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Arronicus
vintas industries Mistakes Were Made.
456
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Posted - 2013.03.28 03:49:00 -
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"If you can fly it now, you'll be able to fly it after."
Sums it up =) |

Roime
Shiva Furnace
2372
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Posted - 2013.03.28 05:22:00 -
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TheTravler wrote:Has anyone looked at the link I posted?
After the patch the ship will require level 5 to FLY.... Not to learn the skill but to FLY the ship. I can't fly it now because I don't have the required skill to fly.
No, you can not fly a freighter now, and you won't be able to fly it later. Now stop posting.
-á- All I really wanted was to build a castle among the stars - |

Adoris Nolen
Sama Guild
4
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Posted - 2013.03.28 05:27:00 -
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The saddest thing about this thread is: The OP will never be able to join a decent corp ever. |

Solstice Project
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
3029
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Posted - 2013.03.28 08:50:00 -
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epic facepalm... |

Dave Stark
2244
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Posted - 2013.03.28 08:56:00 -
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thought we were finished with these type of threads.
guess not. Want miners to move from high sec to null sec? Then give them a reason to join player corps, and stop null sec grav sites being worth less isk/hour than high sec asteroid belts. Really isn't difficult. |

Stray Bullets
Perkone Caldari State
38
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Posted - 2013.03.28 08:59:00 -
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Kinda relate with the OP. Woke up groggy, after getting 3h of sleep and read his post. He made me confused on why he was confused! 
This topic is now about breakfast!  |

Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
8339
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Posted - 2013.03.28 09:41:00 -
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TheTravler wrote:Mark Munoz wrote:The only skill required to fly a freighter is Freighter 1. However to inject the freighter skill now only requires Advance Spaceship 1 as of now. Come Odyssey it will require ASCV.
So when you jump into your freighter the only skill it cares about is if you have Freighters 1 trained. It doesn't care about all the new requirements others need to get to, in order to train Freighters 1. I know the requirements now.... What I'm saying is if I train ASC1 and fly it around tomorrow... Come Odyssey I will need ASCV to fly. Will I be granted ASCV so I can still fly my ship?
You've been told 3 times now.
You need freighter 1 to FLY a Freighter. If you have Freighter 1, you can continue to fly your freighter after the change.
ASC 5 will not be needed to FLY a freighter after the change, only to STATRT THE SKILL of Freighter 1
Since you already have the skill, you will not be affected. It will only be an issue for you if you somehow managed to lose your freighter skill and needed to re-inject it.
PS However ASC improves your freighter's time to warp; I advise training it up anyway. Vote for Malcanis for CSM8: Read about my platform here
Please endorse my candidacy here |

Ammzi
Infinite Covenant Tribal Band
1318
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Posted - 2013.03.28 11:35:00 -
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TheTravler wrote:Has anyone looked at the link I posted?
After the patch the ship will require level 5 to FLY.... Not to learn the skill but to FLY the ship. I can't fly it now because I don't have the required skill to fly.
ARE YOU ******* ******** OR WHAT. READ WHAT THE **** PEOPLE ARE WRITING TO YOU. THE CODE DOESN'T CHECK THE ******* UNDERLYING SKILLS, IT CHECKS THE TOP SKILL, THE FREIGHTER SKILL AND THAT IS IT.
IF THAT ******* SKILL IS IN YOUR HEAD, THEN YOU CAN FLY IT. NOW SHUT THE **** UP.
Jesus christ dude quote CCP Spitfire
"Hello Im Blue,"
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Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
3857
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Posted - 2013.03.28 13:37:00 -
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Ammzi wrote:TheTravler wrote:Has anyone looked at the link I posted?
After the patch the ship will require level 5 to FLY.... Not to learn the skill but to FLY the ship. I can't fly it now because I don't have the required skill to fly. ARE YOU ******* ******** OR WHAT. READ WHAT THE **** PEOPLE ARE WRITING TO YOU. THE CODE DOESN'T CHECK THE ******* UNDERLYING SKILLS, IT CHECKS THE TOP SKILL, THE FREIGHTER SKILL AND THAT IS IT. IF THAT ******* SKILL IS IN YOUR HEAD, THEN YOU CAN FLY IT. NOW SHUT THE **** UP. Jesus christ dude
Well, I for one am completely deaf now too. There is much to be said in favour of modern journalism. By giving us the opinions of the uneducated, it keeps us in touch with the ignorance of the community.-á-á-á-á - Oscar Wilde |

IHaveCandyGetInTheVan69
Wolfsbrigade Lost Obsession
330
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Posted - 2013.03.28 13:51:00 -
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Adoris Nolen wrote:The saddest thing about this thread is: The OP will never be able to join a decent corp ever.
No longer can Eve claim to have a more intelligent player base than other MMOs.
Just kidding, that was never true. |

