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Reptar
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Posted - 2005.07.29 01:24:00 -
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Edited by: Reptar on 29/07/2005 01:34:22
Whoaa It is coming up to the aniversary of the start of the Great Northern War, and the PA has changed its diplomats, I can only see 1 on their list that I recognise.
Shame they are still stuck up themselves as ever.  Some things never change
oh and FACT: Laughing Stock http://www.newvenal.org/Forums/viewforum.php?f=11
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Goldavenger
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Posted - 2005.07.29 02:37:00 -
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Its so nice to not be involved anymore.  Can't say I didn't predict this coming though, but then there are a few surprises that I didnt see coming as to who has sided with who, considering the feelings of some members of a certain alliance towards the only people that have seemed to throw in with them.
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Nataboo
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Posted - 2005.07.29 02:57:00 -
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You know PA you are loosing more and more ground. Ground that you will have to spend 10 times the amount of what it would have cost you to replace this guys stuff. Wait.. .. . . This may help
dipĀloĀmat: One who uses skill and tact in dealing with others.
Can't argue with the dictionary.. Pay the man his dues... His dues are the items that he lost not just the 5 Million ISK!
Meathelmetz : contact me in game I have some items that may be of help. As promised I will do what I can to help you.
Thank you
Nataboo
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Jade Ro
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Posted - 2005.07.29 03:07:00 -
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I take back my previous comment of respecting PA for giving back the money. After looking at the copy of that dialog, it paints a totaly different picture. Thank you MeatHemetz. PA your "apology" was a joke and a slap in the face for MeatHelmetz. Show me more proof... and show me Othnarks good reason... and your reason for your sorry excuse of an apology.
Having Othnark simply apologize and shorting MeatHelmetz from a full repayment, AND accusing him of piracy when there was absolutely no proof other he had a webber, and never even attacked Othnark.. (which btw... a webber is a common mod ...and personaly I love em. I think its a great mod to have installed if in the case you are attacked unprovoked. Keeps the coward from leaving the fight I say... so your can finish the job the piker started...lol...)
All that you have offered... and your "diplomacy" in handling it... appears as to be a joke... come on now.. Ok Im done posting... totaly expecting another senseless lame excuse from PA to be returned to this post... sigh... ah well what do u do. I guess it makes the game a tad more intertaining to have someone to hunt... and a cause to fight for.
PA GIVE ME A REASON TO HAVE RESPECT FOR YOU AGAIN!
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Ly'sol
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Posted - 2005.07.29 04:52:00 -
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Ok a few things that bother me about this whole situation.
1.) The claim that the offending pilots didnt 'know' about the charter and defending them.
Well. Ignorance is no excuse. OOC should expel those members from PA for violating the charter. It doesnt matter if the person was in the corp since the begining or joined 5 mins ago.
Second, the avoidance of responsiblity.
And third, the audacity of them thanking Jericho Fraction for doing THIER job.
Stop tripping over your own feet and take responsiblity for your actions.
Darken Two,
Matey i heard some very disturbing information about you. I dont want to call you out on the forums as its disrespectful, at least not yet. Ive taken you off ignore in the game, i would like you to do the same for me so i can find out what exactly happened.
Regardless of our cheap cuts at each other, i like yeah. And i want to hear what you have to say about it. Its in my opinion very serious.
Meathelmetz,
good job at standing up for yourself and not get mad or intimidated.
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Vist the Jericho Fraction Forums
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Paladineguru
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Posted - 2005.07.29 05:48:00 -
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 Originally by: MeatHelmetz
Edited by: MeatHelmetz on 29/07/2005 01:12:15
You were logged in for several hours and not a peep from you. So far all I've had is accusations and abuse. The 5 mil from your monkey paid to me after abusing me has gone to greener n00bs than myself. I don't want a penny of it.
I wasn't after a flame war. Just compensation for an anjust act of piracy. I've been pirated in the past by 'real' pirates, who don't hide behind set of corp values which are seen pretty clearly to be anti-pie, and have no gripes about it. I knew the risks and so forth.
