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TheTravler
Terra Hawks
The Initiative.
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Posted - 2013.03.27 23:14:00 -
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Will freighter be given a skill reimbursement with Odyssey? Right now I can almost fly a a freighter. I just need advance spaceship command 1. After Odyssey I will need spaceship command 5. If I train advance space spaceship command1 now, will get a advance spaceship command 5 after?
This goes with their saying, fly it now, fly it latter. |
Rebecha Pucontis
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
84
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Posted - 2013.03.27 23:14:00 -
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Nope
But you will still be able to fly it. |
Paikis
Red Federation
RvB - RED Federation
727
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Posted - 2013.03.27 23:15:00 -
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No |
James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation
RAZOR Alliance
4456
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Posted - 2013.03.27 23:15:00 -
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No.
Malcanis for CSM 8
Module activation timers are buggy - CCP please fix |
TheTravler
Terra Hawks
The Initiative.
6
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Posted - 2013.03.27 23:19:00 -
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but the requirement will change to Advance Spaceship command 5. If I can fly it at leve1 now, I wont after the patch? |
Rebecha Pucontis
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
84
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Posted - 2013.03.27 23:22:00 -
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If you injected the skill freighter before the patch, then that is all that is required to still fly the ship after the patch. You won't need to retrain any skills as long as you have freighters skill injected.
Although you will probably want to train advanced spaceship command in the future anyway. |
TheTravler
Terra Hawks
The Initiative.
6
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Posted - 2013.03.27 23:23:00 -
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Rebecha Pucontis wrote:If you injected the skill freighter before the patch, then that is all that is required to still fly the ship after the patch. You won't need to retrain any skills as long as you have freighters skill injected.
Although you will probably want to train advanced spaceship command in the future anyway.
Right, I need level1 to fly it now. I will need level5 after the patch. Will I be given level 5 after the patch or will I be able to fly it with only level1? Will my account be flagged so that I can fly it under the required skill? |
ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors
Late Night Alliance
2144
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Posted - 2013.03.27 23:28:00 -
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TheTravler wrote:Rebecha Pucontis wrote:If you injected the skill freighter before the patch, then that is all that is required to still fly the ship after the patch. You won't need to retrain any skills as long as you have freighters skill injected.
Although you will probably want to train advanced spaceship command in the future anyway. Right, I need level1 to fly it now. I will need level5 after the patch. Will I be given level 5 after the patch or will I be able to fly it with only level1? Will my account be flagged so that I can fly it under the required skill?
You only need the prerequisite to inject a skill... you do not need the prerequisites to actually fly a ship... just the primary skill.
Change isn't bad, but it isn't always good. Sometimes, the oldest and most simple of things can be the most elegant and effective. |
Nalha Saldana
Sickology
695
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Posted - 2013.03.27 23:28:00 -
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TheTravler wrote:Rebecha Pucontis wrote:If you injected the skill freighter before the patch, then that is all that is required to still fly the ship after the patch. You won't need to retrain any skills as long as you have freighters skill injected.
Although you will probably want to train advanced spaceship command in the future anyway. Right, I need level1 to fly it now. I will need level5 after the patch. Will I be given level 5 after the patch or will I be able to fly it with only level1? Will my account be flagged so that I can fly it under the required skill?
No you will not need it to fly it, you need it to learn the freighter skill. Once you have that skill it doesnt matter what prerequirements change. |
Mark Munoz
Str8ngeBrew
STR8NGE BREW
103
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Posted - 2013.03.27 23:38:00 -
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The only skill required to fly a freighter is Freighter 1. However to inject the freighter skill now only requires Advance Spaceship 1 as of now. Come Odyssey it will require ASCV.
So when you jump into your freighter the only skill it cares about is if you have Freighters 1 trained. It doesn't care about all the new requirements others need to get to, in order to train Freighters 1. |
TheTravler
Terra Hawks
The Initiative.
6
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Posted - 2013.03.27 23:39:00 -
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So when it says I need advance spaceship5 to fly, I really only need level1?
WTF
http://content.eveonline.com/www/newssystem/media/64158/1/SkillFreighter.jpg |
TheTravler
Terra Hawks
The Initiative.
6
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Posted - 2013.03.27 23:40:00 -
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Mark Munoz wrote:The only skill required to fly a freighter is Freighter 1. However to inject the freighter skill now only requires Advance Spaceship 1 as of now. Come Odyssey it will require ASCV.
So when you jump into your freighter the only skill it cares about is if you have Freighters 1 trained. It doesn't care about all the new requirements others need to get to, in order to train Freighters 1.