Tiberious Thessalonia
True Slave Foundations Shaktipat Revelators
1624
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Posted - 2013.03.28 13:52:00 -
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People still yelling at the OP did not read the rest of the thread. |

Fractal Muse
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
242
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Posted - 2013.03.28 13:54:00 -
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Tiberious Thessalonia wrote:People still yelling at the OP did not read the rest of the thread. You mean there were people complaining that the OP wasn't reading the responses who, themselves, didn't read the responses? Oh, the irony....
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De'Veldrin
East India Ore Trade The East India Co.
1222
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Posted - 2013.03.28 13:54:00 -
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This thread was just painful to read, especially since the devs have already explained this, multiple times, in great detail. Malcanis for CSM 8
Eve Online: The full-contact sport for your brain. Twitter --á@DeVeldrin |

Rex Aparte
The Scope Gallente Federation
29
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Posted - 2013.03.28 14:05:00 -
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10/10 would read again. |

Mag's
the united Negative Ten.
14622
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Posted - 2013.03.28 14:56:00 -
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De'Veldrin wrote:This thread was just painful to read, especially since the devs have already explained this, multiple times, in great detail. Indeed.
So, what skills do I need before and after and what do I need to do again? Malcanis for CSM 8. Destination SkillQueue:- It's like assuming the lions will ignore you in the savannah, if you're small, fat and look helpless. |

RubyPorto
SniggWaffe YOUR VOTES DON'T COUNT
3076
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Posted - 2013.03.28 15:09:00 -
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Mag's wrote:De'Veldrin wrote:This thread was just painful to read, especially since the devs have already explained this, multiple times, in great detail. Indeed. So, what skills do I need before and after and what do I need to do again?
Titan V This is EVE - Everybody Versus Everybody.
"the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built and we want to keep that (infact, this is much more representative of the consensus opinion within CCP)." -CCP Solomon |

Velicitia
Arma Artificer
1321
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Posted - 2013.03.28 15:11:00 -
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Mag's wrote:De'Veldrin wrote:This thread was just painful to read, especially since the devs have already explained this, multiple times, in great detail. Indeed. So, what skills do I need before and after and what do I need to do again?
all of them. especially ASC 5.  One of the bitter points of a good bittervet is the realisation that all those SP don't really do much, and that the newbie is having much more fun with what little he has. - Tippia Malcanis for CSM8 |

Ereilian
Over The Horizon
0
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Posted - 2013.03.28 15:21:00 -
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TheTravler wrote:Has anyone looked at the link I posted?
After the patch the ship will require level 5 to FLY.... Not to learn the skill but to FLY the ship. I can't fly it now because I don't have the required skill to fly.
Seriously learn 2 play EVE.
The only skills you need to FLY A SHIP ARE THE TOP LEVEL SKILLS IN EACH TREE. YOU DO NOT NEED THE PREREQUISITE SKILLS TO FLY THE SHIP.
As stated ad nauseum, those remain the same.
What is changing is the required skills to TRAIN those skills, if you ALREADY HAVE THE SKILL INJECTED OR TRAINED IT MAKES NO DIFFERENCE.
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Othran
Route One
463
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Posted - 2013.03.28 15:53:00 -
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RubyPorto wrote:IIRC SP-Saving Medical clones did not always exist.
They didn't exist at all in early 2003 - there was no concept of a medical/jump clone in-game then.
First time I got podded (for older players podded means pod-killed, unlike newer players who think it means your ship died) I lost about a week's training. That was around about June 2003 - so in my first month I lost 25% of the SP I had trained.
Wasn't happy about it at the time but TBH I think that's what has kept me going in Eve over the years - the idea that catastrophic loss is just around the corner if you don't pay attention to stuff, and even if you do then that guarantees nothing.
Getting a bit concerned that the game is getting a bit too warm'n'fuzzy these days right enough.....  |

Montevius Williams
Eclipse Industrial Inc
431
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Posted - 2013.03.28 17:02:00 -
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Here we go again with people over-thinking crap
CCP said, "if you can fly the **** now, you'll be able to fly the **** after the patch"
I don't understand what is so hard about this to understand.
No skill reimbursements required. "The American Government indoctrination system known as public education has been relentlessly churning out socialists for over 20 years". - TravisWB |

