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Anders Shepard
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
14
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Posted - 2013.04.25 20:27:00 -
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My name is Anders Shepard and racism is not okay. |

Klymer
Hedion University Amarr Empire
200
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Posted - 2013.04.25 20:28:00 -
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if ya ask me the pic looks a lot like the fat dude on stage
oh and before anyone says ****, Im a fat dude in real life so I can drop the fat card on whomever I want. |

James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation RAZOR Alliance
4713
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Posted - 2013.04.25 20:28:00 -
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Reuben Johnson wrote:The only thing I'm "upset" about is CCP wanting to institute Communist ideals of wealth distribution in a game based on the concept of Capitalistic free market values. Im no fan of Goons, but it's a war game, if you want their stuff, go take. Asking the government (CCP) to do it for you is what Ghetto Queens and Trailer Trash do. Now theire's a stereotype. Where are you seeing any of this? Module activation timers are buggy. CCP please fix. |

Some Rando
University of Caille Gallente Federation
827
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Posted - 2013.04.25 20:29:00 -
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Looks like a guy with a beard and a big nose rubbing his hands together in evil glee, I don't see the issue here. CCP has no sense of humour. |

Esharan
Dissident Aggressors Mordus Angels
18
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Posted - 2013.04.25 20:29:00 -
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John Ratcliffe wrote:Esharan wrote: Also to the guy who said "people need to get over it." lol wut?
Get over a Holocaust that was just over 60 years ago, and was propagated by images just like this and started out as just general stereotypes just like this?? yeah? You think it's just as easy as that bro??? Bro??? Clearly you have/had no one involved.....Grow up you in-sensitive, apathetic, twerp....
*sigh* People have killed people throughout history. The Vikings, the Romans, the Syrians, the Turks, more recently the Bosnians & Serbs etc. etc. etc. Jews are not unique. Stop going on as though you are because it's boring quite frankly. Yes, it was tragic, but don't think that gives you the right to use that tragedy as a stick to beat the rest of the World with.
Typical anti-semetic sentiment, shrugging off the Holocaust by saying "get over people have died throughout history". I'm not saying killing hasn't been a part of history for...forever, but just because death has been around since the beginning doesn't diminish the scope and scale of the atrocities committed on the Jews, nor the reasons why, nor the scope/scale and absolute generational impact it had/has and will continue to have.
There has never been a genocide of such a methodically destructive nature, and that includes Bosnia, Serbia etc, not to detract from those horrible crimes but for you to point them as if they somehow lessen the Jewish holocaust is....I was going to say laughable, but really its just sad.
With that I withdraw from any further discussion, suffice to say it was distasteful, but I am sure not intentionally anti-semetic. |

IrJosy
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
49
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Posted - 2013.04.25 20:29:00 -
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Klymer wrote:if ya ask me the pic looks a lot like the fat dude on stage
oh and before anyone says ****, Im a fat dude in real life so I can drop the fat card on whomever I want.
The picture on the screen next to the fat dude is racist mkay. |

Solstice Project
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
3296
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Posted - 2013.04.25 20:29:00 -
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Oh wow, somebody is making fun of jews! OMG SO BAD !
Jews are just people too ! Jews are *not* special ! Jews deserve the same treatment as everybody else !
Get over it ! |

Rengerel en Distel
Amarr Science and Industry
1383
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Posted - 2013.04.25 20:30:00 -
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Anyone going to point out that the picture is photoshopped into the image, and wasn't part of the panel?
As this is taking a shot at a CCP dev, i'd expect a ban shortly on the OP.
With the increase in shiptoasting, the Report timer needs to be shortened.
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Schned Crobster
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
0
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Posted - 2013.04.25 20:30:00 -
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Anders Shepard wrote:My name is Anders Shepard and racism is not okay.
Ironic racism is still racism. |

Solstice Project
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
3296
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Posted - 2013.04.25 20:31:00 -
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Jews are *not* special ! Stop making them special ! They are just people too ! Thank you very much ! |