50 million isk has been transfereed to your account , i apologize for the amount of time it took , but today it wasnt me logging on , it was my wife so i could have her sell the items necessary to free up the funds to compensate your unjust loss
Please realize that piracy is not condoned by OCC nor the Phoenix alliance
and that while the alliance wasnt able to justify compensation, that OCC has taken it upon itself to not only compensate your loss but also to sanction the offending pilot with a heavy fine for his actions both during and after the incident. While im sure this experience may have soured your opinion of the PA please realize that one member, especially one very new to our organization, does not reflect the character or moral fiber of our alliance, we mean every bit of that charter , and myself and occ will go to whatever means necessary to uphold the values that it states
So on behalf of occassus republica and myself please accept Our sincerest apologies.
Paladine
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Paladineguru
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Posted - 2005.07.29 05:51:00 -
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On that note even though I am not the author of this thread I would like to request a moderator to lock it as the issue has been dealt with by occassus republica, to forstall further flaming and trolling by parties uninvolved
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LILUDALLAS MULTIPASS
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Posted - 2005.07.29 06:10:00 -
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Edited by: LILUDALLAS MULTIPASS on 29/07/2005 06:10:43
Originally by: Qualitan
I sure hope you're not believing your own spin. When all is said and done that delusion will be what kills the PA regardless of if Xelas is left around.
Qualitan
Xelas Executive Committee Member
I can absoloutely guarentee you wont be. 
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Unknown Subject
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Posted - 2005.07.29 07:54:00 -
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Seems after long talks with a lot of people getting more sides of stories and after this act of piracy has been dealt with so poorly, i officially withdraw all support towards the Phoenix Alliance. I will retain my previous posts for the archives.
Also i formally appologise to Xelas for assuming too much and i wish you the best of luck sorting this mess out.
Sound of Silence remains to be Anti Pirates and extremely dedicated. Currently we are growing in empire space and readying ourselves to become a useful part of an Alliance with simular goals. We have learned a valuable lesson from this incident to keep an open mind.
Godspeed to all.
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pyscho penguin
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Posted - 2005.07.29 09:45:00 -
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http://www.newvenal.org/Forums/viewtopic.php?t=4545
 Oh you just have to love the timing.
Not nice for the guy it happened to tho. 
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blah, blah, wibble, wibble.
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Ashen Brarn
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Posted - 2005.07.29 10:11:00 -
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Edited by: Ashen Brarn on 29/07/2005 10:12:33
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Darken Two
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Posted - 2005.07.29 10:18:00 -
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Originally by: Ly'sol
Ok a few things that bother me about this whole situation.
1.) The claim that the offending pilots didnt 'know' about the charter and defending them.
Well. Ignorance is no excuse. OOC should expel those members from PA for violating the charter. It doesnt matter if the person was in the corp since the begining or joined 5 mins ago.
Second, the avoidance of responsiblity.
And third, the audacity of them thanking Jericho Fraction for doing THIER job.
Stop tripping over your own feet and take responsiblity for your actions.
Darken Two,
Matey i heard some very disturbing information about you. I dont want to call you out on the forums as its disrespectful, at least not yet. Ive taken you off ignore in the game, i would like you to do the same for me so i can find out what exactly happened.
Regardless of our cheap cuts at each other, i like yeah. And i want to hear what you have to say about it. Its in my opinion very serious.
Meathelmetz,
good job at standing up for yourself and not get mad or intimidated.
Hmm very well I'll contact you ingame. Oh and I have never in my two years of playin eve, ever put anyone on ignore.
Originally by: Blind Fear
Generally, when trying to be a puppetmaster, it is considered good form not to wrap the strings around your neck and choke yourself.
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MeatHelmetz
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Posted - 2005.07.29 10:20:00 -
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Paladineguru thank you for settling this matter. Sorry if I jumped to conclusions that you were ignoring this situation but you may understand my feelings once I began to be called names. You didn't resort to this behaviour and for that I have respect for you.
