 more and can have all mining crystals in cargo. There is no reason for the Hulk not having enough cargo for that.
RubyPorto Sniggwaffe YOUR VOTES DON'T COUNT 2587	Posted - 2013.02.07 05:45:00 - [5] - Quote Knorkor wrote: RubyPorto wrote: Get them from your fleet support or anchor a GSC. Why do you assume there is a fleet all the time? There is not. I still use a Hulk. Mackinaw has 100m3 more and can have all mining crystals in cargo. There is no reason for the Hulk not having enough cargo for that. The Hulk is designed for mining with Hauler Support. The Mackinaw is designed for solo mining. You are using a hammer to put a screw into a 2x4 and complaining that it is hard. Anchor a GSC. This is EVE - Everybody Versus Everybody. "the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built and we want to keep that (infact, this is much more representative of the consensus opinion within CCP)." -CCP Solomon
Knorkor Spartan Advanced Mining It's Not Fair 15	Posted - 2013.02.07 05:47:00 - [6] - Quote It's not hard, it is annoying. That is all. There is no difference in yield or anything. All I do right now is dock up and get different crystals. Because that is faster than slowboating to a GSC and risk getting killed because I have not been aligned.
RubyPorto Sniggwaffe YOUR VOTES DON'T COUNT 2587	Posted - 2013.02.07 05:50:00 - [7] - Quote Then maybe this fit is for you. I'll repeat. You are using a Hammer to drive a Screw into a 2x4 and complaining that it doesn't work well. [Hulk, EHRMEGERD Crystals] Expanded Cargohold II Expanded Cargohold II [Empty Med slot] [Empty Med slot] [Empty Med slot] [Empty Med slot] Modulated Strip Miner II, Veldspar Mining Crystal II Modulated Strip Miner II, Veldspar Mining Crystal II Modulated Strip Miner II, Veldspar Mining Crystal II Medium Cargohold Optimization II Medium Cargohold Optimization II This is EVE - Everybody Versus Everybody. "the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built and we want to keep that (infact, this is much more representative of the consensus opinion within CCP)." -CCP Solomon
Dave Stark 1842	Posted - 2013.02.07 06:47:00 - [8] - Quote you're making miners look bad, biomass yourself. "100k for notifications of stupidity, i love this bounty system."

CCP Eterne C C P C C P Alliance 2062	Posted - 2013.02.07 08:40:00 - [9] - Quote I have deleted a troll post from this thread. New Eden Community Representative GÇ+ New Eden Illuminati GÇ+ Fiction Adept @CCP_Eterne GÇ+ @EVE_LiveEvents

TheSkeptic Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 110	Posted - 2013.02.07 08:50:00 - [10] - Quote Confirming Hulk cargo is fine ...

Tau Cabalander Retirement Retreat Working Stiffs 1547	Posted - 2013.02.07 10:16:00 - [11] - Quote Knorkor wrote: Seriously, give it 200 m3 more. We need at least be able to have enough different mining crystals in there. I tend to concentrate on one ore, while mining a big variety into jets. I need those crystals around. 200 m3 more won't break anything. Thanks. If you sell your Hulk, you could buy a Mackinaw or several Retrievers, and be much happier. If it will help, you can contract the Hulk to me for 205m ISK, as that's the current Jita sell price and I could probably use another. Hisec only of course. You might want to read the Dev Blog - CCP Tallest - Ship Balancing: Mining Barges, especially the section on cargo and the amount of crystals they can haul. CCP Tallest wrote: Covetor and Hulk are meant to be used in a group, so while they have the highest mining output, they also have the smallest ore bays. The reduction of the cargo holds does have an unfortunate side effect for miners; there is much less space for mining crystals. We alleviated this slightly by cutting the volume of mining crystals in half, but it is now something that miners have to plan for before they go mining.
Dasola Rookie Empire Citizens Rookie Empire 141	Posted - 2013.02.07 12:08:00 - [12] - Quote Knorkor wrote: RubyPorto wrote: Get them from your fleet support or anchor a GSC. Why do you assume there is a fleet all the time? There is not. I still use a Hulk. Mackinaw has 100m3 more and can have all mining crystals in cargo. There is no reason for the Hulk not having enough cargo for that. Then your doing it wrong. Hulk is clearly intended for fleet mining operations. Mackinaw has larger cargobay, becouse its intended for solo mining. Personally i think exhumers are fine as they are now, they have clear roles now, instead of hulk being end of all thigns... [Insert something funny or smart here] Good lord has set me on path, sometimes im confused about what he wants from me. But path leads on, towards why he placed me on this wonderfull planet...
