To follow this idea them, what would stop them from using some kind of message pattern ?

If you think about TCP/IP packets, a header describes the message, but it's done in situ and, crucially, its done at the same speed as the packet.

In a quantum entangled system, perhaps you'd send a message specific to your pair that could be recognised in its own state or inverted; You'd then follow with a checksum that proves the polarity of the opposite pair, so if you get 01010101 you know that the other one is in a clockwise state, and 10101010 is anti-clockwise.

Holy ... did we just invent TCP/QP ? (Quantum protocol)

... and Species 8472.



Says you. Do we look like DUST bunnies?



Right., it can't be done.

(Oh and the last pic is of a ship going directly from space into planetary atmosphere. Indy game, cost less to make that what CCP spends on pizza in a year.)

This would work if at the transmitting end you could choose the state of your entangled particle to be 1 or 0, but the problem is you can't do that. When an entangled state is created the spin of the particle is random, which means the other member of the entangled pair also has random spin -- so no fancy checksumming or parity system will work. The only decision you get to make is when to measure the state (and whether or not you measured it is not something the other person can determine without first sending their results for comparison).

Here's a math analogy: Think of two people sitting in different galaxies, both with random number generators with the same seed. One of the two generators has a random pattern ("the message") XORed with its output. Both people can both generate random numbers whenever they want, but can't examine the state of the generator or otherwise communicate. Is it possible for one of the two people to determine the message? Clearly it's not possible unless you can compare the output of the two generators -- which means sending the output of one of them slower than light, and this defeats the whole purpose of your messaging system.

Does anyone else find it extremely odd that this game uses laws of physics...

You're right -- I should be more specific (I'm a massive pedant too!). Clearly QUANTUM information is transferred between the pair, but crucially CAUSAL classical information is never transferred faster than the speed of light.

The reason for this: Measure one particle's state and you gain some information, but until you know what the state of the other particle was measured to be your information is useless. The only way to find out what the state of the other particle was is to have the information about its state transmitted classically.. slower than light.

The tl;dr is as before, entanglement can't be used to send useful (causal) information faster than the speed of light (as far as our current understand goes).

nah mate

it was newton came up with relativity

He is a goon we know they aren't very intelligent.

I should also be able to train skills faster than other people by constantly warping from one system to another (or rather, faster from the perspective of someone who is stationary).

Pretty sure any qualified scientist knows that everything is held together by God.

Right., it can't be done.

(Oh and the last pic is of a ship going directly from space into planetary atmosphere. Indy game, cost less to make that what CCP spends on pizza in a year.)

Surely one of the biggest atrocities against relativistic physics in this game is the instant communication.

I can be in a station 10AU (80 light minutes) from an asteroid belt and get instant intel from the belt that there's three untanked Hulks there from a scout and assemble a fleet to obliterate them well before the message should have even travelled 1AU.

Weapons ranges are 250km at most usually much less including light speed lasers.
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So no, weapon ranges are not 250km at most, TARGETING ranges caps out at 249km.

Just a guess here.... but do 50,000 plus people play Evochron Mercenary at the same time on ONE SERVER?

I believe the record number of people in one 200km chunk of space is around 2000, actually.

EvE is a series of interconnected instances. A very impressive method, mind you, but it's still very, very instanced.

"Nothing is particularly hard if you divide it into small jobs" - Henry Ford

wait you're agreeing with a troll reply and you think newton came up with relativity

'lol'

He was a clever dude and he did

Does anyone else find it extremely odd that this game uses laws of physics that are over 100 years old? There was this guy called Einstein, devs, not sure if you've heard of him? His work in physics was kind of a big deal, and any game that involves faster-than-light travel should take into account the causal paradoxes that would result from such technological possibilities; I should also be able to train skills faster than other people by constantly warping from one system to another (or rather, faster from the perspective of someone who is stationary).

Anyways, I just wanted to throw that out there. This really is a big issue to me; it would be like if Call of Duty had no gravity because "welp, too hard to model" and everyone just sort of floated around. You can't ignore the fundamental nature of reality and expect to present your game as internally consistent...

I know what you're getting at and all but that isn't instancing. EVE doesn't have instancing the way other MMOs do, not even close.

It's still lame. I want to equip cruise missiles with warp drives and shoot them across the system.

Inter-Planetary Ballistic Missiles. Someone links a target lock and you fire from anywhere in the system.
Inter-System Ballistic Missiles with Jump Drives, they don't even need a launcher, the Size of an Armageddon.

Terribly unbalanced though...

Wait what?

Also space is a liquid.

It's true, I read that Newtonian Relativity can be summed up in the pithy statement: "The laws of physics (mechanics) are the same for any observer moving at constant speed."

Quite profound :)

Does anyone else find it extremely odd that this game uses laws of physics that are over 100 years old?

Perhaps by "over 100" you actually mean "over 400".