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Miz Cenuij	Posted - 2005.09.20 01:59:00 - [1] Tonight I flew into this central hub trading system along with my slave boy. I arrived with 8 geddons, an indy full of large smartbombs and the firm intention of sending Concord and the empire scum they protect straight to hell. Over the next 1.5 hours over 33 pilots lost thier ships and/or pods in this "safe" 0.9 Concord ridden system. These sensless deaths could have been avoided if Concord had submited to my demands for the gates of empire to be opened to the criminal element of the Eve universe. However despite thier failed attempts to cease these attacks on thier flock of carebears, they refused to submit to my demands, as such THEY are responsible for these deaths. Unless a representitive from the filth that is Concord contacts me to discuss terms for thier surrender I will continue to return to secure systems and murder thier lowlife inbred inhabitants. KILL A COP, SAVE A PIR8 FROM JAIL. NB: no exploit was used in the above actions as verified a GM at the time. "Men are going to die.. and im going to kill them".
Sythra	Posted - 2005.09.20 02:03:00 - [2] So you killed a bunch of defenseless, weak, citizens for no reason? Congratulations.
Malka Badi'a	Posted - 2005.09.20 02:05:00 - [3] Well done. The rebellion that has been lurking in the shadows for so long can still show it's face to remind the galaxy in one violent thrust that yes.... you are only as safe as we allow you to be. --------------
Vaevectia	Posted - 2005.09.20 02:06:00 - [4] Originally by: Miz Cenuij Tonight I flew into this central hub trading system along with my slave boy. I arrived with 8 geddons, an indy full of large smartbombs and the firm intention of sending Concord and the empire scum they protect straight to hell. Over the next 1.5 hours over 33 pilots lost thier ships and/or pods in this "safe" 0.9 Concord ridden system. These sensless deaths could have been avoided if Concord had submited to my demands for the gates of empire to be opened to the criminal element of the Eve universe. However despite thier failed attempts to cease these attacks on thier flock of carebears, they refused to submit to my demands, as such THEY are responsible for these deaths. Unless a representitive from the filth that is Concord contacts me to discuss terms for thier surrender I will continue to return to secure systems and murder thier lowlife inbred inhabitants. KILL A COP, SAVE A PIR8 FROM JAIL. NB: no exploit was used in the above actions as verified a GM at the time. So you lost 8 geddons to kill what... condors and cruisers? Grats, I guess.
Nero Scuro	Posted - 2005.09.20 02:11:00 - [5] Excellent. Give 'em hell. _________ Ours is not to reason why, Ours is for stupid mission ***rers to *** in all day
Miz Cenuij	Posted - 2005.09.20 02:18:00 - [6] The attacks were timed and spotted by my slave boy, 8 of the kills were indies, a couple with what is considered expensive l00t. Also of the 9 pods killed, some no doubt had implants... Not to mention the trauma that the families of those who fell in todays attacks must feel at the loss they face. All this was could have been avoided if the filth had submitted to my demands. More attacks are planned for tomorrow and will continue in such fashion until the gates are opened to me and my brethen. "Men are going to die.. and im going to kill them".
Vaevectia	Posted - 2005.09.20 02:20:00 - [7] Originally by: Miz Cenuij The attacks were timed and spotted by my slave boy, 8 of the kills were indies, a couple with what is considered expensive l00t. Also of the 9 pods killed, some no doubt had implants... Not to mention the trauma that the families of those who fell in todays attacks must feel at the loss they face. All this was could have been avoided if the filth had submitted to my demands. More attacks are planned for tomorrow and will continue in such fashion until the gates are opened to me and my brethen. So in otherwords, if we want to kill a foolish squad of RPers, go to Oursalert?
Trey Azagthoth	Posted - 2005.09.20 02:48:00 - [8] Wow, remind me to care sometime. Ever heard of Zombie Inc.? Been done before, nothing new.
Mr Floppyknickers	Posted - 2005.09.20 02:51:00 - [9] Still would like to have seen it, probably would have giggled my self outta my chair!
Deja Thoris	Posted - 2005.09.20 03:07:00 - [10] Theres cheaper and smarter ways to achieve the same effect.
Remedial	Posted - 2005.09.20 03:31:00 - [11] LOL I AM SO WITTY IN REPLYING TO A ROLEPLAYER WITH JADED CYNICISM THAT SHOWS HOW COOL I AM IN AN ONLINE ROLEPLAYING GAME
Sythra	Posted - 2005.09.20 04:46:00 - [12] Originally by: Remedial LOL I AM SO WITTY IN REPLYING TO A ROLEPLAYER WITH JADED CYNICISM THAT SHOWS HOW COOL I AM IN AN ONLINE ROLEPLAYING GAME Yes, and replying in mock AOL chat room fashion is the height of originality.
Remedial	Posted - 2005.09.20 05:24:00 - [13] Originally by: Sythra Originally by: Remedial LOL I AM SO WITTY IN REPLYING TO A ROLEPLAYER WITH JADED CYNICISM THAT SHOWS HOW COOL I AM IN AN ONLINE ROLEPLAYING GAME Yes, and replying in mock AOL chat room fashion is the height of originality. Wow it's like layers upon layers of sarcasm. How postmodern!
Jim Raynor	Posted - 2005.09.20 05:43:00 - [14] Miz has always been abnormal, his slave boy is Priest Vallon, btw. ------
Randay	Posted - 2005.09.20 05:48:00 - [15] Ha, 8 Armageddons belonging the the scum of the universe destroyed. Concord will never bow down to your silly demands. Your kind will never be allowed to travel Empire safely. Youll never defeat the Federation, or any other Navy. Give up and go back to your holes. on a side note: wheres teh video!!! omg i wanna see!!! ------------------------------------------- "Det hõr kan betyda krig!"

Eris Discordia	Posted - 2005.09.20 05:57:00 - [16] keep the replies respectful please. I ♥ my pink dreadnought of pwnage You spin me right round, baby.

Theresa Tusktooth	Posted - 2005.09.20 06:38:00 - [17] Yey! Roleplayers..! The Key To Winning Any Fight Is Simply Staying Alive.
Spanker	Posted - 2005.09.20 07:04:00 - [18] This is exactly the kind of thing you start doing to break the mindless tedium that sets in after so many years of playing EVE. I mean EVE is great obviously but after a while you start looking for alternative ways of having fun - if I had the balls I too would gather all my ships and just go pod Amarr or something. Repsecta!
sapage1	Posted - 2005.09.20 07:15:00 - [19] Miz ftw. LOL i want fraps you english *****.
ASIV TRE	Posted - 2005.09.20 07:23:00 - [20] Surely if you killed and podded that many people your sec stat are alittle low to go back into a 0.9? Plus didnt think roleplay was allowed in this thread?
Miz Cenuij	Posted - 2005.09.20 07:39:00 - [21] Sunshine I was well under -5 sec status before I started this attack. "Men are going to die.. and im going to kill them".
Jonathan Davis	Posted - 2005.09.20 07:42:00 - [22] Edited by: Jonathan Davis on 20/09/2005 07:42:34 Ahh, excellent to see that finally some action is being taken in the fight against the concord scum who have conquered the universe. Whats better is that with the insurance paid out for these battleships, you will probably have lost far less isk than your victims did, a worthy compromise. Keep up the fight my brother in arms, and some day we will be able to wander the spacelanes as our kind once did, before the terrible oppressions of the yulai convention and the so called 'police'. And Asiv, rolyplay is allowed anywhetre (i think), its just in some forums your not allowed to not RP. I'm just curious, how did you manage this with such a low sec status?
ASIV TRE	Posted - 2005.09.20 07:56:00 - [23] sorry my bad thought role play was only allowed in certain threads, yeah so how did u get into a 0.9 and destory ships if your already below -5?
madaluap	Posted - 2005.09.20 08:10:00 - [24] Edited by: madaluap on 20/09/2005 08:10:37 [rp off] instajumps while his alt moved the geddons there or he simple bought them from the same carebears who mined them..the irony still dont get how you did it..when you undock you cant let smartbombs go off and will get concorddoken. or you used your alt to undock than warp to a ss get the alt out of the ship, quickly place alt as inwarpspot to carebears and than got in ship warped as fast as you could and got right next to our fluffy friends. thats atleast what i would do [rp on] yaharrr sink the feckers.
Hexxa	Posted - 2005.09.20 08:12:00 - [25] Grats you killed newbs your ace. Now go war some other "Deserving" corp who will give you a fight back, and not some 2 day old player in a Incursus who has now quit.
Spanker	Posted - 2005.09.20 08:26:00 - [26] Originally by: Hexxa Grats you killed newbs your ace. Now go war some other "Deserving" corp who will give you a fight back, and not some 2 day old player in a Incursus who has now quit. I don't think people quit from getting blown up at very early stages in the game, at least not nowadays when ISK grows on trees. Also, when you're that new to the game everything that happens to you is enormously cool and is more likely to be an incentive to keep playing than to quit!
Miz Cenuij	Posted - 2005.09.20 08:28:00 - [27] Edited by: Miz Cenuij on 20/09/2005 08:29:16 My slave boy bought the geddons from the empire carebear inbreds in system, fitted them and then traded them to me. I insured them and handed them back to the dirty toe rag. He flew them to our agreed meeting point (safespot) and from there to the point of attack. As soon as he saw enough stinking empire scum within range he ejected and I warped in in my pod, boarded the ship and fired up the smartbombs. The concord scum then warped in and started to light my ship up. Sometimes I even managed two activations of the bombs thanks to the shield extenders in my med slots. Concord cannot stop me, they cannot stop the pir8 nation from murdering carebears in high sec systems. There is no protection from a dedicated fanatic with smartbombs in his high slots and the wil t actiate them. KILL A COP, SAVE A PIR8 FROM JAIL "Men are going to die.. and im going to kill them".
Suladriel	Posted - 2005.09.20 08:44:00 - [28] OMG Shield extenders in the mid slots on a geddon.......explains a lot really.
Mardonius	Posted - 2005.09.20 08:49:00 - [29] Originally by: Miz Cenuij Tonight I flew into this central hub trading system along with my slave boy. I arrived with 8 geddons, an indy full of large smartbombs and the firm intention of sending Concord and the empire scum they protect straight to hell. Over the next 1.5 hours over 33 pilots lost thier ships and/or pods in this "safe" 0.9 Concord ridden system. These sensless deaths could have been avoided if Concord had submited to my demands for the gates of empire to be opened to the criminal element of the Eve universe. However despite thier failed attempts to cease these attacks on thier flock of carebears, they refused to submit to my demands, as such THEY are responsible for these deaths. Unless a representitive from the filth that is Concord contacts me to discuss terms for thier surrender I will continue to return to secure systems and murder thier lowlife inbred inhabitants. KILL A COP, SAVE A PIR8 FROM JAIL. NB: no exploit was used in the above actions as verified a GM at the time. Your actions seem a bit rash to me. Surely demonstrating the havoc that you are capable of wreaking will only strengthen CONCORD's resolve to secure the gates? Your demands combined with your actions do not make sense. Personally I think your actions lack finesse, and your cause is less than worthy. However, your attacks have served a purpose. They have reminded high-security empire capsuleers that they are never safe from the pirate menace. They have operated too long under the watchful eye of CONCORD, but now it seems that CONCORD is not enough. In the meantime, I suggest that you rethink your political agenda. Since a capsuleer with your resourcefulness and financial backing has the potential to be extremely influential. It would be a pity to see you waste your effort on what is essentially a lost cause. Fly safe.
Hexxa	Posted - 2005.09.20 08:50:00 - [30] Originally by: Spanker I don't think people quit from getting blown up at very early stages in the game, at least not nowadays when ISK grows on trees. Also, when you're that new to the game everything that happens to you is enormously cool and is more likely to be an incentive to keep playing than to quit! My fried quit last week because of idiots like this, its not cool when your trying to find your feet and get ganked...yes ganked no honorable kill, no demands for ransom no even fight, simple fact is he had the skill and a massive amount of support to get to .9 in the first place and take out players who had no reason to die in that area of space. If you want to be honorable stay in .4 and below and fight people there, thats what it's there for. Some people hate PvP and dont go into low sec space, in any other game what he did would be classed as griefing nothing more.
Miz Cenuij	Posted - 2005.09.20 08:54:00 - [31] It sounds carzy i know, but there is no other way to get 6600 xtra hp within the few seconds before the filth pwn u. Low slots taken up by the cpu's required to get 8 SB's on. Those extra few seconds gained help me maximise the amount of scum i kill. Jita, will be the next system to entertain me btw, so all u concord clowns prepare, The Miz is coming, innocents will die. "Men are going to die.. and im going to kill them".
