Originally by: kinjistical

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according to your standings sheet SE is +7.5 and SA is -5

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Originally by: kinjistical

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according to your standings sheet SE is +7.5 and SA is -5

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Originally by: kinjistical

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according to your standings sheet SE is +7.5 and SA is -5

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We have set SA and all SA corps to -5.

We are not changing our standings with SE, we always honor our agreements to the end. If SE is destroyed it is not our concern and will not be because of our actions. We will honor any reasonable agreements other organizations (including SA) wish to make after we take this action.

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Originally by: Gibmundur

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die

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Originally by: Gibmundur

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die

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Originally by: kinjistical

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Well just that cyvok said he was setting SE and SA to -5

then reffering to his standings sheet shows some inconsistancies

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Originally by: kinjistical

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Well just that cyvok said he was setting SE and SA to -5

then reffering to his standings sheet shows some inconsistancies

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Originally by: kinjistical

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Well just that cyvok said he was setting SE and SA to -5

then reffering to his standings sheet shows some inconsistancies

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Originally by: Nez Perces

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Edited by: Nez Perces on 07/09/2005 03:10:06
Very interesting and calculated post....

Just out of personal curiosity,

A (-5) standing from yourselves does not mean that the entity is being actively seeked as a target correct?

Furthermore, should that -5 entity manage to avoid yourselves in 0.0 space, there should in theory be no instances of fire exchanged?

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-5.0 Your just a political enemy. ASCN may or may not be activetly "hunting" you. You will be fired on in all of 0.0

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Very interesting and calculated post....

Just out of personal curiosity,

A (-5) standing from yourselves does not mean that the entity is being actively seeked as a target correct?

Furthermore, should that -5 entity manage to avoid yourselves in 0.0 space, there should in theory be no instances of fire exchanged?

Statements that whoever the victor is shall be treated as an equal once the conflict is over is a testament to this. So what ASCN is stating is neutrality with a twist?

Pls correct me if im wrong.

P.S - Just my own personal curiousity here nothing more than that.

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Originally by: Angelhunter

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Not a big Fan of ASCN, but i am glad to see they didn't jump on the bandwagon. Good call guys!

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Originally by: Angelhunter

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Not a big Fan of ASCN, but i am glad to see they didn't jump on the bandwagon. Good call guys!

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Originally by: Tomas Ysidro

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Cry havoc...

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Originally by: Hoozin

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And let slip ...

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Originally by: CDLPeacemaker

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Originally by: Tomas Ysidro

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Cry havoc...

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Originally by: Hoozin

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And let slip ...

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The dogs of war!

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Originally by: Arnold Schwarzennegger

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Originally by: Angelhunter

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Not a big Fan of ASCN, but i am glad to see they didn't jump on the bandwagon. Good call guys!

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There is no bandwagon.

SA have declared on SE
SE have declared on SA
-V- have declared on SA
.5. have declared on SE
ASCN have declared on SA

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Originally by: Grimpak

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Originally by: Arnold Schwarzennegger

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Originally by: Angelhunter

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Not a big Fan of ASCN, but i am glad to see they didn't jump on the bandwagon. Good call guys!

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There is no bandwagon.

SA have declared on SE
SE have declared on SA
-V- have declared on SA
.5. have declared on SE
ASCN have declared on SA

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*ahem* we did not declared on SA. They just aren't welcome in our lands that's all...


...I think....

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Originally by: Arnold Schwarzennegger

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There is no bandwagon.

SA have declared on SE
SE have declared on SA
-V- have declared on SA
.5. have declared on SE
ASCN have declared on SA

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Originally by: Plazmalord Soban

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Hmmm backstabber to Xetic and now a Backstabber to his neighbors... Under ASCN care ...

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ALL SA Forces are hereby notified to STAY OUT of Feyth, Impass & Ominst. We ARE NOT claming OMIST and will happily return it to the ôwinnerö of this war. However for the time being consider the region under ASCN care.

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Originally by: Plazmalord Soban

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Hmmm backstabber to Xetic and now a Backstabber to his neighbors... Under ASCN care .... pfft. For someone that didnt want involved.... why the hell are ya ? Seems to me your EGO trippin again CYVOK. U need to chill and tend to your flock and stay out of this one since it doesnt much concern u. The People in SA Saw u guys as Allies and have always treated you and your people with respect. I especially have been nice to people From CLS ive encountered along the way. We have never wanted or had any reason to want anything to do with your space in Feyth with the exception of travel rights. Which if i understand was granted to us by you and or Alliance. Now here ya are sticking your nose in other Alliance affairs. We dont go sticking our noses in your Alliances or business... your wars are yours... How about letting us have ours and get the heck out of the place we call home. And try to leave that im mighter than god posting to someone who gives a crap.. This Battle is between Cujo and Trigger.