Owen Dallencour Novaku Inc Rebel Alliance of New Eden 0	Posted - 2013.02.07 14:10:00 - [13] - Quote For what it's worth, have to agree -- while it would be nice to have, hulk cargo size is fine. As posted above by the dev, better planning.
Iosue Black Sky Hipsters 157	Posted - 2013.02.07 15:42:00 - [14] - Quote keep in mind, you don't really need a replacement crystals for all three lazers. i usually only keep one or two of each type. that's enough flexibility for my needs.
Styth spiting Ion Corp. NightSong Directorate 281	Posted - 2013.02.07 21:28:00 - [15] - Quote Knorkor wrote: Seriously, give it 200 m3 more. We need at least be able to have enough different mining crystals in there. I tend to concentrate on one ore, while mining a big variety into jets. I need those crystals around. 200 m3 more won't break anything. Thanks. 350m3 allows you to hold 14 crystals plus the 3 you have fitted. That gives you enough crystals for 5 ore types and 2 additional crystals. Or if you're in high sec 3 crystals for each ore type and 5 additional crystals for your main ore. Or 3 crystals for each ore type with 1 additional crystal for each and 2 crystals for you main ore. Seriously you need more then that? You're planning on mining 10+ hours without stopping in a station? Or if you're mining with an orca the orca cant give you access to some? Well then fit a medium cargohold optimization I and gain an additional 50m3. Or fit 2 and hold 4 or 5 more crystals. There are so many options available to you, adapt and get used to it.
Kate stark Perkone Caldari State 3	Posted - 2013.02.07 21:50:00 - [16] - Quote Styth spiting wrote: Knorkor wrote: Seriously, give it 200 m3 more. We need at least be able to have enough different mining crystals in there. I tend to concentrate on one ore, while mining a big variety into jets. I need those crystals around. 200 m3 more won't break anything. Thanks. 350m3 allows you to hold 14 crystals plus the 3 you have fitted. That gives you enough crystals for 5 ore types and 2 additional crystals. Or if you're in high sec 3 crystals for each ore type and 5 additional crystals for your main ore. Or 3 crystals for each ore type with 1 additional crystal for each and 2 crystals for you main ore. Seriously you need more then that? You're planning on mining 10+ hours without stopping in a station? Or if you're mining with an orca the orca cant give you access to some? Well then fit a medium cargohold optimization I and gain an additional 50m3. Or fit 2 and hold 4 or 5 more crystals. There are so many options available to you, adapt and get used to it. actually it's 13, or you won't be able to swap crystals.
Rengerel en Distel Amarr Science and Industry 1155	Posted - 2013.02.07 22:25:00 - [17] - Quote Kate stark wrote: Styth spiting wrote: Knorkor wrote: Seriously, give it 200 m3 more. We need at least be able to have enough different mining crystals in there. I tend to concentrate on one ore, while mining a big variety into jets. I need those crystals around. 200 m3 more won't break anything. Thanks. 350m3 allows you to hold 14 crystals plus the 3 you have fitted. That gives you enough crystals for 5 ore types and 2 additional crystals. Or if you're in high sec 3 crystals for each ore type and 5 additional crystals for your main ore. Or 3 crystals for each ore type with 1 additional crystal for each and 2 crystals for you main ore. Seriously you need more then that? You're planning on mining 10+ hours without stopping in a station? Or if you're mining with an orca the orca cant give you access to some? Well then fit a medium cargohold optimization I and gain an additional 50m3. Or fit 2 and hold 4 or 5 more crystals. There are so many options available to you, adapt and get used to it. actually it's 13, or you won't be able to swap crystals. because it'd be impossible to put a crystal in the jet can he's obviously using already, or jettison one crystal to switch? With the increase in shiptoasting, the Report timer needs to be shortened.
