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Radamant Nemess
Caribbean Coke Enterprises
10
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Posted - 2013.03.15 09:35:00 -
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Impressive. Most impressive. EVE has taught you well. You have controlled your fear. Now, release your anger. Only your hatred can destroy me.. i can fail at any speed you like |
Dave Stark
1996
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Posted - 2013.03.15 10:15:00 -
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i was evil before i found eve.
then i started mining.
i don't think i'm very good at this whole internet spaceships thing... Want miners to move from high sec to null sec? Then give them a reason to join player corps, and stop null sec grav sites being worth less isk/hour than high sec asteroid belts. Really isn't difficult. |
Debora Tsung
The Investment Bankers Guild
69
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Posted - 2013.03.15 10:26:00 -
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Silvara Nocturn wrote:I can never get myself to press down on the throttle when the deer is caught in my headlights. Eve does not turn you evil, it shows you what you are capable off.
My god, I just realised I'm a mindless drone... o_O There's nothing a million chinese guys can't do cheaper. |
Jonah Gravenstein
Khalkotauroi Defence Labs
6349
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Posted - 2013.03.15 10:39:00 -
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Eve does not make you evil, it merely attenuates the voices in your head, that have been imposed by societal norms, that tell you not to be evil.
Eve in a nutshell, it's you vs the universe, and every machiavellian space bastard in it. |
March rabbit
No Name No Pain
588
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Posted - 2013.03.15 10:45:00 -
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Savnire Jacitu wrote:My name Savnire Jacitu, I am Evil and proud of it. welcome to world of NPC: creatures with predefined behaviour (determined by the game you are playing at the moment).
Personally me is above of game mechanic and i don't change myself just because game forces me. Something to be proud of i guess
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Ravnik
Choke-Hold
5331
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Posted - 2013.03.15 10:47:00 -
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The weak minded are easily corruptible....
The light that burns twice as bright burns half as long - and you have burned so very, very brightly.......... |
StoneCold
House of Sparrows
86
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Posted - 2013.03.15 10:48:00 -
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Eve doens-¦t make you evil. It-¦s just a huge sandbox (wow, who would have thought of that?) where you can PLAY A GAME in a way you never did before.
I-¦m rather irritated of the statement that a videogame is able to alter your morales (as player, not as player character).
If a game realy affects in in RL you probably should take a break and visit a doc (and that-¦s not a troll or a flame). Disclaimer: All depicted violent acts relate only (and exclusively) on ingame events. I support Psychotic Monk for CSM8 |
Keno Skir
Vectis Covert Solutions
403
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Posted - 2013.03.15 10:58:00 -
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Savnire Jacitu wrote:I even start taking candy from babies. And you know what? It is ******* freeing as hell.
I suspect people used to make you feel small in real life.
If you have any further thoughts on something i've posted, or want to ask an unrelated question feel free to contact me by EvE Mail or by private conversation if 'm online. BUDDY TRIALS AVAILABLE - 21days plus big ISK bonus and starting assistance |
Jayson Kassis
Carbon Industries
32
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Posted - 2013.03.15 11:07:00 -
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Being mean and selfish is easy. Being kind and unselfish is difficult. |
Marcus Gord
Re-Awakened Technologies Inc
1915
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Posted - 2013.03.15 11:10:00 -
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Silvara Nocturn wrote:I can never get myself to press down on the throttle when the deer is caught in my headlights. Eve does not turn you evil, it shows you what you are capable off.
When you have no restrictions, it's amazing what some people can do. You can't take the sky from me |
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Keno Skir
Vectis Covert Solutions
405
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Posted - 2013.03.15 11:34:00 -
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Jayson Kassis wrote:Being mean and selfish is easy. Being kind and unselfish is difficult.
Absolutely bang on bro.
Games give us the ability to live a different persona for a short time. But this persona is a window to our real one always. If you play a long running game and act like a douche because you can, chances are you would do that in real life if the bullies from school wouldn't wedgie you half way up your back for it. If you have any further thoughts on something i've posted, or want to ask an unrelated question feel free to contact me by EvE Mail or by private conversation if 'm online. BUDDY TRIALS AVAILABLE - 21days plus big ISK bonus and starting assistance |
Jori McKie
Friends Of Harassment
62
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Posted - 2013.03.15 11:41:00 -
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Mara Rinn wrote:I got banned from WoW forums for a post that by EVE standards was very helpful and informative.
Does that make me evil or good?
What the hell, that made me actually laugh....
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Frying Doom
1962
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Posted - 2013.03.15 11:44:00 -
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Yes I too was a happy, friendly guy turned evil by this game...
Oh sorry I was thinking of someone else.... We all thought CSM 6 was a war crime with it's massive Null Presence CSM7 topped it by selling out our Council to CCP, don't let it happen again. Vote or next time Incarna is your fault. Stupid Signature Broke
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Whitehound
1210
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Posted - 2013.03.15 11:47:00 -
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Jori McKie wrote:Mara Rinn wrote:I got banned from WoW forums for a post that by EVE standards was very helpful and informative.