I know the requirements now.... What I'm saying is if I train ASC1 and fly it around tomorrow... Come Odyssey I will need ASCV to fly. Will I be granted ASCV so I can still fly my ship? |
Rebecha Pucontis
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
85
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Posted - 2013.03.27 23:42:00 -
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The way the game works it out is that you only need the actual primary and possibly also the tertiary skills at the top of the tree to fly the ship. All of the other skills given are simply required to inject the skill and have no other relevance as far as the actual game code is concerned. |
RubyPorto
SniggWaffe
YOUR VOTES DON'T COUNT
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Posted - 2013.03.27 23:43:00 -
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TheTravler wrote:Mark Munoz wrote:The only skill required to fly a freighter is Freighter 1. However to inject the freighter skill now only requires Advance Spaceship 1 as of now. Come Odyssey it will require ASCV.
So when you jump into your freighter the only skill it cares about is if you have Freighters 1 trained. It doesn't care about all the new requirements others need to get to, in order to train Freighters 1. I know the requirements now.... What I'm saying is if I train ASC1 and fly it around tomorrow... Come Odyssey I will need ASCV to fly. Will I be granted ASCV so I can still fly my ship?
Wrong.
Today, you need Freighter 1 to fly the ship. Tomorrow, you will need Freighter 1 to fly the ship.
The pre-reqs for Freighter 1 will change, but that doesn't matter.
Not all pre-reqs are created equal, and this is how nested pre-reqs work. Same thing happens if you get Carrier 1, get podded and lose BS 5: you can still fly a Carrier because BS V is not a pre-req for flying the carrier, just for training the skill.
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Nexus Day
Lustrevik Trade and Travel Bureau
497
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Posted - 2013.03.27 23:43:00 -
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Five to one baby, one in five...no one gets out of here alive.
This thread has so much content it may be 'Thread of the Year' and it is only January.
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TheTravler
Terra Hawks
The Initiative.
6
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Posted - 2013.03.27 23:46:00 -
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I'm talking about the skill required to FLY the ship, not the skills required to learn the skills to fly the ship.
http://content.eveonline.com/www/newssystem/media/64158/1/SkillFreighter.jpg |
Rebecha Pucontis
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
85
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Posted - 2013.03.27 23:47:00 -
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It's been explained to you pretty clearly in the posts above, I suggest you re read them. |
Krell Kroenen
Miner Intimidation
129
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Posted - 2013.03.27 23:48:00 -
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It's called Skill nesting, the prerequisite skills are to inject and train the skill once you have it you have it. So you could fly your freighter at the level you trained it before prerequisites change but to train it any higher you will have to meet the new requirements.
So if you can fly it before you can after. the only case this is not true is with faction Battleships as the Battleship skill is increasing but for the love for all that is rusty you should have your BB skill higher than 1 any way. |
TheTravler
Terra Hawks
The Initiative.
6
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Posted - 2013.03.27 23:52:00 -
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Has anyone looked at the link I posted?
After the patch the ship will require level 5 to FLY.... Not to learn the skill but to FLY the ship. I can't fly it now because I don't have the required skill to fly. |
RubyPorto
SniggWaffe
YOUR VOTES DON'T COUNT
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Posted - 2013.03.27 23:53:00 -
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And look at the two pre-reqs to fly the ship listed in your picture.
Before: Freighter I, Adv Spaceship I
After: Freighter I, Adv Spaceship I
This is EVE - Everybody Versus Everybody.
"the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built and we want to keep that (infact, this is much more representative of the consensus opinion within CCP)." -CCP Solomon |
TheTravler
Terra Hawks
The Initiative.
7
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Posted - 2013.03.27 23:58:00 -
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ahh, I understand now.... Sorry, was confused as hell haha |
Xercodo
Xovoni Directorate
2232
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Posted - 2013.03.27 23:59:00 -
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RubyPorto wrote:And look at the two pre-reqs to fly the ship listed in your picture. Before: Freighter I, Adv Spaceship I After: Freighter I, Adv Spaceship I The pre-reqs nested below those skills are not required to fly the ship. They're just required to inject those skills.
Yup the skill requirements for the ship itself aren't changing at all.
After the patch you will need Adv Spaceship Command to train the freighter skill, NOT THE SHIP, THE SKILL
you do NOT need advanced spaceship command at 5 to fly a freighter after the patch
You only need Advanced spaceship command 1 and freighters 1, if you already have these skills trained before the patch then the change is completely superfluous to you.