Kate stark Perkone Caldari State 4	Posted - 2013.02.07 22:53:00 - [18] - Quote Rengerel en Distel wrote: Kate stark wrote: Styth spiting wrote: Knorkor wrote: Seriously, give it 200 m3 more. We need at least be able to have enough different mining crystals in there. I tend to concentrate on one ore, while mining a big variety into jets. I need those crystals around. 200 m3 more won't break anything. Thanks. 350m3 allows you to hold 14 crystals plus the 3 you have fitted. That gives you enough crystals for 5 ore types and 2 additional crystals. Or if you're in high sec 3 crystals for each ore type and 5 additional crystals for your main ore. Or 3 crystals for each ore type with 1 additional crystal for each and 2 crystals for you main ore. Seriously you need more then that? You're planning on mining 10+ hours without stopping in a station? Or if you're mining with an orca the orca cant give you access to some? Well then fit a medium cargohold optimization I and gain an additional 50m3. Or fit 2 and hold 4 or 5 more crystals. There are so many options available to you, adapt and get used to it. actually it's 13, or you won't be able to swap crystals. because it'd be impossible to put a crystal in the jet can he's obviously using already, or jettison one crystal to switch? you shouldn't have to have empty space to swap a crystal anyway, it's bad coding on CCP's part.
Not Politically Correct Veerhouven Ventures 139	Posted - 2013.02.07 23:49:00 - [19] - Quote Knorkor wrote: Seriously, give it 200 m3 more. We need at least be able to have enough different mining crystals in there. I tend to concentrate on one ore, while mining a big variety into jets. I need those crystals around. 200 m3 more won't break anything. Thanks. I never mine without one, or two, Orcas, but . . . . Have you considered putting spare crystals in a GSC?
Intar Medris Federation of Elsinore 51	Posted - 2013.02.08 03:21:00 - [20] - Quote RubyPorto wrote: Then maybe this fit is for you. I'll repeat. You are using a Hammer to drive a Screw into a 2x4 and complaining that it doesn't work well. [Hulk, EHRMEGERD Crystals] Expanded Cargohold II Expanded Cargohold II [Empty Med slot] [Empty Med slot] [Empty Med slot] [Empty Med slot] Modulated Strip Miner II, Veldspar Mining Crystal II Modulated Strip Miner II, Veldspar Mining Crystal II Modulated Strip Miner II, Veldspar Mining Crystal II Medium Cargohold Optimization II Medium Cargohold Optimization II God that fit asking to be ganked. Seriously you need Invulnablity Feild or two, and a survey scanner. Maybe even fit a shield booster in case of emergency. And no shield rigs? You're more defenseless than a new born baby. I try to be nice and mind my business just shooting lasers at rocks. There is just way too many asshats in New Eden for that to happen.

Knorkor Spartan Advanced Mining It's Not Fair 15	Posted - 2013.02.08 03:24:00 - [21] - Quote Intar Medris wrote: God that fit asking to be ganked. Seriously you need Invulnablity Feild or two, and a survey scanner. Maybe even fit a shield booster in case of emergency. And no shield rigs? You're more defenseless than a new born baby. Yup, that is why I would not use it. I use a tank fit, especially since I am in 0.0. But does not matter, I bought a macki and it can hold all the crystals I need while only losing about 150m3 yield per minute. To be honest, I still want that change since I see no reason why the mack should be able to carry a wide variety of crystals while the Hulk is not.
RubyPorto Sniggwaffe YOUR VOTES DON'T COUNT 2615	Posted - 2013.02.08 03:25:00 - [22] - Quote Intar Medris wrote: RubyPorto wrote: Then maybe this fit is for you. I'll repeat. You are using a Hammer to drive a Screw into a 2x4 and complaining that it doesn't work well. [Hulk, EHRMEGERD Crystals] God that fit asking to be ganked. Seriously you need Invulnablity Feild or two, and a survey scanner. Maybe even fit a shield booster in case of emergency. And no shield rigs? You're more defenseless than a new born baby. Maybe the name of the fit could have been a clue. Also, Shield Boosters to help save you from ganks? Knorkor wrote: Yup, that is why I would not use it. I use a tank fit, especially since I am in 0.0. But does not matter, I bought a macki and it can hold all the crystals I need while only losing about 150m3 yield per minute. To be honest, I still want that change since I see no reason why the mack should be able to carry a wide variety of crystals while the Hulk is not. Because, as has been pointed out to you numerous times, the Mackinaw is designed for Solo mining, and the Hulk is designed for use with fleet support. This is EVE - Everybody Versus Everybody. "the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built and we want to keep that (infact, this is much more representative of the consensus opinion within CCP)." -CCP Solomon
Ling Sora NanoCore Systems 0	Posted - 2013.02.08 17:35:00 - [23] - Quote Each exhumer has it's on role. When will people realize this? I guess old habits die hard.
