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2005.07.27 20:23:00
Mercenary Coalition has declared war on SMASH Alliance. After 24 hours fighting can legally occur between those involved.

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Originally by: 0Virtu0

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I've seen SMASH in empire...maybe twice? But, I guess it does it does make more of an impact than "you're -10".

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Originally by: juduzz

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the one question that whould be on all our minds..

will there be a vid at the end?!?!?!

ps GL

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Run and fall or stand in line, in the end what's your's is mine

Originally by: Koth Krakenworth

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First KIA, and now you steal our targets too!

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Originally by: Koth Krakenworth

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First KIA, and now you steal our targets too!

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Originally by: Marichek

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I see ... no more macheriels (sp?) in SMASHs future :P

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Originally by: Pehova Mindtriq

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Don't know why but im hoping SMASH win this.

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Originally by: Leosian

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Originally by: Pehova Mindtriq

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Don't know why but im hoping SMASH win this.

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Thank you for your comments.

We'll keep them in mind with contracts under consideration.

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Originally by: Leosian

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Originally by: Pehova Mindtriq

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Don't know why but im hoping SMASH win this.

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Thank you for your comments.

We'll keep them in mind with contracts under consideration.

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Originally by: Karneh Vorous

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Originally by: Leosian

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Originally by: Pehova Mindtriq

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Don't know why but im hoping SMASH win this.

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Thank you for your comments.

We'll keep them in mind with contracts under consideration.

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Threats like these are why we have so many forum alts.

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Originally by: MuthaTrucka

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Oh All out MC War? Damn Seleene can I bring some marshmallows to roast so me and foyle can have Smores?

Where's Nero when you need him playing a fiddle while Rome burns...

Foyle I will bring the butter

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Originally by: Weco

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Then dont smack ffs! If you cant back up your words with action, then dont say it!

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Originally by: Ras Blumin

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Did you really demand 550m? If so, why so much?

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Originally by: Pehova Mindtriq

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Originally by: Weco

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Then dont smack ffs! If you cant back up your words with action, then dont say it!

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Are you implying that i smacktalked?

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Originally by: General Killah

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And thanks to the Stain guy(s), seems like several of you cheer for us?

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Originally by: General Killah

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2005.07.27 17:20:00
Hello Sir,

Today 2 members of your alliance (General Killah and Emperor) attacked and downed two NSN members.
- Recluse XXX, Apoc
- Fearn, Tempest

In direct response to this act of hostility we downed one ROME member.
- General Killah, Vengeance

We have shown no hostilities towards your alliance as we are off contract, these attacks where totally unprovoked. You should be aware that the MC is a politicly neutral organization only acting hostile when contracted to do so.

We demand to see a full official apology for your actions and a full reimbursement for the ships and destroyed equipment totalling the value of 550 million ISK. The MC might be a neutral organization but we will not tolerate unprovoked attacks on our members. If you fail to meet these demands before 23:59 EVE time today (Wednesday 27 july) we will be forced to take the appropriate measures.

Mail or convo me for more info.

Have a nice day
Leafo, NSN - The Mercenary Coalition
http://mc.stylii.com

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Originally by: General Killah

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Funny thing is the battleships had horrible loot and insurance on each is 30 mil, maybe 100 million ISK would be proper compensation(if we had even considered that, which we didn't).

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Originally by: Foyle

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Leafo,
What you should have also done - in you evemail, link him to your videos.

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Originally by: Threx

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Originally by: Foyle

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Leafo,
What you should have also done - in you evemail, link him to your videos.

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lol when have videos ever been an accurate depiction in happenings in a war

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Originally by: Aturayd

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Since when have videos and forums been an accurate description of the happenings of war. Its just a bunch of propaganda bs for third party as$-kissers. Oh well.. might as well have this thread continue.. the ego balloon has to fill up sometime.

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Originally by: Leafo

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Words

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Originally by: Aturayd

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would you make a video promoting your services with you being the ones getting your asses handed to you?

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Originally by: Ras Blumin

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Originally by: Leafo

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Words

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Well, I would've preferred if the answer came from the MC, but GK was quicker.

I'll repeat the 2nd question; Why did you ask for so much isk?

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Originally by: Masken

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Thats pal prize acually..

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Originally by: Ras Blumin

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Originally by: Masken

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Thats pal prize acually..

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And then you wonder why SMASH didn't want to be friends?

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Originally by: Recluse XXX

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I just wonder why EV post in treads all over the place that dont concern them...dont you guys have anything to do, I mean, besides poking your noses in other peoples affairs?

Ffs, organize a mining-op or something..

//Rec

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Originally by: Gibri

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How much would it cost to employ the mc to mine for me?

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Originally by: Abdalion

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Please stop the off-topic discussions. Some things are best left to Eve-mail, especially smores.

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Originally by: Shin Ra

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Yeah, how about showing the FRICK vs BURN EDEN war?

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Originally by: Foyle

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Originally by: Abdalion

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Please stop the off-topic discussions. Some things are best left to Eve-mail, especially smores.

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Hmm, ok let me rephrase my post minus the smores.

I see Lords of Andromeda have left smash alliance before the war even started.