Owena Owoked
Apocalypse Reign
21
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Posted - 2013.04.25 20:31:00 -
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Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:Stereotyping is bad mmkay.
If it wasn't based in reality it wouldn't be a stereotype. Just saying'. |

Esharan
Dissident Aggressors Mordus Angels
18
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Posted - 2013.04.25 20:31:00 -
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Rengerel en Distel wrote:Anyone going to point out that the picture is photoshopped into the image, and wasn't part of the panel?
As this is taking a shot at a CCP dev, i'd expect a ban shortly on the OP.
If it was photo-shopped on that is totally disgusting, why would anyone do that...total slander and defamation. |

Esharan
Dissident Aggressors Mordus Angels
18
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Posted - 2013.04.25 20:32:00 -
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Solstice Project wrote:Jews are *not* special ! Stop making them special ! They are just people too ! Thank you very much !
Cool story child. |

Dave Stark
2845
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Posted - 2013.04.25 20:32:00 -
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Captain Tardbar wrote:Dave Stark wrote:Captain Tardbar wrote:Dave Stark wrote:i'm sorry, what's the issue here? The graphic of the Jew which was pretty much the image the National Socialists (WW2 Germany) drew on their propaganda posters. It's like if CCP showed a picture of a white actor wearing "black face". And if you don't know what that is you should google it. yeah... still not seeing the issue? So you are condoning WW2 Germany oppression and extermination of Jewish people? And that 1930's American rascism was cool, yo? [edit] If this thread is locked without an official apology, someone should report it to a Jewish anti-racism organization.
nope. nope.
still haven't pointed out why people are getting so upset about a picture in a presentation. i must admit i missed said presentation because i was having dinner with my father. however unless he ran around screaming that the jews are causing all the isk faucets or something i'm honestly not seeing why people are so upset. |

silens vesica
Corsair Cartel
1452
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Posted - 2013.04.25 20:32:00 -
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Owena Owoked wrote:Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:Stereotyping is bad mmkay.
If it wasn't based in reality it wouldn't be a stereotype. Just saying'. Not really. Stereotypes are often not based in reality, but in perception.
Dave Stark wrote: nope. nope.
still haven't pointed out why people are getting so upset about a picture in a presentation. i must admit i missed said presentation because i was having dinner with my father. however unless he ran around screaming that the jews are causing all the isk faucets or something i'm honestly not seeing why people are so upset.
Sorry mate. It *has* been pointed out. Specifically. You're chosing to be obtuse. That's not defensible. Tell someone you love them today, because life is short. But scream it at them in Esperanto, because life is also terrifying and confusing.
Didn't vote? Then you voted for NulBloc |

MeBiatch
Republic University Minmatar Republic
921
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Posted - 2013.04.25 20:32:00 -
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Garr Khan wrote:I'm all for a good-natured barb here and there, but IMHO Dr. Gu+¦mundsson, the head E.v.e. economist (or whoever made his powerpoint section) went too far this year: http://i.imgur.com/FvnAnd7.jpgThe section in question involved the discussion of a transaction tax meant to curb what is seen as an increasing wealth disparity in EVE (which I admit is very much a growing issue); while not outright mentioning them by name, the good Dr. very clearly hinted at the presence of the so-called "Je wbal" which colludes to accumulate wealth for themselves and the "Goonswarm" alliance. One can very easily see the parallel between the name this group gave themselves in good humor (they're mostly Jewish in real life, if I recall correctly) and the racial caricature of a Jewish man used in the powerpoint presentation today; I personally have to take real issue with the demonizing of an entire IRL religio-cultural group for the sake of some cheap laughs (to the E.v.e. community's credit, none were had that I noticed while watching the stream). Luckily CCP An al took over the talk before any other tragic guffaws were made...
you think that is bad... take a look at the image from the live events dev blog
http://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/if-you-smell-smoke-look-for-fire/
i complained to ccp that the image was anti-semetic and they told me to htfu and move on...
apparently the image has been on the internet for long enough that we should just get over it...
the image in question was first used by Fritz Hippler http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0386162/?ref_=tt_ov_dr in his 1940 move called the eternal jew http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0156524/
here is the first time it was used http://www.conspirazzi.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/eternal-jew-illuminati.jpg
so good luck with getting CCP to say sorry or even remove anti-semetic images... Ok, so you've corrected my spelling,do you care to make a valid point? -áThere are no stupid Questions... just stupid people... |