This goes for any other skill changes too.
Another example of this is the command ships skill after the patch. Anyone who can already fly a command ship doesn't care.
The Drake is a Lie |
Abrazzar
Vardaugas Family
1170
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Posted - 2013.03.27 23:59:00 -
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After the expansion, should you try to board a Freighter without Advanced Spaceship Command V, your character will automatically biomass in shame.
Mining Overhaul
Nothing changed since 2008. |
Xercodo
Xovoni Directorate
2232
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Posted - 2013.03.28 00:07:00 -
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To anyone that comes along later and wonders "Why does this even work like this int he first place?!"
It's because of SP loss from bad clones.
Say you are able to fly the carrier archon. According to this the archon needs Amarr battleship 5 and Drone interfacing 5 for the carrier skill.
However the only skills that the carrier itself need are Capital Ships I, Amarr Carrier I, and Jump Drive Operation I.
If you were to get podded today and lose Amarr Battleship 5 you will still be able to fly an archon just fine because the lack of Amarr Battleship 5 doesn't magically stop the Carrier skill from working.
However you would lose the ability to fly a Redeemer because the ship itself specifically requires that skill to level 5.
The Drake is a Lie |
RubyPorto
SniggWaffe
YOUR VOTES DON'T COUNT
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Posted - 2013.03.28 00:09:00 -
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Xercodo wrote:To anyone that comes along later and wonders "Why does this even work like this int he first place?!" It's because of SP loss from bad clones. Say you are able to fly the carrier archon. According to this the archon needs Amarr battleship 5 and Drone interfacing 5 for the carrier skill. However the only skills that the carrier itself need are Capital Ships I, Amarr Carrier I, and Jump Drive Operation I. If you were to get podded today and lose Amarr Battleship 5 you will still be able to fly an archon just fine because the lack of Amarr Battleship 5 doesn't magically stop the Carrier skill from working. However you would lose the ability to fly a Redeemer because the ship itself specifically requires that skill to level 5.
For anyone wondering why CCP would set up a system like this protect players who forgot to update their clones: they didn't.
IIRC SP-Saving Medical clones did not always exist.
This is EVE - Everybody Versus Everybody.
"the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built and we want to keep that (infact, this is much more representative of the consensus opinion within CCP)." -CCP Solomon |
Katran Luftschreck
Royal Ammatar Engineering Corps
1227
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Posted - 2013.03.28 01:58:00 -
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CCP would sooner part with their nuts than give a SP refund. 
Live Events are neither. |
stoicfaux
2569
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Posted - 2013.03.28 02:13:00 -
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Katran Luftschreck wrote:CCP would sooner part with their nuts than give a SP refund.
I thought I detected a kinder, gentler, soprano tone from CCP after the removal and refunding of the learning skills.
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Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
3852
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Posted - 2013.03.28 02:21:00 -
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TheTravler wrote:Has anyone looked at the link I posted?
After the patch the ship will require level 5 to FLY.... Not to learn the skill but to FLY the ship. I can't fly it now because I don't have the required skill to fly.
Are you really even going too ?
There is much to be said in favour of modern journalism. By giving us the opinions of the uneducated, it keeps us in touch with the ignorance of the community.-á-á-á-á - Oscar Wilde |
Shaotuk
Sin City Enterprises
19
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Posted - 2013.03.28 03:16:00 -
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TheTravler wrote:Has anyone looked at the link I posted?
After the patch the ship will require level 5 to FLY.... Not to learn the skill but to FLY the ship. I can't fly it now because I don't have the required skill to fly.
The slow is strong with this one... |
ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors
Late Night Alliance
2144
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Posted - 2013.03.28 03:22:00 -
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Shaotuk wrote:TheTravler wrote:Has anyone looked at the link I posted?
After the patch the ship will require level 5 to FLY.... Not to learn the skill but to FLY the ship. I can't fly it now because I don't have the required skill to fly. The slow is strong with this one...
I've had milkshakes that were less... "thick." 
Change isn't bad, but it isn't always good. Sometimes, the oldest and most simple of things can be the most elegant and effective. |
Arronicus
vintas industries
Mistakes Were Made.
456
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Posted - 2013.03.28 03:49:00 -
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"If you can fly it now, you'll be able to fly it after."
Sums it up =) |
Roime
Shiva Furnace
2372
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Posted - 2013.03.28 05:22:00 -
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TheTravler wrote:Has anyone looked at the link I posted?
After the patch the ship will require level 5 to FLY.... Not to learn the skill but to FLY the ship. I can't fly it now because I don't have the required skill to fly.