Not sure why it was deleted the first time, but I love Abdalion to much to dispute his moderation:P

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Originally by: Heinky

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MC claim is bit too much i think,Then loosing more money by paying 50m for war ? i dont get it

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Originally by: Shin Ra

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Yeah, how about showing the FRICK vs BURN EDEN war?

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Originally by: Waagaa Ktlehr

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These two NSN pilots were NPC-hunting in Vale of the Silent, which is Forsaken Empire sovereign territory. If the two MC members had permission granted by the local to NPC-hunt there and FE is at a state of war with SMASH, how are they not fair game?

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Originally by: Recluse XXX

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Originally by: Waagaa Ktlehr

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These two NSN pilots were NPC-hunting in Vale of the Silent, which is Forsaken Empire sovereign territory. If the two MC members had permission granted by the local to NPC-hunt there and FE is at a state of war with SMASH, how are they not fair game?

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Lets say that we were...and now they are fair game to us beacuse they did shoot at us first (whitout warning and whit no intention to ransom).

Should we, just beacuse we usually get payed to kill people, just stand by and let "pirates" kill us and not respond? We do NOT turn the other cheak(sp?) when someone slaps us in the face...this has NOTHING to do whit politics, this is revenge.

//Rec

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Originally by: Recluse XXX

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Lets say that we were...and now they are fair game to us beacuse they did shoot at us first (whitout warning and whit no intention to ransom).

Should we, just beacuse we usually get payed to kill people, just stand by and let "pirates" kill us and not respond? We do NOT turn the other cheak(sp?) when someone slaps us in the face...this has NOTHING to do whit politics, this is revenge.

//Rec

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Originally by: Waagaa Ktlehr

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Edited by: Waagaa Ktlehr on 28/07/2005 01:41:47

Originally by: Recluse XXX

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Originally by: Waagaa Ktlehr

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These two NSN pilots were NPC-hunting in Vale of the Silent, which is Forsaken Empire sovereign territory. If the two MC members had permission granted by the local to NPC-hunt there and FE is at a state of war with SMASH, how are they not fair game?

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Lets say that we were...and now they are fair game to us beacuse they did shoot at us first (whitout warning and whit no intention to ransom).

Should we, just beacuse we usually get payed to kill people, just stand by and let "pirates" kill us and not respond? We do NOT turn the other cheak(sp?) when someone slaps us in the face...this has NOTHING to do whit politics, this is revenge.

//Rec

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I can understand that, but aren't you politically aligned by using a political entity's space for personal / corp gain?

Also, why didn't Teddybears, TDG, etc recieve a wardec? They're destroyed waaaay more MC ships :)

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Originally by: Waagaa Ktlehr

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I can understand that, but aren't you politically aligned by using a political entity's space for personal / corp gain?

Also, why didn't Teddybears, TDG, etc recieve a wardec? They're destroyed waaaay more MC ships :)

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Originally by: Waagaa Ktlehr

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I can understand that, but aren't you politically aligned by using a political entity's space for personal / corp gain?

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Also, why didn't Teddybears, TDG, etc recieve a wardec? They're destroyed waaaay more MC ships :)

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Originally by: Waagaa Ktlehr

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Then again, to SMASH it might have looked like you're allies, which is why it might be kinda logical that they shot at your guys.

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Originally by: Waagaa Ktlehr

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Happy hunting :)

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Originally by: Leno

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Also in reference to the two killed ships I believe it is blasphome to see a member of the MC flying a T1 fitted ship

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Originally by: benwallace

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Originally by: Shin Ra

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Yeah, how about showing the FRICK vs BURN EDEN war?

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They can't fraps you guys in safespots

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Originally by: Harrier

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u find some in ot-lib

gl

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Originally by: Waagaa Ktlehr

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Also, why didn't Teddybears, TDG, etc recieve a wardec? They're destroyed waaaay more MC ships :)

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Originally by: Leafo

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Originally by: Waagaa Ktlehr

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Then again, to SMASH it might have looked like you're allies, which is why it might be kinda logical that they shot at your guys.

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Yes, ofcourse Waagaa. We are not totally naive

As I stated we had a similar incident with another hostile force to F-E a couple of days ago. That was solved by just talking on TS as it was an honest mistake. Issue resolved, no hard feelings.

This time we tried to do the same but there was no will at all to even talk about the incident. Even less to talk about solving it. Thus we stand were we are now.

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Originally by: General Killah"

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No you did not attempt to "talk." You attempted to blackmail us with a demand for ISK, if you wanted to work a situation out, you would contact us, not demanding anything, trying to genuinely find a solution. That you did not do.

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Originally by: General Killah

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No you did not attempt to "talk." You attempted to blackmail us with a demand for ISK, if you wanted to work a situation out, you would contact us, not demanding anything, trying to genuinely find a solution. That you did not do.

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Originally by: Recluse XXX

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Damn Amarr BS are only good for mining

//Rec

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Originally by: Seleene

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Originally by: General Killah

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No you did not attempt to "talk." You attempted to blackmail us with a demand for ISK, if you wanted to work a situation out, you would contact us, not demanding anything, trying to genuinely find a solution. That you did not do.

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Stop trying to take the high road here. You did not attempt to "talk" either when you entered the system, searched for our pilots and then started shooting at them. You knew who they were, you can read the Alliance tags and don't insult me or the community with this nonsense about thinking we were involved in any way with whatever it is you are fighting for up there. Our lack of politics is well-known.