The act of piracy in its self is prefectly normal in the EVE universe and something we can't really whine about. I allways fly with my local channel open so I can check out new arrivals in the system. Those with dubious reputations or low sec I try to avoid and I will often dock when known pirates are in the system. I felt the need to post on this matter because this situation was quite the opposite. I had checked out your pilots on their entry to Thelan and having seen the corp description's anti-pie comments I believed myself to be safe.
In hind sight I should have approached someone by other channels but it didn't occur to me at the time and I was feeling a little aggreved at the time.
Finally regarding the issue of me carrying web and scram gear. The only way this was know was a) after I had been killed hense after an act of piracy nullifying the argument or b) If the killer had been carrying a ship scanner which you could argue using the same philosophy is also
pirating equipment.
The reason I carry the webbifier is because my ferox and other cruisers are so slow that I need to slow down rats before they get inside the range of my big guns. My corp have been pirated alot in the last few weeks and we are trying to fight back. One of the ways was to carry the equipment that would enable us to finish the job should we get jumped. Our home system is a dangerous place and I have learned many leasons the hard way.
I do feel a little guilty that I unintentionally caused a flame fest. Keeping pilots in check must be difficult for bing corps with many pilots who prefer pvp. Ours is small and we don't have to worry about rogues as of yet but new applicants are informed that piracy = expulsion. We don't want to have war declared on us or our mining operation stopped because of the acts on a single individual.
However on a brighter note, I had no knowledge of alliances and controlled space up to this incident so you could say this has been an education.
I am holding no grudges here. Thanks for the support of some of you. Thanks to Paladineguru for acting with good intentions.
Take care.
p.s Meaty is off to get married (irl) so I'll be signing off tonight. We chose the Mirotem Planet V Roden Dock Yards I hear they have a spectacular view.
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Darken Two
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Posted - 2005.07.29 10:21:00 -
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Originally by: Jade Ro
"You character is less than a month old. I suggest you not interfere in things that have nothing to do with you. JF and PA have a long standin blood feud, it wouldn't be wise to get involved in it, especially considering JF have a very colorful history of abandoning their allies when it suits them."
By the way, Darken Two - Gallente Generals Of Destruction Syndicate - The Forsaken Empire
Since when were you PA?
It is fun messin with ya... lol
Hmm this is why I think you shouldnt involve yourself in this. Your corp is full of characters who just make assumptions about others and spew bullcrap on the forums. You dont even know anything about anyone in the north. As for me being PA, its not that difficult to check my employment history.
And you're not messing with me. You're proving to everyone that your are a complete and utter ignoramus who shouldnt be let out of their cage.
Originally by: Blind Fear
Generally, when trying to be a puppetmaster, it is considered good form not to wrap the strings around your neck and choke yourself.
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Invisible Touch
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Posted - 2005.07.29 10:43:00 -
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To MeatHelmetz:
Very mature final post.
Live long and prosper. Best wishes.
Hope you will have time to play after honeymoon is over.
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Nataboo
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Posted - 2005.07.29 11:53:00 -
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GOOD JOB Paladineguru, respects to ya.
Good to see that things were handled.
Thanks,
Nataboo
High Admiral Aurora Fleet |
Jasmine Constantine
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Posted - 2005.07.29 13:06:00 -
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Originally by: Darken Two
Originally by: Jade Ro
"You character is less than a month old. I suggest you not interfere in things that have nothing to do with you. JF and PA have a long standin blood feud, it wouldn't be wise to get involved in it, especially considering JF have a very colorful history of abandoning their allies when it suits them."
By the way, Darken Two - Gallente Generals Of Destruction Syndicate - The Forsaken Empire
Since when were you PA?
It is fun messin with ya... lol
Hmm this is why I think you shouldnt involve yourself in this. Your corp is full of characters who just make assumptions about others and spew bullcrap on the forums. You dont even know anything about anyone in the north. As for me being PA, its not that difficult to check my employment history.
And you're not messing with me. You're proving to everyone that your are a complete and utter ignoramus who shouldnt be let out of their cage.
Oh don't be such a grump mr Two. Everyone has a right to speak their mind. She's learning anyhow. Its not everyone who knows that the PA and FE are in each other's pockets 
Anyhow, I'm glad the story of this thread has a happy ending and was glad to help out.