No, you can not fly a freighter now, and you won't be able to fly it later. Now stop posting.
-á- All I really wanted was to build a castle among the stars - |
Adoris Nolen
Sama Guild
4
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Posted - 2013.03.28 05:27:00 -
[33] - Quote
The saddest thing about this thread is: The OP will never be able to join a decent corp ever. |
Solstice Project
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
3029
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Posted - 2013.03.28 08:50:00 -
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epic facepalm... |
Dave Stark
2244
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Posted - 2013.03.28 08:56:00 -
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thought we were finished with these type of threads.
guess not.
Want miners to move from high sec to null sec?
Then give them a reason to join player corps, and stop null sec grav sites being worth less isk/hour than high sec asteroid belts.
Really isn't difficult. |
Stray Bullets
Perkone
Caldari State
38
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Posted - 2013.03.28 08:59:00 -
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Kinda relate with the OP. Woke up groggy, after getting 3h of sleep and read his post. He made me confused on why he was confused! 
This topic is now about breakfast!  |
Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
8339
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Posted - 2013.03.28 09:41:00 -
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TheTravler wrote:Mark Munoz wrote:The only skill required to fly a freighter is Freighter 1. However to inject the freighter skill now only requires Advance Spaceship 1 as of now. Come Odyssey it will require ASCV.
So when you jump into your freighter the only skill it cares about is if you have Freighters 1 trained. It doesn't care about all the new requirements others need to get to, in order to train Freighters 1. I know the requirements now.... What I'm saying is if I train ASC1 and fly it around tomorrow... Come Odyssey I will need ASCV to fly. Will I be granted ASCV so I can still fly my ship?
You've been told 3 times now.
You need freighter 1 to FLY a Freighter. If you have Freighter 1, you can continue to fly your freighter after the change.
ASC 5 will not be needed to FLY a freighter after the change, only to STATRT THE SKILL of Freighter 1
Since you already have the skill, you will not be affected. It will only be an issue for you if you somehow managed to lose your freighter skill and needed to re-inject it.
PS However ASC improves your freighter's time to warp; I advise training it up anyway.
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Ammzi
Infinite Covenant
Tribal Band
1318
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Posted - 2013.03.28 11:35:00 -
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TheTravler wrote:Has anyone looked at the link I posted?
After the patch the ship will require level 5 to FLY.... Not to learn the skill but to FLY the ship. I can't fly it now because I don't have the required skill to fly.
ARE YOU ******* ******** OR WHAT. READ WHAT THE **** PEOPLE ARE WRITING TO YOU.
THE CODE DOESN'T CHECK THE ******* UNDERLYING SKILLS, IT CHECKS THE TOP SKILL, THE FREIGHTER SKILL AND THAT IS IT.
IF THAT ******* SKILL IS IN YOUR HEAD, THEN YOU CAN FLY IT. NOW SHUT
THE
****
UP.
Jesus christ dude
quote CCP Spitfire
"Hello Im Blue,"
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Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
3857
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Posted - 2013.03.28 13:37:00 -
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Ammzi wrote:TheTravler wrote:Has anyone looked at the link I posted?
After the patch the ship will require level 5 to FLY.... Not to learn the skill but to FLY the ship. I can't fly it now because I don't have the required skill to fly. ARE YOU ******* ******** OR WHAT. READ WHAT THE **** PEOPLE ARE WRITING TO YOU. THE CODE DOESN'T CHECK THE ******* UNDERLYING SKILLS, IT CHECKS THE TOP SKILL, THE FREIGHTER SKILL AND THAT IS IT. IF THAT ******* SKILL IS IN YOUR HEAD, THEN YOU CAN FLY IT. NOW SHUT THE **** UP. Jesus christ dude
Well, I for one am completely deaf now too.
There is much to be said in favour of modern journalism. By giving us the opinions of the uneducated, it keeps us in touch with the ignorance of the community.-á-á-á-á - Oscar Wilde |
IHaveCandyGetInTheVan69
Wolfsbrigade
Lost Obsession
330
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Posted - 2013.03.28 13:51:00 -
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Adoris Nolen wrote:The saddest thing about this thread is: The OP will never be able to join a decent corp ever.
No longer can Eve claim to have a more intelligent player base than other MMOs.
Just kidding, that was never true. |
Tiberious Thessalonia
True Slave Foundations
Shaktipat Revelators
1624
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Posted - 2013.03.28 13:52:00 -
[41] - Quote
People still yelling at the OP did not read the rest of the thread. |
Fractal Muse
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
242
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Posted - 2013.03.28 13:54:00 -
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Tiberious Thessalonia wrote:People still yelling at the OP did not read the rest of the thread.