Eveyone else NSN ran into up there was content to just say, "Hey guys!" and go about thier routine. Hell, everywhere I go in this game people ask what we are up to before they start shooting. We are very careful about our standings. We expect corps like MAFIA and Teddys to be hostile and we are more than happy to oblige them in return.

Most alliances would have simply come after you and let it be. NSN took the time to at least attempt a solution of some sort, which is more than I can say for your trigger-happy attitude. If you found it to be 'blackmail' I'm curious as to what you expected our response to be when you engaged that part of your brain that hits *F1* *F2* *F3 *F4*. Did you expect there to not be a response?

To all of those talking about videos and such, bear in mind that as of the war dec SMASH Alliance only had 108 members. I don't expect our killboards to light up overnight nor do I expect our hard drives to start filling up with footage. What I do expect is that we will kill whatever targets of oppertunity we find. We will go after SMASH with whatever our time and logistics will support and we will continue the war until NSN tells thier MC brothers it is enough.

See you all out there.

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Originally by: General Killah

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I will repeat something you don't seem to understand. This is 0.0. You act surprised that you lost pilots and act like you expected it wouldn't be dangerous. It is not our fault that we didn't contact everyone who could possibly be here to tell them we would shoot if they were seen.

Don't try to make this look like our fault, you were in 0.0, a place with RISKS. If you cannot handle the risk go back to your home in empire.

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Originally by: Seleene

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Our lack of politics is well-known.

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Originally by: Eyeshadow

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I think you will find wars have been started for a lot less than 2 NPCing BS being killed. Xetic vs 5 anyone? That was over a hauler being blown up (i know, maybe a little bit more , but still). We tried to resolve it using diplomacy but were out right refused even the chance to put a case across. That in itself would probably have bought some sort of retribution, but then basically sticking 2 fingers up at us in their "statement" on this very forum, was the final straw. In my opinion anyway

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Originally by: Shin Ra

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Originally by: Eyeshadow

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I think you will find wars have been started for a lot less than 2 NPCing BS being killed. Xetic vs 5 anyone? That was over a hauler being blown up (i know, maybe a little bit more , but still). We tried to resolve it using diplomacy but were out right refused even the chance to put a case across. That in itself would probably have bought some sort of retribution, but then basically sticking 2 fingers up at us in their "statement" on this very forum, was the final straw. In my opinion anyway

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Smash started this... They even admit to doing it. Go fit some more WCS

Why not just make a post saying:

We are bored, SMASH are neutral, we feel like killing them. Please die.

Wouldn't it be easier than making up some stupid excuse that is potentially more damaging to your oh so precious reputation.

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Originally by: Seleene

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Edited by: Seleene on 28/07/2005 07:18:31

Originally by: General Killah

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I will repeat something you don't seem to understand. This is 0.0. You act surprised that you lost pilots and act like you expected it wouldn't be dangerous. It is not our fault that we didn't contact everyone who could possibly be here to tell them we would shoot if they were seen.

Don't try to make this look like our fault, you were in 0.0, a place with RISKS. If you cannot handle the risk go back to your home in empire.

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You, sir, are amazing. You made a choice to shoot at us. There was no game mechanic or person with a gun to your head forcing you to do it. Everyone else in the area had the courtesy to leave us be. You attacked a group of people who would have been happy to call you friends just 48 hours ago.

"Smash? Yeah, saw a couple in local. Had a quick chat and we went our separate ways. Nice guys."

Your choice to attack our neutral pilots, followed by your sloppy and arrogant diplomacy in game and on these forums has now earned you and yours a galaxy-wide war declaration. We don't do things by halves. When we see you, wherever you are, there will be blood spilled.

I have nothing more to say on this. If you wish to speak with anyone on the matter of resolving this issue, contact Leafo.

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Originally by: Avatar Ashlee

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Smash started this... They even admit to doing it. Go fit some more WCS

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Originally by: Shin Ra

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Originally by: Avatar Ashlee

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Smash started this... They even admit to doing it. Go fit some more WCS

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Yeah I did READ the thread, perhaps you should read my replies before you go posting little rants like that.

Do you honestly think it makes me feel back when you say "OMG STABS"?

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Originally by: Cpt Pugwash

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Your claim of a lack of politics is well known. Reality is something entirely different.

The postings of your members on these boards demonstrates your political alliegences much better than your actions.

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Rubra considers you hostile and if you would kindly send some pilots NPC hunting our way we will happily demonstrate this.

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Originally by: Shin Ra

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Why not just make a post saying:

We are bored, SMASH are neutral, we feel like killing them. Please die.

Wouldn't it be easier than making up some stupid excuse that is potentially more damaging to your oh so precious reputation.

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Originally by: ParMizaN

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i mayv or may nit abe a bit drunk

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Originally by: Buddrow

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TO THETR DRUMNBS OF WAR WET GHO

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Originally by: Avatar Ashlee

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Originally by: Shin Ra

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Originally by: Avatar Ashlee

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Smash started this... They even admit to doing it. Go fit some more WCS

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Yeah I did READ the thread, perhaps you should read my replies before you go posting little rants like that.

