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dadar
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Posted - 2005.08.01 17:46:00 -
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I know there prob is hundreds of these posts but ore thiefs need to be dealt with. of course cpp doesn't care they would chose to reward thos who prefer to ruin the game time of others with no risk what so ever to themselves.
if you chose to even try and attack the ore thief concord responds so quick you can't takethem out with out useing a 100mil ship to do it then you lose theshiip makeing it evenmore stupid. takeing items out of a can droped bysomebody not in your gang should be considered an aggresive act that would allow other players to deal withthos attempting to steal from them. or atleast have concord deal with them. what kind of law enforcment kills the victim of a crime and not the one who comits the crime?
but like I said cpp doesn't care or they would fix this for players but of course if they cared they would do alot ofthings i guess.
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Cmdr Sy
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Posted - 2005.08.01 17:52:00 -
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The solution is mining in a lower-traffic system. Or even *gasp* in low-sec!  There, you can kill the ore thief before they even get to your can.
I've got carebear friends who do that, they lose ships every week to pirates, but still manage to turn a profit. So long as you think of losing ships as operating expenditure instead of taking it personally, I don't see the problem.
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Syrec
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Posted - 2005.08.01 17:54:00 -
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 Go buy some giant containers and train up the anchoring skill.
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dadar
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Posted - 2005.08.01 17:55:00 -
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i use to mine in low sec but decided to try level 3 missions and lost all 3 of my ferox on 3 hard missions back to back. now only have osprey left and been mineing for 6 days to build a new battleship can't m ine in low sec with an osprey as its made of paper.
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Nexus1972
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Posted - 2005.08.01 17:55:00 -
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Yeah if u jetcan mine then what do u expect?
Buy some Giants, anchor them, fill them then haul
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dadar
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Posted - 2005.08.01 17:58:00 -
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so i should put out 5 containers to mine into which have to be spaced out 5km apart which only hold 3k ore hmmm that sounds fair spend twice as long workign around secure containers to avoid the prob. na i would ra ther have a way to kill the thiefs
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Dark Shikari
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Posted - 2005.08.01 17:59:00 -
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 Originally by: dadar
so i should put out 5 containers to mine into which have to be spaced out 5km apart which only hold 3k ore hmmm that sounds fair spend twice as long workign around secure containers to avoid the prob. na i would ra ther have a way to kill the thiefs
Yeah, there is a way... mine in low sec.
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babyblue
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Posted - 2005.08.01 18:02:00 -
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Edited by: babyblue on 01/08/2005 18:03:08
You "use giant secure containers" guys are hilarious. You can't use them. You can't even anchor them next to anything less than 5k's away. I think CCP decided that absolutely everything in this game needs a "risk" attached to it, like putting your pants on in the morning (for our US viewers, I mean the things UNDERNEATH your trousers). Come to think of it, the majority of accidents in the home are caused by people putting pants and trousers on, so there is some realism in the idea as it's actually quite risky in real life..........
No, Ore Theft is probably CCP's big idea to move people out to low sec. The only problem is, it doesn't move them to low sec, it just irritates the hell out of them. Way to go (again) CCP once again showing they prefer to irritate their customers, than provide them with usable mechanisms to combat high-sec muppetism.
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HUGO DRAX
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Posted - 2005.08.01 18:04:00 -
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oh no not another ORE THIEF subject. I think a sticky called "ORE THIEF COMPLAINTS" should be made and everyone posts to it.
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Arcticblue2
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Posted - 2005.08.01 18:08:00 -
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Only riskfree proffesion in EVE is to be an orethief you are protected by concord, you can steal ore alot...
More risk to orethiefs is my toughts for the next patch.
Btw ... only once in my eve-time (over a year and a half) have I got ore stolen from me and it was not even much.
Lets face it you can't anchor secure containers closer than 5000 meters from nearest object, you can't anchor secure containers in 0.8 and up ... you can't mine much into a giant secure container either... it does not make mining efficient.
So guys stop using that use secure container argument it have been declared invalid from now okey ?
When you can use it in 0.8 and up, when you can anchor them in a cluster (closer than 5000 meter) and when you can use them with a large miningbarge then ... only then you can use that argument.
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Eviljohn
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Posted - 2005.08.01 18:47:00 -
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Even when ore thiefs are in corps you can war dec u dont.
