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Don ZOLA
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Posted - 2005.09.07 04:29:00 -
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props for staying up with SE and not jumping on bandwagon
There are 2 rules in a successful life: 1. Don't tell people everything you know |
Jovian Strain
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Posted - 2005.09.07 05:00:00 -
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Quote: The People in SA Saw u guys as Allies and have always treated you and your people with respect.
ROFL! We remember Feyt very well.
ASCN |
Destroyer Draxx
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Posted - 2005.09.07 05:52:00 -
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Originally by: Jovian Strain
Quote: The People in SA Saw u guys as Allies and have always treated you and your people with respect.
ROFL! We remember Feyt very well.
Clue : Thats were u earned our respect ;)
So Far So Good....So What |
HadHaFangs
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Posted - 2005.09.07 05:54:00 -
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Im going to be blunt honest
I Dont give a rats rear about SA or SE in their current war. What i do care about is my corp.
Solar Winds has friends on both sides, and does not wish to fight either side.
How is ASCN going to handle the number of corps that moved to Omist to setup a claim out there. Is ASCN going to "Remove" them from the space they said they could inhabit just because of what MASS is doing.
As of right now SOLAR WIND IS NETURAL in the conflict and wishes to remain that way until otherwise stated ------------------------
"Sometimes killing a fly with a sledge hammer is entirely appropriate. It dosn't make the fly any more dead |
Bared Bel'Medar
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Posted - 2005.09.07 06:13:00 -
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Edited by: Bared Bel''Medar on 07/09/2005 06:21:16 Correct me if I'm wrong on this:
1.) Members of Species were seen with the ACSN fleet taking the Redemption station.
2.) Omist belongs to mass, and mass alone
3.) Samuel 1:1
I guess that makes us David.
I have more info: Major Riven was flying with ASCN? Is this nutrality!?
My war with Stain is like the super hero who screws responsibility and takes up knitting. |
TornSoul
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Posted - 2005.09.07 06:16:00 -
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Originally by: CYVOK The Ascendant Frontier has been in talks for 2 days with The5, FIX, & SE. NO ONE have been able to give us a straight answer on where they stand in the SA vs SE war.
Hmm - What does that remind me of... Oh yes - Trying to talk to ASCN
Guess the taste of your own medicine didnt taste so well.
I hope your unprecedented post (in as far as stating ASCN's intend), is a result of realizing that if you give people bull - You get back bull yourself (ie. no answers)
Current conflicts aside - I hope this is a new trend for ASCN.
BIG Lottery
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KSUDruid
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Posted - 2005.09.07 06:23:00 -
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Seriously tornsoul, do we have to break out the crayons for you again?
-Druid "Civis Ascendant"
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Gradinger
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Posted - 2005.09.07 06:31:00 -
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respect to cyvok and ASCN ... for not choosing the easiest way...
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Bruchpilot
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Posted - 2005.09.07 06:49:00 -
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Thank you for prooving me wrong.
Respect for your decision!
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s4mp3r0r
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Posted - 2005.09.07 07:01:00 -
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Thanks for the support ASCN.
Proud ex-CEO of the official Verone Fanclub.
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Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2005.09.07 07:03:00 -
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What kind of NPC's are there in Omist?
Angels suck with this patch.
Ayeilla > Yes, Lineage 2 has the most unhelpful Gm's and tech support around
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Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2005.09.07 07:06:00 -
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Originally by: HadHaFangs Im going to be blunt honest
I Dont give a rats rear about SA or SE in their current war. What i do care about is my corp.
Solar Winds has friends on both sides, and does not wish to fight either side.
How is ASCN going to handle the number of corps that moved to Omist to setup a claim out there. Is ASCN going to "Remove" them from the space they said they could inhabit just because of what MASS is doing.
As of right now SOLAR WIND IS NETURAL in the conflict and wishes to remain that way until otherwise stated
You may wish to make your own thread because your statement may get lost in the drama of this one.
Ayeilla > Yes, Lineage 2 has the most unhelpful Gm's and tech support around
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Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2005.09.07 07:08:00 -
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Originally by: SeverusSnape Good to know there will be something to kill after we take care of se
Is that an official statement?
Ayeilla > Yes, Lineage 2 has the most unhelpful Gm's and tech support around
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MOS DEF
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Posted - 2005.09.07 07:08:00 -
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Originally by: Joshua Calvert What kind of NPC's are there in Omist?
Angels suck with this patch.
If we wouldn't know you better one could think you're a carebear.
Do we really care about the NPCs in Omist. Do we care about Omist AT ALL?
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Steel Rat
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Posted - 2005.09.07 07:09:00 -
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No where in our official statement do we say we are neutral. We have chosen not to take this beyond our borders and Omist.
<Gets out box of crayons for Torn>
For those of you textually challenged, you may view the follow pic created for Torn :)
Crayons 4tw
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Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2005.09.07 07:12:00 -
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Originally by: Destroyer Draxx
Originally by: Jovian Strain
Quote: The People in SA Saw u guys as Allies and have always treated you and your people with respect.
