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Winterblink
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Posted - 2005.09.01 16:35:00 -
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 Originally by: Danton Marcellus
What is this gallon?
It's a totally archaic form of measurement based on an arbitrarily chosen (read: pulled out of ass) volume of liquid.
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voodoo
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Posted - 2005.09.01 16:35:00 -
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Originally by: Amataras
Originally by: voodoo
Originally by: Deja Thoris
1) Public transport
2) Walk
3) Bicycle
4) Car share
5) Smaller car
Its still a lot cheaper than many other countries. Frankly I hope it gets more expensive in the USA. Why so many people need a 4L SUV to drive one person half a mile is beyond me.
Hopefully it makes people evaluate their driving habits.
Im sorry Im a hot head but would you be so kind as to shut your stinkin pie hole?
I love my "SUV", in fact If my "SUV" happened to make it through the storm and I lived there it would be a much better vehical to have vs your lil shiat box jap wrap. I woulda saved your life just to pound on you some once we were to safty ofc. Now get a grip on the situation and relize theres more to real life then just your liberal ways!
Quick, stop those liberal conspirators before they cause another storm in order to drive up oil prices!
Finally a person with some sense -)
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Andrue
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Posted - 2005.09.01 16:36:00 -
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Originally by: Danton Marcellus
What is this gallon?
It's a unit of measurement for fluids. Legally acceptable in..um..two countries one of which is a third-world (or not far off) African state. Every other country capable of expressing an opinion said it was no longer legal and most won't even import goods labelled using it.
Oh and the legal equivalent of 'one gallon' depends on where you live since there is some disagreement about how much fluid you get in a gallon.
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(Battle hardened miner)
[Brackley, UK]
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Andrue
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Posted - 2005.09.01 16:38:00 -
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Originally by: Rafein
The oil from the Wildlife reserve will do nothing. The problem isn't oil right now, it's refined oil.
Yup. The oil in the ground may or may not run out in our lifetimes but what is certain is that refining and distribution of the useable fuel product will be unable to keep up with demand in the next few decades.
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(Battle hardened miner)
[Brackley, UK]
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Sybylle
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Posted - 2005.09.01 16:40:00 -
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Rules to make money :
1-Say a ressource is going to deeplete soon
2-Make sure you have giant amounts of this ressource
3-Stock it and buy what you need
4-Do nothing to use alternative ressources
5-Do nothing to reduce usage (best, increase usage of this ressource)
6-Gradually increase the price of said ressource
Negotiate to maintain almost a monopole on this ressource.
Way to fight mopole :
1-Use alternative ressources
2-Team up to share ressource cost between teamates
3-Don't use said ressource (boycott)
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(> <)=Oveur (proof)
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Demarcus
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Posted - 2005.09.01 16:42:00 -
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Originally by: Rafein
The oil from the Wildlife reserve will do nothing. The problem isn't oil right now, it's refined oil.
Many refineries have been knocked off line, so the oil is not getting processed.
BS. This was a problem 2 months ago. The storm only made a prior existing condition worse.
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Pitt
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Posted - 2005.09.01 16:43:00 -
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There are many differences between the US and Europe. I have visited Europe many times and I never had to get in a car to get anywhere. In the US public transportation is a joke at best, and try finding affordable housing in any metropolitan area in this country. We can't afford to live close to where we work.
So guess what that means, we have to drive alot. As for the SUV's whatever, not all American's are driving urban assault vehicles.
Just for some additional info, crossing some states here in the US is the equivilant of crossing entire country's in Europe, some states are larger than multiple county's there. So the boohoo statments from all the Euro's, plz stop them and think for a few minutes about the subject you are responding to.
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Caeden Nicomachean
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Posted - 2005.09.01 16:46:00 -
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Originally by: Demarcus
Originally by: Rafein
The oil from the Wildlife reserve will do nothing. The problem isn't oil right now, it's refined oil.
Many refineries have been knocked off line, so the oil is not getting processed.
BS. This was a problem 2 months ago. The storm only made a prior existing condition worse.
Search the net for some graphs of the yields we will get out of drilling as compared to your average well in the middle east. We are talking 10-1 concentrations here. Its why folks have been struggling to preserve the stuff, it won't put even a small dent in the overall demand. OPEC will still have us by the short ones until we get off the juice.
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Wookie
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Posted - 2005.09.01 16:46:00 -
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then buy a diesel car that does 80+ mpg.
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Wrayeth
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Posted - 2005.09.01 16:48:00 -
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Originally by: Caeden Nicomachean
Get yourself to campus very early, leave very late. Spend the interim hours in the libary. If you have idle time, read Thoreau and Emerson in the (likely) gorgeous setting that is a college campus :) Work in the evenings if you have to make ends meet.