Anders Shepard
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
14
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Posted - 2013.04.25 20:32:00 -
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Everyone note the anti-Semites in this thread using false equivocations to support their hate and adjust their bounties accordingly. |

Skaz
Skazmanian Industries
43
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Posted - 2013.04.25 20:33:00 -
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Dave Stark wrote:i'm sorry, what's the issue here?
Picture that used be used for vilifying Jewish merchants a long time ago used in economics lecture.
It's used in modern political science lectures a lot as well for various reasons. Mostly to laugh at guys who think it's something more than a propaganda gone silly.
Also, inb4 lock... |

Sarmatiko
1053
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Posted - 2013.04.25 20:35:00 -
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Esharan wrote: There has never been a genocide of such a methodically destructive nature, and that includes Bosnia, Serbia etc, not to detract from those horrible crimes but for you to point them as if they somehow lessen the Jewish holocaust is....I was going to say laughable, but really its just sad. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Generalplan_Ost 13 millions of USSR civilian victims. Now please find any post with Russian, Ukrainian or Belorussian players crying when anyone posts offensive joke about "ruskies" in forum or local.
Just saying.
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mama guru
Thundercats The Initiative.
99
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Posted - 2013.04.25 20:35:00 -
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Esharan wrote:John Ratcliffe wrote:Esharan wrote: Also to the guy who said "people need to get over it." lol wut?
Get over a Holocaust that was just over 60 years ago, and was propagated by images just like this and started out as just general stereotypes just like this?? yeah? You think it's just as easy as that bro??? Bro??? Clearly you have/had no one involved.....Grow up you in-sensitive, apathetic, twerp....
*sigh* People have killed people throughout history. The Vikings, the Romans, the Syrians, the Turks, more recently the Bosnians & Serbs etc. etc. etc. Jews are not unique. Stop going on as though you are because it's boring quite frankly. Yes, it was tragic, but don't think that gives you the right to use that tragedy as a stick to beat the rest of the World with. Typical anti-semetic sentiment, shrugging off the Holocaust by saying "get over people have died throughout history". I'm not saying killing hasn't been a part of history for...forever, but just because death has been around since the beginning doesn't diminish the scope and scale of the atrocities committed on the Jews, nor the reasons why, nor the scope/scale and absolute generational impact it had/has and will continue to have. There has never been a genocide of such a methodically destructive nature, and that includes Bosnia, Serbia etc, not to detract from those horrible crimes but for you to point them as if they somehow lessen the Jewish holocaust is....I was going to say laughable, but really its just sad. With that I withdraw from any further discussion, suffice to say it was distasteful, but I am sure not intentionally anti-semetic.
Russians, Ukranian partisans and communists ought to take more issue with Holocaust discussion than anyone else, since they were by far the biggest victims of **** policy. Not to mention the 25 million chinese who were killed by Japan. But I suppose that doesn't matter since they were asians.
Get over yourself. This is not the place for this discussion. If a few jews wants to take the **** out of their culture, let them.
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EVE online is the fishermans friend of MMO's. If it's too hard you are too weak. |

