OMG James 315 is an absolute KING of emergent game play. look at all the butthurting people he's ticked off, and this thread didn't even start off as anything to do with minig or the new order etc.

When you can make people cry at the mere MENTION of your name or group (ie "New Order"), you've simply won EVE. Goons needed a whole allaince to tick people off, and james did it with some alts and a few friends. I find that amazing.

1-4 pilots is usually enough to tick off most bears.

It's surprising how _FAST_ a system clears out when 2 or 3 pilots go flashy red...

By the definitions presented in this thread the "industrialist" would hang around and wait to get ganked? yeah right, but if they do the sensible thing because a bunch of red carebears have waltzed into the system then suddenly they become the carebear?

Docking when gankers come into the system is simply a reduction of isk-losses, strangely enough the exact same reason gankers use cheap ships to gank in, the reduction of cost.

By the definitions presented in this thread the "industrialist" would hang around and wait to get ganked?

No. By the definitions presented in this thread, the GÇ£industrialistsGÇ¥ would have a back-up plan that they'd initiate, and would not be ticked off by it.

There's absolutely no need to dock up just because there are gankers in the system.

Tanking for a possible gank is just one way of dealing with the threat but lowers yield.

Fitting for yield increases the risk of losing a ship to gankers but this is mitigated somewhat by warping whenever red names appear in local.

Those are just two ways to deal with the threat of ganking, yet one gets called an "industrialist" and the other "carebear".

Yet I see more threads on these forums from gankers than I do miners whining about having the game changed to suit them.

Tanking for a possible gank is just one way of dealing with the threat but lowers yield.

Fitting for yield increases the risk of losing a ship to gankers but this is mitigated somewhat by warping whenever red names appear in local.

Those are just two ways to deal with the threat of ganking, yet one gets called an "industrialist" and the other "carebear".

No. By the definitions presented in this thread, the GÇ£industrialistsGÇ¥ would have a back-up plan that they'd initiate, and would not be ticked off by it.

There's absolutely no need to dock up just because there are gankers in the system.

The easiest solution to all issues is just mine in nullsec.


Iv always mined in nullsec, have never, ever, lost a single barge! And I have all the Veldspar I want to sell at high prices to super cap builders!

Don't let Malcanis and his null bear entourage see this post. There's still trying to convince us that null industry needs a buff.

Why the fascination with ganking indust... careb... barges and exhumers?


Does it somehow prove you are an awesome PvPer when you can suicide gank a ship that can't shoot back?

I just don't understand why SO many people seem to think that EVE will be horrible if they can't fly around blowing up indt... careb... mining barges and exhumers all day.

Are you really that fail at PvPing against ships that can shoot back?

Explain it to me why EVE will die if you can't get your jollies blowing up ships of people that just want to be left alone.

Do you also salt snails and pull the wings off flies for jollies?

Benny Ohu: Does it somehow prove you are an awesome PvPer when you can suicide gank a ship that can't shoot back?

Cleverbot: Your only 17 that is why. Go back to school infant.

Why the fascination with ganking indust... careb... barges and exhumers?


Does it somehow prove you are an awesome PvPer when you can suicide gank a ship that can't shoot back?

I just don't understand why SO many people seem to think that EVE will be horrible if they can't fly around blowing up indt... careb... mining barges and exhumers all day.

Are you really that fail at PvPing against ships that can shoot back?

Explain it to me why EVE will die if you can't get your jollies blowing up ships of people that just want to be left alone.

Do you also salt snails and pull the wings off flies for jollies?

Don't let Malcanis and his null bear entourage see this post. There's still trying to convince us that null industry needs a buff.

She also follows the third rule of EVE - never be AFK when not docked or behind a POS shield, so her pod warps out before anyone can pop her (much cheaper) implants.

Hey Op, here's that carebar you were talking about.

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Both the carebear and the industrialist ask, Why do you so so badly at PvP that you have to gank exhumers that can't shoot back, just to grow your epeen?

Real PvPers fight other players that are ready and looking for a fight.

Yep. Its like how Somali pirates board defenseless oil tankers, instead of taking on a US destroyer like real men.

How is the OP of this thread not a rant? Why this strawmanning, pile of nothing still even open after 6 pages?


Why this fascination with killing mining ships. Why is EVE going to die if you can't spend your day blowing up mining ships?

You haven't been on the forums much, then. Just have a quick search for the bajillion GÇ£buff hulk/nerf gankingGÇ£ threads we've had.

Don't let Malcanis and his null bear entourage see this post. There's still trying to convince us that null industry needs a buff.

You mine, you sell your minerals to Mfg.
Mfg builds ship, and sells it on the market.
Combatant buys ship and uses it to replace losses incurred in war/lowsec/whatever.

Miner gets blown up, combatant doesn't get his ship.
Simple breaking of the logistics chain.

when high sec mining is more isk/hour than null sec mining, i'd say it does.

Null maybe. High sec? You don't have NEAR enough sec status to blow on suicide ganks to make a dent in the supply chain.