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Malka Badi'a
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Posted - 2005.09.20 18:29:00 -
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Edited by: Malka Badi''a on 20/09/2005 18:31:20
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I wish people like you would engage your brain before you do irreparable damage to the game as a whole
So showing new players that there is capability in EVE to break the laws of CONCORD and step beyond typical gameplay that every other MMORPG suffers from is a bad thing? Showing newer players that with enough dedication, planning, and sense of fun you can bend the very galaxy of EVE to your will is something to be looked down upon?
Yes, it was mass slaughter, which I support, and it might indeed drive away a few new people. But I would rather watch those people leave EVE, those who feel a game should be completely linear and immobile in it's function, and keep the people who found it exciting and awe inspiring (not of the players, but also the capability of what was happening). Bring those with potiential and flexible capability into EVE for the betterment of the game overall and let those who want linear storylines and rules find an MMORPG that fits them best.
You can insult him all you would like, or you could show the "newer players" who are "at risk" that while there are those who would commit such crimes.. there are also those who would defend the galaxy against them. That, perhaps, would be more rookie inspiring than flaming on the forums.
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nitr0s
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Posted - 2005.09.20 18:35:00 -
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Originally by: Miz Cenuij
"So empire is one big tutorial/recouping ground then?"
NOT ANYMORE IT ISNT.
Empire = carebear killing fields from now on :)
GM Swoosh did indeed become involved, but it was demonstrated that no game mechanics were being abused and as such no exploit was being used on my part.
Iam and will remain an unpstanding member of the Eve universe, defending the rights of the criminal element which Concord treats with such unwarranted biased and unfounded hate.
Take note gentalmen. This is what happens to children, who's parents dont love them.
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Deja Thoris
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Posted - 2005.09.20 18:37:00 -
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Originally by: Hexxa
Edited by: Hexxa on 20/09/2005 10:25:09
Edited by: Hexxa on 20/09/2005 10:19:43
Nowhere should be safe?
Ok so were do you suggest the none PvP faction of this game go?
Or shall we turn it into another "Lineage 2 it's a pvp game, suck it up or GTFO" kinda game where people are leaving in droves.
High sec space is there for a reason, why on earth would they allow low sec pirates into there space?
Nothing you have done Miz is comendable or in anyway honorable, yeah fight the man thats cool but leave the new players alone, or in 6-8 months be playing a dead game.
EVE mirrors real life. There is security but sometimes a lunatic (meant in a nice way ) gets out and goes on a rampage.
Thats the freedom that EVE gives. If you want to be safe, dont undock.
If you dont like the open ended freedom - leave. Don't beg for a watered down version of the game we love.
(or as some ppl would say - stfu carebear)
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Dryxonedes Sae
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Posted - 2005.09.20 18:44:00 -
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I'm not above bending the laws of CONCORD myself on occasion, but i do admit i never would have the ******* to do this. For those against it, like has been said, take this as the wake up call that nowhere is out of reach, like reality, when someone wants to get to you, there are always ways, nothing is 100% secure. Before the gate sentries and concord went nuts, piracy was easy, wherever, whenever. Then piracy got nerfed. Now, like so many people are being told in so many damned threads, people like miz are ADAPTING. Welcome to EVE, it evolves, as do those who play it. Don't like his tactics? Stay hidden in the station when he comes in system, it's about your only security. That is until some madman finds a way to destroy a station.....
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Jex Jast
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Posted - 2005.09.20 18:47:00 -
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Originally by: nitr0s
Originally by: Miz Cenuij
"So empire is one big tutorial/recouping ground then?"
NOT ANYMORE IT ISNT.
Empire = carebear killing fields from now on :)
GM Swoosh did indeed become involved, but it was demonstrated that no game mechanics were being abused and as such no exploit was being used on my part.
Iam and will remain an unpstanding member of the Eve universe, defending the rights of the criminal element which Concord treats with such unwarranted biased and unfounded hate.
Take note gentalmen. This is what happens to children, who's parents dont love them.
THAT is a direct flame. Shut your damn mouth.
Anyways, sounds extremely interesting. I'm based right near Jita so I'd like to see the next time it happens. This is perfectly acceptable game play and I agree that if a few new players quit because they don't think someone should be able to kill them yet, that's an acceptable loss. Miz made this game very exciting for a group of people who were caught by surprise at something like this, and I find no problem with it.
I must say though that this had better not make CONCORD stronger/more gates/all those other things that were put in place to protect those who want to play the best mining/trade simulator in the world.