Have a nice day all!
"Every act of creation is first an act of destruction."
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Apoll
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Posted - 2005.07.29 13:53:00 -
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Originally by: Jasmine Constantine
Oh don't be such a grump mr Two. Everyone has a right to speak their mind. She's learning anyhow. Its not everyone who knows that the PA and FE are in each other's pockets
No offence Jasmine but the same with JF/BOB extended to 5's pockets.
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Yolan
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Posted - 2005.07.29 15:05:00 -
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Edited by: Yolan on 29/07/2005 15:05:08
Originally by: Jasmine Constantine
Oh don't be such a grump mr Two. Everyone has a right to speak their mind. She's learning anyhow. Its not everyone who knows that the PA and FE are in each other's pockets
Anyhow, I'm glad the story of this thread has a happy ending and was glad to help out.
Have a nice day all!
I can assure you that F-E and PA are most certainly not in each others pockets and until very recently GODS for certain was on almost war terms with OCC. So unless you pull ya head out of your rear and start using your mouth to talk I guess you should just stay quiet.
Now I personally dont give a flying crap wether PA shot up some guy or not, thats their problem to sort. Just pretty weak of this guy to spread it all over forums.
Darken, there is really no point arguing with JF any further, they have jumped into bed with so many different corps I doubt they even know what their stance on anything is anymore so they just resort to flaming every thread that features a PA or ex PA corp.
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Jasmine Constantine
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Posted - 2005.07.29 15:29:00 -
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Quote:
I can assure you that F-E and PA are most certainly not in each others pockets and until very recently GODS for certain was on almost war terms with OCC. So unless you pull ya head out of your rear and start using your mouth to talk I guess you should just stay quiet.
Nah I guess you'd better come find me with guns on your ship mr FE and make me shush
But you gotta admit, mr Two talking like the galaxy's authority on the PA does make it look like the puppetry he mentions in his siggie is alive and well between y'all.
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Now I personally dont give a flying crap wether PA shot up some guy or not, thats their problem to sort. Just pretty weak of this guy to spread it all over forums.
Why is it weak? Where I come from (the gallente federation) standing up for your principles and confronting injustice in the light of day is something to be respected. I guess things are different amongst the Amarri eh?
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Darken, there is really no point arguing with JF any further, they have jumped into bed with so many different corps I doubt they even know what their stance on anything is anymore so they just resort to flaming every thread that features a PA or ex PA corp.
Again with the "flaming" accusations. Seriously, you fellows don't mind dishing out the dirt but you do rather get overly defensive when somebody disagrees with your actions or point of view.
If you think my dialogue has been "flammable" you should try listening to yourselves sometimes. You do all need to calm down and have a nice cup of tea.
"Every act of creation is first an act of destruction."
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Jade Ro
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Posted - 2005.07.29 15:51:00 -
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Originally by: Darken Two
Originally by: Jade Ro
"You character is less than a month old. I suggest you not interfere in things that have nothing to do with you. JF and PA have a long standin blood feud, it wouldn't be wise to get involved in it, especially considering JF have a very colorful history of abandoning their allies when it suits them."
By the way, Darken Two - Gallente Generals Of Destruction Syndicate - The Forsaken Empire
Since when were you PA?
It is fun messin with ya... lol
Hmm this is why I think you shouldnt involve yourself in this. Your corp is full of characters who just make assumptions about others and spew bullcrap on the forums. You dont even know anything about anyone in the north. As for me being PA, its not that difficult to check my employment history.
And you're not messing with me. You're proving to everyone that your are a complete and utter ignoramus who shouldnt be let out of their cage.
mmmm tea....
So im a little confused checking your employment shows you are errr..... lets see - Forsaken Empire - ... yep! still not a member of PA... where you PA in past? ohhh look you were a member of 20th Legion... XELAS! oh and just before that... you were PHEONIX ALLIANCE! Great stuff... but... your still not PA and you flame me for having an opinion and call me names? ... lol...... hmm would this make you third party still? I guess you have your employment spread out a little bit in everywhere... doesn't give you a whole lot of weight to anything you say... How are you PA when you are now Forsaken Empire? Does this still make this anymore your business than it is mine? Personaly I like Xelas... and dont appreciate what PA does despite what they say they stand for...so I have a right to post an opinion? eh? Im still learning ... help me out..
