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Daniel Jackson
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Posted - 2005.07.28 23:49:00 -
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searious when will ccp start thing about the players, and actualy listen to them, and start fixing things, i mean come on, ever since eve started eve has been having problums, and people have been sugesting alot of things to fix them. and ccp just made things worse.
CCP needs to wake up and start listening to players.
any 1 who feels the same way about CCP, please reply
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Wild Rho
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Posted - 2005.07.28 23:51:00 -
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Edited by: Wild Rho on 28/07/2005 23:51:39
Originally by: Daniel Jackson searious when will ccp start thing about the players, and actualy listen to them, and start fixing things, i mean come on, ever since eve started eve has been having problums, and people have been sugesting alot of things to fix them. and ccp just made things worse.
CCP needs to wake up and start listening to players.
any 1 who feels the same way about CCP, please reply
So long as they aren't listening to you everything will be fine.
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Wira
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Posted - 2005.07.28 23:51:00 -
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Originally by: Daniel Jackson searious when will ccp start thing about the players, and actualy listen to them, and start fixing things, i mean come on, ever since eve started eve has been having problums, and people have been sugesting alot of things to fix them. and ccp just made things worse.
CCP needs to wake up and start listening to players.
any 1 who feels the same way about CCP, please reply
I think I need a translator, and I am totally serious.  
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Blind Man
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Posted - 2005.07.28 23:56:00 -
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IMO...They are listening to players more than any other mmog i've played...and I think right now they are listening to people more than not.. (\_/) (O.o) (> <) This is Bunny. Copy Bunny into your signature to help him on his way to world domination. |

Tekka
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Posted - 2005.07.29 00:00:00 -
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Edited by: Tekka on 29/07/2005 00:00:17
Originally by: Daniel Jackson searious when will ccp start thing about the players, and actualy listen to them, and start fixing things, i mean come on, ever since eve started eve has been having problums, and people have been sugesting alot of things to fix them. and ccp just made things worse.
CCP needs to wake up and start listening to players.
any 1 who feels the same way about CCP, please reply
DJWTFDIDHESAYTRANSLATORv1.0Ö
"CCP will not listen to me"

If anything CCP is listening to the players too much
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Admiral Pieg
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Posted - 2005.07.29 00:06:00 -
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Originally by: Wira
Originally by: Daniel Jackson searious when will ccp start thing about the players, and actualy listen to them, and start fixing things, i mean come on, ever since eve started eve has been having problums, and people have been sugesting alot of things to fix them. and ccp just made things worse.
CCP needs to wake up and start listening to players.
any 1 who feels the same way about CCP, please reply
I think I need a translator, and I am totally serious.  
You need a brain, his post was perfectly understandable. ______________
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Avalon Beholder
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Posted - 2005.07.29 00:14:00 -
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Edited by: Avalon Beholder on 29/07/2005 00:14:44
Originally by: Daniel Jackson searious when will ccp start thing about the players, and actualy listen to them, and start fixing things, i mean come on, ever since eve started eve has been having problums, and people have been sugesting alot of things to fix them. and ccp just made things worse.
CCP needs to wake up and start listening to players.
any 1 who feels the same way about CCP, please reply
PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE go back to school.
"Reply here all who think water should be wet!"
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Kaell Meynn
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Posted - 2005.07.29 00:18:00 -
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Originally by: Daniel Jackson searious when will ccp start thing about the players, and actualy listen to them, and start fixing things, i mean come on, ever since eve started eve has been having problums, and people have been sugesting alot of things to fix them. and ccp just made things worse.
CCP needs to wake up and start listening to players.
any 1 who feels the same way about CCP, please reply
They will start around the same time you learn to spell? 
Seriously though, they do listen to the players. It's just that the players want contradictory things. You can't give in to everyones wants, because they are different. Half the people want Instas removed, half don't, what do you want them to do? They can't both remove instas AND not remove instas. Half the people want sec hits for attacks in 0.0 space, half want concord to leave the game altogether and have no sec status at all. You can't do both. They listen to the vocal minority on the forums, then consider the points, and come to a conclustion as to what they think will be the most fun for the most players and goes along with their vision of what Eve should be, then decide a course of action that fits in with thier resources.
What you are asking is IMPOSSIBLE.
