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Bhaal
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Posted - 2005.08.05 00:03:00 -
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Do we have any hard/soft (ok, take a damn guess) numbers how many of each make up the 60,000 subscriptions?
Reading the US vs UK PC Gammer articles, I wonder if our cultures look for different things out of PC games...
Is PCG UK so high on EVE because it's a non-US based MMO?
Does the UK gamming community like it so much because the game is not infested with US gamers like many other MMO's?
Just some questions I've been pondering since reading the PCG UK thread...
Are US & UK gamers afraid of what could happen to EVE if/when it's opened up to the Asian market?
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Amox
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Posted - 2005.08.05 00:06:00 -
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Edited by: Amox on 05/08/2005 00:15:48
Originally by: Bhaal
Does the UK gamming community like it so much because the game is not infested with US gamers like many other MMO's?
What the heck is that supposed to mean? US gamers are no better than insects?
But to answer one of your question I think an asian market would ruin EVE.
Your Tachyon Beam Laser I perfectly strikes Blood Oracle, wrecking for 722.3 damage. |

Lord Dynastron
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Posted - 2005.08.05 00:11:00 -
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Originally by: Bhaal Do we have any hard/soft (ok, take a damn guess) numbers how many of each make up the 60,000 subscriptions?
Reading the US vs UK PC Gammer articles, I wonder if our cultures look for different things out of PC games...
Is PCG UK so high on EVE because it's a non-US based MMO?
Does the UK gamming community like it so much because the game is not infested with US gamers like many other MMO's?
Just some questions I've been pondering since reading the PCG UK thread...
Are US & UK gamers afraid of what could happen to EVE if/when it's opened up to the Asian market?
'Infested'? Pretty nasty way to put it.
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Bhaal
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Posted - 2005.08.05 00:23:00 -
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Quote: What the heck is that supposed to mean? US gamers are no better than insects?
I'm a US player.
And yes, a lot of the other MMO's I've played, I have felt were infested by a lot of US punks, etc... Which can ruin the game. Just like how a lot of us fear the Asian market could ruin this game.
I've always complained that this game is a niche game, and could not attract the masses, but that may be a good thing, and a big reason why the UK gamers like EVE so much...
You have to admit, there are not too many "I want instant gratification" type players in EVE. I think that kind of gaming attitude comes more from US players, just my opinion though... ------------------------------------------------ Current Hobby other than EVE |

sableye
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Posted - 2005.08.05 00:24:00 -
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my corp is infested with americans but seriosly it is mainly americans and I'm the only UK person althought they used to be more, but seriously I think people play this game for one reason only its a dam good space game I don't think anyone will care how many americans play.
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Baldour Ngarr
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Posted - 2005.08.05 00:26:00 -
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Originally by: Amox What the heck is that supposed to mean? US gamers are no better than insects?
No, it just means some people might prefer playing a game that's mostly non-American. There aren't many out there; whether this one qualifies, I have no clue. Had to laugh, though, when I saw you taking umbrage at the suggestion that people can be bad for the game simply because they're American, and in the very next sentence, saying you think people can be bad for the game simply because they're Asian. Hypocrisy 4tw.
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Stuart85
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Posted - 2005.08.05 00:28:00 -
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Careful, this thread could get real nasty, real quick. 
Well the British gaming journos have all looked quite fondly on Eve so maybe that's why it's done so well here. Also, it's worth noting that Britain has very active (and infamous) press, and this applies not only to news, but also music, games, gossip etc. That may have an affect on the number of sales.
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Baldour Ngarr
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Posted - 2005.08.05 00:32:00 -
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Originally by: Stuart85 Edited by: Stuart85 on 05/08/2005 00:29:41 Careful, this thread could get real nasty, real quick. 
Too late, pal 
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Bhaal
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Posted - 2005.08.05 00:32:00 -
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Quote: more, but seriously I think people play this game for one reason only its a dam good space game I don't think anyone will care how many americans play.
I think the game mechanics do not hold the interest of the "typical" American gamer (except maybe ore thieving), that's what I'm getting at. I think it's a good thing for the whole community...
It would be cool to know the breakdown, as since launch, I have been in corp after corp where as an American player, I am in the minority... Which is not a bad thing at all, but very different from other MMO experiences... ------------------------------------------------ Current Hobby other than EVE |