Calling me an ignoramus.. thats good stuff.. lol... your a piece of work....a bit cranky are we? lol...stepping on any toes am I? keep up the immature low blows that really dont mean a whole lot to anyone.. I think its great u guys showing your true colors and all... it helps you look smarter when you try to push other people down... well... only if you have some wit.. but... your missing out on that too... sigh... Keep up the good work!
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Wraeththu
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Posted - 2005.07.29 15:57:00 -
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Edited by: Wraeththu on 29/07/2005 15:59:14
Originally by: Jade Ro
I take back my previous comment of respecting PA for giving back the money. After looking at the copy of that dialog, it paints a totaly different picture. Thank you MeatHemetz. PA your "apology" was a joke and a slap in the face for MeatHelmetz. Show me more proof... and show me Othnarks good reason... and your reason for your sorry excuse of an apology.
Well, you're still defaming an alliance for the actions of one. The distinct difference between this and the [previous incident that we won't mention] was that the PA diplomacy didn't defend Othnark's actions. They just didn't do a very good job of difusing the situation. I applaud Paladin for stepping up to the plate (which, in your defense, he hadn't done at the time of this posting).
Now as for certain Corpus Dius and GODS pilots, the same can't be said. You'd almost think they were trying to defame the PA name.
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Tatsue Nuko
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Posted - 2005.07.29 16:14:00 -
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Originally by: Darken Two
How can you label someone as a pirate when you believe there is no such thing as pirate.
Darken, this has been explained to you personally by me as well as others a lot of times, both in private and in public discussions, but if you decide not to use your ears I'll give you yet another explanation in the hopes that at least -someone- will understand our common language:
Jericho regards piracy as a lesser offence compared to the closing down of entire regions of space, as is the modus operandi of alliances such as PA and The Forsaken Empire. If you don't want to listen, stop wasting your breath. You'll be relevant and given attention when you put your isk, ships and clones on the line, not when trying to regurgitate garbage we've already called you on pretty much continuously for about a year.
Have a good day.
Originally by: Edoo
Most non-combatants don't have guns and a warp scrambler fitted on a battlecruiser
So having guns fitted on a battlecruiser in a .2 system is something you regard as a punishable offence? A suspicious act? Having a scrambler is too? Who the hell gave the Phoenix Alliance jurisdiction there? Last time I checked you guys had nothing but 0.0 in your claimed systems, but perhaps I just know "your" territory and charter better than you do? Would be funny...
I mean wow. Just... wow.
You need to get Halseth back, and that's saying something...
Jericho once had an incident where a person didn't obey our non-agression rules, and pirated a neutral. What happened? The offender was instantly kicked from the corporation and the victim was compensated from corporate accounts. No second chanses. Yet here you are, using a rejected conversation (auto-reject? being otherwise occupied at that specific moment? Those things are offenses now?) and the abhorable act of fitting a scrambler to a ship as excuse?
I'm having deja vu here. Tribute last year?
Originally by: A conversation
[ 2005.07.28 15:18:06 ] Edoo > theres nothing i can do about that sorry
[ 2005.07.28 15:18:13 ] Edoo > i have tried though
[ 2005.07.28 15:18:31 ] Edoo > he didnt know the rules
If an employee of a PA corporation doesn't know the rules you yourself enforce, then bloody enforce them.
Damn, I feel so confident when people say in the open that they don't even bother to explain their rules to their employees. Comedy!
Originally by: The Same Conversation
[ 2005.07.28 15:25:22 ] Edoo > he was not acting under the alliance charter so we cannot pay ourselves
Deja vu again. How about all those pre-gnw incidents that victimized Dek pilots, where your guys said that since it wasn't in PA space it wasn't alliance business?
Lovely people.
Originally by: Again! So much fun!
[ 2005.07.28 15:31:45 ] Edoo > then if have NPCed that much,surely money isnt a problem
Who cares? You guys made a mistake, replace the stuff. If you think the ISK value of the ship is exhaggerated, replace it in actual modules and not ISK.