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Joshua Foiritain
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Posted - 2005.07.29 00:20:00 -
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Edited by: Joshua Foiritain on 29/07/2005 00:21:02 When CCP isnt listening to your suggestions they might actually have a good reason to do so They should listen less though, sometimes nerfing is a good thing... ------------------
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Meridius
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Posted - 2005.07.29 00:22:00 -
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Originally by: Tekka Edited by: Tekka on 29/07/2005 00:00:17
Originally by: Daniel Jackson searious when will ccp start thing about the players, and actualy listen to them, and start fixing things, i mean come on, ever since eve started eve has been having problums, and people have been sugesting alot of things to fix them. and ccp just made things worse.
CCP needs to wake up and start listening to players.
any 1 who feels the same way about CCP, please reply
DJWTFDIDHESAYTRANSLATORv1.0Ö
"CCP will not listen to me"

If anything CCP is listening to the players too much
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fairimear
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Posted - 2005.07.29 00:26:00 -
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CCP need to listen to you less and me more.
1. ban daniel from forums for a week. 2. give tekka a medal for that post. 3. ggive me a t2 machariel.
 (\_/) (O.o) (> <) This is Bunny. Copy Bunny into your signature to help him on his way to world Domination.
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Fellhand
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Posted - 2005.07.29 00:27:00 -
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Of all of Eve's unanswered questions, why the devs listen in any way, shape or form to the tiny minority on the forums who are firstly, almost entirely committed to seeing things purely from their benefit and secondly, are almost entirely pvp junkies, is one of the most challenging.
To my mind though, the more interesting questions are ones like: If I can pay for my monthly sub by Paypal, why can't I use Paypal in the shop? How stupid were we for believing that the industrial content of Exodus would ever show up? What do the drugs on the in-game market actually do? Conversely, why don't the NPC drug carriers actually carry drugs? Which idiot didn't realise the T2 lottery would lead to price gouging and monopolisation of resources? Why is there never a signal painter in rat drops, despite them obviously using one to achieve locks faster than a ferret on speed? _______________________________________________ There is no such thing as too much cynicism
Flame me if you wish, I laugh with scorn at threats...
Beware of geeks bearing gifs
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Ikvar
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Posted - 2005.07.29 00:39:00 -
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ParMizaN > DANIEL JACKSON THREAD
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Pherus
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Posted - 2005.07.29 00:44:00 -
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Quote: Why is there never a signal painter in rat drops, despite them obviously using one to achieve locks faster than a ferret on speed?
I actually found one once in loot, can't use it though, don't have the skills :(
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F'nog
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Posted - 2005.07.29 00:51:00 -
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Originally by: Pherus
Quote: Why is there never a signal painter in rat drops, despite them obviously using one to achieve locks faster than a ferret on speed?
I actually found one once in loot, can't use it though, don't have the skills :(
Angels seem to love to drop painters.
Originally by: Morela
"hey! I'm gonna go attack the north! Afk till tuesday!"
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OffBeaT
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Posted - 2005.07.29 01:01:00 -
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yea, some of these changes are going no where for the game it seems. they are gona have too start doing a better job i hope soon or start getting new blood in on the thinking of this game. they cant just keep adding more and more skills to us then calling that more contant for the game, it just an't. its what i call a drag.
lets start working on the real problems of the game like 00 or ship rolls in the game. better mission content, fix up the bugs some, work out the fleet battle more so they dont end up just a long range shot out or gang banging.
get some control over that market becouse its getting somwhat out of hand. better missions, salvage ships with salvage agents. a real stat war like with the caldari/glant & so on.... eather they have a real small staff or they are just running out of real imagenation for this game. ccp got this far so i hope they can keep it going but i am starting too wonder.
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Selim
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Posted - 2005.07.29 01:05:00 -
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Daniel Jackson for Emperor?
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Cloned Mark
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Posted - 2005.07.29 01:15:00 -
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Originally by: Daniel Jackson searious when will ccp start thing about the players, and actualy listen to them, and start fixing things, i mean come on, ever since eve started eve has been having problums, and people have been sugesting alot of things to fix them. and ccp just made things worse.