ASIV TRE	Posted - 2005.09.20 09:01:00 - [32] Ummm insuring aship then giving it to someone else and then ejecting from said ship invalidates the insurance doesnt it? Also did anyone else actually see you do this?, coz a while ago someone else claimed they did this and it turned out they made it all up to some how look big on the forums

Chribba	Posted - 2005.09.20 09:05:00 - [33] You can get concord to focus their fire on other things than yourself, that should give you at least one more activation =) EVE-Files \| EVE-Search \| Get Email if thread updates

Nerava	Posted - 2005.09.20 09:10:00 - [34] Edited by: Nerava on 20/09/2005 09:10:25 Originally by: ASIV TRE Ummm insuring aship then giving it to someone else and then ejecting from said ship invalidates the insurance doesnt it? Also did anyone else actually see you do this?, coz a while ago someone else claimed they did this and it turned out they made it all up to some how look big on the forums Yea i can vouche for him, i just entered the system when i saw the concord warning Miz, lucky i was JUST outside of his killing range, i was carrying 3 implants to sell and was in a rookie ship Quick question, as this has always bothered me, when m0o camped Yulai, and proved high sec was not safe for no-one, did the 4 intervene because it was not how it was supposed to be? or because there was no-way to stop them and the noobies were getting trampled on? Did they only react beacause people complained? and they risked loseing alot of people? Cheers (sorry for high-jacking)
xOm3gAx	Posted - 2005.09.20 09:19:00 - [35] Originally by: Nerava Edited by: Nerava on 20/09/2005 09:10:25 Originally by: ASIV TRE Ummm insuring aship then giving it to someone else and then ejecting from said ship invalidates the insurance doesnt it? Also did anyone else actually see you do this?, coz a while ago someone else claimed they did this and it turned out they made it all up to some how look big on the forums Yea i can vouche for him, i just entered the system when i saw the concord warning Miz, lucky i was JUST outside of his killing range, i was carrying 3 implants to sell and was in a rookie ship Quick question, as this has always bothered me, when m0o camped Yulai, and proved high sec was not safe for no-one, did the 4 intervene because it was not how it was supposed to be? or because there was no-way to stop them and the noobies were getting trampled on? Did they only react beacause people complained? and they risked loseing alot of people? Cheers (sorry for high-jacking) A) it was zombie corp b) they exploited game mechanics C) the gm's banned them after repetative warnings to cease other then that i have no info bout it but the vid is up in the eve-video section somewhere. no doubt m0o put them up to it though ;) ----------------- Decloaks and starts blasting your sig Applesauce Biotch Ok who nerf batted my sig >again<? ^^Bows^^ ^^ALL HAIL THE UBERNESS OF Thee^^ Succumb to your nightmares Darkness
gfldex	Posted - 2005.09.20 09:23:00 - [36] Originally by: Hexxa in any other game what he did would be classed as griefing nothing more. That's why I play EVE. some randome WoW player > Oh no I died! I have to walk now a bit! -- $ perl -n -e 'print "Stop blameing pirates! Oveur is the root of all evil!\n" if m/podkill\|lost my ship\|gank\|gate camp\|Verone/;'
Nerava	Posted - 2005.09.20 09:26:00 - [37] Edited by: Nerava on 20/09/2005 09:27:36 Originally by: xOm3gAx A) it was zombie corp b) they exploited game mechanics C) the gm's banned them after repetative warnings to cease other then that i have no info bout it but the vid is up in the eve-video section somewhere. no doubt m0o put them up to it though ;) Oh, my bad, always thought it was m0o, Sooo the Devs didnt intened for it to be a FFA then, i always thought they did, but it got messed up. So empire is one big tutorial/recouping ground then?
ASIV TRE	Posted - 2005.09.20 09:33:00 - [38] Originally by: Miz Cenuij Edited by: Miz Cenuij on 20/09/2005 09:18:03 No, insuance is only invalidated if the ship is LOST while someone else is flying it, this is a common misconception. There were 260 people in local at the Time, many many of whom saw the massive fleets of Concord Filth on the gates as they tried to subdue me. Here are some of the kill mails from last nights JUSTIFIED attacks, also I have fraps footage that I will be making into a video over the course of the campaign (and when I work out how to make a proper video from it). SUBMIT NOW CONCORD, WE ARE RELENTLESS. Fair enough wasnt saying u hadnt done it, just wanted some proof, also migth wanna delete the kill mails now or your thread will get locked. BTW let me know when you are gonna do Jita would like to watch and give concord a hand
Miz Cenuij	Posted - 2005.09.20 09:33:00 - [39] "So empire is one big tutorial/recouping ground then?" NOT ANYMORE IT ISNT. Empire = carebear killing fields from now on :) GM Swoosh did indeed become involved, but it was demonstrated that no game mechanics were being abused and as such no exploit was being used on my part. Iam and will remain an unpstanding member of the Eve universe, defending the rights of the criminal element which Concord treats with such unwarranted biased and unfounded hate. "Men are going to die.. and im going to kill them".
Max Godsnottlingson	Posted - 2005.09.20 09:44:00 - [40] OK, Let me get this straight. You are bragging about having the resources to put together a suicide BS fleet, have the ability to jump into a high sec system, tank the local guns and Concord, then promptly kill and pod kill any passing ship who has the missfortune to be passing, and all in the name of role play. That has to be the sorriest excuse for griefing I have ever come across in Eve or any other on-line game I have played. You deliberatly jumped into the area of Eve put aside for none nonconsensual PvP play and targeted those who you knew full well would not be able to do anything to stop you, Industrial players with little or no PvP experiance and new players still struggling to gain a decent foothold in the game. Role Players you are not. If you want to RP, then join or go against the Amarr and Minmatar role players. I know some of the guys on both sides. They fight hard, show no mercy to one another and get fully into their roles. But they never attack players who are not involved with their war. Pirates. You bring shame to that title. Even though I am an industrial/trade player I occasionally have to go into low sec space. Twice I've been jumped by player pirates, once getting away, just, and the other time I lost an Indy full of minerals and high end trade goods. But you know, that didn't bother me. Because the pirates were doing it right, waiting to ambush in low sec space. It's the worry of meeting those guys who add some spice to my game when I head into a low sec system. I will not accuse you of cheating, you obviously haven't or, and I hope this is the case, the GM's would have sorted you out. But you have entered into the saddest and lowest form of game play which serves the sole purpose of causing even more friction between PvP and non PvP players. As I say. If you want to role play then go against the role players. Though I suspect both the Amarr and Minmatar would chew you up and spit you out. But don't insult our intellegence by trying to justify out and out griefing as role play.
ASIV TRE	Posted - 2005.09.20 09:46:00 - [41] Hang on your buying the ships off the so called "carebears" so your actually helping the carebears out, also without them you wouldnt be flying the ships your using to kill them with. So with that logic you should actually be killing yourself for helping the carebears out? Plus if they keep losing ships to you they will have to put their prices up which will mean you will have to pay more to kill them.
xOm3gAx	Posted - 2005.09.20 09:48:00 - [42] Edited by: xOm3gAx on 20/09/2005 09:48:35 Originally by: Nerava Edited by: Nerava on 20/09/2005 09:27:36 Originally by: xOm3gAx A) it was zombie corp b) they exploited game mechanics C) the gm's banned them after repetative warnings to cease other then that i have no info bout it but the vid is up in the eve-video section somewhere. no doubt m0o put them up to it though ;) Oh, my bad, always thought it was m0o, Sooo the Devs didnt intened for it to be a FFA then, i always thought they did, but it got messed up. So empire is one big tutorial/recouping ground then? pretty much its why in the op you can note at the bottom the thing about the gm saying it was legal after that zombie incident they really come down harsh on ppl who use game mechanics to their advantage. Basicly as long as you lose a ship after agressing then its not an exploit. If you agress and then run and survive concord then its and exploit and u can expect a banning (for those who dont already know) though im sure most of us do. (edit) the video is kick arse btw u should check it out +D (/edit) ----------------- Decloaks and starts blasting your sig Applesauce Biotch Ok who nerf batted my sig >again<? ^^Bows^^ ^^ALL HAIL THE UBERNESS OF Thee^^ Succumb to your nightmares Darkness
Miz Cenuij	Posted - 2005.09.20 09:49:00 - [43] Such an angry lil empire bear . Take note Concord, there is civil unrest, my actions will start a tidal wave of slaughter in empire systems. The scum that lives there will be slaughtered by the hundreds and YOU will be unable to stop it. Capitulate NOW, allow criminals into your precious empire, or it will fall. "Men are going to die.. and im going to kill them".
ASIV TRE	Posted - 2005.09.20 09:54:00 - [44] Your funny, like someone else said all this will do is increase the lovely concord people, and more will be there waiting for you hahahaha. (might set up a donut shop in Jita ready)
AlphaM	Posted - 2005.09.20 09:55:00 - [45] well il look out for your pod in jita, might get lucky and score my self a free geddon :)
Vogon	Posted - 2005.09.20 10:11:00 - [46] Miz is helping to make Eve a more interesting place. Nowhere should be absolutley safe and his actions help to underline this. I frequent high sec space performing my legitimate business, but would concider it an honour to be one of the fallen in his quest. Good luck Miz www.vogon.homestead.com
Hexxa	Posted - 2005.09.20 10:19:00 - [47] Edited by: Hexxa on 20/09/2005 10:19:43 Nowhere should be safe? Ok so were do you suggest the none PvP faction of this game go?
gfldex	Posted - 2005.09.20 10:37:00 - [48] Originally by: Hexxa Ok so were do you suggest the none PvP faction of this game go? Or shall we turn it into another "Lineage 2 it's a pvp game, suck it up or GTFO" kinda game where people are leaving in droves. High sec space is there for a reason, why on earth would they allow low sec pirates into there space? Nothing you have done Miz is comendable or in anyway honorable, yeah fight the man thats cool but leave the new players alone, or in 6-8 months be playing a dead game. When you have to do PvP decides your enemy, not you! And ppl leave in droves. I started EVE the same time with a lot ppl because at this time it was covered by a popular TV show here in germany. I know of 1 of 7 who is still playing besides me. At the same time we get new players in droves. So it evens out. If you read the dev chats carefully you will see that this is intentional. Only those who can handle a thread are wellcome in EVE. You may have noticed that you can war delcarated anywhere. There is nothing like secure space in EVE. Miz is my personal hero for the next 2 days. :) -- $ perl -n -e 'print "Stop blameing pirates! Oveur is the root of all evil!\n" if m/podkill\|lost my ship\|gank\|gate camp\|Verone/;'
Vogon	Posted - 2005.09.20 10:37:00 - [49] I said nowhere should be `absolutely' safe, meaning some risk should be present to at least a minor degree....makes life a bit more spicy.. www.vogon.homestead.com
Balklanac	Posted - 2005.09.20 10:51:00 - [50] Edited by: Balklanac on 20/09/2005 10:55:44
Redwolf	Posted - 2005.09.20 11:12:00 - [51] All this proves is the need for the devs to nerf insurance.
GammaDriver	Posted - 2005.09.20 11:14:00 - [52] Good luck, Miz. Ignore the criers here. This is truly needed, and I'm sure many have wanted to do the same for a long time. No, it doesn't need done all the time, but an occasional 'wake-up' to .9'ers is a valid aspect of the game. Not focusing on only one system, thus perhaps the same victims, makes this all the less 'griefing' and all the more fair. If people did not want to role play, they would NOT be in eve, living as some made-up race in some made-up space.
Chinsor	Posted - 2005.09.20 11:17:00 - [53] good luck miz, the more greedy carebears die the better
marshal123	Posted - 2005.09.20 12:26:00 - [54] Although i dont agree with killing noobs in safe space, they should only be killed in places they shouldnt be and thats low sec. I have to say i like your style and that signature of yours is well funny, 10 out 10 for enternainment and imagination and good luck on your next hunt.
FowlPlayChiken	Posted - 2005.09.20 12:37:00 - [55] someone post when he goes at it again, and where. blinking red targets are fun. bawk!
Edge1	Posted - 2005.09.20 14:17:00 - [56] Although this isnt a bad thing for roleplay (i'm sure roleplay really had nothing to do with it, you just did it for kicks, but thats fair enough to, sounds kinda fun :D), and it all adds to the reality that is Eve, its still a shame that a bunch of people who are on trial/new to the game got ganked in 0.9 space. Hopefully none of them decide to leave the game, thinking the game is too harsh for them and they will get podded anywhere in space at any time.
Roshan longshot	Posted - 2005.09.20 17:33:00 - [57] Well got to give ya credit...your playing the game your way...But your actions, like those before you, will change the game once again. Once the only guns at gates were in 1.0 systems. Once you came out of jump far from gates. Once you could take on and win a fight with concord. Once you could evade concord and not get blasted by the GM's All this got changed by m0o, M3G4, and Zombies long ago. Is this really what you want? a zone where the Game wont let you jump into? Free-form Professions, ensure no limetations on professions. Be a trader, fighter, industialist, researcher, hunter [i]pirate[/i] or mixture of them all. [i]As read from the original box.