Does that make me evil or good?
What the hell, that made me actually laugh.... I had a similar experience on the Skyrim forums, where I received a temp ban for "causing arguments". I wish the signs for when one should leave a place were always this clear. Loss is meaningful. Therefore is the loss of meaning likewise meaningful. It is the source of all trolling. |
Mhax Arthie
Pagan INC
46
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Posted - 2013.03.15 12:30:00 -
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Funny, In WoW I was an absolute azhole and I got even banned for doing abusive stuff against other players. In EVE where CCP is educating you in being a total scumbag... I just can't do anything bad, I actually help people and I feel very bad if I scam someone. So in my case, as hilarious it sounds, EVE made me a good person. Maybe I need some medical help or get back to WoW :S |
Ana Vyr
Vyral Technologies
369
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Posted - 2013.03.15 12:32:00 -
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You already were evil.
EvE just brought it out. Strong the dark side is, quicker, more seductive. |
Shadow Lord77
Shadow Industries I
171
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Posted - 2013.03.15 12:44:00 -
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I love you. You love me. We're a happy family. :D |
KuroVolt
The Legion of Spoon Curatores Veritatis Alliance
37
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Posted - 2013.03.15 12:47:00 -
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Marcus Gord wrote:Silvara Nocturn wrote:I can never get myself to press down on the throttle when the deer is caught in my headlights. Eve does not turn you evil, it shows you what you are capable off. When you have no restrictions, it's amazing what some people can do.
Real power is not to do. Real power is knowing what you can do and still deciding not to do it. |
Altessa Post
Midnight special super sexy
32
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Posted - 2013.03.15 15:28:00 -
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EVE reminded me about cultural differences. It is a big planet and we are not all the same. We do not necessarily share the same set of values. You have to be aware of this and you are not disappointed.
On the internet, you can be whatever you want to be. It is amazing that so many people chose to be stupid. |
Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
8166
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Posted - 2013.03.15 15:39:00 -
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Mhax Arthie wrote:Funny, In WoW I was an absolute azhole and I got even banned for doing abusive stuff against other players. In EVE where CCP is educating you in being a total scumbag... I just can't do anything bad, I actually help people and I feel very bad if I scam someone. So in my case, as hilarious it sounds, EVE made me a good person. Maybe I need some medical help or get back to WoW :S
Sounds like a little freedom was the therapy you needed.
What virtue is there in forced goodness? Vote for Malcanis for CSM8 https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=192717&find=unread |
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baltec1
Bat Country
5587
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Posted - 2013.03.15 15:40:00 -
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I got banned from STO for role playing a goon cyno alt from EVE looking for hotdrop targets. |
silens vesica
Corsair Cartel
1020
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Posted - 2013.03.15 15:41:00 -
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Malcanis wrote:Mhax Arthie wrote:Funny, In WoW I was an absolute azhole and I got even banned for doing abusive stuff against other players. In EVE where CCP is educating you in being a total scumbag... I just can't do anything bad, I actually help people and I feel very bad if I scam someone. So in my case, as hilarious it sounds, EVE made me a good person. Maybe I need some medical help or get back to WoW :S Sounds like a little freedom was the therapy you needed. What virtue is there in forced goodness? Indeed. Only through freedom of choice can we embrace that which is true - Be it good or evil. Tell someone you love them today, because life is short. But scream it at them in Esperanto, because life is also terrifying and confusing.
Malcanis for CSM8 |
Nuela
Beacon Light Corporation Beacon Light Alliance
148
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Posted - 2013.03.15 15:54:00 -
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KuroVolt wrote:Ive been playing this game for about 6 years now and it hasnt affected my morals one bit.
Maybe you were *evil* all along, or maybe only the weak fall to the dark lures of the game.
All in all, Heathen pirate scum, Amarr Victor etc..etc..etc...
Weirdly enough I thought I would be evil scum in this game when I started.
However, I'm pretty 'good' from a D&D perspective...well maybe not Good per se but Neutral with good tendnecies.
Not sure why. I think it's because it is 'cool' and 'popular' to be 'evil' in this game. That turns me off. I like to take the path lesser traveled.
Or Kuro has a point :D
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Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
3747
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Posted - 2013.03.15 16:09:00 -
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Quote:Games give us the ability to live a different persona for a short time. But this persona is a window to our real one always. If you play a long running game and act like a douche because you can, chances are you would do that in real life if the bullies from school wouldn't wedgie you half way up your back for it.
What a load of rubbish.
OP, there is absolutely nothing wrong with playing a bad guy in a game if you enjoy it and are comfortable with it. It is not, and has never been, and measure of your moral fortitude.