CCP needs to wake up and start listening to players.
any 1 who feels the same way about CCP, please reply
Word! -----------------------------
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Toshiro Khan
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Posted - 2005.07.29 02:58:00 -
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Originally by: Ikvar ParMizaN > DANIEL JACKSON THREAD

Never .... after all DJ, is up for a Darwin award.
So therefore DJ > ParMizaN.
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jbob2000
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Posted - 2005.07.29 03:59:00 -
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Originally by: Daniel Jackson searious when will ccp start thing about the players, and actualy listen to them, and start fixing things, i mean come on, ever since eve started eve has been having problums, and people have been sugesting alot of things to fix them. and ccp just made things worse.
CCP needs to wake up and start listening to players.
any 1 who feels the same way about CCP, please reply
Please, think out your posts before you post them. They can't always listen to the player base because i'm sure that 99% of them haven't developed MMOs so they don't know what's good for a game and what's not. CCP know what they're doing.
Sure their are bugs, some more serioues than others, but what game, or program for that matter doesn't have bugs? It's called being human.
Maybe you should have a read (if you can): Don't Listen to the Fans. -----------------------------------------------
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Graelyn
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Posted - 2005.07.29 04:09:00 -
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You're Daniel Jackson!
That has to suck! What's it like? 
Not your average Amarrian Loyalist....
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Saldara
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Posted - 2005.07.29 05:00:00 -
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There's a formula for this.
Bad Spelling + Poor Grammar = Modern Education System
Do the Math...... If you can.....
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Aitrus
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Posted - 2005.07.29 05:14:00 -
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Originally by: Daniel Jackson searious when will ccp start thing about the players, and actualy listen to them, and start fixing things, i mean come on, ever since eve started eve has been having problums, and people have been sugesting alot of things to fix them. and ccp just made things worse.
CCP needs to wake up and start listening to players.
any 1 who feels the same way about CCP, please reply
If players knew anything about game design, they would be designing games, not whining on forums.
I would trust the professionals a lot more than the playerbase.
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Juliette Red
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Posted - 2005.07.29 06:01:00 -
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Originally by: Daniel Jackson searious when will ccp start thing about the players, and actualy listen to them, and start fixing things, i mean come on, ever since eve started eve has been having problums, and people have been sugesting alot of things to fix them. and ccp just made things worse.
CCP needs to wake up and start listening to players.
any 1 who feels the same way about CCP, please reply
You are a fud , go and play WoW and leave us alone please 
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Dufas
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Posted - 2005.07.29 06:15:00 -
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Originally by: Juliette Red
Originally by: Daniel Jackson searious when will ccp start thing about the players, and actualy listen to them, and start fixing things, i mean come on, ever since eve started eve has been having problums, and people have been sugesting alot of things to fix them. and ccp just made things worse.
CCP needs to wake up and start listening to players.
any 1 who feels the same way about CCP, please reply
You are a fud , go and play WoW and leave us alone please 
ROFL best post ever
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Basileus
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Posted - 2005.07.29 06:39:00 -
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Recipe for a flamefest
ingredients
- one ounce of moaning at CCP
- one call for replies to your constructive (..) thread
- one tablespoon of bad english
- salt
- pepper
Stir and mix the ingredients in the Eve General Discussion forum for best results. Wait for 10 minutes. Watch as the flamefest develops naturally (don't force it). Serve with a bit of trolling.
Enjoy.
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PiniclePanda
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Posted - 2005.07.29 07:35:00 -
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Quote: When will ccp get searious
Why do you want CCP to shop at Sears? Do they even have those in Iceland?
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Zaldiri
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Posted - 2005.07.29 08:02:00 -
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Methinks Daniel Jacksons a wee bit bitter about losing the "I win!" button on his raven.
----------------------------------------------- Admiral of King Frieza's Super Saiyan fleet.
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Godgifu
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Posted - 2005.07.29 08:21:00 -
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Edited by: Godgifu on 29/07/2005 08:22:40
Originally by: Aitrus If players knew anything about game design, they would be designing games, not whining on forums. I would trust the professionals a lot more than the playerbase.
Of course, some real turkeys of the gaming world have been designed by professionals, so that doesn't mean much. It's not like there's a school where you can get a degree in game design, at best they are enthusiastic amateurs, who every once in a while get a good idea and have the resources to develop it.