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Originally by: Hoozin

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And let slip ...


This has been a really weird day.

Oh yeah, isn't it called Omist?

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Originally by: Plazmalord Soban

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Hmmm backstabber to Xetic and now a Backstabber to his neighbors... Under ASCN care .... pfft. For someone that didnt want involved.... why the hell are ya ? Seems to me your EGO trippin again CYVOK. U need to chill and tend to your flock and stay out of this one since it doesnt much concern u. The People in SA Saw u guys as Allies and have always treated you and your people with respect. I especially have been nice to people From CLS ive encountered along the way. We have never wanted or had any reason to want anything to do with your space in Feyth with the exception of travel rights. Which if i understand was granted to us by you and or Alliance. Now here ya are sticking your nose in other Alliance affairs. We dont go sticking our noses in your Alliances or business... your wars are yours... How about letting us have ours and get the heck out of the place we call home. And try to leave that im mighter than god posting to someone who gives a crap.. This Battle is between Cujo and Trigger.

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Originally by: rMiss Lestat

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I remember ASCD screaming NAP with mass when they broke from XETIC.(a war which they started)
HMMM will you not learn??

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Originally by: Plazmalord Soban

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The People in SA Saw u guys as Allies and have always treated you and your people with respect.

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The People in SA Saw u guys as Allies and have always treated you and your people with respect.

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Originally by: Jovian Strain

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The People in SA Saw u guys as Allies and have always treated you and your people with respect.

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ROFL! We remember Feyt very well.

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Originally by: CYVOK

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The Ascendant Frontier has been in talks for 2 days with The5, FIX, & SE. NO ONE have been able to give us a straight answer on where they stand in the SA vs SE war.

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Originally by: HadHaFangs

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Im going to be blunt honest


I Dont give a rats rear about SA or SE in their current war. What i do care about is my corp.

Solar Winds has friends on both sides, and does not wish to fight either side.

How is ASCN going to handle the number of corps that moved to Omist to setup a claim out there. Is ASCN going to "Remove" them from the space they said they could inhabit just because of what MASS is doing.

As of right now SOLAR WIND IS NETURAL in the conflict and wishes to remain that way until otherwise stated

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Originally by: SeverusSnape

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Good to know there will be something to kill after we take care of se

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Originally by: Joshua Calvert

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What kind of NPC's are there in Omist?

Angels suck with this patch.

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Originally by: Destroyer Draxx

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Originally by: Jovian Strain

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The People in SA Saw u guys as Allies and have always treated you and your people with respect.

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ROFL! We remember Feyt very well.

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Clue : Thats were u earned our respect ;)

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Originally by: Steel Rat

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No where in our official statement do we say we are neutral. We have chosen not to take this beyond our borders and Omist.

<Gets out box of crayons for Torn>

For those of you textually challenged, you may view the follow pic created for Torn :)

Crayons 4tw

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Originally by: Steel Rat

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No where in our official statement do we say we are neutral. We have chosen not to take this beyond our borders and Omist.

<Gets out box of crayons for Torn>

For those of you textually challenged, you may view the follow pic created for Torn :)

Crayons 4tw

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So we've basically separated you both, spanked SA for being bad kids, and sent you to your room.

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Originally by: HadHaFangs

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Im going to be blunt honest


I Dont give a rats rear about SA or SE in their current war. What i do care about is my corp.

Solar Winds has friends on both sides, and does not wish to fight either side.

How is ASCN going to handle the number of corps that moved to Omist to setup a claim out there. Is ASCN going to "Remove" them from the space they said they could inhabit just because of what MASS is doing.

As of right now SOLAR WIND IS NETURAL in the conflict and wishes to remain that way until otherwise stated

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Originally by: FileCop AI

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Setting hostile standings and killing whereever spotted has nothing to do with being neutral and staying out of the conflict.
It is clear to the entire eve community, that ascn have declared their support to SE and thus war on SA.