Mardonius	Posted - 2005.09.20 18:04:00 - [58] Originally by: Miz Cenuij Such an angry lil empire bear . Take note Concord, there is civil unrest, my actions will start a tidal wave of slaughter in empire systems. The scum that lives there will be slaughtered by the hundreds and YOU will be unable to stop it. Capitulate NOW, allow criminals into your precious empire, or it will fall. Have you read a word I said? If you could explain the rationale behind your actions, then they would serve a purpose. But as it stands they make no sense. I also despise capsuleers who live only in the confines of empire, and lack the testicular fortitude to venture to more dangerous locales in the search of profit, but I would not risk throwing away my clone needlessly. Read my earlier message.
sirbest	Posted - 2005.09.20 18:20:00 - [59] THese are not the actions of a piret, these are the actions of Terrorist. And Concord or any other factions will never bow to the demands of a terrorist. Have fun killing inacent new players, you will get what comeing to you in time..:)
Spaja Saist	Posted - 2005.09.20 18:23:00 - [60] Please tell me again what this was supposed to accomplish? It seems all you managed to do was kill new players and possible cause them to quit. People like you equate empire with carebears. Well sorry to burst you bubble but this is not always the case. Many are there simple because they are new to the game and are still getting their feet wet. Others are there because the corp they belong to has an empire presence. And finally some are there just to buy stuff so they can head out to low sec again. I wish people like you would engage your brain before you do irreparable damage to the game as a whole. All you are going to accomplish is making empire space even more secure. All you griefers really need to grow a pair and pick on people who can fight back.
Malka Badi'a	Posted - 2005.09.20 18:29:00 - [61] Edited by: Malka Badi''a on 20/09/2005 18:31:20 Quote: I wish people like you would engage your brain before you do irreparable damage to the game as a whole So showing new players that there is capability in EVE to break the laws of CONCORD and step beyond typical gameplay that every other MMORPG suffers from is a bad thing? Showing newer players that with enough dedication, planning, and sense of fun you can bend the very galaxy of EVE to your will is something to be looked down upon? Yes, it was mass slaughter, which I support, and it might indeed drive away a few new people. But I would rather watch those people leave EVE, those who feel a game should be completely linear and immobile in it's function, and keep the people who found it exciting and awe inspiring (not of the players, but also the capability of what was happening). Bring those with potiential and flexible capability into EVE for the betterment of the game overall and let those who want linear storylines and rules find an MMORPG that fits them best. You can insult him all you would like, or you could show the "newer players" who are "at risk" that while there are those who would commit such crimes.. there are also those who would defend the galaxy against them. That, perhaps, would be more rookie inspiring than flaming on the forums. --------------
nitr0s	Posted - 2005.09.20 18:35:00 - [62] Originally by: Miz Cenuij "So empire is one big tutorial/recouping ground then?" NOT ANYMORE IT ISNT. Empire = carebear killing fields from now on :) GM Swoosh did indeed become involved, but it was demonstrated that no game mechanics were being abused and as such no exploit was being used on my part. Iam and will remain an unpstanding member of the Eve universe, defending the rights of the criminal element which Concord treats with such unwarranted biased and unfounded hate. Take note gentalmen. This is what happens to children, who's parents dont love them.
Deja Thoris	Posted - 2005.09.20 18:37:00 - [63] Originally by: Hexxa Edited by: Hexxa on 20/09/2005 10:25:09 Edited by: Hexxa on 20/09/2005 10:19:43 Nowhere should be safe? Ok so were do you suggest the none PvP faction of this game go? Or shall we turn it into another "Lineage 2 it's a pvp game, suck it up or GTFO" kinda game where people are leaving in droves. High sec space is there for a reason, why on earth would they allow low sec pirates into there space? Nothing you have done Miz is comendable or in anyway honorable, yeah fight the man thats cool but leave the new players alone, or in 6-8 months be playing a dead game. EVE mirrors real life. There is security but sometimes a lunatic (meant in a nice way) gets out and goes on a rampage. Thats the freedom that EVE gives. If you want to be safe, dont undock. If you dont like the open ended freedom - leave. Don't beg for a watered down version of the game we love. (or as some ppl would say - stfu carebear)
Dryxonedes Sae	Posted - 2005.09.20 18:44:00 - [64] I'm not above bending the laws of CONCORD myself on occasion, but i do admit i never would have the ******* to do this. For those against it, like has been said, take this as the wake up call that nowhere is out of reach, like reality, when someone wants to get to you, there are always ways, nothing is 100% secure. Before the gate sentries and concord went nuts, piracy was easy, wherever, whenever. Then piracy got nerfed. Now, like so many people are being told in so many damned threads, people like miz are ADAPTING. Welcome to EVE, it evolves, as do those who play it. Don't like his tactics? Stay hidden in the station when he comes in system, it's about your only security. That is until some madman finds a way to destroy a station.....
Jex Jast	Posted - 2005.09.20 18:47:00 - [65] Originally by: nitr0s Originally by: Miz Cenuij "So empire is one big tutorial/recouping ground then?" NOT ANYMORE IT ISNT. Empire = carebear killing fields from now on :) GM Swoosh did indeed become involved, but it was demonstrated that no game mechanics were being abused and as such no exploit was being used on my part. Iam and will remain an unpstanding member of the Eve universe, defending the rights of the criminal element which Concord treats with such unwarranted biased and unfounded hate. Take note gentalmen. This is what happens to children, who's parents dont love them. THAT is a direct flame. Shut your damn mouth. Anyways, sounds extremely interesting. I'm based right near Jita so I'd like to see the next time it happens. This is perfectly acceptable game play and I agree that if a few new players quit because they don't think someone should be able to kill them yet, that's an acceptable loss. Miz made this game very exciting for a group of people who were caught by surprise at something like this, and I find no problem with it. I must say though that this had better not make CONCORD stronger/more gates/all those other things that were put in place to protect those who want to play the best mining/trade simulator in the world.
PSA1SWIPE	Posted - 2005.09.20 18:52:00 - [66] Miz Cenuij is my hero he one crazy sob. :) The other day i caught him in station playing playing the old game russian roullet with modfied blaster. Sry for the poor bloke who lost though tbh http://www.battleclinic.com/kill_sigs/signature_display.php?string=PSA1SWIPE I like bunny wabbits
Arrgs	Posted - 2005.09.20 19:25:00 - [67] You show them damn carebears Miz!!!
RabbidFerret	Posted - 2005.09.20 19:33:00 - [68] Edited by: RabbidFerret on 20/09/2005 19:33:23 First off, I see some moderate anger issues directed towards these "carebears" that have yet to do anything to you except keep the market stable. The same market that provides you with anything you need, without it your life would be alot harder. Second: The closest thing I cna compare you to is a terrorist. Killing innocent pilots because you believe it will force someone into following demands that cant be met. Concord is not going to open its space to pirates like you, if anything it will only raise its security. Concord's surrender is a joke, you killed 0.0025% of the current users playing on that night, near nothing. More pilots and money are lost to NPC rats in a 0.7 sec system everyday. You dont see Concord surrendering to them do you? Pirates know that when they perform pirate activities knowing that thier empire travel rights will be stripped. Its been like that for years, stomping on a few newbies will get you nowhere closer to a change. All your ferrets are belong to us.
Galk	Posted - 2005.09.20 19:46:00 - [69] Originally by: xOm3gAx Originally by: Nerava Edited by: Nerava on 20/09/2005 09:10:25 Originally by: ASIV TRE Ummm insuring aship then giving it to someone else and then ejecting from said ship invalidates the insurance doesnt it? Also did anyone else actually see you do this?, coz a while ago someone else claimed they did this and it turned out they made it all up to some how look big on the forums Yea i can vouche for him, i just entered the system when i saw the concord warning Miz, lucky i was JUST outside of his killing range, i was carrying 3 implants to sell and was in a rookie ship Quick question, as this has always bothered me, when m0o camped Yulai, and proved high sec was not safe for no-one, did the 4 intervene because it was not how it was supposed to be? or because there was no-way to stop them and the noobies were getting trampled on? Did they only react beacause people complained? and they risked loseing alot of people? Cheers (sorry for high-jacking) A) it was zombie corp b) they exploited game mechanics C) the gm's banned them after repetative warnings to cease other then that i have no info bout it but the vid is up in the eve-video section somewhere. no doubt m0o put them up to it though ;) He talks of the Mara/Pasari situation. Complety different situation. Basicaly Moo grabbed the game by the balls from the start, knew where to hit and effectively split the map in two with a simple blockade. Due to what are now considerd exploits.. and certain mods, ubber dmg mod stacking for example... they were able to pull it off what is still considerd to be one of eves greatest feats. At the time nobody could realy break it effectively, so hence the 4............. The only time im aware of that the devs/gm's have ever taken such action....? ----------- "Heh believe me, theres never enough cheese to go round" Helpfull profesional support staff responce in times of trouble.
Oblique	Posted - 2005.09.20 19:46:00 - [70] HaHaHa... lol. Die noob, DIE!
corporal hicks	Posted - 2005.09.20 19:51:00 - [71] Personnally i say you should be able to take out concord with a resonable size fleet and the sentry guns on gates, having them as uber as they are makes no logical sense ingame, no friggin police squad and some sentry guns should be able to withstand the firepower of a 50 man bs fleet or something like that. just my 2 cents, gj Miz. " Stay Frosty "
xOm3gAx	Posted - 2005.09.20 21:03:00 - [72] Edited by: xOm3gAx on 20/09/2005 21:06:58 (edit) thats actually one i wasnt aware of galk =) the only time i knew of this happening on a large scale when the devs/gms got involved was with zombie corp, but it does explain the confusion between my post and his (/edit) Originally by: Spaja Saist Please tell me again what this was supposed to accomplish? It seems all you managed to do was kill new players and possible cause them to quit. People like you equate empire with carebears. Well sorry to burst you bubble but this is not always the case. Many are there simple because they are new to the game and are still getting their feet wet. Others are there because the corp they belong to has an empire presence. And finally some are there just to buy stuff so they can head out to low sec again. I wish people like you would engage your brain before you do irreparable damage to the game as a whole. All you are going to accomplish is making empire space even more secure. All you griefers really need to grow a pair and pick on people who can fight back. Dude he's role playing get over it. Though I personally tend to avoid empire combat I do commend the fact that he is role playing the title of a true pirate. And seriously man no space is supposed to be safe this is something that is well known and IS a fact that is supported by the gm's and the dev's. Risk and Reward currently the rewards in empire space are far greater then the risk and that is something that has needed a nerfing for quite some time. Its not like he is actually in a real noob area as those are (correct me if im wrong) the 1.0 systems each respective empire starts in, besides its not like he taking over the system and he is obviously limiting what he does to a few meger battleships, which even after losing them and gaining the full insurance pay outs LOSES isk and quite a substantial amount of it. ----------------- Decloaks and starts blasting your sig Applesauce Biotch Ok who nerf batted my sig >again<? ^^Bows^^ ^^ALL HAIL THE UBERNESS OF Thee^^ Succumb to your nightmares Darkness
Bozl1n	Posted - 2005.09.20 22:54:00 - [73] Quote: and when I work out how to make a proper video from it I'll sort that 4 u m8, just fix ur dam msn file problem http:/eve-coldfusion.com
Lo3d3R	Posted - 2005.09.20 23:09:00 - [74] nice action allot better read then the usuall self proclaimed "populair" pirate threads from certain corps. ~more of these attacks!!!~ nice
Gwindor	Posted - 2005.09.21 01:04:00 - [75] Great Job! Nothing less excpected from Miz. Nice to see you taking matters into your own hands. -Gwindor A.k.a Grim the crazy
P1rate Dave	Posted - 2005.09.21 01:46:00 - [76] fight the power miz ! rawr --------------------------- "I`m not your mama. Why do you crying to me then ?" - Evil Thug
LJSilver	Posted - 2005.09.21 03:11:00 - [77] Can Orvolle be next? The Placid Armageddon/SB market needs some love. http://www.liketelevision.com/web1/classictv/longjohn/longjohn210.gif
Miz Cenuij	Posted - 2005.09.21 05:53:00 - [78] So many pir8s, murderer's and general scum of the universe posting on 1 thread ! Take notice Concord, your time has come. The tidal wave of revolt is rising and it is formed from the blood of the empire inbreds you protect. Consider this your 6 day warning. As we speak my slaves are purchasing, moving and building the equipment to bring JITA to its knees. Submit to the will of the people you facist scum, allow citizens with a criminal record into empire within this time or face countless more deaths. "Men are going to die.. and im going to kill them".