What comes to listening to the forums, there are real gold nuggets sometimes, and sometimes someone posts an idea that self-immolates under the weight of its own stupidity... so they ought to listen, but exercise caution (besides, some posters here might actually design games).
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Fester Addams
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Posted - 2005.07.29 09:01:00 -
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Ok, say that CCP starts listening to players.
A large number of players say rollback the missile changes. Listen yes/no? A large number say nerf lev 4 missions. Listen yes/no? A large number say dont touch lev 4 missions. Listen yes/no?
You see the problem isnt listening to the players, the problem is wich players should they listen to.
Personally I think they should not listen unless the playerbase seems to more or less agree... wich is basicly never.
------------ 20. Is it true all pvpers have carebear alts? Yes, of course. I have so much fun looking up who's alt is who's 
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Fester Addams
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Posted - 2005.07.29 09:06:00 -
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Originally by: Avalon Beholder "Reply here all who think water should be wet!"
I vote it should be dry, it would cut the time it takes drying after shower or a bath off my mirning routine and I could add that time to my sleep time.
------------ 20. Is it true all pvpers have carebear alts? Yes, of course. I have so much fun looking up who's alt is who's 
kieron Community Manager, EVE Online |

Baleine4Nerver
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Posted - 2005.07.29 09:37:00 -
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Originally by: Basileus Recipe for a flamefest
ingredients
- one ounce of moaning at CCP
- one call for replies to your constructive (..) thread
- one tablespoon of bad english
- salt
- pepper
Stir and mix the ingredients in the Eve General Discussion forum for best results. Wait for 10 minutes. Watch as the flamefest develops naturally (don't force it). Serve with a bit of trolling.
Enjoy.
LOL brilliant
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James Lyrus
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Posted - 2005.07.29 09:50:00 -
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Originally by: Daniel Jackson searious when will ccp start thing about the players, and actualy listen to them, and start fixing things, i mean come on, ever since eve started eve has been having problums, and people have been sugesting alot of things to fix them. and ccp just made things worse.
CCP needs to wake up and start listening to players.
any 1 who feels the same way about CCP, please reply
I disagree. If anything the opposite. You see, democracy just doesn't work. Please remember that half of the population is of below average intelligence. And almost everyone will vote their best interest.
If you leave it to the playerbase, you'll get an escalation of weapons to the point where you have instakill ultra power stuff. And then the game starts to suck, everyone leaves, and no one realises why.
It's quite simple. Easy is boring. But few people are going to 'vote' for things that make their life harder (e.g. missiles changes). And many will whinge and moan that it's not fair, their lives just became harder.
I trust the EVE 'staff' to have a clear idea of where it's going. Occasionally they need player feedback, e.g. bug reports, or genuine concerns about 'exploits' and gameplay. But mostly, they need to _not_ listen to the rather huge number of whinging trolls, who moan how it's terrible, they're a paying customer so why can't they have a 'I win' button.
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Kaell Meynn
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Posted - 2005.07.29 09:54:00 -
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Originally by: Godgifu Of course, some real turkeys of the gaming world have been designed by professionals, so that doesn't mean much. It's not like there's a school where you can get a degree in game design,
Uhh, yes there is... http://www.etc.cmu.edu/about/what_text.html
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Godgifu
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Posted - 2005.07.29 10:04:00 -
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Originally by: Kaell Meynn Uhh, yes there is... http://www.etc.cmu.edu/about/what_text.html
I'm aware of that, but deliberately ignored it since it's so new that there aren't that many graduates and no real experiences with the results yet. At the moment, an overwhelming majority of people currently working in the field haven't gone there.
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Ninna
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Posted - 2005.07.29 10:31:00 -
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Quote: Personal attacks are prohibited. Commonly known as flaming, personal attacks are posts which are designed to personally berate or insult another. Text of this nature is not beneficial to the community spirit and will not be tolerated. Corporation, faction members and other players are cautioned to avoid allowing an "in character" dispute become an "out of character" personal attack. The game is designed for role playing and/or portraying a role and it is sometimes easy for tempers to flare when the lines between the virtual world and the real world are crossed. Keep in-game disputes in the game and off the forum, please, unless it is clearly a mutual, in character exchange.
Trolling is prohibited. Trolling is the word used to describe a post that is deliberately designed for the purpose of angering and insulting the members of the forum community. Posts of this nature are disruptive and do not convey a friendly attitude.