Do you honestly think it makes me feel back when you say "OMG STABS"?

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How many solo kills have you had Shin Ra? kthxbye

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Originally by: Shin Ra

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Originally by: Avatar Ashlee

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Originally by: Shin Ra

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Originally by: Avatar Ashlee

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Smash started this... They even admit to doing it. Go fit some more WCS

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Yeah I did READ the thread, perhaps you should read my replies before you go posting little rants like that.

Do you honestly think it makes me feel back when you say "OMG STABS"?

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How many solo kills have you had Shin Ra? kthxbye

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Its no secret I have another character in BURN EDEN. Between the two of us, alot - I've lost count. Perhaps you are interested in a little 1v1?

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Originally by: Shin Ra

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blah blah blah blah my cap is peakier than yours !!!!

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Originally by: Karmic

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Edited by: Karmic on 28/07/2005 10:39:07

Originally by: Shin Ra

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blah blah blah blah my cap is peakier than yours !!!!

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wts all new "burberry" warp core stab II's

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Originally by: Shin Ra

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Originally by: Karmic

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Edited by: Karmic on 28/07/2005 10:39:07

Originally by: Shin Ra

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blah blah blah blah my cap is peakier than yours !!!!

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wts all new "burberry" warp core stab II's

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Brilliant!

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Originally by: Shin Ra

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Originally by: Eyeshadow

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I think you will find wars have been started for a lot less than 2 NPCing BS being killed. Xetic vs 5 anyone? That was over a hauler being blown up (i know, maybe a little bit more , but still). We tried to resolve it using diplomacy but were out right refused even the chance to put a case across. That in itself would probably have bought some sort of retribution, but then basically sticking 2 fingers up at us in their "statement" on this very forum, was the final straw. In my opinion anyway

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Why not just make a post saying:

We are bored, SMASH are neutral, we feel like killing them. Please die.

Wouldn't it be easier than making up some stupid excuse that is potentially more damaging to your oh so precious reputation.

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Originally by: Aturayd

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All this talk about Smash being annihilated is making me scared. I dont know what im going to do with myself.

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Originally by: OVERCOPES 1

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you havent replied to your offer of a 1v1.

or was it you just telling porky pies about you getting loads of solo kills.

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Originally by: Baconjoe

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I am a fan of the MC. However i think this is rather unprofessional. Suprised seleene went with this tbh

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Originally by: Baconjoe

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I am a fan of the MC. However i think this is rather unprofessional. Suprised seleene went with this tbh

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Originally by: Yarrick

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Originally by: Baconjoe

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I am a fan of the MC. However i think this is rather unprofessional. Suprised seleene went with this tbh

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Oh Please Bacon, you would've done exactly the same.

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Originally by: Trooper B99

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Well, you wretched cowardly alt, as numerous parties in that "warzone" have already said, they have seen the NSN guys and not bothered them because they know they are politically neutral. They know that they have nothing to do with what is going on and will not engage anyone unless fired upon.

The MC are above politics.

The MC simply don't care which side pays us or why. Individual members might have opinions one way or another, but the entity that is the Mercenary Coalition does not and all of our members are professional enouigh to understand this.

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Originally by: Leno

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Who must i contact for a genuine "Lowa" autograph?

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Originally by: AmaZulu

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Originally by: Trooper B99

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Well, you wretched cowardly alt, as numerous parties in that "warzone" have already said, they have seen the NSN guys and not bothered them because they know they are politically neutral. They know that they have nothing to do with what is going on and will not engage anyone unless fired upon.

The MC are above politics.

The MC simply don't care which side pays us or why. Individual members might have opinions one way or another, but the entity that is the Mercenary Coalition does not and all of our members are professional enouigh to understand this.

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Dobby just don't want dobby's hand ironed (or SMASH'ed). Dobby is scared the MC will iron Dobby's hand for speaking out against them...

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Originally by: Lowa

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Hello! I'm Lowa, I'm in this thread now. Please touch me!

Originally by: Leno

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Who must i contact for a genuine "Lowa" autograph?

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My self would be quite sufficent! Would you like it as a movie?

<3
Pat, whats that about my birthday? I tend to drink too much
during vacation and miss out...


Cheers,
LOWA

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Originally by: Avatar Ashlee
How many solo kills have you had Shin Ra? kthxbye[/quote

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You might want to consider the fact that quite a few people are able to use multiple accounts simultaneously(I use 3 main characters in combat all the time) so it is quite common to have multiple names on a killmail when you were in fact killed by just one person :) Think Kayosonis the most known for this and maybe the enslaver, but 2 boxers and more are quite common these days, especially with eve able to run multiple clients on one machine... and for the record, STFU alt :)
I like to think of myself as the chlorine in the gene pool.

Originally by: Seleene

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Originally by: AmaZulu

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Originally by: Trooper B99

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Well, you wretched cowardly alt, as numerous parties in that "warzone" have already said, they have seen the NSN guys and not bothered them because they know they are politically neutral. They know that they have nothing to do with what is going on and will not engage anyone unless fired upon.

The MC are above politics.

The MC simply don't care which side pays us or why. Individual members might have opinions one way or another, but the entity that is the Mercenary Coalition does not and all of our members are professional enouigh to understand this.

