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AnimeHeretic
Veksengo Industries Elemental Tide
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Posted - 2013.04.26 19:39:00 -
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Im not much of a miner. But what exactly am I seeing here?
http://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/resource-companion-blog
It's looks to me like they're adding huge amounts of trit and pyreite to all the high end ore.
Someone explain how this will affect ore prices. |

Akrasjel Lanate
Naquatech Conglomerate
1109
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Posted - 2013.04.26 19:41:00 -
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From what i see the point of it is to make them produce stuff in null, and the lack of trit/scord was the "problem".  |

Mynutor
Myn Mining
18
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Posted - 2013.04.26 19:46:00 -
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Prices will go down. I guess by at least 50% for Trit and pyer. Maybe even much more.
Overall mineral prices will go down, prices drop, isk devalues, Plex prices go up.
Come winter expension, every 0 sec alliance starts to build gates, mineral prices go up, plex prices normalise again. |

Makoto Priano
Priano Trans-Stellar State Services
298
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Posted - 2013.04.26 19:47:00 -
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Guess CCP agreed that low-end mining was too profitable. |

Abrazzar
Vardaugas Family
1450
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Posted - 2013.04.26 19:53:00 -
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Time to buy Zydrine and Megacyte. Mining Overhaul Nothing changed since 2008. |

Skeln Thargensen
Filthy Carebear Tax Avoidance Shell Corp
107
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Posted - 2013.04.26 19:55:00 -
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that's a buff and a half! freelance space bum |

De'Veldrin
East India Ore Trade The East India Co.
1360
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Posted - 2013.04.26 19:56:00 -
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Mynutor wrote:
Come winter expension, every 0 sec alliance starts to build gates,
Build what gates? Stargates? Dafuq is this? Malcanis for CSM 8
Eve Online: The full-contact sport for your brain. Twitter --á@DeVeldrin |

De'Veldrin
East India Ore Trade The East India Co.
1360
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Posted - 2013.04.26 19:56:00 -
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Akrasjel Lanate wrote:From what i see the point of it is to make them produce stuff in null, and the lack of trit/scord was the "problem". 
They're also adding slots to the outpost upgrades to increase manufacturing bandwidth in null.
Not nearly enough, but hey, it's something. Malcanis for CSM 8
Eve Online: The full-contact sport for your brain. Twitter --á@DeVeldrin |

Castor Narcissus
Catarse
9
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Posted - 2013.04.26 19:57:00 -
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Makoto Priano wrote:Guess CCP agreed that low-end mining was too profitable.
CCP could stick minable sleeper hulls in low sec and still no one would mine it. Reason is you don't earn enough to pay for an escort and even a skiff doesn't have enough EHP to tank anything above a cruiser to call for help.
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Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
3335
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Posted - 2013.04.26 20:01:00 -
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Hmmm... trit and py will fall through the floor! Eve will be in a recession! Panic! Flee! Horde ALL the ISK! Grab your ventures and secure your measly stockpile! ALL the PLEX will be worthless!!!!!!!!!!!!!
In short, the main bullet point to take away from this is that Eve is dying, and this will kill it faster. Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings? |
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Dave Stark
2866
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Posted - 2013.04.26 20:02:00 -
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at current prices, all null sec ores will be worth at least 8 isk/m3 more than the highest high sec ores. that's the minimum difference.
the average value of a large null sec mining anom will be roughly 24.4% higher than that of scordite. (before rorqual bonuses)
null sec mining is worth doing, once more. assuming prices don't change. any price changes will be making low ends worth less and widening that 8isk gap due to the increased supply of low end minerals. |

Octoven
Phoenix Productions Headshot Gaming
78
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Posted - 2013.04.26 20:11:00 -
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At current prices Spodumain is worth 106.55 isk/m3 which is the most worthless garbage of all the ores. With the new release stats and using current mineral prices Spodumain is worth 243 isk/m3 an enormous and much needed change. |

Octoven
Phoenix Productions Headshot Gaming
78
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Posted - 2013.04.26 20:12:00 -
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De'Veldrin wrote:Mynutor wrote:
Come winter expension, every 0 sec alliance starts to build gates,
Build what gates? Stargates? Dafuq is this?
Yes EVE Colonization will feature the ability for sov holders to build stargates. |

DarthNefarius
Minmatar Heavy Industries
936
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Posted - 2013.04.26 20:27:00 -
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Skeln Thargensen wrote:that's a buff and a half!
THE ABC'S HAVE BECOME SUPERVELD'S & SUPER SCORDS!!!  An' then [email protected], he come scramblin outta theTerminal room screaming "The system's crashing! The system'scrashing!" -Uncle RAMus, 'Tales for Cyberpsychotic Children' |

Shepard Wong Ogeko
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
436
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Posted - 2013.04.26 20:30:00 -
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DarthNefarius wrote:Skeln Thargensen wrote:that's a buff and a half! THE ABC'S HAVE BECOME SUPERVELD'S & SUPER SCORDS!!! 
And they are adding more factory slots to player built outposts.
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Kurfin
Kippers and Jam Developments
54
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Posted - 2013.04.26 20:38:00 -
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It all depends on how much industry moves out to null as a result. I guess it will greatly reduce the low ends being shipped out of high for capitals, but I'm not sure what percentage of high sec minerals end up in caps. Only time will tell how many null alliances bother to make their subcaps out in null, rather than ship in from high, as a result of these changes.
I can't see much trit and pyrite being shipped into high sec from null, a freighter full of the stuff isn't going to be worth enough for them to bother. |

