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Athena Momaki
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Posted - 2013.04.25 23:30:00 -
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Not sure were this would go so i am putting it as a discussion topic.
I just watch the Tags4sec/crime watch part of the stream and I have to say I liked most of it. But like always everyone has an idea that is different than the Devs, and so do I.
The tags are cool and I really like it, but the 4,6,6,4 I think is not the best idea. I like the 4 to get from -10:-8, and the 6 from -5:-2, and the 4 from -2:-0. The part I donGÇÖt fully agree with is the 6 to get from -8:-5. I personally think that it should be one step harder to get into .8:1.0 space again.
After you get past -5 on your way down you can no longer go into some parts of high sec. from -5 up it is just cosmetic fixing. It should be harder and cost more for people buying the tags to get from -8:-5, and take more time to find the tags over all. Most pirates wonGÇÖt even bother going past the -5:-2 anyways. This will also make it so new players are not going to be as easily hit by players that are known to suicide gank in the upper systems.
This is just my thoughts about that system. Overall I really do like it.
What was your take? and yes this is not-á my main. |
Dave Stark
2847
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Posted - 2013.04.25 23:34:00 -
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the amount of tags needed is irrelevant unless you know the drop rates of tags. |
Mr lovin
Universal Mining And Manufactoring
7
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Posted - 2013.04.25 23:39:00 -
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big bad pirates and gankers can now pay real monies to not show flahsy yay \o/ |
Felicity Love
STARKRAFT Joint Venture Conglomerate
523
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Posted - 2013.04.25 23:44:00 -
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It's also meant as a means to give value to Low Sec... get more people playing in there, as these tags will have substantial value on the Market.
Proud Beta Tester for "Bumping Uglies for Dummies" |
RubyPorto
SniggWaffe YOUR VOTES DON'T COUNT
3262
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Posted - 2013.04.25 23:51:00 -
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Mr lovin wrote:big bad pirates and gankers can now pay real monies to not show flahsy yay \o/
And then they get banned. This is EVE - Everybody Versus Everybody.
"the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built and we want to keep that (infact, this is much more representative of the consensus opinion within CCP)." -CCP Solomon |
EvilweaselSA
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
574
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Posted - 2013.04.25 23:52:00 -
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each row of tags also is a different tag so it might be harder to do a 4 tag turnin than a 6 one if their drop rate is different |
Gogela
Freeport Exploration Loosely Affiliated Pirates Alliance
2406
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Posted - 2013.04.25 23:53:00 -
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I think it's bizarre that commander and officer tags are so worthless.
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Athena Momaki
7
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Posted - 2013.04.26 01:29:00 -
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EvilweaselSA wrote:each row of tags also is a different tag so it might be harder to do a 4 tag turnin than a 6 one if their drop rate is different
But you think the ones they have at 6 would be the more rare. Only because the -8 : -5 allows people with neg sec to go into higher and higher zones.
For those that have no idea what i am talking about this is the tags Tags4Sec and yes this is not-á my main. |
Rebecha Pucontis
Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic
222
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Posted - 2013.04.26 02:15:00 -
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I dont see why low seccers need special treatement. They should just grind up standing the way everybody else does it. Put more valuable rats in low sec, but don't allow them to buy the tags from market. I guess its too late now though anyway. |
Jake Warbird
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
2441
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Posted - 2013.04.26 02:25:00 -
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Well, it's a nice idea. But most of them flashies won't care about sec anyways. |
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Olf Barrenbur
Guardians of Asceticism
26
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Posted - 2013.04.26 05:08:00 -
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I heard something about gates locking people out during that panel. Can someone please clarify? thx |
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
2656
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Posted - 2013.04.26 05:13:00 -
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Olf Barrenbur wrote:I heard something about gates locking people out during that panel. Can someone please clarify? thx
Oh the tears.... |
Alekseyev Karrde
Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group
1168
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Posted - 2013.04.26 05:28:00 -
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Rebecha Pucontis wrote:I dont see why low seccers need special treatement. They should just grind up standing the way everybody else does it. Put more valuable rats in low sec, but don't allow them to buy the tags from market. I guess its too late now though anyway. everyone will be able to buy the new tags "Alekseyev Karrde: mercenary of my heart."-á -Arydanika, Voices from the Void
Hero of the CSM Noir./Noir. Academy Recruiting: www.noirmercs.com |
Mhax Arthie
Pagan INC 9th Company
53
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Posted - 2013.04.26 06:13:00 -
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Alekseyev Karrde wrote:Rebecha Pucontis wrote:I dont see why low seccers need special treatement. They should just grind up standing the way everybody else does it. Put more valuable rats in low sec, but don't allow them to buy the tags from market. I guess its too late now though anyway. everyone will be able to buy the new tags And this is the main problem as this sound like "pay to win". I'm a pirate and I like to hurt people in hi sec. But also I don't like to waste time hunting some lame npc's. So it happens that my wallet is healty and it will allow me to buy a few plex that will allow me to have enough isk to buy those tags so I will be back in business in no time. I can understand that this will bring profit to CCP, but in a subscription based mmo this not something fair. There will be no more risk vs reward for pirates from now one, only a big I Win button.