*shrug*
Heh... Community college - that means our library sucks. I truly wish it didn't. As for working in the evenings, I'm one of those weird people who has trouble holding down a job. I can manage it (been supporting myself for the last four years), but I wouldn't be able to work and go to college at the same time. I'd screw up one, the other, or both and end up far worse than I started out. Massive debt from college loans ftw. :P
Not everyone can be an overachiever (or even be what's considered "normal"). Unfortunately, those of us who are somewhat challenged in our ability to deal with multiple stresses and multitasking usually get ridiculed for our shortcomings by those who refuse to attempt to understand their fellow human being. (Probably why I enjoy ganking people in EVE - payback's a *****.)
Anyway, the point I'm trying to make is that different people have different capabilities and life situations. A change to gasoline prices that would be normal in Europe is, in the U.S., enough to push those who are barely making ends meet beyond their ability to put food on the table and keep a roof over their heads - especially if their place of employment isn't conveniently near their home.
Yes, a lot of people in the U.S. are well-off compared to other countries, but we have our poor, too. Hell, I can barely afford the monthly subscription on EVE, and that was true even when I was working full time and not going to school - and I'm by no means alone in this regard. This is pretty much the only entertainment I can afford - I can't go out and catch a movie in the theater, can't rent movies from the local Blockbuster Video, can't buy new video games (like Battlefield 2, dammit...), etc.
-Wrayeth
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Caeden Nicomachean
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Posted - 2005.09.01 16:49:00 -
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Originally by: Pitt
There are many differences between the US and Europe. I have visited Europe many times and I never had to get in a car to get anywhere. In the US public transportation is a joke at best, and try finding affordable housing in any metropolitan area in this country. We can't afford to live close to where we work.
So guess what that means, we have to drive alot. As for the SUV's whatever, not all American's are driving urban assault vehicles.
Just for some additional info, crossing some states here in the US is the equivilant of crossing entire country's in Europe, some states are larger than multiple county's there. So the boohoo statments from all the Euro's, plz stop them and think for a few minutes about the subject you are responding to.
Except you leave out a point - that the reason we have less public transportation is because of lobbying from automobile and petroleum corporations. Geographical constraints are a very small part of it.
The next time a rail project comes in front of your closest US city, read the metro section during the deliberations and take a gander at who are the money behind the opposition. In Houston at least, it is almost always the afforementioned parties - and I've been in the mix there enough to vouch for it.
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Branco
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Posted - 2005.09.01 16:52:00 -
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Don't feel bad, I just looked up Google to find that 1 Gallon is around 22 liters.
22 Liters cost me 37 USD. Now... what are you complaining about? Get EVE going again 
And if someone gets me a way of exporting that stuff in bottles I will happily buy them 10 USD a gallon... see how you you can profit? 
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Demarcus
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Posted - 2005.09.01 16:52:00 -
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Originally by: Pitt
There are many differences between the US and Europe. I have visited Europe many times and I never had to get in a car to get anywhere. In the US public transportation is a joke at best, and try finding affordable housing in any metropolitan area in this country. We can't afford to live close to where we work.
So guess what that means, we have to drive alot. As for the SUV's whatever, not all American's are driving urban assault vehicles.
Just for some additional info, crossing some states here in the US is the equivilant of crossing entire country's in Europe, some states are larger than multiple county's there. So the boohoo statments from all the Euro's, plz stop them and think for a few minutes about the subject you are responding to.
They can't understand our way of life without seeing it first hand, and I don't mean a weeks vacation to Disney. Just like they can't understand what it is like in the areas the storm hit. Everything within 6 miles of the coast just simply no longer exists. For the first time in the history of the USA a major metropolitan city has been completely evacuated. If this had hit the UK your whole damn country would be gone.
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Quanteeri
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Posted - 2005.09.01 16:54:00 -
[44]
Originally by: Winterblink
Originally by: Danton Marcellus
What is this gallon?
It's a totally archaic form of measurement based on an arbitrarily chosen (read: pulled out of ass) volume of liquid.
Hey!!! At least we got the "billion" right.
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Flyyn
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Posted - 2005.09.01 16:55:00 -
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First of all if you are paying $6 a gallon. File charges against the owner of that station for price gouging. It is against the law.
At the current time there is only a 2.0% shortage of fuel in the southeast US. By tonight the pipelines will have power back to the pumps and fuel will start flowing again.
Pres Bush is allowing the oil companys to borrow from the nations stock till the oil rigs are put back into service.
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Antic
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Posted - 2005.09.01 16:56:00 -
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iraqis pay with their blood for the low US gasoline prices. Check the rest of the world for a realitycheck on how the oil situation REALLY is for other countries that dosnt use their armed forces to pounce oil producing cuintries into submision.
The main reason isnt really the hurricane Katrina hitting new orleans and wrecking the mexican gulf oil platforms. Its something that has been happening for a long time with oil reserves getting depleted worldwide whilst China and India is having an industrial revolution requiring more and more oil.