Kumq uat	Posted - 2005.09.21 06:45:00 - [79] Our corp was getting ready to make a big transport run into 0.0. As we prepared to embark one of our guys wanders into the system and on TS I hear "What the hell is goin on? Dude! Some guy just blew up a bunch of newbs!" So yes, yes he did heh Tired of mining the same looking rock for thousands of hours you care bear you? www.freeallegiance.org
ASIV TRE	Posted - 2005.09.21 08:00:00 - [80] Originally by: Miz Cenuij So many pir8s, murderer's and general scum of the universe posting on 1 thread ! Take notice Concord, your time has come. The tidal wave of revolt is rising and it is formed from the blood of the empire inbreds you protect. Consider this your 6 day warning. As we speak my slaves are purchasing, moving and building the equipment to bring JITA to its knees. Submit to the will of the people you facist scum, allow citizens with a criminal record into empire within this time or face countless more deaths. lol, i bet everyone in Jita is really scared now. But heres an idea for you how about we get rid of concord in 0.5-1.0 and make it like 0.1-0.4? That way most of the so called carebears will quit eve, and you wont actually have anyone to shoot at anymore good idea?
Sector 9	Posted - 2005.09.21 08:00:00 - [81] Edited by: Sector 9 on 21/09/2005 08:01:57 Sounds pretty simple to me.. If you don't want to take the chance of being shot down or killed in a game... The go play a game that doesn't support PVP. What's so hard about that to understand? I'm not a rat, but you guys go give them hell and damn the concequences
Princess Beefcurtains	Posted - 2005.09.21 08:14:00 - [82] Originally by: Miz Cenuij Tonight I flew into this central hub trading system along with my slave boy. I arrived with 8 geddons, an indy full of large smartbombs and the firm intention of sending Concord and the empire scum they protect straight to hell. Over the next 1.5 hours over 33 pilots lost thier ships and/or pods in this "safe" 0.9 Concord ridden system. These sensless deaths could have been avoided if Concord had submited to my demands for the gates of empire to be opened to the criminal element of the Eve universe. However despite thier failed attempts to cease these attacks on thier flock of carebears, they refused to submit to my demands, as such THEY are responsible for these deaths. Unless a representitive from the filth that is Concord contacts me to discuss terms for thier surrender I will continue to return to secure systems and murder thier lowlife inbred inhabitants. KILL A COP, SAVE A PIR8 FROM JAIL. NB: no exploit was used in the above actions as verified a GM at the time. Gratz: EVE now has its 1st committed suicide bomber Gotta say that, as funneh as it might seem to you, its pretty fekking pointless which is why its no exploit... Oh well, do what yeh like I guess, t'is only a game... all I can say is thank christ Al Quaida dont have a cloning station...
Sector 9	Posted - 2005.09.21 09:17:00 - [83] Another note of interest is the humour I find in how it is that revolutionists are referred to as terrorists until they win. Then they are patriotic.
Nexus1972	Posted - 2005.09.21 09:22:00 - [84] Edited by: Nexus1972 on 21/09/2005 09:22:34 I look forward to lots of alt podding him after concord are done with him. Seriously, why dont CCP implement a system whereby after the pirate kills someone in empire, they lose their pod protection from concord for 24 hours. So then you will get one kill, but if you persist then concord will pod kill the pirate. Alternatively how about if you kill someone in empire that concord throw you in jail for 24 hrs of eve-time? In real-life the police wouldnt ram someone off the road only to release them to go and get in another car - they would arrest you - why dont concord with all their power just hold the pirates/podkill/kick them out of system and prevent them returning for a set period of time?
xOm3gAx	Posted - 2005.09.21 09:22:00 - [85] Originally by: Sector 9 Another note of interest is the humour I find in how it is that revolutionists are referred to as terrorists until they win. Then they are patriotic. /signed ----------------- Decloaks and starts blasting your sig Applesauce Biotch Ok who nerf batted my sig >again<? ^^Bows^^ ^^ALL HAIL THE UBERNESS OF Thee^^ Succumb to your nightmares Darkness
Princess Beefcurtains	Posted - 2005.09.21 09:52:00 - [86] Originally by: Sector 9 Another note of interest is the humour I find in how it is that revolutionists are referred to as terrorists until they win. Then they are patriotic. Like I said, t'is just a game mate: if it where rl this would be terrorism killing people in rl is wrong no matter how you try to justify it. As its just a game I guess its k to find it amusing
Lifewire	Posted - 2005.09.21 10:02:00 - [87] Zombies didn¦t exploit. GM came and said they should stop farming. Zombies didn¦t want to stop. Try a TDG spawn or the TDG complexes in Pure Blind, Syndicate or empire.
Malken	Posted - 2005.09.21 10:27:00 - [88] nice going Miz i assume they didnt want to pay the toll in MIZ-Oursalert
Charabis Anputeti	Posted - 2005.09.21 10:52:00 - [89] Well this certainly explains a lot. Thankfully, I was just passing through when this happened, so avoided all the "fun". Anyway, here's my thoughts. If you attack someone in high security, you should not only be allowed to be attacked, but pod killed as well. Additionally, ships lost while in a system where Concord is on you should receive no insurance money. What intelligent insurance agent is going to approve a payout to someone who would be deemed a terrorist in the target empire? With that said, I'm impressed Still think there should have been the stiffer penalties I mentioned above, but it is only a game, so does not necessarily mirror real life. ----------------------------------------------- My name is "Todd". Drop the "T" and it explains sooooooo much!
Xardrix	Posted - 2005.09.21 10:57:00 - [90] Originally by: Deja Thoris Originally by: Hexxa Edited by: Hexxa on 20/09/2005 10:25:09 Edited by: Hexxa on 20/09/2005 10:19:43 Nowhere should be safe? Ok so were do you suggest the none PvP faction of this game go? Or shall we turn it into another "Lineage 2 it's a pvp game, suck it up or GTFO" kinda game where people are leaving in droves. High sec space is there for a reason, why on earth would they allow low sec pirates into there space? Nothing you have done Miz is comendable or in anyway honorable, yeah fight the man thats cool but leave the new players alone, or in 6-8 months be playing a dead game. EVE mirrors real life. There is security but sometimes a lunatic (meant in a nice way) gets out and goes on a rampage. Thats the freedom that EVE gives. If you want to be safe, dont undock. If you dont like the open ended freedom - leave. Don't beg for a watered down version of the game we love. (or as some ppl would say - stfu carebear) I agree completely. In Real Life, anyone can kill anyone else, as long as they are willing to make the Ultimate Sacrifice. Miz demonstrated this 8 seperate times, and due to the poddings, will probably not see 1.0 space for quite some time. As an Amarrian loyalist, I will have to condemn your actions, however, I will (OOC) honor you for that demonstration that nothing is safe or sacred. If there were an actual place that people could go to be COMPLETELY safe, I would close (all) my account(s) and go play something else. If this demonstration makes people quit, then they weren't ready for EVE in the first place. http://www.huzzah-federation.com/
Sobeseki Pawi	Posted - 2005.09.21 11:37:00 - [91] /me fits up the Pod Popper for some outlaw killing. ~Captain Cutie, Razor's Kiss Need a merc? Call me.
Majir Kry	Posted - 2005.09.21 11:50:00 - [92] Originally by: Nexus1972 Edited by: Nexus1972 on 21/09/2005 09:22:34 In real-life the police wouldnt ram someone off the road only to release them to go and get in another car - they would arrest you - why dont concord with all their power just hold the pirates/podkill/kick them out of system and prevent them returning for a set period of time? if you are caught Drink driving or dangerous driving after an accident, you are free to continue driving until they ban you in court several months down the line. The Police DO just release you and allow you to get another car (or even give you your own back)
hired goon	Posted - 2005.09.21 12:56:00 - [93] For those who say "Just like real life, it's not safe anywhere" - guess what? If I wanted real life I wouldn't be playing a fking game. And guess what else, idiots. You might subscribe to some deranged and misguided idea about the game being 'better off' without the people who would quit as a result of this, but I disagree. More customers, no matter what they are doing in game, means more money for CCP. They may be able to afford better / more severs, and therefore reduce fleet battle lag. Score. Also, if these players hole themselves up in empire for their entire existence as you assume they will, supply of items will increase and they will become cheaper for all of us. Score. I don't know why you backward fools so deeply hate carebears, I think it's some demented assumption that all carebears are rich. Guess what! They're not, because they're holed up in safe space! Guess who is rich? The people you won't fight because they fight back. Alliances. Hey, Discorporation has a few bil lying around, and he's no carebear. Oh, wait! We can't do that! He might... my god... actually fight back!**
Princess Beefcurtains	Posted - 2005.09.21 13:05:00 - [94] Originally by: hired goon For those who say "Just like real life, it's not safe anywhere" - guess what? If I wanted real life I wouldn't be playing a fking game. And guess what else, idiots. You might subscribe to some deranged and misguided idea about the game being 'better off' without the people who would quit as a result of this, but I disagree. More customers, no matter what they are doing in game, means more money for CCP. They may be able to afford better / more severs, and therefore reduce fleet battle lag. Score. Also, if these players hole themselves up in empire for their entire existence as you assume they will, supply of items will increase and they will become cheaper for all of us. Score. I don't know why you backward fools so deeply hate carebears, I think it's some demented assumption that all carebears are rich. Guess what! They're not, because they're holed up in safe space! Guess who is rich? The people you won't fight because they fight back. Alliances. Hey, Discorporation has a few bil lying around, and he's no carebear. Oh, wait! We can't do that! He might... my god... actually fight back!** Well said in 1st part second part, I dont speak for everyone, but I dont hate 'carebears', thats simply a generalisation, for me, for those who, not necessarily get rich, but maybe make a foolish move in low sec then smacktalk, go off, come back in a shuttle, smacktalk some more and never actually make the effort to come back, as I would wish them to, with friends or by themselves in a decent ship and make an effort to give me/us a good fight. I have had some awesome fights recently with some really cool caracters who've been respectful and come back for a fight. I win some I lose some, thats the way I like it, risky. Unfortunately some people get 10-15 people with them and ofc when its just me I either ss or dock and then it's the whole 'omg, you newb, you ss b*tch, hahaha etc..' smacktalk. pointless.
hired goon	Posted - 2005.09.21 13:46:00 - [95] Sorry for generalizing beefcake, but you did a bit there too - not all carebears smacktalk. And those that do, simply don't let it get to you
Princess Beefcurtains	Posted - 2005.09.21 13:52:00 - [96] Originally by: hired goon Sorry for generalizing beefcake, but you did a bit there too - not all carebears smacktalk. And those that do, simply don't let it get to you My bad, came out wrong, but'cha know what I mean I try not to let the smacktalkers get to me, but sometimes they do and then they kinda... well die, cause they come back too often and I R WAITING 4 EM!
Darth Tater	Posted - 2005.09.21 16:34:00 - [97] Originally by: Miz Cenuij the empire inbreds you protect Originally by: Miz Cenuij allow citizens with a criminal record into empire Kinda wondering why you're demanding access to Empire when its just full of the 'empire inbreds' you so clearly despise? Let me guess, you want easier access to the market created by those very same 'empire inbreds'? Right.
Scalrag Mandu	Posted - 2005.09.21 17:41:00 - [98] Edited by: Scalrag Mandu on 21/09/2005 17:44:42 Originally by: Sector 9 Edited by: Sector 9 on 21/09/2005 08:01:57 Sounds pretty simple to me.. If you don't want to take the chance of being shot down or killed in a game... The go play a game that doesn't support PVP. What's so hard about that to understand? It's not so much that it's a hard position to understand. Rather, it's that the position is patently wrong. Check out the Game Industry News Interview linked today on the front page: Originally by: Reynir Petursson, founder of EVE Online PvP has been a very controversial subject in many games as it has ruined the game experience for many players. However, PvP is also one of the most exciting and rewarding gaming experience possible. So it is a double-edged sword. We knew beforehand that PvP had to be regulated in a sensible manner, so we split the world up into different security zones. This means that the players who do not wish to engage in PvP can play the game without doing so, and many of the richest players in EVE actually never do any PvP. However, real power comes from reputation and the best PvP players earn respect from their peers and are the true heroes (and villains) in EVE. emphasis mine. So, we can clearly see that EVE was designed with people who don't want to participate in PvP in mind. PvP is clearly the path to power, influence and respect, but the whole "non-PvPers are playing the wrong game" argument simply does not hold water. I personally have no problem with PvP or piracy or whatever you decide to call Miz's actions - I accept them as part of the EVE experience. I just object to the widely-held opinion that Sector 9 voiced. People who choose PvP professions like piracy, mercenary work, assassination or bounty-hunting are permitted to do so. Players who choose to go through the game more peacefully should not be discriminated against.
mirel yirrin	Posted - 2005.09.21 17:52:00 - [99] Originally by: Miz Cenuij Such an angry lil empire bear . Take note Concord, there is civil unrest, my actions will start a tidal wave of slaughter in empire systems. The scum that lives there will be slaughtered by the hundreds and YOU will be unable to stop it. Capitulate NOW, allow criminals into your precious empire, or it will fall. Viva La revolution! Death To the FILTH! --------------------------------- KORKY Is Recruiting now! Convo me for More Details.