You mean there were people complaining that the OP wasn't reading the responses who, themselves, didn't read the responses? Oh, the irony....
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De'Veldrin
East India Ore Trade
The East India Co.
1222
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Posted - 2013.03.28 13:54:00 -
[43] - Quote
This thread was just painful to read, especially since the devs have already explained this, multiple times, in great detail.
Malcanis for CSM 8
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Rex Aparte
The Scope
Gallente Federation
29
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Posted - 2013.03.28 14:05:00 -
[44] - Quote
10/10 would read again. |
Mag's
the united
Negative Ten.
14622
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Posted - 2013.03.28 14:56:00 -
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De'Veldrin wrote:This thread was just painful to read, especially since the devs have already explained this, multiple times, in great detail. Indeed.
So, what skills do I need before and after and what do I need to do again?
Malcanis for CSM 8.
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RubyPorto
SniggWaffe
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Posted - 2013.03.28 15:09:00 -
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Mag's wrote:De'Veldrin wrote:This thread was just painful to read, especially since the devs have already explained this, multiple times, in great detail. Indeed. So, what skills do I need before and after and what do I need to do again?
Titan V
This is EVE - Everybody Versus Everybody.
"the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built and we want to keep that (infact, this is much more representative of the consensus opinion within CCP)." -CCP Solomon |
Velicitia
Arma Artificer
1321
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Posted - 2013.03.28 15:11:00 -
[47] - Quote
Mag's wrote:De'Veldrin wrote:This thread was just painful to read, especially since the devs have already explained this, multiple times, in great detail. Indeed. So, what skills do I need before and after and what do I need to do again?
all of them. especially ASC 5. 
One of the bitter points of a good bittervet is the realisation that all those SP don't really do much, and that the newbie is having much more fun with what little he has. - Tippia
Malcanis for CSM8 |
Ereilian
Over The Horizon
0
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Posted - 2013.03.28 15:21:00 -
[48] - Quote
TheTravler wrote:Has anyone looked at the link I posted?
After the patch the ship will require level 5 to FLY.... Not to learn the skill but to FLY the ship. I can't fly it now because I don't have the required skill to fly.
Seriously learn 2 play EVE.
The only skills you need to FLY A SHIP ARE THE TOP LEVEL SKILLS IN EACH TREE. YOU DO NOT NEED THE PREREQUISITE SKILLS TO FLY THE SHIP.
As stated ad nauseum, those remain the same.
What is changing is the required skills to TRAIN those skills, if you ALREADY HAVE THE SKILL INJECTED OR TRAINED IT MAKES NO DIFFERENCE.
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Othran
Route One
463
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Posted - 2013.03.28 15:53:00 -
[49] - Quote
RubyPorto wrote:IIRC SP-Saving Medical clones did not always exist.
They didn't exist at all in early 2003 - there was no concept of a medical/jump clone in-game then.
First time I got podded (for older players podded means pod-killed, unlike newer players who think it means your ship died) I lost about a week's training. That was around about June 2003 - so in my first month I lost 25% of the SP I had trained.
Wasn't happy about it at the time but TBH I think that's what has kept me going in Eve over the years - the idea that catastrophic loss is just around the corner if you don't pay attention to stuff, and even if you do then that guarantees nothing.
Getting a bit concerned that the game is getting a bit too warm'n'fuzzy these days right enough.....  |
Montevius Williams
Eclipse Industrial Inc
431
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Posted - 2013.03.28 17:02:00 -
[50] - Quote
Here we go again with people over-thinking crap
CCP said, "if you can fly the **** now, you'll be able to fly the **** after the patch"
I don't understand what is so hard about this to understand.
No skill reimbursements required.
"The American Government indoctrination system known as public education has been relentlessly churning out socialists for over 20 years". - TravisWB |
RubyPorto
SniggWaffe
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Posted - 2013.03.28 19:54:00 -
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Othran wrote:RubyPorto wrote:IIRC SP-Saving Medical clones did not always exist. They didn't exist at all in early 2003 - there was no concept of a medical/jump clone in-game then. First time I got podded (for older players podded means pod-killed, unlike newer players who think it means your ship died) I lost about a week's training. That was around about June 2003 - so in my first month I lost 25% of the SP I had trained. Wasn't happy about it at the time but TBH I think that's what has kept me going in Eve over the years - the idea that catastrophic loss is just around the corner if you don't pay attention to stuff, and even if you do then that guarantees nothing. Getting a bit concerned that the game is getting a bit too warm'n'fuzzy these days right enough.....