So to hear US people cry over spilled milk for their outrageously low oil prices is an insult to the people around the world that gets to pay the real price for keeping the US easy living.
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Wrayeth
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Posted - 2005.09.01 16:56:00 -
[47]
Edited by: Wrayeth on 01/09/2005 16:59:04
Originally by: Branco
Don't feel bad, I just looked up Google to find that 1 Gallon is around 22 liters.
22 Liters cost me 37 USD. Now... what are you complaining about? Get EVE going again
And if someone gets me a way of exporting that stuff in bottles I will happily buy them 10 USD a gallon... see how you you can profit?
LMAO...
A gallon is 3.78 liters. I'm looking at a gallon of milk right now, and it has metric conversion clearly labeled right next to the gallon in parentheses.
EDIT: For the price of one gallon of gas, I could buy a big-ass hamburger and a large soft drink at most local fast-food restaraunts (McDonald's, Burger King, etc.). For the price of a tank of gas, I could eat for two weeks on food that I buy at the grocery store and prepare, myself.
-Wrayeth
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Demarcus
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Posted - 2005.09.01 16:57:00 -
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Originally by: Flyyn
First of all if you are paying $6 a gallon. File charges against the owner of that station for price gouging. It is against the law.
At the current time there is only a 2.0% shortage of fuel in the southeast US. By tonight the pipelines will have power back to the pumps and fuel will start flowing again.
Pres Bush is allowing the oil companys to borrow from the nations stock till the oil rigs are put back into service.
Did you see the pic or that oil rig that floated ashore and ended up on top of the interstate? There are about a dozen more that floated away that haven't been located yet.
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Caeden Nicomachean
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Posted - 2005.09.01 17:00:00 -
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Quote:
They can't understand our way of life without seeing it first hand, and I don't mean a weeks vacation to Disney. Just like they can't understand what it is like in the areas the storm hit. Everything within 6 miles of the coast just simply no longer exists. For the first time in the history of the USA a major metropolitan city has been completely evacuated. If this had hit the UK your whole damn country would be gone.
Hrm. Whats with the bringing the storm into it? And you understand that the landmass of the UK is quite a lot larger than the basin affected by the storm?
Just saying. I'm in Houston. My wife is teaching the refugee kiddos that have made it here and houses all around me are filled with relatives who made it here....but this doesn't have much to do with the overall energy problems, only the latest spike.
Be cool if we not get into a US/Euro hatefest, we all are affected by energy prices.
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Branco
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Posted - 2005.09.01 17:01:00 -
[50]
Edited by: Branco on 01/09/2005 17:02:39
Originally by: Wrayeth
A gallon is 3.78 liters. I'm looking at a gallon of milk right now, and it has metric conversion clearly labeled right next to the gallon in parentheses.
Ahh... damn google then, it fooled me 
I was thinking the prices were really different and that something should be wrong either with the math or with the economy but hey...
The price of a gallon is just 7.2 USD here then... makes a lot more sense. 
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Slik
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Posted - 2005.09.01 17:02:00 -
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Litres in a Gallon
Slik (slippery when wet) |
Arcticblue2
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Posted - 2005.09.01 17:03:00 -
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Price for 95 octane gas here in norway is at the moment (it is different from places to places ofcourse) 2 dollar, and some predict by the end of the year it might raise to 3 dollar...
Now I am glad I don't drive a car, I live in a small town where I can walk across the entire town in 15-20 minutes.
And yes ... it sucks if it makes you close your eve account, but it is nessesary with oilprices at 60 dollar... or something like that.
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Kris Longknife
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Posted - 2005.09.01 17:03:00 -
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Originally by: Deja Thoris
1) Public transport
2) Walk
3) Bicycle
4) Car share
5) Smaller car
Its still a lot cheaper than many other countries. Frankly I hope it gets more expensive in the USA. Why so many people need a 4L SUV to drive one person half a mile is beyond me.
Hopefully it makes people evaluate their driving habits.
Ah figures a thread slammer...
Lets see...
Live on a nice size lot in a big house or live in a house that has been made into several apartments. I think I own my own land thank you very much...
Drive some piece of junk or some sturdy American made car...again American.
Live out in the country...or live in a 0.0 section in a city so I can walk to work...farm living for me.
Car share (I assume you mean car pool) See above farmer smith and farmer brown dont have fields by where I work.
We like space around us. Trees, birds,bees and all the nice things Europe has destroyed many years ago.
And I love my 6000lb "Yank Tank" Want to play chicken???
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Psychopath
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Posted - 2005.09.01 17:05:00 -
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I love how Americans believe that because their country is bigger they deserve cheap fuel and the right to produce 25% of world's CO2 emissions.
US fuel prices need to be risen significantly to force the use of fuel efficient/smaller cars and therefore cut consumption and emissions.
