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Silver Night
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Posted - 2005.10.01 02:55:00 -
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By teh same token, bring a market station, there probably isn't much of a marklet in providence, not too many people live there all the time. Coure, could be a good place too, guess they will do thier research.
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Silver Night
Director -Production and Science
Help the State, Make tens of millions!
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Aceformat
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Posted - 2005.10.01 03:24:00 -
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I've gotta say this is a very large step for anyone to take really.
But will it really bring that much in the way of commerce, most alliances if not all alliances are self sufficient able to build, research, refine, thier own stuff, the only thing that would sell in this "Hub" would be NPC loot??
Also, getting to and from this place is going to be like a rat race ... will I make it though the next system? Which Pirate corp hangs out down here?
Even if the system/Region does become "Zoned" with an agreement from alliances not to shoot travellers, what happens to the travellers after this area? Most alliances have a NBSI/KOS policy within their home regions and again the systems set aside by alliances for traversing or "Free space" is frequented by pirate corps such as the short bus squad (Sry guys your name came to me first) who will kill anything that moves .... quickly
Sorry I'd love to see it work, but for the simple reasons above I doubt the "Neutral" station will work at all, and for more reasons just look through this thread!
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Sorja
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Posted - 2005.10.01 04:37:00 -
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In other words, you re-invented Switzerland 
Cool idea, I hope for you it is successful 
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Serenity Steele
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Posted - 2005.10.01 12:25:00 -
[94]
 Originally by: DazDoorstep Challenge
Edited by: DazDoorstep Challenge on 30/09/2005 12:06:48
ok, since no one is looking at the bigger picture so I will have to spell it out.
ISS have a hidden agenda.
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OMG did I have to laugh hard at this conspiracy theory. I have to admit it could be reasonably plausable, except for the key fact that as the ISS helps colonise diverse parts of eve, we are equally bound to remain netural as other alliances and corporations are to recognise us as neutral.
Were we to follow the consipiracy you describe, our member corp would leave out of principle, it would mean a hostile environment to many many of our members in other regions. Not to mention alliance scale wars that would be unsustainable to our existence.
The scratching backs only works if you both do it, and we're solidly committed to remaining a pure economic entity :)
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Kyguard
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Posted - 2005.10.01 14:50:00 -
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Originally by: Serenity Steele
Originally by: DazDoorstep Challenge
ok, since no one is looking at the bigger picture so I will have to spell it out.
ISS have a hidden agenda.
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OMG did I have to laugh hard at this conspiracy theory. I have to admit it could be reasonably plausable, except for the key fact that as the ISS helps colonise diverse parts of eve, we are equally bound to remain netural as other alliances and corporations are to recognise us as neutral.
Were we to follow the consipiracy you describe, our member corp would leave out of principle, it would mean a hostile environment to many many of our members in other regions. Not to mention alliance scale wars that would be unsustainable to our existence.
The scratching backs only works if you both do it, and we're solidly committed to remaining a pure economic entity :)
Wait a minute...you're not building a clone army too are you?
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Ehrine Ashbark
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Posted - 2005.10.01 19:40:00 -
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Good job I wasn't drinking when I read that or I'd have blown a load of it out of my nose into my keyboard :)
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Cell Satimo
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Posted - 2005.10.01 21:26:00 -
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Edited by: Cell Satimo on 01/10/2005 21:26:50
Gratz on your project. Been good working with yall in Period Basis. I hope this doesn't mean you'll be moving out.
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quellious
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Posted - 2005.10.02 12:02:00 -
[98]
Hi,
I'm sorry but i still do not understand the purpose of such an outpost ?
If you really want to developp economy in 0.0, you have plenty non-conquerable NPC stations in Delve, where everyone can dock, with factory, laboratory, and all usefull infrastructure. You just need to fill them with items. You could already test the 'Neutral-Hub' idea with those stations.
The only reason i see for an outpost is to lower POS fuel consumption. Question now is : Who will benefit from those POS ?