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Dobby just don't want dobby's hand ironed (or SMASH'ed). Dobby is scared the MC will iron Dobby's hand for speaking out against them...

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I just want a Dev's login so I can see who this is.

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Originally by: Trooper B99

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Well, you wretched cowardly alt, as numerous parties in that "warzone" have already said, they have seen the NSN guys and not bothered them because they know they are politically neutral. They know that they have nothing to do with what is going on and will not engage anyone unless fired upon.

The MC are above politics.

The MC simply don't care which side pays us or why. Individual members might have opinions one way or another, but the entity that is the Mercenary Coalition does not and all of our members are professional enouigh to understand this.

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Originally by: Recscue

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Originally by: Trooper B99

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Well, you wretched cowardly alt, as numerous parties in that "warzone" have already said, they have seen the NSN guys and not bothered them because they know they are politically neutral. They know that they have nothing to do with what is going on and will not engage anyone unless fired upon.

The MC are above politics.

The MC simply don't care which side pays us or why. Individual members might have opinions one way or another, but the entity that is the Mercenary Coalition does not and all of our members are professional enouigh to understand this.

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However neutral you may be in politics doesn't change the fact that you are mercs, you shouldn't expect everyone not to shoot you if you are not at war with them, thats just plain naive. Mercs are just about as bad as pirates, no matter how much percieved respect you have, and I doubt their presence would be tolerated in many regions, less of course they hold a contract.

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Originally by: Stradivarious

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You might want to consider the fact that quite a few people are able to use multiple accounts simultaneously(I use 3 main characters in combat all the time) so it is quite common to have multiple names on a killmail when you were in fact killed by just one person :) Think Kayosonis the most known for this and maybe the enslaver, but 2 boxers and more are quite common these days, especially with eve able to run multiple clients on one machine... and for the record, STFU alt :)

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Originally by: Sochin

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CCP has provided you with the tools you need to avoid crime. You're just too lazy/stupid to use them.

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Originally by: Yarrick

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Originally by: Baconjoe

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I am a fan of the MC. However i think this is rather unprofessional. Suprised seleene went with this tbh

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Oh Please Bacon, you would've done exactly the same.

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Originally by: DrunkenOne

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And for the record I think MC will win, but they should have just taken the losses and learned a lesson.

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Originally by: Oohwha Schipperman

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I believe MC is planning to *teach* a lesson: "don't mess with MC."

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Originally by: Aturayd

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Since when have videos and forums been an accurate description of the happenings of war. Its just a bunch of propaganda bs for third party as$-kissers. Oh well.. might as well have this thread continue.. the ego balloon has to fill up sometime.

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Originally by: Aturayd

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No... they just show the footage they want people to see... i mean, would you make a video promoting your services with you being the ones getting your asses handed to you?

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Originally by: Orbital Drift

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Originally by: Oohwha Schipperman

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I believe MC is planning to *teach* a lesson: "don't mess with MC."

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If the lesson is, "We [Mercenary Coalition] feel that extortion is a perfectly apolitical method to generate income." I think we've learned that one.

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Originally by: Leafo

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Originally by: Gibri

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How much would it cost to employ the mc to mine for me?

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I'm glad to see you are interested in our services. But unfortunately for you we don't do mining contracts.

Feel free to browse our FAQ for any further information.

Leafo

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Originally by: Purask

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still i cant see a reason why MC should expect everyone to be neutral to them.
Just cause they call themselfs Merc corp and can hide in Empire and enjoy only the good sides of war and never the bad ones (like losing systems, stations or even having someone who wants to totaly destroy ur alliance).
This game doesnt need Merc corps who just switch the sides for money, its needs alliances populating 0.0 space and if MC doesnt want to do that then they shouldnt whine about getting killed in 0.0 space of other alliances.
The truth is there is no neutrality cause u are a constant threat to any alliance cause the only value u have is money and thats a dangerous one.

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Originally by: Purask

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still i cant see a reason why MC should expect everyone to be neutral to them.
Just cause they call themselfs Merc corp and can hide in Empire and enjoy only the good sides of war and never the bad ones (like losing systems, stations or even having someone who wants to totaly destroy ur alliance).
This game doesnt need Merc corps who just switch the sides for money, its needs alliances populating 0.0 space and if MC doesnt want to do that then they shouldnt whine about getting killed in 0.0 space of other alliances.
The truth is there is no neutrality cause u are a constant threat to any alliance cause the only value u have is money and thats a dangerous one.

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Originally by: ParMizaN

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i mayv or may nit abe a bit drunk

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Originally by: Buddrow

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TO THETR DRUMNBS OF WAR WET GHO

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Originally by: Zarthanon

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I must add that 90% of the ships of SMASH I have killed, have been wearing warp core stabs. This includes at least 2 WCS on their interctors and assault frigs. So 1v1ing these guys is pretty much out of the question, as they gimp their setups so much they have to warp out.

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Originally by: Crayathan

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100mil on the mc

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Originally by: Heinky

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Just incase any of my corp members run into MC in 0.0, they will shoot just to make it clear,so u can declare war on my corp in advance if u want.

Smash them Emp

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Originally by: Shin Ra

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Originally by: Heinky

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Just incase any of my corp members run into MC in 0.0, they will shoot just to make it clear,so u can declare war on my corp in advance if u want.