Most European cars do 35+ mpg and the average car in US (a pickup) does 15-20 mpg.
A Corp 1 pirate I was meant to be, trim the sails and roam the sea |
Amataras
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Posted - 2005.09.01 17:06:00 -
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Originally by: Kris Longknife
We like space around us. Trees, birds,bees and all the nice things Europe has destroyed many years ago.
Yeah! Just before we started living in the megacities with Judge Dredd!
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Flyyn
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Posted - 2005.09.01 17:06:00 -
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Originally by: Demarcus
Originally by: Flyyn
First of all if you are paying $6 a gallon. File charges against the owner of that station for price gouging. It is against the law.
At the current time there is only a 2.0% shortage of fuel in the southeast US. By tonight the pipelines will have power back to the pumps and fuel will start flowing again.
Pres Bush is allowing the oil companys to borrow from the nations stock till the oil rigs are put back into service.
Did you see the pic or that oil rig that floated ashore and ended up on top of the interstate? There are about a dozen more that floated away that haven't been located yet.
Yeah I seen it some even sank, But let you in on a secret?? The US has more oil then both Iraq and Saudi combined. We just dont use it till we need it.
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Quanteeri
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Posted - 2005.09.01 17:06:00 -
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Originally by: Antic
iraqis pay with their blood for the low US gasoline prices. Check the rest of the world for a realitycheck on how the oil situation REALLY is for other countries that dosnt use their armed forces to pounce oil producing cuintries into submision.
The main reason isnt really the hurricane Katrina hitting new orleans and wrecking the mexican gulf oil platforms. Its something that has been happening for a long time with oil reserves getting depleted worldwide whilst China and India is having an industrial revolution requiring more and more oil.
So to hear US people cry over spilled milk for their outrageously low oil prices is an insult to the people around the world that gets to pay the real price for keeping the US easy living.
Blowing people up and stealing their oil isn't as easy as it looks. Sheesh
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Wrayeth
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Posted - 2005.09.01 17:09:00 -
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Originally by: Antic
iraqis pay with their blood for the low US gasoline prices. Check the rest of the world for a realitycheck on how the oil situation REALLY is for other countries that dosnt use their armed forces to pounce oil producing cuintries into submision.
The main reason isnt really the hurricane Katrina hitting new orleans and wrecking the mexican gulf oil platforms. Its something that has been happening for a long time with oil reserves getting depleted worldwide whilst China and India is having an industrial revolution requiring more and more oil.
So to hear US people cry over spilled milk for their outrageously low oil prices is an insult to the people around the world that gets to pay the real price for keeping the US easy living.
First, the damned reason we went to war wasn't because of oil - if it was, we would've been within the rights of a belligerent according to international conventions on war to KEEP Iraq and its oil for ourselves as the victor.
That said, it really p1sses me off when idiots in other countries think that because I am American I support the war in Iraq. Personally my opinion is this: support our troops, yes; support the reason they're there, no. I fully supported our actions in Afghanistan, but invading Iraq was just stupid and I dislike being blamed for it. I didn't vote for Bush and I don't support many of his policies.
-Wrayeth
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Caeden Nicomachean
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Posted - 2005.09.01 17:10:00 -
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Originally by: Kris Longknife
Ah figures a thread slammer...
Lets see...
Live on a nice size lot in a big house or live in a house that has been made into several apartments. I think I own my own land thank you very much...
Drive some piece of junk or some sturdy American made car...again American.
Live out in the country...or live in a 0.0 section in a city so I can walk to work...farm living for me.
Car share (I assume you mean car pool) See above farmer smith and farmer brown dont have fields by where I work.
We like space around us. Trees, birds,bees and all the nice things Europe has destroyed many years ago.
And I love my 6000lb "Yank Tank" Want to play chicken???
Only half of the US thinks like this. Need to understand that.
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CargoCult
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Posted - 2005.09.01 17:10:00 -
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Originally by: Kris Longknife
Originally by: Deja Thoris
Hopefully it makes people evaluate their driving habits.
Ah figures a thread slammer...
Lets see...
Live on a nice size lot in a big house or live in a house that has been made into several apartments. I think I own my own land thank you very much...
Drive some piece of junk or some sturdy American made car...again American.
Live out in the country...or live in a 0.0 section in a city so I can walk to work...farm living for me.
Car share (I assume you mean car pool) See above farmer smith and farmer brown dont have fields by where I work.
We like space around us. Trees, birds,bees and all the nice things Europe has destroyed many years ago.
And I love my 6000lb "Yank Tank" Want to play chicken???
Query then, you've made your choices surely you just have to live with the result?
if so good, if your still complaning politley - shut up
p.s. thanks for sturdy amiercan cars joke, *****ed me up
All the right letters, just not nescacarily in the right order - morcam and wise
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