However, we take this on gracefully. Once SE is dead, we will see if the situation with you will in fact be solved diplomatically, or if you're going to die to our guns just as SE.
Personally I hope for the first - I've earned respect in you guys over time. Even though your current actions made a cut on the popular-o-meter of mine ;)

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Originally by: Rodsauro

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From what I understand, this is being done so that all SA/SE fighting occurs where it should, in Stain. ASCN doesn't want to, literally, be in the middle of the fighting. Therefore by removing stations in Omist from the equation, we can hopefully avoid fighting either side.

Once again, this is just a personal view.

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Originally by: TornSoul

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Originally by: CYVOK

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The Ascendant Frontier has been in talks for 2 days with The5, FIX, & SE. NO ONE have been able to give us a straight answer on where they stand in the SA vs SE war.

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Hmm - What does that remind me of...
Oh yes - Trying to talk to ASCN

Guess the taste of your own medicine didnt taste so well.

I hope your unprecedented post (in as far as stating ASCN's intend), is a result of realizing that if you give people bull - You get back bull yourself (ie. no answers)

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Originally by: Nache1

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Edited by: Nache1 on 07/09/2005 07:55:28
hmm you wont let SA through your space to attack SE but you have SE in your gang to take the stations in Omist .





ASCN claim that it wasnt there fault that the southern treaty fell apart.

Now I have been back in game for a short time ( left the game for RL reasons ) and I have made my home in Omist , I had the upmost respect for ASCN up untill now . I have alot of friends in ASCN and SE . I have seen first hand how some ASCN corps treat there friends ( attacking corps in Omist a month ago ) and I have also seen how the rest of ASCN stand by there word . Well up untill now I have stayed by my word and not fired on ASCN untill today , you attack my home and make me -5 ? you hunt my corp and my friends to help your SE buddys ?

Thats all fine by me , just so we all know where you stand in this .
( this was my own views on this and not an offical statment of either Partera Tech or SA )

and yes I know I need to change my sig ..

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Originally by: Nache1

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Edited by: Nache1 on 07/09/2005 07:55:28
hmm you wont let SA through your space to attack SE but you have SE in your gang to take the stations in Omist .

Think some one in ASCN needs to state things right the way things are happening , not the way you want everyone else to see you as .

today I was shocked at what ASCN is doing . So after reading this whole post I now got the facts ..

1) ASCN are attacking SA support systems and claiming them .
2) ASCN are alowing SE through there space to attack SA support systems .
3) ASCN claim they will only hold Omist untill this SE/SA war is over .
4) ASCN claim that it wasnt there fault that the southern treaty fell apart .( at least you tryed to hold it together this long , thanks for trying )

Now I have been back in game for a short time ( left the game for RL reasons ) and I have made my home in Omist , I had the upmost respect for ASCN up untill now . I have alot of friends in ASCN and SE . I have seen first hand how some ASCN corps treat there friends ( attacking corps in Omist a month ago ) and I have also seen how the rest of ASCN stand by there word . Well up untill now I have stayed by my word and not fired on ASCN untill today , you attack my home and make me -5 ? you hunt my corp and my friends to help your SE buddys ?

Thats all fine by me , just so we all know where you stand in this .
( this was my own views on this and not an offical statment of either Partera Tech or SA )

and yes I know I need to change my sig ..

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Originally by: Seleene

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I think [5] deciding to side with MASS and SA has thrown a lot of people off guard...

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Originally by: Nache1

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Nothing against you CYVOK , but if you were only trying to get a message through to someone about a pos in your space thats all fine and dandy , but why then did your guys attack the other corps in Omist ? I know this for a fact sence I lost a megathron to 2 of your corp members in d2 !

maybe that wasnt made known to you , no idea .

Drop the SA tag so I can go back to my home ? it was a corp choice to join SA and help Trigger . Trigger has so far stood by all his friends ( for the short time I have known him ) in Omist . What do you do when a friend asks for your help ? you join them in there fight , then you sort out if you stay with SA or go back home to Omist .

We " cannon fodder " are more then holding our own in this fight to help a friend in need . that is all ... no more no less .

I hope this can be sorted by the higher ups before it gets to be to much bigger .I would like to stay friends with ASCN and not have them as targets . An attack is an attack no matter what size of force you use .

So we will see where this go's from here ..

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Originally by: Rod Blaine

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Originally by: Seleene

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I think [5] deciding to side with MASS and SA has thrown a lot of people off guard...