ROFL! We remember Feyt very well.
Clue : Thats were u earned our respect ;)
Then you should also respect the fact SE, as they are now, have earned higher respect from us as staunch allies.
We've set you to -5 just to make it clear to you that you should not enter ASCN space unless you are looking for trouble.
Ayeilla > Yes, Lineage 2 has the most unhelpful Gm's and tech support around
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Prometheus Wrong
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Posted - 2005.09.07 07:13:00 -
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There are plenty in ASCN with respect for those in SA corps. To see that respect reciprocated was and is honoring. Whatever comes of this, I hope that respect remains, and while egoes will no doubt make it difficult (we need more chicks in this game) this can be resolved diplomatically...after a ****load of shooting, killing and forum whoring I expect...but there's no reason we can't all be gentlemen about it.
<polishes his monocle> Yes, yes quite, yes...
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FileCop AI
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Posted - 2005.09.07 07:14:00 -
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Setting hostile standings and killing whereever spotted has nothing to do with being neutral and staying out of the conflict. It is clear to the entire eve community, that ascn have declared their support to SE and thus war on SA.
However, we take this on gracefully. Once SE is dead, we will see if the situation with you will in fact be solved diplomatically, or if you're going to die to our guns just as SE. Personally I hope for the first - I've earned respect in you guys over time. Even though your current actions made a cut on the popular-o-meter of mine ;)
FileCop AI of MASS Co-CEO |
Rod Blaine
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Posted - 2005.09.07 07:16:00 -
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Edited by: Rod Blaine on 07/09/2005 07:17:55 Hmm but Joshua, does not -5 in ASCN books mean you will be shooting SA anywhere ?
And does not the taking of Omyst mean that you have effectiely declared open war on SA ?
I mean, this looks like alot of talk about nothing other then picking a clear side here. You can of course try and avoid open conflict with SA, but how long do you think it'll take someone from your side to shoot an SA ship outside of the named regions and thereby turn this into an open war betwen you and SA ?
And from there, how long do you think it'll take to escalate further ? _______________________________________________
Yes yes, blogging is passÚ I know. Rod's Ramblingz on Eve-Online Solutions to your issues. |
FalloutBoy
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Posted - 2005.09.07 07:17:00 -
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Originally by: Steel Rat No where in our official statement do we say we are neutral. We have chosen not to take this beyond our borders and Omist.
<Gets out box of crayons for Torn>
For those of you textually challenged, you may view the follow pic created for Torn :)
Crayons 4tw
nice but this is a bit more acurate
correct
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Krapz
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Posted - 2005.09.07 07:17:00 -
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Originally by: Steel Rat No where in our official statement do we say we are neutral. We have chosen not to take this beyond our borders and Omist.
<Gets out box of crayons for Torn>
For those of you textually challenged, you may view the follow pic created for Torn :)
Crayons 4tw
I <3 Steel.
Well, while taking MASS's 3rd and final station, I finally found some time to reply to this thread.
What an incredible flippin waste of time. Thx guys.
We had a deal, ppl are bending it to the point of breaking. I thought we were past the petty stuff. Small scale alliance warfare? What a waste of time and energy.
We played enough station ping pong already, I thought MASS already knew that. We let you go w/ a +5 after our last encounter so you could get your stuff out of our space.
So now you have chosen to attack another +5 friend of ours. And use our space to launch this offensive? All without our consent or even prior knowledge? Nice job.
You have violated our trust. You have violated our treaty. This would be no different had someone attacked FIX or -5-. This is in no way beneficial for the south. So we've basically separated you both, spanked SA for being bad kids, and sent you to your room.
This is NOT a civil war. MASS was a part of another alliance, and is now attacking SE with a new alliance. In my best Cujo impersonation, all I can say is "That dog just ain't gunna hunt."
No war in the south boys. War goes northward, not down here. It's lame, counterproductive, and just not cricket.
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Evil Thug
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Posted - 2005.09.07 07:18:00 -
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Having a balls is always good.
GL ASCN. ----------------------------------------------- Ash to Ash Dust to Dust |
Dianabolic
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Posted - 2005.09.07 07:19:00 -
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GL ASCN.
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Rod Blaine
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Posted - 2005.09.07 07:22:00 -
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Quote: So we've basically separated you both, spanked SA for being bad kids, and sent you to your room.
hmm
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Yes yes, blogging is passÚ I know. Rod's Ramblingz on Eve-Online Solutions to your issues. |
CYVOK
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Posted - 2005.09.07 07:37:00 -
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Originally by: HadHaFangs Im going to be blunt honest
I Dont give a rats rear about SA or SE in their current war. What i do care about is my corp.
Solar Winds has friends on both sides, and does not wish to fight either side.
How is ASCN going to handle the number of corps that moved to Omist to setup a claim out there. Is ASCN going to "Remove" them from the space they said they could inhabit just because of what MASS is doing.