I was pretty sure, but then I couldn't find any sources and started second guessing myself... so I hedged... with weasel words.
This is EVE - Everybody Versus Everybody.
"the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built and we want to keep that (infact, this is much more representative of the consensus opinion within CCP)." -CCP Solomon |
yopparai
ASTARTES CORP
Hashashin Cartel
1615
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Posted - 2013.03.28 20:06:00 -
[52] - Quote
TheTravler wrote:Mark Munoz wrote:The only skill required to fly a freighter is Freighter 1. However to inject the freighter skill now only requires Advance Spaceship 1 as of now. Come Odyssey it will require ASCV.
So when you jump into your freighter the only skill it cares about is if you have Freighters 1 trained. It doesn't care about all the new requirements others need to get to, in order to train Freighters 1. I know the requirements now.... What I'm saying is if I train ASC1 and fly it around tomorrow... Come Odyssey I will need ASCV to fly. Will I be granted ASCV so I can still fly my ship?
First train reading comprehension to lvl 4 then re-read the 8-10 post that say yes you will be able to fly your freighter. |
RubyPorto
SniggWaffe
YOUR VOTES DON'T COUNT
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Posted - 2013.03.28 20:10:00 -
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yopparai wrote:
First train reading comprehension to lvl 4 then re-read the 8-10 post that say yes you will be able to fly your freighter.
As entertaining as watching everyone demonstrate their hypocrisy is:
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2803306#post2803306
TheTravler wrote:ahh, I understand now.... Sorry, was confused as hell haha
Trying to beat up on someone who's already fixed the problem you're attacking them for just isn't sporting.
This is EVE - Everybody Versus Everybody.
"the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built and we want to keep that (infact, this is much more representative of the consensus opinion within CCP)." -CCP Solomon |
Ersahi Kir
Freelance Mining Company
53
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Posted - 2013.03.28 20:15:00 -
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Othran wrote:RubyPorto wrote:IIRC SP-Saving Medical clones did not always exist. They didn't exist at all in early 2003 - there was no concept of a medical/jump clone in-game then. First time I got podded (for older players podded means pod-killed, unlike newer players who think it means your ship died) I lost about a week's training. That was around about June 2003 - so in my first month I lost 25% of the SP I had trained. Wasn't happy about it at the time but TBH I think that's what has kept me going in Eve over the years - the idea that catastrophic loss is just around the corner if you don't pay attention to stuff, and even if you do then that guarantees nothing. Getting a bit concerned that the game is getting a bit too warm'n'fuzzy these days right enough.....
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Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat
Working Stiffs
1654
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Posted - 2013.03.28 20:39:00 -
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This thread is now about freighter PvP fits.
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
13401
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Posted - 2013.03.28 20:44:00 -
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Tau Cabalander wrote:This thread is now about freighter PvP fits. [Ark, Ark fit]
Beat that!
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RubyPorto
SniggWaffe
YOUR VOTES DON'T COUNT
3076
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Posted - 2013.03.28 21:17:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Tau Cabalander wrote:This thread is now about freighter PvP fits. [Ark, Ark fit] Beat that!
[Providence, Best Fit]
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James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation
RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2013.03.28 21:59:00 -
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I trained outpost construction V, halp
Malcanis for CSM 8
Module activation timers are buggy - CCP please fix |
HVAC Repairman
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
505
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Posted - 2013.03.28 22:01:00 -
[59] - Quote
who cares you're still going to get blown up by miniluv regardless
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Ginger Barbarella
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
1228
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Posted - 2013.03.28 23:31:00 -
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Rex Aparte wrote:10/10 would read again.
Nice.
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Nexus Day
Lustrevik Trade and Travel Bureau
500
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Posted - 2013.03.29 01:07:00 -
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Remember, if you can fly it crappy now you can fly it crappy later.
And that kids is one to grow on. Go Joe!
This thread has so much content it may be 'Thread of the Year' and it is only January.
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Kamden Line
Serenity Prime
Kraken.