So simple.
Seriously guys in the highly esteemed Phoenix Allinace, good job on refunding the guy. I hope you added some extra for troubles. And next time, be quicker about it? And realize that the second one of yours breaks your charter is the second just ahead of the moment when you repay the deed and punish the offender in a manner that is verifiable to everyone.
That's how to keep a trustworthy image. Something the PA seems to have difficulties with, and has bled richly for on several occasions. Learn from the past, okey?
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Paladineguru
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Posted - 2005.07.29 16:17:00 -
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I had to work, but i check forums during the day
and immediatly made moves necessary to do what was right in this situation both by PA and OCC beliefs
and settled it as soon as I was home from a 12 hour day.
One of the only problems with a representative democracy is sometimes the speed at which such an organization acts, the fact that debate, fact finding, votes and the democratic process in general
is the systems only flaw, and while othnark's actions were an embarrassing incident for OCC
I think that the unecessary flaming , or even posting by parties uninvolved is just as reprehensible, this is an incident that while regretable, was easy to solve as he had a very legitimate greivance and the numbers of people involved in our current war as well as some of our own hotheads posting here was unecessary and in some places , just blatant propoganda of a type that is disgusting. yet one more reason why PA has rules against unauthorized posting on e-o forums.
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Black Bill
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Posted - 2005.07.29 17:24:00 -
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The attack on MeatHelmetz wasn't in isolated incident, check this log from the PA boards
[ 2005.07.28 14:35:38 ] Fan3Spoitoru > ask them again
[ 2005.07.28 14:35:41 ] Fan3Spoitoru > i said
[ 2005.07.28 14:35:43 ] Fan3Spoitoru > i shot ua
[ 2005.07.28 14:35:47 ] Fan3Spoitoru > a deliberate atak
[ 2005.07.28 14:36:28 ] Fan3Spoitoru > I KILLED U ON PURPOSE
[ 2005.07.28 14:36:51 ] Ramireza > again : why you killed immemoria ?
[ 2005.07.28 14:37:03 ] Fan3Spoitoru > cose i have a f******* big DIC*
[ 2005.07.28 14:37:17 ] Ramireza > so PA shoot at neutrals in neutral space ?
[ 2005.07.28 14:37:21 ] Fan3Spoitoru > npo
[ 2005.07.28 14:37:22 ] Fan3Spoitoru > i do
[ 2005.07.28 14:37:31 ] Fan3Spoitoru > he owes me
[ 2005.07.28 14:37:33 ] Fan3Spoitoru > 20 milion
[ 2005.07.28 14:37:35 ] Ramireza > o_O
[ 2005.07.28 14:37:36 ] Fan3Spoitoru > from 30 minutes ago
[ 2005.07.28 14:37:45 ] Fan3Spoitoru > he damaged my crow
[ 2005.07.28 14:38:13 ] Deep Echo > lol, i was in a indy, how did i dmaged your crow ?
[ 2005.07.28 14:38:26 ] Fan3Spoitoru > you scratched it
[ 2005.07.28 14:38:26 ] xVx Moat > <br>you guys having a good day?
[ 2005.07.28 14:38:26 ] Gwen Horach > how? with his indy?
[ 2005.07.28 14:38:55 ] Fan3Spoitoru > talk to my ceo and sue me
[ 2005.07.28 14:39:04 ] Fan3Spoitoru > talk to the head of my allaince pls
[ 2005.07.28 14:39:12 ] Fan3Spoitoru > if u want u can talk to god
[ 2005.07.28 14:39:24 ] Ramireza > well, and they tolorate shooting neutrals in neutral space fan ?