Ja'kar	Posted - 2005.09.21 18:17:00 - [100] HAHAHA- Nice one m8
Doujima	Posted - 2005.09.21 19:22:00 - [101] Firstly, I understand that you didn't exploit, etc, etc, and I understand your motivation here. Hell, I think it was pretty funny as well, and am looking forward to the movie. But I think you're seeing this end in a way that the path won't end. I'm not sure if you really want pirates to be able to enter secure space or if that was just roleplaying, but all this will do is have them explore "alternate" ways of destroying you. For instance, I could see the next patch changing the behavior of Concord so that instead of simply blowing up your ship, under certain conditions, they'd pod you as well. One possibility would be if you've had a ship destroyed by Concord in the past hour or so, they'd pod you instead. Of course, that'd be a problem when people get the aggression timers wrong and leave station before Concord is done being angry. One other possibility that would be more sensible, although still a turn for the worse for everyone, would be for Concord to simply blow up the pods of any pirate with a low sec rating. Hopefully not simply the -5, maybe -8 or something. Even if they go higher for the pod, that'd still be the exact opposite of what you're trying to achieve :P Not saying I disagree with what you're doing, just what you claim to be expecting :P Concord is there to protect the space. If any change to Concord is going to be made because of this, it'll be to the detriment of pirates, not to their benefit.
Nadija	Posted - 2005.09.21 20:30:00 - [102] ROFL... reminds me of Zombie Corp
hired goon	Posted - 2005.09.21 21:08:00 - [103] I waited for hours in Jita... not happen?
ASIV TRE	Posted - 2005.09.21 21:17:00 - [104] I think hes doing it in 6 days time, prob needs that time to mine the minerals with his carebear alts in secure empire for the new ships
Darth Tater	Posted - 2005.09.21 23:56:00 - [105] Originally by: ASIV TRE mine the minerals with his carebear alts in secure empire irony 4tw! --- Instant Thread Lock: Just Add Tater!
sesanti	Posted - 2005.09.22 00:20:00 - [106] If many more continue with that behaviour after what that guy did, the changes CPP will make to the game to avoid that situation will be not for the benefit of anyone. I come from Anarchy Online, where to pvp u had: 1- To be in certain range of levels from other players 2- Enter a PVP zone. 3- Once inside a PVP zone, wait for a timer to finish (like 1 min) before other could attack u. In that time, u could safely navigate most zones. 4- Mostly the people that PVPed were the ones who spent hours powerleveling and fitting 100 lvl stuff in a 60 lvl char, so it was pointless to fight for people who didn't have time to play the game 24/7. I would hate to see EVE turned into that for actions of some morons... ________________________________________________ - The ShadowMaster - <I am a guy... don't mind the portrait>
Acqucha	Posted - 2005.09.22 01:02:00 - [107] When you have several billion isk as miz does it is hardly a dent on his wallet to send out 20 or even 100 armageddons to the slaughter in order to prove that wherever you go no government can beat the terrorism even in so called "safe" locations.
Vegas	Posted - 2005.09.22 01:40:00 - [108] Edited by: Vegas on 22/09/2005 01:40:14 Edited by: Vegas on 22/09/2005 01:39:51 Originally by: Deja Thoris If you dont like the open ended freedom - leave. Don't beg for a watered down version of the game we love. Quoted for truth
MWEI	Posted - 2005.09.22 02:17:00 - [109] I simply fail to see how anyone could be proud of losing a bunch of bs in order to kill some indys. What ever loot you got would proberbly not make up for the lost of the battleships.... No point was made either, Concord killed you all, if they really exist, as you make them seem to be, they would be laughing at your stupidity...
infused	Posted - 2005.09.22 02:49:00 - [110] Awesome... Pirates 1 Concord 0
Tenacha Khan	Posted - 2005.09.22 03:14:00 - [111] Originally by: MWEI I simply fail to see how anyone could be proud of losing a bunch of bs in order to kill some indys. What ever loot you got would proberbly not make up for the lost of the battleships.... No point was made either, Concord killed you all, if they really exist, as you make them seem to be, they would be laughing at your stupidity... looting just one 27.44% expander would make it profitable to loose one armageddon. People carry billions in indys through empire space
Tenacha Khan	Posted - 2005.09.22 03:18:00 - [112] Originally by: "Doujima" For instance, I could see the next patch changing the behavior of Concord so that instead of simply blowing up your ship, under certain conditions, they'd pod you as well. One possibility would be if you've had a ship destroyed by Concord in the past hour or so, they'd pod you instead. Of course, that'd be a problem when people get the aggression timers wrong and leave station before Concord is done being angry. One other possibility that would be more sensible, although still a turn for the worse for everyone, would be for Concord to simply blow up the pods of any pirate with a low sec rating. Hopefully not simply the -5, maybe -8 or something. Even if they go higher for the pod, that'd still be the exact opposite of what you're trying to achieve :P It would be a really bad idea to have npc ships blowing up pods, it would certainly make implant prices high and make all the carebears quit after they get podded repeatedly by sanshas, it would be more realistic, sanshas would kill you if you have a -5 rating to them, but as you say -8 might be better.
Ginger Magician	Posted - 2005.09.22 04:05:00 - [113] I was there with my alt when he did this and its pefectly feasible and there is no exploit invovled although im sure it was a pretty costly exercise in terms of isk.Just camp a busy 0.4 system Miz - u can kill a lot more for a lot less expense
Insane Angel	Posted - 2005.09.22 04:41:00 - [114] wah wah wah wah waaaaah The game was played, he played it by the rules. He loses money everytime he does it and so did you roid hugging monkeys.. no offense. Deal with it. Miz told me that some of you apes tried to kill him everytime he did it... 'tried'. Try harder. I already told mizbear I will pod him for the bounty. Hes one of my best friends in the game, think he cares if I kill him? For 2 secs, sure.. after that we will share a laugh. Same will go with me if the nub thinks he can kill me. You arent friends with him, but you should do the same. What do you macro using w****s do when a GM sees ur a macro miner? Thats right they spawn NPCs on ur butt in 1.0 systems. Do you whine then? Sure do. and for all your whining what happens? Nothing.
hired goon	Posted - 2005.09.22 08:45:00 - [115] Edited by: hired goon on 22/09/2005 08:45:49 Originally by: Insane Angel wah wah wah wah waaaaah The game was played, he played it by the rules. He loses money everytime he does it and so did you roid hugging monkeys.. no offense. Deal with it. Miz told me that some of you apes tried to kill him everytime he did it... 'tried'. Try harder. I already told mizbear I will pod him for the bounty. Hes one of my best friends in the game, think he cares if I kill him? For 2 secs, sure.. after that we will share a laugh. Same will go with me if the nub thinks he can kill me. You arent friends with him, but you should do the same. What do you macro using w****s do when a GM sees ur a macro miner? Thats right they spawn NPCs on ur butt in 1.0 systems. Do you whine then? Sure do. and for all your whining what happens? Nothing. Whining about people whining 4tw!
Chai N'Dorr	Posted - 2005.09.22 09:00:00 - [116] You just know what's gonna happen: CONCORD and the security measures are just going to be beefed or adjusted to deal with this and I can already see the whining pirates on the forums: "OMG CCP U N3Rvd p1r4cy!!one11" or something intelligent like that. Killing 'innocents/newbies' in this game has never worked out well for those wanted to get a point across. (but chapeau for at least giving the masses a warning about your next killing spree). _ Latest Scoop
Beringe	Posted - 2005.09.22 09:12:00 - [117] First, anyone who refers to himself as "The" something (in this case, "the Miz") has got to have issues. Secondly, saying "CONCORD are facists !one1!!" a lot is not roleplaying, not interesting, and certainly not funny. Not to mention that it irks me something fierce when people are too stupid to know the meaning of certain words. Thirdly, all you are accomplishing is having empire nerfed some more. Gratz. Finally, 33 noob ships and shuttles for 8 armageddons? Gj... ------------------------------------------- Sometimes, I wake up but keep on dreaming.
Nexus1972	Posted - 2005.09.22 11:11:00 - [118] Taken from the FAQ at http://www.eve-online.com/faq/faq_12.asp: Quote: A grief player, or "griefer," is a player who devotes much of his time to making othersÆ lives miserable, in a large part deriving his enjoyment of the game from these activities. Grief tactics are the mechanics a griefer will utilize to antagonize other players. This should not be confused with standard conflict that might arise between two players. At our discretion, players who are found to be consistently maliciously interfering with the game experience for others may receive a warning, temporary suspension or permanent banning of his account. I think that Miz Cenuij's own admissions amount to grieffing, hence if he does it again I would expect CCP to take action
Scrofalitic One	Posted - 2005.09.22 11:17:00 - [119] This was pointless. But at the same time truly hilarious :) Are you accepting bookings? I'd love you to make an appearance at Rens at some time soon :D

Eris Discordia	Posted - 2005.09.22 11:19:00 - [120] Originally by: Nexus1972 Taken from the FAQ at http://www.eve-online.com/faq/faq_12.asp: Quote: A grief player, or "griefer," is a player who devotes much of his time to making othersÆ lives miserable, in a large part deriving his enjoyment of the game from these activities. Grief tactics are the mechanics a griefer will utilize to antagonize other players. This should not be confused with standard conflict that might arise between two players. At our discretion, players who are found to be consistently maliciously interfering with the game experience for others may receive a warning, temporary suspension or permanent banning of his account. I think that Miz Cenuij's own admissions amount to grieffing, hence if he does it again I would expect CCP to take action The GM's review what griefing is on case by case basis, they may even tell Miz that they are very sorry but he is not a griefer and has to try harder (They have a weird sense of humor) If you feel MIz is griefing you should petition him and let the GM's decide on it. I ♥ my pink dreadnought of pwnage You spin me right round, baby.

J909	Posted - 2005.09.22 11:24:00 - [121] I am surprised nobody has popped his pod after the fun... /fits insta lock setup PS. Miz Cenuij is a character in a Ian M Banks book, cant remember which 1 but they are all good reading
Scrofalitic One	Posted - 2005.09.22 11:27:00 - [122] Originally by: J909 PS. Miz Cenuij is a character in a Ian M Banks book, cant remember which 1 but they are all good reading Aganst A Dark Background. Seriously superb book :) /me starts looking nervously around after posting off topic...worried about the Eris baseball bat o'doom...
Tecro Masheta	Posted - 2005.09.22 12:48:00 - [123] How many are U in numbers, there're millions of "carebears" living in space so if U keep this up the Navy's and Concord will put simply more ships at the gates, like a few hundred if that is what it takes to stop U.They might even change some laws if that is what it takes to protect us. Have U ever seen the Gallante Navy or the Caldari Homeguard "at work"? On the other hand, nice roleplaying though, makes the game even better imho. But I do hope one thing, that U are a little bit carefull with the newest newbie's, because they'll have no idea what's going on.U want to show them how real this game can be than show them but don't make them feel it(yet), otherwise U might as well go the the starter stations. So lets say no shooting at less than 10 days ? Tecro
Miz Cenuij	Posted - 2005.09.22 13:06:00 - [124] 5 day warning Concord. Iam by the batphone awaiting a call from your representitive. You know the number. Dial it. On the subject of killing noobs, right now im killing the women in empire, if the Concord filth do not meet my demands, I will not think twice before escalating hostilities up towards murdering its children.... Kill a cop, save a pir8 from jail. "Men are going to die.. and im going to kill them".
Tal Oman	Posted - 2005.09.22 16:33:00 - [125] EVE Automated Message System FROM: CORSEC TO: Miz Cenuij SUBJECT: Demands 10000101110011001010011100100111001010100111100101101001101010100100101 11100101101101010110010101110010110010100101001010101010001010101010100 11010101010010101001010111010010100101010010100101010010101001010110100 1101001001010010101010 100101
Siri Danae	Posted - 2005.09.22 17:19:00 - [126] Originally by: J909 I am surprised nobody has popped his pod after the fun... They were in Oursulaert. I doubt there was one player in Oursulaert at the time who fits a warp scrambler and has the will to take the sec hit for popping a pod. If .9 players were vigilantes, they wouldn't need concord. ------ I generally assume the following: 1. 95% of Empire Carebears don't get 0.0 PVPers. 2. 95% of 0.0 PVPers don't get Empire Carebears. 3. 100% of Ore Thieves steal just to upset the Miners.