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Posted - 2013.03.29 03:01:00 -
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HEY GUYS
CCP SAYS "hey,we're going to change this skill to bring it in line with xyz requirements" BUT I HAVE THIS SKILL TRAINED TO V AND I KNOW CCP HAS NEVER EVER EVER EVER (except for when they take skills out the game ) REIMBURSED PEOPLE FOR WHEN THEY CHANGE REQUIREMENTS BUT I CAN HAS REIMBURSE?!
enough of these goddamn threads already. |
Rebecha Pucontis
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
99
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Posted - 2013.03.29 06:30:00 -
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Othran wrote:RubyPorto wrote:IIRC SP-Saving Medical clones did not always exist. They didn't exist at all in early 2003 - there was no concept of a medical/jump clone in-game then. First time I got podded (for older players podded means pod-killed, unlike newer players who think it means your ship died) I lost about a week's training. That was around about June 2003 - so in my first month I lost 25% of the SP I had trained. Wasn't happy about it at the time but TBH I think that's what has kept me going in Eve over the years - the idea that catastrophic loss is just around the corner if you don't pay attention to stuff, and even if you do then that guarantees nothing. Getting a bit concerned that the game is getting a bit too warm'n'fuzzy these days right enough.....
Hah, wow that is harsh. Although I must admit I am quite intrigued in how it would effect the gameplay of Eve is such a mechanic still existed now. Perhaps if you lost 5% of SP though and not 25%, certainly would be interesting. In a way I wish Eve was still like that. |
pussnheels
The Fiction Factory
1073
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Posted - 2013.03.29 06:56:00 -
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just acknoledging what some other said
CCP stated that if you can fly it now you still will be able to fly it after the expansion
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Djana Libra
The Black Ops
Black Core Alliance
121
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Posted - 2013.03.29 07:07:00 -
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derp derp i can not fly a freighter now so will i still not be able to fly one after the patch?? |
De'Veldrin
East India Ore Trade
The East India Co.
1233
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Posted - 2013.03.29 13:37:00 -
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Mag's wrote:De'Veldrin wrote:This thread was just painful to read, especially since the devs have already explained this, multiple times, in great detail. Indeed. So, what skills do I need before and after and what do I need to do again?
Sadly, there is no Reading Comprehension skill in the tree anywhere. I checked.
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De'Veldrin
East India Ore Trade
The East India Co.
1233
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Posted - 2013.03.29 13:37:00 -
[67] - Quote
Djana Libra wrote:derp derp i can not fly a freighter now so will i still not be able to fly one after the patch??
Hey! Someone who gets it! Congratulations, you are smarter than the OP.
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the united
Negative Ten.
14632
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Posted - 2013.03.29 19:48:00 -
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De'Veldrin wrote:Mag's wrote:De'Veldrin wrote:This thread was just painful to read, especially since the devs have already explained this, multiple times, in great detail. Indeed. So, what skills do I need before and after and what do I need to do again? Sadly, there is no Reading Comprehension skill in the tree anywhere. I checked. I think I know what happens because of this. It means we get all our SP back.
Malcanis for CSM 8.
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Mallak Azaria
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
2789
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Posted - 2013.03.29 19:57:00 -
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TheTravler wrote:Rebecha Pucontis wrote:If you injected the skill freighter before the patch, then that is all that is required to still fly the ship after the patch. You won't need to retrain any skills as long as you have freighters skill injected.
Although you will probably want to train advanced spaceship command in the future anyway. Right, I need level1 to fly it now. I will need level5 after the patch. Will I be given level 5 after the patch or will I be able to fly it with only level1? Will my account be flagged so that I can fly it under the required skill?
No. If you can fly it now you can fly it after the change. Advanced Spaceship Command V is a requirement to inject the Freighter skill, not to fly the ship. Is it really that hard to understand?
Apparently booking your flight & accomodation to Iceland BEFORE you buy the tickets for the convention which is pretty much the only reason you wanted to go there in the first place is popular. |
Arcaus Rotrau Romali
Apex Nebula Ventures
34
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Posted - 2013.03.29 20:01:00 -
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Mallak Azaria wrote:
No. If you can fly it now you can fly it after the change. Advanced Spaceship Command V is a requirement to inject the Freighter skill, not to fly the ship. Is it really that hard to understand?
TheTravler wrote:ahh, I understand now.... Sorry, was confused as hell haha
He got it at the top of page 2. |
Mallak Azaria
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
2789
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Posted - 2013.03.29 20:08:00 -
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Arcaus Rotrau Romali wrote:Mallak Azaria wrote:
No. If you can fly it now you can fly it after the change. Advanced Spaceship Command V is a requirement to inject the Freighter skill, not to fly the ship. Is it really that hard to understand?
TheTravler wrote:ahh, I understand now.... Sorry, was confused as hell haha He got it at the top of page 2.
Still too slow.
