Just an observation here. But throughout this thread you don't seem to have taken on board the many reasons people have given to you for your ships being killed. You seem to be focused upon picking out a small sub section with psychological problems and have tarred the whole of the eve player base with this label.

Calling every player who enjoys hunting and blowing up other ships a sociopath is a foolish generalisation at best.

Also you were lurking ominously at a gate in a noob ship, which indicates that you are a spy alt which could have compromised the other guys gate camp.

Not true. The reason I have dismissed many (albeit well-intentioned) reasons people have given is that they don't fit the situation I already described. Basically, people aren't reading my post carefully. For instance, I continue to hear explanations involving 'gate camps,' but I have already said that these aren't gate camps I am encountering. I continue to hear explanations involving loot that could be dropped, but (I think) I already said that they don't even sift through the loot - I know this because I come right back again after being killed only to find my cargo that was dropped unopened.

But everytime I have a tengu/legion/tornado or whatever instapop me in my merlin, they get a nice terrible standings with me :) When the time comes and I have the appropriate tools to get back at them, they will regret it :)

OP, you need to keep in mind that many of the players in this game are kiting on their parent's credit cards, and less than 15 years old. Just change your expectations and everything will be fine.

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RELEVANT POINT - Something that serves a strategic, tactical, or economic gaming purpose (procurement of resources; acquiring a strategic, tactical, or economic advantage; denial of such things to a rival; etc). Examples: 1) Piracy where you actually take somebody's stuff. 2) Killing mining (or other) ships in a system claimed by a corporation you work for (i.e. defending assets). 3) Hell, even honing your skills by taking on a ship that might offer some sort of challenge to you.

You have already skewed the discussion by claiming that is the only definition of a relevant point.

miners get killed for fun in this game. you are in grave danger if you warp to a belt in low sec as it is very easy to scan you down in with d-scan. no probes needed. particularly don't sit at the warp in beacon.

NO sir.

I've seen people put 1 billion isk blueprints in noob ships. Not shooting every single ship, be it shuttle, noobship or what ever is dumb. By not shooting them you could've lost billions of profit. It costs you nothing to check it, it's like opening treasure chests, it doesn't matter if 99% are empty if even one in 100 has something good it's worth the effort to at least check.

OP, you need to keep in mind that many of the players in this game are kiting on their parent's credit cards, and less than 15 years old. Just change your expectations and everything will be fine.

But yes, it is quiet funny how some pilots feel very oh so proud of themselves when they take out a tech 1 fitted frigate, whose pilot is no more then 3 months old.

the loss of the half-a-mil venture I lost right before it, nor the loss of another venture before that one, nor... (blah blah).

...anytime - I repeat anytime - I venture into a system with less than 0.5 security, I get killed ...

It always occurs in the exact same fashion, with the exact same hallmarks:

But nowadays, I simply venture to these places once in a while to count down how long it takes to be killed in the exact same fashion as mentioned above (usually less than 2 minutes).

I won't bother re-iterating the WHY of why you got blown up since you seem overly dismissive of the replies of experienced players.



All these quotes show you are not a very quick learner. If you put yourself in a bad situation and don't learn from it, how can you blame anyone but yourself if the exact same thing happens again? There are several ships you could have trained into by now which would allow you to explore the entirety of the map, including wormholes, by this time into your subscription.

Overall, you seem to expect immunity just because you want to go about your own business. Just let it be known that you need to learn how to deal with other players in order to do so. What gives you the right to expect complete freedom just because you are travelling in a woefully under-equipped ship?

I agree that there is no sport to killing noobships, but plenty of people here have pointed out just why they get blown up. Primarily, you are making yourself an easy target.

Learn to use the tools available to you and adapt to the situation

1. Learn to use the map to plan routes and find potential gatecamps

2. Learn how to use the d-scanner to see nearby or incoming ships within system and to scan gates before you warp onto them.

3. While plenty of other ships are also perfectly safe, covert-ops frigates are great for exploration.

4. If you don't want to be a victim, don't play like one.

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There are many pilots around who are out there just to get that kill, whatever it may be. What their reasons are for wanting to kill me whatever I may be flying don't amount to anything. The fact that they will kill me if they can does. This holds true in lowsec, nullsec, even highsec.

If you need a reason for them to kill you, just pick one of many that have already been listed. The main reason is because killing other players in ships is what they do...............understand that and learn to be prepared for it, or..........be the sacrificial lamb and enjoy it.

Dear OP,

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Easy prey will always get killed first.
It's natural. Except when babies are involved.


Fly manually o/

RELEVANT POINT - Something that serves a strategic, tactical, or economic gaming purpose (procurement of resources; acquiring a strategic, tactical, or economic advantage; denial of such things to a rival; etc). Examples: 1) Piracy where you actually take somebody's stuff. 2) Killing mining (or other) ships in a system claimed by a corporation you work for (i.e. defending assets). 3) Hell, even honing your skills by taking on a ship that might offer some sort of challenge to you. 4) for the lulz