Kali Omega
Immortalis Inc. Shadow Cartel
133
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Posted - 2013.04.26 20:39:00 -
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Octoven wrote:De'Veldrin wrote:Mynutor wrote:
Come winter expension, every 0 sec alliance starts to build gates,
Build what gates? Stargates? Dafuq is this? Yes EVE Colonization will feature the ability for sov holders to build stargates.
Could you link or cut paste the article on this...cant view most of the eve news on work computer. |

Mara Rinn
Cosmic Goo Convertor Cosmic Consortium
3284
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Posted - 2013.04.26 20:42:00 -
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Hisec miners can kiss their income goodbye, and Spod will return to being the least valuable ore in the game (adding 10k of something worth 0 ISK means you are reducing the value of that ore).
Good job, CCP. I though you were past the sledge-hammer-instead-of-a-scalpel approach to rebalancing?
Day 0 advice for new players: Day 0 Advice for New Players |

Mara Rinn
Cosmic Goo Convertor Cosmic Consortium
3284
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Posted - 2013.04.26 20:44:00 -
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Kali Omega wrote:Could you link or cut paste the article on this...cant view most of the eve news on work computer.
No article yet, this was CCP Seagull's closing comments during the EVE Keynote: basically that you will be able to build and destroy critical infrastructure such as star gates. Expect to hear a lot more about this over the next six months as people get over the rush of Odyssey :)
Day 0 advice for new players: Day 0 Advice for New Players |

Dave Stark
2868
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Posted - 2013.04.26 20:49:00 -
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Mara Rinn wrote:Hisec miners can kiss their income goodbye, and Spod will return to being the least valuable ore in the game (adding 10k of something worth 0 ISK means you are reducing the value of that ore).
Good job, CCP. I though you were past the sledge-hammer-instead-of-a-scalpel approach to rebalancing?
10,000 trit from veldspar. 333m3 of ore 10,000 trit from spod. 4000m3 of ore.
trit obtained from 4000m3 of veldspar, 120,000
you're getting 12x the trit, from veldspar than you do spod.
also even at current prices, spod is already ahead of veldspar and a fall in trit prices only widens the gap due to spod's other mineral content. |
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Skeln Thargensen
Filthy Carebear Tax Avoidance Shell Corp
108
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Posted - 2013.04.26 20:49:00 -
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DarthNefarius wrote:Skeln Thargensen wrote:that's a buff and a half! THE ABC'S HAVE BECOME SUPERVELD'S & SUPER SCORDS!!! 
yeah but that's not necessarily going to kill high sec mining. if there was an expansion of null production on the same order then that probably would kill the trit and pyerite ores. I expect demand will fall a bit and kernite and omber will be the new kings but production in highsec wants ore in highsec. freelance space bum |

Some Rando
University of Caille Gallente Federation
836
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Posted - 2013.04.26 20:50:00 -
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Mara Rinn wrote:Hisec miners can kiss their income goodbye This can only be a good thing. CCP has no sense of humour. |

Mara Rinn
Cosmic Goo Convertor Cosmic Consortium
3285
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Posted - 2013.04.26 20:52:00 -
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Some Rando wrote:This can only be a good thing.
Can't run a company with no income. Day 0 advice for new players: Day 0 Advice for New Players |

Dave Stark
2868
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Posted - 2013.04.26 20:53:00 -
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Mara Rinn wrote:Some Rando wrote:This can only be a good thing. Can't run a company with no income.
can't tax mining, who cares what their income is. |

Skeln Thargensen
Filthy Carebear Tax Avoidance Shell Corp
108
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Posted - 2013.04.26 20:54:00 -
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Hey will this effect wh space? it's technically 0.0 right? freelance space bum |

Some Rando
University of Caille Gallente Federation
836
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Posted - 2013.04.26 20:55:00 -
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Skeln Thargensen wrote:Hey will this effect wh space? it's technically 0.0 right? It's the ore types themselves, so grav sites... oh wait...
E: Aren't grav sites being redone? If not, WHs should see this change. CCP has no sense of humour. |

DarthNefarius
Minmatar Heavy Industries
936
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Posted - 2013.04.26 21:00:00 -
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Mynutor wrote:Prices will go down. I guess by at least 50% for Trit and pyer. Maybe even much more.
Overall mineral prices will go down, prices drop, isk devalues, Plex prices go up.
Come winter expension, every 0 sec alliance starts to build gates, mineral prices go up, plex prices normalise again.
I expect an immediate huge drop in veld/scord with speculation forcing their prices down ~50% cuasing a greater shortage for the intro of Odyssy's tieracide changes paradox sure but peeps will probably dump thier surplus now like crazy  An' then [email protected], he come scramblin outta theTerminal room screaming "The system's crashing! The system'scrashing!" -Uncle RAMus, 'Tales for Cyberpsychotic Children' |

Dave Stark
2869
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Posted - 2013.04.26 21:02:00 -
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Some Rando wrote:Skeln Thargensen wrote:Hey will this effect wh space? it's technically 0.0 right? It's the ore types themselves, so grav sites... oh wait... E: Aren't grav sites being redone? If not, WHs should see this change.
no grav sites from exploration aren't being touched. grav sites from sov upgrades are being turned in to anomolies, though. |

Tarryn Nightstorm
Hellstar Towing and Recovery
748
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Posted - 2013.04.26 21:07:00 -
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MINE ALL THE THINGS!!!!111oneoneeleven! Meta-gaming for carebears:
Whine on the forums like a little ***** until CCP gets sick of you and hands you everything you ask for just to shut you up. |

Some Rando
University of Caille Gallente Federation
836
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Posted - 2013.04.26 21:08:00 -
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Dave Stark wrote:no grav sites from exploration aren't being touched. grav sites from sov upgrades are being turned in to anomolies, though. Ah, thanks. So WHs should get these awesome changes in their sites. CCP has no sense of humour. |
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