[ 2005.07.28 14:39:30 ] Fan3Spoitoru > n
[ 2005.07.28 14:39:32 ] Fan3Spoitoru > o
[ 2005.07.28 14:39:38 ] Fan3Spoitoru > they are against it
[ 2005.07.28 14:39:45 ] Immemoria > scratched ? lol
[ 2005.07.28 14:39:52 ] Fan3Spoitoru > BUT U SAID THIS IS NOT PA SPACE
[ 2005.07.28 14:39:59 ] Fan3Spoitoru > so i killed him as i pleased
[ 2005.07.28 14:40:01 ] Fan3Spoitoru > kill me
[ 2005.07.28 14:40:06 ] Ramireza > well, PB wasnt pa space
[ 2005.07.28 14:41:24 ] Drommy > hmm me lost
[ 2005.07.28 14:41:30 ] Drommy > who'd ya shoot fan?
[ 2005.07.28 14:41:43 ] Fan3Spoitoru > some duide that sratched my crow
[ 2005.07.28 14:41:54 ] Fan3Spoitoru > he owes me money neaw
[ 2005.07.28 14:41:55 ] Fan3Spoitoru > 20 mil
[ 2005.07.28 14:41:57 ] Drommy > immemoria?
[ 2005.07.28 14:42:00 ] Fan3Spoitoru > yep
[ 2005.07.28 14:42:11 ] Immemoria > hi Drommy
[ 2005.07.28 14:42:16 ] Drommy > hey mate
[ 2005.07.28 14:42:44 ] Immemoria > this bastard killed my indy killed my pod, did pirating
[ 2005.07.28 14:42:52 ] Drommy > yeh so it seems
[ 2005.07.28 14:43:12 ] Fan3Spoitoru > yep
[ 2005.07.28 14:43:17 ] Fan3Spoitoru > that`s rthe word
drommy (ceo of SIRIO , PA applicants) |
Jade Ro
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Posted - 2005.07.29 17:35:00 -
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lol thats good stuff....
Im going to have some of that tea now..
So much for a corp that is against Pirating... looks like most of your members are pirates...lol
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Nataboo
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Posted - 2005.07.29 18:05:00 -
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You know Paladineguru, again I salute you for taking care of the issue. But the reason that some of us NOOB corps and NOOB players are taking a part in this is because we want to know are we next. Should we all go run and dock as sooon as we see PA in the system. You see this is a bigger issue then just an incident between Meathelmetz and the PA or OCC for that matter.
Hey I understand that some players are just outright rats or bullies. But the main point here is that you represent PA and PA has stated the values it stands for. So it is safe to assume that any corp part of an alliance or member part of a corp is crystal clear what that corp or alliance stands for and is willing to follow those guidelines. If they wana be a pirate then there are many pirate corps to join I am sure. Send them packing and let them see if they would make it.
Paladineguru again I have respect for "you" at this moment. You have spoken as a diplomat should and have handled the issue at hand.
But the question remains. If I stray into 0.0 or close in my hauler will I be shot? (no weapons by the way, only cargo expanders and AB)
Which by the way I do venture into 0.0 often.
Thanks again,
Nataboo
High Admiral Aurora Fleet |
Drommy
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Posted - 2005.07.29 18:18:00 -
[88]
Originally by: Black Bill
Edited by: Black Bill on 29/07/2005 17:56:15
The attack on MeatHelmetz wasn't in isolated incident, check this log from the PA boards
[ 2005.07.28 14:35:38 ] Fan3Spoitoru > ask them again
[ 2005.07.28 14:35:41 ] Fan3Spoitoru > i said
[ 2005.07.28 14:35:43 ] Fan3Spoitoru > i shot ua
[ 2005.07.28 14:35:47 ] Fan3Spoitoru > a deliberate atak
[ 2005.07.28 14:36:28 ] Fan3Spoitoru > I KILLED U ON PURPOSE
[ 2005.07.28 14:36:51 ] Ramireza > again : why you killed immemoria ?
[ 2005.07.28 14:37:03 ] Fan3Spoitoru > cose i have a f******* big DIC*
[ 2005.07.28 14:37:17 ] Ramireza > so PA shoot at neutrals in neutral space ?