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PSA1SWIPE
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Posted - 2005.09.20 18:52:00 -
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Miz Cenuij is my hero he one crazy sob. :) The other day i caught him in station playing playing the old game russian roullet with modfied blaster. Sry for the poor bloke who lost though tbh
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Arrgs
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Posted - 2005.09.20 19:25:00 -
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You show them damn carebears Miz!!!
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RabbidFerret
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Posted - 2005.09.20 19:33:00 -
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Edited by: RabbidFerret on 20/09/2005 19:33:23
First off, I see some moderate anger issues directed towards these "carebears" that have yet to do anything to you except keep the market stable. The same market that provides you with anything you need, without it your life would be alot harder.
Second: The closest thing I cna compare you to is a terrorist. Killing innocent pilots because you believe it will force someone into following demands that cant be met. Concord is not going to open its space to pirates like you, if anything it will only raise its security. Concord's surrender is a joke, you killed 0.0025% of the current users playing on that night, near nothing. More pilots and money are lost to NPC rats in a 0.7 sec system everyday. You dont see Concord surrendering to them do you?
Pirates know that when they perform pirate activities knowing that thier empire travel rights will be stripped. Its been like that for years, stomping on a few newbies will get you nowhere closer to a change.
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Galk
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Posted - 2005.09.20 19:46:00 -
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Originally by: xOm3gAx
Originally by: Nerava
Edited by: Nerava on 20/09/2005 09:10:25
Originally by: ASIV TRE
Ummm insuring aship then giving it to someone else and then ejecting from said ship invalidates the insurance doesnt it?
Also did anyone else actually see you do this?, coz a while ago someone else claimed they did this and it turned out they made it all up to some how look big on the forums
Yea i can vouche for him, i just entered the system when i saw the concord warning Miz, lucky i was JUST outside of his killing range, i was carrying 3 implants to sell and was in a rookie ship
Quick question, as this has always bothered me, when m0o camped Yulai, and proved high sec was not safe for no-one, did the 4 intervene because it was not how it was supposed to be? or because there was no-way to stop them and the noobies were getting trampled on?
Did they only react beacause people complained? and they risked loseing alot of people?
Cheers (sorry for high-jacking) 
A) it was zombie corp
b) they exploited game mechanics
C) the gm's banned them after repetative warnings to cease
other then that i have no info bout it but the vid is up in the eve-video section somewhere. no doubt m0o put them up to it though ;)
He talks of the Mara/Pasari situation.
Complety different situation.
Basicaly Moo grabbed the game by the balls from the start, knew where to hit and effectively split the map in two with a simple blockade.
Due to what are now considerd exploits.. and certain mods, ubber dmg mod stacking for example... they were able to pull it off what is still considerd to be one of eves greatest feats.
At the time nobody could realy break it effectively, so hence the 4.............
The only time im aware of that the devs/gm's have ever taken such action....?
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Oblique
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Posted - 2005.09.20 19:46:00 -
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HaHaHa... lol.
Die noob, DIE!
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corporal hicks
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Posted - 2005.09.20 19:51:00 -
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Personnally i say you should be able to take out concord with a resonable size fleet and the sentry guns on gates, having them as uber as they are makes no logical sense ingame, no friggin police squad and some sentry guns should be able to withstand the firepower of a 50 man bs fleet or something like that. just my 2 cents, gj Miz.
" Stay Frosty "
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xOm3gAx
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Posted - 2005.09.20 21:03:00 -
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Edited by: xOm3gAx on 20/09/2005 21:06:58
(edit) thats actually one i wasnt aware of galk =) the only time i knew of this happening on a large scale when the devs/gms got involved was with zombie corp, but it does explain the confusion between my post and his (/edit)
Originally by: Spaja Saist
Please tell me again what this was supposed to accomplish?
It seems all you managed to do was kill new players and possible cause them to quit.
People like you equate empire with carebears. Well sorry to burst you bubble but this is not always the case. Many are there simple because they are new to the game and are still getting their feet wet. Others are there because the corp they belong to has an empire presence. And finally some are there just to buy stuff so they can head out to low sec again.
I wish people like you would engage your brain before you do irreparable damage to the game as a whole. All you are going to accomplish is making empire space even more secure.
All you griefers really need to grow a pair and pick on people who can fight back.
