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Darken Two
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Posted - 2005.09.07 09:32:00 -
[121]
 Originally by: Joshua Calvert
Originally by: Rod Blaine
Edited by: Rod Blaine on 07/09/2005 08:14:37
ah nm, again.
You did make an interesting but highly dangerous choice here Cyvok, and the arrognace displayed by your members in this thread is not helping you either.
I'm not seeing much arrogance in this thread. Just solid facts.
Josh how can you be so ignorant as to not know that only BoB ae allwed to make posts where arrogance masquerades as fact.
Ps. Not meant to **** you off Rod, just some of your other guys.
Originally by: Blind Fear
Generally, when trying to be a puppetmaster, it is considered good form not to wrap the strings around your neck and choke yourself.
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Lord Randalf
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Posted - 2005.09.07 09:34:00 -
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Now here's a little question out of the blue.
If SE have full support of all of theyr members then how come they have lost about 700 members since Stain Alliance was created?
Imho I think this was a very unwice decision of ASCN to take. Guess that we'll be seeing you guys on the battelfield flying with SE since you're "not taking any action" in this matter like said in you official post. You're all full of crap...
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Steel Rat
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Posted - 2005.09.07 09:37:00 -
[123]
Originally by: Lord Randalf
Now here's a little question out of the blue.
If SE have full support of all of theyr members then how come they have lost about 700 members since Stain Alliance was created?
Imho I think this was a very unwice decision of ASCN to take. Guess that we'll be seeing you guys on the battelfield flying with SE since you're "not taking any action" in this matter like said in you official post. You're all full of crap...
/me thinks you have problems reading and should view my crayon drawing.
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Gradinger
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Posted - 2005.09.07 09:40:00 -
[124]
Originally by: Rod Blaine
SE did abysmally against G and it seems high time that someone takes the broom through it. If we were to look on it purely utilitarian here, a weak alliance is of no use to anyone.
if somebody would have bothered to chk out our killboard and the 100+ shipkills in a few days (excl. pods, shuttles, noobships) the [G] propaganda woulndt have worked that well ;)
we lost 2 major battles, admitted, but this were just single battles and not the war - we had no time for more fun, cuz trigg thought its the right time to stab us in the back when we¦re in the north - nevertheless again i gotta express my respect for [G]
we know most ppl posting here got no clue about the actual battlefield...
a word to the "omist-guy" (sry too lazy to chk ur name or quote;)): if u think trigg is a friend just give it time and u¦ll see what a trustworthy friend he is :/
and yes ur killratio is astonishing: like 2 days ago when we killed 3 bs plus several support and lost one proph.. cannon fodder ftw.. (i think it wasnt ur corp - but u look all the same for me)
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Arud
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Posted - 2005.09.07 09:41:00 -
[125]
Originally by: Steel Rat
Originally by: Lord Randalf
Now here's a little question out of the blue.
If SE have full support of all of theyr members then how come they have lost about 700 members since Stain Alliance was created?
Imho I think this was a very unwice decision of ASCN to take. Guess that we'll be seeing you guys on the battelfield flying with SE since you're "not taking any action" in this matter like said in you official post. You're all full of crap...
/me thinks you have problems reading and should view my crayon drawing.
even if you will not fight in stain you are still getting involved in the conflict
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Bulzor
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Posted - 2005.09.07 09:43:00 -
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Does ASCN's puppet masters the [5] get a negative standing now (and vis versa)? Or are you two sorry excuses for alliances all still living happy-clappy NAP land?
No fan of ASCN but respect for doing the decent thing for once.
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Kerosene
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Posted - 2005.09.07 09:44:00 -
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You can't close your borders and claim partial neutrality as stated in the first post and then help take 3 stations. That's not being neutral, that's actively aggressing vs SA and friends. I really don't care who wins or loses this war but there are a lot of good people down south who are being shafted atm 
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Sionn Klorgh
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Posted - 2005.09.07 09:45:00 -
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My view on the situation...
Its really pretty simple but too many people want to crap on and overcomplicate it.
* ASCN and SE have a pact.
* MASS left SE to do their own thing when SE was at a lowpoint.