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Kyguard
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Posted - 2005.10.02 13:54:00 -
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Originally by: quellious
Hi,
I'm sorry but i still do not understand the purpose of such an outpost ?
If you really want to developp economy in 0.0, you have plenty non-conquerable NPC stations in Delve, where everyone can dock, with factory, laboratory, and all usefull infrastructure. You just need to fill them with items. You could already test the 'Neutral-Hub' idea with those stations.
The only reason i see for an outpost is to lower POS fuel consumption. Question now is : Who will benefit from those POS ?
Keyword is everyone. If they build an outpost, they will be able to control it a lot easier than if it was an NPC station. Plus, cmon...its an outpost since when have you docked at one? 
The benefits of the POS bonus will most likely be used by the ISS as they manage a large number of these.
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JoCool
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Posted - 2005.10.02 14:11:00 -
[100]
Great vision, make it come true!
It'll be a fine place to exchange loot. But to be honest, I think CCP should give 2 or 4 guns or missile bays with these stations - so they're able to maintain a no-fire zone around the station.
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Kyguard
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Posted - 2005.10.02 14:38:00 -
[101]
Originally by: JoCool
Great vision, make it come true!
It'll be a fine place to exchange loot. But to be honest, I think CCP should give 2 or 4 guns or missile bays with these stations - so they're able to maintain a no-fire zone around the station.
Yes please 
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Serenity Steele
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Posted - 2005.10.02 18:44:00 -
[102]
Originally by: quellious
Hi,
I'm sorry but i still do not understand the purpose of such an outpost ?
If you really want to developp economy in 0.0, you have plenty non-conquerable NPC stations in Delve, where everyone can dock, with factory, laboratory, and all usefull infrastructure. You just need to fill them with items. You could already test the 'Neutral-Hub' idea with those stations.
The only reason i see for an outpost is to lower POS fuel consumption. Question now is : Who will benefit from those POS ?
The purpose of the outpost is to establish a trade Hub to become the Yulai of 0.0, the southern regions were chosen for their proximity to a set of neutral space and distance from NPC stations.
The reason the NPC stations in delve can't be used for the same purpose is that last time I looked, BoB claimed Delve and KOS anyone they haven't approved in the area.
Investment Opportunity:
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Baldour Ngarr
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Posted - 2005.10.02 19:03:00 -
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BoB could certainly do it there if they wanted to; but since they haven't yet, apparently they don't want to.
ISS does, and is working towards it. 
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Alithieniel Cascade
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Posted - 2005.10.02 20:37:00 -
[104]
nice
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Fillmeup
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Posted - 2005.10.02 22:44:00 -
[105]
Originally by: JoCool
Great vision, make it come true!
It'll be a fine place to exchange loot. But to be honest, I think CCP should give 2 or 4 guns or missile bays with these stations - so they're able to maintain a no-fire zone around the station.
Now that is a fantastic idea. Would be nice to see a station that would fire on anyone who aggresses within, say, 150km of the station. Purely to keep it friendly is all, and with no exemptions to stop it being used as a weapons platform on innocent parties.
I must admit I doubt the financial return on such a project, as it needs to be in that sweet spot between empire and 0.0 / away from other stations. However, this is true empire building, and I love the fact that ISS is trying.
Good luck ISS. Make sure you have quite a few large POS's in system completely outfitted with weapons platforms 
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Evil Thug
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Posted - 2005.10.02 23:00:00 -
[106]
Dances around station, evil pirates gathering flowers, everyone happy. That is boring.
We will destroy your outpost.
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Silver Night
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Posted - 2005.10.02 23:01:00 -
[107]
They can have any agenda they want. I don't really care if they take over every 0.0 system there is. As long as I profit on my investment, I'm happy.
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Silver Night
Director -Production and Science
Help the State, Make tens of millions!
