ya know, with all of these anti cloaking devices people come up with i can't help but think.

what becomes of us poor capital pilots who happen to be using a cloak? we can't de-cloak and warp, more then likely we will be scanned down before we would manage to warp. it really brings up a point that no one seems to notice, more people use cloaks then the silly people in cov-ops looking for an easy kill. you need a better solution then just, "lets create the easiest to avoid method to de-cloak someone possible!"

you don't need an offensive method to deal with the cloak, you need a way to prevent or mitigate the potential damage they can cause rather then just remain posed/docked up.

long story short, as much as i hate the cloakers in my system, i would hate to have my carrier destroyed after escaping a failed engagement because all of a sudden my cloak doesn't work.

No need to bring your fleet and take down the POS. Just go abuse the cloaking system.

When you answer the question "how do you know?", is when you know the answer to the question "why do you care?".

Don't be dumb.

We don't recieve free intel that tells us when people are actually active when uncloaked why should you receve free intel about others that are cloaked?

It's like your trying make a argument you deserve something easier while the cloakers deserve less.

I'd say this is pretty much irrelevant. Cloaked intel gatherers are already marginalized enough as it is with the metagame of using spies, you want people to use more advanced/demanding intel tactics than that. If you're going to have some sort of mechanic where the cloaked guy is made into being discoverable, then you have to add some sort of mechanic to allow the cloaked guy to perform long-term intel-gathering by being undiscoverable. Add an uncomfortable compromise, like making them weak as a kitten and utterly defenseless, and you'll make your suggestion more balanced.

I guess there's lots of cloaky bomber pilots posting here! The point the OP is making is to try to make the AFK cloaker who just wants to shut down a system by warping to a safe spot cloaking up & going AFK in the knowledge that everyone is looking at local & sees a red in system & docks up. The psychological & physical risk is 100% on everyone else in that system & none on the cloaky guy.
A system like the OP says would at least make sure that any cloaky red in system is actively hunting/scouting & therefore moving rather than AFK & no threat, and is now a target.

if afk cloaking would be nerfed, instant local must go as well,
because afk cloaking is the only way currently to subvert local intel.

Its simple as that. Otherwise it would be too easy to avoid any danger.

There we have the "absolute safety" bullshit card again.

Do you really think I can undock in any ship, even a velator, go to sleep for 8+ hours and wake up to a ship and not a pod in a station?

Oh, so it's safety if I'm paying attention.

And I've tried this theory of undocking in a velator and just hanging around, multiple times. It's died every time.

yes, if paying attention = watching local then its too much safety for too little effort. Obvious.
This is why people afk cloak, to take you this kind of safety. Thats absolutely all right and viable.

you tried that in a wrong place.

And it brings out the ******** gankers who just want to remove local because they're so bad at ganking they can't even catch the unwary.

Oh really. A backwater end system with nobody else in system is "a wrong place"? What's the "right place" then?

like I said.. nearly absolute safety for almost no effort. You disagree?

then you are either very bad at eve or very unlucky.
As I said, for the most parts of zero, there arent hostiles for hours or even days.

Lord Zim isnt even playing this game anymore, just sperging in forums about it.
His last eve-kill record was in fact a loss of a VELATOR, 2 years ago, which he still cant get over apparently! :-D

No, it's not "like you said". You said "absolute safety", not "nearly absolute safety".

I guess next you'll say that having the possibility of detecting cloaked ships will bring forth "absolute safety" as well..

its practically the same. You cant be killed if you watch local and dont want to get involved in pvp. The chance of that is very very slim. Watch local -> never get killed.

yes, it will. Having the ability of probing out cloaked ships would kill afk cloaking, which is exactly something I tried to tell you about in my previous postings.

a f*gg*t spotted.
get the f*ck out if you dont have any real argument.