* The 'own thing' involved an attempted invasion of feyt where we lived as your former allies (hence the lack of trust).
* MASS settles for Omist in the end and founds the coalition and then SA.
Now, Mass comes back to claim they want the leadership back. The majority of SE says no but Mass decides to take it by force.
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Fire Lotus
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Posted - 2005.09.07 09:46:00 -
[129]
Originally by: Lord Randalf
Now here's a little question out of the blue.
If SE have full support of all of theyr members then how come they have lost about 700 members since Stain Alliance was created?
Umm hmm. I saw your freighter go by and scanned it. Dear Lord! dang thing was filled with pacifiers and lollipops. Take care of them and plenty of TLC you hear? Should've given us plenty of notice before the left so I could've started handing them care packages filled with cookies and milk.
*hands Stain Allaince a box of lemon scented t2 tissues imported from Jita*
See ya in the battlefield!
May the fleas of a thousand camels infest the crotch of the person that screws up your day and may thier arms be too short to scratch. |
Nache1
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Posted - 2005.09.07 09:49:00 -
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As you said ..
"You are standing by your allies, ASCN is standing by ours.
For this reason alone you and I should have some mutual understanding of the decesions made today and perhaps a bit of mutual respect."
I do respect you for that . But you have now picked a side by attacking with SE members in that fleet of yours in Omist .( Im still hoping this can be sorted )
Would it not of been better to close all access to your space and let the fighers find a diffrent way to go to each others space ?
That would of been the better way to stay out of this fight . Im just a fighter , but it would seem to me that this can be sorted right now if ASCN withdraw from Omist and close there borders to all travil to and from SE space and Omist space , that would fix things right now with no harm done I think . |
Kantar
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Posted - 2005.09.07 09:51:00 -
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Intresting you put SE/SA on -5 and saying "dont come in our space etc but when you took the station you had Species in your rank ??
Why dont do the noble thing and come out in the open saying that you choose your side and thats it ?
And we having SE member thanking you for your support and you still saying we dont wanna choose any side ??
Just confusing but prolly thats EVE diplomacy....
Anyway we will see I many SE op will come out of ASCN space and we will draw our own conclusion as well,
Intresting......
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Rod Blaine
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Posted - 2005.09.07 09:52:00 -
[132]
Edited by: Rod Blaine on 07/09/2005 09:54:07
Originally by: Joshua Calvert
Originally by: Rod Blaine
Edited by: Rod Blaine on 07/09/2005 08:14:37
ah nm, again.
You did make an interesting but highly dangerous choice here Cyvok, and the arrognace displayed by your members in this thread is not helping you either.
I'm not seeing much arrogance in this thread. Just solid facts.
Well, I regard the taking of Omyst as an arrogant step that is just the first step on a path to escalation of the conflict.
Had ASCN not done that, I'm sure it would all have ended with a 'happily ever after' and every big boy on the block keeping their people in check so as to not escalate the whole thing. As it is now, you push SA into a corner and force them to rally more support to their cause. I wonder how wise a move that was.
Oh, and that quote I did earlier from Krapz, don't tell me that wasn't arrogant. Ascn isn't the alliance to start "slapping" other alliances in the south and putting them on the right track like they are playing the regional headmaster or something. Simple things like that display of attitude put people on the wrong footing to start with.
All in all, this is turning out alot more hostile then it could have, and that makes it an escalation, which is worst of all for whom ? Right, ASCN.
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Elenia Kheynes
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Posted - 2005.09.07 10:23:00 -
[133]
I love the taste of ASCN forzen corpses in the morning, tastes like treachury.
I'd like to say, I love when things are complex like that 
Dear friendly customer... Can I have your money ?
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Seleene
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Posted - 2005.09.07 10:46:00 -
[134]
Originally by: CYVOK
Current ASCN standings can be viewed at www.celestial-horizon.net/standings.htm
^^ About this - Time out there, mister!