Lord Dynastron
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Posted - 2005.08.05 00:32:00 -
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Originally by: Baldour Ngarr
Originally by: Amox What the heck is that supposed to mean? US gamers are no better than insects?
No, it just means some people might prefer playing a game that's mostly non-American.
And what is that supposed to mean? You're as bad as he is, just a little more subtle.
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Baldour Ngarr
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Posted - 2005.08.05 00:37:00 -
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Originally by: Lord Dynastron
Originally by: Baldour Ngarr
Originally by: Amox What the heck is that supposed to mean? US gamers are no better than insects?
No, it just means some people might prefer playing a game that's mostly non-American.
And what is that supposed to mean? You're as bad as he is, just a little more subtle.
Umm, no. You're assuming *I* posted that, or that *I* think it. You're wrong on both counts. I was just giving a paraphrase.
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Hamatitio
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Posted - 2005.08.05 00:37:00 -
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Edited by: Hamatitio on 05/08/2005 00:37:52 Brits can't be fleet leaders because their tea time always gets in the way. Welsh because they are busy with sheep and what not. Irish are too...err lucky? And, um, yeah.
Racism can go 2 ways. ------
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Bhaal
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Posted - 2005.08.05 00:39:00 -
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Quote: And what is that supposed to mean? You're as bad as he is, just a little more subtle.
Bad?
I'm not trying to start anything here, but being potitcally correct is not in my makeup...
I think on the whole, the UK gaming community is more mature, and it gives EVE a very different feel than many other MMO's that are dominated by American gamers.
Our cultures are different, and i think within MMO's, that difference is exasturbated in the way in which we interact within gaming communities such as these.
It seems when I do meet up with a fellow American player, they are of a more mature age (early 30's like me), and the maturity lvl of the EVE community on the whole is very appealing to us. It would not be that way if EVE attracted 1000's of 12-15 year old American boys... ------------------------------------------------ Current Hobby other than EVE |

Sarkos
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Posted - 2005.08.05 00:42:00 -
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Well, I confess. I am an Amaerican player. Yes, it's true. Masuat'aa Matari as well as most of Ushra'Khan are mostly from Europe, with a huge amount from the UK. You know what? They are a great bunch of people, so except for the hours difference, who cares where they are from? And who really gives a damn where I am from. We are all gamers here.
Sarkos
Either free the slaves or we will come and get them.
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Galk
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Posted - 2005.08.05 00:43:00 -
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Brits....
Prime example : David Braben
What did this guy do : Elite
What did all those british kids do on the bbc micros at the time: Play elite (among other micropower popular games)
Eve online in many british peoples eyes: Elite online
I think i speak for a nation when i make that as a prime example -------- 23 |

Bhaal
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Posted - 2005.08.05 00:45:00 -
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Edited by: Bhaal on 05/08/2005 00:45:28
Quote: And who really gives a damn where I am from. We are all gamers here.
True, I just wanted ppl's opinions on the subject. Thank you for yours  ------------------------------------------------ Current Hobby other than EVE |

Trepkos
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Posted - 2005.08.05 00:45:00 -
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Between Racial and Age discrimination, this thread lacks a point.
*Click* ----------------
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Stuart85
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Posted - 2005.08.05 00:48:00 -
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Edited by: Stuart85 on 05/08/2005 00:48:47
Originally by: Hamatitio Edited by: Hamatitio on 05/08/2005 00:37:52 Brits can't be fleet leaders because their tea time always gets in the way. Welsh because they are busy with sheep and what not. Irish are too...err lucky? And, um, yeah.
Racism can go 2 ways.
I think you mean xenophobia.
Anyway, generalisations won't get us anywhere, and I still think the most valid reason is the one I've already given further up.
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sableye
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Posted - 2005.08.05 00:52:00 -
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Originally by: Bhaal
Quote: more, but seriously I think people play this game for one reason only its a dam good space game I don't think anyone will care how many americans play.
I think the game mechanics do not hold the interest of the "typical" American gamer (except maybe ore thieving), that's what I'm getting at. I think it's a good thing for the whole community...
It would be cool to know the breakdown, as since launch, I have been in corp after corp where as an American player, I am in the minority... Which is not a bad thing at all, but very different from other MMO experiences...
I don't think the game holds much intrest for a typical gamer from any country to be honest, but to be fair there's very little differnce between what I woudl think of as the average UK player and the average american player, but I do think on thw whole people who play eve do seem to be more mature players who are'nt just out to be idiots.
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without
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Posted - 2005.08.05 01:00:00 -
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UK FTW
corp im in is mostly UK players, lots of corps seem to advertise UK europ time player, leading me to believe the EU and UK have more players than the US on eve
some ppl saying opening eve up to the asian market would be bad, want to explain Y?
i think in otehr topicks they said that asains would mine and sell on ebay ect cos their currency is low, WELL STFU
even if true, the price of isk ect will drop dramaticly on ebay ect, making it worthless to sell eve items, which is a good thing, means less CHEATING
what else oh yeh
UK FTW
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Khargos
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Posted - 2005.08.05 01:11:00 -
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oh ffs.
There are more UK players than americans.
There are both good and bad people in both countries. Get a grip people.
Im USA
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Bhaal
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Posted - 2005.08.05 01:17:00 -
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Edited by: Bhaal on 05/08/2005 01:17:35
Quote: oh ffs.
There are more UK players than americans.
There are both good and bad people in both countries. Get a grip people.
Im USA
Correct. But don't you agree that EVE would be very different if it did have many many more younger American players?
The DEV's are doing a good job keeping EVE a great game, but the player base is doing an equally good job as well, which is not the case in many other MMO's...
Of course each country has it's bad apples, but this game seems to appeal to UK gamers a bit more, and it has taken on some of their cutltural triats, rather than American traits. That's the way I see it anyways. Maybe it's because of my personal experiences in EVE and on TS, etc... ------------------------------------------------ Current Hobby other than EVE |