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I think it was the obvious and only choice tbh, but that's just my p.o.v., not BoB's take on it.

SE did abysmally against G and it seems high time that someone takes the broom through it. If we were to look on it purely utilitarian here, a weak alliance is of no use to anyone. Therefore, I am glad this war happened, let it trim off some fat and let's have the leaner and meaner SE/A back again.

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Originally by: Goberth Ludwig

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Originally by: Rod Blaine

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Originally by: Seleene

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I think [5] deciding to side with MASS and SA has thrown a lot of people off guard...

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I think it was the obvious and only choice tbh, but that's just my p.o.v., not BoB's take on it.

SE did abysmally against G and it seems high time that someone takes the broom through it. If we were to look on it purely utilitarian here, a weak alliance is of no use to anyone. Therefore, I am glad this war happened, let it trim off some fat and let's have the leaner and meaner SE/A back again.

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Still, I'd rather go for a weaker alliance than a backstabbing/ego ridden one any time...

Also, "no use" is big words for someone who was able to field impressively sized fleet imo.

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Originally by: Nache1

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It was a corp choice to join SA and help Trigger . Trigger has so far stood by all his friends ( for the short time I have known him ) in Omist . What do you do when a friend asks for your help ? you join them in there fight , then you sort out if you stay with SA or go back home to Omist .

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Originally by: Goberth Ludwig

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Originally by: Rod Blaine

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Originally by: Seleene

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I think [5] deciding to side with MASS and SA has thrown a lot of people off guard...

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I think it was the obvious and only choice tbh, but that's just my p.o.v., not BoB's take on it.

SE did abysmally against G and it seems high time that someone takes the broom through it. If we were to look on it purely utilitarian here, a weak alliance is of no use to anyone. Therefore, I am glad this war happened, let it trim off some fat and let's have the leaner and meaner SE/A back again.

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Still, I'd rather go for a weaker alliance than a backstabbing/ego ridden one any time...

Also, "no use" is big words for someone who was able to field impressively sized fleet imo.

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Originally by: BlackSabbath

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more like xetic backstabing xetic = ascn

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Originally by: Silvitni\
Backstabbing - Xetic - ASCN - nap [5

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Rings a bell?

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Originally by: HadHaFangs

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Im going to be blunt honest


I Dont give a rats rear about SA or SE in their current war. What i do care about is my corp.

Solar Winds has friends on both sides, and does not wish to fight either side.

How is ASCN going to handle the number of corps that moved to Omist to setup a claim out there. Is ASCN going to "Remove" them from the space they said they could inhabit just because of what MASS is doing.

As of right now SOLAR WIND IS NETURAL in the conflict and wishes to remain that way until otherwise stated

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Originally by: R'adeh

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Originally by: Silvitni\
Backstabbing - Xetic - ASCN - nap [5

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Rings a bell?

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Comon' dude, let it be good...why is it that somehow you guys manage to spam so many threads with comments like that over and over and over again? Since the whole affair doesn't really concern you, go to the pub for a beer and we'll see you up north in a while

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Originally by: Sick*****

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as far as i can see
1)SA posted an attack on SE.
2) 5 came along right after. (and we all know you wouldnt have the balls to attack anyone with out having 5 on your side way before the announcment)
3) after THE 5 picked a side ASCN picked a side.

now you running your mouth like you own everybody. lol

now for the fourth part it realy cames down to the 5 having to pick a side again, but knowing their reputation it seems clear.

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Originally by: Rod Blaine

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Edited by: Rod Blaine on 07/09/2005 08:14:37
ah nm, again.

You did make an interesting but highly dangerous choice here Cyvok, and the arrognace displayed by your members in this thread is not helping you either.

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Originally by: Joshua Calvert

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Originally by: Rod Blaine

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Edited by: Rod Blaine on 07/09/2005 08:14:37
ah nm, again.

You did make an interesting but highly dangerous choice here Cyvok, and the arrognace displayed by your members in this thread is not helping you either.

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I'm not seeing much arrogance in this thread. Just solid facts.

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Originally by: Blind Fear

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Generally, when trying to be a puppetmaster, it is considered good form not to wrap the strings around your neck and choke yourself.

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Originally by: Lord Randalf

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Now here's a little question out of the blue.
If SE have full support of all of theyr members then how come they have lost about 700 members since Stain Alliance was created?