As of right now SOLAR WIND IS NETURAL in the conflict and wishes to remain that way until otherwise stated
As was stated earlier, ASCN has NO want of keeping the region. We are open to diplomatic overtures if the corps that call the region home wish to take control for themselves. But for now, as long as the area supports MASS we cannot support you. Your tax pays for their fleets which they use not to defend you but to wage war on others. We respect the fact that you live in the region and are open to working out an agreement respectful to both sides needs.
I would also like to point out to "supporters" and current "enemies" alike that our actions today are not personal. ASCN has not broken our agreements with BoB, Fix, SE, or The5 (and we do not plan to) as those organizations have not broken agreements with ASCN.
MASS broke their part of the southern "treaty" (or whatever you want to call it), We are enforcing that treaty to end war in the south as quickly as possible.
ASCN sticks to our agreements, we have no need for war with our southern neighbors and even less want for their territory, lest they make war on us, or our allies.
As for the "NAP" between MASS and ASCN, their never was one, we simply extended curtsies to one another out of the respect earned through the last conflict at the end of the Xetic wars.
MASS disrespected the stability and goals of the greater south to peruse personal glory.
Instead of joining SE as a member corp, merging omist into the Stain Empire and re-gaining their position in SE by earning it thru supporting their SE brothers, making SE stronger, they chose to snub SE's current members and leadership and simply force their way back into power. All the time weakening the relative position of the entire south.
MASS is thinking currently of only their own CORP and personal desires, they care nothing for others or in building meaningful, strong partnerships with those around them.
As for my personal ego... anyone who knows me, knows my ego does not EVER determine my decesions. I NEVER make a decesion alone. ASCN is a team, we all do what is best for the team. I am only one of the better known memebrs as far as I am concerned.
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BOOFER
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Posted - 2005.09.07 07:39:00 -
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Couldnt say it better myself
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Bared
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Posted - 2005.09.07 07:41:00 -
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Edited by: Bared on 07/09/2005 07:44:15
Originally by: FileCop AI Setting hostile standings and killing whereever spotted has nothing to do with being neutral and staying out of the conflict. It is clear to the entire eve community, that ascn have declared their support to SE and thus war on SA.
However, we take this on gracefully. Once SE is dead, we will see if the situation with you will in fact be solved diplomatically, or if you're going to die to our guns just as SE. Personally I hope for the first - I've earned respect in you guys over time. Even though your current actions made a cut on the popular-o-meter of mine ;)
**** that, I'm not waiting till SE has totally gone. This has gone way of the shermometer in in opinion.
BTW, the reason MASS is at war with SE is because of what Cujo did to SGE and ADGA did to R-I. Theres an old quote by Hienrich Himmler: If you tell a lie big enough and often enough, eventualy the people will come to believe it. Dont be fooled guys, SE started this one. SA intend to finish it.
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thebold
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Posted - 2005.09.07 07:48:00 -
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BOB, 5, FIX, and aprently you CYVOK TRIGGER had spoken to you.
I heard rumors last night when you was online and i Tried to contact you... check your emails and i also tried to contact your older directors to confirm with some of your leadership
if this is what you want then so be it. This is turning out to be a interesting turn of events indead.
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LokeDemonG
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Posted - 2005.09.07 07:49:00 -
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Originally by: Rodsauro From what I understand, this is being done so that all SA/SE fighting occurs where it should, in Stain. ASCN doesn't want to, literally, be in the middle of the fighting. Therefore by removing stations in Omist from the equation, we can hopefully avoid fighting either side.
Once again, this is just a personal view.
Think its more to let SE have backdoor out of PS and Estoria. Now that's been sorted out
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Nache1
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Posted - 2005.09.07 07:50:00 -
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Edited by: Nache1 on 07/09/2005 07:55:28 hmm you wont let SA through your space to attack SE but you have SE in your gang to take the stations in Omist .
Think some one in ASCN needs to state things right the way things are happening , not the way you want everyone else to see you as .
today I was shocked at what ASCN is doing . So after reading this whole post I now got the facts ..
1) ASCN are attacking SA support systems and claiming them . 2) ASCN are alowing SE through there space to attack SA support systems . 3) ASCN claim they will only hold Omist untill this SE/SA war is over . 4) ASCN claim that it wasnt there fault that the southern treaty fell apart .( at least you tryed to hold it together this long , thanks for trying )
Now I have been back in game for a short time ( left the game for RL reasons ) and I have made my home in Omist , I had the upmost respect for ASCN up untill now . I have alot of friends in ASCN and SE . I have seen first hand how some ASCN corps treat there friends ( attacking corps in Omist a month ago ) and I have also seen how the rest of ASCN stand by there word . Well up untill now I have stayed by my word and not fired on ASCN untill today , you attack my home and make me -5 ? you hunt my corp and my friends to help your SE buddys ?
Thats all fine by me , just so we all know where you stand in this . ( this was my own views on this and not an offical statment of either Partera Tech or SA )
and yes I know I need to change my sig ..
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