The truth is the ore thiefs are preying on lazy idiots that cant adapt there game play and move away from the core systems and cry because they might have to use there brains for more then dragging and dropping.
I would be embarressed to post a orethief owned me comment on here it just shows how lame u are, but it gives 98 percent of ppl who know how to get around the problem amusment i guess
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Ryctor
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Posted - 2005.08.01 18:51:00 -
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Really Blue you need to stop making yourself look like an ass...
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Sergeant Spot
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Posted - 2005.08.01 18:51:00 -
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Sweet.
I don't see any idiots suggesting that ore theft is not even "theft". Seems they are finally getting it through their heads that Ore theft IS theft.
Now we just need to make ore thieves shootable by their victims WITHOUT causing Concord to activate or suffering a security drop.
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Dungar Loghoth
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Posted - 2005.08.01 18:52:00 -
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That's what you get for mining veldspar in 1.0 systems.
Get to low sec, less traveled, or you could even get a hauler. Or maybe join a corporation so you can mine with other people.
You also seem to be confused. Ore theft isn't about money, it's about the hatemail and idle threats you recieve after stealing someone's ore.
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Hllaxiu
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Posted - 2005.08.01 18:54:00 -
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^^ stupid alt
Proud member of Elite Academy. |
Hobbesie
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Posted - 2005.08.01 18:54:00 -
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People try ore thieving in low sec too - but once you shoot them they don't come back. hehe
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Ryctor
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Posted - 2005.08.01 18:55:00 -
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Oh ya ...and its not theft.
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Eviljohn
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Posted - 2005.08.01 19:00:00 -
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Originally by: Hobbesie
People try ore thieving in low sec too - but once you shoot them they don't come back. hehe
Use a -10 char jump into a lowsec system where ppl are mining they all insta dock and slag u off from the station then u clamly take there ore lol and yes 90 percent of the time it is that easy , they dont check the scanner before they hit the leg it button
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Sergeant Spot
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Posted - 2005.08.01 19:00:00 -
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Originally by: Ryctor
Oh ya ...and its not theft.
Thats just a baiting statement, and thus meaningless.
Make specific arguments on "why" you believe it is not theft, and I will utterly destroy your feeble poorly reasoned arguments.
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Summersnow
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Posted - 2005.08.01 19:34:00 -
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Originally by: Dungar Loghoth
That's what you get for mining veldspar in 1.0 systems.
Why does mining veld in the system you start in equate to being the victem of RISK FREE GRIEFING?
The op isn't asking for ore theft to be made impossible, only that the victem be allowed the opportunity to fight back.
How would you feel if a griefer was able to use a "legal exploit" to give a DN invasion fleet concord wtfpwn you protection if you tried to stop it from wtfpwn every POS in your stain empire and you got to sit by and watch everything you've done in game go up in smoke thanks to CCP & bs agro rules?
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Khargos
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Posted - 2005.08.01 19:39:00 -
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the problem with ore theiving is that it screws up risk vs reward. YOU HEAR ME YOU PVP POWERGAMERS IT SCREWS UP RISK VS REWARD.
therefore by your infallable logic it should be destroyed.
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Amaron Ghant
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Posted - 2005.08.01 19:40:00 -
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If you jettison it (whatever IT is) Concord assumes you dont want it.
There are ways to avoid being the victim of ore thieves. Haulers, secure cans, organisation, location.
Ore thieves suck for sure but you wont hear me whining because I take steps to avoid being a victim.
Roids are a Menece I tell you, hunt then down I say, hunt them down!!
Amaron Ghant the Mad Caldari Miner |
Dark Shikari
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Posted - 2005.08.01 19:41:00 -
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Edited by: Dark Shikari on 01/08/2005 19:41:27
Originally by: Khargos
the problem with ore theiving is that it screws up risk vs reward. YOU HEAR ME YOU PVP POWERGAMERS IT SCREWS UP RISK VS REWARD.
therefore by your infallable logic it should be destroyed.
Mining in a belt AFK in an indy has ZERO RISK and earns more than ore thieving. You don't even need to be at your computer.
QED?
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Siri Danae
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Posted - 2005.08.01 19:43:00 -
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Ore thieves go where there are high populations of jetcan miners. So MOVE. GET OUT OF High-Density 1.0!
