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Brooks Puuntai
Solar Nexus.
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Posted - 2013.02.28 12:53:00 -
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So in actuality 100k people with 400k alts. Don't Vote for Malcanis
New Eden Training Simulation. -áIdea to improve NPE. |

Xpaulusx
Naari LLC Marauder Syndicate
200
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Posted - 2013.02.28 12:54:00 -
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Posting in Alts Online thread  ...................................................... |
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CCP Fozzie
C C P C C P Alliance
4297

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Posted - 2013.02.28 12:54:00 -
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Confirming that every single character in EVE is actually part of my vast alt network. Game Designer | Team Five-0 https://twitter.com/CCP_Fozzie |
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Halete
Alexylva Paradox
684
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Posted - 2013.02.28 12:56:00 -
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Do we get free stuff? Trading chains for shackles, I am free. |

Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises
1185
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Posted - 2013.02.28 12:59:00 -
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Mhax Arthie wrote:Not sure how many subs are in China, but lets assume all these numbers are on the same server. So there are 500K accounts and ~50K players online every day. This means each of us would have around 10 account. Man... this is serious boting :|
50k is the Peak Concurrent Users. Not the total number of people who've connected.
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Kimiko Tojima
Daughters of Hada
13
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Posted - 2013.02.28 12:59:00 -
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EnderCapitalG wrote:"Subscribers" is wholly misleading. You do not have 500,000 subscribers but 500,000 accounts. In a game where multiboxing is heavily prioritized, this is an outright lie.
"Seagate's sales numbers are wholly misleading!!! Customers with RAID need more than one harddisk!!!! Lie!!!!"
From now on sales numbers should only include unique customer names, right?
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
13038
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Posted - 2013.02.28 13:00:00 -
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Mhax Arthie wrote:So there are 500K accounts and ~50K players online every day. This means each of us would have around 10 account. Man... this is serious boting :| No, it really doesn't. It just means that most players do not religiously log on every day at peak hours. Vote Malcanis for CSM8. |

Pewty McPew
EVE Corporation 2357451
276
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Posted - 2013.02.28 13:01:00 -
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What exactly constitutes a subscriber? If a pay for 3 accounts am I 3 subscribers? If so what is the number of actual paying players excluding their alt accounts? Is PLEX figured into those numbers? |

Regis Solo
Federal Defense Union Gallente Federation
16
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Posted - 2013.02.28 13:02:00 -
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That's good news, but it would be interesting to know how many people play this game, in other words, beating hearts? |

Mallak Azaria
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2013.02.28 13:03:00 -
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Pewty McPew wrote:What exactly constitutes a subscriber? If a pay for 3 accounts am I 3 subscribers? If so what is the number of actual paying players excluding their alt accounts? Is PLEX figured into those numbers?
You would be a subscriber with 3 active accounts. They count it by active accounts, as does every other company. Accounts paid with PLEX would be figured in to those numbers as they would show as active. Apparently booking your flight & accomodation to Iceland BEFORE you buy the tickets for the convention which is pretty much the only reason you wanted to go there in the first place is popular. |

Mallak Azaria
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2550
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Posted - 2013.02.28 13:07:00 -
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CCP Fozzie wrote:Confirming that every single character in EVE is actually part of my vast alt network.
That can't be right, CCP employees aren't allowed to suicide gank (silly rule). Apparently booking your flight & accomodation to Iceland BEFORE you buy the tickets for the convention which is pretty much the only reason you wanted to go there in the first place is popular. |

Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
3868
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Posted - 2013.02.28 13:09:00 -
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dexington wrote: Guess you never tried rolling on splinters in naxxramas, bindings in molten core or the phoenix in tempest keep... you should try playing an mmo where you can't just plex back what you loose.
Hehe I was there for all of them. Plus the STR + AGI super rare MC ring also called "guild breaker" because the 2 times a year it'd drop, it was claimed by half the guild, each had accumulating 1 trillion DKP to buy it. Let's say that the loot losers would not take it nicely. Auditing | Collateral holding and insurance | Consulting | PLEX for Good Charity
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Jame Jarl Retief
Murientor Tribe Defiant Legacy
1045
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Posted - 2013.02.28 13:30:00 -
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500k subscribers (individual humans), or 500k paid accounts? There's QUITE a bit of difference between the two when it comes to EVE. Not in terms of income CCP gets from subs, but from the standpoint of the size and quality of game's actual population.
For most MMOs, this question is meaningless, as 95%+ of the player base only has one account. Very few would have two. But in in this game, it's not uncommon to have 3-6 accounts, it's kinda important. |

Indahmawar Fazmarai
1168
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Posted - 2013.02.28 13:43:00 -
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Those are really good news! When will CCP start developing WiS now that they're cashing in all that extra money?  EVE is Serious Business: You shall not feel entitled to being allowed to play EVE just because you are paying it. |

Takseen
University of Caille Gallente Federation
303
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Posted - 2013.02.28 13:45:00 -
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Jame Jarl Retief wrote: For most MMOs, this question is meaningless, as 95%+ of the player base only has one account. Very few would have two. But in in this game, it's not uncommon to have 3-6 accounts, it's kinda important.
Does anyone have survey numbers, or will we have to resort to anecdotes and hearsay?
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
13038
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Posted - 2013.02.28 13:50:00 -
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Takseen wrote:Does anyone have survey numbers, or will we have to resort to anecdotes and hearsay? Surveys ask about it, but I have never seen any numbers on it being published. The best guesstimates anyone has been able to offer is ~2 accounts per person, but that was eons ago and good luck not just finding the thread, but finding any of the data that is still relevant today.
And anyway, it doesn't make much difference. They've always counted accounts, with PCUs as a secondary measure of activity. Both are up. You'd have to perform some pretty impressive mental gymnastics to turn it into something bad. 
Vote Malcanis for CSM8. |