Apparently booking your flight & accomodation to Iceland BEFORE you buy the tickets for the convention which is pretty much the only reason you wanted to go there in the first place is popular. |
Felicity Love
STARKRAFT
Joint Venture Conglomerate
384
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Posted - 2013.03.29 20:15:00 -
[72] - Quote
This just in... those currently flying overpriced cargo in freighters will still be just as likely to be ganked and laughed at after the patch... or the laughing will get louder since, well, why not ?
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Alekksander Geinesa
Hateful Munitions
0
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Posted - 2013.04.10 19:17:00 -
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Ammzi wrote:TheTravler wrote:Has anyone looked at the link I posted?
After the patch the ship will require level 5 to FLY.... Not to learn the skill but to FLY the ship. I can't fly it now because I don't have the required skill to fly. ARE YOU ******* ******** OR WHAT. READ WHAT THE **** PEOPLE ARE WRITING TO YOU. THE CODE DOESN'T CHECK THE ******* UNDERLYING SKILLS, IT CHECKS THE TOP SKILL, THE FREIGHTER SKILL AND THAT IS IT. IF THAT ******* SKILL IS IN YOUR HEAD, THEN YOU CAN FLY IT. NOW SHUT THE **** UP. Jesus christ dude
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Myoto Holding
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Posted - 2013.04.10 20:15:00 -
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Alekksander Geinesa wrote:
Reported for verbal abuse on these guidelines
Wild guess here, You had no friends at school because you were the kind to report everything to your teacher.
Poor you, being victim of an agression by those MEAN pixel.
Are you sure EVE is the right game for you?
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Ai Shun
923
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Posted - 2013.04.10 20:23:00 -
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Ah, he got it. Cool. |
Alekksander Geinesa
Hateful Munitions
0
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Posted - 2013.04.10 20:39:00 -
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Rackan Resa wrote:Alekksander Geinesa wrote:
Reported for verbal abuse on these guidelines
Wild guess here, You had no friends at school because you were the kind to report everything to your teacher. Poor you, being victim of an agression by those MEAN pixel. Are you sure EVE is the right game for you?
Lawl, post with your main...... |
Arcaus Rotrau Romali
Apex Nebula Ventures
36
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Posted - 2013.04.10 21:14:00 -
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Alekksander Geinesa wrote:Ammzi wrote:
ARE YOU ******* ******** OR WHAT. READ WHAT THE **** PEOPLE ARE WRITING TO YOU.
THE CODE DOESN'T CHECK THE ******* UNDERLYING SKILLS, IT CHECKS THE TOP SKILL, THE FREIGHTER SKILL AND THAT IS IT.
IF THAT ******* SKILL IS IN YOUR HEAD, THEN YOU CAN FLY IT. NOW SHUT
THE
****
UP.
Jesus christ dude
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I see no alternate spellings or partially masked words. I read the censored words as :
are you READING JAPANESE or what
the KIND people
the USELESS underlying
that BLASTED skill
the DOOR up
but that last one may not be right |
Alekksander Geinesa
Hateful Munitions
1
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Posted - 2013.04.10 21:44:00 -
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Arcaus Rotrau Romali wrote:Alekksander Geinesa wrote:Ammzi wrote:
ARE YOU ******* ******** OR WHAT. READ WHAT THE **** PEOPLE ARE WRITING TO YOU.
THE CODE DOESN'T CHECK THE ******* UNDERLYING SKILLS, IT CHECKS THE TOP SKILL, THE FREIGHTER SKILL AND THAT IS IT.
IF THAT ******* SKILL IS IN YOUR HEAD, THEN YOU CAN FLY IT. NOW SHUT
THE
****
UP.
Jesus christ dude
Reported for verbal abuse on these guidelines: Severe offences may result in an immediate ban without warning; however, warnings may be given for first time offenses, followed by account suspensions of varying degree and ultimately a permanent ban if a player: a. Is abusive, obscene, offensive, sexually explicit, ethnically or racially offensive, or threatening to another player or an official EVE Online representative. You may not use any abusive, defamatory, ethnically or racially offensive, harassing, harmful, hateful, obscene, offensive, sexually explicit, threatening or vulgar language. (Alternate spelling or partial masking of such words will be reprimanded in the same manner as the actual use of such words.) I see no alternate spellings or partially masked words. I read the censored words as : are you READING JAPANESE or what the KIND people the USELESS underlying that BLASTED skill the DOOR up but that last one may not be right
*shrug*
Well then maybe I am incorrect.. however luckly it is not my postion to judge such things, and only to report them to the proper people.. They will decide if he has broken any rules or not.
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