Quote:
Misc Enemey Corps
STANDING CORPORATION NAME TICKER DATE UPDATED JUSTIFICATION
-5.0 Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams FRICK 5-Sep-05 Pirates
KOS to ASCN
STANDING CORPORATION NAME TICKER DATE UPDATED JUSTIFICATION
-9.0 Body Count Inc. BDCI 5-Sep-05 Mercs
-9.0 North Star Networks NSN 5-Sep-05 Mercs
-9.0 The Corporation -TC- 5-Sep-05 Mercs
Pirates who kill indiscriminately are more fluffy and lovable than mercs?! Verone and Shamis are going to have to gank more ASCN miners I guess... 
Anyway, FRICK are no longer pirates. They haven't been for some time now. I'm sure they would like a -9.0 standing along with the rest of us evil mercs. 
What about KIA, GHSC or Battle Angels? What about Contraband? This thread has a lot more evil people that are missing from your list as well. 
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TornSoul
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Posted - 2005.09.07 10:47:00 -
[135]
Originally by: Nache1
Would it not of been better to close all access to your space and let the fighers find a diffrent way to go to each others space ?
That would of been the better way to stay out of this fight
Pure deja vu for me that one 
(aka - I tried that argument with ASCN before)
Originally by: Kantar
Intresting you put SE/SA on -5 and saying "dont come in our space etc but when you took the station you had Species in your rank ??
Why dont do the noble thing and come out in the open saying that you choose your side and thats it ?
And we having SE member thanking you for your support and you still saying we dont wanna choose any side ??
Just confusing but prolly thats EVE diplomacy....
Oh no - Thats *ASCN diplomacy* (and err.. logic) at it's finest.
See above quote as well.
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ASCN has this twisted kind of logic - Where you apparently can be neutral, but yet support one side (by allowing them access and what not to their space).
It's truly a miracle of logic.
And I can assure you that ASCN will keep maintaining that they *are* neutral regardless.
We've already played that song once remember.
Originally by: Bared
Theres an old quote by Hienrich Himmler: If you tell a lie big enough and often enough, eventualy the people will come to believe it.
BIG Lottery
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Taz Devlin
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Posted - 2005.09.07 10:51:00 -
[136]
An interesting turn of events I'm sure.
Just to clarify...
I am now in Omist with most of my corp, and it seems that sticking around is not good for my health. Especially since the squatters have just about everyone here at -5.
So my question is this: Am I considered hostile in Omist and will I be shot at by the "caretakers" while leaving?
Oh, and I'd like to personally thank ASCN for "not" taking sides 
Fly with us!
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Ithildin
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Posted - 2005.09.07 10:55:00 -
[137]
What are you doing in this thred, TornSoul, it's not about you nor about Fountain. Haven't you read the forum rules? This thred is going straigth into the abysmal flames without your help.
And that also reminds me, Seleene, we shouldn't be in here, either. Let's go.
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TornSoul
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Posted - 2005.09.07 11:08:00 -
[138]
Originally by: Ithildin
What are you doing in this thred, TornSoul, it's not about you nor about Fountain.
I'm pretty sure I didnt mention FA anywhere, but instead ASCN so...
But to answer your question : I'm here because ASCN once again is (trying) to pull their 'neutrality' crock.
Originally by: Ithildin
And that also reminds me, Seleene, we shouldn't be in here, either. Let's go.
Seleene does seem to have a (bad) thing for me lately... She basically called me a liar in that post of hers ya know... I'm letting it slip though... (I must be getting old...)
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Seleene
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Posted - 2005.09.07 11:09:00 -
[139]
Edited by: Seleene on 07/09/2005 11:12:30
Originally by: Ithildin
And that also reminds me, Seleene, we shouldn't be in here, either. Let's go.
But.. But.. But... Yes, Mom. 
Oh crap...
Originally by: TornSoul
Seleene does seem to have a (bad) thing for me lately... She basically called me a liar in that post of hers ya know... I'm letting it slip though... (I must be getting old...)
I have done no such thing, TS. If I was going to "basically" call you a liar, I'd actually call you a liar.
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Weebear
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Posted - 2005.09.07 11:10:00 -
[140]
Originally by: Seleene
What about KIA, GHSC or Battle Angels? What about Contraband? This thread has a lot more evil people that are missing from your list as well.
None of which have repeatedly declared war or taken contracts against us yet :P
This thread appears to be going down hill pretty rapid.
If the gangs flying around ever reflect the political views of all parties who have declared their stance there will be some pretty interesting fights out there.