Smash them Emp

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Don't you remember those MC guys in London saiyng they didn't do 0.0 fighting. Perhaps a pre-emptive strike would be an idea.

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Quote:

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All life is a Game. We just have to play it, the best we can.

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Originally by: Deathjudge

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SO in short, I have always heard the good of the Mercenary Coalition was of myth and tall tales. Because if it was found to be true they would not be attacking miners, but using these great PVP skill they have to kill the other killer PVP players they where hired to attack I would believe.

As to the posting I see the attack where made by ROME, not the Lords of Andromeda. Strange they where going to kill them, but instead came after the miners, makes me wonder was the isk paid to do this. Well spent?

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Originally by: Deathjudge

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Ok,

I am talking on behalf of my CORP. I am wondering why; when I found out what was going on with the SMASH Alliance and the war, and we are a builder Corp and miners and have never bring on acts of violence towards and members of the Mercenary Coalition. We pulled out of the alliance, do to the fact we had neither say nor any part in the going to war thing. Which as of last night the Mercenary Coalition knew we had pulled out, but today I found out we have had random acts bring on us. The strange thing is why is the Mercenary Coalition, who is about fighting PVP doing nothing more then attack a mining corp. and it members and equipment. It has been bringing to my attention that the Mercenary Coalition was full of members who stood up for the good of all who can afford to pay them. If you will the "Robin Hoods" of the EVE game, strange actions of robin hood to kill to helpless and those who are not in the war.

SO in short, I have always heard the good of the Mercenary Coalition was of myth and tall tales. Because if it was found to be true they would not be attacking miners, but using these great PVP skill they have to kill the other killer PVP players they where hired to attack I would believe.

As to the posting I see the attack where made by ROME, not the Lords of Andromeda. Strange they where going to kill them, but instead came after the miners, makes me wonder was the isk paid to do this. Well spent?

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Originally by: Megasaxon

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When are we gonna stop doing forum wars and actually fight this thing?

Just wondering to see if you even have the skillz that you have in forum attacks that you do in game.

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Originally by: Megasaxon

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When are we gonna stop doing forum wars and actually fight this thing?

Just wondering to see if you even have the skillz that you have in forum attacks that you do in game.

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Originally by: Wraeththu

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Edited by: Wraeththu on 28/07/2005 21:15:28

Originally by: General Killah

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Yeah cause searching for them and killing them isn't hunting them...

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There's a distinct difference between premeditated murder and manslaughter. So for my curiosity and sensationalism, did you go out of your way to specificly target MC ships, or specificly those pilots? Or was it just scortched earth on any blips in the area?

Originally by: General Killah

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Oh and I see that npc hunters are women and children now, how wonderful.

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Obviously not. But they're both non-members of the two waring factions (this being yourselves and the F-E Alliance). You're saying that anyone who enter's a "warzone", as subjectivly defined by the person behind the gun, is a valid target. Which is basically moral relativism.

So one hand's saying "Oh MC how you suck because I've lost respect for you due to ..." and the other hand is say "But at the same time I only believe in that which is convenient to me at the same time"

Not having ever fought you, I'll take you at your word that you're awesomesauce PKs. So why did you sneak up on two people NPCing without declaring your intentions? That's what gurillas and terrorists do, due to the fact that they're weak and have no other options. It's an act of desperation. What would make you so desperate to kill MC?

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Originally by: Beringe

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Edited by: Beringe on 29/07/2005 03:10:09
I respect the MC highly, but I must say this doesn't quite smell right.

Are the Mercenary Coalition enforcing a right to move through any region? Would they NPC in Catch or Curse without asking Red Alliance/[5]? Would they NPC in Fountain?

I think it's more a matter of who shot at them, not lack of diplomacy, that they are taking this action. Here's a mental exercise: Replace SMASH with BOB and re-run the events. Different outcome?

EDIT: Oh, and let's assume for argument's sake that BOB had actually shot at them, mkay?

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Originally by: Deathjudge

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It has been bringing to my attention that the Mercenary Coalition was full of members who stood up for the good of all who can afford to pay them. If you will the "Robin Hoods" of the EVE game, strange actions of robin hood to kill to helpless and those who are not in the war.

SO in short, I have always heard the good of the Mercenary Coalition was of myth and tall tales.

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Originally by: Zandramus

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What you have encountered by coming up to Geminate is hard core PVP'ers that have taken your gimped ships and lame tactics and mullered you everytime you are encountered in space.

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Originally by: Wraeththu

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Edited by: Wraeththu on 29/07/2005 18:02:28

Originally by: Deathjudge

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It has been bringing to my attention that the Mercenary Coalition was full of members who stood up for the good of all who can afford to pay them. If you will the "Robin Hoods" of the EVE game, strange actions of robin hood to kill to helpless and those who are not in the war.

SO in short, I have always heard the good of the Mercenary Coalition was of myth and tall tales.

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This is a question to MC, not Deathjudge.

Is it your intention on trying to be the "good guys" of Eve? Because it was my understanding that you were just honorable mercs. (lawful neutral in nerd-speak).

A good percentage of these forums are arguing about how goodie-goodie MC was before this, or how they're tarnishing their reptuation etc.