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Lo3d3R
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Posted - 2005.10.02 23:13:00 -
[108]
oh joy, the possibility's  plz build 100 of those
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Tido Maliyu
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Posted - 2005.10.02 23:57:00 -
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Edited by: Tido Maliyu on 02/10/2005 23:58:02
I like this idea. Only thing is that exept if you get like a police force in that system and the systems that lead there your gonna have a problem with people actually going there. 1 factor that would make people wanna go there is asteroid belts with good ore. But since it is 0.0 and people can shoot any1 without any major loses so this will only be a possibility for big corps/alliances with protection. even then bob or some1 else would make a fleet and go on a gankingspree.
Now if some1 wanted to take over the outpost they would have to do one thing: fight of all the other alliances.now that would result in a major war zone but you would restore peace sometime. probably not after a very long time because you would be outnumbering 1/10. Ofcourse if they would unite you would come accross another problem: ISS would get kicked out some people would get mad at ISS because they ahve stuff locked down and ISS would basically have to go hide in a dark corner of empire where noone will know where they are.
If ISS manages to get some military power or people have a sence of right and wrong this thing might work. I hope it does!
Good luck ISS
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sableye
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Posted - 2005.10.03 00:04:00 -
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Originally by: Amthrianius
hmm ive been thinking about where they should put it and my opinion is somewhere in Providence, simply because its the only 0.0 region i know without any stations at all whether npc or pcs :)
wow neve rntoiced that before it seems like a bug it des'nt have conqourables at least as every non claimed region is supposed to have them.
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TURBOman
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Posted - 2005.10.03 17:06:00 -
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Mmmmm sounds like an idea with a future, lets just hope it all goes well... 
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Serenity Steele
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Posted - 2005.10.03 17:10:00 -
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Edited by: Serenity Steele on 03/10/2005 17:10:48
Phase A of Investment raised just over 8Bn ISK in 72 hours. Phase B of Investment is now open.
This is for the Neighbouring Alliance Corporations and Pilots. See ISS Marginis Outpost site for more information.
The complete business plan, timings and investment calculation are listed.
Investment Opportunity:
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Fraps
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Posted - 2005.10.03 19:21:00 -
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so as a member of the Stain Alliance, I can buy shares right? even though they still list stain as contested?
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Spaja Saist
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Posted - 2005.10.03 19:23:00 -
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Edited by: Spaja Saist on 03/10/2005 19:23:21
The sad part is the *******s in this game will go out of their way to destroy what ISS is trying to build.
Those types get off on ruining other peoples day.
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Count TaSessine
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Posted - 2005.10.03 19:37:00 -
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Originally by: Fraps
so as a member of the Stain Alliance, I can buy shares right? even though they still list stain as contested?
Yes, you can.
Chairman, ISS
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Dezzyb0y
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Posted - 2005.10.04 00:08:00 -
[116]
Its a hostile takeover i tell you! when they own 50% of eve we'll all have to give the rest to em =/
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Denrace
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Posted - 2005.10.04 00:28:00 -
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Good job!
Impressed, I am.
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Count TaSessine
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Posted - 2005.10.04 21:15:00 -
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Originally by: Silver Night
By teh same token, bring a market station, there probably isn't much of a marklet in providence, not too many people live there all the time. Coure, could be a good place too, guess they will do thier research.
Neighbouring alliance populations (potential visitors)
The figures below show number of pilots in the alliances claiming the neighbouring regions. While not all these people are expected to trade or actually reside in the regions, it is an indication of the size of the Eve-Population in the area.
Huzzah 258
CVA 241
The Confederation 313
Stain-Alliance 2452
Ascendant Frontier 2259
Firmus Ixion 1073
The Five 1078
Stain Empire 397
Veritas Immortalis 597
Red Alliance 696
Interstellar Starbase Syndicate 1000
Total population nearby 10350
Chairman, ISS
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Kyguard
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Posted - 2005.10.04 21:17:00 -
[119]
Thats a lot of people 
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Arrgs
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Posted - 2005.10.04 21:50:00 -
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It looks like a soild plan but some things that I didn't see coverd.
1. What happens in the event the security force fails and the Outpost platform is destroyed. Is this a risk the investors take or do we get a refund?
2. What happens in the unlikly event a large alliance bust out some dreads and takes over the syem and the Outpost?
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