John Ratcliffe
Sausy Sausages
146
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Posted - 2013.04.25 20:35:00 -
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Esharan wrote:
Some? There were roughly 9.5 million Jews in Europe and 15.3 million in the world prior to WW2. 6+ million were wiped out in Europe, 2 out of every 3 European Jews was killed.
That's a lot more than "Some."
In the context of the World population it is 'some'.
Quote:Man we are forgetting history, or do they not teach Modern Euro in school anymore?
I'm not forgetting history. I'm also not cherry picking stats to suit my argument. I'm English - the UK lost 47 Million people during WW2, so lets not make any English jokes ever, because that'd be in really bad taste wouldn't it? 
Quote:For the record, the number of Jews in the world still has not fully recovered, there are still only ~14 mil jews worldwide today... so the effects of the Holocaust (and yes the Russian purges) are still being felt.
I'm not Jewish. I'm 100% indifferent to what the Jewish population is.
Plus +ºa change, plus c'est la m+¬me chose |

Owena Owoked
Apocalypse Reign
21
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Posted - 2013.04.25 20:36:00 -
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silens vesica wrote:Owena Owoked wrote:Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:Stereotyping is bad mmkay.
If it wasn't based in reality it wouldn't be a stereotype. Just saying'. Not really. Stereotypes are often not based in reality, but in perception. And what is reality? It is the perception of the world around us. While stereotyping a person you just met is bad, there can in a good number of cases be a base for any stereotype that is actually considered a stereotype. If there wasn't then people wouldn't consider it a stereotype.
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silens vesica
Corsair Cartel
1453
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Posted - 2013.04.25 20:38:00 -
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Owena Owoked wrote:silens vesica wrote:Owena Owoked wrote:Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:Stereotyping is bad mmkay.
If it wasn't based in reality it wouldn't be a stereotype. Just saying'. Not really. Stereotypes are often not based in reality, but in perception. And what is reality? It is the perception of the world around us. While stereotyping a person you just met is bad, there can in a good number of cases be a base for any stereotype that is actually considered a stereotype. If there wasn't then people wouldn't consider it a stereotype. Nope. Not buying this dodge.
Tell someone you love them today, because life is short. But scream it at them in Esperanto, because life is also terrifying and confusing.
Didn't vote? Then you voted for NulBloc |

Calathorn Virpio
Golden Construction Inc. Legacy Rising
237
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Posted - 2013.04.25 20:38:00 -
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Implying Implications wrote:John Ratcliffe wrote:Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:Stereotyping is bad mmkay.
No it isn't. If it's accurate it's accurate. People need to get over it TBH. Racism is never okay.
that is an odd pic mate, how did you pull that off? CCP are the French gate camping=/=PVP everything else is fair game |

White Tree
Love Squad Confederation of xXPIZZAXx
876
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Posted - 2013.04.25 20:38:00 -
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LMAO Former member of CSM6, Champion of the Gallente Master Race. |

Dave Stark
2845
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Posted - 2013.04.25 20:41:00 -
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Skaz wrote:Dave Stark wrote:i'm sorry, what's the issue here? Picture that used be used for vilifying Jewish merchants a long time ago used in economics lecture. It's used in modern political science lectures a lot as well for various reasons. Mostly to laugh at guys who think it's something more than propaganda gone silly. Also, inb4 lock...
so a commonly used picture was used, once again?
and people are upset about that? |

DurrHurrDurr
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
591
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Posted - 2013.04.25 20:42:00 -
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It's a good thing this image was used due to its very commonplace presence in the EVE community and not because the CCP dude is a jew-hater. Shut up all you politically correct annoying penislords. |

DurrHurrDurr
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
591
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Posted - 2013.04.25 20:43:00 -
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Anyone who cares is a whiny ******* who needs to shut up. |

Myelinated
Love Squad Confederation of xXPIZZAXx
11
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Posted - 2013.04.25 20:43:00 -
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Your rights end where my feelings begin. |

Skaz
Skazmanian Industries
43
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Posted - 2013.04.25 20:44:00 -
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John Ratcliffe wrote:[quote=Esharan] I'm not forgetting history. I'm also not cherry picking stats to suit my argument. I'm English - the UK lost 47 Million people during WW2, so lets not make any English jokes ever, because that'd be in really bad taste wouldn't it? 
47 million?
Four times the total armed forces of the commonwealth in WW2? Almost the entire population of the UK in 1939?
Erhm... you've got some interesting sources... |
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