Imho I think this was a very unwice decision of ASCN to take. Guess that we'll be seeing you guys on the battelfield flying with SE since you're "not taking any action" in this matter like said in you official post. You're all full of crap...

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Originally by: Rod Blaine

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SE did abysmally against G and it seems high time that someone takes the broom through it. If we were to look on it purely utilitarian here, a weak alliance is of no use to anyone.

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Originally by: Steel Rat

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Originally by: Lord Randalf

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Now here's a little question out of the blue.
If SE have full support of all of theyr members then how come they have lost about 700 members since Stain Alliance was created?

Imho I think this was a very unwice decision of ASCN to take. Guess that we'll be seeing you guys on the battelfield flying with SE since you're "not taking any action" in this matter like said in you official post. You're all full of crap...

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/me thinks you have problems reading and should view my crayon drawing.

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Originally by: Lord Randalf

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Now here's a little question out of the blue.
If SE have full support of all of theyr members then how come they have lost about 700 members since Stain Alliance was created?

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Originally by: Joshua Calvert

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Originally by: Rod Blaine

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Edited by: Rod Blaine on 07/09/2005 08:14:37
ah nm, again.

You did make an interesting but highly dangerous choice here Cyvok, and the arrognace displayed by your members in this thread is not helping you either.

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I'm not seeing much arrogance in this thread. Just solid facts.

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Originally by: CYVOK

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Current ASCN standings can be viewed at www.celestial-horizon.net/standings.htm

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Misc Enemey Corps
STANDING CORPORATION NAME TICKER DATE UPDATED JUSTIFICATION

-5.0 Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams FRICK 5-Sep-05 Pirates

KOS to ASCN
STANDING CORPORATION NAME TICKER DATE UPDATED JUSTIFICATION
-9.0 Body Count Inc. BDCI 5-Sep-05 Mercs
-9.0 North Star Networks NSN 5-Sep-05 Mercs
-9.0 The Corporation -TC- 5-Sep-05 Mercs

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Originally by: Nache1

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Would it not of been better to close all access to your space and let the fighers find a diffrent way to go to each others space ?

That would of been the better way to stay out of this fight

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Originally by: Kantar

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Intresting you put SE/SA on -5 and saying "dont come in our space etc but when you took the station you had Species in your rank ??

Why dont do the noble thing and come out in the open saying that you choose your side and thats it ?

And we having SE member thanking you for your support and you still saying we dont wanna choose any side ??

Just confusing but prolly thats EVE diplomacy....

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Originally by: Bared

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Theres an old quote by Hienrich Himmler: If you tell a lie big enough and often enough, eventualy the people will come to believe it.

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Originally by: Ithildin

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What are you doing in this thred, TornSoul, it's not about you nor about Fountain.

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Originally by: Ithildin

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And that also reminds me, Seleene, we shouldn't be in here, either. Let's go.

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Originally by: Ithildin

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And that also reminds me, Seleene, we shouldn't be in here, either. Let's go.

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Originally by: TornSoul

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Seleene does seem to have a (bad) thing for me lately... She basically called me a liar in that post of hers ya know... I'm letting it slip though... (I must be getting old...)

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Originally by: Seleene

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What about KIA, GHSC or Battle Angels? What about Contraband? This thread has a lot more evil people that are missing from your list as well.

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Originally by: Taz Devlin

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An interesting turn of events I'm sure.

Just to clarify...
I am now in Omist with most of my corp, and it seems that sticking around is not good for my health. Especially since the squatters have just about everyone here at -5.

So my question is this: Am I considered hostile in Omist and will I be shot at by the "caretakers" while leaving?

Oh, and I'd like to personally thank ASCN for "not" taking sides

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Originally by: Seleene

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What about KIA, GHSC or Battle Angels? What about Contraband? This thread has a lot more evil people that are missing from your list as well.

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Originally by: Kozak

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Originally by: Taz Devlin

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An interesting turn of events I'm sure.

Just to clarify...
I am now in Omist with most of my corp, and it seems that sticking around is not good for my health. Especially since the squatters have just about everyone here at -5.

So my question is this: Am I considered hostile in Omist and will I be shot at by the "caretakers" while leaving?

Oh, and I'd like to personally thank ASCN for "not" taking sides

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I got an option for you, seems better then the option given to us when Trigger backstabbed SE, !STAY DOCKED TILL THE CONFLICT IS OVER! I'm sure you can leave after the war is over.