Maybe I'm just easily confused?

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Originally by: Balistic Void

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S.M.A.S.H alliance.... lollerskates... seriously....

*recovers composure* SMASH you are wayyy out of your depth. How many billions have you lost since you arrived? In the first 24 hours you lost a Machariel and a POS (which we killed via "exploit" ofc)... and that was only what I personally witnessed. As if you didn't have enough on your plate with SAS/VOC (who will pwn you) you now pick a fight with MC? This is too funny... It has to go down as the worst attempt at an invasion ever seen in Eve to this date.

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Originally by: General Killah

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As for MC, that's what bothered me, their expectation that we would leave them alone in 0.0 space when they had not contacted us to request neutral or plus standings.

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Originally by: General Killah

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We hunted them and killed them. If your military thinks it wise to go up against us, i wish you luck, you will need it.

As I said before, we will not be blackmailed, bribed, or pushed around as MC attempted to do to scare us. Your name means nothing in 0.0.

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Originally by: Wraeththu

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This is a question to MC, not Deathjudge.

Is it your intention on trying to be the "good guys" of Eve? Because it was my understanding that you were just honorable mercs. (lawful neutral in nerd-speak).

A good percentage of these forums are arguing about how goodie-goodie MC was before this, or how they're tarnishing their reptuation etc.

Maybe I'm just easily confused?

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Originally by: Balistic Void

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Edited by: Balistic Void on 29/07/2005 18:49:48
@GeneralKillah: ROFL this isn't the test server we're talking about... There is no way your kill/loss ratio is favourable. I suppose you destroyed FE corp and they disbanded coz of your ownage yeah? Not through sheer boredom or anything?

And the Machariel/POS losses were incurred by FE were they? I hate to be the internet pedant, but please improve your grammar.

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Originally by: Dray

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Edited by: Dray on 29/07/2005 18:57:46
Edited by: Dray on 29/07/2005 18:56:49
Edited by: Dray on 29/07/2005 18:54:24
A long time ago I gave up reading this section of the forums but i was told about this thread by a friend so i thought i'd have a look at whats happening, firstly let me say ive had no dealings with MC but i know their reputation, and passing dealings with smash, mainly Smite in and around fv something or other in stain a while back before we left stain, fought a few of the smite guys and they were ok, a tad reluctant on a fair fight to point where we had to work at them with lesser numbers but eventually they would play, nothing special but game enough.

This incident on face value isnt really open to dispute, two corps out of there normal sphere? but an unprovoked attack carried out under the guise of "your in 0.0 your fair game" excuse.

My thoughts on this for what there worth are personal views on attitude this may seem a little left field but pertinant so here they are

1. The first rule of making a c*nt of yourself is not to get caught...
2. Unless you want to get caught..

With this small but priceless little insight (in my opinion) it seems smash want this or are trying to be "we're badass we dont care", all the comments on this post as a by product are to be expected and can be a suprise to nobody.

In conclusion, with eve mechanics in mind there will be a great or poor conclision.


My money is on MC.

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Originally by: General Killah

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Originally by: Balistic Void

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@GeneralKillah: ROFL this isn't the test server we're talking about... There is no way your kill/loss ratio is favourable. I suppose you destroyed FE corp and they disbanded coz of your ownage yeah? Not through sheer boredom or anything?

And the Machariel/POS losses were incurred by FE were they? I hate to be the internet pedant, but please improve your grammar.

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You need to start playing Tranq, in Geminate and Vale, obviously you haven't been around much

And no, F-E disbanding had nothing to do with us..

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Originally by: Converse

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Edited by: Converse on 29/07/2005 23:40:32
I also wanted to know why every FE members claim to fame is a single faction bship kill and an immobile station. (contrary to popular belief, our members buy their own ships and they are not alliance funded).

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Originally by: Leafo

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Edited by: Leafo on 27/07/2005 20:24:40




Press release - SMASH Alliance


Good job Smash!!!!

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2005.07.27 20:23:00
Mercenary Coalition has declared war on SMASH Alliance. After 24 hours fighting can legally occur between those involved.

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As the most of you know the Mercenary Coalition is a politically neutral organisation, only acting hostile when contracted to do so.

Recently SMASH Alliance conducted numerous unprovoked hostile acts towards the Mercenary Coalition.

That and poorly handled diplomacy has led to this decision;

SMASH Alliance will now be hunted down and killed.

Thank you and have a nice day.

Leafo
North Star Networks - The Mercenary Coalition

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Originally by: Balistic Void

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Originally by: Converse

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Edited by: Converse on 29/07/2005 23:40:32
I also wanted to know why every FE members claim to fame is a single faction bship kill and an immobile station. (contrary to popular belief, our members buy their own ships and they are not alliance funded).

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And your corps claim to fame is petitioning gms to move you from camped stations yeah?

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Originally by: Balistic Void

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Originally by: Converse

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Edited by: Converse on 29/07/2005 23:40:32
I also wanted to know why every FE members claim to fame is a single faction bship kill and an immobile station. (contrary to popular belief, our members buy their own ships and they are not alliance funded).

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And your corps claim to fame is petitioning gms to move you from camped stations yeah?