[ 2005.07.28 14:37:21 ] Fan3Spoitoru > npo
[ 2005.07.28 14:37:22 ] Fan3Spoitoru > i do
[ 2005.07.28 14:37:31 ] Fan3Spoitoru > he owes me
[ 2005.07.28 14:37:33 ] Fan3Spoitoru > 20 milion
[ 2005.07.28 14:37:35 ] Ramireza > o_O
[ 2005.07.28 14:37:36 ] Fan3Spoitoru > from 30 minutes ago
[ 2005.07.28 14:37:45 ] Fan3Spoitoru > he damaged my crow
[ 2005.07.28 14:38:13 ] Deep Echo > lol, i was in a indy, how did i dmaged your crow ?
[ 2005.07.28 14:38:26 ] Fan3Spoitoru > you scratched it
[ 2005.07.28 14:38:26 ] xVx Moat > <br>you guys having a good day?
[ 2005.07.28 14:38:26 ] Gwen Horach > how? with his indy?
[ 2005.07.28 14:38:55 ] Fan3Spoitoru > talk to my ceo and sue me
[ 2005.07.28 14:39:04 ] Fan3Spoitoru > talk to the head of my allaince pls
[ 2005.07.28 14:39:12 ] Fan3Spoitoru > if u want u can talk to god
[ 2005.07.28 14:39:24 ] Ramireza > well, and they tolorate shooting neutrals in neutral space fan ?
[ 2005.07.28 14:39:30 ] Fan3Spoitoru > n
[ 2005.07.28 14:39:32 ] Fan3Spoitoru > o
[ 2005.07.28 14:39:38 ] Fan3Spoitoru > they are against it
[ 2005.07.28 14:39:45 ] Immemoria > scratched ? lol
[ 2005.07.28 14:39:52 ] Fan3Spoitoru > BUT U SAID THIS IS NOT PA SPACE
[ 2005.07.28 14:39:59 ] Fan3Spoitoru > so i killed him as i pleased
[ 2005.07.28 14:40:01 ] Fan3Spoitoru > kill me
[ 2005.07.28 14:40:06 ] Ramireza > well, PB wasnt pa space
[ 2005.07.28 14:41:24 ] Drommy > hmm me lost
[ 2005.07.28 14:41:30 ] Drommy > who'd ya shoot fan?
[ 2005.07.28 14:41:43 ] Fan3Spoitoru > some duide that sratched my crow
[ 2005.07.28 14:41:54 ] Fan3Spoitoru > he owes me money neaw
[ 2005.07.28 14:41:55 ] Fan3Spoitoru > 20 mil
[ 2005.07.28 14:41:57 ] Drommy > immemoria?
[ 2005.07.28 14:42:00 ] Fan3Spoitoru > yep
[ 2005.07.28 14:42:11 ] Immemoria > hi Drommy
[ 2005.07.28 14:42:16 ] Drommy > hey mate
[ 2005.07.28 14:42:44 ] Immemoria > this b******d killed my indy killed my pod, did pirating
[ 2005.07.28 14:42:52 ] Drommy > yeh so it seems
[ 2005.07.28 14:43:12 ] Fan3Spoitoru > yep
[ 2005.07.28 14:43:17 ] Fan3Spoitoru > that`s rthe word
drommy (ceo of SIRIO , PA applicants)
Edit to * out expletive i did't notice
ERM id like to point out at this point, that within 1 hour my furum post had been read and replied to. within the day, the hauler in question was fully re-imbursed, fully appologised to. and fan3 was ejected from the alliance and set to KOS
Give PA a break FFS
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A good leader takes their people where they want to go
A great leader takes their people not where they necessarily want to go, but ought too. |
Nataboo
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Posted - 2005.07.29 18:20:00 -
[89]
I was wondering about that incident. Good to know it was handled.
Nataboo
High Admiral Aurora Fleet |
Yuki Li
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Posted - 2005.07.29 18:22:00 -
[90]
This is all very, very funny stuff.
It's no big secret that a couple of the PA's more egotistical corporations really don't give a damn who they shoot, it's also no secret that the rest of the alliance doesn't have what it takes to come down on the offenders, for fear of losing the corporations and thus a great deal of combatants...
This is no suprise at all 
[ 2004.07.31 17:31:00 ] (combat) Gallente Police Major strikes you perfectly, wrecking for 427.9 damage.
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