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Originally by: danneh

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Respect ASCN, my favourite alliance!.

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Originally by: Taz Devlin

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I want to leave so I can shoot you, and I'd rather not shoot ASCN to get there.

PS: I have allways stated that I have high respect for Species, this is still the case. Under no circumstance will it be easy for me to shoot any of you SE guys. But I must admit that you are trying very hard(and succeeding I might add) to make it easy for me.

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Originally by: Amaron Ghant

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from ASCNs webby

"-5.0 Stain Alliance SA 5-Sep-05 WAR, we are supporting SE"

Neutral my hairy buttocks.

You saw an opportunity, you took it. Id have done the same thing. However please spare me the "It is with a heavy heart that ASCN make the following announcement." rubbish.

Call a spade, a spade.

Good luck and good hunting to both sides.

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Originally by: Kozak

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Originally by: Amaron Ghant

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from ASCNs webby

"-5.0 Stain Alliance SA 5-Sep-05 WAR, we are supporting SE"

Neutral my hairy buttocks.

You saw an opportunity, you took it. Id have done the same thing. However please spare me the "It is with a heavy heart that ASCN make the following announcement." rubbish.

Call a spade, a spade.

Good luck and good hunting to both sides.

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Isn't it kinda like MASS members saying "It is with a heavy heart that we have to shoot friends" (reffering to SE I believe). I really don't have a point, but am bored at work . Should have called in sick

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Originally by: Amaron Ghant

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Originally by: Kozak

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Originally by: Amaron Ghant

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from ASCNs webby

"-5.0 Stain Alliance SA 5-Sep-05 WAR, we are supporting SE"

Neutral my hairy buttocks.

You saw an opportunity, you took it. Id have done the same thing. However please spare me the "It is with a heavy heart that ASCN make the following announcement." rubbish.

Call a spade, a spade.

Good luck and good hunting to both sides.

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Isn't it kinda like MASS members saying "It is with a heavy heart that we have to shoot friends" (reffering to SE I believe). I really don't have a point, but am bored at work . Should have called in sick

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Not interested in "he said she said so i said" crap. Thats what involved half the world in 2 major wars.

I was merely pointing out that ASCN lied. Yep there it is, they lied. Prove to me im wrong and i shall go away a happy carebear.

Im definately NOT taking sides here, but come on, how can you support one side in a war and forbid the other side access to its hangers in occupied space whilst claiming neutrality?.

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Originally by: Krapz

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Originally by: Steel Rat

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No where in our official statement do we say we are neutral. We have chosen not to take this beyond our borders and Omist.

<Gets out box of crayons for Torn>

For those of you textually challenged, you may view the follow pic created for Torn :)

Crayons 4tw

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I <3 Steel.


Well, while taking MASS's 3rd and final station, I finally found some time to reply to this thread.

What an incredible flippin waste of time. Thx guys.

We had a deal, ppl are bending it to the point of breaking. I thought we were past the petty stuff. Small scale alliance warfare? What a waste of time and energy.

We played enough station ping pong already, I thought MASS already knew that. We let you go w/ a +5 after our last encounter so you could get your stuff out of our space.

So now you have chosen to attack another +5 friend of ours. And use our space to launch this offensive? All without our consent or even prior knowledge? Nice job.

You have violated our trust. You have violated our treaty. This would be no different had someone attacked FIX or -5-. This is in no way beneficial for the south. So we've basically separated you both, spanked SA for being bad kids, and sent you to your room.

This is NOT a civil war. MASS was a part of another alliance, and is now attacking SE with a new alliance. In my best Cujo impersonation, all I can say is "That dog just ain't gunna hunt."

No war in the south boys. War goes northward, not down here. It's lame, counterproductive, and just not cricket.

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The Ascendant Frontier has been in talks for 2 days with The5, FIX, & SE. NO ONE have been able to give us a straight answer on where they stand in the SA vs SE war. We have been lied to and given the distinct impression we are being played like puppets, we have not ever tolerated this type of crap, we are no ones puppets.

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Originally by: Kozak

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Maybe they just have a lot of friends in SE and would like to keep them. No matter what everyone on the outside says about SE, we are here for the long run and will be here for a while. We will defend our space to the bitter end. And, nobody really likes MASS, they only follow cause of some blind fear of some magic monkey or something or other. Blah, blah, blah. Funny how SE never asked for help agains SA when MASS was dragging everyone they new into this conflict. One alliance stands up for SE and they all cry like wittle babies. Shut up and fight.