Amox
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Posted - 2005.08.05 01:22:00 -
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Edited by: Amox on 05/08/2005 01:27:04 Edited by: Amox on 05/08/2005 01:26:11 Edited by: Amox on 05/08/2005 01:23:19
Originally by: Baldour Ngarr
Originally by: Amox What the heck is that supposed to mean? US gamers are no better than insects?
No, it just means some people might prefer playing a game that's mostly non-American. There aren't many out there; whether this one qualifies, I have no clue. Had to laugh, though, when I saw you taking umbrage at the suggestion that people can be bad for the game simply because they're American, and in the very next sentence, saying you think people can be bad for the game simply because they're Asian. Hypocrisy 4tw.
Do a little research and then come back and tell me how much "Hypocrisy" is involved.
Dont get me wrong I have no beef with the asian community in any way shape or form. Its the asian isk farm the will open up on day one and destroy the value if the isk in this game. Just like wow and everquest.
Your Tachyon Beam Laser I perfectly strikes Blood Oracle, wrecking for 722.3 damage. |

Bhaal
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Posted - 2005.08.05 01:24:00 -
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Quote: Do a little research and then comr back ant tell me how much "Hypocrisy" in involved.
Exactly right, take off the political corrective lenses... ------------------------------------------------ Current Hobby other than EVE |

Deja Thoris
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Posted - 2005.08.05 01:24:00 -
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I'm UK based. I play EVE because I think it rocks.
If it was from Senegal or Moldovia I'd still play it. Fact is, it's from Iceland.
I have corp mates from both sides of the pond and enjoy the company of all equally.
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Cerberal
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Posted - 2005.08.05 01:26:00 -
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Originally by: Bhaal Do we have any hard/soft (ok, take a damn guess) numbers how many of each make up the 60,000 subscriptions?
Reading the US vs UK PC Gammer articles, I wonder if our cultures look for different things out of PC games...
Is PCG UK so high on EVE because it's a non-US based MMO?
Does the UK gamming community like it so much because the game is not infested with US gamers like many other MMO's?
Just some questions I've been pondering since reading the PCG UK thread...
Are US & UK gamers afraid of what could happen to EVE if/when it's opened up to the Asian market?
I like US gamers due to how competetive they get (i am one myself). They sometimes go to unneeded risks to achieve a goal.
I Like UK gamers because of their humor and overall friendlyness. But they get the job done.
Asians. Okay... Broken english doesnt really get on my nerves or anything, but laggy servers and corps with separate corp divisions with each maxed members might. And lets not forget kamikaze pilots rushing, or 500 frigates jumping your battleship squad because they were bored. No, please dont invite the asians.
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Bhaal
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Posted - 2005.08.05 01:30:00 -
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Edited by: Bhaal on 05/08/2005 01:30:29
Quote: I'm UK based. I play EVE because I think it rocks.
If it was from Senegal or Moldovia I'd still play it. Fact is, it's from Iceland.
I have corp mates from both sides of the pond and enjoy the company of all equally.
You think you would feel the same way if the game was US based, and was mainly populated by younger US players like other MMO's?
How much do the DEV's make EVE what it is, and how much do your fellow gamers contribute?
It's the corpmates I've had in the past 2+ years that has enabled EVE to hold my interest, more so than anything the DEV's have done...
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Syrec
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Posted - 2005.08.05 01:31:00 -
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Edited by: Syrec on 05/08/2005 01:32:25 I'm sad to see that replies in this thread had to draw the line on UK vs US, when the real line would be much younger players and older players. Age isn't always a sure measure of maturity, but life experience does lead one to learn how to control themselves.. and age can also develop different tastes in hobbies.
This isn't about young Americans, all Americans, or UK people. This game in and of itself appeals to a more intelligent and mature type of gamer. I would only hope that since we are more intelligent and mature than the typical FPS or MMOG, that we can get past politics and bias based on where we all live.
I'm an American if it's truely important to anyone browsing the thread. Feel free to put me on your block list if that makes you dislike me. 
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Bhaal
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Posted - 2005.08.05 01:41:00 -
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Edited by: Bhaal on 05/08/2005 01:41:05
Quote: I'm an American if it's truely important to anyone browsing the thread. Feel free to put me on your block list if that makes you dislike me.
Not the point at all dude, I'm an American and not a masochist.
However, since it appears this game is mostly UK players, I wanted to get a feel for what others think. EVE's player base attracts me, because of the mature player base, which appears to be mostly UK, and void of the typical younger American gamer en mass that can ruin an online community with the instant gratification mentality.
Does this game not attract the younger American players because of the deeply entrenched UK/mature player base? Or is it simply EVE itself that turns those players away?
This game creates deep interaction with other players, mainly due to it's overwhelming dedication to forcing situational PvP, complimented with a small amount of PvE, and not much at all in the way of spoon fed/scripted PvE... It makes instant gratification near impossible, hence driving away what I think most of us feel is a damaging element to an online community...
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Amox
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Posted - 2005.08.05 01:42:00 -
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Originally by: Syrec This game in and of itself appeals to a more intelligent and mature type of gamer.
Oh yea prove it. 
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