Malthros Zenobia	Posted - 2005.09.22 17:36:00 - [127] Originally by: Lifewire Zombies didn¦t exploit. GM came and said they should stop farming. Zombies didn¦t want to stop. I thought they were the ones who we using a ton of shield relays to make the guy tanking the snetry guns unkillable, and due to the guns only targetting the NO_KILL tank, CCP told them to stop, as it was an exploit in bad AI, they didn't, and they got banned for it. I know that same tactic isn't possible anymore, CONCORD hits the guys using shield relays. Or is that something else? :P
Karl Borhman	Posted - 2005.09.22 20:15:00 - [128] Originally by: Majir Kry if you are caught Drink driving or dangerous driving after an accident, you are free to continue driving until they ban you in court several months down the line. The Police DO just release you and allow you to get another car (or even give you your own back) Obviously you're still wet behind the ears. I can listen to these brag threads about noob killing easier than I can listen to someone spew that has no fricken clue about what they are talking about. Minimum for first offense DUI in most states is a 6 mo. mandatory suspension of license on the spot. If they catch you driving during the suspension the penalites are board fricken stiff m8. Expect a license revocation for 5 years minimum, and possibly as many as 10, depending on the state. Drive after this, you can do soft prison time - like 1 year stints. Don't believe it? By all means try it, and report the results here ... As the revalence to this thread the above comment bears little, other than to illustrate that if EVE mirrored RL let's just say that guy wouldn't be seeing the interior of a geddon for a L-O-N-G time. "There is no live and let live with bugs." - Bill Paxton as Morgan Earp
Firstname Lastname	Posted - 2005.09.22 23:04:00 - [129] Miz, my lad, you inspired me. 2005.09.22 22:58:00 Victim: XxXxXxXxXxXxXxXx Alliance: Unknown Corporation: The Scope Destroyed Type: Covetor Solar System: Jita System Security Level: 0.9 Involved parties: Name: Firstname Lastname (laid the final blow) Security Status: -1.9 Alliance: Unknown Corporation: Guiding Hand Breakfast Club Ship Type: Raven Weapon Type: Paradise Cruise Missile I Destroyed items: Type: Ogre I (Drone Bay) Type: Ogre I (Drone Bay) Type: Ogre I (Drone Bay) Type: Ogre I (Drone Bay) Type: Ice Harvester I (Fitted - High slot) Type: Ice Harvester I (Fitted - High slot) Type: Partial Hull Conversion Expanded Cargo (Fitted - Low slot) Type: White Glaze (Cargo) Quantity: 3
Haleuth	Posted - 2005.09.23 00:01:00 - [130] jeez everyone takes themselves way to seriously. This was incredibly funny, nice work miz
sesanti	Posted - 2005.09.23 00:50:00 - [131] Originally by: Firstname Lastname Miz, my lad, you inspired me. 2005.09.22 22:58:00 Victim: XxXxXxXxXxXxXxXx Alliance: Unknown Corporation: The Scope Destroyed Type: Covetor Solar System: Jita System Security Level: 0.9 Involved parties: Name: Firstname Lastname (laid the final blow) Security Status: -1.9 Alliance: Unknown Corporation: Guiding Hand Breakfast Club Ship Type: Raven Weapon Type: Paradise Cruise Missile I Destroyed items: Type: Ogre I (Drone Bay) Type: Ogre I (Drone Bay) Type: Ogre I (Drone Bay) Type: Ogre I (Drone Bay) Type: Ice Harvester I (Fitted - High slot) Type: Ice Harvester I (Fitted - High slot) Type: Partial Hull Conversion Expanded Cargo (Fitted - Low slot) Type: White Glaze (Cargo) Quantity: 3 Nice goind pal, we'll remember your name among all the others that will follow u, when CCP nerfes the rules of the game for worse just to prevent that... ________________________________________________ - The ShadowMaster - <I am a guy... don't mind the portrait>
Tobiaz	Posted - 2005.09.23 01:11:00 - [132] Miz = + = We're the rats eating your pie!
IonHammer	Posted - 2005.09.23 01:29:00 - [133] nice to see some fear return to afkland oh i mean empire.
Maya Rkell	Posted - 2005.09.23 01:45:00 - [134] lmao. They're sacrificing 50 mil for one kill. If you move stuff in vulnrable ships... "Corpse cannot be fitted onto ship. Only hardware modules can be fitted."
Tenacha Khan	Posted - 2005.09.23 02:26:00 - [135] Originally by: Karl Borhman Originally by: Majir Kry if you are caught Drink driving or dangerous driving after an accident, you are free to continue driving until they ban you in court several months down the line. The Police DO just release you and allow you to get another car (or even give you your own back) Obviously you're still wet behind the ears. I can listen to these brag threads about noob killing easier than I can listen to someone spew that has no fricken clue about what they are talking about. Minimum for first offense DUI in most states is a 6 mo. mandatory suspension of license on the spot. If they catch you driving during the suspension the penalites are board fricken stiff m8. Expect a license revocation for 5 years minimum, and possibly as many as 10, depending on the state. Drive after this, you can do soft prison time - like 1 year stints. Don't believe it? By all means try it, and report the results here ... As the revalence to this thread the above comment bears little, other than to illustrate that if EVE mirrored RL let's just say that guy wouldn't be seeing the interior of a geddon for a L-O-N-G time. Obviously you believe that every country operates the same way as urs I can listen to people flaming a pirate for playing his role, but i cant listen to someone who is pig ignorant of other peoples nationalitys. In the UK When you get pulled over you get breathalised the light goes red you put on a shocked expression they caution you they take you to station they put you on a big breath tester machine that gives the actual read out if its low then you go if its high, you get charged with the offence they stick you in a cell for the night as no one can be arsed to interview a **ed up ** at 4 am next day they let you go after interview and doin the prints/dna and leet pics you still have ur license and can drive within a week ur in magistrates and the charges are read out and they deicde to prosecute and set a court date at this point you can hand in ur license and the time is removed from ur ban, but you dont have to give it in 1-3months later they prosecute you and take away your license So it is exactly how Majir said Sorry to go off topic there
Beringe	Posted - 2005.09.23 04:08:00 - [136] Originally by: Tobiaz Miz = + = I'm sorry, I didn't realize it had to be that simple. Fine. Miz = + + + = ------------------------------------------- Sometimes, I wake up but keep on dreaming.
ASIV TRE	Posted - 2005.09.23 07:38:00 - [137] Originally by: Firstname Lastname Miz, my lad, you inspired me. 2005.09.22 22:58:00 Victim: XxXxXxXxXxXxXxXx Alliance: Unknown Corporation: The Scope Destroyed Type: Covetor Solar System: Jita System Security Level: 0.9 Involved parties: Name: Firstname Lastname (laid the final blow) Security Status: -1.9 Alliance: Unknown Corporation: Guiding Hand Breakfast Club Ship Type: Raven Weapon Type: Paradise Cruise Missile I Destroyed items: Type: Ogre I (Drone Bay) Type: Ogre I (Drone Bay) Type: Ogre I (Drone Bay) Type: Ogre I (Drone Bay) Type: Ice Harvester I (Fitted - High slot) Type: Ice Harvester I (Fitted - High slot) Type: Partial Hull Conversion Expanded Cargo (Fitted - Low slot) Type: White Glaze (Cargo) Quantity: 3 NOooooooooooooooooo, i thought u had buggered off and werent coming back, you wasted a Raven to kill a coverter lol, something tells me u made that kill mail up.
Elbereth	Posted - 2005.09.23 08:02:00 - [138] And i considerd myself as sick:D The Matrix is full of Exploiters ,You dont see Neo complain.
Quithlar Binay	Posted - 2005.09.23 13:24:00 - [139] Originally by: Hexxa Grats you killed newbs your ace. Now go war some other "Deserving" corp who will give you a fight back, and not some 2 day old player in a Incursus who has now quit. Originally by: Edge1 Although this isnt a bad thing for roleplay (i'm sure roleplay really had nothing to do with it, you just did it for kicks, but thats fair enough to, sounds kinda fun :D), and it all adds to the reality that is Eve, its still a shame that a bunch of people who are on trial/new to the game got ganked in 0.9 space. Hopefully none of them decide to leave the game, thinking the game is too harsh for them and they will get podded anywhere in space at any time. Not so. FNA instructors are quite clear on the fact that pilots can be attacked anywhere, but that the attacker will lose his or her vessel in a high security system. If a pilot complained of Mr. Ceniuj's actions, we would simply inform them that he gave up his battleship for the honor of destroying them. Remember, new pilots are impressed by the thought of that much isk going down the drain. If they still had trouble dealing with the situation, we would replace their ship for them (though such pilots aren't always suited to EVE in the long run). If they were still unable to cope, then Mr. Cenuij merely hastened the inevitible. All that said, I oppose this action in Federation space, and will make that known in person if the situation arises. Originally by: Ginger Magician I was there with my alt when he did this and its pefectly feasible and there is no exploit invovled although im sure it was a pretty costly exercise in terms of isk.Just camp a busy 0.4 system Miz - u can kill a lot more for a lot less expense That is actually a greater threat to pilot retention. Thank you, Ginger. - Quithlar Binay
Morsus Argent	Posted - 2005.09.23 15:22:00 - [140] Originally by: Miz CenuijHowever despite thier failed attempts to cease these attacks on thier flock of carebears, they refused to submit to my demands, as such THEY are responsible for these deaths.[/quote Great. Then if you don't give me 100,000,000 ISK, I'll shoot a puppy. Won't do it? Then you're responsible for the death of this puppy. Puppy murderer! (for best effect, substitute 'puppy' for something you don't actually want shot). On a different note, I don't see this as exploiting anything, just abusing the limitations of the in-game mechanics. For example, the henchman shouldn't really be getting away scot free, they're aiding a criminal act. But it'd be difficult to catch with mechanics, so they do. Concord should really notice a battleship loaded with smart bombs sitting next to a gate. Especially after the first few set them off. But that's even harder to detect. Hence, it's not really roleplaying either. Roleplaying doesn't usually involve highlighting and exploiting the limits of the AI. Doing it once, maybe. Eight times? Just silly. Getting insurance through losing a ship in a criminal act is a bit daft too, but then, maybe criminals have their own insurance scheme. But I'd have thought premiums would go up. Just to be clear though, I do personally think there should be some risk even in secure space. But, in 0.9 space anyway, 'risk' to me does not equate to 'instant unavoidable obliteration'.
Heikki	Posted - 2005.09.23 22:12:00 - [141] I kinda love EVE because of it's harshness: you can be killed everywhere, and dying hurts. Thus it is rather sad to see Miz and alike folks doing their best to get that changed into something more forgiving. Whats the point in killing mass of newbies, in any game? The harm such thing causes most certainly outweights any gains, including any kicks the killer gets. If the said newbie insults you; fine slay him. If he smacks in local, go ahead and massacre his corp. If you really want to show off with Empire kills, do it the proper way: find expensive cargoes to catch. Locate some 10 billion uber missioning ship, and waste those 8 geddons to break her. Or in short: quit the senseless slaughters, so that we'll keep the ability to kill when we really need to. -Lasse
Firstname Lastname	Posted - 2005.09.23 22:36:00 - [142] Originally by: ASIV TRE Originally by: Firstname Lastname Miz, my lad, you inspired me. 2005.09.22 22:58:00 Victim: XxXxXxXxXxXxXxXx Alliance: Unknown Corporation: The Scope Destroyed Type: Covetor Solar System: Jita System Security Level: 0.9 Involved parties: Name: Firstname Lastname (laid the final blow) Security Status: -1.9 Alliance: Unknown Corporation: Guiding Hand Breakfast Club Ship Type: Raven Weapon Type: Paradise Cruise Missile I Destroyed items: Type: Ogre I (Drone Bay) Type: Ogre I (Drone Bay) Type: Ogre I (Drone Bay) Type: Ogre I (Drone Bay) Type: Ice Harvester I (Fitted - High slot) Type: Ice Harvester I (Fitted - High slot) Type: Partial Hull Conversion Expanded Cargo (Fitted - Low slot) Type: White Glaze (Cargo) Quantity: 3 NOooooooooooooooooo, i thought u had buggered off and werent coming back, you wasted a Raven to kill a coverter lol, something tells me u made that kill mail up. Nope, it's real. Cooler than selling it I think. I would've suicided my scorpion too but the insurance ran out a minute after I logged on :( I was gone for a while because I got banned for something I don't know what but oh well :/
ASIV TRE	Posted - 2005.09.23 23:09:00 - [143] Edited by: ASIV TRE on 23/09/2005 23:10:01 Cool? lol, no u thought u would try and make yourself look big by trying to kill a mining barge. Also why were u typing in Jita local awhile that u were seling your raven coz u were quiting eve if you havent? Oh yeah i'm sure your sec stat was -1.9 a week or so ago so how come u didnt take a sec hit?
DOUGWINGER	Posted - 2005.09.24 01:43:00 - [144] If you have a fully insured BS and gank a mining barge you will usually get more than you would for selling it, I made like 50mil off the one I killed.