People in the same gang firing at each other, firing at the opposite fleet, and some people just not firing at all :P
The diplomacy table in this forum is going to have to migrate to some sort of crayon based solution. |
CEO Rockhound
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Posted - 2005.09.07 11:13:00 -
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Edited by: CEO Rockhound on 07/09/2005 11:13:56
Hi again.
0 = bOb
A = ASCN
Kind of MAP
O SE 5 5 5
O SE A 5 5
O SE A SA
SA want to fight SE, and A is in the way..
O SE 5 5 5
O SE A 5 5
O SA A SA
A cleans the board a little
O SE 5 5 5
O SE A 5 5
O SA A A
and the pieces can move.. Only thing is, SE and SA can't do theire fighting in areas marked by A
O SE 5 5 5
O SA A 5 5
O SA A A
O SA 5 5 5
O SE A 5 5
O SA A A
O SE 5 5 5
O SE A 5 5
O SA A A
and when there is a winner, we get either :
O SE 5 5 5
O SE A 5 5
O SE A SE
OR
O SA 5 5 5
O SA A 5 5
O SA A SA
How hard is that to understand??
Norsk Gruvedrift.
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NAFnist
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Posted - 2005.09.07 11:15:00 -
[142]
This is getting more and more interesting.
Some siding with SE some with SA, how much will they be involved? Will they fight eachother?
All these answers and more, on the next hourglass of my sandchildren episode.
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Kozak
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Posted - 2005.09.07 11:20:00 -
[143]
Originally by: Taz Devlin
An interesting turn of events I'm sure.
Just to clarify...
I am now in Omist with most of my corp, and it seems that sticking around is not good for my health. Especially since the squatters have just about everyone here at -5.
So my question is this: Am I considered hostile in Omist and will I be shot at by the "caretakers" while leaving?
Oh, and I'd like to personally thank ASCN for "not" taking sides
I got an option for you, seems better then the option given to us when Trigger backstabbed SE, !STAY DOCKED TILL THE CONFLICT IS OVER! I'm sure you can leave after the war is over.
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Hyki Lomo
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Posted - 2005.09.07 11:28:00 -
[144]
First STK!
o/
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Sku1ly
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Posted - 2005.09.07 11:30:00 -
[145]
/me stabs Hyki.
REAL First STK.
o/
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Waagaa Ktlehr
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Posted - 2005.09.07 11:42:00 -
[146]
Originally by: Seleene
What about KIA, GHSC or Battle Angels? What about Contraband? This thread has a lot more evil people that are missing from your list as well.
As long as they don't agress ASCN, we don't care.
I think that's about the reasoning you need.
You attacked us, you get set to -9.0. If another merc corp does something like that, big chance they get the same treatment. Until then they are irrelevant for the standings list.
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Taz Devlin
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Posted - 2005.09.07 11:43:00 -
[147]
Originally by: Kozak
Originally by: Taz Devlin
An interesting turn of events I'm sure.
Just to clarify...
I am now in Omist with most of my corp, and it seems that sticking around is not good for my health. Especially since the squatters have just about everyone here at -5.
So my question is this: Am I considered hostile in Omist and will I be shot at by the "caretakers" while leaving?
Oh, and I'd like to personally thank ASCN for "not" taking sides
I got an option for you, seems better then the option given to us when Trigger backstabbed SE, !STAY DOCKED TILL THE CONFLICT IS OVER! I'm sure you can leave after the war is over.
I want to leave so I can shoot you, and I'd rather not shoot ASCN to get there.
PS: I have allways stated that I have high respect for Species, this is still the case. Under no circumstance will it be easy for me to shoot any of you SE guys. But I must admit that you are trying very hard(and succeeding I might add) to make it easy for me.
Fly with us!
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PhalHell
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Posted - 2005.09.07 11:57:00 -
[148]
Edited by: PhalHell on 07/09/2005 12:00:14
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danneh
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Posted - 2005.09.07 12:16:00 -
[149]
Respect ASCN, my favourite alliance!.
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pardux
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Posted - 2005.09.07 12:19:00 -
[150]
Originally by: danneh
Respect ASCN, my favourite alliance!.
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