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Originally by: Random

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Well i do understand this move from ASCN, they obviusly think that we (SA) are going to use the south as a lunchpad and a safe haven for the war against SE. They say they will give us back Omist when the true Emperor has his ars back on the throne.
They dont whant to be draged in to this conflickt and that is understandeble, they are atm giving there all to the industry to prep for the future and dont whant to be botherd by a warzone in ther hometurf, expecaly a station ping/pong betvene SA/SE in omist.

But my questions are these

1. Why didnt u give the few left in Omist a chanse to leve befor u maid us -5?

2. Why make us - and SE + knowing fully well that sum of your triggerhappyer members will acidentaly (or not) be outomaticly draged in to some scirmishesh with our fleets in the catch corridor and thus force us to take a stand vs's your members in the corridor (cuz we whont wait for your members to shoot first)

3. By this u rely think u whont be draged in to the conflickt?

I think ASCN shuld reconsider there possission on the mater for the timebeing and sett both SA/SE to a 0.0 standing and let us know that we (both partys) are not welcomed in ASCN space (incluting omist).

That is a strong move to stay neutral. But u my frineds and 1ns foes are forcing us to prey on u where ever we see u (altho i doupt we will use the ASCN protected space much).

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Originally by: Kozak

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Maybe they just have a lot of friends in SE and would like to keep them. No matter what everyone on the outside says about SE, we are here for the long run and will be here for a while. We will defend our space to the bitter end. And, nobody really likes MASS, they only follow cause of some blind fear of some magic monkey or something or other. Blah, blah, blah. Funny how SE never asked for help agains SA when MASS was dragging everyone they new into this conflict. One alliance stands up for SE and they all cry like wittle babies. Shut up and fight.

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Originally by: Ronja Mistysdottir

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To me, it seems a bit 'pre-planned' even if they claim 112 ships just happend to form up in like no-time.

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Originally by: Ronja Mistysdottir

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Regarding ASCN's rights to travel into SE space, well, when I delivered a couple of haulers of mexallon earlier to ESA I was informed that ASCN members will get set to -10 by CYVOK or Stealrat if they go anywhere in 0.0 space that have Sansha rats, and ain't catch. (as in, it ain't allowed)

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Originally by: Random

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1. Why didnt u give the few left in Omist a chanse to leve befor u maid us -5?

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Originally by: Waagaa Ktlehr

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Originally by: Seleene

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What about KIA, GHSC or Battle Angels? What about Contraband? This thread has a lot more evil people that are missing from your list as well.

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As long as they don't agress ASCN, we don't care.

I think that's about the reasoning you need.

You attacked us, you get set to -9.0. If another merc corp does something like that, big chance they get the same treatment. Until then they are irrelevant for the standings list.

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Originally by: Noveron

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Originally by: Waagaa Ktlehr

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Originally by: Seleene

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What about KIA, GHSC or Battle Angels? What about Contraband? This thread has a lot more evil people that are missing from your list as well.

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As long as they don't agress ASCN, we don't care.

I think that's about the reasoning you need.

You attacked us, you get set to -9.0. If another merc corp does something like that, big chance they get the same treatment. Until then they are irrelevant for the standings list.

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Errr... well, I think you werent here by then, but KIA was contracted to attack ASCN in empire before MC did.. so I guess Seleene is right in this case!! BAD KIA guys!! you killed my caracal!! ;P Well, anyways, I like them :**

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Originally by: Kozak

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Well, I'm on the East Coast, I usually play during EST times, after work if I don't have to put in overtime. So, if you haven't seen me, I don't blame, cause I have a life outside EVE, some nights, I go out.

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Originally by: Murphy

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I would just like to point out to everybody it's OMIST, Oscar Mike India Sierra Tango

Not Ominst, Omyst or any other variant I've seen.

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Originally by: Murphy

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I would just like to point out to everybody it's OMIST, Oscar Mike India Sierra Tango

Not Ominst, Omyst or any other variant I've seen.

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Originally by: MuthaTrucka

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Edited by: MuthaTrucka on 07/09/2005 16:18:54

Originally by: Murphy

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I would just like to point out to everybody it's OMIST, Oscar Mike India Sierra Tango

Not Ominst, Omyst or any other variant I've seen.