Adapt your tactics, not the game.
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Kerby Lane
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Posted - 2005.08.01 19:44:00 -
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Originally by: Khargos
the problem with ore theiving is that it screws up risk vs reward. YOU HEAR ME YOU PVP POWERGAMERS IT SCREWS UP RISK VS REWARD.
therefore by your infallable logic it should be destroyed.
Why ?
Miners risk ore to ore theifs because they want mine in jet can.
It is similair as with the scammers. Scammers dont have any risk except lose of reputation and the loss of stupid people in the game.
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Khargos
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Posted - 2005.08.01 19:48:00 -
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Originally by: Kerby Lane
Originally by: Khargos
the problem with ore theiving is that it screws up risk vs reward. YOU HEAR ME YOU PVP POWERGAMERS IT SCREWS UP RISK VS REWARD.
therefore by your infallable logic it should be destroyed.
Why ?
Miners risk ore to ore theifs because they want mine in jet can.
It is similair as with the scammers. Scammers dont have any risk except lose of reputation and the loss of stupid people in the game.
wow reread the post, its not risk to the miner, DUH, its the ore theif who risks nothing, obviously.
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Seth Killbain
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Posted - 2005.08.01 19:48:00 -
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Originally by: Summersnow
Originally by: Dungar Loghoth
That's what you get for mining veldspar in 1.0 systems.
Why does mining veld in the system you start in equate to being the victem of RISK FREE GRIEFING?
The op isn't asking for ore theft to be made impossible, only that the victem be allowed the opportunity to fight back.
How would you feel if a griefer was able to use a "legal exploit" to give a DN invasion fleet concord wtfpwn you protection if you tried to stop it from wtfpwn every POS in your stain empire and you got to sit by and watch everything you've done in game go up in smoke thanks to CCP & bs agro rules?
Cant believe im quoteing 
You cant use that statement as true, as they are in unsecure space, protecting themselves and reaping from there efforts.
The risks they take are FAR greater then some little griefer come by to nick a bit of ore.
Come on reality check with the argument, there are loads of ways to get around it, use your noggin and think where you are and what your doing.
For me to earn my isk, i have to take high risks, (lost about 180 mill a few days ago).
With lots of travel and associated risks, what im saying is stop being flippin lazy, move around, and stop whining.
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Seth Killbain
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Posted - 2005.08.01 19:57:00 -
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And just as an aditional point, you dont want to be able to shoot them in empire, if that happens, then they will have to be allowed to defend themselves to be fair.
The fact that some of the thieves i have seen are Bored PvPers will mean a fair few blasted miners floating about.
And additionally this will bring a whole new level to you in terms of griefing, it will be done just so people can initiate PvP against you.
Anyways dont matter to me either way.
Cheerio!
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Cloue
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Posted - 2005.08.01 20:13:00 -
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Edited by: Cloue on 01/08/2005 20:13:55
All you people saying mine in low sec,are well i wont say, if you mine in low sec yes you dont have to worry about ore thiefs no you have to worry of something bigger and thats player rats which would have a field day with barges to destroy, secure containers are worthless and good for nothing.So how would you like it if you are doing a mission in empire space and someone warps in to take all ur loot from all the kills you got, who said the thee loot is yours its out there for anyone to take.. plz think about it people
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JaiMaster
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Posted - 2005.08.01 20:15:00 -
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Edited by: JaiMaster on 01/08/2005 20:15:40
Originally by: Arcticblue2
Lets face it you can't anchor secure containers closer than 5000 meters from nearest object, you can't anchor secure containers in 0.8 and up ... you can't mine much into a giant secure container either... it does not make mining efficient.
So guys stop using that use secure container argument it have been declared invalid from now okey ?
When you can use it in 0.8 and up, when you can anchor them in a cluster (closer than 5000 meter) and when you can use them with a large miningbarge then ... only then you can use that argument.
The reasoning behind no secures in 0.8+ was to get hardcore veld-sucking idiots out of newbiespace and into 0.7 and lower. Obviously it didnt work.
Until then, anyone who can be bothered stealing your Veldspar is a hero in my books... a legitimate champion of the poor newbies who too often get stuck in the tutorial because they cant find a single veld rock to aim their miner I at after some loser in a large barge already stripped all the belts in the newbie systems...
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Your end.
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