Kate stark Perkone Caldari State 16	Posted - 2013.02.08 17:47:00 - [24] - Quote Ling Sora wrote: Each exhumer has it's on role. When will people realize this? I guess old habits die hard. except the skiff.
Hannibal Ord Fer-De-Lance 85	Posted - 2013.02.11 21:22:00 - [25] - Quote Knorkor wrote: Intar Medris wrote: God that fit asking to be ganked. Seriously you need Invulnablity Feild or two, and a survey scanner. Maybe even fit a shield booster in case of emergency. And no shield rigs? You're more defenseless than a new born baby. Yup, that is why I would not use it. I use a tank fit, especially since I am in 0.0. But does not matter, I bought a macki and it can hold all the crystals I need while only losing about 150m3 yield per minute. To be honest, I still want that change since I see no reason why the mack should be able to carry a wide variety of crystals while the Hulk is not. This is the most totally ******** thing I have read since I've been away from this game.
Charles the Miner Amarr Empire 7	Posted - 2013.02.11 21:43:00 - [26] - Quote For mining ships, bigger and more is always better!
Bugsy VanHalen Society of lost Souls 455	Posted - 2013.02.12 14:50:00 - [27] - Quote Knorkor wrote: RubyPorto wrote: Get them from your fleet support or anchor a GSC. Why do you assume there is a fleet all the time? There is not. I still use a Hulk. Mackinaw has 100m3 more and can have all mining crystals in cargo. There is no reason for the Hulk not having enough cargo for that. ^^ I agree with this. The HULK has enough fleet dependance without needing to store crystals in the ORCA as well. Having a cargo hold large enough to hold three of each crystal would not in any way be game breaking. Not having enough room for crystals can be game breaking though, at least for HULKS not in a fleet. Some players do still jetcan mine with HULKS, although I would use jetted freight cans as they hold way more, and never despawn. A mack can easily hold a full set of crystals as it only needs two of each. The HULK needs 50% more crystals, so should have a 50% larger cargo hold. And I do mean cargo hold, as in where the spare crystals are stored, not ORE hold where the ore goes, ore holds are as they should be.
Kate stark 101	Posted - 2013.02.12 16:36:00 - [28] - Quote Bugsy VanHalen wrote: Knorkor wrote: RubyPorto wrote: Get them from your fleet support or anchor a GSC. Why do you assume there is a fleet all the time? There is not. I still use a Hulk. Mackinaw has 100m3 more and can have all mining crystals in cargo. There is no reason for the Hulk not having enough cargo for that. ^^ I agree with this. The HULK has enough fleet dependance without needing to store crystals in the ORCA as well. Having a cargo hold large enough to hold three of each crystal would not in any way be game breaking. Not having enough room for crystals can be game breaking though, at least for HULKS not in a fleet. Some players do still jetcan mine with HULKS, although I would use jetted freight cans as they hold way more, and never despawn. A mack can easily hold a full set of crystals as it only needs two of each. The HULK needs 50% more crystals, so should have a 50% larger cargo hold. And I do mean cargo hold, as in where the spare crystals are stored, not ORE hold where the ore goes, ore holds are as they should be. i agree with this, if i had to agree with anything. ccp say they like choices, so a cargo hold big enough for exactly three of each type of crystal (minus one, as they will already be in the strips) plus 25m3 spare so you can swap crystals due to the bad coding is the no brainer. your choice is then have crystals for every ore, so you're prepared for every situation, or alternatively sacrifice some types of ore in order to carry reloads. it's a choice, ccp like choices, right?
Bugsy VanHalen Society of lost Souls 456	Posted - 2013.02.12 21:44:00 - [29] - Quote Considering a set of T2 crystals lasts about 10 hours, there really is no reason to need to carry spares. nobody is going to mine for 10 hours without hauling. the hauler can deliver spares, or if solo, when you go to switch to your hauler swap them out. There is no need to use crystals until they pop. a crystal 90% used will still refine into the same minerals as a fresh unused crystal. Always start with fresh crystals, and reprocess the used ones to get 80-90% of the crystals cost back in minerals. If you make your own crystals this can save you loads of isk. even buying BPC's when you recycle most of the material costs, you will be making them far cheaper than you can buy them.
Kate stark 108	Posted - 2013.02.12 22:33:00 - [30] - Quote there's also no reason why a ship shouldn't be able to carry a full compliment of crystals, but c'est la vie.



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