Dude he's role playing get over it. Though I personally tend to avoid empire combat I do commend the fact that he is role playing the title of a true pirate. And seriously man no space is supposed to be safe this is something that is well known and IS a fact that is supported by the gm's and the dev's. Risk and Reward currently the rewards in empire space are far greater then the risk and that is something that has needed a nerfing for quite some time. Its not like he is actually in a real noob area as those are (correct me if im wrong) the 1.0 systems each respective empire starts in, besides its not like he taking over the system and he is obviously limiting what he does to a few meger battleships, which even after losing them and gaining the full insurance pay outs LOSES isk and quite a substantial amount of it.
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Ok who nerf batted my sig >again<?
*^^Bows^^* ^^ALL HAIL THE UBERNESS OF Thee^^
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Bozl1n
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Posted - 2005.09.20 22:54:00 -
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and when I work out how to make a proper video from it
I'll sort that 4 u m8, just fix ur dam msn file problem
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Lo3d3R
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Posted - 2005.09.20 23:09:00 -
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nice action allot better read then the usuall self proclaimed "populair" pirate threads from certain corps.
~more of these attacks!!!~
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Gwindor
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Posted - 2005.09.21 01:04:00 -
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Great Job! Nothing less excpected from Miz. Nice to see you taking matters into your own hands.
-Gwindor
A.k.a Grim the crazy
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P1rate Dave
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Posted - 2005.09.21 01:46:00 -
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fight the power miz !
rawr
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LJSilver
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Posted - 2005.09.21 03:11:00 -
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Can Orvolle be next? The Placid Armageddon/SB market needs some love.
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Miz Cenuij
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Posted - 2005.09.21 05:53:00 -
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So many pir8s, murderer's and general scum of the universe posting on 1 thread !
Take notice Concord, your time has come. The tidal wave of revolt is rising and it is formed from the blood of the empire inbreds you protect.
Consider this your 6 day warning.
As we speak my slaves are purchasing, moving and building the equipment to bring JITA to its knees.
Submit to the will of the people you facist scum, allow citizens with a criminal record into empire within this time or face countless more deaths.
"Men are going to die..
and im going to kill them". |
Kumq uat
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Posted - 2005.09.21 06:45:00 -
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Our corp was getting ready to make a big transport run into 0.0. As we prepared to embark one of our guys wanders into the system and on TS I hear
"What the hell is goin on? Dude! Some guy just blew up a bunch of newbs!"
So yes, yes he did heh
Tired of mining the same looking rock for thousands of hours you care bear you? www.freeallegiance.org |
ASIV TRE
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Posted - 2005.09.21 08:00:00 -
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Originally by: Miz Cenuij
So many pir8s, murderer's and general scum of the universe posting on 1 thread !
Take notice Concord, your time has come. The tidal wave of revolt is rising and it is formed from the blood of the empire inbreds you protect.
Consider this your 6 day warning.
As we speak my slaves are purchasing, moving and
building the equipment to bring JITA to its knees.
Submit to the will of the people you facist scum, allow citizens with a criminal record into empire within this time or face countless more deaths.
lol, i bet everyone in Jita is really scared now.
But heres an idea for you how about we get rid of concord in 0.5-1.0 and make it like 0.1-0.4?
That way most of the so called carebears will quit eve, and you wont actually have anyone to shoot at anymore good idea?
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Sector 9
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Posted - 2005.09.21 08:00:00 -
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Edited by: Sector 9 on 21/09/2005 08:01:57
Sounds pretty simple to me.. If you don't want to take the chance of being shot down or killed in a game... The go play a game that doesn't support PVP.
What's so hard about that to understand?
I'm not a rat, but you guys go give them hell and damn the concequences
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Princess Beefcurtains
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Posted - 2005.09.21 08:14:00 -
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Originally by: Miz Cenuij
Tonight I flew into this central hub trading system along with my slave boy. I arrived with 8 geddons, an indy full of large smartbombs and the firm intention of sending Concord and the empire scum they protect straight to hell.
Over the next 1.5 hours over 33 pilots lost thier ships and/or pods in this "safe" 0.9 Concord ridden system.
These sensless deaths could have been avoided if Concord had submited to my demands for the gates of empire to be opened to the criminal element of the Eve universe.
However despite thier failed attempts to cease these attacks on thier flock of carebears, they refused to submit to my demands, as such THEY are responsible for these deaths.
Unless a representitive from the filth that is Concord contacts me to discuss terms for thier surrender I will continue to return to secure systems and murder thier lowlife inbred inhabitants.
KILL A COP, SAVE A PIR8 FROM JAIL.