Firstname Lastname	Posted - 2005.09.24 02:01:00 - [145] Originally by: ASIV TRE Edited by: ASIV TRE on 23/09/2005 23:10:01 Cool? lol, no u thought u would try and make yourself look big by trying to kill a mining barge. Also why were u typing in Jita local awhile that u were seling your raven coz u were quiting eve if you havent? Oh yeah i'm sure your sec stat was -1.9 a week or so ago so how come u didnt take a sec hit? I had -1.6 before I popped him. I was gonna quit but I decided not to :)
Caeden Nicomachean	Posted - 2005.09.24 02:15:00 - [146] Originally by: Firstname Lastname Nope, it's real. Cooler than selling it I think. I would've suicided my scorpion too but the insurance ran out a minute after I logged on :( I had -1.6 before I popped him. I was gonna quit but I decided not to :) And lost an uninsured scorp for it? I'd poke fun, but it feels like laughing at the disabled
Cirale	Posted - 2005.09.24 04:15:00 - [147] ah firstname, your back! can you wardec GALAX again and actually log in before the timer expires? we REALLY wanna kill you. oh and sorry for the OT, I've had a good laugh with this one
kali 1212	Posted - 2005.09.24 04:33:00 - [148] huh go pick on some one who may stand a chance against you attacking caebears such as my self shows u for what you really are, a coward and worse nutning but a dam terrorist and should be treated as such
Firstname Lastname	Posted - 2005.09.24 04:35:00 - [149] Edited by: Firstname Lastname on 24/09/2005 04:35:19 Originally by: Caeden Nicomachean Originally by: Firstname Lastname Nope, it's real. Cooler than selling it I think. I would've suicided my scorpion too but the insurance ran out a minute after I logged on :( I had -1.6 before I popped him. I was gonna quit but I decided not to :) And lost an uninsured scorp for it? I'd poke fun, but it feels like laughing at the disabled Note how I said would've. I sold the scorp instead of suiciding it because i wasn't going to pay 20m for insurance to go blow myself up. Originally by: Cirale ah firstname, your back! can you wardec GALAX again and actually log in before the timer expires? we REALLY wanna kill you. oh and sorry for the OT, I've had a good laugh with this one hahahahahahahahahahhahaha
Jenny Spitfire	Posted - 2005.09.24 06:14:00 - [150] Originally by: Miz Cenuij 5 day warning Concord. Iam by the batphone awaiting a call from your representitive. You know the number. Dial it. On the subject of killing noobs, right now im killing the women in empire, if the Concord filth do not meet my demands, I will not think twice before escalating hostilities up towards murdering its children.... Kill a cop, save a pir8 from jail. Killing women? Pffft... men ♥♥♥♥♥
Morsus Argent	Posted - 2005.09.24 09:53:00 - [151] Originally by: DOUGWINGER If you have a fully insured BS and gank a mining barge you will usually get more than you would for selling it, I made like 50mil off the one I killed. Interesting. Where's the risk? Let me explain. Apparently, if there's reward, we need risk. So, for example, if a fairly new player is moving their possessions around in secure space in an industrial, it's only right they have the risk of being totally and unavoidably obliterated if they go through a gate at the wrong time. Because, after all, they have that potential reward of getting their stuff from A to B! So if moving stuff around carries a risk of being completely, inescapably, annhiliated, then for something that can give 50 million ISK rewards, we presumably need a much heftier risk. I see the cost. You get blown up. But that's not a risk, you know that's going to happen. That's already taken into account. I suppose the mining barge might escape, leaving you with nothing. Or they might even have persuaded friends to sit around doing nothing for protection. But since you're the one starting the fight, that's pretty much in your control - if barge A is ready to run, or guarded, move on to barge B. So not really that much risk there either. So, for moving possessions from A to B in an industrial, we have a risk of being unavoidably obliterated. For ganking a mining barge and making 50 million ISK, we have the risk of... um... er... dang.
Amon Evakrace	Posted - 2005.09.24 15:02:00 - [152] lol funny thread, after readin through it all, miz does sound like a tard, but makes the game that bit more interestin so keep it up if you can afford it and the true miz equation is miz = ( + ) x = + / - - - - - - - - - - - -= Mean and Mercenary =-
Firstname Lastname	Posted - 2005.09.25 07:20:00 - [153] Originally by: Morsus Argent Originally by: DOUGWINGER If you have a fully insured BS and gank a mining barge you will usually get more than you would for selling it, I made like 50mil off the one I killed. Interesting. Where's the risk? Let me explain. Apparently, if there's reward, we need risk. So, for example, if a fairly new player is moving their possessions around in secure space in an industrial, it's only right they have the risk of being totally and unavoidably obliterated if they go through a gate at the wrong time. Because, after all, they have that potential reward of getting their stuff from A to B! So if moving stuff around carries a risk of being completely, inescapably, annhiliated, then for something that can give 50 million ISK rewards, we presumably need a much heftier risk. I see the cost. You get blown up. But that's not a risk, you know that's going to happen. That's already taken into account. I suppose the mining barge might escape, leaving you with nothing. Or they might even have persuaded friends to sit around doing nothing for protection. But since you're the one starting the fight, that's pretty much in your control - if barge A is ready to run, or guarded, move on to barge B. So not really that much risk there either. So, for moving possessions from A to B in an industrial, we have a risk of being unavoidably obliterated. For ganking a mining barge and making 50 million ISK, we have the risk of... um... er... dang. The downside of it is you can only do it a few times before you ruin yor sec.
ManOfHonor	Posted - 2005.09.25 07:54:00 - [154] Edited by: ManOfHonor on 25/09/2005 07:55:28 now, if this isn't exploiting (cause ya loose yr ship)... isn't this griefing? -_- some damn loosers you must be what are ya, twelve? or maby yr a 30-year old with no life, no friends, no ambitions or goals, and you just realized it? how pathetic _____________________________ NPC Asteroid Belt Bases Honor Above Self Glory For Self Strength Of Self
Razner Cerizo	Posted - 2005.09.25 08:47:00 - [155] Because everyone knows, actually making money by not mining is a bad bad thing.
Morsus Argent	Posted - 2005.09.25 11:55:00 - [156] Originally by: Firstname Lastname The downside of it is you can only do it a few times before you ruin yor sec. But that's not a risk either. You know that happens. You might as well say that the downside of mining is that you can only do it for so long before your hold gets full. Different scale, same principle.
Ashley Sky	Posted - 2005.09.25 16:44:00 - [157] Empire killing is one of my favorite topics. Your name will be remembered. Good show, sir.
ASIV TRE	Posted - 2005.09.25 18:42:00 - [158] Originally by: Ashley Sky Empire killing is one of my favorite topics. Your name will be remembered. Good show, sir. OH yeah u and some other people claimed to have blown up aload of mining barges then it turned out you hadnt and were just trying to get attention on the forums
Tristran Sarmatae	Posted - 2005.09.25 20:32:00 - [159] I don't see the point of bragging that you have killed in Oursulaert. since most players there are in erly stages and the best ships they have are velators and tristans. So CONCORD are not responsible you are you killed 33 innocent starting players which had no quarell with you. do what you want to CONCORD they have never helped me so why is the best way to get at them to destroy people they don't care about anyway!
Cassendra	Posted - 2005.09.25 21:43:00 - [160] Originally by: Miz Cenuij Tonight I flew into this central hub trading system along with my slave boy. I arrived with 8 geddons, an indy full of large smartbombs and the firm intention of sending Concord and the empire scum they protect straight to hell. Over the next 1.5 hours over 33 pilots lost thier ships and/or pods in this "safe" 0.9 Concord ridden system. These sensless deaths could have been avoided if Concord had submited to my demands for the gates of empire to be opened to the criminal element of the Eve universe. However despite thier failed attempts to cease these attacks on thier flock of carebears, they refused to submit to my demands, as such THEY are responsible for these deaths. Unless a representitive from the filth that is Concord contacts me to discuss terms for thier surrender I will continue to return to secure systems and murder thier lowlife inbred inhabitants. KILL A COP, SAVE A PIR8 FROM JAIL. NB: no exploit was used in the above actions as verified a GM at the time. Respect --------x--------- Cassendra Assassin. Merc. Pirate. Crusaders
Cassendra	Posted - 2005.09.25 21:44:00 - [161] Originally by: Tristran Sarmatae I don't see the point of bragging that you have killed in Oursulaert. since most players there are in erly stages and the best ships they have are velators and tristans. So CONCORD are not responsible you are you killed 33 innocent starting players which had no quarell with you. do what you want to CONCORD they have never helped me so why is the best way to get at them to destroy people they don't care about anyway! Shut up, carebear :P --------x--------- Cassendra Assassin. Merc. Pirate. Crusaders
umah	Posted - 2005.09.26 02:49:00 - [162] Ok, let's see, the bounty system is supposed to take care of this. You gets a low security rating, and a big bounty. Except, the bountyee gets to collect his own bounty making a fool out of the Bountyer. Reason being, bountyer gets a fine new clone, although costly, still maybe worth the difference. Well, make the bountier pay double the difference for the new clone, so's he not only makes no money off the bounty, but pays up, or runs around skill vulnerable till he does. They was a really long thread about fixing bounties many moons ago where this and all the other good ideas already got ignored. Anywho, fars as I know, Miz is doing a grand job building up the Armageddon market, so's me hat's off to him.
Bryndal	Posted - 2005.09.26 04:32:00 - [163] Hey Miz, top job you evil git you. Cant wait for the next one :) Anyone who quits cause of this prolly should remember its a game therefore not to be taken so dead seriously. Same goes for all the guys flaming miz for this. Change the game for one persons actions? pppfffrrtt More power to miz, If i had a geddon id donate it to him :)
Caia	Posted - 2005.09.26 07:29:00 - [164] I hate pirates. Don't take that the wrong way, though. Its part of the PVP element of the game. Really, this wouldn't be half as much "fun" without them. Miz you're either insane, very rich or (probably) both. These aren't bad traits, per se. They certainly did liven up Ours for the minutes that all this carnage went down. I'm not sure if I respect you any more than the rest of the pirates, but I'm now very scared of you. To everyone who says that he made newbies quit. So? If they can't handle losing a Frigate, there's no way they'd be able to handle losing a BS. Honestly, you lose a ship, you suck it up and buy another. You get podded, you suck it up and buy new implants. Such is life in Eve. Anyone who isn't willing to accept that should stop playing now. Go try a non-PVP game.
Natasha Kerensky	Posted - 2005.09.26 18:49:00 - [165] Originally by: Caia To everyone who says that he made newbies quit. So? If they can't handle losing a Frigate, there's no way they'd be able to handle losing a BS. Honestly, you lose a ship, you suck it up and buy another. You get podded, you suck it up and buy new implants. Such is life in Eve. Anyone who isn't willing to accept that should stop playing now. Go try a non-PVP game. So you are saying CCP losing customers is a good thing?
Insane Angel	Posted - 2005.09.27 02:39:00 - [166] Originally by: Natasha Kerensky Originally by: Caia To everyone who says that he made newbies quit. So? If they can't handle losing a Frigate, there's no way they'd be able to handle losing a BS. Honestly, you lose a ship, you suck it up and buy another. You get podded, you suck it up and buy new implants. Such is life in Eve. Anyone who isn't willing to accept that should stop playing now. Go try a non-PVP game. So you are saying CCP losing customers is a good thing? Aint Mizs problem. CCP's problem. Hes roleplaying and hes following the rules. **** off.
SULAN BARHIR	Posted - 2005.09.27 09:19:00 - [167] ccp losing non pvp-oriented players is a good thing... so yea *Don't get in my Hit List. It's hard to get out.*
ASIV TRE	Posted - 2005.09.27 09:35:00 - [168] Originally by: Caia To everyone who says that he made newbies quit. So? If they can't handle losing a Frigate, there's no way they'd be able to handle losing a BS. Honestly, you lose a ship, you suck it up and buy another. You get podded, you suck it up and buy new implants. Such is life in Eve. Anyone who isn't willing to accept that should stop playing now. Go try a non-PVP game. Where as PVP does play abig part in Eve its not the only thing that makes this game, thats why it is so good. Even one of the dev's i believe said thats why they have secure and unsecure space, if you want to stay out of pvp in eve it should be possible as it should be upto you how you play this game. Also if you had been playing this game like 2 days and u get podded in your very first frig, in what you thought was secure space i think you might think twice about carrying on playing this game
Kaaii	Posted - 2005.09.27 13:25:00 - [169] I like attention too, can i have some also?? "..Id rather fall beside 10 lions, then stand with One thousand sheep.." http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/flash/posting.php
Natasha Kerensky	Posted - 2005.09.27 15:55:00 - [170] Edited by: Natasha Kerensky on 27/09/2005 15:56:07 Originally by: SULAN BARHIR ccp losing non pvp-oriented players is a good thing... so yea EDIT: never mind, i dont feel like arguing with this guy ----------------------------------- Originally by: Solo Pwnmobile Destroyed items: Type: Ogre I (Drone Bay) Type: Dread Guristas Spinnaz -I (Fitted - Bling slot)
Jenny Spitfire	Posted - 2005.09.27 17:02:00 - [171] Related continuation: http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=229087 ♥♥♥♥♥
Tristran Sarmatae	Posted - 2005.09.27 17:13:00 - [172] Originally by: Cassendra Originally by: Tristran Sarmatae I don't see the point of bragging that you have killed in Oursulaert. since most players there are in erly stages and the best ships they have are velators and tristans. So CONCORD are not responsible you are you killed 33 innocent starting players which had no quarell with you. do what you want to CONCORD they have never helped me so why is the best way to get at them to destroy people they don't care about anyway! Shut up, carebear :P what a delightful adition to the discussion i was simply stating that the way to get at CONCORD is not through the people they don't care for i.e everyone in the game whos not controlled by a computer i myself don't care for CONCORD they have not helped me anytime ive been in trouble so by all means hassle CONCORD ships. just don't go to the trouble of masacering 33 innocents to try and get them to open the gates to pirates.