RubyPorto
SniggWaffe YOUR VOTES DON'T COUNT
3076
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Posted - 2013.03.28 19:54:00 -
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Othran wrote:RubyPorto wrote:IIRC SP-Saving Medical clones did not always exist. They didn't exist at all in early 2003 - there was no concept of a medical/jump clone in-game then. First time I got podded (for older players podded means pod-killed, unlike newer players who think it means your ship died) I lost about a week's training. That was around about June 2003 - so in my first month I lost 25% of the SP I had trained. Wasn't happy about it at the time but TBH I think that's what has kept me going in Eve over the years - the idea that catastrophic loss is just around the corner if you don't pay attention to stuff, and even if you do then that guarantees nothing. Getting a bit concerned that the game is getting a bit too warm'n'fuzzy these days right enough..... 
I was pretty sure, but then I couldn't find any sources and started second guessing myself... so I hedged... with weasel words. This is EVE - Everybody Versus Everybody.
"the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built and we want to keep that (infact, this is much more representative of the consensus opinion within CCP)." -CCP Solomon |

yopparai
ASTARTES CORP Hashashin Cartel
1615
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Posted - 2013.03.28 20:06:00 -
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TheTravler wrote:Mark Munoz wrote:The only skill required to fly a freighter is Freighter 1. However to inject the freighter skill now only requires Advance Spaceship 1 as of now. Come Odyssey it will require ASCV.
So when you jump into your freighter the only skill it cares about is if you have Freighters 1 trained. It doesn't care about all the new requirements others need to get to, in order to train Freighters 1. I know the requirements now.... What I'm saying is if I train ASC1 and fly it around tomorrow... Come Odyssey I will need ASCV to fly. Will I be granted ASCV so I can still fly my ship?
First train reading comprehension to lvl 4 then re-read the 8-10 post that say yes you will be able to fly your freighter. |

RubyPorto
SniggWaffe YOUR VOTES DON'T COUNT
3076
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Posted - 2013.03.28 20:10:00 -
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yopparai wrote:
First train reading comprehension to lvl 4 then re-read the 8-10 post that say yes you will be able to fly your freighter.
As entertaining as watching everyone demonstrate their hypocrisy is: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2803306#post2803306
TheTravler wrote:ahh, I understand now.... Sorry, was confused as hell haha
Trying to beat up on someone who's already fixed the problem you're attacking them for just isn't sporting. This is EVE - Everybody Versus Everybody.
"the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built and we want to keep that (infact, this is much more representative of the consensus opinion within CCP)." -CCP Solomon |

Ersahi Kir
Freelance Mining Company
53
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Posted - 2013.03.28 20:15:00 -
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Othran wrote:RubyPorto wrote:IIRC SP-Saving Medical clones did not always exist. They didn't exist at all in early 2003 - there was no concept of a medical/jump clone in-game then. First time I got podded (for older players podded means pod-killed, unlike newer players who think it means your ship died) I lost about a week's training. That was around about June 2003 - so in my first month I lost 25% of the SP I had trained. Wasn't happy about it at the time but TBH I think that's what has kept me going in Eve over the years - the idea that catastrophic loss is just around the corner if you don't pay attention to stuff, and even if you do then that guarantees nothing. Getting a bit concerned that the game is getting a bit too warm'n'fuzzy these days right enough..... 
And you flew uphill both ways in the snow to space school, and when you were done you went down to the market and worked hard for 5 isk and you were thankful. |

Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat Working Stiffs
1654
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Posted - 2013.03.28 20:39:00 -
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This thread is now about freighter PvP fits.
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
13401
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Posted - 2013.03.28 20:44:00 -
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Tau Cabalander wrote:This thread is now about freighter PvP fits. [Ark, Ark fit]
Beat that!
Vote Malcanis for CSM8. |

RubyPorto
SniggWaffe YOUR VOTES DON'T COUNT
3076
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Posted - 2013.03.28 21:17:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Tau Cabalander wrote:This thread is now about freighter PvP fits. [Ark, Ark fit] Beat that!
[Providence, Best Fit] Command Processor I Command Processor I Command Processor I Command Processor I Command Processor I Command Processor I Command Processor I Command Processor I Command Processor I This is EVE - Everybody Versus Everybody.
"the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built and we want to keep that (infact, this is much more representative of the consensus opinion within CCP)." -CCP Solomon |

James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation RAZOR Alliance
4468
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Posted - 2013.03.28 21:59:00 -
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I trained outpost construction V, halp Malcanis for CSM 8 Module activation timers are buggy - CCP please fix |

HVAC Repairman
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
505
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Posted - 2013.03.28 22:01:00 -
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who cares you're still going to get blown up by miniluv regardless Follow me on twitter |

Ginger Barbarella
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
1228
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Posted - 2013.03.28 23:31:00 -
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Rex Aparte wrote:10/10 would read again.
Nice.  "Blow it all on Quafe and strippers." --- Sorlac |
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