NB: no exploit was used in the above actions as verified a GM at the time.
Gratz: EVE now has its 1st committed suicide bomber  Gotta say that, as funneh as it might seem to you, its pretty fekking pointless which is why its no exploit... Oh well, do what yeh like I guess, t'is only a game... all I can say is thank christ Al Quaida dont have a cloning station...
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Sector 9
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Posted - 2005.09.21 09:17:00 -
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Another note of interest is the humour I find in how it is that revolutionists are referred to as terrorists until they win. Then they are patriotic.
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Nexus1972
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Posted - 2005.09.21 09:22:00 -
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Edited by: Nexus1972 on 21/09/2005 09:22:34
I look forward to lots of alt podding him after concord are done with him.
Seriously, why dont CCP implement a system whereby after the pirate kills someone in empire, they lose their pod protection from concord for 24 hours.
So then you will get one kill, but if you persist then concord will pod kill the pirate.
Alternatively how about if you kill someone in empire that concord throw you in jail for 24 hrs of eve-time?
In real-life the police wouldnt ram someone off the road only to release them to go and get in another car - they would arrest you - why dont concord with all their power just hold the pirates/podkill/kick them out of system and prevent them returning for a set period of time?
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xOm3gAx
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Posted - 2005.09.21 09:22:00 -
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Originally by: Sector 9
Another note of interest is the humour I find in how it is that revolutionists are referred to as terrorists until they win. Then they are patriotic.
/signed
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Ok who nerf batted my sig >again<?
*^^Bows^^* ^^ALL HAIL THE UBERNESS OF Thee^^
Succumb to your nightmares
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Princess Beefcurtains
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Posted - 2005.09.21 09:52:00 -
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Originally by: Sector 9
Another note of interest is the humour I find in how it is that revolutionists are referred to as terrorists until they win. Then they are patriotic.
Like I said, t'is just a game mate: if it where rl this would be terrorism killing people in rl is wrong no matter how you try to justify it. As its just a game I guess its k to find it amusing
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Lifewire
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Posted - 2005.09.21 10:02:00 -
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Zombies didnŠt exploit. GM came and said they should stop farming. Zombies didnŠt want to stop.
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Malken
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Posted - 2005.09.21 10:27:00 -
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nice going Miz
i assume they didnt want to pay the toll in MIZ-Oursalert
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Charabis Anputeti
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Posted - 2005.09.21 10:52:00 -
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Well this certainly explains a lot. Thankfully, I was just passing through when this happened, so avoided all the "fun". Anyway, here's my thoughts.
If you attack someone in high security, you should not only be allowed to be attacked, but pod killed as well. Additionally, ships lost while in a system where Concord is on you should receive no insurance money. What intelligent insurance agent is going to approve a payout to someone who would be deemed a terrorist in the target empire?
With that said, I'm impressed Still think there should have been the stiffer penalties I mentioned above, but it is only a game, so does not necessarily mirror real life.
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Xardrix
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Posted - 2005.09.21 10:57:00 -
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Originally by: Deja Thoris
Originally by: Hexxa
Edited by: Hexxa on 20/09/2005 10:25:09
Edited by: Hexxa on 20/09/2005 10:19:43
Nowhere should be safe?
Ok so were do you suggest the none PvP faction of this game go?
Or shall we turn it into another "Lineage 2 it's a pvp game, suck it up or GTFO" kinda game where people are leaving in droves.
High sec space is there for a reason, why on earth would they allow low sec pirates into there space?
Nothing you have done Miz is comendable or in anyway honorable, yeah fight the man thats cool but leave the new players alone, or in 6-8 months be playing a dead game.
EVE mirrors real life. There is security but sometimes a lunatic (meant in a nice way) gets out and goes on a rampage.
Thats the freedom that EVE gives. If you want to be safe, dont undock.
If you dont like the open ended freedom - leave. Don't beg for a watered down version of the game we love.
(or as some ppl would say - stfu carebear)
I agree completely. In Real Life, anyone can kill anyone else, as long as they are willing to make the Ultimate Sacrifice. Miz demonstrated this 8 seperate times, and due to the poddings, will probably not see 1.0 space for quite some time.
As an Amarrian loyalist, I will have to condemn your actions, however, I will (OOC) honor you for that demonstration that nothing is safe or sacred. If there were an actual place that people could go to be COMPLETELY safe, I would close (all) my account(s) and go play something else.
If this demonstration makes people quit, then they weren't ready for EVE in the first place.
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