Malthros Zenobia	Posted - 2005.09.27 18:01:00 - [173] Miz is just showing that CONCORD, and other higher-level NPCs should pod people they're aggressive to. The current setup is like this: Concord: Ok we blew up his ship, we won't touch his pod though. miz gets into another ship Concord: SHIP! FIRE! KILL!!! If you've got a low enough sec status, CONCORD and the governemtn ships should opne fire on you, ship or pod. Same goes for pirates who REALLY hate you (and are higher level). I noticed no players go after Miz when he does this stuff. WHY? He's -9.9 sec, so concord wouldn't attack someone for podding him (i think), and even if they did, the 30+ mil bounty would be worth it for a new player. I logged in last night, ready to go take that chance, and he was leaving when I got there (I missed all the 'fun' ). Still, surely it wouldn't be hard for a player with a couple months of time to pin him down and nuke his pod straight to hell, would it?
Jenny Spitfire	Posted - 2005.09.27 18:58:00 - [174] I dont get this part, if he is -9.9. How did he get into Jita with an Arma and terrorises the place without being shot down by Concord the moment he enters the system? ♥♥♥♥♥
ASIV TRE	Posted - 2005.09.27 19:36:00 - [175] Edited by: ASIV TRE on 27/09/2005 19:39:15 Originally by: Jenny Spitfire I dont get this part, if he is -9.9. How did he get into Jita with an Arma and terrorises the place without being shot down by Concord the moment he enters the system? Have alook earlier on in this thread he explains there, i heard miz is doing this coz he tried to get into the carebear club but they wouldnt accpet him
Jenny Spitfire	Posted - 2005.09.27 20:00:00 - [176] Originally by: ASIV TRE Edited by: ASIV TRE on 27/09/2005 19:39:15 Originally by: Jenny Spitfire I dont get this part, if he is -9.9. How did he get into Jita with an Arma and terrorises the place without being shot down by Concord the moment he enters the system? Have alook earlier on in this thread he explains there, i heard miz is doing this coz he tried to get into the carebear club but they wouldnt accpet him Perhaps I have misunderstood something. I thought he would be able to fly an arma into Jita in the first place, nevertheless, killing so many peeps on Jita once he entered it? I am confused ;s Sorry. ♥♥♥♥♥
ASIV TRE	Posted - 2005.09.27 20:31:00 - [177] Well i think he got his alt to take the ships out to a SS and eject, he comes in, in his pod and goes to the safe, his alt then scouts out a suitable defenceless person, he gets in ships warps straight to alt and bang. Or thats how i think he did it if anyone would like to correct me please do
Jenny Spitfire	Posted - 2005.09.27 20:45:00 - [178] Originally by: ASIV TRE Well i think he got his alt to take the ships out to a SS and eject, he comes in, in his pod and goes to the safe, his alt then scouts out a suitable defenceless person, he gets in ships warps straight to alt and bang. Or thats how i think he did it if anyone would like to correct me please do Thanks for the explanation. Sounds logical though except for one thing. Wouldnt the moment when he enters the ship from his pod, Concord will just spawn immediately and nuked him to a pod? ♥♥♥♥♥
Morsus Argent	Posted - 2005.09.27 21:00:00 - [179] Originally by: Jenny Spitfire Thanks for the explanation. Sounds logical though except for one thing. Wouldnt the moment when he enters the ship from his pod, Concord will just spawn immediately and nuked him to a pod? From the first page of this thread: Originally by: Miz Cenuij ...I warped in in my pod, boarded the ship and fired up the smartbombs. The concord scum then warped in and started to light my ship up. Sometimes I even managed two activations of the bombs thanks to the shield extenders in my med slots.
Jenny Spitfire	Posted - 2005.09.27 21:05:00 - [180] Originally by: Morsus Argent Originally by: Miz Cenuij ...I warped in in my pod, boarded the ship and fired up the smartbombs. The concord scum then warped in and started to light my ship up. Sometimes I even managed two activations of the bombs thanks to the shield extenders in my med slots. Thanks I did miss something but also got confused about the part here... "... boarded the ship and fired up the smartbombs." Concord will nuke him when he fires up his bombs, however, when he enters his ship from a pod, he is still free to make himself a living missile by warping to his alt and active his bombs. My confusion is, shouldnt he be nuked as he enters his ship from pod? Thanks for making it clear for me. A bit slow here, sorry. LOL. ♥♥♥♥♥
Morsus Argent	Posted - 2005.09.27 21:09:00 - [181] Originally by: Jenny Spitfire My confusion is, shouldnt he be nuked as he enters his ship from pod? As I understand it, CONCORD take a moment to show up and get blasting, so he has time to fire off a round (or two, as he mentions) of smartbomb blasts before the ship gets nuked.
Tenacha Khan	Posted - 2005.09.27 21:59:00 - [182] Originally by: Jenny Spitfire Originally by: Morsus Argent Originally by: Miz Cenuij ...I warped in in my pod, boarded the ship and fired up the smartbombs. The concord scum then warped in and started to light my ship up. Sometimes I even managed two activations of the bombs thanks to the shield extenders in my med slots. Thanks I did miss something but also got confused about the part here... "... boarded the ship and fired up the smartbombs." Concord will nuke him when he fires up his bombs, however, when he enters his ship from a pod, he is still free to make himself a living missile by warping to his alt and active his bombs. My confusion is, shouldnt he be nuked as he enters his ship from pod? Thanks for making it clear for me. A bit slow here, sorry. LOL. his alt char finds the person and sits beside that person in the geddon, miz flys in in his pod, his alt ejects and he boards then fires the smartbombs. He doesnt board the ship at ss and then warp in.
Miz Cenuij	Posted - 2005.09.27 22:24:00 - [183] Yes indeed 25+ people were killed in Jita last night for the cause, 25+ of my own doing, there were also a few others who took up arms against Concord while i was there and attacked targets of thier own choosing. Today I have been contacted by a a representetive of the Blood Raiders who have given me thier fullest backing in this war against Concord and by way of demonstrating thier support have donated 1 Billion isk to the cause. Tonight in honour of my new and most prominent backers Iam headed to another system with 10 fully loaded Geddons and the firm intention of sending more Concord scum and the slave dogs they protect straight to hell for thier crimes against humanity. LONG LIVE THE FREEDOM FIGHTERS, LONG LIVE THE PIR8'S OF EVE. "Men are going to die.. and im going to kill them".
Jenny Spitfire	Posted - 2005.09.28 05:19:00 - [184] Originally by: Tenacha Khan his alt char finds the person and sits beside that person in the geddon, miz flys in in his pod, his alt ejects and he boards then fires the smartbombs. He doesnt board the ship at ss and then warp in. Ahah... I finally got it. Thanks for the explanation, Tenacha. Others as well too. <3 all! ♥♥♥♥♥
Jenny Spitfire	Posted - 2005.09.28 05:20:00 - [185] Originally by: Miz Cenuij LONG LIVE THE FREEDOM FIGHTERS, LONG LIVE THE PIR8'S OF EVE. Oooooooooh, nice RP in Eve ;) ♥♥♥♥♥
ASIV TRE	Posted - 2005.09.28 07:40:00 - [186] Edited by: ASIV TRE on 28/09/2005 07:42:40 Yeah sorry Jenny got confused, thought he boarded his ship at his SS but forgot it was right next to the person. Miz surely your not shooting concord are u? Your shooting indy's and miners. Miz you wouldnt wanna shoot at something that can shoot back would you
BillTheGalacticHero	Posted - 2005.10.01 01:45:00 - [187] Edited by: BillTheGalacticHero on 01/10/2005 01:47:04 Edited by: BillTheGalacticHero on 01/10/2005 01:46:23 Well given my quote is the last in the vid i kinda feel a bit honoured. That said... I can see how it was done. I can see why it was done. I definitely can see when it was done! What I dont get is why a trick of game mechanics has made this such a big deal. Ok we get a guy with more money than brains, uses the game mechanics to get into high security space, and then frags a bunch of new players and ppl in paper thin haulers. (insert polite golf clap here) Bravo. Quite frankly I didnt even realize I was in my escape pod until I had jumped through the gate into Renyns. Ok so role play was involved ? Honestly, I dont read the crime and punishment thread as I dont care what is happening there, and I would assume others dont either. So in that respect the warning fell on deaf ears here. I must admit I did post a petition about your conduct, as I realized rather quickly that you were indeed taking advantage of game mechanics to conduct your mayhem. But I guess that is for CCP to determine and adjudicate. I guess all I can say is bravo for circumventing the game mechanics and nuking a bunch of ppl who didnt see it comming, a true suicide bomber, oopps sorry you were insta warping away. Sorry a true remote bomber. BTW did you get your concessions from concord ? (what were they anyways?) Regards PrincessButterCup
Miz Cenuij	Posted - 2005.10.01 06:36:00 - [188] Thanks for the support everyone (empire scum excluded). It was great fun and I never expected it become such a large event. This happened not just because of myself, but because of many of you as well, from the people who turned up to hunt me, others just to watch events as they unfolded and the victims who took it on the chin, all contributed to what has been a great week in Eve. Many other people have or have threatened to leave Eve owing to these events, tbh this didnt bother in the slightest, however it is worth noting that iam not the one recieving they monthly subs from these people and ccp's actions are simply protecting the investment they have put into the game. Somthing to consider though, if this was a Dev run event and an evil NPC pirate had been set loose in hub systems in the same manner as I was, would many of these same peoples reactions and over reactions have been the same, or would they have a applauded a great and interactive event hosted by CCP ? Last week my actions were given the thumbs up by a GM, ISD even caried out an interview, however last night it was decided that this decision be reversed. I had offered to roleplay an end to this Concord war but the more severe aproach was taken. Again many many thanks to everyone who contributed in gameplay, isk, support and of course corpses Very Happy To Concord - In the words of the big man himself "I'll be back", this isnt over concord, not by a long way. To all you empire inbred scum who cower behind Concord - I may not yet have freedom to fly through your empire at will, but when you enter 0.4 and under keep, your eyes open, because you sure as hell wont be flying through my space either. YARRRR GG everyone "Men are going to die.. and im going to kill them".
Ja'kar	Posted - 2005.10.01 11:37:00 - [189] Edited by: Ja''kar on 01/10/2005 11:41:16 Was one of the most original movies I have seen yet. well done m8
Valshim Haldakauer	Posted - 2005.10.02 12:30:00 - [190] some of you talk about real life in this topic... In real life... ... after the first geddon destroyed, Miz will be captured and killed for crimes, and his clone destroyed. ... police make crusaders agains pirates and special forces take them down easly. ... a pirate cannot get insurance for anything cause the corporation that insure a pirate ship is to be considered piracy corporation and police strike them down immediately. ... you will be not able to declare war agains anyone (like Microsoft declare war on Netscape and Microsoft soldier begin to kill Netscape soldier) ... all pirates will be forced to stay cover and very very very very far away from the civilized area. So for all this reason, CCP gived to piracy in EVE the upper hand, sacrificing reality, and now you want also be freely to go anywhere? About what happened, your fight agains concord is this: a lose of money and time, and you are still able even to play cause this is not real life so Concord do not hunt you down. Think in real life: all 4 empire + Concord police that hunt you down even in 0.0, then capture you and kill you, and you forced to start again with a noob player... You will do this massacre anyway Miz? EVE system give to piracy already an absurd violation of real life... About the movie... I never seen a so stupid action... you have been totally massacrated by concord...
Muppetshow	Posted - 2005.10.02 12:51:00 - [191] http://www.eve-files.com/media/corp/c0w/Mass_Murder.wmv I couldn't find a clicky on the first page, so here is one
Inga Krellior	Posted - 2005.10.02 15:07:00 - [192] Nice one dude. I'm still seeing you all over Concord's bilboards
sokken	Posted - 2005.10.02 16:39:00 - [193] without having read the entire thread.. Have you considered smartbombing the undock area of the popular stations? the carnage should be total -

Eris Discordia	Posted - 2005.10.02 16:40:00 - [194] Time for a lock, thread has run its course. I heart all, some more then others though.


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