Sergeant Acht Scultz
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
626
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Posted - 2013.02.28 13:51:00 -
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Jame Jarl Retief wrote:500k subscribers (individual humans), or 500k paid accounts? There's QUITE a bit of difference between the two when it comes to EVE. Not in terms of income CCP gets from subs, but from the standpoint of the size and quality of game's actual population.
Not uncommon to to have in between 10 and 100 accounts, should we say.
Indeed, while the top 500K number is a good number, and props for this, I'd be interested to know the % of each type of player from said number.
% of single account, double, 1 to 5, 5 to 10, 10 to 30, 30 to 70 and above. This would be interesting to know. *removed inappropriate ASCII art signature* - CCP Eterne |

illirdor
Future Corps Sleeper Social Club
44
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Posted - 2013.02.28 13:52:00 -
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Herp derp its says 500 k subs wich means 500 k subscriptions how hard is it to understand that.... and yea if you have 3 accounts then you count for 3 subscriptions.... class dimissed tomorrow we talk about breathing
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CCP Fozzie
C C P C C P Alliance
4300

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Posted - 2013.02.28 13:54:00 -
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Mallak Azaria wrote:CCP Fozzie wrote:Confirming that every single character in EVE is actually part of my vast alt network. That can't be right, CCP employees aren't allowed to suicide gank (silly rule).
I'm only suicide ganking my own characters so it's all good. Game Designer | Team Five-0 https://twitter.com/CCP_Fozzie |
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Sergeant Acht Scultz
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
626
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Posted - 2013.02.28 13:59:00 -
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Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:dexington wrote: Guess you never tried rolling on splinters in naxxramas, bindings in molten core or the phoenix in tempest keep... you should try playing an mmo where you can't just plex back what you loose.
Hehe I was there for all of them. Plus the STR + AGI super rare MC ring also called "guild breaker" because the 2 times a year it'd drop, it was claimed by half the guild, each had accumulating 1 trillion DKP to buy it. Let's say that the loot losers would not take it nicely.
I was there !!
5th wolrd down 25
2nd Euro 25 and 10
2nd euro HM
Funny moments, awesome people, great game but as everything related to games, some change is good.
*removed inappropriate ASCII art signature* - CCP Eterne |

Varius Xeral
Galactic Trade Syndicate
563
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Posted - 2013.02.28 14:03:00 -
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500k subscriptions, not subscribers is an important factual distinction.
However, it still means 500k subscriptions worth of irl spacebux, which is really the key point. The only difference being that when Eve actually does die, it's gonna die quickly and with finality as they lose multiple subscriptions for each actual human that stops playing. A good incentive to keep that train chugging and numbers climbing. |

Vince Snetterton
254
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Posted - 2013.02.28 14:32:00 -
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It would be incredibly easy for CCP to release the TQ and the Chinese numbers separately, and we could get a real picture of how TQ is doing.
Given how this forum caters to the TQ crowd, I find it interesting that CCP does not provide the TQ only numbers.
The other thing they could do is see how many unique IP's are represented, and if that number is growing or shrinking. It is by no means a perfect counter, of course, given some ISP's provide randomized IP's, but it might be a start to see if the subscriber base is narrowing or broadening.
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baltec1
Bat Country
5453
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Posted - 2013.02.28 14:38:00 -
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EVE is dying. |

luZk
x13 Whores in space
141
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Posted - 2013.02.28 14:41:00 -
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CCP Fozzie wrote:Mallak Azaria wrote:CCP Fozzie wrote:Confirming that every single character in EVE is actually part of my vast alt network. That can't be right, CCP employees aren't allowed to suicide gank (silly rule). I'm only suicide ganking my own characters so it's all good.
Please let me know if you need some help with that.
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"statistics show that only ~50% of the players run dx11-ready systems" --áCCP Mankiller |

Karig'Ano Keikira
State War Academy Caldari State
20
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Posted - 2013.02.28 14:48:00 -
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I wonder about statistics such as avg # of alts, median # of alts and total # of alts, would be nice to see :) |

Liafcipe9000
Smeghead Empire
235
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Posted - 2013.02.28 14:49:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:EVE is dying. we must get the most from it before it shuts down for the last time. |

Captain Tardbar
NEWB ALERT
178
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Posted - 2013.02.28 15:05:00 -
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EnderCapitalG wrote:"Subscribers" is wholly misleading. You do not have 500,000 subscribers but 500,000 accounts. In a game where multiboxing is heavily prioritized, this is an outright lie.
It pays the bills or it gets the hose again. "Entitlement" is a euphemism for "I hate the way you play and it makes me cry like a baby". If you fantasize about being immoral it means you enjoy being immoral deep down. |

Vladkar
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
3
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Posted - 2013.02.28 15:17:00 -
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WOOOOOT!!!!!!
GG CCP!!!!! 07 |

Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
7905
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Posted - 2013.02.28 15:26:00 -
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CCP Fozzie wrote:Tippia wrote:I wonder what the breakdown between servers and games isGǪ To be clear, the 500k number includes both our TQ and Serenity (Chinese) servers, but only includes subscribing EVE Online accounts, not Dust accounts.
How many of the 500k are TQ? Vote for Malcanis for CSM8 https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=192717&find=unread |

Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
7905
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Posted - 2013.02.28 15:28:00 -
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CCP Fozzie wrote:Mallak Azaria wrote:CCP Fozzie wrote:Confirming that every single character in EVE is actually part of my vast alt network. That can't be right, CCP employees aren't allowed to suicide gank (silly rule). I'm only suicide ganking my own characters so it's all good.
CCP Fozzie: the only true suicide ganker. Vote for Malcanis for CSM8 https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=192717&find=unread |
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