RPG's by design allow a person to portray character traits other than their norm, if they wish. It's rather one of the main points of the game.
Anyone who feels that a players in game actions can only reflect who they "really" are is having serious difficulty separating realtiy and fiction. To carve a successful niche for yourself in EVE you need to be able to out sell, out produce, out fight,-á out run, or out wit your competitors. If you can do none of the above, your only option is to complain on the forums that somehow you are at a disadvantage using the exact same tool set-áas the rest of the player base. |
Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
8166
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Posted - 2013.03.15 16:14:00 -
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Ranger 1 wrote:Quote:Games give us the ability to live a different persona for a short time. But this persona is a window to our real one always. If you play a long running game and act like a douche because you can, chances are you would do that in real life if the bullies from school wouldn't wedgie you half way up your back for it. What a load of rubbish. OP, there is absolutely nothing wrong with playing a bad guy in a game if you enjoy it and are comfortable with it. It is not, and has never been, and measure of your moral fortitude. RPG's by design allow a person to portray character traits other than their norm, if they wish. It's rather one of the main points of the game. Anyone who feels that a players in game actions can only reflect who they "really" are is having serious difficulty separating realtiy and fiction.
Anthony Hopkins is a murderous psychotic cannibal because he pretended to be Hannibal Lecter c/d? Vote for Malcanis for CSM8 https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=192717&find=unread |
Winchester Steele
93
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Posted - 2013.03.15 16:20:00 -
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Keno Skir wrote:Jayson Kassis wrote:Being mean and selfish is easy. Being kind and unselfish is difficult. Absolutely bang on bro. Games give us the ability to live a different persona for a short time. But this persona is a window to our real one always. If you play a long running game and act like a douche because you can, chances are you would do that in real life if the bullies from school wouldn't wedgie you half way up your back for it.
Wow. Sorry, but you couldn't possibly be more wrong here. It's a game. I play to win using the ruleset at hand. AWOXing, scamming, ganking are all legitimate tactics to reach my goals, and my use of those "underhanded" tactics tells you absolutely nothing about me in RL. To imply otherwise clearly demonstrates your own inability to separate reality from fiction.
Oh gee, Stephen King is always writing about murderers and psychotic people. He MUST be a psychotic murderer amirite?
Honestly, this type of self-righteous drivel is baffling to me. It's just a video game "bro", there is no necessary correlation between how people play and how they behave in RL. You can toss out whatever ad hominem arguments you want to, it doesnt change the fact that most people don't take their space pixels as seriously as you obviously do.
You must be a real joy to play Monopoly with though. "How dare you build that hotel on Boardwalk?!?! Clearly you are a heartless capitalist monster bent on the eradication of the poor and the weak!"
Hi-Sec needs a CSM rep with Courage, Dignity and Conviction. In these dark and trying times we need a man of action to represent our interests and protect the sanctity of our sandbox. That man is James 315 and his time is now. 315 for CSM 8! |
silens vesica
Corsair Cartel
1020
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Posted - 2013.03.15 16:30:00 -
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Jayson Kassis wrote:Being mean and selfish is easy. Being kind and unselfish is difficult. Not so.
We are whatever we practice being. When we practice 'kind and unselfish,' it becomes a habit, just like any other.
Tell someone you love them today, because life is short. But scream it at them in Esperanto, because life is also terrifying and confusing.
Malcanis for CSM8 |
Radamant Nemess
Caribbean Coke Enterprises
10
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Posted - 2013.03.15 16:40:00 -
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this thread is going places...
also, philosophy is strong in you these days... i can fail at any speed you like |
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
2701
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Posted - 2013.03.15 16:42:00 -
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EvE didnt turn me evil, it just let my natural state shine through. Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings? |
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
3748
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Posted - 2013.03.15 16:43:00 -
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Malcanis wrote:Ranger 1 wrote:Quote:Games give us the ability to live a different persona for a short time. But this persona is a window to our real one always. If you play a long running game and act like a douche because you can, chances are you would do that in real life if the bullies from school wouldn't wedgie you half way up your back for it. What a load of rubbish. OP, there is absolutely nothing wrong with playing a bad guy in a game if you enjoy it and are comfortable with it. It is not, and has never been, and measure of your moral fortitude. RPG's by design allow a person to portray character traits other than their norm, if they wish. It's rather one of the main points of the game. Anyone who feels that a players in game actions can only reflect who they "really" are is having serious difficulty separating realtiy and fiction. Anthony Hopkins is a murderous psychotic cannibal because he pretended to be Hannibal Lecter c/d? Well okay, you found ONE example of type casting...
To carve a successful niche for yourself in EVE you need to be able to out sell, out produce, out fight,-á out run, or out wit your competitors. If you can do none of the above, your only option is to complain on the forums that somehow you are at a disadvantage using the exact same tool set-áas the rest of the player base. |
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