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Murph you 2 dolla ho. Did you ever think that English may not be a primary language? That maybe some people don't have a english Keyboard or that maybe they never Made it out of the 6th grade. Spelling is not important Comprehension is.

On the Note of Comprehension if anyone in this thread Fails to understand a statement instead of flaming it over and over, ask for it to be explained in little words. We can have Steel Rat break out the crayons for those of you that like pictures.

Where the heck is foyle? Its not a good Thread without popcorn, baby oil, and Foyle
I can't spell either, Stay in School Fool

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Originally by: Kozak

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Well, I'm on the East Coast, I usually play during EST times, after work if I don't have to put in overtime. So, if you haven't seen me, I don't blame, cause I have a life outside EVE, some nights, I go out. Anyway, If it's hard for you guys to understand what I am saying is that all we are doing on the forums is deffending ourself from your constant attacks making SE and Species look ebil. I have no idea why, I guess it's like before a big game, you need to hype youself up and make your opponents seem evil to you, so you won't hold anything back. Well, fine. But for us, invading our space is enough.

If you read my posts from when this started, they were very tame. But the contant attack against my alliance, my corp, and my CEO, firstly from MASS member then the rest of the Stain Allaince, really is getting to me. Sometimes I do mindless tasks at work and start browsing the forum. Reading this $hit makes me want to reply. Stop with the $**** slinging and I won't have to reply.

By attacking me more, I'll just keep replying. I'm stuck here at work for atleast another 9 hours. So keep it comming if you like.

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Originally by: TornSoul

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Originally by: CYVOK

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The Ascendant Frontier has been in talks for 2 days with The5, FIX, & SE. NO ONE have been able to give us a straight answer on where they stand in the SA vs SE war.

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Hmm - What does that remind me of...
Oh yes - Trying to talk to ASCN

Guess the taste of your own medicine didnt taste so well.

I hope your unprecedented post (in as far as stating ASCN's intend), is a result of realizing that if you give people bull - You get back bull yourself (ie. no answers)

Current conflicts aside - I hope this is a new trend for ASCN.

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Originally by: Prometheus Wrong

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There are plenty in ASCN with respect for those in SA corps. To see that respect reciprocated was and is honoring. Whatever comes of this, I hope that respect remains, and while egoes will no doubt make it difficult (we need more chicks in this game) this can be resolved diplomatically...after a ****load of shooting, killing and forum whoring I expect...but there's no reason we can't all be gentlemen about it.

<polishes his monocle> Yes, yes quite, yes...

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You remind me of Mindless person, George Bush was it? ye hes mindless so are you.

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Originally by: Seleene

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Edited by: Seleene on 07/09/2005 11:12:30

Originally by: Ithildin

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And that also reminds me, Seleene, we shouldn't be in here, either. Let's go.

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But.. But.. But... Yes, Mom.

Oh crap...

Originally by: TornSoul

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Seleene does seem to have a (bad) thing for me lately... She basically called me a liar in that post of hers ya know... I'm letting it slip though... (I must be getting old...)

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I have done no such thing, TS. If I was going to "basically" call you a liar, I'd actually call you a liar.

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Originally by: Shadow2004

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Herm though i have been a northener for most of my time and only resently joined ASCN. From what i could see when i first came down here evertying was sweet and the south was a good place to be so i hope everting sorts it self out soon and we can all go back to kicking the norths ass YARRR

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Originally by: CYVOK

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Seleene Frick are not actively mercing any more that is why they have a -5 instead a -9. We have faith that they have chosen a differant path ATM.

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Originally by: CYVOK

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Seleene Frick are not actively mercing any more that is why they have a -5 instead a -9. We have faith that they have chosen a differant path ATM.

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Originally by: Trakh Shardan

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THIS IS A PERSINAL POST

I must say Iv lostr all respect in ASCN U taking care of OUR region???
WTF is your probelem?

but anyways like I sayd U make me mad and if we are -5 I realy hope to see u die againg under the gunns of MASS..

THIS IS A PERSINAL POST

l8tr in space

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Originally by: CYVOK

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Their is no more useful "information" being posted in this topic.

MODS PLEASE LOCK, thank you.

Anyone needing diplomatic contact with ASCN can EvE mail or convo CYVOK, Steel Rat, Krapz or Murphy. Nothing is going to be solved in 3 min but we will make an effort to take positive action when appropriate, as quickly as possible.

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