This is found under Rules for the forum. Grow up guys or dont post.
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Kaalise
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Posted - 2005.07.29 11:02:00 -
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Edited by: Kaalise on 29/07/2005 11:02:18
Originally by: Godgifu
Originally by: Kaell Meynn Uhh, yes there is... http://www.etc.cmu.edu/about/what_text.html
I'm aware of that, but deliberately ignored it since it's so new that there aren't that many graduates and no real experiences with the results yet. At the moment, an overwhelming majority of people currently working in the field haven't gone there.
How about these?
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Skeeve
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Posted - 2005.07.29 12:54:00 -
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Originally by: Daniel Jackson searious when will ccp start thing about the players, and actualy listen to them, and start fixing things, i mean come on, ever since eve started eve has been having problums, and people have been sugesting alot of things to fix them. and ccp just made things worse.
CCP needs to wake up and start listening to players.
any 1 who feels the same way about CCP, please reply
This wins my vote for most ill thought post of the week.. Please ...learn to use F7 (Spell check) and how to properly construct a sentance. CCP has made some great strides in improving the game (albeit with some rather poorly chosen "balances").
IMHO they need to dig down and finish swatting the myriad bugs still in Eve before they throw in additional content. It's a hard road to walk for CCP to balance the demands of players VS system development and debugging.
The last patch has shown numerous shortfalls in stability and balance. What would be REALLY nice is a quick official response from CCP on threads that ask specific (ie NON Flame / Whine) questions so that we, as players get a solid understanding of why they are taking a respective direction in development or balance.
I know it would mean a LOT of reading on their part, but the resultant smoothing of ruffled players feathers would go a long way in cutting down the "OMFG I hate CCP they NERFED me.. and ME alone.. they HATE me.. yada yada yada..."
"SHOW US YOUR HOOTERS!" - traditional greeting at the Annual Owl Fanciers Convention
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Siri Danae
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Posted - 2005.07.29 13:02:00 -
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Originally by: Fellhand Of all of Eve's unanswered questions, why the devs listen in any way, shape or form to the tiny minority on the forums who are firstly, almost entirely committed to seeing things purely from their benefit and secondly, are almost entirely pvp junkies, is one of the most challenging.
I'm surprised this comment hasn't caused a riot yet. Everyone must assume you're talking about someone else.
Nevertheless, I agree. ------ I generally assume the following: 1. 95% of Empire Carebears don't get 0.0 PVPers. 2. 95% of 0.0 PVPers don't get Empire Carebears. 3. 100% of Ore Thieves steal just to upset the Miners. |

Aitrus
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Posted - 2005.07.29 13:27:00 -
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Originally by: Skeeve
This wins my vote for most ill thought post of the week.. Please ...learn to use F7 (Spell check) and how to properly construct a sentance.
heh...
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Golden leadar
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Posted - 2007.12.11 01:59:00 -
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troll |

Crumplecorn
Gallente Eve Cluster Explorations
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Posted - 2007.12.11 02:01:00 -
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Originally by: Golden leadar troll
Epic Fail -
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Blind Man
Angel Deep Corporation
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Posted - 2007.12.11 02:02:00 -
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wow, way to get my hopes up for a DJ post 
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ArtemisEntreri
TALON'S GRIP
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Posted - 2007.12.11 02:02:00 -
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Originally by: Golden leadar troll
necro
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Cygnus Zhada
Amarr The Wild Hunt Pure.
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Posted - 2007.12.11 02:02:00 -
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Originally by: Golden leadar troll
I love the smell of dead, decayed bodies in the morning.
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Alski
Gallente Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2007.12.11 02:07:00 -
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Posting in a Daniel Jackson thre...wait..what? 
Fail. -
(combat) Patch belonging to CCP hits your drones, wrecking their liberty and freedom.
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Paulo Damarr
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Posted - 2007.12.11 02:09:00 -
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Whats up with you guys this is searious business, in fact its almost as serious as how well done you like your steaks. --------------------------------------- Output folder: C:\Program Files\CCP\EVE Delete file: \boot.ini Extract: boot.ini... 100% |
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ISD Rauth Kivaro
ISD STAR

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Posted - 2007.12.11 02:14:00 -
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Knock it off.
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