Even for the pirates who don't allow to buy a plex or two per week/month, hunting down those npc's is a joke. Those npc's are located in our own yard, there is none to interfere with our business. So basically Concord is our best ally, if we fuk up in hi sec, they will also help us to get things straight and get back asap in hi sec to bring more drama and destruction. To be honest, I don't see any serious reason anymore to go live in null or low sec when all the combat and fun is projected to happen in hi sec. Until now CCP plan was to bring more people into null, but now it seems that they wish to bring all of us back in hi sec. |
Josef Djugashvilis
Acme Mining Corporation
1161
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Posted - 2013.04.26 06:17:00 -
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Buy PLEX - buy tags - buy status. Rinse and repeat as needed.
At least it has the virtue of being easy to understand. This is not a signature. |
Xen Solarus
Inner 5phere
394
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Posted - 2013.04.26 06:32:00 -
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Lame. Even easier for gankers to get their easy kills in highsec and not have to worry and sec issues.
I thought the whole idea was to get people to leave highsec, not reinforce them staying there?
I guess the only good thing from this will be more cash for CCP. Post with your main, like a BOSS! |
baltec1
Bat Country
6085
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Posted - 2013.04.26 06:32:00 -
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Did...did gankers get a buff?
There must be a catch somewhere. |
March rabbit
epTa Team Inc.
653
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Posted - 2013.04.26 06:32:00 -
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Athena Momaki wrote:What was your take? my take is: i don't like ability of getting rid of SS with help of ISK. We know where is the biggest amount of ISK don;'t we?
Now when somebody starts Burn Jita or whatever they need to get rid of SS. With tags they will just use their ISK to buy tags and repair SS then repeat ganking.
This will make these actions much longer. If you enjoy it -> tags is what you will like. |
baltec1
Bat Country
6085
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Posted - 2013.04.26 06:38:00 -
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March rabbit wrote:Athena Momaki wrote:What was your take? my take is: i don't like ability of getting rid of SS with help of ISK. We know where is the biggest amount of ISK don;'t we? Now when somebody starts Burn Jita or whatever they need to get rid of SS. With tags they will just use their ISK to buy tags and repair SS then repeat ganking. This will make these actions much longer. If you enjoy it -> tags is what you will like.
Nah, we will just stay -10 and use that isk on more gankboats. |
Dave Stark
2851
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Posted - 2013.04.26 06:45:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:Did...did gankers get a buff?
There must be a catch somewhere.
it's not a buff, it's just removing the tedium of grinding sec status.
no buff to see here, move along please. |
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Abernie
The Scope Gallente Federation
15
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Posted - 2013.04.26 07:08:00 -
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Grinding isn't removed. You'll just be able to have someone else do it for you. |
Vherana
Valkyrie Industries Valkyrie Coalition
2
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Posted - 2013.04.26 07:29:00 -
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Olf Barrenbur wrote:I heard something about gates locking people out during that panel. Can someone please clarify? thx That's a different matter: As of now, sec status is identical to CONCORD standing. CONCORD does have sov in some systems in HiSec. If someone with deep red sec status jumps into such a system he is trapped.
With Odyssey, CCP is separating CONCORD standing from sec status. CONCORD standing will be set to 0.0
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Marlona Sky
D00M. Northern Coalition.
3490
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Posted - 2013.04.26 08:20:00 -
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A step in the right direction to breath life into low sec.
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Solstice Project
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
3297
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Posted - 2013.04.26 08:28:00 -
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WOW ! FINALLY I CAN GO BACK TO HIGHSEC !!! |
Dave Stark
2855
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Posted - 2013.04.26 08:31:00 -
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Solstice Project wrote:WOW ! FINALLY I CAN GO BACK TO HIGHSEC !!!
but we don't want you here. |
baltec1
Bat Country
6085
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Posted - 2013.04.26 08:50:00 -
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Dave Stark wrote:Solstice Project wrote:WOW ! FINALLY I CAN GO BACK TO HIGHSEC !!! but we don't want you here.
Oh no, you keep him. |
Solstice Project
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
3298
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Posted - 2013.04.26 09:51:00 -
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Dave Stark wrote:Solstice Project wrote:WOW ! FINALLY I CAN GO BACK TO HIGHSEC !!! but we don't want you here. This is silly. As if i'd ever leave the place where all the people are and cared about my secstatus.
The so called "-10 hole", as CCP calls it, is purely imaginary anyway ... ... but as you know me, you know that already anyway.
baltec1 wrote:Dave Stark wrote:Solstice Project wrote:WOW ! FINALLY I CAN GO BACK TO HIGHSEC !!! but we don't want you here. Oh no, you keep him. Hahahahaha. xD |
Brooks Puuntai
Solar Nexus.
1299
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Posted - 2013.04.26 09:54:00 -
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So now there will be very little effort required to remove neg sec, which in return would make sec status pointless. Might as well just remove it.
[url]https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=206023&find=unread[/url] |
Ronix Aideron
The Ugly Ass Kickers
92
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Posted - 2013.04.26 12:43:00 -
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I like the idea. The issue right now is that PvP or aggression in low sec causes a penalty that is way worse than the crime. Not only would a low sec PvP'er get gate guns and a security hit but you would have to kill essentially 10 battleship rats for that transgression. Even is the person who is the victim of the aggression is a cruiser. http://eveboard.com/pilot/Ronix_Aideron |
Gary Goat
XDC-UK
32
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Posted - 2013.04.26 13:11:00 -
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Its a good change imo.
Instead of having to grind rats to get your sec status up (which a lot of people hate), you now have a choice of grinding your favourite isk making activity instead and then paying somebody else to grind the rats. If your favourite isk making activity is to grind real money in real life for plex then that's fine too.
No grinding is being removed, just more options being provided. |
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