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Originally by: Converse

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Edited by: Converse on 29/07/2005 23:40:32
Edited by: Converse on 29/07/2005 23:37:50
Music "If you, want to call me baby, then go ahead now" /Music

I just wanted to know why every alliance we fight has to use the same Spindoctoring tactics.

I also wanted to know why every FE members claim to fame is a single faction bship kill and an immobile station. (contrary to popular belief, our members buy their own ships and they are not alliance funded).

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Originally by: ParMizaN

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i mayv or may nit abe a bit drunk

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Originally by: Buddrow

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TO THETR DRUMNBS OF WAR WET GHO

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Originally by: Converse

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EXACTLY what I thought, not a single real rational reply. Just a changing of subjects and pointing out random stuff.

Keep up the spinning!

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Originally by: Converse

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EXACTLY what I thought, not a single real rational reply. Just a changing of subjects and pointing out random stuff.

Keep up the spinning!

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Originally by: Hoozin

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Edited by: Hoozin on 30/07/2005 02:07:48

Originally by: Converse

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EXACTLY what I thought, not a single real rational reply. Just a changing of subjects and pointing out random stuff.

Keep up the spinning!

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I'm sorry, kind of a noob here but, who are you and what do you have to do with this thread?

Oh and Danks, I much prefer pickles to pickled cucumbers

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Originally by: ParMizaN

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i mayv or may nit abe a bit drunk

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Originally by: Buddrow

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TO THETR DRUMNBS OF WAR WET GHO

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Originally by: Converse

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EXACTLY what I thought, not a single real rational reply. Just a changing of subjects and pointing out random stuff.

Keep up the spinning!

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Originally by: ParMizaN

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i mayv or may nit abe a bit drunk

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Originally by: Buddrow

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TO THETR DRUMNBS OF WAR WET GHO

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Originally by: Julien Derida

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I think you miss the point Beringe. Vale is not SMASH space, it is F-E space. If we had been shot at by F-E, an escalation of the conflict would have been very unlikely.

...

It is pointless to replay these events with BoB instead of SMASH, because this situation would never have occured with them. We have a tremendous amount of mutual respect, and I feel it is unlikely that they would go out of their way to attack us in space claimed by neither of us, as SMASH did.

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Originally by: Aturayd

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Most people fell negative towars us... well emperor, we must be doing a good job then

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Originally by: unforg1ven

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Imho Geminate does not belong to anybody atm, neither a corp or alliance, too many people are fighting for it atm.

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Originally by: General Killah

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Edited by: General Killah on 29/07/2005 18:42:09

Originally by: Balistic Void

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S.M.A.S.H alliance.... lollerskates... seriously....

*recovers composure* SMASH you are wayyy out of your depth. How many billions have you lost since you arrived? In the first 24 hours you lost a Machariel and a POS (which we killed via "exploit" ofc)... and that was only what I personally witnessed. As if you didn't have enough on your plate with SAS/VOC (who will pwn you) you now pick a fight with MC? This is too funny... It has to go down as the worst attempt at an invasion ever seen in Eve to this date.

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Shut your mouth, get in game, get your ship, come fight us.

Every engagement in the last 2 weeks with SAS/VOC has turned out in our favor, many of them with no losses. The Mach and POS were most of the losses incured by F-E, I think we lost 2-3 BS to them later, to the 20-30 we killed.

Don't talk when you aren't there to see it.

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Run and fall or stand in line, in the end what's your's is mine

Run and fall or stand in line, in the end what's your's is mine

Originally by: General Killah

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Edited by: General Killah on 29/07/2005 18:42:09

Originally by: Balistic Void

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S.M.A.S.H alliance.... lollerskates... seriously....

*recovers composure* SMASH you are wayyy out of your depth. How many billions have you lost since you arrived? In the first 24 hours you lost a Machariel and a POS (which we killed via "exploit" ofc)... and that was only what I personally witnessed. As if you didn't have enough on your plate with SAS/VOC (who will pwn you) you now pick a fight with MC? This is too funny... It has to go down as the worst attempt at an invasion ever seen in Eve to this date.

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Shut your mouth, get in game, get your ship, come fight us.

Every engagement in the last 2 weeks with SAS/VOC has turned out in our favor, many of them with no losses. The Mach and POS were most of the losses incured by F-E, I think we lost 2-3 BS to them later, to the 20-30 we killed.

Don't talk when you aren't there to see it.

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Originally by: ParMizaN

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i mayv or may nit abe a bit drunk

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Originally by: Buddrow

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TO THETR DRUMNBS OF WAR WET GHO

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Originally by: General Killah

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One word Zarth. Smite. That wasn't us it was Smite.

Parm, we have killmails(i have 12 personally i know emp has at least double that). They have not and will not be posted on eve-extra until we are satisfied that most of the major fighting is done as far as fighting F-E and SAS/VOC goes. Bide your time you'll see them soon.

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Run and fall or stand in line, in the end what's your's is mine

Originally by: General Killah

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One word Zarth. Smite. That wasn't us it was Smite.

Parm, we have killmails(i have 12 personally i know emp has at least double that). They have not and will not be posted on eve-extra until we are satisfied that most of the major fighting is done as far as fighting F-E and SAS/VOC goes. Bide your time you'll see them soon.

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Originally by: ParMizaN

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i mayv or may nit abe a bit drunk

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